Its not that the USA has more blue on blue incidents than anybody else, its the fact that they always let banjo playing inbred pig fucking pilots off any charge! Yeeha Bubba!
Keep in mind these were National Guard units. RAF units are darn good but the USAF units that initially began the AFGH conflict were the creme of the crop. This is unfortunate and the A10s were flying high because they had just finished a strafing run.....in which they climb to a safer altitude to avoid AAA.
@SubZero1703 How about you leave it to the people who know what they are talking about...it wasnt the pilots fault you idiot it was the fault of the JTAC. But I doubt you even know what that is! Ha.
The A-10 was designed as a low level nap of the Earth attack aircraft, so it's always interested me that the USAF rarely uses it as such. Even in this vid you can tell that the A-10 is being flown way too high. Our Tornadoes are designed for a similar roll and we always use it to its specifications. Why is the USAF hesitant to use their A-10s in low level rolls? I'd say it's down to bad training. If the A-10s in the vid had been flying at the right height they would've seen they were British.
I'm British and frankly all of the people having a go at the Americans need to grow up. It was a fucking accident! Sad to say, but shit happens. Not long after this happened our ground troops killed a couple of Danish soldiers with friendly fire. As I said, shit happens and these guys have to live with this on their backs for the rest of their lives. Recriminations lead nowhere!
@PBSmithy Trouble is the Americans keep having "accidents". Once can be seen as an accident, twice can be seen as carelessness, any more than that is just incompetence. Even as far back as WWII Americans have been infamous for having "accidents", so much so that they had a saying back then which went something like this, "When the Germans fired the British ducked, when the British fired the Germans ducked, but when the Americans fired EVERYONE ducked!"
Wikiepedia has a list of notable "friendly fire" incidents from many wars - including Iraq and Afghanistan. British troops are VERY widely represented. I repeat.....recriminatrions lead nowhere. Unless, of course, you have some ulterior motive for attacking American troops!
No freindly fire in WW2 ?? Dont be ridiculous, the phrase 'the fog of war' was coined from that era. Freindly fire is part of warfare and always has been. If you watch the full length versions of this footage you'll see that the pilots repeatedly ask if if there are any freindly forces in the area and are told multiple times that there are'nt and given the all clear to attack.
do not listen to that bbc reporter saying "an air national guardsmen with no previous experience" he doesn't no what he is talking about and the media love to stir up a hornets nest. He would not have any knowledge of classified training as the us pilots do not discuss their training or experience so he would not be in any position to even know about it. he's clearly talking out of his ass. These reporters are just looking for ways to spice up incidents that have happened
My thoughts and feelings go out to the British guy, his family and the pilots. BBC didn't show the part LIGHTNING34 or MANILA HOTEL said that there was no friendlies in the area. They were just following orders.
You guys act as if friendly fire never happens. it sucks but it does. you cant dwell on it forever, as if you want punishment for it. its just how war is. and those of us who havnt been to war dnt even understand the entirety of that.
As a former USAF member, I'd like to apologize about this as we need all the help we can get these days and friendly fire incidents need not exist with modern technology on the battlefield.
It somehow sickens me that the humans are happy killing an enemy and are unhappy with killing an friendly. Both of them they don´t know, but because some rich murderer is saying they have to go killing and this are evil people, they are happy doing it. It´s sick!
It´s time we come together! Not with beeing dumbed down zombies, smiling no matter what, like the nwo idea propouses, but we want to and understand!
who the fuck is this guy talking at the start of the video ?? where the fuck is your respect u fucking fuck up !!! i wonna see the body of your mother after shes been raped by big black bubba u cunt ! dis respectful mother fucker !
"when we see the body of the man blasted apart" well we dont show that shit on TV we arent fucked up, its called respect for the dead unlike your fucking yank jouralists
and this isnt the first time the US have opened fire on british troops. it seems they have a shoot first and worry about it later. " it sucks" fucking too right it does, and then the US goverment trys to cover it up.
as a former member of the forces ex staff and royal eng, i do feel that this does happen and the price he is paying ,he done wrong he now knows this it does happe n but my god he really did screw up the pilot and he must feel saddnees
im british and i think our goverment shud stop licking us arse man and im goin to the army careers office on thusrday to join the light dragoons cant wait
I got to 2:32. I cant fucking believe this for anything. What the fuck is the technology of the US come to. If I was a fighter pilot, or anyone, wouldnt you get close enough for confromation of the enemy?? They mistake British Forces, almost Identical to USA?? Wow, I feel sick. God Bless this man, and all of friendly fire victims... Coming from a US Marine who has been there.
There was a German saying in WWII....'When the British bomb the Germans hide, when the Germans bomb the British hide...When America bombs everyone hides'
...This is always happening. It just goes to show all the money in the world doesn't mean a thing if you lack experience, and are led by cowboys...
@rogan71 If you listen the pilots were not experienced yet... and who ever gave them confermation to fire played a part in it... Hopefully are military will learn from this..
@rogan71 If you listen the pilots were not experienced yet... and who ever gave them confermation to fire played a part in it... Hopefully our military will learn from this..
To ALL go to wikileaks(DOT)org and watch how the US treat civilians including journalists. It made me so angry I had tears in my eyes. The pilot was NOT in any danger and neither was anybody else, make your own mind up after you watch the video.
@piacono This was horrible and im not going to try to argue that fact, but it doesnt matter if the pilot was in danger. thats not why he fired. He fired because he thought they were enemies. Do taliban foot soldiers pose a threat to a-10's? no. but none the less we kill them because they are the enemy.
@mahalcat Hi mate sorry it has been ages since I wrote this comment that u replied to. If you want to see why the US have so many probs with shooting the wrong people go to wikileaks(DOT)org they show Apache chopper pilots/gunners laughing as they shoot unarmed people. They try saying that the civilians are carrying weapons when most of them are not. The people they shot were journalists for Reuters and that is the ONLY reason we have seen/heard about it.
@mahalcat What upsets me is ALL friendly nations have a Friend or Foe electronic systems. They are supposed to allow aircraft to pick out friendly forces from enemy forces on the battlefields. But apart from these systems you can hear on the radio that the UK vehicle had orange markings to denote it was a UK Army vehicle. The US airmen thought the orange markings were from missiles, well instead of firing first, fly lower and check, or would that risk THEIR life/aircraft TOO Much?
Typical Gung Ho Yanks, more concened about getting a kill, than making sure its NOT their allies.
I would have shot them down with a stinger. they did the same in WW2 they killed loads of Brits etc, thats why on the D-Day landings we had to make sure that no USA air support was there as they would have killed too many Brit soldiers.
@piacono So you are angry about them killing a Brit but you are saying you would do the same to the other side of the coin. With that attitude I'd bet you'd make the same mistake. I'm sure the pilot has enough guilt, thats punishment enough.
Yes my anger at watching my friends die would have clouded my judgement. If I had a stinger, I would have used it there and then. Friendly fire or NOT!
@elite128 punishment enough? the pilot was promoted soon after this incident, thats real punishment!.....
he should have been court marshalled. both the pilots and the forward air controller...."i think they have orange rocket launchers on the back of their tanks!!" most retarded thing ive ever heard.....
@abhiginimav I stand by my argument. Do you really think these men will be the same way? knowing they widowed a British woman and others is pretty fucking awful enough.
@elite128 someone raised a good point. they were more concerned about going to jail or getting c/marshalled than who they just killed when they said "o shit were going to jail" i dont think they were as concerned about the others before their own asses
@abhiginimav I could make the same argument when the guy said "I feel like I'm going to be sick." Nice try though. Its really indiscernible what their true thoughts were, lets just leave it at that.
And you must live in a dream world, every country in the world has prisons for exactly that reason, if someone does something bad they are punished, you dont just let them go and forget about it.
@piacono oh like UK in WW2 was so good at never killing any friendlies. Lot of US soldiers even said the same thing to u guys. The RAF kept bombing US forces many times in Mortain, France because your pilots mistook them for German columns. In Exercise tiger, Royal Navy dropped live ammunition killing 308 American Soldiers. Go to Wikipedia, type up "friendly fire" and you see shitloads of UK friendly fire incidents in WW2. Don't believe me? check out the citation numbers and get a book yourself.
You are correct and cold as it might sound to some-it will continue to happen because the biggest flaw are us humans because we're not perfect.War isnt orchestrated like a book and situations can change in minutes so nothing can ever be certain.These pilots never intended to kill allied troops and shouldnt be convicted of anything.Im British,but can see it from both sides without any prejudice.
@vegas2004 I'm only talking about WW2(because this guy i'm replying thinks called USAAF(which was called back then in WW2) is useless) and yes the pilots never intended to kill allied troops and shouldnt be convicted of anything.
Just like how war in Iraq/Afghanistan UK Soldiers were never charged for killing 2 Danes, UK tank Commander Steven Roberts, 3 Afghans, the list goes on.
No soldiers were pretty mean to do this. Friendly fire are unfortunate part of war.
@Hperman09 WW2 was how many years ago? Lets think about how many technological advancements have occurred in modern warfare since the early 1940's. Probably would take 5 minuets to tell these pilots that UK forces were distinguishing themselves as friendly with orange panels.
@helloimcow I said to that other guy that WW2 UK had never had any FFs. In this vid, the UK FAC told the pilot 3 times that there were no friendly forces in that area. It could have been orange rockets, So they had to engage before they did as far as they were concerned . The intel was bad , as there was no blue square around friendlies. After all, the pilot was come back that they were friendlies and he was shocked and cried. It's just one terrible mistake between two communications.
This is very sad but a fact of war, do you think us brits have never done blue on blue, think again. You can tell from the video that the pilots didn't want this to happen but this is war. There are many steps taken to stop this happening, but like everything in life you can never stop it all as none of us are perfect.
Typical media crap. The WHOLE incident is available, including the lead asking battle management TWICE if there were any friendlies as far north as they were and describing in detail what they saw to the ABMs. It's an awful miscommunication and has been part of war since there has been war. Suck it up and press on.
Its not the fact that it happened, its more that the US denied it happened,The mother of the lad that was killed wanted to know how and why he died,but the US refused any comment, making a statment of "We have no record"....then a UK tabloid(The Sun) managed to get proof, and the US were found out to be lying to there closest freinds and allies.They later said they had tried to cover up the attack as it would appear bad for the morale of the US citzens..
For now i forgive the american pilots. I mean atleast they wernt like Hahaha dude that was freindly haha unlucky.. But they were sad and angry sort of thing so... Anyways.. Im starting to think the us MEAN To kill British soldiers.. I meann uhh .. The US Are a good army but.. Its happening TOO Often. Oh well i suppose aslong as were allies were cool.
No..infact hey were given a medal and now train other airmen...and the fact that they have LARGE orange pannels on them...every one knows in the Field Orange is Freindly...
Not the pilots fault, bad intel. But you know, it's not like the British havn't ever had blue on blue before, every nation has i'm sure and nobody feels good afterwards. I hate the media.
What is with all the dumb pilot talk its not like they are not well trained or idiots it was a mix up in the intel they had. They identified the yellow panels as missiles instead of British soldiers, if you notice the pilots asked if friendlies were in the area and they were told that they were 800? metres away. It doesn't seem trigger happy so mush as misinformed
Oh My God, I can not believe that it actualy happened im a 13 year old from the US and id just like to say i extremely angry and just pissed that that would happen all i have to say is im so sorry i knew one of the pilots personaly and he almost killed him self litteraly im so sorry and god bless those brits and espesialy the one that died i cant eve imagine how messed up that is :(
cant really blame the pilots, they were sent out there with next to no training, they werent told that there was friendlys in the area, and im guessing no body bothered to tell them orange panels = friendly, my anger is directed at the arse holes that fail to train people properly just to save money or whatever excuse they come up with before sending em out to combat. then having the balls to try and hide their fuckups
perfect examples of american mentality here. i really really doubt you lot would be so mute of the situation if it were an american convey strafed by British jets.
still no justice for the victim of the world famous American idiocy that infects so many of you.
No, but I would remember the time you mowed down hundreds of un armed protesters in Derry. Let's not blame this on mentality. Shit happens. And everyone in this situation should feel like fucking shit.
What really fails in your comment is "mentality". I would LOVE to see you get into and fly one of those aircraft. You have to be a super human to do so. Ever heard of the song Bloody Sunday by U2? I suggest you look it up on Wikipedia.
dont get me wrong ive been to the US and i love Americans but nothing piss's me off more is idiots (especialy so called Irish- Americans)slagging off the British when they they aint got a clue what realy went on during the N/Ireland conflict ,
its true tht its just like the americans to go in guns blazing like tht without rly knowing FOR SURE wots down there, but yer i think better technology should be employed in siuations like this to make sure it never happens again. just a fukin tragic accident n i actualy do feel for the pilots to...there job is rly 'monkey see monkey do', n they should have been told before tht blues wer in that area.
the a10 is a rather unsophisticated aircraft. Blame our MoD for not fitting IFF equipment like the us have and for relying on "orange patches" (visual ID). Also, why are we wasting £ on stuff like the eurofighter when our troops arent even given basic equipment like flak jackets by the penny pinchers? This leftest labour govt of ours (the enemy within)...
What angers me about this is not only the event itself but the fact America, once again, tries to hide this stuff from allies. It's bad enough that the incompetence costs lives but if that happens, have the balls to come clean about it in future.
they shouldnt be put in jail it wasnt there fault they need to put the flag on a panal not some color if you can see the flag and understaand its ur guys then this woudnt happen they werent cowboys its called misinformation it happend to the us to when we where attacking baghdad a flight of a 10s destroyed a striker group that was on the other side of town it happens like the famous saying WAR IS HEll
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Your in a combat situation in the fog of war.... and they are suppose to go by some fucking orange panels the Brits put on their armor? Fuck that. Its a tragedy, but maybe the British Military will go beyond Redneck Deer Hunting technology (Bright Orange colors) so our boys can recognize their brothers in arms a lil better eh?
You ever seen those Big orange panels on humvees fucknut? It was an agreed method of visual identification between the international forces, Along with IR strobes (night ops) and Smoke (if you were caught in blue on blue).
The guys in the cockpit were told that there was no friendly armour in the area, and they were not aware of the significance of the orange panels and they were not trained to identify friendly armour
Thats the real tragedy, people being sent to war with no real training.
LOL, yes Orange panels is what we all used. The AirForce Pilots are just too fucking dumb and never learn to id enemy equipment Vs. friendly equipment. All those brains and lots of education and never make up for Common Fucking sense in the AirForce. I watched an AirForce Pilot kill several army soldiers in Nasyria in 03. Fucking Dumb Air Force Pilots.
This wasn't an act of malice, but rather a lack of communication and situation clarity. Unfortunately, it turned out sour for them.
I'm an officer candidate, and hope to fly the A-10 someday, and I'm sick of people saying that this was deliberate, and of people trying to start conspiracy theories, etc. Unfortunate things happen in war, people. We and the Brits are still friends.
Here's something to keep your interest, everyone. Russians buzzing our destroyers and carriers.
i agree 100% with BLUEBRUM and USAF, rather than insulting each others armies and each other we should be supporting each other and more importantly our boys in iraq and afganistan as they deserve credit for fighting for peace and we have no idea wat war is like and how easy to make mistakes it is, also the bombers were not exactly happy about this incident. i will admit as a Brit i was pissed off about this but its war and this thing happens. UK AND USA 4 EVER!
During WWII about 25% of US casualties were from friendly fire... War is horribly stressful, dangerous, and is waged by people who are tired, and scared.
War is really rotten. It is a grave responsibility to send young men off to war, and courageous for brave men to sign up. What happens is partly luck, and partly following through.
you have to understand that the pilot that you called idiot the hq gave him and order to take out the tank it was an accident am not american to be deffending them but i see that that was an accident i bet you he got more brain than you to you be judge him
The pilots were improperly briefed in my opinion. They were also messed up by the fact that ground controllers failed to inform them about the prescence of friendlies in the grid they were working. This was a tragic incident, which has had plenty of company in prior wars. The blame does not lie solely with the pilots, but rather with a overall system which failed to take important steps before an engagement was authorized.
everyone seems to think they just wana kill kill kill the truth is they didnt know....its not like they just saw some vehicals and blew them up... they checked them out, multiple times, discussed the sighting and took out what they thought were BAD guys, war is hell and good people die, they wernt proud of it
and all they want to do is kill kill kill - like they are playing some videogame. And they dont have a clue about iraq. Many of them think iraq is involved in terrorism.
a little revolutionary war payback! just kidding that is really sad. well i don't know about the british, but the iraqi's call the warthog the devils cross. if you see it coming at you can kiss your ass goodbye.
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haha, the brits suck at fighting, i bet they all forgot something, radios, to warn allied forces that they are on the ground and in the area. hhaah brits, L2fightwars
Its not that the USA has more blue on blue incidents than anybody else, its the fact that they always let banjo playing inbred pig fucking pilots off any charge! Yeeha Bubba!
SvenTviking 2 months ago
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BigJake9989 2 months ago
Keep in mind these were National Guard units. RAF units are darn good but the USAF units that initially began the AFGH conflict were the creme of the crop. This is unfortunate and the A10s were flying high because they had just finished a strafing run.....in which they climb to a safer altitude to avoid AAA.
Spadadiforza 2 months ago
And after that incident, USA jest became a british target of opportunity, (unofficially of course) friendly fire my fking ass.
SubZero1703 2 months ago
USAF at its finest... RAF walks all over there ass for skill.
SubZero1703 2 months ago
@SubZero1703 Why are you hating so much? It was an accident you fool
GamingMusicVideos1 2 months ago
@GamingMusicVideos1 You need to fkin ask?
SubZero1703 2 months ago
@SubZero1703 How about you leave it to the people who know what they are talking about...it wasnt the pilots fault you idiot it was the fault of the JTAC. But I doubt you even know what that is! Ha.
GamingMusicVideos1 2 months ago
Orange rockets? Yeah orange rockets. (this guys shitting with me.) Alright let me look. Awwwww shit. um...there were orange rockets. Fuck thats gotta suck.
heino320 7 months ago
The A-10 was designed as a low level nap of the Earth attack aircraft, so it's always interested me that the USAF rarely uses it as such. Even in this vid you can tell that the A-10 is being flown way too high. Our Tornadoes are designed for a similar roll and we always use it to its specifications. Why is the USAF hesitant to use their A-10s in low level rolls? I'd say it's down to bad training. If the A-10s in the vid had been flying at the right height they would've seen they were British.
Bubo25 7 months ago
I'm British and frankly all of the people having a go at the Americans need to grow up. It was a fucking accident! Sad to say, but shit happens. Not long after this happened our ground troops killed a couple of Danish soldiers with friendly fire. As I said, shit happens and these guys have to live with this on their backs for the rest of their lives. Recriminations lead nowhere!
PBSmithy 7 months ago
@PBSmithy Trouble is the Americans keep having "accidents". Once can be seen as an accident, twice can be seen as carelessness, any more than that is just incompetence. Even as far back as WWII Americans have been infamous for having "accidents", so much so that they had a saying back then which went something like this, "When the Germans fired the British ducked, when the British fired the Germans ducked, but when the Americans fired EVERYONE ducked!"
Bubo25 7 months ago
@Bubo25
Wikiepedia has a list of notable "friendly fire" incidents from many wars - including Iraq and Afghanistan. British troops are VERY widely represented. I repeat.....recriminatrions lead nowhere. Unless, of course, you have some ulterior motive for attacking American troops!
PBSmithy 7 months ago
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publicmario17 7 months ago
USAF = apes with guns :(
firnhick 8 months ago
No freindly fire in WW2 ?? Dont be ridiculous, the phrase 'the fog of war' was coined from that era. Freindly fire is part of warfare and always has been. If you watch the full length versions of this footage you'll see that the pilots repeatedly ask if if there are any freindly forces in the area and are told multiple times that there are'nt and given the all clear to attack.
garibaldi54 9 months ago
do not listen to that bbc reporter saying "an air national guardsmen with no previous experience" he doesn't no what he is talking about and the media love to stir up a hornets nest. He would not have any knowledge of classified training as the us pilots do not discuss their training or experience so he would not be in any position to even know about it. he's clearly talking out of his ass. These reporters are just looking for ways to spice up incidents that have happened
210482fmj 9 months ago
My thoughts and feelings go out to the British guy, his family and the pilots. BBC didn't show the part LIGHTNING34 or MANILA HOTEL said that there was no friendlies in the area. They were just following orders.
StivenCabrera3 9 months ago
This is why we should,nt be allied with America.
iloveamericans1 9 months ago
this is normal in war...people who have been there or in any war know this.....friendly fire is unfortunately is not rare....
capiten123 11 months ago
you cant look at the body because its full of radiation thanks to the a10s Depleted Uranium rounds... FTW!!!
MrRaptur3 11 months ago
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Americans are responsible for more blue on blue, than the organiser's of a smurf orgy.
LordLolinghamThe3rd 11 months ago
You guys act as if friendly fire never happens. it sucks but it does. you cant dwell on it forever, as if you want punishment for it. its just how war is. and those of us who havnt been to war dnt even understand the entirety of that.
falloutfan79 1 year ago
As a former USAF member, I'd like to apologize about this as we need all the help we can get these days and friendly fire incidents need not exist with modern technology on the battlefield.
ViperSRTnACR 1 year ago
First he laugh ....then he cries .
Vykuk123 1 year ago
"A-10 vs Brits" u sick fuck
haykier11 1 year ago
the title is sick for fuck sake take this video off now and re-name the title if you have any respect whatsoever.
louiscarr899 1 year ago
It somehow sickens me that the humans are happy killing an enemy and are unhappy with killing an friendly. Both of them they don´t know, but because some rich murderer is saying they have to go killing and this are evil people, they are happy doing it. It´s sick!
It´s time we come together! Not with beeing dumbed down zombies, smiling no matter what, like the nwo idea propouses, but we want to and understand!
whatthehell81 1 year ago
do i hear laughing at 2:20?
rigby0105 1 year ago
who the fuck is this guy talking at the start of the video ?? where the fuck is your respect u fucking fuck up !!! i wonna see the body of your mother after shes been raped by big black bubba u cunt ! dis respectful mother fucker !
magalegend 1 year ago
"when we see the body of the man blasted apart" well we dont show that shit on TV we arent fucked up, its called respect for the dead unlike your fucking yank jouralists
InfantryChans91 1 year ago
What ever happend to accuracy. They need more experienced pilots
bubu2172 1 year ago
fucking yanks got away with murder
kevinkards1 1 year ago
Cowboys on wings.
215alessio 1 year ago
and this isnt the first time the US have opened fire on british troops. it seems they have a shoot first and worry about it later. " it sucks" fucking too right it does, and then the US goverment trys to cover it up.
FL4ME5 1 year ago
as a former member of the forces ex staff and royal eng, i do feel that this does happen and the price he is paying ,he done wrong he now knows this it does happe n but my god he really did screw up the pilot and he must feel saddnees
2walsall 1 year ago
keep in mind people
that PILOT is a victim to!
klote2314 1 year ago
Wow this sucks, I cant believe they let him fire without making sure they werent friendlys!! this pisses me off... That pilot was pissed!
AzonaCATS10 1 year ago
im british and i think our goverment shud stop licking us arse man and im goin to the army careers office on thusrday to join the light dragoons cant wait
ratking89 1 year ago
I got to 2:32. I cant fucking believe this for anything. What the fuck is the technology of the US come to. If I was a fighter pilot, or anyone, wouldnt you get close enough for confromation of the enemy?? They mistake British Forces, almost Identical to USA?? Wow, I feel sick. God Bless this man, and all of friendly fire victims... Coming from a US Marine who has been there.
OneBigmutha1109 1 year ago
There was a German saying in WWII....'When the British bomb the Germans hide, when the Germans bomb the British hide...When America bombs everyone hides'
...This is always happening. It just goes to show all the money in the world doesn't mean a thing if you lack experience, and are led by cowboys...
rogan71 1 year ago
@rogan71 If you listen the pilots were not experienced yet... and who ever gave them confermation to fire played a part in it... Hopefully are military will learn from this..
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@rogan71 If you listen the pilots were not experienced yet... and who ever gave them confermation to fire played a part in it... Hopefully our military will learn from this..
AzonaCATS10 1 year ago
To ALL go to wikileaks(DOT)org and watch how the US treat civilians including journalists. It made me so angry I had tears in my eyes. The pilot was NOT in any danger and neither was anybody else, make your own mind up after you watch the video.
piacono 1 year ago
@piacono This was horrible and im not going to try to argue that fact, but it doesnt matter if the pilot was in danger. thats not why he fired. He fired because he thought they were enemies. Do taliban foot soldiers pose a threat to a-10's? no. but none the less we kill them because they are the enemy.
falloutfan79 1 year ago
@mahalcat Hi mate sorry it has been ages since I wrote this comment that u replied to. If you want to see why the US have so many probs with shooting the wrong people go to wikileaks(DOT)org they show Apache chopper pilots/gunners laughing as they shoot unarmed people. They try saying that the civilians are carrying weapons when most of them are not. The people they shot were journalists for Reuters and that is the ONLY reason we have seen/heard about it.
piacono 1 year ago
@mahalcat What upsets me is ALL friendly nations have a Friend or Foe electronic systems. They are supposed to allow aircraft to pick out friendly forces from enemy forces on the battlefields. But apart from these systems you can hear on the radio that the UK vehicle had orange markings to denote it was a UK Army vehicle. The US airmen thought the orange markings were from missiles, well instead of firing first, fly lower and check, or would that risk THEIR life/aircraft TOO Much?
piacono 1 year ago
"we are in jail, dude"... you should be in fucking school, morons, not fighting in country you prooly cant even show on map.
jesus, ppl are realy stupid (to go to war)
utar88utar 1 year ago
they didn't misinterpret anything. the people at the base messed up, big time. you can hear them ask about the orange markings over and over.
zzbin 1 year ago
Typical Gung Ho Yanks, more concened about getting a kill, than making sure its NOT their allies.
I would have shot them down with a stinger. they did the same in WW2 they killed loads of Brits etc, thats why on the D-Day landings we had to make sure that no USA air support was there as they would have killed too many Brit soldiers.
piacono 2 years ago
@piacono So you are angry about them killing a Brit but you are saying you would do the same to the other side of the coin. With that attitude I'd bet you'd make the same mistake. I'm sure the pilot has enough guilt, thats punishment enough.
elite128 1 year ago
Yes my anger at watching my friends die would have clouded my judgement. If I had a stinger, I would have used it there and then. Friendly fire or NOT!
piacono 1 year ago
@elite128 punishment enough? the pilot was promoted soon after this incident, thats real punishment!.....
he should have been court marshalled. both the pilots and the forward air controller...."i think they have orange rocket launchers on the back of their tanks!!" most retarded thing ive ever heard.....
abhiginimav 1 year ago
@abhiginimav I stand by my argument. Do you really think these men will be the same way? knowing they widowed a British woman and others is pretty fucking awful enough.
elite128 1 year ago
@elite128 someone raised a good point. they were more concerned about going to jail or getting c/marshalled than who they just killed when they said "o shit were going to jail" i dont think they were as concerned about the others before their own asses
abhiginimav 1 year ago
@abhiginimav I could make the same argument when the guy said "I feel like I'm going to be sick." Nice try though. Its really indiscernible what their true thoughts were, lets just leave it at that.
elite128 1 year ago
@elite128
LOL yeah you have you family killed and see if you have the same opinion. They should of been punished end of story.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 It would be kind of hard because I'm the only one of my family members who is in the military....but I know my family would be forgiving.
Nothing is worse than a bitter unremorseful heart. Maybe you should take
that to heart.
elite128 1 year ago
@elite128
The point is the same whether they are or arent.
And you must live in a dream world, every country in the world has prisons for exactly that reason, if someone does something bad they are punished, you dont just let them go and forget about it.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 friendly fire is not punnished in here
tho you will be suspended and send to a psychology instance
to make sure you wont kill your self ore do any more stuff that can accidently hurt others
sending accidental kills to jail that follow procedures is kinda stupid to me
i would blame the procedure and demand it be changed
klote2314 1 year ago
@klote2314
Someone should be punished.
Someone fired or gave the order to fire without verifying there target. By any defintion that is incompetence and should be punished.
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Hperman09 1 year ago
@piacono oh like UK in WW2 was so good at never killing any friendlies. Lot of US soldiers even said the same thing to u guys. The RAF kept bombing US forces many times in Mortain, France because your pilots mistook them for German columns. In Exercise tiger, Royal Navy dropped live ammunition killing 308 American Soldiers. Go to Wikipedia, type up "friendly fire" and you see shitloads of UK friendly fire incidents in WW2. Don't believe me? check out the citation numbers and get a book yourself.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09
You are correct and cold as it might sound to some-it will continue to happen because the biggest flaw are us humans because we're not perfect.War isnt orchestrated like a book and situations can change in minutes so nothing can ever be certain.These pilots never intended to kill allied troops and shouldnt be convicted of anything.Im British,but can see it from both sides without any prejudice.
vegas2004 1 year ago
@vegas2004 I'm only talking about WW2(because this guy i'm replying thinks called USAAF(which was called back then in WW2) is useless) and yes the pilots never intended to kill allied troops and shouldnt be convicted of anything.
Just like how war in Iraq/Afghanistan UK Soldiers were never charged for killing 2 Danes, UK tank Commander Steven Roberts, 3 Afghans, the list goes on.
No soldiers were pretty mean to do this. Friendly fire are unfortunate part of war.
i agree with u.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 WW2 was how many years ago? Lets think about how many technological advancements have occurred in modern warfare since the early 1940's. Probably would take 5 minuets to tell these pilots that UK forces were distinguishing themselves as friendly with orange panels.
helloimcow 1 year ago
@helloimcow I said to that other guy that WW2 UK had never had any FFs. In this vid, the UK FAC told the pilot 3 times that there were no friendly forces in that area. It could have been orange rockets, So they had to engage before they did as far as they were concerned . The intel was bad , as there was no blue square around friendlies. After all, the pilot was come back that they were friendlies and he was shocked and cried. It's just one terrible mistake between two communications.
Hperman09 1 year ago
this report of friendly fire is an attempt to distract the viewer (TV) from the fact
WE DONT NEED TO BE THERE
bodunchar 2 years ago
This is very sad but a fact of war, do you think us brits have never done blue on blue, think again. You can tell from the video that the pilots didn't want this to happen but this is war. There are many steps taken to stop this happening, but like everything in life you can never stop it all as none of us are perfect.
1975buddha 2 years ago
Believe what you want and deal with it in your own way. I'm sure, if you tried really hard, that you could hate the US too.
FlightLevelHeaded 2 years ago
Typical media crap. The WHOLE incident is available, including the lead asking battle management TWICE if there were any friendlies as far north as they were and describing in detail what they saw to the ABMs. It's an awful miscommunication and has been part of war since there has been war. Suck it up and press on.
FlightLevelHeaded 2 years ago
Its not the fact that it happened, its more that the US denied it happened,The mother of the lad that was killed wanted to know how and why he died,but the US refused any comment, making a statment of "We have no record"....then a UK tabloid(The Sun) managed to get proof, and the US were found out to be lying to there closest freinds and allies.They later said they had tried to cover up the attack as it would appear bad for the morale of the US citzens..
VillaMan08 2 years ago
For now i forgive the american pilots. I mean atleast they wernt like Hahaha dude that was freindly haha unlucky.. But they were sad and angry sort of thing so... Anyways.. Im starting to think the us MEAN To kill British soldiers.. I meann uhh .. The US Are a good army but.. Its happening TOO Often. Oh well i suppose aslong as were allies were cool.
chickendippers1997 2 years ago
more british soldiers killed by americans than iraqis,WTF
rangers11000 2 years ago
Pilots devastated? Bullshit.
arrrival 2 years ago
comm say there no friendly's, i seen the full video why this tv news didn't show that
Helghast4000 2 years ago
No..infact hey were given a medal and now train other airmen...and the fact that they have LARGE orange pannels on them...every one knows in the Field Orange is Freindly...
08JamMan 2 years ago
I like how the spin it to sound like America is fucking dumb.
It was an accident, very horrible, but it's war, friendly fire has been around forever.
everettvonscott 2 years ago
Shit happens in war, a tragic mistake unfortunately.
hoplite1766 2 years ago
Not the pilots fault, bad intel. But you know, it's not like the British havn't ever had blue on blue before, every nation has i'm sure and nobody feels good afterwards. I hate the media.
GreaseGun 2 years ago
Good ole fashioned BBC spin!
See, even the Brits are incapable of being objective.
Meowmiks 2 years ago
Are you trying to suggest that ALL Brits are incapable of being objective or did I misinterpret you?
phlupple 2 years ago
I guess I should have said "British Media."
... or ANY media for that matter.
Meowmiks 2 years ago
What is with all the dumb pilot talk its not like they are not well trained or idiots it was a mix up in the intel they had. They identified the yellow panels as missiles instead of British soldiers, if you notice the pilots asked if friendlies were in the area and they were told that they were 800? metres away. It doesn't seem trigger happy so mush as misinformed
TheOriginalTL 2 years ago
Sad.
Petalumian 2 years ago
Very.
SGzSynyster 2 years ago
Oh My God, I can not believe that it actualy happened im a 13 year old from the US and id just like to say i extremely angry and just pissed that that would happen all i have to say is im so sorry i knew one of the pilots personaly and he almost killed him self litteraly im so sorry and god bless those brits and espesialy the one that died i cant eve imagine how messed up that is :(
Wawaweewaj 2 years ago 21
@Wawaweewaj well, this is what you get when sending semi-educated kids into combat. children with big guns. this is image of US army.
dont get fooled by jewish propaganda. war is bad, you know.
utar88utar 1 year ago
i think the title of this video is wrong i mean what the fuck
bubbles867 2 years ago 24
cant really blame the pilots, they were sent out there with next to no training, they werent told that there was friendlys in the area, and im guessing no body bothered to tell them orange panels = friendly, my anger is directed at the arse holes that fail to train people properly just to save money or whatever excuse they come up with before sending em out to combat. then having the balls to try and hide their fuckups
R.I.P. Hull
bigyin109 2 years ago 4
Kinda sad us shooting our own allies. But war is Hell and mistakes do happen.
sjk187 2 years ago
the sound of the a-10's gattling gun going off sends shivers down my back.
lemob182 2 years ago 4
perfect examples of american mentality here. i really really doubt you lot would be so mute of the situation if it were an american convey strafed by British jets.
still no justice for the victim of the world famous American idiocy that infects so many of you.
why the hell did we enter this fucking war?
conradmilligan 2 years ago
No, but I would remember the time you mowed down hundreds of un armed protesters in Derry. Let's not blame this on mentality. Shit happens. And everyone in this situation should feel like fucking shit.
Nassault630 2 years ago
ive seen the sit happens argument so many times. well with american blue on blue incidents, shit seems to happen alot.
and im not aware of any incident of the british mowing down hundereds of protesters in londonderry.
you have to admit at least that the americans do this kind of thing alot compared to other forces involved.
conradmilligan 2 years ago
What really fails in your comment is "mentality". I would LOVE to see you get into and fly one of those aircraft. You have to be a super human to do so. Ever heard of the song Bloody Sunday by U2? I suggest you look it up on Wikipedia.
Nassault630 2 years ago
your one of the troubles worst critics probably a 3rd generation plastic paddy not even old enough to know what realy went on
skinnymason 2 years ago
Can you please re-phrase that? That made NO fucking sense.
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skinnymason 2 years ago
dont get me wrong ive been to the US and i love Americans but nothing piss's me off more is idiots (especialy so called Irish- Americans)slagging off the British when they they aint got a clue what realy went on during the N/Ireland conflict ,
skinnymason 2 years ago
Don't tell me I don't have a clue. I lived in Cobhem for several years.
Nassault630 2 years ago
The only Cobhem ive heard of is Surrey,England lol
skinnymason 2 years ago
Yes, I lived in Cobham, Surry for several years.
Nassault630 2 years ago
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fuck the british.
SnoboarderTPOH 2 years ago
What a heartless comment you fucking douche.
Nassault630 2 years ago
Their first combat experience is killing a friendly soldier, who happened to be only 25 years old.
Gotta feel like fucking shit right there...
inuyashaspet 3 years ago 2
its true tht its just like the americans to go in guns blazing like tht without rly knowing FOR SURE wots down there, but yer i think better technology should be employed in siuations like this to make sure it never happens again. just a fukin tragic accident n i actualy do feel for the pilots to...there job is rly 'monkey see monkey do', n they should have been told before tht blues wer in that area.
ratodoesgato 3 years ago 3
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wow... brits type the broken jibberish they speak.. thats funny.
SnoboarderTPOH 2 years ago
nah how could we brits be as funy as you? i mean that comment was pure class. please reply back with some insult for me, so i can laff sum more.
ratodoesgato 2 years ago
the jibberish we speak? haha. We speak English, same as you. retard
DanSandwich 2 years ago
that sucks =/
NoTagNamesLeft 3 years ago 3
the a10 is a rather unsophisticated aircraft. Blame our MoD for not fitting IFF equipment like the us have and for relying on "orange patches" (visual ID). Also, why are we wasting £ on stuff like the eurofighter when our troops arent even given basic equipment like flak jackets by the penny pinchers? This leftest labour govt of ours (the enemy within)...
ooeyb 3 years ago
What angers me about this is not only the event itself but the fact America, once again, tries to hide this stuff from allies. It's bad enough that the incompetence costs lives but if that happens, have the balls to come clean about it in future.
JanineRobin 3 years ago
they shouldnt be put in jail it wasnt there fault they need to put the flag on a panal not some color if you can see the flag and understaand its ur guys then this woudnt happen they werent cowboys its called misinformation it happend to the us to when we where attacking baghdad a flight of a 10s destroyed a striker group that was on the other side of town it happens like the famous saying WAR IS HEll
dogcompany101st 3 years ago 5
Orange panels were mentioned a number of times before they shot...
Seemed like they were always in doubt. So they shouldn't have shot.
mrmuscle1000 3 years ago 3
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Your in a combat situation in the fog of war.... and they are suppose to go by some fucking orange panels the Brits put on their armor? Fuck that. Its a tragedy, but maybe the British Military will go beyond Redneck Deer Hunting technology (Bright Orange colors) so our boys can recognize their brothers in arms a lil better eh?
SnoboarderTPOH 3 years ago
Or how about all you fuckin' americans wear glasses?
Cooter1Brown 3 years ago 4
You ever seen those Big orange panels on humvees fucknut? It was an agreed method of visual identification between the international forces, Along with IR strobes (night ops) and Smoke (if you were caught in blue on blue).
The guys in the cockpit were told that there was no friendly armour in the area, and they were not aware of the significance of the orange panels and they were not trained to identify friendly armour
Thats the real tragedy, people being sent to war with no real training.
reaper2110 2 years ago 3
"were in jail dude" "Argghhh"
mattrstudios 3 years ago
LOL, yes Orange panels is what we all used. The AirForce Pilots are just too fucking dumb and never learn to id enemy equipment Vs. friendly equipment. All those brains and lots of education and never make up for Common Fucking sense in the AirForce. I watched an AirForce Pilot kill several army soldiers in Nasyria in 03. Fucking Dumb Air Force Pilots.
FUACLU 3 years ago
Agreed, Bluebrum,
This wasn't an act of malice, but rather a lack of communication and situation clarity. Unfortunately, it turned out sour for them.
I'm an officer candidate, and hope to fly the A-10 someday, and I'm sick of people saying that this was deliberate, and of people trying to start conspiracy theories, etc. Unfortunate things happen in war, people. We and the Brits are still friends.
Here's something to keep your interest, everyone. Russians buzzing our destroyers and carriers.
USAF1947 4 years ago
i agree 100% with BLUEBRUM and USAF, rather than insulting each others armies and each other we should be supporting each other and more importantly our boys in iraq and afganistan as they deserve credit for fighting for peace and we have no idea wat war is like and how easy to make mistakes it is, also the bombers were not exactly happy about this incident. i will admit as a Brit i was pissed off about this but its war and this thing happens. UK AND USA 4 EVER!
mauler19 3 years ago 2
During WWII about 25% of US casualties were from friendly fire... War is horribly stressful, dangerous, and is waged by people who are tired, and scared.
War is really rotten. It is a grave responsibility to send young men off to war, and courageous for brave men to sign up. What happens is partly luck, and partly following through.
DonMeaker 4 years ago
buster thet what you write is wrong, US'a force atack the Britih force !!
skiLLer2008pl 4 years ago
Yet you still covered it up..
eldrad9999 4 years ago
i thik this is one more intent of uk to make the US look bad as always they have done it
cayey00736 4 years ago
They are...US always FF
eldrad9999 4 years ago
you have to understand that the pilot that you called idiot the hq gave him and order to take out the tank it was an accident am not american to be deffending them but i see that that was an accident i bet you he got more brain than you to you be judge him
cayey00736 4 years ago
The pilots were improperly briefed in my opinion. They were also messed up by the fact that ground controllers failed to inform them about the prescence of friendlies in the grid they were working. This was a tragic incident, which has had plenty of company in prior wars. The blame does not lie solely with the pilots, but rather with a overall system which failed to take important steps before an engagement was authorized.
CLK15 4 years ago
everyone seems to think they just wana kill kill kill the truth is they didnt know....its not like they just saw some vehicals and blew them up... they checked them out, multiple times, discussed the sighting and took out what they thought were BAD guys, war is hell and good people die, they wernt proud of it
decipherlogic 4 years ago
FAIL
thrax777 4 years ago
they didnt mean to do it, its a war accidents happen
daveandamber 4 years ago
yea i gotta agree. the people running the staging are the untrined 19 and 20 year olds.
dekonfrost7 4 years ago 2
and all they want to do is kill kill kill - like they are playing some videogame. And they dont have a clue about iraq. Many of them think iraq is involved in terrorism.
bnzbrl 4 years ago
good idea..to do that a lot of people would have to die.voting is only an illusion now believe me.
dekonfrost7 4 years ago
that might as well be on x box live
daf867 4 years ago
its what weve come to expect from the yanks i suppose, after all, they did kill 3 times as many british forces as the iraqis did during the war...
madjonesey 4 years ago
it was intel failure!!! the pilot ask for a confirmation, and he even went in low and slow to check, "orange panel down there"
and "little if any training"?? thats bullshit, dont blame the pilots.
bigasian19 4 years ago
a little revolutionary war payback! just kidding that is really sad. well i don't know about the british, but the iraqi's call the warthog the devils cross. if you see it coming at you can kiss your ass goodbye.
tymo1983 4 years ago
SAS...ye yank pussies...Game over!!!...SAS
bigbluebam 4 years ago
Its a fucking tragedy. Why does everyone have to act like assholes about it. Americans and British.
FearlessAmerican 4 years ago 3
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haha, the brits suck at fighting, i bet they all forgot something, radios, to warn allied forces that they are on the ground and in the area. hhaah brits, L2fightwars
btw A-10s ftw, 4200 rpm of fun (crimsontides)
ironhockey 4 years ago
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lol there killing more brits than terroist.
myths4 4 years ago
Yeah, I don't think he slept very well that day(s).
But why did the Britsh government insist that the tape didn't exist? Seems like a coverup to me..
rinco76 4 years ago 4
because if we saw it then we'd kill all americans >=]
Dragon22873 4 years ago
You still have a 200+ year old grudge with the USA. I think we kick the UK's ass there to ; )
cjhyde78 4 years ago
usa kickin the uk's ass? dream on
Dragon22873 4 years ago 2
We should get to see what war is really all about, and what our weapons do to people.
ytblows 4 years ago
Hey - US forces can kill their FRIENDS!!
You think this is SMART??
brianduff2000 4 years ago
why would u wont to see his body?
HailToTheSkunk 4 years ago
4200 rpm of fun.
CrimsonTides 5 years ago