Not sure about the arguments about the speed of the download. At the beginning of a night you might play this a +2. Later on in the evening we might be talking +6, either way people would still dance coz it’s a quality track. Sometimes folks, the speed of the music is pitched up due to the ‘state’ of people in the club!!!
RAW... Heard this first on Don FM... Or was it Kool FM? I forget now... But still... 1993 and those airwaves were jammed with some prototyped, broken beat vibes.
I listen to mostly jungle/amen stuff these days, and I think it just loses its momentum completely when played slow... I mean take some of the old Dread stuff like Terrorist and Yes Yes (Babylon or whatever), it just doesn't sound as good at its original speed, needs some speed on it, lol.
DUDE! C'mon!! Please have the respect to play this at the right speed. Playing jungle at +8 only kills half of its vibe. Speeding this up does not improve it, or make it more intense, we just lose. This track is a cruising joint, not more shitty jump up D&B.
@lustreboy Thanks, I can understand that, but I also remember when jungle records started to come in, many of them were running a bit slower than the average breakbeat hardcore tracks of the day, no doubt because the reggae basslines and hip hop samples were running at half-speed to the breaks. I think that's where a lot of the vibe lives too, so when you speed it up that part gets lost and everyone starts pogo jumping, instead of dancing, which is never a cool thing!
@Jolar70 hes only botherd because he wants to import to mp3 at a shitty quality go .no dj plays at 0 pitch the only time you ever heard it 0 pitch is on yer sad lonesome this is running at 168 bpm its hardly plus 8
@DJDreadnought I just re-found this. What's wrong with you? I just said it was too fast. I don't need an MP3, I bought it on a round thing when it came out. It's playing WAY faster than it was recorded. DJ's can't keep all at 0 but FB isn't a mix, and folks might be hearing this for the 1st time here, so I think it should sound as the artist intended, even if it's dated. Personally, I jumped ship in '97 when breaks turned into 2 step loops all night long, so I care about preserving jungle only.
@Jolar70 if you bought it on a round thing you have already preserved it and this isnt fb.and when i meet an artist thats actually 100% happy with there press after some mastery monkeys had his hands on it at the pressing plant id agree but theres not many records that sound as that artist intended .and this is a digital rip of a analogue tune if you want to hear as intended or as close as put yer round thing on deck and put through a valve amp
Not sure about the arguments about the speed of the download. At the beginning of a night you might play this a +2. Later on in the evening we might be talking +6, either way people would still dance coz it’s a quality track. Sometimes folks, the speed of the music is pitched up due to the ‘state’ of people in the club!!!
cyriledher 2 months ago
This is the correct speed as I recall.
TheDiddlysquat21 2 months ago
This is the speed it was played at! Ray Keith, The Edge Coventry, 1993. What a night!
afroelfish 2 months ago in playlist 1993 Raves Gone Dark
tune !!!!!! just need gq over the top
trustthistime 7 months ago
RAW... Heard this first on Don FM... Or was it Kool FM? I forget now... But still... 1993 and those airwaves were jammed with some prototyped, broken beat vibes.
lysergicwindow 8 months ago
Too fast,maybe,but try mixing it with Screwface original Borderline Kemet 3rd Party and you'll have to have it at +6/8 and they both come out '94!
nastyc79 8 months ago
too fast, belter of tune though
MrTeejaysingh 9 months ago
Maybe the perception of speed correlates with whatever you put in your system knasayeen? :)
chesterthederelict 1 year ago
I listen to mostly jungle/amen stuff these days, and I think it just loses its momentum completely when played slow... I mean take some of the old Dread stuff like Terrorist and Yes Yes (Babylon or whatever), it just doesn't sound as good at its original speed, needs some speed on it, lol.
madtom1337 1 year ago
► Play - The Moments ▌▌ Pause - The Memories ■ Stop - The Pain ◄Rewind - The Good Times ♥
sickboyswhc 1 year ago
Cheers for gre- t tune
biggiezt 1 year ago
I just played this on my 12's and it's at normal speed jolar your a tard.
biggiezt 1 year ago
the sound
silverfoxzx9 1 year ago
This track was made fast.
MrAngular 1 year ago
nice!
marselus88 1 year ago
This mix misses out the "The Dark Side" sample??
ianruth1 2 years ago
Demolition job every time
Con1974 2 years ago
fukin luv this tune!
SKYTZOO 2 years ago
DUDE! C'mon!! Please have the respect to play this at the right speed. Playing jungle at +8 only kills half of its vibe. Speeding this up does not improve it, or make it more intense, we just lose. This track is a cruising joint, not more shitty jump up D&B.
Jolar70 2 years ago 7
@Jolar70 this track was produced at a fast pitch,put it on a 1200 and youl see for yourself
gibtheyid 1 year ago
@Jolar70
anyone ever told you that you are a fucking tosser.....shut the fuck up u have no clue about beat speed twat.
djnv11 1 year ago
@Jolar70 interesting... I met a few producers back in the day and I remember Andy C telling me the tracks were made with them being sped up in mind.
That's how they were always played out anyways ;)
lustreboy 1 year ago 5
@lustreboy Thanks, I can understand that, but I also remember when jungle records started to come in, many of them were running a bit slower than the average breakbeat hardcore tracks of the day, no doubt because the reggae basslines and hip hop samples were running at half-speed to the breaks. I think that's where a lot of the vibe lives too, so when you speed it up that part gets lost and everyone starts pogo jumping, instead of dancing, which is never a cool thing!
Jolar70 8 months ago
@Jolar70 well I guess it depends on which raves you went to maybe? the ones i went too liked to play it fast (perhaps not +8 though)
perhaps there was a lot of good speed around at the time :)
lustreboy 6 months ago
@lustreboy
Thank you, This is true.
funcrime1 1 month ago
@Jolar70 hes only botherd because he wants to import to mp3 at a shitty quality go .no dj plays at 0 pitch the only time you ever heard it 0 pitch is on yer sad lonesome this is running at 168 bpm its hardly plus 8
DJDreadnought 9 months ago
@DJDreadnought I just re-found this. What's wrong with you? I just said it was too fast. I don't need an MP3, I bought it on a round thing when it came out. It's playing WAY faster than it was recorded. DJ's can't keep all at 0 but FB isn't a mix, and folks might be hearing this for the 1st time here, so I think it should sound as the artist intended, even if it's dated. Personally, I jumped ship in '97 when breaks turned into 2 step loops all night long, so I care about preserving jungle only.
Jolar70 8 months ago
@Jolar70 if you bought it on a round thing you have already preserved it and this isnt fb.and when i meet an artist thats actually 100% happy with there press after some mastery monkeys had his hands on it at the pressing plant id agree but theres not many records that sound as that artist intended .and this is a digital rip of a analogue tune if you want to hear as intended or as close as put yer round thing on deck and put through a valve amp
DJDreadnought 8 months ago
Top upload! This is my favorite version of The Dark Stranger
OpenCanOfWorms 2 years ago