Pak is facing the heat like never before in this decade...name 2000-2012 the darkest decade of Pak, sports-politics-killings, terrors! Pak is facing the wrath of its own desires....think abt progress, a little bit...spending everythin for defense, wud defense get u money back? its safety investment...fearing India action at tight Pak condition...n then wen it reaches peak, military act against India...either u r at war inside ur country or with India......PEACE!
@imemadhu: The last thing Pakistan needs is advice from Indians.. How about spending less on occupying J&K militarily with 700,000 troops & withdrawing them n letting Kashmiris decide what they want.. But ofcourse, the suffering of the Kashmiris doesn't ring a bell so far away as Chennai I suppose...
5) Sharif is known for making haughty remarks for one-upmanship, nothing new.
6) India presented evidence on Jan.6th; Pak did not reject anything.
7) U.S shared Indian-provided evidence with Pakistan; yet emphasized that NO Pak state institution was involved. Mumbai attacks were conducted by non-state actors for which states are NOT responsible under Int'l Law.
I want to summarize the sequence of events for Mumbai attacks.
1) Pak media said it was Indian media propaganda to put the blame on Pakistan. There is no evidence linking the attack to Pakistan.
2) UN banned 3 Pak's so called charity Organizations. Pak's friend China did't utter a word in UN. They have supported Pak atleast twice by vetoing against India.
3) Pak's government strongly protested the allegations. They said Kasab was not listed in their national DB.
1) Pak media was correct abt Indian media propaganda, Pakistan/ISI was being blamed within 3hrs of Mumbai attacks even when Indian govt officials were telling Indian media, 'its too early to say who did this'.
2) The banning of charities was under scrutiny long before Mumbai attacks; India's new love affair with the U.S pressurized the UNSC to ban those organizations; no big deal, Pak still has not officially banned J-u-D.
3) Pak govt didnt lie, Kasab still isnt listed in national database.
Your statements are mere words without any evidence. Pak always knew there was Pakistani connection in the Mumbai attacks even before India presented the evidence but didn't want to admit it fearing the consequences.
Evidences:
1 Geo TV (Pak) showed on TV Kasab's father admitting that Kasab wa his son.
2 Nawaz Sharif also acknowledged it but later backed off under pressure.
Pakistani Govt when admitted Kasab's nationality didn't deny that Nawaz's and Geo TV information was wrong.
U're the one making ridiculous claims of 'Pak' knew there was a Pakistani connection - what evidence do u have to back u that tall claim?
1. GeoTV is still media outlet; media reporting doesnt dictate or set govt policy in Pakistan, maybe in India it does where media accuses Pakistan first, then Indian govt
2. Nawaz Sharif is a leader of a party sittin in opposition, u'd be naive to think he wasn't trying to score political points
Pak govt confirmed when India gave evidence, simple as that
1. GEO TV claims turned out to be true in the end.
2. Nawaz Sharif Pak's former PM (not any ordinary minister) would be naive to put his entire career at risk suggesting Kasab may be a Pakistani and supporting the claims of Pakistan's arch enemy. If he really did that to score cheap points, may be Pak needs to get united first.
If you still want to suggest that it was am Indian media propaganda against to blame Pakistan in Mumbai attacks, please suit yourself.
1. GEO TVs credibility is NOT in question. They always offer alternate perspectives to any news unlike Indian media
2. Scoring political points is common, not jst in Pakistan but also in India. That doesnt say anything abt a country being united or not; how abt we take Mr Antulay's comments regarding Hemant Karkare's death as a sign of disunity in India?
3. As stated before, further analysis of evidence that India gave Pakistan is on-going. India media DID launch propaganda campaign
You are saying that Pak Media and Zaid Hamid counted on the evidence deducible from Indian media reporting. Was it Indian media that said the attacker was a Hindu? If so, how could this be an Indian media propaganda against Pakistan.
What you said that doesn't make any sense. You are seriously out of your mind and hallucinating.
No, there were many aspects of evidence completely ignored by Indian media as they got busy in sensationalizing Mumbai attack reports to increase their ratings by building a case against Pakistan. Pak media used the same evidence & some that Indian media ignored to offer an alternate perspective which Indian media didnt even want bother considering.
U must be hallucinating for not understanding plain English & how a single piece of evidence can have two stories. Savor an Idiots Guide to Law
This video is titled "Indian Media propaganda". Pakistan media claimed that it was an Indian media propaganda when they claimed that the captured terrorist was a Pakistani.
Daily Times, Pakistan 7th Jan, 2009 has the following quotes below"
"Islamabad has acknowledged that the lone surviving Mumbai gunman Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani".
Guess the Pakistan president, their media and a lot of their countrymen were lying and getting defensive. What do they have to say NOW?
Yes, what Pakistani media & politicians offered at the time was counter-perspective since India had NOT provided evidence. Keep in mind blatant Indian media propaganda after Samjhota Express & Malegaon blasts which were also blamed on Pakistan/ISI which later turned out to be carried out by Indians/Hindus.
India took 1.5 mnths to hand over evidence and NewYork Times report from yesterday clearly states that the 'dossier' India has handed to Pakistan & the U.S is 'designed' to frame Pakistan.
blah blah blah..!! You guys (Pakis) are really full of it!!
I can't believe you (Pakis) people are still trying to point fingers at others. For the sake of your own Allah, please get real NOW and accept the fact that Pakistani people were involved in terrorist attacks in Mumbai.
India took its time as it probably wanted to see what Pakistan had to say so they can fully exposed. Not to say when one is presenting a SOLID evidence to the world, it takes time to get all things together.
1) Until India handed over irrefutable evidence, no one can be faulted for rejecting claims that Kasab was a Pakistani national. The real crime would've been if after verifying the Indian evidence, Pakistan would've still denied his nationality.
2) Zaid Hamid, Pakistani media or anyone else is at liberty to make what conclusions they can from evidence available to them. It is no one's fault if Indian authorities chose to keep their evidence to themselves.
1) Pakistan had stated that India's evidence was not credible enough when India first presented it. Incidentally, it was only after Pakistani Nation Security Advisor Durrani's 3 day visit to USA that things took a U turn. News articles suggested that Condoleeeza Rice was very blunt with Durrani and asked Pakistan to get their ducts in a row and admit to the facts.
2) Pak Media and Zaid Hamid in particular had no evidence. If he had it, he would have presented it.
1) Ahem! India did NOT present ANY evidence to Pak prior to the current 'dossier'; the only so-called evidence available before was through sensationalized Indian media reporting. To solve Kashmir, India whines abt 'bilateral' solutions to Pakistan when U.N or U.S. mediation is considered but to solve Mumbai attacks, India first took evidence to FBI, MI5, etc instead of sharing it directly with Pakistan.
2) Pak Media & Zaid Hamid counted on evidence that was deducible frm Indian media reporting
India presented its evidence to US,UK as they knew Pakistan will deny any connection to Mumbai attacks and they were right. Foreign citizens were killed so it is India's moral obligation (something Pak would never understand) to present the evidence to them. It was also in India's interest to show to the world that there are elements in Pak that export terrorism to India. I know Pakistan is suffering too but like any other country they need to make sure their shit stays in their own country.
Unfortunately 'International Law' doesnt work according to how Indians want. Jst like 2001, after Indian parliament was attacked, this time will be no different. India will whine & whine no one will be handed over to India. Talk of 'moral obligation' coming from an Indian is disingenuous; if India were aware of its 'moral' obligations, Kashmiris would've had had a plebscite by now as per Nehru's commitments. Jst like India doesnt trust Pak to give it evidence, so shall Kashmir be resolved by UN
Pakistani courts were under the control of military dictator Pervez Musharraf and Pakistan was labeled as the most dangerous nation in the world. So I feel like throwing up when someone from Pakistan talks about "International Law". The issue is NOT Kashmir here but Pakistani exported terrorism.
India claimed Kasab was a Pakistani. Pak rejected it out rightly. US, UK supported India's claimed and then Pakistan was totally exposed when they had to come clear and accept the truth.
Yeh also do us all a favor, learn the difference b/w International Law & Domestic Law. Pakistani courts 'were' under a dictator & even then that affected DOMESTIC law only. Int'l Law remains constant as U.N, ICJ & World Community at large hold sway over it, not any country's local courts. *yawn* Same old retarded comments frm Indians
India claimed Kasab as Pakistani with what 'hidden' evidence they had & shared limitedly with U.S & U.K. Pak was not given the evidence so Pak was free to deny.
India has made a clown out of itself time & again so its natural for Pakistan to not believe the crass presented by Indian media.
After Samjhota Express & Malegaon blasts, Indian govt + media blamed Pakistan/ISI as usual but later turned out to be the work of Hindu Terrorists assisted by Indian Army Officers.
Quoting Madeleine Albright is pointless; she has no international credibility. Pakistan continues to fight the world's WoT & continues to sacrifice more than any other state.
Jan 1, 2009 Pakistan Newspaper (Dawn) published the quoted article below--
"The US administration is now urging Pakistan to ensure that those responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks are punished inside the country instead of being extradited to India, US sources told Dawn."
What more proof does Pakistan need now? It is such a shame as the entire nation (incuding the Pakistan President and Media) was caught lying.
Why are those liars NOT speaking up now? Just act responsible NOW pls.
As stated before; whoever it is that U.S. and/or India want to be put on trial; either the U.S. or India have to PROVIDE 'evidence' to Pakistan through diplomatic channels. Even the Interpol has supported Pakistan and has stated that India has not handed over 'any' evidence.
So if India wants to keep the evidence to itself and bake pies out of it, its not Pakistan's fault. No one will be put on trial until evidence is provided (this doesnt include Indian media stories).
Why would US even ask PAK to punish those who were behind attacks if there was NO evidence. It doesn't even make sense.
To add to it, Dawn (Pakistani) Newspaper carried out the below quoted article on 31 Dec, 2008
"Pakistani officials have found substantial links between Lashkar-e-Taiba and the gunmen who carried out the Nov 26 attacks in Mumbai, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday."
If you still don't believe me, go read your country's managed newspaper's (Dawn) website.
Again; if you understand even the most basic principles of how 'law' works; you need evidence to put the 'accused' on trial for anything. Its not abt why U.S. asked & what not; its a simple matter of how 'law' works. As I said, if India and the U.S. want to bake pies out of the evidence they have, its their headache, not Pakistan's..
Wall Street Journal's story has YET to be VERIFIED by the concerned authorities.
Pakistan's eminent political leader (Imran Khan) was fighting this battle for years with ex-President Musharraf to free to the supreme courts of Pakistan and not control them. So it is so funny that someone from Pakistan is trying to explain how 'law' works.
FBI has the evidence and process has started. Just wait and watch. We will talk about it soon.
Pak is US's partner on the war on terror so obviously they won't go against the Pakis without any evidence. Let's wait and watch!!
I'm not talkin abt Pakistan's domestic problems with independent judiciary & what not. What was being discussed was the INTERNATIONAL aspect of law when applied to relations b/w countries where one country accuses nationals of a different country & how things should be proceeded up on. You're jst another naive kid who wishes to score browny points & resorts to mixing up contexts, etc.
FBI has no jurisdiction in Pakistan. Unless evidence is handed over to Pakistan, nothing will happen..
Shabana Azmi..Javed akthar..Salman Khan..Aamir Khan..Shah Rukh Khan..Saif ali khan..Feoroz khan..Usaf khan..Abdul Kalam..Sania Mirza..Farah..Tabu..Meena Kumari..Wahida rehman..Azharuddin..Irfan Pathan..the list goes on and on ..ask them what wud have been their fate if their ancestors choose Pakistan..Do you think there are no talented people than the list i mentioned in Pakistan?But why these people are world famous and no one from Pakistan?ITS SECULAR INDIA..YES..DONT FORGET THAT..
Thats a retarded comment to make. All the individuals you mentioned are 'extraordinary' cases; NOT the 'norm'. Out of India's 150m Muslims, if you can only name even 200 Muslims who've made it big; that says NOTHING at all abt the plight of Muslim community in India.
You expect all 150 millions shud be famous like them?You are biggest moron who will always be in denial mode to accept the facts.I live in silicon valley and every muslim software guy i come across is 99.99% indian muslim..i didnt see more than 0.1% PAKI as a hit-tech professional in the world including gulf countries.Indian muslims are most succesful muslims in the world.Pakistan totally failed in educating its population forget about PAKI minorities they r reduced to museum relics
No one is in denial except you. The Sachar Committee Report on the pathetic socio-economic status of Indian Muslims was published in India by Indians. Your whining doesn't change established facts. Its like educating one ignorant kid after another, an endless stream on my videos
Accept that Pakistan is failed state buddy..otherwise not even allah can help you.Start educating urself.. stop this rhetoric..bracketing yourself with India..speaking about the plight of indian muslims etc..take care of your 130 million hungry population..kill those 2 million religious fanatics..ask ur 8 millions educated to send some back to ur country .I think this is good way forward.
Do you know what a 'failed' state is kiddo? A failed state is Somalia, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, etc. Go there & see the difference. Barking like an idiot without facts or evidence to back up your rants. Lets not even talk abt 'hunger'; India has the world's highest malnourishment rate.
Stick to the topic of this video; this is not a video by an Indian kid like yourself where all types of non-related nonseense is allowed.
In history or by geography or by culture..Indus river is real frontier with Afghanistan/Pashtunistan on west of Indus and Bharat on east of Indus..Pakistan is just a banana republic created as a result of failed mutation to subcontinent history(Jinnah's wet dreams).Now the land of Pakistan will be redistributed to the real owners ie Pasthuns/Baloch/Indians..
Figure out where u will fit in these three zones.The googlist and moron Zaid Hamid found right material,that is what happening now.If Army and ISI are eliminated..the populations of current pakistan regroup themself into these three different zones.You need not have to worry if u fall in Indian zone as secular India will take care of minority rights..but baloch and Pasthun will skin you alive for attrocrocies u have commited with them
Yes we know how 'secular' India takes care of minority rights; they can't even take care of Dalit Hindu rights to be precise; let alone 'minorities'. Anytime a minority community raises their voice against socio-economic injustices by Brahman-Fascists, they are killed in their thousands, their houses/businesses burnt, etc. Baloch n Pashtun r proud Pakistanis and we all know it hurts lil ignorant runts like you who have a hard time keeping Indian together in its current unstable form
Here comes more of the same ignorance. Pathetic Indian kids, when they cant stick to the topic of the video under discussion, they go back n whine abt a mythical history of some fantasy 'bharat' land. There was NO 'bharat' or India until the Mughals n British. There was NO Afghanistan in its present form until 1919. NO such thing as a Pashtunistan; only wetdreams of Indian kids like urself who try to deflect attention from Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Mizzoram, Kashmir; all awaiting independence..
Somalian pirates,Afghan drug cartels have more money than ur central reserve.Paki rupee is competing with Zimbawian dollor.Inflation in Pakistan soon will hit 3 digit figure..Pakistan will be bankrupt in matter of weeks if not days.Your only friend China realised this and didnt even offer a loan ,so ur president AAZ(Asif Ali Zardari) went to IMF with a begging bowl.Throw 1 million to each of ur top Army generals,they split Pakistan into million peices as gift to their donors.
More ludicrous hogwash from a kid who barely uderstands the 'e' of Economics. Still no facts from the ignorant runt, only more & more basement manufactured gibberish. Kiddo, get off of your diet of fake Indian version of koolaid & try growing a brain for a change. Hint: yeh, that sack between ur legs aint your brain..
Any more off-topic barks, will be treated the same way mad-dogs are cured by impounders.
Even now if you think what you are doing is right ie is denying everything about Pakistan...mark my words..if u r in Pakistan you will remember me after 3 years..for what i said will be true.India has a bright future..entire world is speaking about it..i can give several videos (not of indians origin on this topic)..can u give one video link( not of pakistani origin )saying Pakistan has bright future?Dont decieve urself in name of religion and Prophet who lived 700 years ago
India has an uncertain future. With more than half a dozen seperatist insurgencies going on; I wouldn't be surprised if it imploded.
Next time, before whining, provide evidence or facts. You are yourself stuck in soo much denial that you have NO clue as to the ugly side of Indian society YET. Its a steep learning curve for all ignorant Indian kids who've been fed the same information diet since childhood that 'all is well' in glorious India; only for them to realize quite late that its a myth
Again all ur points r from pakistani sources like Moron Zaid hamid etc...Tell one committe like Sachar committe that speaks about minorities in Pakistan.The reason.. Pakistan is a failed state where the rule of land is not according to will of people but according to will of army dictators/ISI and few rich NRP living in UK
Haaha! Jst because there isn't a report on minorities, a country becomes failed state? WOW. You truly must be the most ludicrous kid to come to my channel.
Reports on minorities are needed in countries like India, where atrocities like Babri Mosque demolition, mass massacres of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians takes place on a yearly bases; Pakistan may not be a 'secular' country on paper but truly has proved more 'tolerant' than the world's largest 'hyporcrisy' called India.
Agreed. There are groups in India. Atleast they are NOT attacking other countries.
Violence is not acceptable in India and action will be taken against them.
I need to remind you that UN didn't ban any organization in India. It is the Pakistani organizations that got banned. Even Pak's old friend China didn't oppose the ban in UN. What do you say about that?
Pointing the fingers at other problems doesn't take your own problem away. One should accept their mistakes and act on it !
Yeh, those groups r simply butchering Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, others in India in the name of Hindutva-Fascism.
UN hasnt banned any organization in India cuz UN is controlled by Western country, whose primary focus since 9/11 is Muslim groups which India has exploited. Already there are massive campaigns in the U.S. & U.K to ban the Hindu terrorist organizations like RSS & VHP
China didnt intervene cuz of its non-interference policy, something India does not understand.
4-5 years from now, you guys are going to look behind and think about the time when Pakistan could have acted on the so called religious Jihadis but it will be too late then.
Like I had said, you can say whatever you want to say to give yourself a false sense of satisfaction, it is NOT going to change the ground realities.
Pak is US's partner on the war on terror and
former U.S. secretary of state Madleleine Albright recently called Pakistan an International Migraine.
Perhaps you're drooling. Go to Al-Jazeera's youtube channel & watch their exclusive documentary called 'Pakistans War' which shows how much Pakistan has suffered & done to fight militants. Pakistan knows wut it has to do & is doing so.
Its quite rich coming from a naive Indian kid whose entire country lives in denial abt Hindu Terrorism perpetrated by the likes of RSS/VHP/BajrangDal, etc where Hindutva-fascists have infiltrated all aspects of Indian society & r destroying Indian from within.
WOW. Talk of 'pointing fingers' coming frm an Indian where the media + govt dont even wait 3hrs after a bomb-blast n start pointing fingers at Pakistan/ISI is jst amazing!
We'd like to hear WHAT exactly the Indian govt is going to control Hindu Terrorism? Please enlighten us. Half the Indian politician-posse is in cahoots wid Hindutva terrorists.
1) U.K. govt has a complete BAN on RSS/VHP activities under consideration.
2) Similar recommendations exist with U.S. State Dept
Give evidences. Something you always complain about NOT getting from India.
Now that you are exposed, you are coming up with statements that no one has validated.
Talk about facts and ground realities here. And boy, it is so convenient to say that Indian organization bans are under considerations. May be you should use these arguments when it actually happens!
I dont have to give you any evidence. Neither I, nor Pakistan is demanding India to hand over Hindu Terrorists to Pakistan for trial; when that situation arises, you may ask for evidence & it will be provided.
U're the only one exposed here for ranting abt everything else EXCEPT the video posted here. Quit wasting ppls' time & go get urself a REAL life instead of wanking off on youtube
Yes, all 'unbiased' persons are welcome to look at your comments which say NOTHING abt the video that is posted here.
Unlike videos put up by 5yr old Indian kids where highschool bitchfights & rants r common, this comments section is being kept to on-topic discussion only, which is understandably beyond ur Indian mentality's capacity of comprehension..
Yes you should stop ranting now since ur comments only serve to highlight ur tactics of derailing ongoing discussions.
And the reason you are getting extremly defensive is because you have painted another story by posting these videos and cannot stand someone exposing your lies.
Truth is always a bitter pill to swallow, son. Hopefully, you will learn this with time.
You said Madleleine Albright has no credibility and who in the world are you? Excuse me!! Another example of Pakis living in a state of denial!!
How about Obama? Did you see his remarks about Pakistan in one of his interview? I guess NOT
These videos don't 'paint' any story which is what ur Indian perspective leads u to believe, having grown up in that peculiar environment. These videos provide an alternate perspective which the Indian media would loathe to even consider..
I can see how much truth hurts; that evry Indian kid is obsessed with my videos, trying to counter in futile ways.
Obama's remarks stem from his inexperience in foreign policy, something he has worked on ever since uttering those ill-advised words
Do you realize you have a reason for everything and get really defensive about Pakistan.
You said Madleleine Albright has no credibility. Obama doesn't have enough foreign policy experience. US supports India just to exploit India's massive capitalist market. You tried to label Zaid's lies as rhetorics.
Seriously, I am trying to understand how far you can think. Just out of curiosity, are you also one of those guys who believe that rewards for Martydom are virgins in Paradise. huh?
What I've stated is well-known. I'm not hatching 'reasons' here. If u ever bothered to follow the U.S. Presidential race u'd know that Obama's main weakness was his inexperience which was compounded by his lack of foreign policy credentials which is why he picked Joe Biden as vice-president
So u REALLY think U.S. has any other interest in India than to exploit the 1.2b market & counter China? U'd be naive to think so
U can think whatevr you like, jst quit wasting other ppls' time wid nonsense
Keep it up Talat..We all know that a man like you never speaks up with out thorough research..Your show really made me feel proud of responsible Paki Media..
In case of Mumbai attacks, Indian media didn't accuse pak govt or military, I wonder why pak media is getting so sensitive about LeT...several of your analyst started discussing war strategies (I think Zaid Hamid is a national hero)...what do u call this? mature pak media!!! ur media assumes that anti-pak sentiment can buy indian votes but post mumbai-attack election results had shown the Indian masses are no blind fools.
Zaid Hamid is known for his rhetoric. His entire shows are based on it. Its known by 'default' that you have to take in Zaid Hamid's shows with a pinch of salt. Indian media started accusing Pakistani-ISI within 3hrs of the Mumbai attacks. The NewYork Times jst published an article today citing American intelligence community that states there is NO evidence of ISI involvement.. Kapeeesh!
I do agree that India has 10s of naxal organizations but they do have specific targets such as poiliticians, security forces and police informers. They do not bomb the common people. Leave aside RSS,VHP and BJP since I personally hate them and I am a Hindu.
Pak is facing the heat like never before in this decade...name 2000-2012 the darkest decade of Pak, sports-politics-killings, terrors! Pak is facing the wrath of its own desires....think abt progress, a little bit...spending everythin for defense, wud defense get u money back? its safety investment...fearing India action at tight Pak condition...n then wen it reaches peak, military act against India...either u r at war inside ur country or with India......PEACE!
imemadhu 1 year ago
@imemadhu: The last thing Pakistan needs is advice from Indians.. How about spending less on occupying J&K militarily with 700,000 troops & withdrawing them n letting Kashmiris decide what they want.. But ofcourse, the suffering of the Kashmiris doesn't ring a bell so far away as Chennai I suppose...
mystz1 1 year ago
India is One of the Three countries, which form the 'Axis of Evil'.
These 3 Countries are:
1) USA
2) Israel
3) India
aristotleuk 2 years ago
eik waqt aye ga india mein jo be child payda ho ga indian will say .yeh pakistan ne keya ha.__________ ha ha ha ha
shaki4me 2 years ago
Good comments
And they also behind this is ISI
sheikhbpl 2 years ago
hahaha that was so funny man!
hiltondilton 2 years ago
5) Nawaz Sharif, Former Pak PM hinted that the captured may be a Pakistani(putting his career at risk) and later buckled under pressure.
6) India presented the evidence. Pakistan rejected it for the first few days.
7) US told Pakistan that evidence was credible and confirmed the terrorism was exported to India.
8) Pakistan admitted that Kasab was a Pakistani.
These are documented facts about Mumbai attacks. You can search on Google. Please make your own opinion about Pak.
canzt2 3 years ago
5) Sharif is known for making haughty remarks for one-upmanship, nothing new.
6) India presented evidence on Jan.6th; Pak did not reject anything.
7) U.S shared Indian-provided evidence with Pakistan; yet emphasized that NO Pak state institution was involved. Mumbai attacks were conducted by non-state actors for which states are NOT responsible under Int'l Law.
8) Your whining has reached peak proportions..
mystz1 3 years ago
ah fuck off we don,t know if these were captured by raw first from nepal
wasim332 3 years ago
I want to summarize the sequence of events for Mumbai attacks.
1) Pak media said it was Indian media propaganda to put the blame on Pakistan. There is no evidence linking the attack to Pakistan.
2) UN banned 3 Pak's so called charity Organizations. Pak's friend China did't utter a word in UN. They have supported Pak atleast twice by vetoing against India.
3) Pak's government strongly protested the allegations. They said Kasab was not listed in their national DB.
canzt2 3 years ago
1) Pak media was correct abt Indian media propaganda, Pakistan/ISI was being blamed within 3hrs of Mumbai attacks even when Indian govt officials were telling Indian media, 'its too early to say who did this'.
2) The banning of charities was under scrutiny long before Mumbai attacks; India's new love affair with the U.S pressurized the UNSC to ban those organizations; no big deal, Pak still has not officially banned J-u-D.
3) Pak govt didnt lie, Kasab still isnt listed in national database.
mystz1 3 years ago
Your statements are mere words without any evidence. Pak always knew there was Pakistani connection in the Mumbai attacks even before India presented the evidence but didn't want to admit it fearing the consequences.
Evidences:
1 Geo TV (Pak) showed on TV Kasab's father admitting that Kasab wa his son.
2 Nawaz Sharif also acknowledged it but later backed off under pressure.
Pakistani Govt when admitted Kasab's nationality didn't deny that Nawaz's and Geo TV information was wrong.
canzt2 3 years ago
U're the one making ridiculous claims of 'Pak' knew there was a Pakistani connection - what evidence do u have to back u that tall claim?
1. GeoTV is still media outlet; media reporting doesnt dictate or set govt policy in Pakistan, maybe in India it does where media accuses Pakistan first, then Indian govt
2. Nawaz Sharif is a leader of a party sittin in opposition, u'd be naive to think he wasn't trying to score political points
Pak govt confirmed when India gave evidence, simple as that
mystz1 3 years ago
1. GEO TV claims turned out to be true in the end.
2. Nawaz Sharif Pak's former PM (not any ordinary minister) would be naive to put his entire career at risk suggesting Kasab may be a Pakistani and supporting the claims of Pakistan's arch enemy. If he really did that to score cheap points, may be Pak needs to get united first.
If you still want to suggest that it was am Indian media propaganda against to blame Pakistan in Mumbai attacks, please suit yourself.
canzt2 3 years ago
1. GEO TVs credibility is NOT in question. They always offer alternate perspectives to any news unlike Indian media
2. Scoring political points is common, not jst in Pakistan but also in India. That doesnt say anything abt a country being united or not; how abt we take Mr Antulay's comments regarding Hemant Karkare's death as a sign of disunity in India?
3. As stated before, further analysis of evidence that India gave Pakistan is on-going. India media DID launch propaganda campaign
mystz1 3 years ago
You are saying that Pak Media and Zaid Hamid counted on the evidence deducible from Indian media reporting. Was it Indian media that said the attacker was a Hindu? If so, how could this be an Indian media propaganda against Pakistan.
What you said that doesn't make any sense. You are seriously out of your mind and hallucinating.
canzt2 3 years ago
No, there were many aspects of evidence completely ignored by Indian media as they got busy in sensationalizing Mumbai attack reports to increase their ratings by building a case against Pakistan. Pak media used the same evidence & some that Indian media ignored to offer an alternate perspective which Indian media didnt even want bother considering.
U must be hallucinating for not understanding plain English & how a single piece of evidence can have two stories. Savor an Idiots Guide to Law
mystz1 3 years ago
Its time for both Pakistan & India to sit down together and resolve issues that hamper improvement in bilateral ties.
Finger pointing and childish fights among kids on youtube videos is not going to help anyone..
drbilla 3 years ago
This video is titled "Indian Media propaganda". Pakistan media claimed that it was an Indian media propaganda when they claimed that the captured terrorist was a Pakistani.
Daily Times, Pakistan 7th Jan, 2009 has the following quotes below"
"Islamabad has acknowledged that the lone surviving Mumbai gunman Ajmal Kasab is a Pakistani".
Guess the Pakistan president, their media and a lot of their countrymen were lying and getting defensive. What do they have to say NOW?
canzt3 3 years ago
Yes, what Pakistani media & politicians offered at the time was counter-perspective since India had NOT provided evidence. Keep in mind blatant Indian media propaganda after Samjhota Express & Malegaon blasts which were also blamed on Pakistan/ISI which later turned out to be carried out by Indians/Hindus.
India took 1.5 mnths to hand over evidence and NewYork Times report from yesterday clearly states that the 'dossier' India has handed to Pakistan & the U.S is 'designed' to frame Pakistan.
mystz1 3 years ago
blah blah blah..!! You guys (Pakis) are really full of it!!
I can't believe you (Pakis) people are still trying to point fingers at others. For the sake of your own Allah, please get real NOW and accept the fact that Pakistani people were involved in terrorist attacks in Mumbai.
India took its time as it probably wanted to see what Pakistan had to say so they can fully exposed. Not to say when one is presenting a SOLID evidence to the world, it takes time to get all things together.
canzt2 3 years ago
Quit your whining frustrated kid.
1) Until India handed over irrefutable evidence, no one can be faulted for rejecting claims that Kasab was a Pakistani national. The real crime would've been if after verifying the Indian evidence, Pakistan would've still denied his nationality.
2) Zaid Hamid, Pakistani media or anyone else is at liberty to make what conclusions they can from evidence available to them. It is no one's fault if Indian authorities chose to keep their evidence to themselves.
mystz1 3 years ago
Here are my replies:
1) Pakistan had stated that India's evidence was not credible enough when India first presented it. Incidentally, it was only after Pakistani Nation Security Advisor Durrani's 3 day visit to USA that things took a U turn. News articles suggested that Condoleeeza Rice was very blunt with Durrani and asked Pakistan to get their ducts in a row and admit to the facts.
2) Pak Media and Zaid Hamid in particular had no evidence. If he had it, he would have presented it.
canzt2 3 years ago
1) Ahem! India did NOT present ANY evidence to Pak prior to the current 'dossier'; the only so-called evidence available before was through sensationalized Indian media reporting. To solve Kashmir, India whines abt 'bilateral' solutions to Pakistan when U.N or U.S. mediation is considered but to solve Mumbai attacks, India first took evidence to FBI, MI5, etc instead of sharing it directly with Pakistan.
2) Pak Media & Zaid Hamid counted on evidence that was deducible frm Indian media reporting
mystz1 3 years ago
India presented its evidence to US,UK as they knew Pakistan will deny any connection to Mumbai attacks and they were right. Foreign citizens were killed so it is India's moral obligation (something Pak would never understand) to present the evidence to them. It was also in India's interest to show to the world that there are elements in Pak that export terrorism to India. I know Pakistan is suffering too but like any other country they need to make sure their shit stays in their own country.
canzt2 3 years ago
Unfortunately 'International Law' doesnt work according to how Indians want. Jst like 2001, after Indian parliament was attacked, this time will be no different. India will whine & whine no one will be handed over to India. Talk of 'moral obligation' coming from an Indian is disingenuous; if India were aware of its 'moral' obligations, Kashmiris would've had had a plebscite by now as per Nehru's commitments. Jst like India doesnt trust Pak to give it evidence, so shall Kashmir be resolved by UN
mystz1 3 years ago
Pakistani courts were under the control of military dictator Pervez Musharraf and Pakistan was labeled as the most dangerous nation in the world. So I feel like throwing up when someone from Pakistan talks about "International Law". The issue is NOT Kashmir here but Pakistani exported terrorism.
India claimed Kasab was a Pakistani. Pak rejected it out rightly. US, UK supported India's claimed and then Pakistan was totally exposed when they had to come clear and accept the truth.
canzt2 3 years ago
Yeh also do us all a favor, learn the difference b/w International Law & Domestic Law. Pakistani courts 'were' under a dictator & even then that affected DOMESTIC law only. Int'l Law remains constant as U.N, ICJ & World Community at large hold sway over it, not any country's local courts. *yawn* Same old retarded comments frm Indians
India claimed Kasab as Pakistani with what 'hidden' evidence they had & shared limitedly with U.S & U.K. Pak was not given the evidence so Pak was free to deny.
mystz1 3 years ago
This user tulsafunnyguy is a REAL clown! He's going on & on abt evrything BUT this video.
Way to go mystz1, keep up the good work of exposing Indian propaganda!
subtle09 3 years ago
I agree about your evidence part statement.
You guys don't believe anything India says but but NOW US is presenting the evidence. So let's wait and watch. We will soon find out.
For those reading these comments, I am only saying whatever has been documented.
Pak is US's partner on the war on terror and
former U.S. secretary of state Madleleine Albright recently called Pakistan an International Migraine.
Just wanted to give a refresher on US's perception about Pakistan.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
India has made a clown out of itself time & again so its natural for Pakistan to not believe the crass presented by Indian media.
After Samjhota Express & Malegaon blasts, Indian govt + media blamed Pakistan/ISI as usual but later turned out to be the work of Hindu Terrorists assisted by Indian Army Officers.
Quoting Madeleine Albright is pointless; she has no international credibility. Pakistan continues to fight the world's WoT & continues to sacrifice more than any other state.
mystz1 3 years ago
Jan 1, 2009 Pakistan Newspaper (Dawn) published the quoted article below--
"The US administration is now urging Pakistan to ensure that those responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks are punished inside the country instead of being extradited to India, US sources told Dawn."
What more proof does Pakistan need now? It is such a shame as the entire nation (incuding the Pakistan President and Media) was caught lying.
Why are those liars NOT speaking up now? Just act responsible NOW pls.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
As stated before; whoever it is that U.S. and/or India want to be put on trial; either the U.S. or India have to PROVIDE 'evidence' to Pakistan through diplomatic channels. Even the Interpol has supported Pakistan and has stated that India has not handed over 'any' evidence.
So if India wants to keep the evidence to itself and bake pies out of it, its not Pakistan's fault. No one will be put on trial until evidence is provided (this doesnt include Indian media stories).
mystz1 3 years ago
Why would US even ask PAK to punish those who were behind attacks if there was NO evidence. It doesn't even make sense.
To add to it, Dawn (Pakistani) Newspaper carried out the below quoted article on 31 Dec, 2008
"Pakistani officials have found substantial links between Lashkar-e-Taiba and the gunmen who carried out the Nov 26 attacks in Mumbai, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday."
If you still don't believe me, go read your country's managed newspaper's (Dawn) website.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
Again; if you understand even the most basic principles of how 'law' works; you need evidence to put the 'accused' on trial for anything. Its not abt why U.S. asked & what not; its a simple matter of how 'law' works. As I said, if India and the U.S. want to bake pies out of the evidence they have, its their headache, not Pakistan's..
Wall Street Journal's story has YET to be VERIFIED by the concerned authorities.
mystz1 3 years ago
Pakistan's eminent political leader (Imran Khan) was fighting this battle for years with ex-President Musharraf to free to the supreme courts of Pakistan and not control them. So it is so funny that someone from Pakistan is trying to explain how 'law' works.
FBI has the evidence and process has started. Just wait and watch. We will talk about it soon.
Pak is US's partner on the war on terror so obviously they won't go against the Pakis without any evidence. Let's wait and watch!!
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
I'm not talkin abt Pakistan's domestic problems with independent judiciary & what not. What was being discussed was the INTERNATIONAL aspect of law when applied to relations b/w countries where one country accuses nationals of a different country & how things should be proceeded up on. You're jst another naive kid who wishes to score browny points & resorts to mixing up contexts, etc.
FBI has no jurisdiction in Pakistan. Unless evidence is handed over to Pakistan, nothing will happen..
mystz1 3 years ago
Shabana Azmi..Javed akthar..Salman Khan..Aamir Khan..Shah Rukh Khan..Saif ali khan..Feoroz khan..Usaf khan..Abdul Kalam..Sania Mirza..Farah..Tabu..Meena Kumari..Wahida rehman..Azharuddin..Irfan Pathan..the list goes on and on ..ask them what wud have been their fate if their ancestors choose Pakistan..Do you think there are no talented people than the list i mentioned in Pakistan?But why these people are world famous and no one from Pakistan?ITS SECULAR INDIA..YES..DONT FORGET THAT..
gandaav4 3 years ago
Thats a retarded comment to make. All the individuals you mentioned are 'extraordinary' cases; NOT the 'norm'. Out of India's 150m Muslims, if you can only name even 200 Muslims who've made it big; that says NOTHING at all abt the plight of Muslim community in India.
mystz1 3 years ago
You expect all 150 millions shud be famous like them?You are biggest moron who will always be in denial mode to accept the facts.I live in silicon valley and every muslim software guy i come across is 99.99% indian muslim..i didnt see more than 0.1% PAKI as a hit-tech professional in the world including gulf countries.Indian muslims are most succesful muslims in the world.Pakistan totally failed in educating its population forget about PAKI minorities they r reduced to museum relics
gandaav4 3 years ago
No one is in denial except you. The Sachar Committee Report on the pathetic socio-economic status of Indian Muslims was published in India by Indians. Your whining doesn't change established facts. Its like educating one ignorant kid after another, an endless stream on my videos
mystz1 3 years ago
Accept that Pakistan is failed state buddy..otherwise not even allah can help you.Start educating urself.. stop this rhetoric..bracketing yourself with India..speaking about the plight of indian muslims etc..take care of your 130 million hungry population..kill those 2 million religious fanatics..ask ur 8 millions educated to send some back to ur country .I think this is good way forward.
gandaav4 3 years ago
Do you know what a 'failed' state is kiddo? A failed state is Somalia, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, etc. Go there & see the difference. Barking like an idiot without facts or evidence to back up your rants. Lets not even talk abt 'hunger'; India has the world's highest malnourishment rate.
Stick to the topic of this video; this is not a video by an Indian kid like yourself where all types of non-related nonseense is allowed.
mystz1 3 years ago
In history or by geography or by culture..Indus river is real frontier with Afghanistan/Pashtunistan on west of Indus and Bharat on east of Indus..Pakistan is just a banana republic created as a result of failed mutation to subcontinent history(Jinnah's wet dreams).Now the land of Pakistan will be redistributed to the real owners ie Pasthuns/Baloch/Indians..
gandaav4 3 years ago
Figure out where u will fit in these three zones.The googlist and moron Zaid Hamid found right material,that is what happening now.If Army and ISI are eliminated..the populations of current pakistan regroup themself into these three different zones.You need not have to worry if u fall in Indian zone as secular India will take care of minority rights..but baloch and Pasthun will skin you alive for attrocrocies u have commited with them
gandaav4 3 years ago
Yes we know how 'secular' India takes care of minority rights; they can't even take care of Dalit Hindu rights to be precise; let alone 'minorities'. Anytime a minority community raises their voice against socio-economic injustices by Brahman-Fascists, they are killed in their thousands, their houses/businesses burnt, etc. Baloch n Pashtun r proud Pakistanis and we all know it hurts lil ignorant runts like you who have a hard time keeping Indian together in its current unstable form
mystz1 3 years ago
Here comes more of the same ignorance. Pathetic Indian kids, when they cant stick to the topic of the video under discussion, they go back n whine abt a mythical history of some fantasy 'bharat' land. There was NO 'bharat' or India until the Mughals n British. There was NO Afghanistan in its present form until 1919. NO such thing as a Pashtunistan; only wetdreams of Indian kids like urself who try to deflect attention from Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Mizzoram, Kashmir; all awaiting independence..
mystz1 3 years ago
Somalian pirates,Afghan drug cartels have more money than ur central reserve.Paki rupee is competing with Zimbawian dollor.Inflation in Pakistan soon will hit 3 digit figure..Pakistan will be bankrupt in matter of weeks if not days.Your only friend China realised this and didnt even offer a loan ,so ur president AAZ(Asif Ali Zardari) went to IMF with a begging bowl.Throw 1 million to each of ur top Army generals,they split Pakistan into million peices as gift to their donors.
gandaav4 3 years ago
More ludicrous hogwash from a kid who barely uderstands the 'e' of Economics. Still no facts from the ignorant runt, only more & more basement manufactured gibberish. Kiddo, get off of your diet of fake Indian version of koolaid & try growing a brain for a change. Hint: yeh, that sack between ur legs aint your brain..
Any more off-topic barks, will be treated the same way mad-dogs are cured by impounders.
mystz1 3 years ago
Even now if you think what you are doing is right ie is denying everything about Pakistan...mark my words..if u r in Pakistan you will remember me after 3 years..for what i said will be true.India has a bright future..entire world is speaking about it..i can give several videos (not of indians origin on this topic)..can u give one video link( not of pakistani origin )saying Pakistan has bright future?Dont decieve urself in name of religion and Prophet who lived 700 years ago
gandaav4 3 years ago
India has an uncertain future. With more than half a dozen seperatist insurgencies going on; I wouldn't be surprised if it imploded.
Next time, before whining, provide evidence or facts. You are yourself stuck in soo much denial that you have NO clue as to the ugly side of Indian society YET. Its a steep learning curve for all ignorant Indian kids who've been fed the same information diet since childhood that 'all is well' in glorious India; only for them to realize quite late that its a myth
mystz1 3 years ago
Again all ur points r from pakistani sources like Moron Zaid hamid etc...Tell one committe like Sachar committe that speaks about minorities in Pakistan.The reason.. Pakistan is a failed state where the rule of land is not according to will of people but according to will of army dictators/ISI and few rich NRP living in UK
gandaav4 3 years ago
Haaha! Jst because there isn't a report on minorities, a country becomes failed state? WOW. You truly must be the most ludicrous kid to come to my channel.
Reports on minorities are needed in countries like India, where atrocities like Babri Mosque demolition, mass massacres of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians takes place on a yearly bases; Pakistan may not be a 'secular' country on paper but truly has proved more 'tolerant' than the world's largest 'hyporcrisy' called India.
mystz1 3 years ago
Agreed. There are groups in India. Atleast they are NOT attacking other countries.
Violence is not acceptable in India and action will be taken against them.
I need to remind you that UN didn't ban any organization in India. It is the Pakistani organizations that got banned. Even Pak's old friend China didn't oppose the ban in UN. What do you say about that?
Pointing the fingers at other problems doesn't take your own problem away. One should accept their mistakes and act on it !
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
Yeh, those groups r simply butchering Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, others in India in the name of Hindutva-Fascism.
UN hasnt banned any organization in India cuz UN is controlled by Western country, whose primary focus since 9/11 is Muslim groups which India has exploited. Already there are massive campaigns in the U.S. & U.K to ban the Hindu terrorist organizations like RSS & VHP
China didnt intervene cuz of its non-interference policy, something India does not understand.
mystz1 3 years ago
4-5 years from now, you guys are going to look behind and think about the time when Pakistan could have acted on the so called religious Jihadis but it will be too late then.
Like I had said, you can say whatever you want to say to give yourself a false sense of satisfaction, it is NOT going to change the ground realities.
Pak is US's partner on the war on terror and
former U.S. secretary of state Madleleine Albright recently called Pakistan an International Migraine.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
Perhaps you're drooling. Go to Al-Jazeera's youtube channel & watch their exclusive documentary called 'Pakistans War' which shows how much Pakistan has suffered & done to fight militants. Pakistan knows wut it has to do & is doing so.
Its quite rich coming from a naive Indian kid whose entire country lives in denial abt Hindu Terrorism perpetrated by the likes of RSS/VHP/BajrangDal, etc where Hindutva-fascists have infiltrated all aspects of Indian society & r destroying Indian from within.
mystz1 3 years ago
Pointing fingers at others is NOT going to make your own problems go away. Atleast, India is NOT sending terrorists in Pak.
Every country has its own problems and they are dealing with it.
Look at the facts:
1)UN banned your organizations not India's.
2) UK Gove proved that London Suicide bombers were trained in Pak.
3) Newsweek Magazine declared Pak as the most dangerous nation in the world.
4) Democratically elected Aghan Govt despises Pakistan for supporting extremists.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
WOW. Talk of 'pointing fingers' coming frm an Indian where the media + govt dont even wait 3hrs after a bomb-blast n start pointing fingers at Pakistan/ISI is jst amazing!
We'd like to hear WHAT exactly the Indian govt is going to control Hindu Terrorism? Please enlighten us. Half the Indian politician-posse is in cahoots wid Hindutva terrorists.
1) U.K. govt has a complete BAN on RSS/VHP activities under consideration.
2) Similar recommendations exist with U.S. State Dept
mystz1 3 years ago
Give evidences. Something you always complain about NOT getting from India.
Now that you are exposed, you are coming up with statements that no one has validated.
Talk about facts and ground realities here. And boy, it is so convenient to say that Indian organization bans are under considerations. May be you should use these arguments when it actually happens!
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago 2
I dont have to give you any evidence. Neither I, nor Pakistan is demanding India to hand over Hindu Terrorists to Pakistan for trial; when that situation arises, you may ask for evidence & it will be provided.
U're the only one exposed here for ranting abt everything else EXCEPT the video posted here. Quit wasting ppls' time & go get urself a REAL life instead of wanking off on youtube
mystz1 3 years ago
You just cannot said someone exposing your side of the story. Can you?
When you don't have an answer for my points, you just get defensive.
Any unbiased person can scroll down and see it for themselves.
I will just stop responding NOW as I have more important things to do than to convince someone who hails from a nation that has a history of denials.
May be one day you will start acting wise looking at hindsight!
More power to you, your nation and your false sense of beliefs.
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
Yes, all 'unbiased' persons are welcome to look at your comments which say NOTHING abt the video that is posted here.
Unlike videos put up by 5yr old Indian kids where highschool bitchfights & rants r common, this comments section is being kept to on-topic discussion only, which is understandably beyond ur Indian mentality's capacity of comprehension..
Yes you should stop ranting now since ur comments only serve to highlight ur tactics of derailing ongoing discussions.
mystz1 3 years ago
And the reason you are getting extremly defensive is because you have painted another story by posting these videos and cannot stand someone exposing your lies.
Truth is always a bitter pill to swallow, son. Hopefully, you will learn this with time.
You said Madleleine Albright has no credibility and who in the world are you? Excuse me!! Another example of Pakis living in a state of denial!!
How about Obama? Did you see his remarks about Pakistan in one of his interview? I guess NOT
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
These videos don't 'paint' any story which is what ur Indian perspective leads u to believe, having grown up in that peculiar environment. These videos provide an alternate perspective which the Indian media would loathe to even consider..
I can see how much truth hurts; that evry Indian kid is obsessed with my videos, trying to counter in futile ways.
Obama's remarks stem from his inexperience in foreign policy, something he has worked on ever since uttering those ill-advised words
mystz1 3 years ago
Do you realize you have a reason for everything and get really defensive about Pakistan.
You said Madleleine Albright has no credibility. Obama doesn't have enough foreign policy experience. US supports India just to exploit India's massive capitalist market. You tried to label Zaid's lies as rhetorics.
Seriously, I am trying to understand how far you can think. Just out of curiosity, are you also one of those guys who believe that rewards for Martydom are virgins in Paradise. huh?
tulsafunnyguy 3 years ago
What I've stated is well-known. I'm not hatching 'reasons' here. If u ever bothered to follow the U.S. Presidential race u'd know that Obama's main weakness was his inexperience which was compounded by his lack of foreign policy credentials which is why he picked Joe Biden as vice-president
So u REALLY think U.S. has any other interest in India than to exploit the 1.2b market & counter China? U'd be naive to think so
U can think whatevr you like, jst quit wasting other ppls' time wid nonsense
mystz1 3 years ago
Keep it up Talat..We all know that a man like you never speaks up with out thorough research..Your show really made me feel proud of responsible Paki Media..
syedshoaibrehman 3 years ago
In case of Mumbai attacks, Indian media didn't accuse pak govt or military, I wonder why pak media is getting so sensitive about LeT...several of your analyst started discussing war strategies (I think Zaid Hamid is a national hero)...what do u call this? mature pak media!!! ur media assumes that anti-pak sentiment can buy indian votes but post mumbai-attack election results had shown the Indian masses are no blind fools.
zenAtut 3 years ago
Zaid Hamid is known for his rhetoric. His entire shows are based on it. Its known by 'default' that you have to take in Zaid Hamid's shows with a pinch of salt. Indian media started accusing Pakistani-ISI within 3hrs of the Mumbai attacks. The NewYork Times jst published an article today citing American intelligence community that states there is NO evidence of ISI involvement.. Kapeeesh!
mystz1 3 years ago
I do agree that India has 10s of naxal organizations but they do have specific targets such as poiliticians, security forces and police informers. They do not bomb the common people. Leave aside RSS,VHP and BJP since I personally hate them and I am a Hindu.
zenAtut 3 years ago
We are not point in out mR Talat because our government is corupt.
wandp7782 3 years ago
Good on you Talat. Show immature Indian media what 'journalism' is.
subtle09 3 years ago 3