Live8 AKAI APC40

[Vortigon]

WTF the video picture the guy displays on the large screen is backwards, it's mirror flipped, haha idiots.

[realcoolking95]

is it me, or is that apc left handed??

[willmasahiro]

Yeah monome f-uped, their design got jacked by every big player in the market.

[swarm69]

its a rip off of a monome with rotary controlers

[snakeandbake]

@swarm69 yeah except it's not.

[swarm69]

@snakeandbake yea your right its not even close the launch pad however is..

in either case both apc40 and the launch pad pale in comparison to any of the monome/livid/audrinome's

[rewhas]

is this better than monodeck 2?

i don't think so...

[TheFishWalking]

well i have the novation launchpad combined with my bcr it works surprisingly well.

[damondarkwalker]

Ableton charges too damn much for upgrades.

[djfitzz]

Ableton are a business that needs to pay its staff and all other overheads and make a profit. They have to charge what they charge to stay in business. Maybe it would be cheaper if more people bought it instead of illegally downloading it!!!!!

[damondarkwalker]

That's odd, because Digidesign is also a company, and I can get an upgrade for my Pro-Tools a hell of a lot cheaper than an upgrade for my Live. The logic would be that an upgrade would be inexpensive since it's for people who have already purchased a previous version.

[djfitzz]

Go back 15 years and see how much you'd have to fork out to make music. Stop givin out!! :-)

[damondarkwalker]

I can go back 15 years and remember. LOL! Hell, I can go back 20. I still have an old SQ1 in my closet. I think I paid like $1300 for that dinosaur. :D

[3dgod]

no they would get greedy and charge even more

[djfitzz]

Ha, your your not givin up on this, fair enough

[NamonShir]

thats the sp 1200 of the 2K"s!!! amazin

[NamonShir]

can i use ableton on a pc?

[Nicuu2000]

of course ;)

[sacredgeometry]

nope its just for us mac heads :P hehe

peace

brian

[ecuodin]

yes

[scaryfishdude]

Of course!

[sonicboyPT]

shure!

[Macdaddy1129]

yes

[DirkBigler]

AKAIAPC40 COM

[djbassmint]

does anyone know if this thing can conrol the beat repeat machine? Also would it make since to use this with a trigger finger or can this thing just replace it all together. Advice please =)

[sacredgeometry]

all midi controllers can control the beat repeat even your computer keyboard can.... the trigger finger is velocity sensitivity pads its a completely different thing but again it depends on what you are using the triggerfinger for

[citizenbfk]

It's cool. Offhand I'd say 8.5 outta 10, but you can plus or minus one either way. a) I have a software controller (for another product), b) the Korg padKontrol which I think of as a drum pad (but...controls MIDI, can control effects) and c) a Yahama synthesizer.

Sitting at my desk I don't need anything else (except a friend who plays guitar and a woman who sings).

It looks very robust, but not an instrument, right? A software controller. With a good version of cool software.

Both nice to have

[sacredgeometry]

?its an instrument in the same way a akai sample like the mpc is....its your imagination that restricts you....you could have clips that play notes in a scale grid or drum pads....these are buttons but in ableton you can set it up to trigger like drums....granted without velocity but then every controlelr has drum pads these days so if you want that you can go get somthing else :) for much cheaper.

i hear you about the woman that sings...i play guitar so i would probably need that too else

[Wumpshire]

doods! raves are done, hip hop is dead...buy a guitar and amp, metal is back!

[sacredgeometry]

not too intouch with the world are you?

[sublimeboy245]

how can it be back if it was never HERE to begin with....still isn't...you can keep it though.

[mrpooch69]

About damn time! I can't wait to get my hands on one of these!

[mpchead621]

too many buttons for my taste

[aerzenusa]

Wow, very cool....they didn't use

M-Audio...that surprises me...

[fermixx]

this is one of the best ableton-dedicated controllers ever made. not much knobs but you can change channels and you 16 knobs are assigned automatically to the track.

this plus a vestax vci (or vcm, dont remember now) 600 'd be the shit !!

anyways, with this one its more than enough for me

[sacredgeometry]

its the only ableton dedicated controller as far as i know.... why would you need the vestax? isnt that a dj controller? the only thing that has that ableton would use is the corssfader which this akai has

[fermixx]

that vestax is an ableton dedicated controller too. The only problem with this one, is if you need to tweak knobs of 2 o 3 channels at the same time, both for eq'ing or effects

[sacredgeometry]

? why is that a problem you can use macro controls to do that in ableton easy s pie

[fermixx]

because there are a lot of cases in which you could need it, and since you will realize it "on the fly" its not possible to cover all macro controls.

Ex: lowering bass freqs on channel 1 while increasing bass in channel 2 and adjust a bit some effect to make a smooth transition, so you cant have macro controls. you need a separate knob for each taskt

[sacredgeometry]

Trust me there isn't a controller on earth with enough buttons so a little compromise is the way, every control on this is programmable with CC at least so you could just quickly midi learn the two controls to two pots of your choice then get on with it :D in my case i normally live mix through a mixing desk but i dont normally use ableton like a dj program i use it like a electronic puppet orchestra if that makes any sense so i guess i have a whole bunch of different problems haha

peace

brian

[fermixx]

understood. oh and btw, do you have idea if once you quickmapped the knobs you need, and once you finish tweaking the knobs you needed, can go back to the default automap instead of fixed cc ?

thank you

[sacredgeometry]

not sure but i just tested it out with my novation sl zero and basically you just delete the controller after your done and it regains control over what it set to...it should work the same hopefully

[likeTolv]

A bag of pot, live 8 and the APCI 40... That's What I need right now...! €8-)

[bizzyfingers]

@likeTolv you n me both

[olafmol]

Say ello to my little tank! ;)

[DimmBelkin]

they forgot an XY pad..

[spacer77]

saw it at Bh photo video, just Google the product with price behind it in the title, things come up.

[spacer77]

saw online about 400

[jetselaser]

Where please tell me where?

[LzI]

This is priced for $399 on B&H's website and it is coming soon

[jetselaser]

thank you for answering:D

[jetselaser]

Where did you orderd your one!!!!

what does it costs? what is the deliver time?

please you gotta let me know.

i want the apc-40 so badly

[davegrg123]

i just CREAMED MY PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rayofla]

I'm DEFINITELY Getting one :-)

[33Tetragammon]

i ordered mine today