I think people need to remember that K1 rules are not nearly as deadly as full muay thai. If they allowed clinching, elbows, and other weapons the muay thai practitioner can utilize, it would be a much different story. If one watches full muay thai fights, they are bloody brutal.
The boxer definitely knew what he was doing by closing distance, however K-1 does not permit the use of elbows or clinching so the Muay Thai fighters close range weapons are basically not allowed. This means that this was essentially a boxing match and the boxer easily outboxed the Muay Thai fighter.
@rasakith It's not as easy as you think because boxers are tough fighters to clinch.
When you try to clinch a boxer at in-fighting close range you catch nothing but air' and it's because their defensive instincts and punches in a close range like that are absolutly furious.
In other words, if boxers can close the range eventually, they will emmerge victorious everytime
@MKforlife9 Based on my personal experiences on training in boxing, I've been able to clinch my opponent's body easily, especially when I was against the ropes and he was trying to hit me with flurries. Clinching him actually what saved me from getting punched repeatedly. But he's an amateur and so am I, so I guess that makes a difference in how easy it is to actually clinch a boxer.
@MKforlife9 Actually clinching (including the Muay Thai clinch) is not allowed in K-1 nor is elbowing nor is repetitive kneeing so the Muay Thai fighters close range weapons are basically not allowed. And Muay Thai clinches are not only completely foreign to boxers but actually are very easy to pull off.
@EngineerAfghan, boxing used to have elbows, clinches, throws, backhands, footstops (when you step on someones foot to prevent them from moving) and even headbutts.... modern boxing sucks ass....
I think what happend here was a REVERSAL of what boxers usually do against other styles, but this one won.
When you look at fights like boxers vs kickboxers or toney vs couture, you realize that in those that the boxer lost they allowed the other fighter to dectate the pase of the fight.
For example James Toney allowed Couture all the time in the world to focus on his legs and shoot for the takedown whenever he wanted.
Thus usually the boxer just tries to get away and hope to get a ko punch in, allowing the other styled opponent to dectacte the paise.
HOWEVER here the boxer did exactly what he should, immediately applyed pressure to not allow the MT guy to focus on low kicks or clinching. Thus making the MT guy simply wish to get away and hope to have time to use all his tools but the boxer didnt let that happen.
@UncannyRicardo There haven't been many boxers vs muay thai fights so I can't comment on that. But I can tell you closing the distance is pretty much the best strategy for a boxer, you neutralize the legs and now they can dominate in what they do best, fists.
@poncekid56 thats not true at all muay thai is a fighting style that is useful are any distance of fighting be it long range close range or mid range and the hips are so flexible just closesing the distance wouldnt be enough to neutralize the legs
i think it all depends on the fighter. i do boxing and i wrestled for 6 years and with the proper training boxing can be deadlier than muay thai because of the sheer power, strength, and speed of boxing, the blocks, the iron jaws many boxers develop and the ability to find openings in your opponents defence. i mean if im a boxer and you do muay thai do you really think im gonna stay in range of your kicks? people say that MT has 8 weapons but boxing has 2 deadly ones.
@666fuckyou420 "boxing has 2 deadly ones."...2 of those 8 are even deadlier than Mike Tysons punch....Muay Thai elbows & knees in the thai clinch will end boxers careers. If this fight allowed elbows & knees in the clinch then the whole fight would have been different, the boxer would have stayed on the outside...as a result would have got chopped down by leg kicks...max 7 kicks lol & he wouldnt be able to stand.
It is funny to see all of this Muay Thai fans crying.I am glad that this fight was against two high level fighters,and not the traditional great Muay Thai or Kickboxer against the crappy or old boxer that have nothing to win.This fight only showed that Muay Thai is not that great.Keep crying all that you want,but this fight won't go away.
I don't think the Muay Thai dude expected the boxer to come out the gate as aggressive as he did. Just goes to show it's not the style it's how you use it.
2. boxing is superior to kickboxing because of various things : better footwork , more focusing on punches which are more important , highkicks are risky especially in streetfighting and everything above the waist the boxer can handle without problems etc. .....a boxer can also defeat a muay thai fighter if he can close the distance and dominate with his punches but lowkicks and clinch are very dangerous for us ...in general it is like this
i train boxing around 2-3 years now and even if i havent had a real competition till now i sparred a lot and i think i can say that i am a boxer (i trained a few months thaiboxing too and have sparred with thaiboxers also) and i have to say that muay thai i a little more effective in general than boxing BUT .1.kickboxing and muay thai are not the same thing ....in kickboxing there is usually no leg kicks no clinch/knees/ellbows and they use kicks from karate/taewkondo with foot and not shinbone
boxing and muay that are both the elite when it comes to striking martial arts .. personally i think a boxer that knew how to deal with kicks would win ... but if it waqs just a purely trained boxer then muay thai would take him to school and back ... either way .. i know that if you're body is physically capable of practicing both .. you'd be a fucking demon
@stealthgeeza actually, Muay Thai is considered by many the more complete and complex version of kickboxing, which itself is considered the more complete and complex version of boxing. Regardless of the fact I would recommend you learn traditional Muay Thai like @medademonic does too, I think I would recommend even more that you start with Boxing, then move to Kickboxing, then to Muay Thai. Furthermore, many Muay Thai gyms recommend you also take boxing if you are practicing Muay Thai.
@stealthgeeza It takes more than learning how to deal with kicks it take years of conditioning. A boxer could master the technique for checking and defending kicks but it would matter because his legs would not be able to take it. It would just prolong the fight. Even then I would take the MT guy based on the diversity of his attacks especially the ability to use the clinch to neutralize the boxer on the inside. I'm not saying the boxer will always lose, a good fighter always has a chance.
@veprman true, i guess i'm only talking from personal experience .. since i did mizone and praying mantis for almost 10 years before i took up boxing and pretty much fell in love with it, guess i didn't ever find kicks a problem because i've been trained for years in kick based martial arts and was prepared to deal with them better than most of my fellow boxers at the club. best thing to teach a boxer about kicks is not to be distracted by feints and always stay close so strong kicks get nulled
That was not a display of skill. That was a display of how some fighters can be overwhelmed by aggression. Once again, it's the person that makes the difference.
@bylal666 - Bros thats a really uninformed comment. Boxers only use their hands and have next to no kick, knee or elbow defense. Don't you think the person using the most and has the most skill will win? So how do you figure a boxer would win?
@iApna Wrong, in boxing there are many different punches but most of them use only a few of them. Why? Because you can be a jack of all trades, but if you don't have something mastered you're fucked.
@poncekid56 - So how am I wrong? Think about what you're saying. I have sparred many boxers. A boxers stance is a gift to Muay-Thai practitioners. The leg is in perfect position for Thai Round and so is the body.
@iApna And a muay thai fighters stance is a gift for a boxer, you're balance is sacrificed because you're using an extra weapon. Boxers are trained to move and not stand still like a muay thai fighter. Once in close range kicks are no good, elbows are still a threat but so are uppercuts
@poncekid56 - No our stance is not an issue. We need the right stance to absorb kicks and punch but also deliver them with maximum speed and force. Our bodies are trained to be a weapon head to toe. We need to keep our legs out of striking distance but also strong and quick enough to check kicks. Our lack of movement is to ensure we don't get caught with a shin or elbow to the face. Cores are extremely developed to take punishment in turn our stance is very strong compared to boxers.
@iApna That made no sense... "Lack of movement is to ensure we don't get caught..." You can train your body all you want, but EVERYBODY feels pain. Oh and boxers take the most punishment compared to all other combat sports. The amount of head trauma a boxer experiences often leads them to develop parkinsons and brain damage
@poncekid56 - Bros, watch Muay-Thai videos. Did you watch the last video link I posted? That shows how a boxer was being picked apart. At 1:33 it shows how the Thai fighter was setting up the boxer. Kicked low, then boxer bounced to his left almost into the Shin of the Thai fighter. That could have been KO possible split skull, smashed face.
I use a lot of head movement but not bobbing. I move but not like a boxer more Muay-Thai MMA style.
@poncekid56 - Boxers use 2 limbs Muay-Thai use 8 limbs to fight.
Boxing vs Muay-Thai: Paste this into your URL
/watch?v=EDjE4BywrE4&feature=related
Muay-Thai the art of 8 limbs is a deadly art. Search for Ramon Dekkers highlight, Buakaw or just Muay-Thai knocks-outs and you will see. Muay-Thai is Thailands national sport. Think about that.
Watch: Sport Science Hardest Kick
/watch?v=maQINqPI7S0&feature=related
Boxing vs Muay-Thai? Ya right bros. Not a fuckin chance.
@iApna It doesn't matter how many limbs and other bs you have. It's all about how you use em. Just like in the video, he canceled out this man's "limbs" and he fucked him up. End of story
@poncekid56 - Bros just do you research. There are 60,000 pro-Muay-Thai fighters in the world. The problem with Muay-Thai is the number of associations. But guys like Buakaw in K-1 or living legend Ramon Dekkers are true representations of Muay-Thai
Ramon Dekkers is someone you can relate to. He used his hands to knockout Thailands champ. He uses elbows, knees, shin as well but his strengths were in his hands. The Thai's loved Ramon Dekkers.
@iApna You just supported my evaluation about the whole "limbs" argument. He had knees and elbows at his disposal, but he used his hands mostly. It doesn't matter how many tools you have, it's how effective you can use em
@poncekid56 - Bros Thai boxers use their hands like boxers. Boxing is a big part of Muay-Thai. You can use low kicks to set your opponent up for a hard right cross. My club specializes in clinching. Ramon Dekkers specialized in boxing but used kicks and elbows. Some others specialize heavily on kicks.
@poncekid56 - Boxers take the most head punishment because most boxers are just head hunters. In Muay-Thai we can break the legs, crush the ribs, crack the jaw. We just have many more options. Although the head is normally the primary target. But we can setup the opponent with body/leg kicks. We don't got 12 rounds we go 5 rounds. In MMA we can win the fight without throwing a single punch.
I do like sparring boxers. It does help me develop my speed.
Lame.. I prefer the art of boxing, but this one is really because the MT guy suxs.. He should make use of the shin to make the boxer fall, not adaptable i guess..
will these swedish and japan people stop putting muay thai to their name cause they are definitely not good at muay thai at all. a real thai fighter will make short work of these two.
Excellent tactic by Choi Yong Soo. Why allow your opponent to set up his offense when you can finish him off quickly? That's the difference between a legit world champion and some guy who is just good with his art - he uses his mind effectively.
Don't be surprised why the Muay Thai boxer didn't clinch. Those body shots hurt like hell. If he decided to clinch, he would leave himself too wide open, and thus ending the match quicker.
@ninjawarriordude - Ah yes, I finally found the rule. You are allowed to clinch if you have the intention of delivering one and only one knee, after that you should release the clinch. That's probably why Buakaw and the rest don't do it as often anymore. So, the MT guy could've still clinched and delivered a knee, then released the hold. At any rate, thanks for the info.
boxing beating muaythai? thats bullshit muaythai got knee elbows punches kicks legs feet. boxing only hands. and plus this muaythai guy is a western white boy not the real thais. put a boxing in a ring against a muaythai fighter is like puting a cat in a cage with a lion.
umm... yeah okay Muay thai has hands,legs,knees,and elbows.. boxing only has hands.. but it only takes 1 punch to knowck out out.... so just cause muay thai has more weapons doesnt mean its gonna win. Whoever lands the best hit is gonna win.
What makes u think its easy to KO a boxer? they not gonna stand there either....
I never said it was easy.. i said it only takes 1 hit to knock someone out if its a good hit.. so Boxing vs Mauy thai just depends on who gets the good hit first
Mma guys allways want to be associated with mauy thai. "REAL" muay thai fighters should defend the sport. Just cause these faggot mma guys like to train in mauy thai does not make them expert muay thai fighters. They would get they're asses beat in a muay thai or kickboxing fight.
@IWillKillYourKids I wonder if any of those so called fighters trained in real Muai Thai or some lame ass American kickboxing. I bet none of them even trained in Thailand.
@Kaisertoji so called fighters? pull your head out of your ass, all the best mma fighters come from the UFC wich is ULTIMATE FIGHTING!!! there are mma fighters that have trained in thailand, you just have too look, but i guess thats hard with your head up your ass
both of them suck ass. i don't even know what the hell that was supposed to be, but it wasn't a skilled fight. just some aggressive fag that throws from the waist wailing on an even bigger fag that just gave my martial art a bad fucking name.
someone, please link me to watchable mt vids? matches, not just ko montages.
You know i have watched so many Muay Thai videos on youtube today! and atleast one or two people say the same thing, this fighter is a tool for Muay Thai. No there not, they just got beat fair and square, the only fighters you don't call "tools" are ones that win, welldone, your a bullie in life simple as that, its people like you who ruined martial arts, bunch of bullies.
actually mister TKD, this fight does not allow elbows or multiple knees from the clinch. its pretty much a kickboxer vs a boxer. if it was muay thai vs boxing, they would have fought under muay thai rules. in addition, yes muay thai fighters are human and they lose sometimes. but like if you were to do boxing vs muay thai, probably like 7 out of 10 times, the kickboxer or muay thai fighter would win.
How would they kill everyone? Just because you have a weapon in your arsenal doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to use it effectively. Mma is just a fad. It hasn't become popular until people saw the "cool" looking gloves.
This video doesn't prove anything. Look back to the early days of Gracie. Or Ramon Dekkers vs a BJJ practitioner. Dekkers is a legend and can't be disputed but lost without a drop a blood or being seriously hurt. The fighter who executes the technique has a lot to do with it but the tools need to be there for the fighter to use.
I love boxing, and I love Muay Thai, but in terms of importance, I'd say Boxing is the more important style between the two. I say this not because of any bais toward one art or the other, but going by the numbers fights are finished by punches far more often than kicks, knees, or elbows. IMHO, you're better off working your punches as much as possible in either form of fighting, but don't forget to work your legs enough no matter which route you take.
Its best to probably learn how to box, as well as use your feet, use every part of your body as a weapon but yeah its good to incorperate more then one form of fighting
I tried to get to the meat of the video where one buy versus the other guy and all you see is intro stuff. When I try to fast forward to the actual match, it hangs up and you can't do anything. I don't have the patience to wait for the match, I just ant to see the match, as is probably the case w/most people.
once again people speaking bollock it doesnt matter about the style it matters about the person, whats the point in having a nails thai boxer with a weak chin with a boxer who here closed the distance knew exactly what he was guna do!, regardless of style its the fighter that wins the fight!! exactly what bruce lee said styles limit people!
lol that guy doesnt focus..... Muay Thai kill boxers good because been there and there is no way for that boxing guy win against the real muay thai.. lol well 1995 - 2002 i used be muay thai for 7 years , 363 games in row... so the boxer that i fight i got him down in 2nd around and got that boxer guy broke his jaws with my elbow. lol well it long time ago and my neck got breakdown closed to paralyzed tho so i retired i was 24 well it good game tho
in my opinion boxing is absolutely necessary if you do MA. ive done a few martial arts and then boxed and boy did it improv my hand work and hand eye coordination.
however, boxers are not AT ALL prepared to deal with high kicks, knees, shins, and elbows from a solid Muay Thai fighter. i dont understand why not one leg went up from the muay thai dude.... but hey, thats why its all about the fighter and not the style. a style can only "lead" you in the right direction. props to WBA.
a boxer wud never stand a chance againt a decent thai or kick boxer this guy sucked if sum1 ran at a real thai boxer like that they wud jus step to the side and pound a shin in ya face ye boi hw cn ppl even be tryin to compare boxing to real fightin sports boxings like very basic punch block move ye right
This Muay Thai fighter is decent. hes a champion of his fucking country...Im not trying to diss muay thai its one of my two martial arts. But boxing has a much more stronger stance...Im looking into getting into boxing or muay thai but im looking at boxing a little more because its so much more of a stronger stance. The thing keeping me from joining is the fact that i have some world-champ tree stumps...A boxer that knows how to switch up his stance and throw kicks and can grapple is the way man
Indeed there was no grapping or knees because that may have turned the match around. But the boxer was just superior in this case.
novaboi24 2 weeks ago
first off fuck this video, 80% of it is an intro and secondly they picked the biggest pussy to represent muay thai.
hockeydude303 3 weeks ago
This guy had had cut 15 kilos in 2 weeks thats probably why he did go down of the bodyshot
mrprinskorv 3 weeks ago
this muay thai fighter really a shame one, he dun even use his MT skill, just blocked and fall down, and even the front kick is weak! shame on him
MrKailchi 4 weeks ago
Not a real muay thai fighter..... what a disgrace
ldoooooggggg 1 month ago
fight starts 8:30
speedpianomaster 1 month ago
what is this shit the guy didn't even fight back i saw no thai and no boxe this video is shit
Wicel0 1 month ago
that boxer was a cunt flap . try fighting against a thailand muay thai fighter .
Vestigas 1 month ago
obviously the people who do boxing are going to agree that boxing is better.....
AndyNiceDude 2 months ago
DRITON RAMA ESHTE SHQIPTAR!!!!
Scarfac3e3 2 months ago
this looks really really fake. Korea has a huge problem with setting up fights for support of national pride... sad.
theTokyoDreamMachine 3 months ago
I think people need to remember that K1 rules are not nearly as deadly as full muay thai. If they allowed clinching, elbows, and other weapons the muay thai practitioner can utilize, it would be a much different story. If one watches full muay thai fights, they are bloody brutal.
schmopykins 3 months ago
The boxer definitely knew what he was doing by closing distance, however K-1 does not permit the use of elbows or clinching so the Muay Thai fighters close range weapons are basically not allowed. This means that this was essentially a boxing match and the boxer easily outboxed the Muay Thai fighter.
EngineerAfghan 5 months ago
muay thai guy should have clinched him. there is no way he was going to beat the boxer at the punching range.
rasakith 6 months ago
@rasakith It's not as easy as you think because boxers are tough fighters to clinch.
When you try to clinch a boxer at in-fighting close range you catch nothing but air' and it's because their defensive instincts and punches in a close range like that are absolutly furious.
In other words, if boxers can close the range eventually, they will emmerge victorious everytime
MKforlife9 6 months ago
@MKforlife9 Based on my personal experiences on training in boxing, I've been able to clinch my opponent's body easily, especially when I was against the ropes and he was trying to hit me with flurries. Clinching him actually what saved me from getting punched repeatedly. But he's an amateur and so am I, so I guess that makes a difference in how easy it is to actually clinch a boxer.
rasakith 6 months ago
@MKforlife9 Actually clinching (including the Muay Thai clinch) is not allowed in K-1 nor is elbowing nor is repetitive kneeing so the Muay Thai fighters close range weapons are basically not allowed. And Muay Thai clinches are not only completely foreign to boxers but actually are very easy to pull off.
EngineerAfghan 5 months ago
@EngineerAfghan, boxing used to have elbows, clinches, throws, backhands, footstops (when you step on someones foot to prevent them from moving) and even headbutts.... modern boxing sucks ass....
NeCacaluXuxultic 5 months ago
Meh ... the usual one out of two gets his ass kicked
NeroSNT 7 months ago
Match looks rigged...
H0tkebab 8 months ago
Thats what happens when a boxer comes straight at you and closes the distance in his favor
baseballme1t 8 months ago
I enjoy watching the people who glorify Muay Thai cry like a bitch when one of their fighters gets owned. Get over it, fags.
glassessn 9 months ago 5
@glassessn Hahaha, well said.
MasterMacLeod 7 months ago
looks fixed to me.. that muat thai CHAMP! need to feed his family
afifathnin 9 months ago
The boxer did exactly what he should have, close the distance so he can't use his legs.
poncekid56 10 months ago 12
The muay thai artist seems to be better suited on the outside, while the boxer would be better applying constant pressure.
Pbelone 10 months ago
@Pbelone muay thai boxers ..are also boxers...it all depends on their skill how they choose to use their hands
revelation1234 10 months ago
wtf is up with driton you just dont stand there and shell up when a boxer attacks u go for the clinch god damnit...!
kaosohk 11 months ago
IT LOOKS LIKE TOTAL BULSHIT
JUKEBOXX1990 1 year ago
CRAZIEST FIGHT ..LOL...
JUKEBOXX1990 1 year ago
didnt expect that. good shit.
scottklaus666 1 year ago
I think what happend here was a REVERSAL of what boxers usually do against other styles, but this one won.
When you look at fights like boxers vs kickboxers or toney vs couture, you realize that in those that the boxer lost they allowed the other fighter to dectate the pase of the fight.
For example James Toney allowed Couture all the time in the world to focus on his legs and shoot for the takedown whenever he wanted.
cont...
UncannyRicardo 1 year ago
@UncannyRicardo
Thus usually the boxer just tries to get away and hope to get a ko punch in, allowing the other styled opponent to dectacte the paise.
HOWEVER here the boxer did exactly what he should, immediately applyed pressure to not allow the MT guy to focus on low kicks or clinching. Thus making the MT guy simply wish to get away and hope to have time to use all his tools but the boxer didnt let that happen.
UncannyRicardo 1 year ago 2
@UncannyRicardo There haven't been many boxers vs muay thai fights so I can't comment on that. But I can tell you closing the distance is pretty much the best strategy for a boxer, you neutralize the legs and now they can dominate in what they do best, fists.
poncekid56 11 months ago
@poncekid56 thats not true at all muay thai is a fighting style that is useful are any distance of fighting be it long range close range or mid range and the hips are so flexible just closesing the distance wouldnt be enough to neutralize the legs
Raiton45 11 months ago
@Raiton45 Explain, the only thing they would have is the clinch, which still leaves his body wide open
poncekid56 11 months ago
K1 is not a style ,it is a organisation,K1 if kungfu Karate taekwondo kickboxing.anything that has K in it.
yimmiytube 1 year ago
d q sirve ver una pelea tan corta...la wea fome ....la gente s debe haber dao l meo pique p ir i no ver naa
vicleon69 1 year ago
Isn´t the martial art that makes the difference... but the fighter.
But, no one can win a brazilian jiu-jitsu fighter without ground defense base. Fact.
Peace..
RaphaelGym 1 year ago
Asian bridals here **busizz4me.info**
thorkakortani 1 year ago
go korea!!!
skaterockerloc 1 year ago
i think it all depends on the fighter. i do boxing and i wrestled for 6 years and with the proper training boxing can be deadlier than muay thai because of the sheer power, strength, and speed of boxing, the blocks, the iron jaws many boxers develop and the ability to find openings in your opponents defence. i mean if im a boxer and you do muay thai do you really think im gonna stay in range of your kicks? people say that MT has 8 weapons but boxing has 2 deadly ones.
666fuckyou420 1 year ago 8
@666fuckyou420 "boxing has 2 deadly ones."...2 of those 8 are even deadlier than Mike Tysons punch....Muay Thai elbows & knees in the thai clinch will end boxers careers. If this fight allowed elbows & knees in the clinch then the whole fight would have been different, the boxer would have stayed on the outside...as a result would have got chopped down by leg kicks...max 7 kicks lol & he wouldnt be able to stand.
realityIZanILLUSION 1 month ago
peleen poh sapos culiaos
UnknowzChannel 1 year ago
hey guys should i take muay thai or boxing?
13randonLee 1 year ago
@13randonLee try both a few times and take the gym you like the most.
MuayThaiViking 1 year ago
@13randonLee both
skaterockerloc 1 year ago
muay thai is the basic of mma boxing dosent stand a chance againts mma boxing is good only vs karate , this muay thai fighter was weak
25ad 1 year ago
@25ad Cry moar.
MasterMacLeod 7 months ago
All intro no fighting.
mistycat1 1 year ago
It is funny to see all of this Muay Thai fans crying.I am glad that this fight was against two high level fighters,and not the traditional great Muay Thai or Kickboxer against the crappy or old boxer that have nothing to win.This fight only showed that Muay Thai is not that great.Keep crying all that you want,but this fight won't go away.
133831 1 year ago
@133831 Huh? The MT guy is 0-2.
Malk64 11 months ago
@133831 I couldn't have said it any better. Perfect wording.
MasterMacLeod 7 months ago
He should have used teeps, and clinching and knees if the rules allowed. Looked like he didn't even try.
veprman 1 year ago
I don't think the Muay Thai dude expected the boxer to come out the gate as aggressive as he did. Just goes to show it's not the style it's how you use it.
Skywolf224 1 year ago
2. boxing is superior to kickboxing because of various things : better footwork , more focusing on punches which are more important , highkicks are risky especially in streetfighting and everything above the waist the boxer can handle without problems etc. .....a boxer can also defeat a muay thai fighter if he can close the distance and dominate with his punches but lowkicks and clinch are very dangerous for us ...in general it is like this
1.mt
2.boxing
3.kickboxing
62Power 1 year ago
i train boxing around 2-3 years now and even if i havent had a real competition till now i sparred a lot and i think i can say that i am a boxer (i trained a few months thaiboxing too and have sparred with thaiboxers also) and i have to say that muay thai i a little more effective in general than boxing BUT .1.kickboxing and muay thai are not the same thing ....in kickboxing there is usually no leg kicks no clinch/knees/ellbows and they use kicks from karate/taewkondo with foot and not shinbone
62Power 1 year ago
I would personally recommend people to learn traditional Muay Thai and not that junk they teach specifically for UFC and MMA.
megadomonic 1 year ago
pacqiao even did a little muay thai
romulux7 1 year ago
boxing and muay that are both the elite when it comes to striking martial arts .. personally i think a boxer that knew how to deal with kicks would win ... but if it waqs just a purely trained boxer then muay thai would take him to school and back ... either way .. i know that if you're body is physically capable of practicing both .. you'd be a fucking demon
stealthgeeza 1 year ago
@stealthgeeza actually, Muay Thai is considered by many the more complete and complex version of kickboxing, which itself is considered the more complete and complex version of boxing. Regardless of the fact I would recommend you learn traditional Muay Thai like @medademonic does too, I think I would recommend even more that you start with Boxing, then move to Kickboxing, then to Muay Thai. Furthermore, many Muay Thai gyms recommend you also take boxing if you are practicing Muay Thai.
Regards
freedomismygod 1 year ago
@stealthgeeza It takes more than learning how to deal with kicks it take years of conditioning. A boxer could master the technique for checking and defending kicks but it would matter because his legs would not be able to take it. It would just prolong the fight. Even then I would take the MT guy based on the diversity of his attacks especially the ability to use the clinch to neutralize the boxer on the inside. I'm not saying the boxer will always lose, a good fighter always has a chance.
veprman 1 year ago
@veprman true, i guess i'm only talking from personal experience .. since i did mizone and praying mantis for almost 10 years before i took up boxing and pretty much fell in love with it, guess i didn't ever find kicks a problem because i've been trained for years in kick based martial arts and was prepared to deal with them better than most of my fellow boxers at the club. best thing to teach a boxer about kicks is not to be distracted by feints and always stay close so strong kicks get nulled
stealthgeeza 1 year ago
That was not a display of skill. That was a display of how some fighters can be overwhelmed by aggression. Once again, it's the person that makes the difference.
sirchompsalot 1 year ago
Did you see what the boxer did? rushed in, your kicks will be no good in close distances and an uppercut reaches your face faster than a knee....
poncekid56 1 year ago
Who is Muay Thai and who is Boxing?
fjtrkdjffg 1 year ago
Any Muay Thai Champion does not stand a chance wins against true professional boxer.
bylal666 1 year ago
@bylal666 - Bros thats a really uninformed comment. Boxers only use their hands and have next to no kick, knee or elbow defense. Don't you think the person using the most and has the most skill will win? So how do you figure a boxer would win?
/watch?v=M3R4xtjl5b4
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna Wrong, in boxing there are many different punches but most of them use only a few of them. Why? Because you can be a jack of all trades, but if you don't have something mastered you're fucked.
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - So how am I wrong? Think about what you're saying. I have sparred many boxers. A boxers stance is a gift to Muay-Thai practitioners. The leg is in perfect position for Thai Round and so is the body.
Check this out:
/watch?v=EDjE4BywrE4&feature=related
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna And a muay thai fighters stance is a gift for a boxer, you're balance is sacrificed because you're using an extra weapon. Boxers are trained to move and not stand still like a muay thai fighter. Once in close range kicks are no good, elbows are still a threat but so are uppercuts
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - No our stance is not an issue. We need the right stance to absorb kicks and punch but also deliver them with maximum speed and force. Our bodies are trained to be a weapon head to toe. We need to keep our legs out of striking distance but also strong and quick enough to check kicks. Our lack of movement is to ensure we don't get caught with a shin or elbow to the face. Cores are extremely developed to take punishment in turn our stance is very strong compared to boxers.
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna That made no sense... "Lack of movement is to ensure we don't get caught..." You can train your body all you want, but EVERYBODY feels pain. Oh and boxers take the most punishment compared to all other combat sports. The amount of head trauma a boxer experiences often leads them to develop parkinsons and brain damage
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Bros, watch Muay-Thai videos. Did you watch the last video link I posted? That shows how a boxer was being picked apart. At 1:33 it shows how the Thai fighter was setting up the boxer. Kicked low, then boxer bounced to his left almost into the Shin of the Thai fighter. That could have been KO possible split skull, smashed face.
I use a lot of head movement but not bobbing. I move but not like a boxer more Muay-Thai MMA style.
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna No I did not see the link, and I'm pretty sure it's just a lame video with a shitty boxer on it
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Boxers use 2 limbs Muay-Thai use 8 limbs to fight.
Boxing vs Muay-Thai: Paste this into your URL
/watch?v=EDjE4BywrE4&feature=related
Muay-Thai the art of 8 limbs is a deadly art. Search for Ramon Dekkers highlight, Buakaw or just Muay-Thai knocks-outs and you will see. Muay-Thai is Thailands national sport. Think about that.
Watch: Sport Science Hardest Kick
/watch?v=maQINqPI7S0&feature=related
Boxing vs Muay-Thai? Ya right bros. Not a fuckin chance.
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna It doesn't matter how many limbs and other bs you have. It's all about how you use em. Just like in the video, he canceled out this man's "limbs" and he fucked him up. End of story
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Bros just do you research. There are 60,000 pro-Muay-Thai fighters in the world. The problem with Muay-Thai is the number of associations. But guys like Buakaw in K-1 or living legend Ramon Dekkers are true representations of Muay-Thai
Ramon Dekkers is someone you can relate to. He used his hands to knockout Thailands champ. He uses elbows, knees, shin as well but his strengths were in his hands. The Thai's loved Ramon Dekkers.
Fights = 208
Wins = 186
By knockout = 95.
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna You just supported my evaluation about the whole "limbs" argument. He had knees and elbows at his disposal, but he used his hands mostly. It doesn't matter how many tools you have, it's how effective you can use em
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Bros Thai boxers use their hands like boxers. Boxing is a big part of Muay-Thai. You can use low kicks to set your opponent up for a hard right cross. My club specializes in clinching. Ramon Dekkers specialized in boxing but used kicks and elbows. Some others specialize heavily on kicks.
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna Like I said, more tools isn't always better. Kicks can be neutralized despite only using your hands
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Yes the same could be said about someone's punches. Either way Muay-Thai is the dominate striking art.
iApna 1 year ago
@poncekid56 It's not which is why you keep trying to avoid the other videos lmfao
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 -
This is an interesting video you might like:
Search for: Human Weapon Muay Thai of Thailand Part 1
or use this below
/watch?v=Rgp9ed-kFpo&feature=related
iApna 1 year ago
@poncekid56 - Boxers take the most head punishment because most boxers are just head hunters. In Muay-Thai we can break the legs, crush the ribs, crack the jaw. We just have many more options. Although the head is normally the primary target. But we can setup the opponent with body/leg kicks. We don't got 12 rounds we go 5 rounds. In MMA we can win the fight without throwing a single punch.
I do like sparring boxers. It does help me develop my speed.
iApna 1 year ago
only diference between k-1 and muay thai is that there is no clinch in K-1.. "/
stesta90 1 year ago
@stesta90: No elbows either
aa3gunner 1 year ago
My favorite part about this video (besides the 8 minute intro) is that the MT guy didn't use his legs, or control fight distance.
Lytestrykes1 1 year ago
lmao muay thai is shit boxing owns mt mma and every other shit
ALEX32369 1 year ago
Lame.. I prefer the art of boxing, but this one is really because the MT guy suxs.. He should make use of the shin to make the boxer fall, not adaptable i guess..
in1pieces 1 year ago
will these swedish and japan people stop putting muay thai to their name cause they are definitely not good at muay thai at all. a real thai fighter will make short work of these two.
Vuehmong 1 year ago
boring^^
Dbeigi 2 years ago
looks like he got fucked by a liver shot?
stevensartifacts 2 years ago
skip to 8:14 to skip all the intro
stevensartifacts 2 years ago 56
that MT guy is a disgrace.
NinjaWarriorDude 2 years ago
this is not boxe... sorry, but this no boxe...
suon88 2 years ago
boxing? why did he use a kick at 8:52 tch lame...thought he'd ko him at least
Ain0y 2 years ago
Excellent tactic by Choi Yong Soo. Why allow your opponent to set up his offense when you can finish him off quickly? That's the difference between a legit world champion and some guy who is just good with his art - he uses his mind effectively.
Don't be surprised why the Muay Thai boxer didn't clinch. Those body shots hurt like hell. If he decided to clinch, he would leave himself too wide open, and thus ending the match quicker.
ocramnoel 2 years ago
@ocramnoel I dont think they allow the clinch in K-1 anymore. I think it was banned because the MT guys were dominating with it too much,
NinjaWarriorDude 2 years ago
Really? I though only elbows were banned. How long has this rule been in effect?
ocramnoel 2 years ago
@ocramnoel I think its been banned for a while now... notice how Bukaw doesn't knee people's faces in anymore. At least a year or so now.
NinjaWarriorDude 2 years ago
@ninjawarriordude - Ah yes, I finally found the rule. You are allowed to clinch if you have the intention of delivering one and only one knee, after that you should release the clinch. That's probably why Buakaw and the rest don't do it as often anymore. So, the MT guy could've still clinched and delivered a knee, then released the hold. At any rate, thanks for the info.
ocramnoel 2 years ago
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Muay Thai fighter was weak as shit!! Boxing will always win.
kicka888 2 years ago
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kicka888 2 years ago
boxing beating muaythai? thats bullshit muaythai got knee elbows punches kicks legs feet. boxing only hands. and plus this muaythai guy is a western white boy not the real thais. put a boxing in a ring against a muaythai fighter is like puting a cat in a cage with a lion.
phon084 2 years ago
umm... yeah okay Muay thai has hands,legs,knees,and elbows.. boxing only has hands.. but it only takes 1 punch to knowck out out.... so just cause muay thai has more weapons doesnt mean its gonna win. Whoever lands the best hit is gonna win.
Brazilianjj 2 years ago
what make u think its that easy to ko a thai? thier not that stupid to stand thier and get hit
phon084 2 years ago
What makes u think its easy to KO a boxer? they not gonna stand there either....
I never said it was easy.. i said it only takes 1 hit to knock someone out if its a good hit.. so Boxing vs Mauy thai just depends on who gets the good hit first
Brazilianjj 2 years ago
look up Ramon Dekkers you fuckin mooley
giovannialvarez 2 years ago
the same ramon dekker who got his ass kick by sakmongkol and coban? and many more thais?
phon084 2 years ago
looks like no elbows rules to me
landgabriel 2 years ago
BOXING!
eyezaya 2 years ago
It is a well known fact that Muay thai fighters, Sanda, and any kickboxing style usually have weak boxing skills
randyds5 2 years ago
lol not all only the sucky ones, the kickboxing champs all have good boxing skills
shuriken86 2 years ago
i can't believe i sat through the longest intro in the universe to watch the most pathetic fight on youtube.
aa3gunner 2 years ago
this intro was too freakin long
aa3gunner 2 years ago
7 minutes introducing omg..
shadowsabere 2 years ago
damn that guy fucking sucked
IWillKillYourKids 2 years ago
ROFL!, SOOO SOLD GAME FOR MONEY
Music4Lifecity 2 years ago
porfavor alguien sabe como se llama la cancion de entrada ese sonitdo de guitarra
rubenben0123 2 years ago
Mma guys allways want to be associated with mauy thai. "REAL" muay thai fighters should defend the sport. Just cause these faggot mma guys like to train in mauy thai does not make them expert muay thai fighters. They would get they're asses beat in a muay thai or kickboxing fight.
MrZetruth 2 years ago
muay thai is highly respected in the world of mma shit for brains some of the greatest fighters in mma have muay thai backgrounds,
IWillKillYourKids 2 years ago 10
@IWillKillYourKids I wonder if any of those so called fighters trained in real Muai Thai or some lame ass American kickboxing. I bet none of them even trained in Thailand.
Kaisertoji 1 year ago
@Kaisertoji so called fighters? pull your head out of your ass, all the best mma fighters come from the UFC wich is ULTIMATE FIGHTING!!! there are mma fighters that have trained in thailand, you just have too look, but i guess thats hard with your head up your ass
IWillKillYourKids 1 year ago
strongly agreed
aa3gunner 2 years ago
chupen la berga ponjas putos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
promotonti 2 years ago
i assume that the sweden guy aint better than buakaw or nieky? and why would they put him in the fight?!?!?!
kfjfkli2 2 years ago
a spank in the ass at the end!!! LOL!!
sapherosth 2 years ago
um, no.
both of them suck ass. i don't even know what the hell that was supposed to be, but it wasn't a skilled fight. just some aggressive fag that throws from the waist wailing on an even bigger fag that just gave my martial art a bad fucking name.
someone, please link me to watchable mt vids? matches, not just ko montages.
sheep2slaughter 2 years ago
Where's technique?
bosasbosaitis 2 years ago
honestly, this is some fkn tool representing muay thai in this video.
watch this:
watch?v=xBG9PeImA10&feature=fvw
zpedalkin 2 years ago
You know i have watched so many Muay Thai videos on youtube today! and atleast one or two people say the same thing, this fighter is a tool for Muay Thai. No there not, they just got beat fair and square, the only fighters you don't call "tools" are ones that win, welldone, your a bullie in life simple as that, its people like you who ruined martial arts, bunch of bullies.
TheTaeKwonDoTube 2 years ago
So true mate, fuck theese faggots here
WoOTfoOT 2 years ago
actually mister TKD, this fight does not allow elbows or multiple knees from the clinch. its pretty much a kickboxer vs a boxer. if it was muay thai vs boxing, they would have fought under muay thai rules. in addition, yes muay thai fighters are human and they lose sometimes. but like if you were to do boxing vs muay thai, probably like 7 out of 10 times, the kickboxer or muay thai fighter would win.
AFGalwayz 2 years ago
disagree.
poncekid56 2 years ago
Bruno?
shinigami19xx 2 years ago
that head fuck that calls himself a muay thai fighter is a fucking dickhead.. he froze and is too flat footed. worst person to represent muay thai..
123B3NJAM1N321 2 years ago
The boxer didn't do that well either. He hasn't fought out of Japan and just rushed in.
gordenjeff1 2 years ago
Im a little new to K1 so what are the rules exactly? And i take it the red trunks was the boxer?
Either way, doesn't really do muay thai justice lol. The MT fighter was clearly not as aggressive and actually looked reluctant to attack.
204shane 2 years ago
k-1 combines pretty much all stand up fighting. Kind of like MMA, except without the gay sex
gordenjeff1 2 years ago
ROTFLMAO! You're fuckin hilarious! "like MMA, except without the gay sex!" Genius!
rajnish89 2 years ago
lol yeah so true
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
k-1 doesnt allow elbows or or multiple knees from the clinch. this is so the muay thai fighters don't kill everyone.
as for your mma comment, mma is the evolution of combat sports.
AFGalwayz 2 years ago
How would they kill everyone? Just because you have a weapon in your arsenal doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to use it effectively. Mma is just a fad. It hasn't become popular until people saw the "cool" looking gloves.
poncekid56 2 years ago
how is MMA a fad? statements like taht cant be proven unless MMA disappears. it is only speculation.
Dereksag14 2 years ago
This video proves it.. It's not the fighting style that's superior just the fighters who use it.
FlashmanJW 2 years ago
It can also be who gets the 1st few strikes in; however MT offers one a heck of a lot more options then just boxing
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
This video doesn't prove anything. Look back to the early days of Gracie. Or Ramon Dekkers vs a BJJ practitioner. Dekkers is a legend and can't be disputed but lost without a drop a blood or being seriously hurt. The fighter who executes the technique has a lot to do with it but the tools need to be there for the fighter to use.
iApna 2 years ago
@iApna
You make a valid point
FlashmanJW 1 year ago
what the fuck was that?
Kawagikikiu86 2 years ago
I love boxing, and I love Muay Thai, but in terms of importance, I'd say Boxing is the more important style between the two. I say this not because of any bais toward one art or the other, but going by the numbers fights are finished by punches far more often than kicks, knees, or elbows. IMHO, you're better off working your punches as much as possible in either form of fighting, but don't forget to work your legs enough no matter which route you take.
shaolinking5 2 years ago
Its best to probably learn how to box, as well as use your feet, use every part of your body as a weapon but yeah its good to incorperate more then one form of fighting
Mider999 2 years ago
please dun waste the time ...post the main fight please...waste my internet
kukubird92 2 years ago
Yeah, this is a pain waiting for the match to start. I tried to move it forward, but it gets stuck.
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
Gets stuck?
What do you mean?
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
I tried to get to the meat of the video where one buy versus the other guy and all you see is intro stuff. When I try to fast forward to the actual match, it hangs up and you can't do anything. I don't have the patience to wait for the match, I just ant to see the match, as is probably the case w/most people.
WingThaiJ 2 years ago
I already understood that.
I was just curious because it never happens to me, i think it has to do sth with your connection.
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
plus remember what bruce lee said about the fighter being able to adapt
Vangardthedrifter 2 years ago
looks like the boxer went for a kick at 8:50
treyx0 2 years ago
once again people speaking bollock it doesnt matter about the style it matters about the person, whats the point in having a nails thai boxer with a weak chin with a boxer who here closed the distance knew exactly what he was guna do!, regardless of style its the fighter that wins the fight!! exactly what bruce lee said styles limit people!
parareg85 2 years ago
clinch?push kick?leg kick? whats up this guy sucks
mobflip716 2 years ago
lol that guy doesnt focus..... Muay Thai kill boxers good because been there and there is no way for that boxing guy win against the real muay thai.. lol well 1995 - 2002 i used be muay thai for 7 years , 363 games in row... so the boxer that i fight i got him down in 2nd around and got that boxer guy broke his jaws with my elbow. lol well it long time ago and my neck got breakdown closed to paralyzed tho so i retired i was 24 well it good game tho
Aresipy 2 years ago
but thai boxer should be able to withstand body kick rite.. i juz dun understand..
kickboxer87 2 years ago
Thai boxer didn't know how to defend body shots. Got owned.
Hotora86 2 years ago
I don't understand. The guy is rushing the Swedish, and this last doesn't try a high kick or what.
Choi Yong could have been knocked out during the firsts seconds !!!!
Keketteparty 2 years ago
Does anyone knows the song of driton rama ?
Pls tell me!
gentiwalker 2 years ago
this look so fake man
redbull8x8 2 years ago
What looks fake?
HeadlessEye 2 years ago
Бохер агресивыный как танк
zzzulus 2 years ago
man those were light punches
darquinvindale 2 years ago
in my opinion boxing is absolutely necessary if you do MA. ive done a few martial arts and then boxed and boy did it improv my hand work and hand eye coordination.
however, boxers are not AT ALL prepared to deal with high kicks, knees, shins, and elbows from a solid Muay Thai fighter. i dont understand why not one leg went up from the muay thai dude.... but hey, thats why its all about the fighter and not the style. a style can only "lead" you in the right direction. props to WBA.
dima2244 2 years ago
well said
shazaam4747 2 years ago
a boxer wud never stand a chance againt a decent thai or kick boxer this guy sucked if sum1 ran at a real thai boxer like that they wud jus step to the side and pound a shin in ya face ye boi hw cn ppl even be tryin to compare boxing to real fightin sports boxings like very basic punch block move ye right
markah2007 2 years ago
This Muay Thai fighter is decent. hes a champion of his fucking country...Im not trying to diss muay thai its one of my two martial arts. But boxing has a much more stronger stance...Im looking into getting into boxing or muay thai but im looking at boxing a little more because its so much more of a stronger stance. The thing keeping me from joining is the fact that i have some world-champ tree stumps...A boxer that knows how to switch up his stance and throw kicks and can grapple is the way man
iitachifries 2 years ago
dude stfu. if you don't even know how to fight stop saying shit about stances
Itsyourmom123 2 years ago
Well your a fucking idiot for saying a champ is a mediocre fighter...Geez fuck youre arragent.
iitachifries 2 years ago
That wouldn't be boxing that would be MMA. And dude, boxing is weak, its stance leaves you vulnerable to takedowns and leg kicks,
WeGotTehPie 2 years ago
You didn't understand what I meant. I meant a strong stance as in You feel firm and secure.
iitachifries 2 years ago