@khalilrabee : If you want to contribute, than pick out an argument made by the scientists and "refute" then scientifically. Ideology does not the trick.
doesn't change the core of the message and the inner purpose of ISLAM in the life of man, woman, and child. Minus the later dogma and tradition added, the Quran is a poetic revelation that was received by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) via meditation and self reflection. Theres nothing new under the sun... Council of Nicea, Syrian-Aramaic interpretation, Hadiths, Babylonian influence, Ancient Egyptian symbolism... its all history coming to a head, repentance and guidance is the message. ALLAH IS GOD.
@mrlogicalman1 : The number of native english speaker may be around 400 millions. A large fraction is catholic, agnostic, jewish, muslim, or non-anglican. A minority, compared to 2-3 billions of christians. Add to that the fact that KJV is archaic in language its present day appeal is small. The impact irrelevant to christianity and in reference to Trinity even more irrelevant as KJV is a translation made 1600 years AC.
@mrlogicalman1 : Apart that you either refuse to see why KJV is irrelevant or really don't see the obvious, it offers others aspects. Since you brought up the fact that some part of KJV are not correct - how was this error detected ? The verse was different - but compared to which "standard" ?
germans mostly go by luther bible which predated kjv. they consider kjv full of errors and stuff added later by man. the quran is only talking about fighting the pagans who were killing the muslims 14000yrs ago it doesnt mean kill all ppl all through history . like xtians have done. inquisitions, witch burnings , criusades., templars ect ect
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: " they consider kjv full of errors and stuff added later by man. "
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Actually, Germans don't consider KJV at all. The reason I'm insisting is that many muslim bring KJV as an argument of how the bible supposedly was corrupted. In reality, the impact of KJV is close to nil for cultural reasons. Do you see my point ?
god is going to come to earth , go to bushes for tolilet , ect for who xtians . they have murdered, and forced countless ppl to join them , they burnt ppl as witches . wiped out millions and god is going to be human for them
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "xtians . they have murdered, and forced countless ppl to join them "
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Not really. Nowhere does the New Testament ask to figh or kill unbelievers - unlike the quran. A bad christian kills non-believers - a good muslims kills unbelievers.
jesus told you god is greater than he is. he cast out devils by finger of god. he doesnt know wen last day is. ect ect hes telling you hes not greater than god in power or wisdom directly . and you still ignore this.
god will question jesus . ask him did you tell ppl to pray to you and your mother . he will say i never said such thing. nor do xtians have jesus words saying it. xtians just go on guesswork and assumptions . when ther own bible says the opposite.
all gods prophets said god is one, even jesus said god is one, when questioned he dint say anything about god being 3persons. nor is it even in ur bibles. so going on delusions doesnt change fact. trinity was made up to get the greeks to join
xtians say jesus, god, ghost are 3 PERSONS, you dont think of ghost when u say jesus, and u dnt think of jesus , when you say almighty god. you say 3persons and then try to fool ppl that no its one. do you understand 3persons means 3 not one person.
proving to you the kjv is full of errors. proven direct from the original manuscrip . which shows so much is added later. like the trinity verse 1john 5;7 proven fake. and you think it doesnt matter
@mrlogicalman1 The Trinity is in the Torah as a prophecy of the coming Messiah: Isaiah 9:6 onto us a Son is given, he will be called Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor( which is the Holy Spirit), and that is the Trinity: Father/Creator, Son/God incarnate and Holy Spirit/Omnipresence equals ONE God.
The Bible remains the word of God because God continues to fulfill His promises to this day and no prophet came after the Messiah as only the Messiah is to return.
in africa alone there are 4000sects and 1000among the whites all claiming ther jesus following and ther bibles are true and all claim to have the holy ghost. now what kind of ghost wud be with all of them yet make them all go in seperate directions. at the most only one group can be right. so who told xtians to have so many versions, so many diffrent teachings. cos it wasnt god.
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "n africa alone there are 4000sects "
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...and many more in the US. However, a "church" in the protestant world is usually a community. You move to another state or city, then you are no longer in the same church/community. Simple.
why do you keep changing the subject . and you have no idea about arabic. denying simple facts doesnt change anything. nor am i talking about orthodox catholics. its obvious you have no idea what ur on about. i dint study religion for years just to waste my time
@mrlogicalman1 : I'm not changing subjected but trying to raise your awareness for some points. None of your arguments is original and muslims keep repeating them without thought. For example, you brought up the subject of King James as if it was relevant. Is it relevant ? Not really. But do you understand why ? That's why I ask the simple and obvious questions - why do CHINESE not read the King James Bible ? And if there are exceptions, what may the reason be ?
All religion is false... But the heritage... Yes Heritage, of the HEbrews is real... All it is, is a heritage that they turned into a religion... Why? and they claim that blacks are not nobody... But the word says different... They came against the true hebrews, not the jews in israel(rev 2:9) But the blacks that were enslaved by the arabs and the europeans that were captured and sold by the "africans" or "hamites"... and you can see dueteronomy 28... Who lines up with it?
you really have no idea what ur taking about do you. jesus is worshipped as god. a human who ate food. eat food you go to toilet. , no toilets 2000yrs ago so they went to the bushes.
@mrlogicalman1 I worship One God all my life and it was only after I studied the Bible did I understand that God came as Jesus Christ. Now I worship the Same God as I have always done, only I understand Him better. Now I understand why he went to the cross to prove his divinity in order to prove He is in all people and all people can become aware of His presence. The Trinity is One God the creator came into creation to reveal He is with all humankind to guide them
@mrlogicalman1 Going to the toilet occurs with every one of the billions of life forms on earth. God created that function and when that function fails, the person dies.
God is not ashamed of taking on a human form, even if that means, he went to the toilet and that he died as all life does that only He rose from the dead
God came into human form because he said he created us in his image and in his likeness, and he desires us to become aware how he is in us and all humankind
what kind of xtian are you. we all know of one god. trinityn is a ancient concept the xtians stole from the greek pioneers of christianity. beiievin god took on human form, went to bushes ,toilet ect
@mrlogicalman1 : What is Trinity ? You keep talking of Trinity but you simply don't make sense.Show me the christian text that explains that "Trinity" means a god that goes to toilet. Moreover, Trinity is not even a doctrine that defines christians...mostly catholics. The quran ( "allah") has imperfect knowledge of christianity :-)
Muhammad claimed the trinity was 2 gods and Mary as a god sura 5:116 which proves he was not guided by God nor Gabriel because the trinity was foretold of the messiah in Isaiah 9:6 as ONE GOD.
Since Islam began it has invaded nations and mass murdered millions of Christians and other non Muslims.
The Dome of the Rock which God calls the Abomination of Desolation has a warning for Christians. Thus it delights my soul that God has a warning for Muslims, those who defend Islam defend Satan
@januk Muslims only pretend to debate but their minds are closed to anything that contradicts Muhammad. They can't even question the Quran out of fear of being killed if they are called a hypocrite. If Muhammad said wage war with those whom the scriptures have been given (s9:29) then those who defend the scriptures can not be heard.
Muslims don't want to understand the Trinity is one God because if they do, they will see other lies in the quran which will endanger them of being killed
The quran describes the trinity as 2 gods and Mary as a god s5:116 which is untrue. Christians who know their scriptures, never worshiped 2 gods or Mary as a god, I believe in the Trinity and the Trinity is ONE God.
I will not go to hell for this belief enables me to understand God in a greater way. God offered believers to experience awareness of His Presence that is in all humankind, when people experience God, it removes them from hell on earth into heaven for God IS heaven
People watching should read Stuart Robinson's book 'Mosques and Miracles' which shows conclusively that much of the Koran was plagarised by known texts written hundreds of years earlier. Check out Stuart's book!
@januk36 The Trinity is One God who created Humankind to experience God.
God took on a human form to reveal His knowledge of human nature so that when people pray to God, they will know that God knows what it is like to experience human life.
Human social life is hard and joyless because people make it that way. God doesn't want people to bow down to Him, God wants people to experience God. Experiencing God would transform our world from a life of hell to a life of paradise for all.
@mrlogicalman1 The CONCEPT of the Trinity is in the Bible but the WORD Trinity is not in the Bible. That is how God outsmarts the evil doers. In sura 5:116 Muhammad claimed the trinity was 2 gods and Mary as a god and S5:116 EXISTS no where in any scriptures on earth except in the quran. Whereas the true concept of the Trinity is described in both the Torah as in Isaiah 9:6 and in the New Testament as in Matthew 28:18-20 to describe the One True God:
How can Muslims believe that the Quran is the word of God when Muhammad died with no Quran in his hand? Even Muslims have to admit that the Quran came into existence by Muhammad's successors when the Successors had no right to power.
For God told Abraham that God chose NOT Ishmael but Isaac as the successor of Abraham,
Genesis 17:19 which means Muhammad could never be a prophet of the God of Abraham.
Islam is not from God but uses God to wage war for domination, spoils and female slaves
@BonjourNuit120 1- who the fuck told u mohammad died with no qoran in his hand? HE had one u ignorant trash. 2- Where did god say that he chose isaac as a successor? If u say the bible, i like many others dont believe in that crap written by monks! 3- islam doesnt teach domination, it teaches us to follow one and only one god, read the opening chapter of the qoran.
ignorant fucks like u shouldnt speak before they understand the topic. If u want more proof that ur books r a scam let me know
@wildmanauh : Everyone, who is not blinded by religious dogmatism has no problem to perceive islam for what it is: A confused mixture or jewish, christian and pagan teachings, idolizing the arab culture and using it a tool to destroy the native cultures. Grow up and get civilized.
I know the quran teaches there is only one God, which was already known thousands of years before Islam came to be. Muslims think bowing down to a rock 5 times a day to praise Allah and his partner Muhammad, is praying or worshiping God when it is not.
Following the One True God, is applying his compassion and mercy towards all people which Islam fails to do as it is war against those who believe in one God who chose the Jews ONLY to be prophets never those who hate the Jews
Muhammad never had the quran in his hand when he died.Get your fact straight. It is even in the hadiths that one scribe remarked how is it they were to write the quran when Muhammad never did so or are you ignorant of the hadiths as well?
God said to Abraham that God chose Isaac over Ishmael to carry as Everlasting the covenant Genesis 17:19 and that passage is saying Isaac is Abraham's successor and that only descendants from Isaac could ever be prophets.
You say you don't believe in crap yet you believe in Islam. You don't like to hear the truth just as I hate to hear Islamic lies. The Bible remains the word of God without seeking your approval as it is God Himself who makes the Bible valid by fulfilling his prophesies in modern times. One prophecy is the death of Islam as Islam uses God to oppress and deceive its own followers. It is Islam that is so evil that it is the antichrist which is from Satan and Muslims do not know it
@BonjourNuit120 : You said: "The Bible remains the word of God "
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Please be careful. As someone used to metaphors I'm pretty much confident that we share a common understanding of what you mean. Just to make sure - you are neither a biblolatre nor someone who believes that every word in the bibel is the literal word of god. That's what muslims claim for the coran, a claim that makes "allah" look like an idiot. (Which she probably wasn't :-).
@januk36 you said it moron! the words in the bible are not the literal word of God!!! how can u read and believe a book that has the words of human beings! i know why, u r stupid! enough said
@wildmanauh : You said: "you said it moron! the words in the bible are not the literal word of God!!! "
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Good news, you can actually read. It's not christian doctrine that ever word of the bible is the word of god. On the other hand - errors in the bible are always human errors - errors in the quran are "allahs" error. Your "god" is not perfect.
@wildmanauh : Worst still, although you seem to believe only in one book you probably don't really understand what you are doing. Ever word of it is from Mohammed :-)
@BonjourNuit120 : You said: "Those promises are constantly being fulfilled by God which is why the Bible remains the word of God"
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You use the "Word" in a similar way like "Promise", which is legitimate. "I give you my word". However, this are the type of subtleties that are beyond understand for half-witted muhamedans.
@januk36 Your comments quiet obviously show how arrogant you are. All what u want me to believe is that u know everything about anything. u have no right for that. As for the hadith, if many muslims follow the hadith doesnt make it correct does it? These people are taught to believe since they were born that the hadiths are the true events in the life of our prophet. This does not make it true! If u r interested send me a private message and i can elaborate more.
@januk36 I was born to a sunni family. But once i started reading about religion, i rejected all the crap we had in the books of hadith and the false history books made by cheap scholars to please the kings of their times. I started delving into many religious readings, including judaism , christianity buddhism, hinduism etc... till i reached the truth in the shite teachings. Now, if u want to pretend to know anything abut shites pls list what u know. I am sure u know nothing the real thing.
@januk36 I was born to a sunni family. But once i started reading about religion, i rejected all the crap we had in the books of hadith and the false history books made by cheap scholars to please the kings of their times. I started delving into many religious readings, including judaism , christianity buddhism, hinduism etc... till i reached the truth in the shite teachings. Now, if u want to pretend to know anything abut shites pls list what u know. I am sure u know nothing the real thing.
@dolphmeist : A catholic doesn't convert to islam. A muslims doesn't convert to christianity. An atheist doesn't become religious. If such a step occurs then you never were what you claimed to be in the first place.
@dolphmeist The Catholic Church was once the Roman Empire that persecuted Christians, after this Church adopted Christianity, it maintained its oppressive ways and kept Jesus nailed to the cross. This church denied its parishioners to know God for themselves for God came as Jesus to teach that He is in us and that we can experience awareness of His Loving Presence the Holy Spirit. If Christians had done that, it would have been heaven on earth
Catholicism failed to teach that the Trinity is One God, the Creator who came into his creation to reteach he is in us to guide us out of our human made hell into Heaven on earth.
Instead the Catholic church formed a hierarchy and only called believers sinners.
That you left the church is one thing but that you joined Islam that prescribed war against all non Believers is equal for you to have joined Satan.
Of all the religions on earth, only Islam is the antichrist from Satan.
@januk36 Yes the Word of God entails Promise. God made promises in which only God fulfills. God promised to restore the world back to paradise.
Of all the religions on earth, only Islam uses God to do incredible evil. Islam stands on the side of Satan in which Muslims do not realize they have been deceived by Muhammad.
Satan represents lies about God added before God for God is not an oppressor who resorts to violence or bribes to obtain followers as depicted by the Quran
@januk36 Muslims were told they will first go to hell s19:71 but if they were good, they will be rescued from hell. Hell also represents human suffering on earth. They do not know they are already dead--to truth and in hell. They do not know Islam is from and for hell. Had Islam been like Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, no one would say anything but Islam is disguised as a faith when it is a totalitarian ideology of war using God to conquer nations and to oppress its own followers
@januk36 I am sorry that I am going on and on. But Islam desires to conquer the world which will increase the world suffering when the world already suffers. If Muslims questioned the Quran to see Islam is only defense of Muhammad who used God to dominate people.Then Muslims might have a chance to run from Islam as though it was a burning hell.
Islam spreads throughout the world using deception, God will step in to save our world from Islam and that is absolute as to what is happening
I am sure Allah wasn't a she but a he as Allah was a moon god in which traces of that fact remain as the emblem or moon crescent for Islam. Allah was 1 of 360 idols in the kaaba, a meteorite that broke apart, in which the smaller parts were considered Allah's daughter's Al Lat, Al Uzzo, and Manaf.
Muhammad wanted to be like Abraham, so Muhammad removed all the idols except Allah (and his 3 daughters) as he claimed that is what Abraham had done in
@wildmanauh Islam is only domination, as it kills those who leave the faith or are deemed to be a hypocrite. O prophet wage war against the infidels and hypocrites sura 66:9. Islam is a man made religion that uses God to do evil
The Quran is tossed together at random, there is no opening chapter
Islam is Muhammad and his moon god Allah in which Muhammad added satan before God when he prescribed war to the Muslim against people who didn't know Muhammad as Islam began with Muhammad
@BonjourNuit120 you like many others obviously only heard of mainstream islam. The islam lead by these ugly bearded monkeys who call themselves scholars like that dick ossama bin laden. This religion potrayed by them has nothing got to do with the real islam. The hadiths dont mean fuck to me or others who know what the truth is. There is a school for that issue, u need to learn about it b4 pretending that u know what hadith means. Go read.
@wildmanauh For years onto this day, I studied the Quran and Islam is not from God but uses God to do evil. Muhammad used God in his quest of power, domination, spoils and female slaves
I studied Jewish history to discover, they never did anything wrong but always they were hated and victimized.Muslims are taught to hate the Jews because Muhammad hated them and he hated them because they knew he was a false prophet so he robbed and killed them
Even today,Muslim nations are planning to attack Israel
God loves the Jews and God will destroy All the nations that come against Israel as Islam is the Antichrist, that is Islam is not from God but from Satan.
@wildmanauh Islam is not from God and Muhammad was never a prophet of the True God who refers to Himself as the God of Israel. You don't know what truth is and Islamic schools teach Lies
By the way,which country is the leading force, now?! Afganistan, Iran or maybe Iraq?Or any other muslim country?I don't think so.The correct answer is..America and Israel.People,it's time to wake up from the dream you're dreaming for a long time and look around you.Zionism is taking over the world,it's taking over control of your mind.They have covered your eyes with fake stories about muslim terrorists while they take leadership.Just think before you say something about muslims. Allahu Akbar!!!
@izetgudzevic Take your head out of the toilet. The greatest Zionist of all is God. Islam is trying to take control of the world, Islam is only war and the 17,000 terrorists attacks since 9/11 proves it. Islam covers your own eyes with the filth of lies, so learn honesty as it might save your soul from hell. .
First of all,i bet half of you didn't even read your book(Bible or Holy Qur'an)and you are posting comments so stupid that makes me sick!
I am a Muslim and i don't want to insult your other religion, but i must say this;dO NOT make me start about what is written in your Bible. For instance, who wrote your book? Second, Jesus (Isa a.s) fought, and there was a lot of blood,that's just sick!Third, Jesus drank so much wine so he passed out?!Please,read Holy Qur'an and inform yourself better! Idiots!
@mrlogicalman1 The Trinity is a term coined in 325 A.D by the Nicean Council but its significance was first recorded as a prophecy in the Torah, Isaiah 9:6 which foretold of the coming Messiah. "Onto us a Son is given, He will be called Mighty (Hero) God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor(Holy Spirit)"
For the Trinity is One God the Creator who came into creation as God incarnate known as Jesus, son of God to re-teach He is in All Humankind to guide us ( John 14-20)
To this guy miladmeah, u have done ur own translation and understanding of Sahih AlBukhari. notice if u don't know how to deal with this book don't bring examples from it. Because we care in this book about the chain of tellers, you have to mention them otherwise what u say below is not accepted
Also, again and again, what is the copy of quran he is referring to there were many attempts during the Isalm history a ppl like him tried to imped fake qurans in our religion, this copy should be authenticated before being studied
@shinningstar98 : You asked: "Also, again and again, what is the copy of quran he is "
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Did you watch the video ? The origin of the scripts is clearly stated. Country, Building and circumstances. Non of which involves Westerners in the first place.
@januk36 Ok genius i c u trying to show us that u know so much. this video clearly shows that the investigation is carried out in a biblical interpretation to religious books. We dont need german ignorants to tell us how we got the qoran. They dont know our language. Their research is all based on hypothesis, nothing more. It's all about 'maybe' 'what if' and all that crap. We know our religion MORE than u and them so stop pretending u know everything.
@wildmanauh : German Orientalist are simply the best. The funny thing is that they know more about your culture, language and history, which is obvioiusly pissing you.
@januk36 HEHEH funnyyyyy very very funnyyyyy, fuckin germans know more about my culture and history!!! how do u know that ignorant retard? Do u live with me? Do u know me?
@wildmanauh : You know your little world and what happened in your life and probably are quite proficient in your mother tongue. All of that does not qualify for scholarship - but then again, the standards are not very high in the islamic world..
@januk36 And again, how do u know that? do u know everyone in the islamic world? Do u follow all the scholars? Stop being stupid man, u have a lot to learn about. Up until u really read carefully history books, and till u know how to differentiate between truth and false, u have no right to claim what is right and wrong.
@januk36 HAHAHA, funny. Plain ignorant like your brethren faggots out there. You have nothing to say but fuck all. Go away kiddo, this is clearly not ur domain. you are just another fool pretending to know something, but u actually know more about swine shit than scriptures and religion. stay away.
@januk36 u like them because unsurprisingly they match ur thoughts. all what u guys are doing really is playing dirty because u have no trusted book. that's all.
@januk36 The scripts is not meaning where did this copy came from, it must be authenticated before published that's how we are muslims we don't publish unless it is authenticated from the writers and from the contents
@shinningstar98 : You said: "it must be authenticated before published that's how we are muslims we don't publish unless it is authenticated from the writers and from the contents"
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That's not how science works. According to your understanding there is no way that translationg egyptian texts is credible, leave alone deciphering it. Obviously you are wrong.
@januk36 u r not the one who tell me how science works, coz we are the one muslims who guided u civilization how to use the scientific ways. we doubt any info until it is carrier and contents are correct. otherwise tell me how can u ensure ur bible's integrity is right now?! which i know it got changed many times, and if u think about it logically quran says bible got changed and u say quran origin is christianity?!
also again : why he didn't say it in Arabic if he is right about what he says?!
@shinningstar98 : You said: " coz we are the one muslims who guided u civilization how to use the scientific ways"
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Not quite right. Science has its roots in Greek philosophy, which is European. Of course their were some contribution by other civilizations as well but islam is absolutely science. The clever "muslims" where all non-arab converts, still influenced by their original superior culture.
@januk36 wrong again search in wikipedia about arab scientist and u'll find plenty of them
also i didn't say arab i said muslims and it seems u r playing dirty game as u cannot differentiate between the arab and muslims neither between light and darkness
@januk36 What, who said that, i looks like i am arguing with someone doesn't understand what is Isalm, are u tilling me Uttman state was arab which ruled even arab and its religion is Islam?!! stop these nonsecnes
@januk36 Dear u r playing bad in this game u have to look to the Uttman state which was not speaking arabic but Turkish language. Arabic language is used only when they recite quran. U know something u are diverting too much from the main subject declair ur defeat
@shinningstar98 : You brought Uttman up. But since you are mentioning the Turks I like to remind you the first thing that Ata Türk did. To get rid of the imposed arabic culture. To purify the turkish language from arabic loan words. Ata Türk is testimony to the observation that islam is a form of political and cultural arabic imperialism.
@januk36 I was sure u'll mention this guy, coz u r picking only the bad spot in the picture but not the full picture. Then if u say he was wrong or right look to the result in the new generations. Again I am saying look to the Uttman State and I didn't say Turkey as country. look to the founder and his followers not the losers
@shinningstar98 : Whatever confused things your are stating - you are not refusing my claim that islam is a form of arabic imperialism at the expense of native cultures. And thief form of colonization continues to this day.
@januk36 Nope i am refusing ur idea, coz do u think in US now muslims created the colonization that u claimed?!! Islam target is only to believe in one God his name is Allah and worship him, that's all. coz this is the real and the heart message of Islam and also the coz of us being created. only to worship the creator
@shinningstar98 not to mention our khalifas or Caliphas as u call them they were the poineers in encourging the different science, I remember muslims how they were clever in wars specially during Salah Elddin and the Great Suliman, and Haroon Alrasheed..etc. how they beaten their enemies specially the ones who claimed they are serving the Western God who they don't know his name even
To this guy januk36 the last part of the video he said the following in Arabic "We've paired them with dark wide eyed maids", then he said if we changed the dots in arabic this would be the result"We will make you comfortable and white crystal clear grapes" !!! 2 questions:
- why he didn't say it in arabic?!!
- I tried what he said but it is not possible to get this meaning!! he his cheating
@januk36 What are talking about, you are invinting something not exist, I know my language better than u, there is nothing called classical language neither modern. it is the same I am arabic and I understand the quran better than u. there is no probably it is certain what he says in the video is not true otherwise why he didn't say it in Arabic
@januk36 ohh dear, it seems to be u don't know anything about arabs and arabic, we are not like u have a partial language... we learn from our childhood the correct arabic language and we can speak the quran langauage better than u think
@shinningstar98 : You see - classical arabic isn't enough to make sense of the text. Do you know the historical and cultural context during which those verses were written ? Hardly. A simple test is: Would you be able to spot the persian, greek, hebrew, syriac words in the quran ?
@januk36 Nope they are not! and I am sure about it, I would not accept any idea unless it is true, and has a prove what he says. he knows about language but he does't know the jewel of my lanaguage it is as u look to a car or testing the car there is a big difference. Dear what in the video is for sure not true 100% otherwise he should say it in Arabic not english
1st of all we all know the 40authors of the bible are UNKNOWN, the nt has been propven by xtian scholars as not by mathew,luke ect. thats ur evidence unknown authors. al-ilah is not allah. allah has no 3 daughters , so dont try fool ppl
the greekm pagan shit is in the christian teaching but not in the bible. proves they made up everything. and THE HADITH that you point out ALL SAY ALLAH IS THE REAL GOD and jesus is just a fake . even your own gospel of barnabus says jesus is a false god
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "the greekm pagan shit is in the christian teaching but not in the bible."
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What part of the bible ? What is the origin of the "gospel of barnabas" ? Why does pagan god allah pray to the real god in al-fatiha ? Why is the quran corrupt ?
Remember Muslimas, Sahih Bukhari Hadiths 8:74:257,1:4:148 & 6:60:318.
The Burqa (Quran 33:59) women have to wear in this 21st Cent is actually a 'shitting' (defecating) gown of Sawda (2nd wife)
Sawda a very good kind woman said Aisha was rejected by Muhammad (Bukhari 3:47:766) Umar bin Al-Khattab used to stalk her at night specially when she went to defecate
She complained to Muhammad, HE came up with Surah 33:59.
Allah is a bit dim, A SURAH ALWAYS after SOMETHING HAPPENED - WHY NEVER AT FIRST?
JUSTIFICATIONS of MUHAMMAD - Nameless (the-god) Al-lah's Quran words for Muslims
Poor Sawda went to 'shit' and this is how and why Quran 33:59 came about:-
Umar used to stalk (follow) Sawda especially when she went to defecate because she was rejected by Muhammad, one day she said to Muhammad "O Allah’s Apostle! I went out to answer the call of nature and 'Umar said to me so-and-so."Sahih Bukhari 6:60:318
Aisha said: So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling (Q 33:59) Sahih Bukhari 8:74:257&1:4:148
Quran 3:61"Come let us call our sons & your sons, our women & your women, ourselves & yourselves, then we pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who lie."
[Truth and lies cannot be determined in a tournament of cursing. Allah must be really stupid. Muslims attribute insanity to the Creator.]
Muslims call for Mubahalas because they have no real evidence to support their position. When confronted with facts there is no other way than to say, "Let’s curse one another and see who dies first!"
@miladmeah HAHAHA. my friend, listen.. I'm glad I became muslim before I met muslims. You too should know the difference between SO CALLED "muslims" and ISLAM.
I hope you will give the Quran more thought. Because I suspect you have intelligence, but you aren't using it when you say these things.
@karllegaladvice : You said: "learn the difference between ISLAM AND MUSLIMS."
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In fact I did. I grew up with muslims and they were all fine. Only after studying the scriptures of islam I realized what sick, perverted and unethical religions it is. But since you are a convert - tell me one value of relevance that isn't taught in other religions or philosophies as well. There is simply no market for islam but losers like you in search of a label to distinguish themselves from others....
@januk36 If you truly felt that you are right in what you believe about Islam, then you would feel no need to try to offend me by calling me a loser (a person whom you don't even know). If you were really trying to discuss this with an open mind then you would set the stage for a proper conversation. Which "scriptures" of Islam do you refer to? You will find what you chose in this life. It's according to your intention. Other religions don't teach that and how to govern that intention.
@januk36 Further more I am a revert,not a convert since we were all born muslim.A tree and a bird are also muslims. Let me tell you something.. being a muslim for show could be fun if it gave me lots of money and beautiful women, but that is not simply how god works.He will test you.If you are not seeking his guidance and his tests then you may still think you are free although you are deprived. I feel pretty well distinguished without any1 knowing my religion.
An all-knowing god does not need test as he already knows the result. After all its his creation. Therefore, whatever entity you worship needs testing is not divine.
@januk36 if u were offered to play a game of chess against the world champion- you would lose the game. But God is merciful, if u choose to play against him he still lets u make ur moves-even though he knows the outcome, he leaves the choices to you.
@karllegaladvice : You said: " if u choose to play against him he still lets u make ur moves-even though he knows the outcome, he leaves the choices to you."
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Highly blasphemous if you think that you can speak on his behalf.
@januk36 I can't speak on his behalf, you are right. Read the Quran yourself.
He says he already knows,right? So then ask yourself why does he test you? You can't win against God. He wants you to do right. You cannot outsmart him. He gave you choices. You make your moves. choose to pray,or don't. clean yrself or dont. eat healthy food or dont etc.
@karllegaladvice : You said: " How will you know if God is perfect if you don't follow his advice? "
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Since when does a god give advices ? You miss the point. If someone needs advice than because that person is clueless. In short - he is less than perfect.
@karllegaladvice : You said: "You have a choice to obey or disobey"
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Since nothing is supposed to go against "his" will, whatever choice is made is in accordance with his will. What is in accordance with his will cannot be wrong. There is no obeisance or disobeisance.
@januk36 How can you say you know he does not want you to believe? Where is your heart? It cannot be wrong to deny God? In the end,there is only his will. Does not mean he wills you to do wrong, imbecill.
give us a break man....dont u christians get tired. ur entire video is already refuted.
why do christians keep uploading refuted videos? dont u have any shame?
khalilrabee 4 hours ago
@khalilrabee : If you want to contribute, than pick out an argument made by the scientists and "refute" then scientifically. Ideology does not the trick.
januk36 4 hours ago
what is the title of the book?
86Deant 20 hours ago
@86Deant : If you want to delve into the topic:
The Hidden Origins of Islam: New Research into Its Early History by Karl-Heinz Ohlig and Gerd-R Puin
The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Koran by Christoph Luxenberg
januk36 4 hours ago
doesn't change the core of the message and the inner purpose of ISLAM in the life of man, woman, and child. Minus the later dogma and tradition added, the Quran is a poetic revelation that was received by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) via meditation and self reflection. Theres nothing new under the sun... Council of Nicea, Syrian-Aramaic interpretation, Hadiths, Babylonian influence, Ancient Egyptian symbolism... its all history coming to a head, repentance and guidance is the message. ALLAH IS GOD.
CDW757 1 day ago
why dont you coment on youtube sitea that kjv is not read . and well see if any1 corrects you
mrlogicalman1 2 days ago
most of america alone goes by kjv thats still hundreds of millions.
mrlogicalman1 2 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : The number of native english speaker may be around 400 millions. A large fraction is catholic, agnostic, jewish, muslim, or non-anglican. A minority, compared to 2-3 billions of christians. Add to that the fact that KJV is archaic in language its present day appeal is small. The impact irrelevant to christianity and in reference to Trinity even more irrelevant as KJV is a translation made 1600 years AC.
januk36 2 days ago
why dont you ask jimmy swaggert about kjv. ive realised you truly have no idea what ur saying
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : Who listens to jimmy swaggert in Germany ? Or in Italy ? Or in Russia ?
januk36 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You really don't understand why KJV has absolutely no impact ?
januk36 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : Apart that you either refuse to see why KJV is irrelevant or really don't see the obvious, it offers others aspects. Since you brought up the fact that some part of KJV are not correct - how was this error detected ? The verse was different - but compared to which "standard" ?
januk36 3 days ago
kjv is believed by hundreds of millions. wer do you get your info from
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : Hundreds of millions where ?
januk36 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : By the way - nobody believes in KJV. Or do you think that anybody believe in Yusuf Ali ?
januk36 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : KJV has never had any influence or impact in Germany....nor in many other countries....
januk36 3 days ago
germans mostly go by luther bible which predated kjv. they consider kjv full of errors and stuff added later by man. the quran is only talking about fighting the pagans who were killing the muslims 14000yrs ago it doesnt mean kill all ppl all through history . like xtians have done. inquisitions, witch burnings , criusades., templars ect ect
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: " they consider kjv full of errors and stuff added later by man. "
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Actually, Germans don't consider KJV at all. The reason I'm insisting is that many muslim bring KJV as an argument of how the bible supposedly was corrupted. In reality, the impact of KJV is close to nil for cultural reasons. Do you see my point ?
januk36 3 days ago
god is going to come to earth , go to bushes for tolilet , ect for who xtians . they have murdered, and forced countless ppl to join them , they burnt ppl as witches . wiped out millions and god is going to be human for them
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "xtians . they have murdered, and forced countless ppl to join them "
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Not really. Nowhere does the New Testament ask to figh or kill unbelievers - unlike the quran. A bad christian kills non-believers - a good muslims kills unbelievers.
januk36 3 days ago
jesus told you god is greater than he is. he cast out devils by finger of god. he doesnt know wen last day is. ect ect hes telling you hes not greater than god in power or wisdom directly . and you still ignore this.
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : I'm still waiting for an answer. Why do Germans not read the KJV ?
januk36 3 days ago
god will question jesus . ask him did you tell ppl to pray to you and your mother . he will say i never said such thing. nor do xtians have jesus words saying it. xtians just go on guesswork and assumptions . when ther own bible says the opposite.
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
all gods prophets said god is one, even jesus said god is one, when questioned he dint say anything about god being 3persons. nor is it even in ur bibles. so going on delusions doesnt change fact. trinity was made up to get the greeks to join
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
xtians say jesus, god, ghost are 3 PERSONS, you dont think of ghost when u say jesus, and u dnt think of jesus , when you say almighty god. you say 3persons and then try to fool ppl that no its one. do you understand 3persons means 3 not one person.
mrlogicalman1 3 days ago
If you'd ask on how to dispose off holy scriptures, you'd probably get few answers:
-burn them,
-put them in the middle of bricks
or - put them on an isolated places such as the attic..
johanizahri 3 days ago
watch?v=N5I_RdSuMwQ&feature=plcp&context=C3934e3cUDOEgsToPDskKdHdj9_GrCMd71LMProTIz
watch this! its is worth it! It proves Muslims wrong about who Jesus is.
Andy2542 4 days ago
Thank YOU Januk for this video, the hidden origin of islam, I hope you will make more videos.
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
Is there more to this documentary, where I can I see the rest?
Libbathegreat 4 days ago
proving to you the kjv is full of errors. proven direct from the original manuscrip . which shows so much is added later. like the trinity verse 1john 5;7 proven fake. and you think it doesnt matter
mrlogicalman1 4 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You still didn't answer my simple questions. Why do Germans not read the KJV ?
januk36 4 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 The Trinity is in the Torah as a prophecy of the coming Messiah: Isaiah 9:6 onto us a Son is given, he will be called Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor( which is the Holy Spirit), and that is the Trinity: Father/Creator, Son/God incarnate and Holy Spirit/Omnipresence equals ONE God.
The Bible remains the word of God because God continues to fulfill His promises to this day and no prophet came after the Messiah as only the Messiah is to return.
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
in africa alone there are 4000sects and 1000among the whites all claiming ther jesus following and ther bibles are true and all claim to have the holy ghost. now what kind of ghost wud be with all of them yet make them all go in seperate directions. at the most only one group can be right. so who told xtians to have so many versions, so many diffrent teachings. cos it wasnt god.
mrlogicalman1 4 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "n africa alone there are 4000sects "
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...and many more in the US. However, a "church" in the protestant world is usually a community. You move to another state or city, then you are no longer in the same church/community. Simple.
januk36 4 days ago
why do you keep changing the subject . and you have no idea about arabic. denying simple facts doesnt change anything. nor am i talking about orthodox catholics. its obvious you have no idea what ur on about. i dint study religion for years just to waste my time
mrlogicalman1 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : I'm not changing subjected but trying to raise your awareness for some points. None of your arguments is original and muslims keep repeating them without thought. For example, you brought up the subject of King James as if it was relevant. Is it relevant ? Not really. But do you understand why ? That's why I ask the simple and obvious questions - why do CHINESE not read the King James Bible ? And if there are exceptions, what may the reason be ?
januk36 5 days ago
interesting video and so much IRRELEVANT comments below; it is almost ...amusing!
ILOVEMFEO 5 days ago
@ILOVEMFEO : Religion IS amusing.
januk36 5 days ago
All religion is false... But the heritage... Yes Heritage, of the HEbrews is real... All it is, is a heritage that they turned into a religion... Why? and they claim that blacks are not nobody... But the word says different... They came against the true hebrews, not the jews in israel(rev 2:9) But the blacks that were enslaved by the arabs and the europeans that were captured and sold by the "africans" or "hamites"... and you can see dueteronomy 28... Who lines up with it?
tlrflyguy860 5 days ago
you get trinity from isaiah. name and he SHALL BE CALLED emmanueele , name one single person in jesus entire life emmanuelle
mrlogicalman1 5 days ago
The hidden origin of Islam was Muhammad's greed for domination, spoils and female slaves.
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
you really have no idea what ur taking about do you. jesus is worshipped as god. a human who ate food. eat food you go to toilet. , no toilets 2000yrs ago so they went to the bushes.
mrlogicalman1 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "jesus is worshipped as god".
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Ever heard the expression "god's children" ? I'm afraid to tell you that arabic is quite primitive in it non-metaphorical way.....
januk36 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 I worship One God all my life and it was only after I studied the Bible did I understand that God came as Jesus Christ. Now I worship the Same God as I have always done, only I understand Him better. Now I understand why he went to the cross to prove his divinity in order to prove He is in all people and all people can become aware of His presence. The Trinity is One God the creator came into creation to reveal He is with all humankind to guide them
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 Going to the toilet occurs with every one of the billions of life forms on earth. God created that function and when that function fails, the person dies.
God is not ashamed of taking on a human form, even if that means, he went to the toilet and that he died as all life does that only He rose from the dead
God came into human form because he said he created us in his image and in his likeness, and he desires us to become aware how he is in us and all humankind
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
theres hundreds of MILLIONS that READ KJV. so do you accept they are going hell.
mrlogicalman1 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "theres hundreds of MILLIONS that READ KJV. "
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Ahem. I'm checking your basic understanding. Why do russians not use KJV ? Why do South Americans not read KJV ? Give me the reason.....
januk36 5 days ago
what kind of xtian are you. we all know of one god. trinityn is a ancient concept the xtians stole from the greek pioneers of christianity. beiievin god took on human form, went to bushes ,toilet ect
mrlogicalman1 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : Where does the bible say that allah went to toilet ?
januk36 5 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : What is Trinity ? You keep talking of Trinity but you simply don't make sense.Show me the christian text that explains that "Trinity" means a god that goes to toilet. Moreover, Trinity is not even a doctrine that defines christians...mostly catholics. The quran ( "allah") has imperfect knowledge of christianity :-)
januk36 5 days ago
trinity is what is going to condemn you to forever burning in the pit
mrlogicalman1 6 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "trinity is what is going to condemn you to forever burning in the pit"
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Provided you believe in Trinity. Since I don't but you do implicitly, as you condemn it - what exactly is Trinity ?
januk36 6 days ago
Muhammad claimed the trinity was 2 gods and Mary as a god sura 5:116 which proves he was not guided by God nor Gabriel because the trinity was foretold of the messiah in Isaiah 9:6 as ONE GOD.
Since Islam began it has invaded nations and mass murdered millions of Christians and other non Muslims.
The Dome of the Rock which God calls the Abomination of Desolation has a warning for Christians. Thus it delights my soul that God has a warning for Muslims, those who defend Islam defend Satan
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 : It must be obvious to you that muslims don't understand the difference between triunite and three gods.
januk36 5 days ago
@januk Muslims only pretend to debate but their minds are closed to anything that contradicts Muhammad. They can't even question the Quran out of fear of being killed if they are called a hypocrite. If Muhammad said wage war with those whom the scriptures have been given (s9:29) then those who defend the scriptures can not be heard.
Muslims don't want to understand the Trinity is one God because if they do, they will see other lies in the quran which will endanger them of being killed
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
The quran describes the trinity as 2 gods and Mary as a god s5:116 which is untrue. Christians who know their scriptures, never worshiped 2 gods or Mary as a god, I believe in the Trinity and the Trinity is ONE God.
I will not go to hell for this belief enables me to understand God in a greater way. God offered believers to experience awareness of His Presence that is in all humankind, when people experience God, it removes them from hell on earth into heaven for God IS heaven
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
People watching should read Stuart Robinson's book 'Mosques and Miracles' which shows conclusively that much of the Koran was plagarised by known texts written hundreds of years earlier. Check out Stuart's book!
urebla 6 days ago
@urebla Thanks for the info concerning Stuart Robinson's book, 'Mosques and Miracles'
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
i repeat there is no trinity in the bible. this is from paganism
mrlogicalman1 6 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 : What is Trinity ?
januk36 6 days ago
@januk36 The Trinity is One God who created Humankind to experience God.
God took on a human form to reveal His knowledge of human nature so that when people pray to God, they will know that God knows what it is like to experience human life.
Human social life is hard and joyless because people make it that way. God doesn't want people to bow down to Him, God wants people to experience God. Experiencing God would transform our world from a life of hell to a life of paradise for all.
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@mrlogicalman1 The CONCEPT of the Trinity is in the Bible but the WORD Trinity is not in the Bible. That is how God outsmarts the evil doers. In sura 5:116 Muhammad claimed the trinity was 2 gods and Mary as a god and S5:116 EXISTS no where in any scriptures on earth except in the quran. Whereas the true concept of the Trinity is described in both the Torah as in Isaiah 9:6 and in the New Testament as in Matthew 28:18-20 to describe the One True God:
Only Islam began with a pagan
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
How can Muslims believe that the Quran is the word of God when Muhammad died with no Quran in his hand? Even Muslims have to admit that the Quran came into existence by Muhammad's successors when the Successors had no right to power.
For God told Abraham that God chose NOT Ishmael but Isaac as the successor of Abraham,
Genesis 17:19 which means Muhammad could never be a prophet of the God of Abraham.
Islam is not from God but uses God to wage war for domination, spoils and female slaves
BonjourNuit120 1 week ago
@BonjourNuit120 1- who the fuck told u mohammad died with no qoran in his hand? HE had one u ignorant trash. 2- Where did god say that he chose isaac as a successor? If u say the bible, i like many others dont believe in that crap written by monks! 3- islam doesnt teach domination, it teaches us to follow one and only one god, read the opening chapter of the qoran.
ignorant fucks like u shouldnt speak before they understand the topic. If u want more proof that ur books r a scam let me know
wildmanauh 1 week ago
@wildmanauh : Everyone, who is not blinded by religious dogmatism has no problem to perceive islam for what it is: A confused mixture or jewish, christian and pagan teachings, idolizing the arab culture and using it a tool to destroy the native cultures. Grow up and get civilized.
januk36 1 week ago
I know the quran teaches there is only one God, which was already known thousands of years before Islam came to be. Muslims think bowing down to a rock 5 times a day to praise Allah and his partner Muhammad, is praying or worshiping God when it is not.
Following the One True God, is applying his compassion and mercy towards all people which Islam fails to do as it is war against those who believe in one God who chose the Jews ONLY to be prophets never those who hate the Jews
BonjourNuit120 6 days ago
Muhammad never had the quran in his hand when he died.Get your fact straight. It is even in the hadiths that one scribe remarked how is it they were to write the quran when Muhammad never did so or are you ignorant of the hadiths as well?
God said to Abraham that God chose Isaac over Ishmael to carry as Everlasting the covenant Genesis 17:19 and that passage is saying Isaac is Abraham's successor and that only descendants from Isaac could ever be prophets.
BonjourNuit120 6 days ago
You say you don't believe in crap yet you believe in Islam. You don't like to hear the truth just as I hate to hear Islamic lies. The Bible remains the word of God without seeking your approval as it is God Himself who makes the Bible valid by fulfilling his prophesies in modern times. One prophecy is the death of Islam as Islam uses God to oppress and deceive its own followers. It is Islam that is so evil that it is the antichrist which is from Satan and Muslims do not know it
BonjourNuit120 6 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 : You said: "The Bible remains the word of God "
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Please be careful. As someone used to metaphors I'm pretty much confident that we share a common understanding of what you mean. Just to make sure - you are neither a biblolatre nor someone who believes that every word in the bibel is the literal word of god. That's what muslims claim for the coran, a claim that makes "allah" look like an idiot. (Which she probably wasn't :-).
januk36 6 days ago
@januk36 you said it moron! the words in the bible are not the literal word of God!!! how can u read and believe a book that has the words of human beings! i know why, u r stupid! enough said
wildmanauh 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : You said: "you said it moron! the words in the bible are not the literal word of God!!! "
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Good news, you can actually read. It's not christian doctrine that ever word of the bible is the word of god. On the other hand - errors in the bible are always human errors - errors in the quran are "allahs" error. Your "god" is not perfect.
januk36 5 days ago
@wildmanauh : You said: "how can u read and believe a book that has the words of human beings! i know why, u r stupid! enough said"
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Boy, seriously - what kind of eduction if any did you get ? I have read many man written books on science and found them extremly believable :-)
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In the words of brave Wafa Sultan: "The West is the people of many books".
januk36 5 days ago
@wildmanauh : Worst still, although you seem to believe only in one book you probably don't really understand what you are doing. Ever word of it is from Mohammed :-)
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 The Bible contains Jewish History as well as God's Promises for the world.
Those promises are constantly being fulfilled by God which is why the Bible remains the word of God.
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 : You said: "Those promises are constantly being fulfilled by God which is why the Bible remains the word of God"
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You use the "Word" in a similar way like "Promise", which is legitimate. "I give you my word". However, this are the type of subtleties that are beyond understand for half-witted muhamedans.
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 Your comments quiet obviously show how arrogant you are. All what u want me to believe is that u know everything about anything. u have no right for that. As for the hadith, if many muslims follow the hadith doesnt make it correct does it? These people are taught to believe since they were born that the hadiths are the true events in the life of our prophet. This does not make it true! If u r interested send me a private message and i can elaborate more.
wildmanauh 5 days ago
@wildmanauh : I never met a muslims that believes the quran to be the literal word of god AND rejects the hadiths at the same time. Are you Sunni ?
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 I was born to a sunni family. But once i started reading about religion, i rejected all the crap we had in the books of hadith and the false history books made by cheap scholars to please the kings of their times. I started delving into many religious readings, including judaism , christianity buddhism, hinduism etc... till i reached the truth in the shite teachings. Now, if u want to pretend to know anything abut shites pls list what u know. I am sure u know nothing the real thing.
wildmanauh 5 days ago
@januk36 I was born to a sunni family. But once i started reading about religion, i rejected all the crap we had in the books of hadith and the false history books made by cheap scholars to please the kings of their times. I started delving into many religious readings, including judaism , christianity buddhism, hinduism etc... till i reached the truth in the shite teachings. Now, if u want to pretend to know anything abut shites pls list what u know. I am sure u know nothing the real thing.
wildmanauh 5 days ago
@wildmanauh
I converted from Catholicism to Islam - the Sunni tradition. What led you to the Shi'a faith?
Just interested.
All the best.
dolphmeist 4 days ago
@dolphmeist : A catholic doesn't convert to islam. A muslims doesn't convert to christianity. An atheist doesn't become religious. If such a step occurs then you never were what you claimed to be in the first place.
januk36 4 days ago
@dolphmeist The Catholic Church was once the Roman Empire that persecuted Christians, after this Church adopted Christianity, it maintained its oppressive ways and kept Jesus nailed to the cross. This church denied its parishioners to know God for themselves for God came as Jesus to teach that He is in us and that we can experience awareness of His Loving Presence the Holy Spirit. If Christians had done that, it would have been heaven on earth
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
Catholicism failed to teach that the Trinity is One God, the Creator who came into his creation to reteach he is in us to guide us out of our human made hell into Heaven on earth.
Instead the Catholic church formed a hierarchy and only called believers sinners.
That you left the church is one thing but that you joined Islam that prescribed war against all non Believers is equal for you to have joined Satan.
Of all the religions on earth, only Islam is the antichrist from Satan.
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@januk36 Yes the Word of God entails Promise. God made promises in which only God fulfills. God promised to restore the world back to paradise.
Of all the religions on earth, only Islam uses God to do incredible evil. Islam stands on the side of Satan in which Muslims do not realize they have been deceived by Muhammad.
Satan represents lies about God added before God for God is not an oppressor who resorts to violence or bribes to obtain followers as depicted by the Quran
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@januk36 Muslims were told they will first go to hell s19:71 but if they were good, they will be rescued from hell. Hell also represents human suffering on earth. They do not know they are already dead--to truth and in hell. They do not know Islam is from and for hell. Had Islam been like Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, no one would say anything but Islam is disguised as a faith when it is a totalitarian ideology of war using God to conquer nations and to oppress its own followers
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@BonjourNuit120
watch?v=N5I_RdSuMwQ&feature=plcp&context=C3934e3cUDOEgsToPDskKdHdj9_GrCMd71LMProTIz
Andy2542 4 days ago
@Andy2542 : You are free to use the video-reply feature. Makes it easier to access your proposed videos.
januk36 4 days ago
@januk36 I am sorry that I am going on and on. But Islam desires to conquer the world which will increase the world suffering when the world already suffers. If Muslims questioned the Quran to see Islam is only defense of Muhammad who used God to dominate people.Then Muslims might have a chance to run from Islam as though it was a burning hell.
Islam spreads throughout the world using deception, God will step in to save our world from Islam and that is absolute as to what is happening
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
I am sure Allah wasn't a she but a he as Allah was a moon god in which traces of that fact remain as the emblem or moon crescent for Islam. Allah was 1 of 360 idols in the kaaba, a meteorite that broke apart, in which the smaller parts were considered Allah's daughter's Al Lat, Al Uzzo, and Manaf.
Muhammad wanted to be like Abraham, so Muhammad removed all the idols except Allah (and his 3 daughters) as he claimed that is what Abraham had done in
s 21:58 but an idol remains an idol
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@wildmanauh Islam is only domination, as it kills those who leave the faith or are deemed to be a hypocrite. O prophet wage war against the infidels and hypocrites sura 66:9. Islam is a man made religion that uses God to do evil
The Quran is tossed together at random, there is no opening chapter
Islam is Muhammad and his moon god Allah in which Muhammad added satan before God when he prescribed war to the Muslim against people who didn't know Muhammad as Islam began with Muhammad
BonjourNuit120 6 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 : You said: "The Quran is tossed together at random, there is no opening chapter"
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Have you ever read about quoting from the coran out of context ? How much more "out of context" is it possible than a randomly assembled chapters ?
januk36 6 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 you like many others obviously only heard of mainstream islam. The islam lead by these ugly bearded monkeys who call themselves scholars like that dick ossama bin laden. This religion potrayed by them has nothing got to do with the real islam. The hadiths dont mean fuck to me or others who know what the truth is. There is a school for that issue, u need to learn about it b4 pretending that u know what hadith means. Go read.
wildmanauh 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : You said: "The hadiths dont mean fuck to me or others who know what the truth is."
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Out of sincere interest - why is that ? I don't know many muslims that reject the hadiths. Mostly alevites.
januk36 5 days ago
@wildmanauh For years onto this day, I studied the Quran and Islam is not from God but uses God to do evil. Muhammad used God in his quest of power, domination, spoils and female slaves
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 r u jewish?
wildmanauh 5 days ago
I studied Jewish history to discover, they never did anything wrong but always they were hated and victimized.Muslims are taught to hate the Jews because Muhammad hated them and he hated them because they knew he was a false prophet so he robbed and killed them
Even today,Muslim nations are planning to attack Israel
God loves the Jews and God will destroy All the nations that come against Israel as Islam is the Antichrist, that is Islam is not from God but from Satan.
I am not a Jew
BonjourNuit120 4 days ago
@BonjourNuit120 Israel???????????
13ashik 4 days ago
@wildmanauh Islam is not from God and Muhammad was never a prophet of the True God who refers to Himself as the God of Israel. You don't know what truth is and Islamic schools teach Lies
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
@wildmanauh Take your own advice and read the Quran, see its contradictions,
its hatred, it bribes, it insane claims. In fact Islam is so evil, that it is God who will destroy it.
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
By the way,which country is the leading force, now?! Afganistan, Iran or maybe Iraq?Or any other muslim country?I don't think so.The correct answer is..America and Israel.People,it's time to wake up from the dream you're dreaming for a long time and look around you.Zionism is taking over the world,it's taking over control of your mind.They have covered your eyes with fake stories about muslim terrorists while they take leadership.Just think before you say something about muslims. Allahu Akbar!!!
izetgudzevic 1 week ago
@izetgudzevic : You said: ",it's time to wake up from the dream you're dreaming for a long time and look around you"
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That's a good advice to your fellow muslims. Wishful thinking doesn't impress anybody.
januk36 1 week ago
@izetgudzevic Take your head out of the toilet. The greatest Zionist of all is God. Islam is trying to take control of the world, Islam is only war and the 17,000 terrorists attacks since 9/11 proves it. Islam covers your own eyes with the filth of lies, so learn honesty as it might save your soul from hell. .
BonjourNuit120 5 days ago
First of all,i bet half of you didn't even read your book(Bible or Holy Qur'an)and you are posting comments so stupid that makes me sick!
I am a Muslim and i don't want to insult your other religion, but i must say this;dO NOT make me start about what is written in your Bible. For instance, who wrote your book? Second, Jesus (Isa a.s) fought, and there was a lot of blood,that's just sick!Third, Jesus drank so much wine so he passed out?!Please,read Holy Qur'an and inform yourself better! Idiots!
izetgudzevic 1 week ago
heres an easy one theres no TRINITY in the bible this pagan concept is taught in the church why
mrlogicalman1 1 week ago
@mrlogicalman1 : What is TRINITY ?
januk36 1 week ago
@mrlogicalman1 The Trinity is a term coined in 325 A.D by the Nicean Council but its significance was first recorded as a prophecy in the Torah, Isaiah 9:6 which foretold of the coming Messiah. "Onto us a Son is given, He will be called Mighty (Hero) God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor(Holy Spirit)"
For the Trinity is One God the Creator who came into creation as God incarnate known as Jesus, son of God to re-teach He is in All Humankind to guide us ( John 14-20)
BonjourNuit120 1 week ago
To this guy miladmeah, u have done ur own translation and understanding of Sahih AlBukhari. notice if u don't know how to deal with this book don't bring examples from it. Because we care in this book about the chain of tellers, you have to mention them otherwise what u say below is not accepted
shinningstar98 1 week ago
Also, again and again, what is the copy of quran he is referring to there were many attempts during the Isalm history a ppl like him tried to imped fake qurans in our religion, this copy should be authenticated before being studied
shinningstar98 1 week ago
@shinningstar98 : You asked: "Also, again and again, what is the copy of quran he is "
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Did you watch the video ? The origin of the scripts is clearly stated. Country, Building and circumstances. Non of which involves Westerners in the first place.
januk36 1 week ago
@januk36 Ok genius i c u trying to show us that u know so much. this video clearly shows that the investigation is carried out in a biblical interpretation to religious books. We dont need german ignorants to tell us how we got the qoran. They dont know our language. Their research is all based on hypothesis, nothing more. It's all about 'maybe' 'what if' and all that crap. We know our religion MORE than u and them so stop pretending u know everything.
wildmanauh 1 week ago
@wildmanauh : German Orientalist are simply the best. The funny thing is that they know more about your culture, language and history, which is obvioiusly pissing you.
januk36 1 week ago
@januk36 HEHEH funnyyyyy very very funnyyyyy, fuckin germans know more about my culture and history!!! how do u know that ignorant retard? Do u live with me? Do u know me?
wildmanauh 1 week ago
@wildmanauh : You know your little world and what happened in your life and probably are quite proficient in your mother tongue. All of that does not qualify for scholarship - but then again, the standards are not very high in the islamic world..
januk36 1 week ago
@januk36 And again, how do u know that? do u know everyone in the islamic world? Do u follow all the scholars? Stop being stupid man, u have a lot to learn about. Up until u really read carefully history books, and till u know how to differentiate between truth and false, u have no right to claim what is right and wrong.
wildmanauh 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : Nobody has the right to claim what is wrong or right. It's all based on facts. Clearly all scriptures are fairy tales.
januk36 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : Do you know everyone in the islamic word ? Do you follow all the scholars ?
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Most importantly - which schools of thaught prove to be the most successful ? Science, which is based on pagan philosophy. Didn't you know....?
januk36 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : You said: "fuckin germans know more about my culture"
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What culture ? Shoarma ? Beans ? A culture that didn't accept printing press for centuries ?
januk36 6 days ago
@januk36 HAHAHA, funny. Plain ignorant like your brethren faggots out there. You have nothing to say but fuck all. Go away kiddo, this is clearly not ur domain. you are just another fool pretending to know something, but u actually know more about swine shit than scriptures and religion. stay away.
wildmanauh 6 days ago
@wildmanauh : Yawn.
januk36 6 days ago
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@januk36 u like them because unsurprisingly they match ur thoughts. all what u guys are doing really is playing dirty because u have no trusted book. that's all.
wildmanauh 1 week ago
@januk36 The scripts is not meaning where did this copy came from, it must be authenticated before published that's how we are muslims we don't publish unless it is authenticated from the writers and from the contents
shinningstar98 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You said: "it must be authenticated before published that's how we are muslims we don't publish unless it is authenticated from the writers and from the contents"
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That's not how science works. According to your understanding there is no way that translationg egyptian texts is credible, leave alone deciphering it. Obviously you are wrong.
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 u r not the one who tell me how science works, coz we are the one muslims who guided u civilization how to use the scientific ways. we doubt any info until it is carrier and contents are correct. otherwise tell me how can u ensure ur bible's integrity is right now?! which i know it got changed many times, and if u think about it logically quran says bible got changed and u say quran origin is christianity?!
also again : why he didn't say it in Arabic if he is right about what he says?!
shinningstar98 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You said: " coz we are the one muslims who guided u civilization how to use the scientific ways"
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Not quite right. Science has its roots in Greek philosophy, which is European. Of course their were some contribution by other civilizations as well but islam is absolutely science. The clever "muslims" where all non-arab converts, still influenced by their original superior culture.
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 wrong again search in wikipedia about arab scientist and u'll find plenty of them
also i didn't say arab i said muslims and it seems u r playing dirty game as u cannot differentiate between the arab and muslims neither between light and darkness
shinningstar98 4 days ago
@shinningstar98 : Islam is arabic. Muslims are all arabized.
januk36 4 days ago
@januk36 What, who said that, i looks like i am arguing with someone doesn't understand what is Isalm, are u tilling me Uttman state was arab which ruled even arab and its religion is Islam?!! stop these nonsecnes
shinningstar98 4 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You mentioned Uttman, not me. Being muslim is being arabized. Not all to the same degree but gradually and ever more over time.
januk36 4 days ago
@januk36 Dear u r playing bad in this game u have to look to the Uttman state which was not speaking arabic but Turkish language. Arabic language is used only when they recite quran. U know something u are diverting too much from the main subject declair ur defeat
shinningstar98 3 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You brought Uttman up. But since you are mentioning the Turks I like to remind you the first thing that Ata Türk did. To get rid of the imposed arabic culture. To purify the turkish language from arabic loan words. Ata Türk is testimony to the observation that islam is a form of political and cultural arabic imperialism.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 I was sure u'll mention this guy, coz u r picking only the bad spot in the picture but not the full picture. Then if u say he was wrong or right look to the result in the new generations. Again I am saying look to the Uttman State and I didn't say Turkey as country. look to the founder and his followers not the losers
shinningstar98 3 days ago
@shinningstar98 : Whatever confused things your are stating - you are not refusing my claim that islam is a form of arabic imperialism at the expense of native cultures. And thief form of colonization continues to this day.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 Nope i am refusing ur idea, coz do u think in US now muslims created the colonization that u claimed?!! Islam target is only to believe in one God his name is Allah and worship him, that's all. coz this is the real and the heart message of Islam and also the coz of us being created. only to worship the creator
shinningstar98 2 days ago
@shinningstar98 not to mention our khalifas or Caliphas as u call them they were the poineers in encourging the different science, I remember muslims how they were clever in wars specially during Salah Elddin and the Great Suliman, and Haroon Alrasheed..etc. how they beaten their enemies specially the ones who claimed they are serving the Western God who they don't know his name even
shinningstar98 4 days ago
To this guy januk36 the last part of the video he said the following in Arabic "We've paired them with dark wide eyed maids", then he said if we changed the dots in arabic this would be the result"We will make you comfortable and white crystal clear grapes" !!! 2 questions:
- why he didn't say it in arabic?!!
- I tried what he said but it is not possible to get this meaning!! he his cheating
shinningstar98 1 week ago
@shinningstar98 : You said: "I tried what he said but it is not possible to get this meaning!! he his cheating"
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You probably don't master the classical languages, including arabic.
januk36 1 week ago
@januk36 What are talking about, you are invinting something not exist, I know my language better than u, there is nothing called classical language neither modern. it is the same I am arabic and I understand the quran better than u. there is no probably it is certain what he says in the video is not true otherwise why he didn't say it in Arabic
shinningstar98 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : Is the arabic spoken in the streets of marakesh the same as in the quran ?
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 ohh dear, it seems to be u don't know anything about arabs and arabic, we are not like u have a partial language... we learn from our childhood the correct arabic language and we can speak the quran langauage better than u think
shinningstar98 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You see - classical arabic isn't enough to make sense of the text. Do you know the historical and cultural context during which those verses were written ? Hardly. A simple test is: Would you be able to spot the persian, greek, hebrew, syriac words in the quran ?
januk36 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You said: " I know my language better than u,"
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That was never the argument. The point is that those german scholar know more about your language and its historical context than u.
januk36 5 days ago
@januk36 Nope they are not! and I am sure about it, I would not accept any idea unless it is true, and has a prove what he says. he knows about language but he does't know the jewel of my lanaguage it is as u look to a car or testing the car there is a big difference. Dear what in the video is for sure not true 100% otherwise he should say it in Arabic not english
shinningstar98 5 days ago
@shinningstar98 : You said: "I would not accept any idea unless it is true,"
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Why do you accept religion if there is no objective truth in it - well, mostly.
januk36 5 days ago
1st of all we all know the 40authors of the bible are UNKNOWN, the nt has been propven by xtian scholars as not by mathew,luke ect. thats ur evidence unknown authors. al-ilah is not allah. allah has no 3 daughters , so dont try fool ppl
mrlogicalman1 1 week ago
the greekm pagan shit is in the christian teaching but not in the bible. proves they made up everything. and THE HADITH that you point out ALL SAY ALLAH IS THE REAL GOD and jesus is just a fake . even your own gospel of barnabus says jesus is a false god
mrlogicalman1 1 week ago
@mrlogicalman1 : You said: "the greekm pagan shit is in the christian teaching but not in the bible."
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What part of the bible ? What is the origin of the "gospel of barnabas" ? Why does pagan god allah pray to the real god in al-fatiha ? Why is the quran corrupt ?
januk36 1 week ago
Remember Muslimas, Sahih Bukhari Hadiths 8:74:257,1:4:148 & 6:60:318.
The Burqa (Quran 33:59) women have to wear in this 21st Cent is actually a 'shitting' (defecating) gown of Sawda (2nd wife)
Sawda a very good kind woman said Aisha was rejected by Muhammad (Bukhari 3:47:766) Umar bin Al-Khattab used to stalk her at night specially when she went to defecate
She complained to Muhammad, HE came up with Surah 33:59.
Allah is a bit dim, A SURAH ALWAYS after SOMETHING HAPPENED - WHY NEVER AT FIRST?
miladmeah 1 week ago
JUSTIFICATIONS of MUHAMMAD - Nameless (the-god) Al-lah's Quran words for Muslims
Poor Sawda went to 'shit' and this is how and why Quran 33:59 came about:-
Umar used to stalk (follow) Sawda especially when she went to defecate because she was rejected by Muhammad, one day she said to Muhammad "O Allah’s Apostle! I went out to answer the call of nature and 'Umar said to me so-and-so."Sahih Bukhari 6:60:318
Aisha said: So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling (Q 33:59) Sahih Bukhari 8:74:257&1:4:148
miladmeah 1 week ago
Quran 3:61"Come let us call our sons & your sons, our women & your women, ourselves & yourselves, then we pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who lie."
[Truth and lies cannot be determined in a tournament of cursing. Allah must be really stupid. Muslims attribute insanity to the Creator.]
Muslims call for Mubahalas because they have no real evidence to support their position. When confronted with facts there is no other way than to say, "Let’s curse one another and see who dies first!"
miladmeah 1 week ago
@miladmeah HAHAHA. my friend, listen.. I'm glad I became muslim before I met muslims. You too should know the difference between SO CALLED "muslims" and ISLAM.
I hope you will give the Quran more thought. Because I suspect you have intelligence, but you aren't using it when you say these things.
karllegaladvice 1 week ago
@karllegaladvice : You said: "learn the difference between ISLAM AND MUSLIMS."
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In fact I did. I grew up with muslims and they were all fine. Only after studying the scriptures of islam I realized what sick, perverted and unethical religions it is. But since you are a convert - tell me one value of relevance that isn't taught in other religions or philosophies as well. There is simply no market for islam but losers like you in search of a label to distinguish themselves from others....
januk36 1 week ago
@januk36 If you truly felt that you are right in what you believe about Islam, then you would feel no need to try to offend me by calling me a loser (a person whom you don't even know). If you were really trying to discuss this with an open mind then you would set the stage for a proper conversation. Which "scriptures" of Islam do you refer to? You will find what you chose in this life. It's according to your intention. Other religions don't teach that and how to govern that intention.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@januk36 Further more I am a revert,not a convert since we were all born muslim.A tree and a bird are also muslims. Let me tell you something.. being a muslim for show could be fun if it gave me lots of money and beautiful women, but that is not simply how god works.He will test you.If you are not seeking his guidance and his tests then you may still think you are free although you are deprived. I feel pretty well distinguished without any1 knowing my religion.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : You said: "He will test you."
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An all-knowing god does not need test as he already knows the result. After all its his creation. Therefore, whatever entity you worship needs testing is not divine.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 if u were offered to play a game of chess against the world champion- you would lose the game. But God is merciful, if u choose to play against him he still lets u make ur moves-even though he knows the outcome, he leaves the choices to you.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : You said: " if u choose to play against him he still lets u make ur moves-even though he knows the outcome, he leaves the choices to you."
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Highly blasphemous if you think that you can speak on his behalf.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 I can't speak on his behalf, you are right. Read the Quran yourself.
He says he already knows,right? So then ask yourself why does he test you? You can't win against God. He wants you to do right. You cannot outsmart him. He gave you choices. You make your moves. choose to pray,or don't. clean yrself or dont. eat healthy food or dont etc.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : Ok. We agreed that no human can speak on behalf of whatever god is.
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As I said before - testing is pointless if you know the result. A perfect god does a perfect job.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 How will you know if God is perfect if you don't follow his advice? How do you know it isn't perfect advice if you don't use it.
God made you special,different from his other creation. You have a choice to obey or disobey.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : You said: " How will you know if God is perfect if you don't follow his advice? "
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Since when does a god give advices ? You miss the point. If someone needs advice than because that person is clueless. In short - he is less than perfect.
januk36 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : You said: "You have a choice to obey or disobey"
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Since nothing is supposed to go against "his" will, whatever choice is made is in accordance with his will. What is in accordance with his will cannot be wrong. There is no obeisance or disobeisance.
januk36 3 days ago
@januk36 How can you say you know he does not want you to believe? Where is your heart? It cannot be wrong to deny God? In the end,there is only his will. Does not mean he wills you to do wrong, imbecill.
karllegaladvice 3 days ago
@karllegaladvice : The only thing that is from god - if he exists - are the laws of nature.
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What you follow is the concoction of some semites. Probably Mohammed in your case.
januk36 3 days ago