@WaywardBrigand You can learn to do it too. Onaga sensei's teacher was Higa Yuchoku sensei, who's tsuki was legendary. The approach to striking that they use is superior to what I had studied for the duration of my training, and to anyone else's method I have seen. So I have switched. Anyone living in Japan can find the clips at "Makumon" home improvement store. Good luck finding them in the states.
@cececooler Do you mean to punch a circular hole through a suspended piece of paper? I don't know of anyone who could do that. Sometimes when we practice this, we tear a hole in the paper, but it is usually "V" shaped. The best breaks are along the bottom 1/3 of the paper, straight across and fully ripped (sometimes, the broken piece hangs from one side).
you can tell this makiwara is well used just by looking at the top of the post and the black spot on the wall shes probly practiced this strike thousands of times
@thkun33 Have a look in the video description page. There's a link to a translated version. Just turn on the closed captioning in your video window (I think lower right corner of the video).
in short her father basically says. "even though she is small she is strong enough to 'not lose' to a bigger person. He makes the distinction between winning and not losing clear saying 'not losing' is what it's all about, not killing nor winning.
Sorry, my way of writing, only use the language translator. I mean it was interesting makiwara exercise, and inviting them to visit my channel greetings
@TYYUBE You are in luck! If you view my description for the video, you will see a link to anikinippon's copy of this. He was kind enough to translate it. You will have to turn on the closed captioning so you can see what he has written. Enjoy!
Para meu futuro estudante Lua, espero que ele possa ver a filosofia do trenamento Marcial, Logo poder treinar o corpo de tal forma que ele possa pasar para a parte espiritual....lembre-se que sem sacrificio, nada é conquistado.bom trenamentos
I was replying to MarkShotokai response about the makiwara not being used to have a strong punch.
I lived and trained in Okinawa for 6 years, and still travel to Okinawa every chance I get. The makiwara is used to teach proper striking techniqe, to strngthen the wrist, to ensure proper alignment, develop striking power, and condition and strengthen the bones.
I have been using the makiwara for 17 years of my adult life.
Do not confuse shotokan and okinawan karate training methods
I'd have to agree with you. It's become an indispensable tool, IMO. I use it differently than when back in the U.S, which was just for conditioning. When you add tenchin it really helps with proprioception too.
Egami's essay was interesting; I like iconoclasm. But I disagree with him. Would like to see the new tsuki he developed. Essay would be a good topic for discussion on some forums.
yes. karate makiwara training has reason why we as karate practitioners train our hands and wrist on makiwaras in order to strengthen and condition our hands and wrist. it sure hurts when it starts bleeding and continues striking the makiwara. it has a good benefits of course. in you dont train in makiwara theres a risk of breaking your hand or wrist when you strike a target with devastating force.
what reason is that? why would you want to feel pain if you're in a fight for your life? maybe if you're a musician or artist and need very high manual dexterity but not if you're a martial artist...
I think she is pretty and incredible... :) nice post! BTW: I didn't see any subtitles on the video response version
When you watch the response vid, click on the closed captioned icon in the lower right hand corner and see if it still doesn't work.
As far as pain goes - I still have feelings in the nerves on my knuckles. I dunno, maybe I'm just a pain freak. But I used to enjoy the after-effects of kotekitai. I only backed off from that kind of training when I started getting damage to the tendons in my elbows. (and now I prefer muchimi to bashing :-)
Our machiwara are crafted to try and approximate the tensile strength of human ribs. If you can hit the fishing sinker behind the post, you have a chance at cracking ribs. I likewise, do not anticipate fighting anyone in wooden armor.
As for the risk, what can I say? Most physical activity involves risk. Every individual needs to decide how far they want to go. Cheers!
makiwara training doesnt kill any nerves it just makes them stronger. i have been hitting the makiwara for some years now and i can still fill things with my knuckles, the difference now is that when i punch it doesnt hurt anymore but i can feel.
By the way, what is the purpose of the string with the metal ball behind the makiwara? Is it a way to know if one is using the makiwara right or is it meant to develop reaction to someone's counter attack? or something else maybe?
The fishing sinker hung behind the board is adjustable. It is just for measuring depth. The deeper you can move it, the more damage you can do to a chest cavity, for instance.
Incidentally, if you'd like to view a translated version of the program, see the video response left by aniki-nippon. He did a great job.
Gosh, this is really cool (even though I dont understand anything they are saying). I study Shorei Kempo and have recently began to use a Makiwara so I'm looking around for techniques to better my training. Thanks for the vid!
i studie matsubayashi shorin ryu. under rick moore and i see that the hips. is the key for makiwara and not so much the hand? but great video tell her DOMO Arigato
I agree with you that hips are critical. The makiwara definitely helps develop proper use of the hips for striking power. If you're saying that there are a lot more dimensions to makiwara training than just conditioning knuckles, then I agree with that too. The "video response" is worth a look if you haven't checked it out yet.
ive been training for 4 years makiwara since got my 1st dan. that's crazy, my hands went hard. try to strike a makiwara like a real karateka and u'll brake them. fucking love karate.
The dojo is in Asato district in Naha. Strangely (well, rather predictably), Nichols' NHK crew used footage of him walking around some of the most beautiful neighborhoods of Shuri on his way to the dojo. Makes for nice scenery though.
When you say, "are they all this fast?", I assume you're talking about the other members of the Shinjinbukan? I don't know. I don't think I'm as fast as Michiko, but I can tsuki fast enough to break paper and machiwara is one of my favorite things. I would say it is one of Onaga sensei's specialties.
Oh there was a mistipping . I meant brutalizing a woman can NOT be the right way. With brutalizing I meant this not so subtle difference between we men and women.They are getting too rough and turning men alike due to all kinds of activities and sports. it is clear to see that too often they do not know what to do with their off springs. well from here on we cross into a more complex view of why our world is turning to what it is. I particularly do not agree with women fighting !!!!
This is a video about the use of machiwara as a tool for improving your martial arts. The fact that Michiko is so small is meant as a testimony to it's effectiveness, or at least an illustration of how we practice it.
I'm baffled that you would want to engage in a debate here about a woman's right to participate in martial arts. At least you think women are capable (I'm relieved). I just don't know why you let men "off the hook" so easily. Good luck with your crusade.
she is pretty fast ! However , and I will be alone on this one, I feel that this is not meant for girls ! All that´s corse takes the gentleness ... even worst make them less intuitive and sensitive . Brutalising a woman can be the right way. We Men are so enough...reason why we need one another , so that the two halves makes an unit. Each one contribuiting with the part the other lacks. Just a thought ! No point on going mad on me . Oss
Brutalizing a woman can be the right way?? Are you serious? Brutalizing anyone is the WRONG way. It is exactly why women and smaller people in general should train martial arts.
I think people will understand you better if you comment in your native language. Then we can try to use translation programs. Maybe what you mean to say is not what is written.
my japanese is far from perfect but from what I can make out they're talking a lot about the idea that Ti isn't meant to be used as a tool for killing. It is meant to make one strong, it's not for winning but it will keep you from losing but above all else it is not to be used to kill
Ah, in some parts of the program, Nichol uses English, but it is a typical Japanese tourism program. Karate was a tagline to draw interest in Okinawa. My Japanese is improving but there are huge gaps in my understanding. So, much of the program is quite boring.
Breaking hanging paper is a great way to develop speed. No tricks there, just lot's of reps and correct technique. Note; phone books in the states use a thicker paper grade. It doesn't usually rip straight across - much more difficult.
I was impressed until I saw the paper rip.
Then I crapped my pants (metaphorically). Holy hell that is a good punch.
WaywardBrigand 3 weeks ago
@WaywardBrigand You can learn to do it too. Onaga sensei's teacher was Higa Yuchoku sensei, who's tsuki was legendary. The approach to striking that they use is superior to what I had studied for the duration of my training, and to anyone else's method I have seen. So I have switched. Anyone living in Japan can find the clips at "Makumon" home improvement store. Good luck finding them in the states.
Jakneife 3 weeks ago
What's that straw thing in her other hand?
Yamtendo 3 months ago
@Yamtendo Good question. It's for gripping exercises. One use is to practice squeezing your fist more tightly at the point of impact when you strike.
Jakneife 3 months ago
@Yamtendo thats is someting that strenghten your grip and punch.. there is also a weapon that works almost that way.. search for vajra.
caioasump 1 month ago
THIS IS SO LEGIT. Thank you for sharing this!! <--- two exclamation marks
Yamtendo 3 months ago
she tear the paper
i want to see video where a person actually punch a paper and make a hole
can any1 help me to find the video?
cececooler 4 months ago
@cececooler Do you mean to punch a circular hole through a suspended piece of paper? I don't know of anyone who could do that. Sometimes when we practice this, we tear a hole in the paper, but it is usually "V" shaped. The best breaks are along the bottom 1/3 of the paper, straight across and fully ripped (sometimes, the broken piece hangs from one side).
Jakneife 4 months ago
@Jakneife okay thank you very much for the info :D
cececooler 4 months ago
you can tell this makiwara is well used just by looking at the top of the post and the black spot on the wall shes probly practiced this strike thousands of times
l3054 4 months ago
that girl looks lethal man :|
dudemaster21 7 months ago
break her heart and she breaks you
Bluerocka145 7 months ago
she would kick my ass LOL
AkiraKunXP 8 months ago
The best Kimé!.
...her is the beast..i do not fight with her
Pedroamaya12 11 months ago
ke gnocca!
ohmammakenny 1 year ago
She could actually put you down with one punch.
Xinsama 1 year ago
Very cool! She's got an amazing punch. Would love to see her timing as well as her skills in defensive and offensive tactics in jiyu-kumite.
Bassai 1 year ago
Damn shes rigid.!
Drezero13 1 year ago
Ive got to show this to my sensei hes gonna freak lol.
Flamingdragonarse 1 year ago
she is very strong. Anyone can help to translate what the sensei's explaination? thx for sharing this
thkun33 1 year ago
@thkun33 Have a look in the video description page. There's a link to a translated version. Just turn on the closed captioning in your video window (I think lower right corner of the video).
Jakneife 1 year ago
@thkun33
in short her father basically says. "even though she is small she is strong enough to 'not lose' to a bigger person. He makes the distinction between winning and not losing clear saying 'not losing' is what it's all about, not killing nor winning.
Peekingduck 11 months ago 6
That girl is Bad, in a good way!
talon115 1 year ago
ahh ive seen it ths method is teh swinging pendulum used to gauge ur progess cuz i remebering sse this somewhere
kaindrg 1 year ago
Interesting way to work, wearing my channel, best regards
alejandrocastr 1 year ago
@alejandrocastr
I am wearing your channel? I do not understand what you mean.
Jakneife 1 year ago
Sorry, my way of writing, only use the language translator. I mean it was interesting makiwara exercise, and inviting them to visit my channel greetings
alejandrocastr 1 year ago
@alejandrocastr
Ah, no problem. Thank you for helping me understand though. Your channel is pretty cool! Nice graphics and great vids.
Jakneife 1 year ago
She's cool.
SamuraiTankyuusha 1 year ago 4
@tiborzkarate - He's her Father... daddy's little girl! :)
Koryuhoka 1 year ago
what style is that?
brasucasoul 1 year ago
@brasucasoul It's the Shinjinbukan branch of Okinawa Kobayashi Shorin Ryu.
Jakneife 1 year ago
@Jakneife nice
brasucasoul 1 year ago
That is a skilled woman, wonder if she is looking for a man? If she already has one, he should feel VERY honored.
retepish 1 year ago
@retepish - Yep, she has a man. And I don't think he cares one way or the other about her skills. Never met him.
Jakneife 1 year ago
@retepish Lucky man
retepish 1 year ago
woow 4:29 , im sure that thing would have hitme right in da face , great video
alexfheind 1 year ago
Sexy, and she'll beat your ass!!!! Hot!^_^
Djcrazykidd 1 year ago
Nice woman !
lepivert 1 year ago
Great video!
cumanagoto 1 year ago
Is there a version of this video translated in english. Looks like a great video
TYYUBE 1 year ago 2
@TYYUBE You are in luck! If you view my description for the video, you will see a link to anikinippon's copy of this. He was kind enough to translate it. You will have to turn on the closed captioning so you can see what he has written. Enjoy!
Jakneife 1 year ago
@TYYUBE, You can buy the video's, it is in two parts & well worth it to buy.
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
hard training
danyelseulia 1 year ago
this girl can kick ass!
edlo123 1 year ago
holy shit this is a hell of woman bro :D dont mess with her =P
Tschjae 1 year ago
Para meu futuro estudante Lua, espero que ele possa ver a filosofia do trenamento Marcial, Logo poder treinar o corpo de tal forma que ele possa pasar para a parte espiritual....lembre-se que sem sacrificio, nada é conquistado.bom trenamentos
loboanamiguelito 2 years ago
Wow - there is so much mis-information out there that it makes the best training methods look dangerous or damaging to the practitioner.
Michiko Onaga can run rings around most of the "masters" posting their videos on Youtube.
It just goes to show that even the "famous" had no idea how much training they were deprived of.
Their loss!
Koryuhoka 2 years ago
The train I liked , but makiwara isn t for strenght or power.
makiwara is useful because you learn how to hit, if you don' t, you feel pain or you can break a finger or the hand.
Read something from Egami from Shotokai ryu. he speaks a lot about Makiwara as a useless tool, in Karate.
MarkShotokai 2 years ago
I want to read it. What is Egami sensei's full name?
Jakneife 2 years ago
The full name is Shigeru Egami headmaster of Shotokai Karate.
The interview about makiwara is: " Master Shigeru Egami's itinerary " or you can search : Shigeru Egami makiwara".
He explain how to use it , and when it s useless.
I think we learned the wrong use here in Europe or USA , in Okinawa it s used to teach how to hit , but not to have a strong punch or a stone hand.
Egami was the best teacher of Funakoshi of Shotokan, when Shotokan changed he created the Shotokai.
MarkShotokai 2 years ago
Cool! Many thanks :-)
Jakneife 2 years ago
This is not true; have you ever trained in Okinawa?
columbusdojo 2 years ago
Me? or MarkShotokai?
Jakneife 2 years ago
I was replying to MarkShotokai response about the makiwara not being used to have a strong punch.
I lived and trained in Okinawa for 6 years, and still travel to Okinawa every chance I get. The makiwara is used to teach proper striking techniqe, to strngthen the wrist, to ensure proper alignment, develop striking power, and condition and strengthen the bones.
I have been using the makiwara for 17 years of my adult life.
Do not confuse shotokan and okinawan karate training methods
columbusdojo 2 years ago
I'd have to agree with you. It's become an indispensable tool, IMO. I use it differently than when back in the U.S, which was just for conditioning. When you add tenchin it really helps with proprioception too.
Egami's essay was interesting; I like iconoclasm. But I disagree with him. Would like to see the new tsuki he developed. Essay would be a good topic for discussion on some forums.
Jakneife 2 years ago
@MarkShotokai True he does. Though he explains that a student first needs to use a makiwara to discover that fact.
BujiZen 2 years ago
yes. karate makiwara training has reason why we as karate practitioners train our hands and wrist on makiwaras in order to strengthen and condition our hands and wrist. it sure hurts when it starts bleeding and continues striking the makiwara. it has a good benefits of course. in you dont train in makiwara theres a risk of breaking your hand or wrist when you strike a target with devastating force.
kuruku2k 2 years ago
what reason is that? why would you want to feel pain if you're in a fight for your life? maybe if you're a musician or artist and need very high manual dexterity but not if you're a martial artist...
I think she is pretty and incredible... :) nice post! BTW: I didn't see any subtitles on the video response version
slimeslayer 2 years ago
When you watch the response vid, click on the closed captioned icon in the lower right hand corner and see if it still doesn't work.
As far as pain goes - I still have feelings in the nerves on my knuckles. I dunno, maybe I'm just a pain freak. But I used to enjoy the after-effects of kotekitai. I only backed off from that kind of training when I started getting damage to the tendons in my elbows. (and now I prefer muchimi to bashing :-)
Jakneife 2 years ago
I agree with you on the pretty part...but amongst that she is a superb karate ka
brasshandmartialarts 2 years ago
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linglingx911 2 years ago
Ta re loca la ponja!
Luckas1981 2 years ago
I can go along with that then since the human rib is a viable target
Nice work
Rick
KirkhamsEbooks 2 years ago
We not fighting people wearing wooden armor anymore. I do not see the point of taking a chance on permanently disfiguring your hands
Rick
KirkhamsEbooks 2 years ago
Our machiwara are crafted to try and approximate the tensile strength of human ribs. If you can hit the fishing sinker behind the post, you have a chance at cracking ribs. I likewise, do not anticipate fighting anyone in wooden armor.
As for the risk, what can I say? Most physical activity involves risk. Every individual needs to decide how far they want to go. Cheers!
Jakneife 2 years ago
She should use dit da jow.
Tazz77 2 years ago
I'm still advising extreme caution with any hand or leg conditioning to deaden nerves. They're there for a reason
Rick
KirkhamsEbooks 2 years ago
makiwara training doesnt kill any nerves it just makes them stronger. i have been hitting the makiwara for some years now and i can still fill things with my knuckles, the difference now is that when i punch it doesnt hurt anymore but i can feel.
Calderoni4 2 years ago
punch is really fast and like an arrow
nice
Drake23thein 2 years ago
By the way, what is the purpose of the string with the metal ball behind the makiwara? Is it a way to know if one is using the makiwara right or is it meant to develop reaction to someone's counter attack? or something else maybe?
JC9654 2 years ago
The fishing sinker hung behind the board is adjustable. It is just for measuring depth. The deeper you can move it, the more damage you can do to a chest cavity, for instance.
Incidentally, if you'd like to view a translated version of the program, see the video response left by aniki-nippon. He did a great job.
Jakneife 2 years ago
Gosh, this is really cool (even though I dont understand anything they are saying). I study Shorei Kempo and have recently began to use a Makiwara so I'm looking around for techniques to better my training. Thanks for the vid!
JC9654 2 years ago
She is so Awesome..! OSU..!
LucDelon 2 years ago
i studie matsubayashi shorin ryu. under rick moore and i see that the hips. is the key for makiwara and not so much the hand? but great video tell her DOMO Arigato
tonysrhensley 2 years ago
I agree with you that hips are critical. The makiwara definitely helps develop proper use of the hips for striking power. If you're saying that there are a lot more dimensions to makiwara training than just conditioning knuckles, then I agree with that too. The "video response" is worth a look if you haven't checked it out yet.
Jakneife 2 years ago
she would kick someones ass - bad
lenny380 2 years ago
ive been training for 4 years makiwara since got my 1st dan. that's crazy, my hands went hard. try to strike a makiwara like a real karateka and u'll brake them. fucking love karate.
caguamamon 2 years ago
OSU! from kyokushinkai Karate!
mddog 2 years ago
man what i wouldn't do to train in a dojo like that. Some old world stuff. Love this vid, thanks for the upload
saracen83 2 years ago
thanks for this. absolutly fantastic!
what is this womans name?
nicholaspye 2 years ago
She's Michiko Onaga.
Jakneife 2 years ago
and she's the daughter of the Sensei featured in the clip.
FredDude27 2 years ago
Thank you for this clip!
What a gem!
Thank you soooo much !
Peekingduck 2 years ago
Sugoi, Michiko Sensei..
aiko4321 3 years ago
I wonder where is this Okinawan Dojo located in or at ?
I studied Shito Ryu way back when i was a teenager and before that was a keen student of Ashihara , but that techniques shown here are wicked.
Respect and love to all Karatekas and Budokas..
MDIS 3 years ago
The dojo is in Asato district in Naha. Strangely (well, rather predictably), Nichols' NHK crew used footage of him walking around some of the most beautiful neighborhoods of Shuri on his way to the dojo. Makes for nice scenery though.
Jakneife 3 years ago
is she supposed to be one of the fastest? ive seen a lot of fast punches but wow this was great. or are they all this fast?
whyldephaier 3 years ago
When you say, "are they all this fast?", I assume you're talking about the other members of the Shinjinbukan? I don't know. I don't think I'm as fast as Michiko, but I can tsuki fast enough to break paper and machiwara is one of my favorite things. I would say it is one of Onaga sensei's specialties.
Jakneife 3 years ago
IF my girlfriends knows how to fight I don't have to worry about her safety.
DomDaDJ 3 years ago
Oh there was a mistipping . I meant brutalizing a woman can NOT be the right way. With brutalizing I meant this not so subtle difference between we men and women.They are getting too rough and turning men alike due to all kinds of activities and sports. it is clear to see that too often they do not know what to do with their off springs. well from here on we cross into a more complex view of why our world is turning to what it is. I particularly do not agree with women fighting !!!!
urutuc 3 years ago
This is a video about the use of machiwara as a tool for improving your martial arts. The fact that Michiko is so small is meant as a testimony to it's effectiveness, or at least an illustration of how we practice it.
I'm baffled that you would want to engage in a debate here about a woman's right to participate in martial arts. At least you think women are capable (I'm relieved). I just don't know why you let men "off the hook" so easily. Good luck with your crusade.
Jakneife 3 years ago
she is pretty fast ! However , and I will be alone on this one, I feel that this is not meant for girls ! All that´s corse takes the gentleness ... even worst make them less intuitive and sensitive . Brutalising a woman can be the right way. We Men are so enough...reason why we need one another , so that the two halves makes an unit. Each one contribuiting with the part the other lacks. Just a thought ! No point on going mad on me . Oss
urutuc 3 years ago
Brutalizing a woman can be the right way?? Are you serious? Brutalizing anyone is the WRONG way. It is exactly why women and smaller people in general should train martial arts.
I think people will understand you better if you comment in your native language. Then we can try to use translation programs. Maybe what you mean to say is not what is written.
Yosh
Jakneife 3 years ago
my japanese is far from perfect but from what I can make out they're talking a lot about the idea that Ti isn't meant to be used as a tool for killing. It is meant to make one strong, it's not for winning but it will keep you from losing but above all else it is not to be used to kill
majaimay 3 years ago 2
Nice dvd, gr8 to see the old Shotokan man from Wales!
mkdios122 3 years ago
Thats C.W Nicol author of Moving Zen "One man's journey to the heart of karate-do" visiting the dojo (If not read order it now)
Shame he didn't translate he could of so easily. Now we can only assume thats how they play conkers in Okinawa! =)
The paper trick was strange though, I used to do it without hitting the paper. But maybe I was doing it wrong?
Nice video
rosswoof 3 years ago
Ah, in some parts of the program, Nichol uses English, but it is a typical Japanese tourism program. Karate was a tagline to draw interest in Okinawa. My Japanese is improving but there are huge gaps in my understanding. So, much of the program is quite boring.
Breaking hanging paper is a great way to develop speed. No tricks there, just lot's of reps and correct technique. Note; phone books in the states use a thicker paper grade. It doesn't usually rip straight across - much more difficult.
Jakneife 3 years ago
Onaga Michiko Tsuki looks smooth as well as powerful
VRJaguarandi 3 years ago
She is amazing. What is her name? Does anyone know?
fongman312 3 years ago
her name is Onaga Michiko.
Jakneife 3 years ago
Wow! Say it again backwards... WOW! Thanks for posting this Michiko sensei is unbelievable. What a gift just to see it on video. 偉いです！
caseysan39 3 years ago
とても良い！巻藁の最良のパートナーに！
rasec93 3 years ago
Oh..my..
Again and again and again..I must to say that Michiko is AMAZING!
I can just dream about this power and energy.
AWESOME!
smelsliketeen 3 years ago
I"m impressed, great technique and skill
bigrobnz 3 years ago
El realmente fuerte, al poder manejar energia. Shory Ryu.
tenderpooh 3 years ago
Yes She is so thin but looks strong ( sorry My english is not good).
I was surprise.
May be next time i will go to oKinawa ( I go there every year), I will visite this amazing Dojo.
efou07 3 years ago
本当にすごい！
美智子先生強そう
efou07 3 years ago 2
"It is really awesome. Michiko sensei looks really strong" (thanks to Oshiro sensei for the translation). And thanks ofou07 for the comment.
Jakneife 3 years ago