Does anyone else think its very strange how empress alexandra and queen marie antoinette were distant relations and how similar they were in more than one way.
The tsar loved his children more than anything especially his sweet favorites Olga and his Alexei.. He often spoke about how Maria often ran up to him at such a young age (toddler days) to wrap her arms around his leg.. and he would send the Nannies out the door so he could be with Maria saying he never felt so much affection from one so young.. and his Anastasia was his little Impish girl and his Tatiana were also cose seeing how she was his wife's favorite
Its a shame that we, English people, many, of you have written comments, show such unkind and rather rude, comments about a family of whom you have no knowledge or contact; a martyred family who stood for the values for which most people in England, Germany, the United States or Poland or Canada would support today, let the man who lives in the glass house throw the first stone
meh; they've been speaking 'brit' since movies first had sound. so have the germans. hey...in 'lawrence of arabia', anthony quinn played an arab. and in "zorba' he played a greek. and he's mexican
Down with Fascism and Monarchism!! Both involved elite classes who lived lavishly while stealing the wealth of their constituents who, in the case of Czarist Russia, were virtually starving and resorting to cannibalism as a means of food. As far as I'm concerned both the Nazi Regime and the Romanov family got the punishments they deserved, both duly administered by bold and resilient working-class Russians.
@rjhill2 It was the times not the form of goverment. Leaders were and still are commenly corrupted, according to Americans thats what their leaders are now... Simply when it comes to goverment their is no best or worst method. nicholas was foolish but not cruel, the way he died he and his family died they did not deserve
If that royal family was alive today, I think that boy would've been a handsome man, and the two oldest girls, they would've been married, and the two youngest ones, and that boy too. heaven knows how old those kids would be today.
ABrit do you know how many millions of Russian lives lay on his head -- how much blood and how much death the Bloody Tsar evaded responsibility for? Thank God he was put down like the monster he was
Nicholas was dumb. He should have kept Russia out of war with Japan and Germany and the likes of Lenin and Stalin and what they wrought probably never would have happened. The man didn't know his own or his country's limitations.
you are confusing the two world wars -- in WW1, Japan was on the allied side, and Germany only entered the war because the tsarist oppressors ruling the Russian people encouraged Serbia to provoke Austro-Hungary into open conflict after the assassination of the Grand Duke by Serbian terrorists, the predecessors of Milosevic and Mladic
@fuzzygreenalien7 You are even more clueless than the person I first responded to. When we are talking about the war with Japan, it has nothing to do with second world war. We are talking about the RUSSO-JAPANESE WAR. The problem with your second theory is that there is NO evidence to suggest that Russia had ANYTHING to do with the asssaination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
@ImperialRussianGuard actually that is not completely true yes Germany did invade the Soviet Union yet Japan refused to attack the Soviet Union when Hitler asked them to
@blizzardblumpers Actually, it was the US invasion of Serbia which forced the hand of the Romanov's captors. The Bolsheviks did not want to execute the family, but they feared them being used as pawns by foreign powers to reinstate a puppet monarchy. Had Wilson stayed out of it, the family would most likely have been allowed to leave the country.
our modern history class just finished watching this movie, and we all thought it was really good. at the end (sorry if u havent seen til the end) we were all holding our breath and most of us were getting misty eyes. terrifically done!
@80stvguy and another thing the Czarina was actually raised in England by the British royal family so she would have spoken with an English accent though she in fact was born in Germany that is why the Russians called "Germanskaya" which means German woman in Russian,
@Karenjadegirl I speak fluent Polish and understand Russian well so I know what Nemka means and those who really did not like her called her "Nemka Suka". I think Nick was a durak because Russia has the loveliest women in the world much better than Germany or England.Im American by the way but live in Poland. Where are you from?
@truvianni Actually, Alexandra and Elizabeth were both known to be quite beautiful, and Nicholas and Alexandra had loved eachother since he was 16 and she was 12, so I don't think he was a "durak" for marrying her, regardless of their flaws and mistakes as rulers. And I'm Canadian by the way.
@Karenjadegirl I dont think he was a durak for that reason but for other reasons.Yes I know they were very much in love I am an American writer by the way and I write a lot of articles about history and opera if you wish to read some of my work please google my name "Truvianni" and you will see. I speak some Russian and understand a lot given that I am fluent in Polish
@80stvguy Yeah, Nicholas and Alexandra often wrote in English to one another and spoke English when together, and their children were also fluent English speakers (yet Nicholas spoke Russian to them). :)
@MagicPixieSprinkle also, his children all spoke english with scottish accents as their tutors and some of their nannies were scottiah, and employed on the recomendation of King George
@80stvguy What's your point? There are recent movies that have Germans speaking with American accents; heck, there are even movies where in galaxies far, far away people speak with American accents. And British accents. And Canadian accents. Scottish. Etc.
The point of watching these sorts of films is not to concentrate on the actors, but the message.
@80stvguy Tsar Nicholas II English was very good. Nicholas' mother was the sister of British Queen Alexandra, the mother of George V. The Empress Alexandra was the daughter of Princess Alice, herself a daughter of Queen Victoria, King George and him would write letters to eachother in English. However if you mean why are they talking english in Russia then you have a point.
@80stvguyActually, this is accurate. Alexandra spent more time in England while growing up than in her native Germany. English was therefore her native language. Nicholas was very gifted in languages, Alix less so. Because her Russian was so poor, N and A usually spoke English to each other in private as strange as that might seem. A, of course, had to speak Russian to most others. The kids were all educated in languages, but preferred Russian, especially Alexis.
@80stvguy Actually the Tsar and his family had excellent relationship with the Royal Family and also he spoke a perfect English ;) He and the future king George were cousins and quite similar like twins.
Nicholas was not entirely blameless for what happened in 1917. From what I've heard of the man, he would have been the ideal tsar - in an earlier age. The problem is that he was a man of the past, woefully unprepared for the future.
Most of the history I've read says he was a decent man - a good husband and father, someone you'd like to call your friend...but he was not a good leader. He paid for it in blood - and the greater tragedy is that his family, and Russia, paid with him.
when we did about them in history i remember feeling sad, he was probably a wonderful father and man, I drew a cartoon of him with a tear going down his cheek...it made me feel even more sad.
@ptevlin True, although it is kind of sad: he could have been easily treated had he been born 100 years later. Hemophilia B sufferers now live a fairly average life span.
i agree they should have just send them to exile n not murder them, n i know that nicholas never wanted to rule, but he should have thought of the possibility cause he is a royal, another thing they live in luxury while the whole country was in shambles, starving its crazy.
@Mandinko23 the only problem with that is if the white army got nicholas back they could have rallied around him and affectively put done the revolution. Thats why they killed them in that place because the white army was getting close
There is a sad parallel between Nicholas and Charles I - both were cultured and gentle men, courteous and good family men. Both hated confrontation, but their deep conviction was that they had been called by God to rule and this placed them both under an immense personal sense of duty and obligation which they felt they could not betray. As a result both came into increasing conflict with their burgeoning Parliaments looking for more devolution of power. Both paid the price with their lives.
Sadly, Nicholas was a good family man. but a terrible tzar....and the dynasty, his family and the country paid a terrible price for his mistakes.....thank you for an excellent film...
The way that they died was a crime against humanity, it doesn't matter how they acted (specially Tsar Nicholas) before their murder, they should have been sent into exile, but never be assassinated. Grand Duchess Anastasia reminds as the most wonderful highness ever.
love the movie, The royal family could have been saved had their cousin the britsh king not thrown them to the wolves. Still the Romanovs ignored the dire poverty which surrounded them for so long whille living in luxury( people forget this) not surprised they ended up as they did just surprised it didnt happen sooner
Simply a classic movie; nothing to criticise - it even had the finest actor Olivier in it. Tragedy of the 20th Century but had he been a 'wise' man he could have made Russia great - and lived.
I'm watching this movie for history class and doing a project on it. What my teacher doesn't know is half the people in my class love this movie and find it an easy 100 to do a project on.
At least Britain had the good sense to have a monarchy that gradually passed on its power to the elected governments in the form of Prime Ministers. Britain evolved and developed into a modern nation.
Russia entered the 20th century with the same form of government practiced by Ivan the Terrible in the 16th century.
@Manuelherrera777 Imperial Russia did have a parliament the Duma(sp?) However the only real differance that a lot more power lied in control with the Czar then did the King England. They Lack the Magna Carta. I say power in one person can lead to as many good things as they can bad.
In my opinion, Nicholas was the worst KIND of dictator there is; the kind who does not realize himself as the tyrant the entire world knows him to be; the one who does not have at least the intelligence to do the SMART thing, never mind the RIGHT thing. Stalin and Mao were tyrants and murderers who had perjured themselves as servants of the proletariat. However, their rules made superpowers of the countries emperors and tsars had failed to. A heartless genius is better than a pious incompetent.
They(Stalin and Mao) did their countries into superpowers by murdering well over 100million people. The oneUSSR fell apart after 74years of missmanagement and poverty the other became a prostituted economy/one party-state.
Russia under the tsars would also have developed but not through massmurder but by reforms.
I doubt the Russia we have today would have been the same Russia under the Tsar. I don't agree how the Romanovs got killed but Nicholas II was a weak leader. They lost the Crimean War, WWI, Russo-Japanese War, and if they lasted they would have lost to Germany and Japan on the East in WWII. The Bolsheviks advanced the country and made decent living for the Russian people, what the Tsar failed to do.
@neosoc And this, my friends, is the utilitarian sentiment of the same Mao and Stalin. No, my friend: intentions matter. Incompetents should be removed from thrones and one who is competent should take the lead, but I would much rather have an incompetent King with good intentions than an evil dictator who is all to competent in the fulfillment of his wicked schemes.
they were executed for crimes against the russian people.Think what to will of history,they watched their people slaughtered on the battle field,they ordered cossacks to murder their own people and they watched the russian people die of cold and starvation,while they live in their ivory towers.
george the 5th didn't waste time then and one of them was the 22month old prince phillip now duke of edinburgh - george the 5th should have saved them
@misteeq64@misteeq64 George V was originally going to save them, but then the government intervened and reminded him that the Russians were not very popular in Britain at that time. As the First World War was still going on, they wanted to appease the Bolsheviks as much as possible so Russia wouldn't pull out of the war and allow the whole German army to move from the Eastern Front and possibly win the war.
@miss1927 Other things I couldn't fit in the original reply: I don't think either George or the British government knew that Alexandra and the children would be murdered along with Nicholas (and I'm not sure if they even thought he'd be killed ieither.) With hindsight, I'm pretty sure they would have done something, as Nicky and George were first cousins after all (along with Kaiser Wilhelm.)
Actually it was George V's private secretary Lord Stamfordham who persuaded him to change his mind. This was before the Communists had seized power and the Royal Family were not in any danger at all.
@TheYoung450 Boris Yeltsin, the man of whom the world would hear more, was given the instruction from Moscow of demolishing the Ipatiev House in 1977. He called the murder of Nicholas II and his family an obscenity.
I agree with you, they did not deserve to be murdered so cruelly. I would rather that they had lived, too, but then, would Russia still be on the way to freedom? We will never know.
@TheYoung450 They were an amazing and beautiful family that was dealt a bad hand. They loved each other and loved their country. They did not deserve to die the way they did.
@TheYoung450 Tsar Nicholas was not only a brutal dictator, but did absolutely nothing to better the lives of his starving uneducated people. He abused his people, and put my grandfather in solitary confinement 3 times before he was 17 years old. His crime was simply that he verbally expressed his contempt for the Tsar. Luckily, he had a friend who was as a policeman in his area. One night the friend told him of a 4th arrest warrant. He left Russia that night, as they would have killed him .
@yourtreat2 I, for one, am glad your family obviously survived those times. I am sorry you had to endure this, but am glad you did. I did hear him (in the movie) say the people had no right to speak against him and how they would surely die... but they were hungry and protesting injustice. He should have never said it, because in that utterance, he sealed the fate of his own family. Sad.
@yourtreat2 Under Tsar Nicholas II both the economy and life expectancy rates were growing. Not to mention that thanks to his reforms in the field of eduction by 1914 3/4 of all children were in school. So you cannot claim he did not do anything for the common people. Also he cannot have been a brutal dictator. For many reasons, one of them being that a dictator is an autocratic ruler with NO hereditary legitimacy. When one examines his accomplishments one sees that he was a pretty good ruler.
@ImperialRussianGuard Pardon my asking for a shred of evidence as to validity of your statistics? Please cite page #'s and reference/URL. As the movie also present Tsar Nicholas as a bloody dictator, presumably you take exception to that as well. BTW. Politically speaking, are you a Facist, or do you simply feel that either Autocratic or Dictatorial rulers like Hitler gave Tsar Nicky a bad name? Opps! Now, you're going to tell me how Hitler did wonders for the Germans & was a nice guy, too!
@yourtreat2 There are numerous sources that confirm such views. However to make your life easier I will direct to one for now. Page 44 of "The Pity of War" by Niall Ferguson. However you could also read the countless statistics and writings by people of the time. However judging by your rabbling I take it that you don't read much. Someone who compares Tsar Nicholas II to Hitler is either attempting humor or has not been blessed with the gift of high intelligence.
@ImperialRussianGuard Aside from my previous response (below) requesting specific page #'s and references for your unsupported statistics and claims, I could provide hundreds of sources to support my own.Although Wiki is not the best, it will suffice in that it specifically provides specific terms you should know.
Nicholas_II_of_Russia provides the infamous terms "Bloody Nicholas", Bloody Sunday" , "Anti-Jewish pogroms of 1903–1906". You are obviously clueless.
@ImperialRussianGuard Just as a rule of thumb, good rulers are not over-thrown. Every one of your claims is absurd. However, the claim that I find the most idiotic is your idea of "the economy" which in fact does NOT refer to the standard of living of the average Russian, but instead refers to the growth of the profits held by the aristocracy that did not "trickle-down" to anyone else. Are you GWB or just as stupid as him?
@yourtreat2 Good rulers are not overthrown ? Emperor Dom Pedro II of Brazil was overthrown at the peak of his popularity. He had lead Brazil successfully through war and under him the economy was blooming.He abolished slavery. Also Caesar was a good ruler but he was betrayed by deceitful men nonetheless. As you can see your theory that good rulers aren't overthrown doesn't stand up. Instead of crying how outraged you are, provide something with substance.
I feel so sorry for the Tsar. Can you imagine never wanting to rule in the first place, and being told you have to rule the largest nation on earth? Having no idea what your doing and yet being responsible for not only the ppl suffering in your country but responsible for you and your family's brutal death? Your whole life just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. . . .
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN You feel sorry for "bloody Nicholas" and not for the thousands of peasants he had executed in 1906-08?
When marshal law was proclaimed and traveling courts marshalls began to try rebellious peasants, those condemned to death appealed to Nicholas for mercy. His reply was to order a halt to these appeals. He didn't want to be bothered.
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN At the end of the day the Tsar was responsible for his own downfall, it could so easily have been avoided through allowing a modernisation of the industrial and agricultural economy - something he was wary of - and by staying out of overseas issues in the Balkans. He never wanted to rule, true, but that does not excuse the incompetence he displayed ruing his time as Tsar.
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Anytime you call out the machine-guns on your own people, you've gone from inept and clueless to straight murder. Nicholas was a murderer, as is nearly every monarch in world history. If revolution be the means of their destruction, I weep little for those who sit at the top of such a tyrannical system. His short moment of suffering was nothing compared to the rivers of blood that stained his hands. Still, it's not cool to kill kids, or even innocent future tyrants.
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Save your pity for someone else. Nicholas was an antisemitic shit, and idiot, a murder of peasants. And at that, he was the best of his clan.
@ababil13 You are an ignorant, antisemitic piece of shit. If I were Jewish, I certainly wouldn't tell you--the eternal enemy--because I would give you anything but what you deserve--a bullet in you useless skull. If I were not Jewish I would not disassiciate myself from comrads in the eternal battle against racist, Nazi defects like yourself. All you need to know is it is "us" the decent people of this world against you the scumbags of this world. Just please go to hell now where you belong.
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Fortunately, the movie took great pains to overtly state that Tsar Nicholas was a bloody tyrant, and only children, as would be expected, were oblivious to the fact that this family became the richest family in the world, at that time, only because of the suffering of the Russian people. Unlike many other films, this film did NOT sympathizing with the Romanovs, and make out the revolutionaries to be brutes deserving of their past and future suffering..
@yourtreat2 Am I a Fascist ? No, I am a Monarchist. One cannot be both at the same time since they are polar opposites. Historically Fascist detested Monarchists. Since Hitler you brought up Hitler it may interest you to know that he called Monarchists "decadent beings" in Mein Kampf. Monarchists did not like him back since they attempted to assassinate him, led by the aristocrat Claus von Stauffenberg. Hitler in many speeches spoke about the importance of democracy.
@yourtreat2 On December 10,1940; Calls himself an Arch Democrat, November,8,1938; calls National Socialism the "truest democracy";January,30,1937; calls National Socialism constitution democratic; In Mein Kampf he writes on p.99 "The truly Germanic democracy with free election of the leader, who is obliged to assume full responsibility for all his actions. This only a few instances of him sharing support for democracy. Similar views can be found among his top advisors such a Goebbels and Hess.
@ImperialRussianGuard he was as that is why he bore the name Von (meaning gentry) yet his cause was not a desire to see a return of the monarchy but a real believe that the only thing worse than a Nazi defeat in the war was a Nazi victory. He was also lucky he was only shot some for the very same conspiracy were hung with piano wire
@ImperialRussianGuard Really? That's interesting, since I never imagined facists would speak of the importance of democracy. What happened to my friend's family wasn't all that democratic.
@Karenjadegirl It is actually not that surprising considering the strong democratic roots of National Socialism. Not only does National Socialism have the democratic ideals of the French Revolution as a basis for many of its ideas, but it only could come to power due the rise of democracy in Europe after the WW1. After all Hitler came to power through the democratic process. I don't know what happened to your friend's family, so I cannot determine whether it was "democratic" or not.
@Karenjadegirl Why do you for some reason believe that democracies don't commit genocide ? Haven't you heard of the Reign of terror ? If you don't think democracies commit genocide then I suggest you look into what happened during the French Revolution. Such barbarism had not been seen since the days of Attila the Hun. And all of it was done in the name of " democratic values". What happened in Vendee was without a doubt genocide. It was also without a doubt "democratic" .
@yourtreat2 Actually, I don't believe this depicts Nicholas as a "bloody tyrant" at all, but as an all-to-human, flawed and mistaken man. I think there's allot of sympathy shown for for him and his family.
On the flip side, although it's true allot of bolshevicks were brutish terrorists and crooks, there's also allot of sympathy shown for those whose poverty drove them to join the party.
I would've also asked for Nicholas' silence regarding politics in exchange for silence regarding Alexei's condition (unless medically necessary.) The Romanovs could revert to some of Alexandra's old titles through her mother, and keep a low profile at least until after WWII....and then things could get interesting c. 1989!!
If I could have changed history, I would have wanted the Romanovs to settle in Britain at the grace of His Majesty. They would be given land and title, but they would be allowed to stay ONLY if they do not attempt to take the throne back, i.e., so long as Communism thrives at the Kremlin. CONTD
What's really scary, the actor who plays Nicholas really looks like Nicholas (as per his photos and portraits). Casting gets an "A". GREAT sound and picture!
just think, if the Romanovs would have escaped to the United States, Nicholas could have used the jewels sewn in the princesses corsets to invest in railroads. He would have become very rich. The imperial family would have been the new Vanderbilts. maybe we would be watching Nicholas' great great great grand children on reality shows on vh1 today.
If this happens, then the Romanov family would have been one of the wealthiest families in the United States! The railroads would be constructed in the European style (such as the air train in France and Great Britain), the European Russian influence would play a major role in American culture today, and the descendants of Nicholas II of Russia would have dominated American politics, social life, and the Hollywood red carpet in today's society.
@1brandonfan I am not so sure that would be wise. If there are any lessons to draw from the life of Nicholas, it is that it is not how somebody is born that matters, but what someone is born to be. Nicholas was bred to be an absolute ruler, a czar: traditionally this meant a ruler that governed Russia with an iron fist (Russia was one of the last European countries to abolish serfdom.)
Nicholas, as it turned out, had zero talent for politics or warfare & waged disastrous battles in the Far East, plus he could never see his own people were living in rags while he & the Duma lived like fattened calves. Worse, he wed a woman who was too closely related to him for anybody's good
Is Alexis..I dont know, the british version of Alexei, his actual name?
caytieeinfinity 1 week ago
What are they saying at 5:30 ? can anyone translate it?
RedBlueBlurForever 4 weeks ago
Does anyone else think its very strange how empress alexandra and queen marie antoinette were distant relations and how similar they were in more than one way.
kingofcouture1996 1 month ago
The tsar loved his children more than anything especially his sweet favorites Olga and his Alexei.. He often spoke about how Maria often ran up to him at such a young age (toddler days) to wrap her arms around his leg.. and he would send the Nannies out the door so he could be with Maria saying he never felt so much affection from one so young.. and his Anastasia was his little Impish girl and his Tatiana were also cose seeing how she was his wife's favorite
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Filthy commie bastards! Long live the Tsar!
79Grunn 1 month ago
Its a shame that we, English people, many, of you have written comments, show such unkind and rather rude, comments about a family of whom you have no knowledge or contact; a martyred family who stood for the values for which most people in England, Germany, the United States or Poland or Canada would support today, let the man who lives in the glass house throw the first stone
williamhough111 2 months ago
meh; they've been speaking 'brit' since movies first had sound. so have the germans. hey...in 'lawrence of arabia', anthony quinn played an arab. and in "zorba' he played a greek. and he's mexican
wrybreadspread 3 months ago
ps: great film, btw...one of my favs :)
rjhill2 3 months ago
Down with Fascism and Monarchism!! Both involved elite classes who lived lavishly while stealing the wealth of their constituents who, in the case of Czarist Russia, were virtually starving and resorting to cannibalism as a means of food. As far as I'm concerned both the Nazi Regime and the Romanov family got the punishments they deserved, both duly administered by bold and resilient working-class Russians.
rjhill2 3 months ago
@rjhill2 It was the times not the form of goverment. Leaders were and still are commenly corrupted, according to Americans thats what their leaders are now... Simply when it comes to goverment their is no best or worst method. nicholas was foolish but not cruel, the way he died he and his family died they did not deserve
ajm267 3 months ago
That's where Michale Jackson got the idea.
mrspopp123 5 months ago
LOL. Everything the men are wearing looks liek something out of Michael Jackson's closet...the military coats.
MsSilentsiren 5 months ago
If that royal family was alive today, I think that boy would've been a handsome man, and the two oldest girls, they would've been married, and the two youngest ones, and that boy too. heaven knows how old those kids would be today.
DimeraFan28 5 months ago
@DimeraFan28 They'd been dead due to biology!
1976valy 2 months ago
Such a superb lavishly made,brilliantly acted masterpiece...a 10/10.
MovieMATINEEChannel2 6 months ago
I wanna learn Russian hehe...
wincipoet 6 months ago
One of my all time favorite films. Increible score by Bennett. I also love Tom Baker in his role. Douglas Alexander John D'Maddlena(Matley)
douglasmatley 7 months ago
I like the way he says "smash the Japanese!" well I guess that is another one of his many plans which did not go according to his wishes
truvianni 8 months ago
ABrit do you know how many millions of Russian lives lay on his head -- how much blood and how much death the Bloody Tsar evaded responsibility for? Thank God he was put down like the monster he was
fuzzygreenalien79 8 months ago
@fuzzygreenalien79 You claim he killed millions of Russians, prove it. Give me clear evidence that he killed over a million Russians.
ImperialRussianGuard 8 months ago
Nicholas was dumb. He should have kept Russia out of war with Japan and Germany and the likes of Lenin and Stalin and what they wrought probably never would have happened. The man didn't know his own or his country's limitations.
rickv404 8 months ago
@rickv404 Both Japan and Germany declared war on Russia, not the other way around.
ImperialRussianGuard 8 months ago
you are confusing the two world wars -- in WW1, Japan was on the allied side, and Germany only entered the war because the tsarist oppressors ruling the Russian people encouraged Serbia to provoke Austro-Hungary into open conflict after the assassination of the Grand Duke by Serbian terrorists, the predecessors of Milosevic and Mladic
fuzzygreenalien79 8 months ago
@fuzzygreenalien7 You are even more clueless than the person I first responded to. When we are talking about the war with Japan, it has nothing to do with second world war. We are talking about the RUSSO-JAPANESE WAR. The problem with your second theory is that there is NO evidence to suggest that Russia had ANYTHING to do with the asssaination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
ImperialRussianGuard 8 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard actually that is not completely true yes Germany did invade the Soviet Union yet Japan refused to attack the Soviet Union when Hitler asked them to
truvianni 8 months ago
Thank you very much for this gem.
arsofe 9 months ago
motherfucking bolsheviks
blizzardblumpers 9 months ago
@blizzardblumpers Actually, it was the US invasion of Serbia which forced the hand of the Romanov's captors. The Bolsheviks did not want to execute the family, but they feared them being used as pawns by foreign powers to reinstate a puppet monarchy. Had Wilson stayed out of it, the family would most likely have been allowed to leave the country.
Ihateironman 9 months ago
@Ihateironman My history teacher was wrong then.
blizzardblumpers 9 months ago
I wanted to watch this anyway, but when I saw "Tom Baker" in the opening credits, it just got about 70% more interesting.
OliveTheBreloom 10 months ago
@OliveTheBreloom
Tom Baker as Rasputin-- genius!
One of the great British actors of his time.
neckronn99 10 months ago
@OliveTheBreloom
And, holy crap, Ian Holm's in this, too!
neckronn99 10 months ago
@neckronn99
You obviously realize I am a nerd....he played Blibo right?
OliveTheBreloom 10 months ago
our modern history class just finished watching this movie, and we all thought it was really good. at the end (sorry if u havent seen til the end) we were all holding our breath and most of us were getting misty eyes. terrifically done!
jackieclark123 10 months ago
I didn't know the russians spoke "british"
80stvguy 11 months ago 13
@80stvguy actually Nicholas and Alenxandra spoke English to each other. This is historicially acurate
truvianni 8 months ago
@80stvguy and another thing the Czarina was actually raised in England by the British royal family so she would have spoken with an English accent though she in fact was born in Germany that is why the Russians called "Germanskaya" which means German woman in Russian,
truvianni 8 months ago
@truvianni Yes, and she was also called, rather unkindly the "Nemka" which meant the same thing.
Karenjadegirl 7 months ago
@Karenjadegirl I speak fluent Polish and understand Russian well so I know what Nemka means and those who really did not like her called her "Nemka Suka". I think Nick was a durak because Russia has the loveliest women in the world much better than Germany or England.Im American by the way but live in Poland. Where are you from?
truvianni 7 months ago
@truvianni Actually, Alexandra and Elizabeth were both known to be quite beautiful, and Nicholas and Alexandra had loved eachother since he was 16 and she was 12, so I don't think he was a "durak" for marrying her, regardless of their flaws and mistakes as rulers. And I'm Canadian by the way.
Karenjadegirl 6 months ago
@Karenjadegirl I dont think he was a durak for that reason but for other reasons.Yes I know they were very much in love I am an American writer by the way and I write a lot of articles about history and opera if you wish to read some of my work please google my name "Truvianni" and you will see. I speak some Russian and understand a lot given that I am fluent in Polish
truvianni 6 months ago
@80stvguy Actually, Nicholas and his family spoke perfect English and some said they could easilly be mistaken for British.
Karenjadegirl 7 months ago
@Karenjadegirl Well Alexandra was raised in England and they did speak English to each other in their private conversations
truvianni 7 months ago
@80stvguy well it's a film in the English language made by the British although the story is about Russia :)...
wincipoet 6 months ago
@80stvguy Yeah, Nicholas and Alexandra often wrote in English to one another and spoke English when together, and their children were also fluent English speakers (yet Nicholas spoke Russian to them). :)
MagicPixieSprinkle 6 months ago
@MagicPixieSprinkle also, his children all spoke english with scottish accents as their tutors and some of their nannies were scottiah, and employed on the recomendation of King George
seancozzi96 3 weeks ago
@80stvguy What's your point? There are recent movies that have Germans speaking with American accents; heck, there are even movies where in galaxies far, far away people speak with American accents. And British accents. And Canadian accents. Scottish. Etc.
The point of watching these sorts of films is not to concentrate on the actors, but the message.
jlandles 4 months ago 2
@80stvguy Tsar Nicholas II English was very good. Nicholas' mother was the sister of British Queen Alexandra, the mother of George V. The Empress Alexandra was the daughter of Princess Alice, herself a daughter of Queen Victoria, King George and him would write letters to eachother in English. However if you mean why are they talking english in Russia then you have a point.
vandegevel1 3 months ago
@80stvguyActually, this is accurate. Alexandra spent more time in England while growing up than in her native Germany. English was therefore her native language. Nicholas was very gifted in languages, Alix less so. Because her Russian was so poor, N and A usually spoke English to each other in private as strange as that might seem. A, of course, had to speak Russian to most others. The kids were all educated in languages, but preferred Russian, especially Alexis.
litwriter100 2 months ago
@80stvguy jajaa
kelito1000 2 months ago
@80stvguy Actually the Tsar and his family had excellent relationship with the Royal Family and also he spoke a perfect English ;) He and the future king George were cousins and quite similar like twins.
SastreCapital 1 month ago
So wonderful to finally see this film on you tube...Bless u for uploading this gem :-)
TRUEStoryFILMS 1 year ago
Nicholas was not entirely blameless for what happened in 1917. From what I've heard of the man, he would have been the ideal tsar - in an earlier age. The problem is that he was a man of the past, woefully unprepared for the future.
Most of the history I've read says he was a decent man - a good husband and father, someone you'd like to call your friend...but he was not a good leader. He paid for it in blood - and the greater tragedy is that his family, and Russia, paid with him.
WarmasterJoshmaul 1 year ago 2
Nicholas II had such horrible advisors. *shakes head*
MoonLitBunny 1 year ago
only when great ppl get killed, ppl start to love them and feel sorry :\ sick reality
Alex7s 1 year ago
I found the discussion of the Russo-Japanese War interesting. Lots of parallels to Viet Nam and it was made in 1971 ...
bestfriendsgirl 1 year ago
Such a great story and ab fab movie
neiljs5098 1 year ago
when we did about them in history i remember feeling sad, he was probably a wonderful father and man, I drew a cartoon of him with a tear going down his cheek...it made me feel even more sad.
alexanderhulse 1 year ago 2
Stalin should have died 10 years before Anastasia was born!
sweetiegrl41 1 year ago 2
(dont really want to watch but have 2 4 social studies
hotwheelpro025 1 year ago
@ptevlin True, although it is kind of sad: he could have been easily treated had he been born 100 years later. Hemophilia B sufferers now live a fairly average life span.
shadowkitty56 1 year ago
RIP Tsar Nicolas II and his family may they find peace in heaven amen.
kikyosan543 1 year ago
wow.you'll smash the japs eh. Guess not.
geoffybellofiore 1 year ago
i agree they should have just send them to exile n not murder them, n i know that nicholas never wanted to rule, but he should have thought of the possibility cause he is a royal, another thing they live in luxury while the whole country was in shambles, starving its crazy.
Mandinko23 1 year ago
@Mandinko23 the only problem with that is if the white army got nicholas back they could have rallied around him and affectively put done the revolution. Thats why they killed them in that place because the white army was getting close
StBlinks2112 1 year ago 2
There is a sad parallel between Nicholas and Charles I - both were cultured and gentle men, courteous and good family men. Both hated confrontation, but their deep conviction was that they had been called by God to rule and this placed them both under an immense personal sense of duty and obligation which they felt they could not betray. As a result both came into increasing conflict with their burgeoning Parliaments looking for more devolution of power. Both paid the price with their lives.
ha6ni6el6 1 year ago 2
Sadly, Nicholas was a good family man. but a terrible tzar....and the dynasty, his family and the country paid a terrible price for his mistakes.....thank you for an excellent film...
lightOrchid1 1 year ago
The way that they died was a crime against humanity, it doesn't matter how they acted (specially Tsar Nicholas) before their murder, they should have been sent into exile, but never be assassinated. Grand Duchess Anastasia reminds as the most wonderful highness ever.
WiltatKansas 1 year ago 2
thank you so much for uploading this film.
God bless
LaydiieeTiigaarhh 1 year ago
Thank you so much for uploading this!
LaydiieeTiigaarhh 1 year ago
love the movie, The royal family could have been saved had their cousin the britsh king not thrown them to the wolves. Still the Romanovs ignored the dire poverty which surrounded them for so long whille living in luxury( people forget this) not surprised they ended up as they did just surprised it didnt happen sooner
joedgillis 1 year ago
Russians must be crazy - they got rid of the Tsar then put Lenin and Stalin in his place - now they have Tsar Putin!
bellsmyre49 1 year ago
Russians must be crazy - they got rid of the Tsar then put Lenin and Stalin in his place
bellsmyre49 1 year ago
yes, it is my favorite movie as well, it is very special to me and my family-great film and actors/actresses-love Michael Jayston as Nicholas ll.
JeremyIrons1fantoo 1 year ago
I love how Nicholas and Alexandra tease each other. It's so sweet!
MissJennySmiles 1 year ago
I love the opening music.
sanjac07 1 year ago
i think bale christian makes a better alexei
darkangel78921 1 year ago
witte says "sir imagine your a factory worker..."
tsar says "huh?"
best not to ask this guy to imagine anything.
890buddha 1 year ago
Simply a classic movie; nothing to criticise - it even had the finest actor Olivier in it. Tragedy of the 20th Century but had he been a 'wise' man he could have made Russia great - and lived.
paljim24 1 year ago
I'm watching this movie for history class and doing a project on it. What my teacher doesn't know is half the people in my class love this movie and find it an easy 100 to do a project on.
popcorn10124 1 year ago
the tsar and tsarina lived a charmed life it would be so fun
americangirlpixar 1 year ago
forcing someone who knows nothing about ruling a country (let alone one as big as russia, and the state it was in at the time) is completely unfair.
MascaraMouse 1 year ago
5:59 - 6:03 Too bad the Trans-Siberia Railway was still under construction; its incompleteness would weaken transportation of men to the front
DLAbaoaqu 1 year ago
nice quality
missycheezy121 1 year ago
At least Britain had the good sense to have a monarchy that gradually passed on its power to the elected governments in the form of Prime Ministers. Britain evolved and developed into a modern nation.
Russia entered the 20th century with the same form of government practiced by Ivan the Terrible in the 16th century.
manuelherrera777 2 years ago
@Manuelherrera777 Imperial Russia did have a parliament the Duma(sp?) However the only real differance that a lot more power lied in control with the Czar then did the King England. They Lack the Magna Carta. I say power in one person can lead to as many good things as they can bad.
northforge 1 year ago
In my opinion, Nicholas was the worst KIND of dictator there is; the kind who does not realize himself as the tyrant the entire world knows him to be; the one who does not have at least the intelligence to do the SMART thing, never mind the RIGHT thing. Stalin and Mao were tyrants and murderers who had perjured themselves as servants of the proletariat. However, their rules made superpowers of the countries emperors and tsars had failed to. A heartless genius is better than a pious incompetent.
neosoc 2 years ago
Nicholas wasn't a dictator he was the Tsar the crowned king of all Russia
synchro45 2 years ago 6
@synchro45 true he was too stupid and weak to be a dictator
truvianni 8 months ago
They(Stalin and Mao) did their countries into superpowers by murdering well over 100million people. The oneUSSR fell apart after 74years of missmanagement and poverty the other became a prostituted economy/one party-state.
Russia under the tsars would also have developed but not through massmurder but by reforms.
am1966ath 2 years ago 3
I doubt the Russia we have today would have been the same Russia under the Tsar. I don't agree how the Romanovs got killed but Nicholas II was a weak leader. They lost the Crimean War, WWI, Russo-Japanese War, and if they lasted they would have lost to Germany and Japan on the East in WWII. The Bolsheviks advanced the country and made decent living for the Russian people, what the Tsar failed to do.
MobHeataEnt 1 year ago
@MobheataEnt..there were never any decent living standard in the soviet union. Neither were there mostly anything to buy.
It was a disfuctional system with could not provide basic goods but could produce sputniks and tanks.
Stalin killed of the majority of talented people..those that survived were spineless serfs with no mind of their own.
The soviet union was a poor and dull superpower, all the beauty of the russian culture was created during tsarist time.
am1966ath 1 year ago
Except for, you know, how they intentionally slaughtered and murdered tens of millions of their own countrymen with remorse.
hoodoo961 2 years ago
@neosoc And this, my friends, is the utilitarian sentiment of the same Mao and Stalin. No, my friend: intentions matter. Incompetents should be removed from thrones and one who is competent should take the lead, but I would much rather have an incompetent King with good intentions than an evil dictator who is all to competent in the fulfillment of his wicked schemes.
JonathanCid 1 year ago
@jonathanCid well said, most of Stalins and Maos ideas came to nothing except massmurder of talented or different people to create "equal societies"
am1966ath 1 year ago
it was my mums fav film, thanx
comets00 2 years ago
Aleluuia..somebody put this movie here in youtube..i´ve been lokking for it a longggg time...thanks
cahlindinhaloira 2 years ago 2
they were executed for crimes against the russian people.Think what to will of history,they watched their people slaughtered on the battle field,they ordered cossacks to murder their own people and they watched the russian people die of cold and starvation,while they live in their ivory towers.
eatmypies 2 years ago
i don't see what was gained by killing them
it nearly happened to the greek royals in1922
george the 5th didn't waste time then and one of them was the 22month old prince phillip now duke of edinburgh - george the 5th should have saved them
SCANDIN3 2 years ago
Yes but GEORGE V was a spinneless coward. They could have saved them.
am1966ath 2 years ago
@am1966ath Why do you believe he did not save them ? they were very close .
misteeq64 1 year ago
@misteeq64 @misteeq64 George V was originally going to save them, but then the government intervened and reminded him that the Russians were not very popular in Britain at that time. As the First World War was still going on, they wanted to appease the Bolsheviks as much as possible so Russia wouldn't pull out of the war and allow the whole German army to move from the Eastern Front and possibly win the war.
I hope that helped. :)
miss1927 1 year ago
@miss1927 Other things I couldn't fit in the original reply: I don't think either George or the British government knew that Alexandra and the children would be murdered along with Nicholas (and I'm not sure if they even thought he'd be killed ieither.) With hindsight, I'm pretty sure they would have done something, as Nicky and George were first cousins after all (along with Kaiser Wilhelm.)
miss1927 1 year ago
Actually it was George V's private secretary Lord Stamfordham who persuaded him to change his mind. This was before the Communists had seized power and the Royal Family were not in any danger at all.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Yes George V could have saved them but they should thesmsleves also have seen in what direction it was going...they lived in dreams and illusions.
am1966ath 1 year ago
The Romanovs did not deserve to die. If I controlled history, they would live.
TheYoung450 2 years ago 67
im with u on that....no one deserves such a death....but serial killers and people like Saddam of course.
ABritt06 2 years ago 4
@TheYoung450 Boris Yeltsin, the man of whom the world would hear more, was given the instruction from Moscow of demolishing the Ipatiev House in 1977. He called the murder of Nicholas II and his family an obscenity.
Cool2BCeltic 1 year ago
@TheYoung450
I agree with you, they did not deserve to be murdered so cruelly. I would rather that they had lived, too, but then, would Russia still be on the way to freedom? We will never know.
PiperFreeze06 1 year ago
@TheYoung450 But we cannot control history, you know what would happen if you change history, Back to the future showed it (i'm not joking at all).
WiltatKansas 1 year ago
@TheYoung450 you think the man who controlled the okrana deserved to live?
TheBuckonator 1 year ago
@TheBuckonator it's true Nicholas did some terrible things. but nobody deserves to die the way he and his family did.
sidwellian2012 1 year ago
@TheYoung450 you wouldn't have to control history, just execute instead of exile lenin ;)
CounterStrikeCo 1 year ago
@TheYoung450 They were an amazing and beautiful family that was dealt a bad hand. They loved each other and loved their country. They did not deserve to die the way they did.
ovechkinfanatic4life 11 months ago
@TheYoung450 Tsar Nicholas was not only a brutal dictator, but did absolutely nothing to better the lives of his starving uneducated people. He abused his people, and put my grandfather in solitary confinement 3 times before he was 17 years old. His crime was simply that he verbally expressed his contempt for the Tsar. Luckily, he had a friend who was as a policeman in his area. One night the friend told him of a 4th arrest warrant. He left Russia that night, as they would have killed him .
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 I, for one, am glad your family obviously survived those times. I am sorry you had to endure this, but am glad you did. I did hear him (in the movie) say the people had no right to speak against him and how they would surely die... but they were hungry and protesting injustice. He should have never said it, because in that utterance, he sealed the fate of his own family. Sad.
2441883 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 Under Tsar Nicholas II both the economy and life expectancy rates were growing. Not to mention that thanks to his reforms in the field of eduction by 1914 3/4 of all children were in school. So you cannot claim he did not do anything for the common people. Also he cannot have been a brutal dictator. For many reasons, one of them being that a dictator is an autocratic ruler with NO hereditary legitimacy. When one examines his accomplishments one sees that he was a pretty good ruler.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Pardon my asking for a shred of evidence as to validity of your statistics? Please cite page #'s and reference/URL. As the movie also present Tsar Nicholas as a bloody dictator, presumably you take exception to that as well. BTW. Politically speaking, are you a Facist, or do you simply feel that either Autocratic or Dictatorial rulers like Hitler gave Tsar Nicky a bad name? Opps! Now, you're going to tell me how Hitler did wonders for the Germans & was a nice guy, too!
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 There are numerous sources that confirm such views. However to make your life easier I will direct to one for now. Page 44 of "The Pity of War" by Niall Ferguson. However you could also read the countless statistics and writings by people of the time. However judging by your rabbling I take it that you don't read much. Someone who compares Tsar Nicholas II to Hitler is either attempting humor or has not been blessed with the gift of high intelligence.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago 5
@ImperialRussianGuard Aside from my previous response (below) requesting specific page #'s and references for your unsupported statistics and claims, I could provide hundreds of sources to support my own.Although Wiki is not the best, it will suffice in that it specifically provides specific terms you should know.
Nicholas_II_of_Russia provides the infamous terms "Bloody Nicholas", Bloody Sunday" , "Anti-Jewish pogroms of 1903–1906". You are obviously clueless.
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Just as a rule of thumb, good rulers are not over-thrown. Every one of your claims is absurd. However, the claim that I find the most idiotic is your idea of "the economy" which in fact does NOT refer to the standard of living of the average Russian, but instead refers to the growth of the profits held by the aristocracy that did not "trickle-down" to anyone else. Are you GWB or just as stupid as him?
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 Good rulers are not overthrown ? Emperor Dom Pedro II of Brazil was overthrown at the peak of his popularity. He had lead Brazil successfully through war and under him the economy was blooming.He abolished slavery. Also Caesar was a good ruler but he was betrayed by deceitful men nonetheless. As you can see your theory that good rulers aren't overthrown doesn't stand up. Instead of crying how outraged you are, provide something with substance.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago 2
@TheYoung450 exactly what i sed b4 i started watching this movie. great minds think alike :)
jrst6 8 months ago
Would be lovely to see the widescreen (not panned and scanned) version.
MsCiocia 2 years ago
I feel so sorry for the Tsar. Can you imagine never wanting to rule in the first place, and being told you have to rule the largest nation on earth? Having no idea what your doing and yet being responsible for not only the ppl suffering in your country but responsible for you and your family's brutal death? Your whole life just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. . . .
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 2 years ago 72
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN You feel sorry for "bloody Nicholas" and not for the thousands of peasants he had executed in 1906-08?
When marshal law was proclaimed and traveling courts marshalls began to try rebellious peasants, those condemned to death appealed to Nicholas for mercy. His reply was to order a halt to these appeals. He didn't want to be bothered.
mc0558 1 year ago 2
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN At the end of the day the Tsar was responsible for his own downfall, it could so easily have been avoided through allowing a modernisation of the industrial and agricultural economy - something he was wary of - and by staying out of overseas issues in the Balkans. He never wanted to rule, true, but that does not excuse the incompetence he displayed ruing his time as Tsar.
happyhammer93 1 year ago 2
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Anytime you call out the machine-guns on your own people, you've gone from inept and clueless to straight murder. Nicholas was a murderer, as is nearly every monarch in world history. If revolution be the means of their destruction, I weep little for those who sit at the top of such a tyrannical system. His short moment of suffering was nothing compared to the rivers of blood that stained his hands. Still, it's not cool to kill kids, or even innocent future tyrants.
BBBoggs 11 months ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Save your pity for someone else. Nicholas was an antisemitic shit, and idiot, a murder of peasants. And at that, he was the best of his clan.
mc0558 11 months ago
@mc0558
You're a Jewish aren't you??
ababil13 11 months ago
@ababil13 You are an ignorant, antisemitic piece of shit. If I were Jewish, I certainly wouldn't tell you--the eternal enemy--because I would give you anything but what you deserve--a bullet in you useless skull. If I were not Jewish I would not disassiciate myself from comrads in the eternal battle against racist, Nazi defects like yourself. All you need to know is it is "us" the decent people of this world against you the scumbags of this world. Just please go to hell now where you belong.
mc0558 11 months ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Fortunately, the movie took great pains to overtly state that Tsar Nicholas was a bloody tyrant, and only children, as would be expected, were oblivious to the fact that this family became the richest family in the world, at that time, only because of the suffering of the Russian people. Unlike many other films, this film did NOT sympathizing with the Romanovs, and make out the revolutionaries to be brutes deserving of their past and future suffering..
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 Am I a Fascist ? No, I am a Monarchist. One cannot be both at the same time since they are polar opposites. Historically Fascist detested Monarchists. Since Hitler you brought up Hitler it may interest you to know that he called Monarchists "decadent beings" in Mein Kampf. Monarchists did not like him back since they attempted to assassinate him, led by the aristocrat Claus von Stauffenberg. Hitler in many speeches spoke about the importance of democracy.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago 11
Also when one reads Mein Kampf one can see frequent attacks on the Hapsburgs. Hitler is very critical of Austria-Hungary's ruling dynasty.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Quoting you "Hitler in many speeches spoke about the importance of democracy. "
You're made it clear that you're too stupid to be anything else.
yourtreat2 10 months ago
@yourtreat2 On December 10,1940; Calls himself an Arch Democrat, November,8,1938; calls National Socialism the "truest democracy";January,30,1937; calls National Socialism constitution democratic; In Mein Kampf he writes on p.99 "The truly Germanic democracy with free election of the leader, who is obliged to assume full responsibility for all his actions. This only a few instances of him sharing support for democracy. Similar views can be found among his top advisors such a Goebbels and Hess.
ImperialRussianGuard 10 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Claus von Stauffenberg did attempt to kill Hitler but not becasue he believed in the monarchist cause
truvianni 8 months ago
@truvianni Claus von Stauffenberg, like many of his coconspirators, was a catholic monarchist of aristocratic descent.
ImperialRussianGuard 8 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard he was as that is why he bore the name Von (meaning gentry) yet his cause was not a desire to see a return of the monarchy but a real believe that the only thing worse than a Nazi defeat in the war was a Nazi victory. He was also lucky he was only shot some for the very same conspiracy were hung with piano wire
truvianni 8 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Really? That's interesting, since I never imagined facists would speak of the importance of democracy. What happened to my friend's family wasn't all that democratic.
Karenjadegirl 7 months ago
@Karenjadegirl It is actually not that surprising considering the strong democratic roots of National Socialism. Not only does National Socialism have the democratic ideals of the French Revolution as a basis for many of its ideas, but it only could come to power due the rise of democracy in Europe after the WW1. After all Hitler came to power through the democratic process. I don't know what happened to your friend's family, so I cannot determine whether it was "democratic" or not.
ImperialRussianGuard 7 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard My friend's family members were murdered in the holocaust, so I fail to see anything "democratic" about genocide.
Karenjadegirl 6 months ago
@Karenjadegirl Why do you for some reason believe that democracies don't commit genocide ? Haven't you heard of the Reign of terror ? If you don't think democracies commit genocide then I suggest you look into what happened during the French Revolution. Such barbarism had not been seen since the days of Attila the Hun. And all of it was done in the name of " democratic values". What happened in Vendee was without a doubt genocide. It was also without a doubt "democratic" .
ImperialRussianGuard 6 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard Interesting. Well, there goes my delusion of democracy being 100% perfect for everybody.
Karenjadegirl 6 months ago
@Karenjadegirl I am glad I could help enlighten you.
ImperialRussianGuard 6 months ago
@yourtreat2 Actually, I don't believe this depicts Nicholas as a "bloody tyrant" at all, but as an all-to-human, flawed and mistaken man. I think there's allot of sympathy shown for for him and his family.
On the flip side, although it's true allot of bolshevicks were brutish terrorists and crooks, there's also allot of sympathy shown for those whose poverty drove them to join the party.
Karenjadegirl 6 months ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Couldn't agree more. I blame his father, Alexander III, who never trained him properly.
324wilson 9 months ago
I would've also asked for Nicholas' silence regarding politics in exchange for silence regarding Alexei's condition (unless medically necessary.) The Romanovs could revert to some of Alexandra's old titles through her mother, and keep a low profile at least until after WWII....and then things could get interesting c. 1989!!
shadowkitty56 2 years ago 4
If I could have changed history, I would have wanted the Romanovs to settle in Britain at the grace of His Majesty. They would be given land and title, but they would be allowed to stay ONLY if they do not attempt to take the throne back, i.e., so long as Communism thrives at the Kremlin. CONTD
shadowkitty56 2 years ago
What's really scary, the actor who plays Nicholas really looks like Nicholas (as per his photos and portraits). Casting gets an "A". GREAT sound and picture!
night040 2 years ago 6
just think, if the Romanovs would have escaped to the United States, Nicholas could have used the jewels sewn in the princesses corsets to invest in railroads. He would have become very rich. The imperial family would have been the new Vanderbilts. maybe we would be watching Nicholas' great great great grand children on reality shows on vh1 today.
1brandonfan 2 years ago 6
If this happens, then the Romanov family would have been one of the wealthiest families in the United States! The railroads would be constructed in the European style (such as the air train in France and Great Britain), the European Russian influence would play a major role in American culture today, and the descendants of Nicholas II of Russia would have dominated American politics, social life, and the Hollywood red carpet in today's society.
TheCrystalyorkSenshi 2 years ago
@1brandonfan I am not so sure that would be wise. If there are any lessons to draw from the life of Nicholas, it is that it is not how somebody is born that matters, but what someone is born to be. Nicholas was bred to be an absolute ruler, a czar: traditionally this meant a ruler that governed Russia with an iron fist (Russia was one of the last European countries to abolish serfdom.)
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shadowkitty56 2 years ago
Nicholas, as it turned out, had zero talent for politics or warfare & waged disastrous battles in the Far East, plus he could never see his own people were living in rags while he & the Duma lived like fattened calves. Worse, he wed a woman who was too closely related to him for anybody's good
CONTD
shadowkitty56 2 years ago
and helped propagate the already spreading problem of inbreeding/genetic defect amongst royalty.
shadowkitty56 2 years ago
I read the book, and it's INSANELY long, but it's a pretty good read....if you're into that kinda stuff.
RiffRider90 2 years ago
good movie
southparkstudios00 2 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the music at the beginning? Or is it part of the film them? thanks ;)
PtiteSwiss 2 years ago
@PtiteSwiss it's the original score.
bn279626 2 years ago
@bn279626 ok thank you very much =)
Nice music ^^
PtiteSwiss 2 years ago
Did any one spot Laurance O'liver in this movie?
Holyjerk 2 years ago
Yes, he plays Count Witte; the man who scolds Nicholas in the Imperial office.
VersaillesLaNuit 2 years ago
Merci .. Bocquoe.. vo est Francis?
Holyjerk 2 years ago
Great film
Russian history is fascinating
(Allbeit very bloody)
JONNOG88 2 years ago 5
when tsar and his family died theres no one to take the throne BTW whose the leader of russia now?
PrincessMelody6 2 years ago
lenin and the boulsheviks
rainravenlin 2 years ago