Too bad they couldn't just kill him like they did to Mohammed Gaddafi when he tried this. Poor them, had to print money to pay greedy pigs to testify against him in court. "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes it's laws."
Just currious... Did this man specifically state anywhere that these coins, etc were for collectors purposes only and not legal tender? If so, then he has committed no crime if he did not encourage others use it to purchase goods / services. Correct me if i'm wrong but the constitution states that the Government has the authority to print / coin it's own legal tender, but no where does it state that the citizens can create a competing tender. I'm torn on this issue & rightfully so.
@angiesiege Being prosecuted for counter-fitting money, I believe what he did does not fit the definition -- counterfeit 1) adj. describing a document, particularly money, which is forged or created to look real, and intended to pass for real. 2) v. to criminally forge or print a false copy of money, bonds, or other valuable documents, intending to profit from the falsity. 3) n. shorthand for phoney money passed for real. -- unless they are accusing him of authorizing the use of "fake money"!
@angiesiege I could be wrong in either case because I don't really know the whole story.
I agree that this government has taken liberties it should never have been allowed to! It's a shame that we have so many apathetic and ignorant people in America that seem content to sit back and watch our Gov demolish our constitution and our rights right along with it!
The Dollar is being forced into collapse by design. Since the Dollar is the world's currency for commodity trading, the USA's largest export to most countries is inflation. The banking cartel is issuing paper & debt in exchange for silver, gold, oil, military partnering, etc. Their ultimate goal is to reign in the sovereignty and independence of their trading partners, buy out their governments, and roll out the New World Order. Silver IS currency & so is food, gold, gunpowder, medicine etc..
When as Humans are we going to say enough is enough?
Protest right in front the Jail and Unite. To act when something is wrong is to have Empathy and Love. The justice Department works with the Governments which works with the Banksters which work for the ILLUMINATI and you see THEY ARE NOT WORKING FOR YOU my Dear Friends.
You want Peace and Love and Empathy and just Live in a United World but They want War,Hatred,Division and MONEY..YOUR MONEY..OUR MONEY
These silver rounds are no different than a WalMart gift card. At some point dollars were use to buy the materials, equipment, and labor to make them. They could be legally sold for dollars so why not a chicken dinner? Because the government wants to enslave us with taxes. They tax the same dollar over and over and over until it's worthless.
AMERICAS SYSTEM AND BRITIANS AND THE WESTERN WORLDS IS REALLY STARTIN TO DISGUST ME , WHAT THAT MAN DONE IS CONSITUTIONALLY LEGAL END OF HOW CAN THEY DO THIS WELL I TELL U . ' EVIL PREVAILS WEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING
"The land of the free" it doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore. My deepest sympathy's to everyone in the U.S. Even our shitty government recognizes silver as money, there was a recent $20 silver coin minted the ad said.
"This new Canadian silver commemorative coin is legal tender with a value of $20. It is available for the official price of only $20. You simply exchange $20 from your wallet for a $20 coin of pure 99.99% silver.
You all in the U.S. better do something to STOP this!
Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. (or similar)
US (Satan) Code can kiss my ass. Every inch of motion a natural human can make is "prohibited" or "a feloney" in that blasted book of evil. Can you believe that, ink on a page written by no one knows and for sure not representative of its civil slaves people claiming to control you like a child.
The problem was the way he advertised it as a "competing currency", "coin", and the deception he instructed merchants to use to mix the "coins" in with the change given to customers unbeknownst to the customers.
Had he used different tactics and verbiage, there would be no issue as other corporations, states, localities, and communities have barter of tangible goods and scripts based on precious metals.
The movement is blowing this way out of porportion and stripping out the meat of the case.
This is nothing more than the Knights of Malta controlled The Worshipful Company of International Bankers out to protect their fiat currency at the moment whilst trying to steal more wealth from the common man through the corrupt Court system totally controlled by the Inns of Court in London controlling the BAR assoc. May I remind you that U.S Federal Judges are paid by the Inns of Court & not the U.S Government. The later only prints the pay cheques and dances to the tune of the Crown Agents!
What happend to this jury??? It was set up....Real Americans were not picked for this jury...We should fight for this Man's Rights and OURS TOO!!!!!! This Government has gone way to far with this Case!! The real counterfiters don'r want any competition!!We are dealing with n out of control dictatorship!!
What happend to this jury??? It was set up....Real Americans were not picked for this jury...We should fight for this Man's Rights and OURS TOO!!!!!! This Government has gone way to far with this Case!!
come on our dollor is going in the shitter and when someone creats something to replace it he gets throne in jail if this dosnt say our goverment is crashing the dollar on perpose than i dont know what dose.
@Figo1121 Actually, that responsibility falls to congress (not the president) per Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution- "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;” Unfortunately, Congress has passed the responsibility of regulating the value of the money to the private, for profit corporation known as the Federal Reserve. Unlike the Liberty Dollar, the federal reserve notes have no intrinsic value.
I think where Bernard got in trouble was he created a coin that looked like U.S. currency and promoted it as replacing U.S. currency. Technically that power belongs to congress. However, today a private banking cartel creates all the money not congress. So I don't know why the courts don't put them in jail for the same crime? A "Federal Reserve Note" IS NOT created by the U.S. Government and therefore it's NOT U.S. currency. It's all been a ponzi fraud since 1913.
Remember Ron Paul is in truth fully controlled by the Senior Executive Service regardless what you think. Study who controls the U.S. Government and you'll find these and the National Academy of Public Administration. Now study the power of Kristine Marcy, the handler of Hillary Clinton within these organisations. Now study how the Knights of the Virgin Mary IHS trained Kristine Marcy at Georgetown 'military fortress' University in FOREIGN policy. She's a Papist swine for the Knights of Malta
In the United Kingdom corporation I suggest those people involved with Capital Gains Tax use Gold Sovereigns, Gold Britannias and Silver Britannias as they're legal tender sterling and exempt from this wicked tax. Fight the system commercially any other way isn't worth jack. The Universal Postal Union must be defeated along with its master that wicked Knights of Malta and their The Crown.
What Law? There is no true law against currencies. The Federal Reserve Notes are not U.S. legal tender and merely chattel currency which is worthless and goes against the Constitution of the united states of America. The currency currently used by the sheep of the U.S. is monopoly currency & fraudulent including TREASONOUS. Study how the IMF,BIS, Federal Reserve & Bank of England are all controlled by the UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNION in Berne, Switzerland controlled by THE CROWN (KNIGHTS OF MALTA)
This is a lie. Trade your Gold or Silver for Anything you want, any time you want. Just Google Stores or businness that accept gold or silver. You'll be surprised.Utah right now are trying to pass laws to use gold and silver. Colorado and Montana have been trading like this for years.
I found the law. 18 U.S.C. § 486 : US Code - Section 486: Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal.// Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title
It's considered an act of terrorism, because counterfeit money threatens our national security. It doesn't matter what we think. The Banks run the show.
Here was the problem with the jury. For 7 days you brought testimony that shook their sense of security, you made them look at money, MONEY and feel doubt!! America has a HUGE love for money, for most it's all they love, and you TRIED TO TAKE THAT AWAY!! You tried to teach them about FIAT currency and they REJECTED the idea that there could be ANYTHING wrong with our current system. They felt deep FEAR when they considered that possibility and HATED Bernard for making them feel unsafe.
@AtlasHBS It had more to do with it being a rigged jury. Do you think the people who control our fake money supply would just leave the future of their power up to 12 strangers???????
See why I fear setting foot on US soil again? My first trip back to my home in 10 years in June '10 scared me so much, shuffling zombies, I left after 2 nights! I fear being grabbed for conspiracy against the US -- I vlog! I won't even go into the US Consulate here -- I am disabled, cannot bring in water to take my meds while I wait, no toilet available now. Can't get the IRS to mail me a tax return -- their online site doesn't work in France for filing. Wrote, since last year, no answer.
@pdxeddie1111 counterfeit 1) adj. describing a document, particularly money, which is forged or created to look real, and intended to pass for real. 2) v. to criminally forge or print a false copy of money, bonds, or other valuable documents, intending to profit from the falsity. 3) n. shorthand for phoney money passed for real
@Dt0x75 You're just trolling. You're probably the frickin prosecutor's gay lover. No one needs permission to create currency, you dumbass. The Constitution is to set limits for the government, not people. You don't even understand how the illegitimate government works, let alone how real freedom works. You're a stupid person with no real value. I wouldn't save you from drowning.
@LibertarianBiker - The provision of the Constitution [USCA Const. Art. 1, §10, cl. 1] which mandates that no state shall make anything but gold or silver coin tender in payment of debts acts only to remove from states inherent soverign power to declare currency, thus leaving Congress as the sole declarant of what constitutes legal tender; the provision does not require states to accept only gold and silver as tender ... Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender for any debt or public charge.
@sfiorare - They were just coming off of the unbacked fiat currency disaster know as the 'Continental' This part of Article 1 section 10 is written to ensure that if the federal government ever came up with such a thing again, the states would be required to refuse it, thereby ensuring its demise. By setting the states against it, the provision creates multiple attackers against such a scam as opposed to simply prohibiting it by the union. The Liberty Dollar is the currency they envisioned.
@sfiorare - Thank you for the reasoned reply. I see it differently though. My interpretation of article 1 section 10 is whenever a state accepts something as a payment of debt, it makes the thing that they are accepting 'a tender in payment of debt' if the thing they are accepting is not gold or silver coin or certificates convertible for a set quantity of such, they are in violation of the constitution. This fits with the historical context of the framers of the constitution.
as federal court makes clear in U.S. v. Rifen, 577 F.2d 1111. C.A.Mo. 1978: The United States Constitution prohibits states from declaring legal tender anything other than gold or silver but does not limit Congress' power to declare what shall be legal tender for all debts; Coinage Act of 1965, §102, 31 USCA §392; USCA Const. Art. 1, §10.
@sfiorare The coinage act of 1965 is what removed the noble metal content from U.S. money. The court errored in its interpretation of the constitution on this question. The founders of the U.S. and the framers of the constitution intended that citizens retain true intrinsic wealth in their money. If this were not the case why was silver and gold used in coinage for so many years? Why not just start out with an unbacked fiat currency? It's quicker, easier and cheaper to produce.
@LibertarianBiker - gold, silver & other volatile commodities were used as money for long periods because people didn't understand that there was a better way
you're mistaken about the founding fathers' intentions
it's clear the intent of the founders was to prohibit the states from issuing paper money, it's not clear whether the same intent applied to the congress
“the clause granting to congress the power to emit bills was stricken out, and no prohibition was laid"
@sfiorare So, people used gold and silver as money because they didn't know about unbacked fiat money and the many benefits of it? Had they forgotten about the continental currency of the 1770s? If, as you've indicated, Article 1 Section 10 was written only to preclude the states from making something a tender in payment of debt, then why was gold and silver excluded? Why not just write "No state shall make any Thing a tender in payment of debts". just curious.
@LibertarianBiker - your question is ridiculous; although there was a concern of paper issues, there was a stronger concern of too narrowly limiting the powers of the new legislature and that there was neither a very definite nor a unanimous opinion as to the effect of striking out the clause or as to the extent of the power granted
people in 1770 didn't understand economics very well or how to balance the money supply with the demand for money, monetarism is a recent innovation
@sfiorare monetarism is a recent innovation <---- are you serious??? Please educate yourself. We're repeating the mistakes of the past. The people who founded our nation knew very well what monetary policies worked. Seeing comments like yours is like having a motorist explain to the mechanic that gasoline is all that matters to an engine. Please study history,
@crispymidget - your stupidity is amazing, i studied economics and finance at university for many years, i have an advanced degree and i've managed my own successful businesses for decades
current understandings of monetarism weren't really developed until the late 1940's
read 'A Monetary History of the United States, 1867-1960' by milton friedman
you realize that g4t is a scammer and the nia is a scam operation, right?
@sfiorare What's ridiculous about my question? You've indicated that Article 1 Section 10 "acts only to remove from states inherent soverign power to declare currency". If that's the only purpose of the clause, and the framers wanted to ensure that the powers of the new legislature were not limited, Wouldn't it have served the purpose that you attribute to it better to simply read "No state shall make any Thing a tender in payment of debts" this would ensure no competition from the states.
@LibertarianBiker - it's ridiculous because states have to pay for goods and services with something
the authors of the constitution knew the 'revolutionary war' was financed by paper money and the need for it might arise again
if you want to understand what the founders of this country discussed, considered and wrote on the subject, i suggest you read this book, from which i've already made references:
'Legal Tender: A Study in English and American Monetary History' by S.P. Breckenridge
@LibertarianBiker@sfiorare Are you guys familiar with bankers of the past??? The origins of notes that could be traded for real gold??? Research that.
@crispymidget - did you realize that in 1971 the british ambassador showed up at the united states' treasury dept to request that $3 billion be converted into gold?
Why do you consider gold and silver volatile commodities? Gold has retained its value for 2000 years. You are confusing the volatility of paper money with the stability of precious metals. Gold and silver aren't becoming more valuable, the paper money that precious metals are priced in is becoming less valuable. This is basic supply and demand economics and you are trying to confuse people deliberately.
It makes no sense that gold would be volatile, we know how much is being mined, its not consumed for the most part, so I think the only thing thats volatile is the currency that gold is priced in, that would make a helluva lot more sense, especially considering the charts run inversely almost precisely. Although we may very well see a lot more of gold going up no matter what the dollar does because of world wide devaluation.
@jjrglobal - it makes no sense to idiots like you that don't understand basic economics, the fact is that gold has an inelastic supply, when demand surpasses supply, gold producers can't quickly increase production, so prices go up
in the early 1980's, gold's price decreased from over $800 to under $300, if it was the dollar that's volatile, then all good's and service prices would have decreased similarly, but they didn't because gold & silver are volatile commodities
In the 1980's interest rates were raised to unbelievable levels. You cant take one episode in history and use that as proof. Over time gold is much more stable
"Even veteran Doug Casey won't look at the daily price of gold. He will look at the weekly and monthly movements. And if there's a big price jog in a day, we might discuss it – but again, we try not to ascribe too much meaning to the daily fluctuations. Gold is a volatile commodity, and the gold stocks, of course, are the most volatile stocks on Earth. One single buyer can move these markets. You have to, just for your own sanity, pull back and have a bigger picture view."
@sfiorare Which is a reprint of an article originally from marketoracle.co.uk/Article22248.html entitled "How to Own Physical and Paper Gold as Trend Continues Towards $1500" , there's a gigantic link at the bottom. I'd say you're an illiterate retard, but that's be an insult to retards because they can actually read. The person you quoted also says "if those were my only two choices, I would put 100% of that in gold.".
@sfiorare notice how he follows up and say he'd rather invest 100% of his own money in gold you daft cunt. As he explains, daily fluctuations in prices doesn't mean shit to learn term trends and longer term trends points to gold priced higher in dollars. You can't even discern a reprint of an article from another website that clear in big blue fucking letters leads you directly to the original. You got Alzheimer. Seek help.
@MoneyIsSilver The Bureau of Printing and Engraving handles the creation of the currency..... In case you dont know what that is.... Its the US Treasury.... Oh its in the Constitution....The thing you seem to know.....Well you think you know anyway....
@Dt0x75 Tell you what, dummy, you keep saving up those Fed Notes, ok? You keep using those while I use digital silver, physical silver, and other online currencies.
I'll let the graphs that compare my "illegal" money to your enslavement notes speak for themselves.
@MoneyIsSilver Get off this slave mentality... Freedom is just a state of mind....Now....If you wish to end up in prison by all means print what ever the hell it is you want, but dont have anyone come crying to youtube for help because you cant follow a simple fucking law.
@Dt0x75 You're a slave if you accept worthless pieces of paper for your time and labor. You have no control over the outcome of your life - that has nothing to do with your frame of mind. Now, apparently YOUR frame of mind is to deny the reality around you. You can fool yourself that you're free, but you're just sucking off the man's weenie.
@MoneyIsSilver lol... ok... lets play this game then maybe you will understand something... Say we were still on the Gold standard.... You show me where there is a single gold mine....that can support the size of this economy......Find me one mine that can sustain this. There isnt enough gold or silver (since silver is more rare) that can support the US economy.... You wanna go back on the gold standard fine...but expect a loaf of bread to cost you $150
@Dt0x75 I'm not getting sucked into dumb arguments that have been refuted decades ago. Read Rothbard if you want to know why the whole "not enough gold" argument is stupid as hell.
@MoneyIsSilver Look... I (like i said earlier to George) dont like the current system anymore than you, but face facts here... they have a set of rules and we must play by these rules....until something changes. Corruption follows a trend that its alway followed... It rises and collapses...not from the outside, but always from the inside. You can fight it all you want, but unless everyone does it....It will continue....Which is impossible so play the game until it falls apart...
@Dt0x75 You do realize that you are way beyond proving to me that your an idiot, right? I mean, you're a grade a, certified jackass of the highest order.
@pdxeddie1111 Their videos even state that you can take these Liberty Dollars and spend them. They even state to tell the business its a new coin if they refuse to accept it.... See it now?
@Dt0x75 ya I see what you mean but it was really just a technicality more than anything else. He shouldnt have said "new" as if it was backed by the approval of the government. We live in a fascist country where you can only compete with corporations that are approved and the fed isnt one of them
@pdxeddie1111 The only ones with the power to coin money is the Treasury through the Congress. Idk where this moron (MoneyIsSilver) gets this idea that the avg American can. Hes obviously never read Art. 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
This video brought me to tears!! I am so fucking mad right now! This country is doomed! The federal Government is the biggest felon for defying the US constitution. Article 1 Section 10: Nothing but Gold and Silver to be used as a tender in payment! Yet we are stuck with this green toilet paper! So basically all us Silver stackers cannot use our silver to trade for anything?...its basically worthless huh? What can we do? I need a shot of tequila!!
@LetsgetphysicalAg Get a grip. USA is pretty much dying right now, so you can stop peeing your pants about them. I do trades with silver all the time. The government and its goons are just people, and dumb ones at that.
Bernard Von Nothaus. Why are you in jail? I printed silver medallions! The question I have is this. In order for a man to be guilty of a crime there must be an injured party. Has anyone that has contracted with Bernard ever been injured? If so speak up and be counted as you are among a very few.
@Tonkadude1001 I know I've been injured by these Fed fuckers - they stole my silver, and now they're threatening to throw my friend in a cage.
the thing they don't realize, is that the party from them is OVER. The FRN is OVER. They cannot stop crypto-anarchy. May God have mercy on their souls, because we won't.
We Rule Them. Barter away folks or Show me a LAW against Bartering. Dont let them scare you. We should scare them by voting every one of the crooked Bastards OUT.
@hotheadedjoelhaha Bartering is perfectly legal. You just need to declare the proceeds of the exchange on your tax form. I think the IRS requires form 1099-B when you file.
What shall we do? We shall Trade Anything We Want FOR ANYTHING WE WANT! There is No Law against Bartering! This Country has a Cancer That Cant be cured. Screw them, Barter Away -Everyone! They cant stop you, let em try!
I am from Evansville, Indiana where he is from and opened his first store. I had Liberty dollars, and we were able to use them here with the local businesses where we always got a great deal. Lots of businesses here encouraged the use of the dollars. It's such a shame this had to happen to him and we Americans as a whole.
@nhralph The Fed can't do shyte about Bitcoins...or loom, or the hundreds of other alternative currencies that have sprung up while the Fed was chasing Bernard.
You are only sentenced and go to jail if you agree to be sentenced and sent to jail. People are in jail by choice, that's a fact. The agreement of the parties is the law of the contract. If a liability is created and performance is made to cure the liability then there is no longer a liability or a controversy. Mr Von Not Haus needs to tender a private bond for the indemnity of the court, the cause, the statutes charged, the prosecutor and the judge. Then there is balance and he is free.
@MrRiceowlex I'm guessing the Federal Government isn't going to recognize "Sovereign Citizen" status. It's never worked for ANYONE else. Even if your UCC-1 is pristine and you're an SPC in a non-hostile, non-belligerent, non-adverse position, you'll still be getting a cavity search.
@celticlite Has nothing to do with Sovereignty, it's about tendering the bond. The FEDS do understand how they're funded. There is no public money unless it's signed into existence by the private side. This
is why all judges (bankers) are capable of doing conversion. If you've ever signed a promissory note for a bank you know what I'm talking about.
@MoneyIsSilver Ok but maybe he shouldn't. After all, you can't make up a "private currency". The guy ought to just have bought gold and silver and maybe started his own investment advisory. Otherwise this is what happens when you try to have people buying and selling in another currency. We're not at some emergency collapse of society and buying some new currency notes is NOT barter. If you want to barter, then just do that.
@onemindonespirit "After all, you can't make up a "private currency""
That sounds dumb considering that's exactly what he, and many others have done. What the idiots in the gov think really doesn't matter anymore - they're irrelevant criminals at this point.
@MoneyIsSilver It's a pipe dream, man. Better to just get out of the dollar and if you want, barter with the actual items, not some guy's (and I don't mean that disrespectfully) made up currency. I get that this is what the gov does too--make something up. The difference is that this guy's system is actually backed by something. Now are you seriously going to think that doing so wouldn't get him in trouble? Stay the hell under the radar and be prepared to come out on top after the crash.
@onemindonespirit You couldn't be more wrong. All the Feds did was bust the 'Napster' of the movement, but they ain't coming close to stopping the downloading...lol. Just like the RIAA found out that hundreds of Napster replacements had sprung up while they were dealing with Napster, hundreds of currency alternatives are springing up. You might want to check out bitcoin or pecunix.
@MoneyIsSilver Ok then, well you go right ahead and make your own dollar backed by silver or whatever else and see what happens to you if your business gets big enough.
@FaithLoveHopeLiberty to me he is just a control system to guide those who would normally think for themselves and do something to just have them follow him to nowhere as you stated so in the end nothing really is done or changed...
Voting these Fascists out of office is NOT a solution, they will only be replaced with different Fascists! Raw revolt of the masses is the only thing that will affect change! As for Ron Paul, he has turned out to be a total coward now that he's Chairman of the Financial Services Committee!
@MoneyIsSilver If you're refering to pre-decimal British coins or fractional pieces of precious metal coins, yes of course, but those aren't "legal tender" so I fail to see your point!
@MoneyIsSilver Look... This idiot was charged with counterfeiting... He was SELLING these coins AS LEGAL US tender.... Which they are not.... God you cannot be this fucking stupid... ive tried being polite to you, but thats finished. Read the list of charges on him prior to conviction... He SAID they were from the Government....
@MoneyIsSilver The funny thing about people like YOU are you're the real "dummy" when you have to resort to insults when you are the one who really has NO clue WFT you're talking about. You better do you own "google" search numbnuts because I'm right!!
Federal Reserve cash is the fake, counterfeit currency for two reasons: a private bank profits from the creation of it by charging interest on it - they create book entries and charge interest on them. A private bank controls the amount of Fed cash in circulation, expanding and contracting the supply causing boom and bust cycles. What a way to play the stock market, if you’re an insider.
@sdfkjllshadflhadfshl NO he wouldn't, he'd cower in a corner just like he's done about the FED now that he's Chairman of the Financial Service Committee!!
Bernard, you are a hero. You went about this the wrong way. You did bring attention to the most serious issue on the planet though. You threatened the ability of the Power Elite Banking Families to profit from the creation of currency, and their ability to control the economy. For one, you can't combine repeal of the IRS code with monetary reform, that threatens law enforcement/judicial income. You will be free, and everyone involved in your conviction will be in jail.
@philoplatt Think of Liberty Dollar as the 'Napster' of alternative currencies. While the RIAA spent years shutting down Napster in court, a few hundred other download utilities popped up.
The same is happening with private currency - especially online. Check out Bitcoins and crypto-currency
Too bad they couldn't just kill him like they did to Mohammed Gaddafi when he tried this. Poor them, had to print money to pay greedy pigs to testify against him in court. "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes it's laws."
George4107969 23 hours ago
Just currious... Did this man specifically state anywhere that these coins, etc were for collectors purposes only and not legal tender? If so, then he has committed no crime if he did not encourage others use it to purchase goods / services. Correct me if i'm wrong but the constitution states that the Government has the authority to print / coin it's own legal tender, but no where does it state that the citizens can create a competing tender. I'm torn on this issue & rightfully so.
angiesiege 3 weeks ago
@angiesiege Being prosecuted for counter-fitting money, I believe what he did does not fit the definition -- counterfeit 1) adj. describing a document, particularly money, which is forged or created to look real, and intended to pass for real. 2) v. to criminally forge or print a false copy of money, bonds, or other valuable documents, intending to profit from the falsity. 3) n. shorthand for phoney money passed for real. -- unless they are accusing him of authorizing the use of "fake money"!
angiesiege 3 weeks ago
@angiesiege I could be wrong in either case because I don't really know the whole story.
I agree that this government has taken liberties it should never have been allowed to! It's a shame that we have so many apathetic and ignorant people in America that seem content to sit back and watch our Gov demolish our constitution and our rights right along with it!
angiesiege 3 weeks ago
@angiesiege
That's why our controllers love Dumocracy.
ChilesGreen 2 weeks ago
The Dollar is being forced into collapse by design. Since the Dollar is the world's currency for commodity trading, the USA's largest export to most countries is inflation. The banking cartel is issuing paper & debt in exchange for silver, gold, oil, military partnering, etc. Their ultimate goal is to reign in the sovereignty and independence of their trading partners, buy out their governments, and roll out the New World Order. Silver IS currency & so is food, gold, gunpowder, medicine etc..
altgeldrarities 4 weeks ago
Domestic Terrorist! O_o
MistaChubbz1 6 months ago
this is bull crap!! an innocent man going to jail for nothing.. come on america
TEAMMUSICRECORDS 7 months ago
Chuck-E-Cheese's by that Logic is a Terrorist organization! How many tokens have you traded for prizes?!
tranceemerson 7 months ago 3
Adding liberty dollar to my stack.
Anothercoilgun 10 months ago
All 3, the judge, the attorney, and the jury, are a bunch of brain washed sorry fools.
Anothercoilgun 10 months ago
When as Humans are we going to say enough is enough?
Protest right in front the Jail and Unite. To act when something is wrong is to have Empathy and Love. The justice Department works with the Governments which works with the Banksters which work for the ILLUMINATI and you see THEY ARE NOT WORKING FOR YOU my Dear Friends.
You want Peace and Love and Empathy and just Live in a United World but They want War,Hatred,Division and MONEY..YOUR MONEY..OUR MONEY
Have Love in your Heart.ACT NOW
LOVE
bridaks 10 months ago
These silver rounds are no different than a WalMart gift card. At some point dollars were use to buy the materials, equipment, and labor to make them. They could be legally sold for dollars so why not a chicken dinner? Because the government wants to enslave us with taxes. They tax the same dollar over and over and over until it's worthless.
vtcpdx 10 months ago 3
EVERYONE WATCH JOHN HARRIS TO REALLY LEARN HOW TO NOT GO TO JAIL ,
giroyagetme 10 months ago
AMERICAS SYSTEM AND BRITIANS AND THE WESTERN WORLDS IS REALLY STARTIN TO DISGUST ME , WHAT THAT MAN DONE IS CONSITUTIONALLY LEGAL END OF HOW CAN THEY DO THIS WELL I TELL U . ' EVIL PREVAILS WEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING
giroyagetme 10 months ago
Have to laugh at that comment "financial people that have a sense of integrity" Who? Where? When?
mrgrogfather 10 months ago
"The land of the free" it doesn't apply to the U.S. anymore. My deepest sympathy's to everyone in the U.S. Even our shitty government recognizes silver as money, there was a recent $20 silver coin minted the ad said.
"This new Canadian silver commemorative coin is legal tender with a value of $20. It is available for the official price of only $20. You simply exchange $20 from your wallet for a $20 coin of pure 99.99% silver.
You all in the U.S. better do something to STOP this!
D33Lux 10 months ago
US Code - TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 25 > § 486
Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal
Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. (or similar)
bodyheals 10 months ago
@bodyheals
US (Satan) Code can kiss my ass. Every inch of motion a natural human can make is "prohibited" or "a feloney" in that blasted book of evil. Can you believe that, ink on a page written by no one knows and for sure not representative of its civil slaves people claiming to control you like a child.
Anothercoilgun 10 months ago
The problem was the way he advertised it as a "competing currency", "coin", and the deception he instructed merchants to use to mix the "coins" in with the change given to customers unbeknownst to the customers.
Had he used different tactics and verbiage, there would be no issue as other corporations, states, localities, and communities have barter of tangible goods and scripts based on precious metals.
The movement is blowing this way out of porportion and stripping out the meat of the case.
bind1967 11 months ago
This is nothing more than the Knights of Malta controlled The Worshipful Company of International Bankers out to protect their fiat currency at the moment whilst trying to steal more wealth from the common man through the corrupt Court system totally controlled by the Inns of Court in London controlling the BAR assoc. May I remind you that U.S Federal Judges are paid by the Inns of Court & not the U.S Government. The later only prints the pay cheques and dances to the tune of the Crown Agents!
anunnaki2006 11 months ago
What happend to this jury??? It was set up....Real Americans were not picked for this jury...We should fight for this Man's Rights and OURS TOO!!!!!! This Government has gone way to far with this Case!! The real counterfiters don'r want any competition!!We are dealing with n out of control dictatorship!!
mikellv7 11 months ago 12
What happend to this jury??? It was set up....Real Americans were not picked for this jury...We should fight for this Man's Rights and OURS TOO!!!!!! This Government has gone way to far with this Case!!
mikellv7 11 months ago 5
come on our dollor is going in the shitter and when someone creats something to replace it he gets throne in jail if this dosnt say our goverment is crashing the dollar on perpose than i dont know what dose.
sixwingproductions 11 months ago 2
yet they won't investigate the usurpation of the office of the President of the US by a foreigner.
Donnybrook10 11 months ago
@Figo1121 Actually, that responsibility falls to congress (not the president) per Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution- "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;” Unfortunately, Congress has passed the responsibility of regulating the value of the money to the private, for profit corporation known as the Federal Reserve. Unlike the Liberty Dollar, the federal reserve notes have no intrinsic value.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
I think where Bernard got in trouble was he created a coin that looked like U.S. currency and promoted it as replacing U.S. currency. Technically that power belongs to congress. However, today a private banking cartel creates all the money not congress. So I don't know why the courts don't put them in jail for the same crime? A "Federal Reserve Note" IS NOT created by the U.S. Government and therefore it's NOT U.S. currency. It's all been a ponzi fraud since 1913.
rockthecityatnight 11 months ago
Remember Ron Paul is in truth fully controlled by the Senior Executive Service regardless what you think. Study who controls the U.S. Government and you'll find these and the National Academy of Public Administration. Now study the power of Kristine Marcy, the handler of Hillary Clinton within these organisations. Now study how the Knights of the Virgin Mary IHS trained Kristine Marcy at Georgetown 'military fortress' University in FOREIGN policy. She's a Papist swine for the Knights of Malta
anunnaki2006 11 months ago
In the United Kingdom corporation I suggest those people involved with Capital Gains Tax use Gold Sovereigns, Gold Britannias and Silver Britannias as they're legal tender sterling and exempt from this wicked tax. Fight the system commercially any other way isn't worth jack. The Universal Postal Union must be defeated along with its master that wicked Knights of Malta and their The Crown.
anunnaki2006 11 months ago
What Law? There is no true law against currencies. The Federal Reserve Notes are not U.S. legal tender and merely chattel currency which is worthless and goes against the Constitution of the united states of America. The currency currently used by the sheep of the U.S. is monopoly currency & fraudulent including TREASONOUS. Study how the IMF,BIS, Federal Reserve & Bank of England are all controlled by the UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNION in Berne, Switzerland controlled by THE CROWN (KNIGHTS OF MALTA)
anunnaki2006 11 months ago
Aspen, CO hasa silver 'currency' which has MSRP $50 on it - so it is not worth $50, but gets round the stupid-ass laws!
electroweak02 11 months ago
@electroweak02 What else is in that area? You guessed it ASPEN INSTITUTE working for the Knights of Malta and their The Crown commercial system.
anunnaki2006 11 months ago
So what does this meanexactly for folks that own physical silver and gold rounds, bullion and bars???
TheShadowShow00 11 months ago
This is a lie. Trade your Gold or Silver for Anything you want, any time you want. Just Google Stores or businness that accept gold or silver. You'll be surprised.Utah right now are trying to pass laws to use gold and silver. Colorado and Montana have been trading like this for years.
hotheadedjoelhaha 11 months ago
I found the law. 18 U.S.C. § 486 : US Code - Section 486: Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal.// Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title
westin1985 11 months ago
i'm ready for this corupt union to fail.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
It's considered an act of terrorism, because counterfeit money threatens our national security. It doesn't matter what we think. The Banks run the show.
ryonmc53184 11 months ago
that was sarcasm btw
dx11101 11 months ago
Yeah and all you preppers buying bullion, YOUR NEXT
dx11101 11 months ago
Is there a diference in law between using the silver coin as an alternative currency, and using the silver content of the coin for barter?
gardentor 11 months ago
@george4title can you turn up the volume on dramatic music at the end when you put away you silver rounds ?
gasdorf 11 months ago
George talk with RT about this story. Also what judge Napolitano from Fox news would say about this?
Alexiscom1 11 months ago
get your gunss ready to stop the rot
rolficus 11 months ago
spoooky music. wooooooooo lol. This guy is fun for a laugh
Bigbird5553 11 months ago
Here was the problem with the jury. For 7 days you brought testimony that shook their sense of security, you made them look at money, MONEY and feel doubt!! America has a HUGE love for money, for most it's all they love, and you TRIED TO TAKE THAT AWAY!! You tried to teach them about FIAT currency and they REJECTED the idea that there could be ANYTHING wrong with our current system. They felt deep FEAR when they considered that possibility and HATED Bernard for making them feel unsafe.
AtlasHBS 11 months ago
@AtlasHBS It had more to do with it being a rigged jury. Do you think the people who control our fake money supply would just leave the future of their power up to 12 strangers???????
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
See why I fear setting foot on US soil again? My first trip back to my home in 10 years in June '10 scared me so much, shuffling zombies, I left after 2 nights! I fear being grabbed for conspiracy against the US -- I vlog! I won't even go into the US Consulate here -- I am disabled, cannot bring in water to take my meds while I wait, no toilet available now. Can't get the IRS to mail me a tax return -- their online site doesn't work in France for filing. Wrote, since last year, no answer.
slobomotion 11 months ago
how can he be convicted of counterfeiting when the dollars dont even look like copies?
pdxeddie1111 11 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 counterfeit 1) adj. describing a document, particularly money, which is forged or created to look real, and intended to pass for real. 2) v. to criminally forge or print a false copy of money, bonds, or other valuable documents, intending to profit from the falsity. 3) n. shorthand for phoney money passed for real
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 You're just trolling. You're probably the frickin prosecutor's gay lover. No one needs permission to create currency, you dumbass. The Constitution is to set limits for the government, not people. You don't even understand how the illegitimate government works, let alone how real freedom works. You're a stupid person with no real value. I wouldn't save you from drowning.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Trolling? Im staying on topic...idiot.... You cannot make your own currency... Well... Your American education is showing...
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 You're a galactic dipshit.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Now whos trolling?...Obvious troll is obvious..... Read Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution please.
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 Read Article 1 Section 10 and explain to me why your state accepts federal reserve notes as a tender in payment of debt.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker - The provision of the Constitution [USCA Const. Art. 1, §10, cl. 1] which mandates that no state shall make anything but gold or silver coin tender in payment of debts acts only to remove from states inherent soverign power to declare currency, thus leaving Congress as the sole declarant of what constitutes legal tender; the provision does not require states to accept only gold and silver as tender ... Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender for any debt or public charge.
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare - They were just coming off of the unbacked fiat currency disaster know as the 'Continental' This part of Article 1 section 10 is written to ensure that if the federal government ever came up with such a thing again, the states would be required to refuse it, thereby ensuring its demise. By setting the states against it, the provision creates multiple attackers against such a scam as opposed to simply prohibiting it by the union. The Liberty Dollar is the currency they envisioned.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@sfiorare - Thank you for the reasoned reply. I see it differently though. My interpretation of article 1 section 10 is whenever a state accepts something as a payment of debt, it makes the thing that they are accepting 'a tender in payment of debt' if the thing they are accepting is not gold or silver coin or certificates convertible for a set quantity of such, they are in violation of the constitution. This fits with the historical context of the framers of the constitution.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker - you're misinterpreting
as federal court makes clear in U.S. v. Rifen, 577 F.2d 1111. C.A.Mo. 1978: The United States Constitution prohibits states from declaring legal tender anything other than gold or silver but does not limit Congress' power to declare what shall be legal tender for all debts; Coinage Act of 1965, §102, 31 USCA §392; USCA Const. Art. 1, §10.
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare The coinage act of 1965 is what removed the noble metal content from U.S. money. The court errored in its interpretation of the constitution on this question. The founders of the U.S. and the framers of the constitution intended that citizens retain true intrinsic wealth in their money. If this were not the case why was silver and gold used in coinage for so many years? Why not just start out with an unbacked fiat currency? It's quicker, easier and cheaper to produce.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker - gold, silver & other volatile commodities were used as money for long periods because people didn't understand that there was a better way
you're mistaken about the founding fathers' intentions
it's clear the intent of the founders was to prohibit the states from issuing paper money, it's not clear whether the same intent applied to the congress
“the clause granting to congress the power to emit bills was stricken out, and no prohibition was laid"
s.p. breckenridge
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare So, people used gold and silver as money because they didn't know about unbacked fiat money and the many benefits of it? Had they forgotten about the continental currency of the 1770s? If, as you've indicated, Article 1 Section 10 was written only to preclude the states from making something a tender in payment of debt, then why was gold and silver excluded? Why not just write "No state shall make any Thing a tender in payment of debts". just curious.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker - your question is ridiculous; although there was a concern of paper issues, there was a stronger concern of too narrowly limiting the powers of the new legislature and that there was neither a very definite nor a unanimous opinion as to the effect of striking out the clause or as to the extent of the power granted
people in 1770 didn't understand economics very well or how to balance the money supply with the demand for money, monetarism is a recent innovation
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare monetarism is a recent innovation <---- are you serious??? Please educate yourself. We're repeating the mistakes of the past. The people who founded our nation knew very well what monetary policies worked. Seeing comments like yours is like having a motorist explain to the mechanic that gasoline is all that matters to an engine. Please study history,
crispymidget 11 months ago
@crispymidget - your stupidity is amazing, i studied economics and finance at university for many years, i have an advanced degree and i've managed my own successful businesses for decades
current understandings of monetarism weren't really developed until the late 1940's
read 'A Monetary History of the United States, 1867-1960' by milton friedman
you realize that g4t is a scammer and the nia is a scam operation, right?
"George4title Scam : Inflation.US Exposed (Part 1)" sDxUjMOKROU
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare What's ridiculous about my question? You've indicated that Article 1 Section 10 "acts only to remove from states inherent soverign power to declare currency". If that's the only purpose of the clause, and the framers wanted to ensure that the powers of the new legislature were not limited, Wouldn't it have served the purpose that you attribute to it better to simply read "No state shall make any Thing a tender in payment of debts" this would ensure no competition from the states.
LibertarianBiker 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker - it's ridiculous because states have to pay for goods and services with something
the authors of the constitution knew the 'revolutionary war' was financed by paper money and the need for it might arise again
if you want to understand what the founders of this country discussed, considered and wrote on the subject, i suggest you read this book, from which i've already made references:
'Legal Tender: A Study in English and American Monetary History' by S.P. Breckenridge
sfiorare 11 months ago
@LibertarianBiker @sfiorare Are you guys familiar with bankers of the past??? The origins of notes that could be traded for real gold??? Research that.
crispymidget 11 months ago
@crispymidget - did you realize that in 1971 the british ambassador showed up at the united states' treasury dept to request that $3 billion be converted into gold?
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare
Why do you consider gold and silver volatile commodities? Gold has retained its value for 2000 years. You are confusing the volatility of paper money with the stability of precious metals. Gold and silver aren't becoming more valuable, the paper money that precious metals are priced in is becoming less valuable. This is basic supply and demand economics and you are trying to confuse people deliberately.
jjrglobal 11 months ago
@jjrglobal - even ron paul's buddy, lew rockwell admits that gold is a volatile commodity
google: "Gold is a volatile commodity, and the gold stocks, of course, are the most volatile stocks on Earth."
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare
It makes no sense that gold would be volatile, we know how much is being mined, its not consumed for the most part, so I think the only thing thats volatile is the currency that gold is priced in, that would make a helluva lot more sense, especially considering the charts run inversely almost precisely. Although we may very well see a lot more of gold going up no matter what the dollar does because of world wide devaluation.
jjrglobal 11 months ago
@jjrglobal - it makes no sense to idiots like you that don't understand basic economics, the fact is that gold has an inelastic supply, when demand surpasses supply, gold producers can't quickly increase production, so prices go up
in the early 1980's, gold's price decreased from over $800 to under $300, if it was the dollar that's volatile, then all good's and service prices would have decreased similarly, but they didn't because gold & silver are volatile commodities
sfiorare 11 months ago
@jjrglobal
In the 1980's interest rates were raised to unbelievable levels. You cant take one episode in history and use that as proof. Over time gold is much more stable
jjrglobal 11 months ago
@sfiorare how about you post the entire thing instead of taking the entire quote completely out of context?
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
"Even veteran Doug Casey won't look at the daily price of gold. He will look at the weekly and monthly movements. And if there's a big price jog in a day, we might discuss it – but again, we try not to ascribe too much meaning to the daily fluctuations. Gold is a volatile commodity, and the gold stocks, of course, are the most volatile stocks on Earth. One single buyer can move these markets. You have to, just for your own sanity, pull back and have a bigger picture view."
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
Taken in it's full context he speaks of DAILY fluctuations and even implores people to look past that and see the bigger picture ie long term trends.
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
@emp0rizzle -lew rockwell says gold is a volatile commodity
and so do all professional financial people that have a sense of integrity
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare no he didn't you illiterate fuck. That wasn't even Lew Rockwell, the quote is from Louis James.
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
@emp0rizzle - 'the gold report' is on lew rockwell.com
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare Which is a reprint of an article originally from marketoracle.co.uk/Article22248.html entitled "How to Own Physical and Paper Gold as Trend Continues Towards $1500" , there's a gigantic link at the bottom. I'd say you're an illiterate retard, but that's be an insult to retards because they can actually read. The person you quoted also says "if those were my only two choices, I would put 100% of that in gold.".
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
@emp0rizzle - notice how the article says, "gold is a volatile commodity"
google: "gold is a volatile commodity" and you'll find plenty of evidence to corroborate what i've said
sfiorare 11 months ago
@sfiorare notice how he follows up and say he'd rather invest 100% of his own money in gold you daft cunt. As he explains, daily fluctuations in prices doesn't mean shit to learn term trends and longer term trends points to gold priced higher in dollars. You can't even discern a reprint of an article from another website that clear in big blue fucking letters leads you directly to the original. You got Alzheimer. Seek help.
emp0rizzle 11 months ago
@emp0rizzle - it's funny how you keep denying the fact that gold is a volatile commodity
what do you think hundreds of dollars in fluctuations over a few months means?
sfiorare 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver The Bureau of Printing and Engraving handles the creation of the currency..... In case you dont know what that is.... Its the US Treasury.... Oh its in the Constitution....The thing you seem to know.....Well you think you know anyway....
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 Tell you what, dummy, you keep saving up those Fed Notes, ok? You keep using those while I use digital silver, physical silver, and other online currencies.
I'll let the graphs that compare my "illegal" money to your enslavement notes speak for themselves.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Get off this slave mentality... Freedom is just a state of mind....Now....If you wish to end up in prison by all means print what ever the hell it is you want, but dont have anyone come crying to youtube for help because you cant follow a simple fucking law.
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 You're a slave if you accept worthless pieces of paper for your time and labor. You have no control over the outcome of your life - that has nothing to do with your frame of mind. Now, apparently YOUR frame of mind is to deny the reality around you. You can fool yourself that you're free, but you're just sucking off the man's weenie.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver lol... ok... lets play this game then maybe you will understand something... Say we were still on the Gold standard.... You show me where there is a single gold mine....that can support the size of this economy......Find me one mine that can sustain this. There isnt enough gold or silver (since silver is more rare) that can support the US economy.... You wanna go back on the gold standard fine...but expect a loaf of bread to cost you $150
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 I'm not getting sucked into dumb arguments that have been refuted decades ago. Read Rothbard if you want to know why the whole "not enough gold" argument is stupid as hell.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver lol stupid....ok right Rothbard the anarchist?....That Rothbard?... Please!
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 Yeah, the one you've never read cause you're too stupid.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Look... I (like i said earlier to George) dont like the current system anymore than you, but face facts here... they have a set of rules and we must play by these rules....until something changes. Corruption follows a trend that its alway followed... It rises and collapses...not from the outside, but always from the inside. You can fight it all you want, but unless everyone does it....It will continue....Which is impossible so play the game until it falls apart...
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 You do realize that you are way beyond proving to me that your an idiot, right? I mean, you're a grade a, certified jackass of the highest order.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 Their videos even state that you can take these Liberty Dollars and spend them. They even state to tell the business its a new coin if they refuse to accept it.... See it now?
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 ya I see what you mean but it was really just a technicality more than anything else. He shouldnt have said "new" as if it was backed by the approval of the government. We live in a fascist country where you can only compete with corporations that are approved and the fed isnt one of them
pdxeddie1111 11 months ago
@pdxeddie1111 The only ones with the power to coin money is the Treasury through the Congress. Idk where this moron (MoneyIsSilver) gets this idea that the avg American can. Hes obviously never read Art. 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 Ok, asshat...where in Art 1 sec 8 does it give congress the EXCLUSIVE right to coin money? IT DOESN'T.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@Dt0x75 You're a liar.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
I'm surprised Alex Jones hasn't gotten on this.
steamidjf 11 months ago
@steamidjf Alex Jones won't talk about competing silver currencies because he is actually a gate keeper/cointel.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
This video brought me to tears!! I am so fucking mad right now! This country is doomed! The federal Government is the biggest felon for defying the US constitution. Article 1 Section 10: Nothing but Gold and Silver to be used as a tender in payment! Yet we are stuck with this green toilet paper! So basically all us Silver stackers cannot use our silver to trade for anything?...its basically worthless huh? What can we do? I need a shot of tequila!!
LetsgetphysicalAg 11 months ago
@LetsgetphysicalAg Get a grip. USA is pretty much dying right now, so you can stop peeing your pants about them. I do trades with silver all the time. The government and its goons are just people, and dumb ones at that.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
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ftra1987 11 months ago
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! WHAT!!!?? CRAZY MAN JUST CRAZY!!!
bigdaddy1525 11 months ago
Government does'nt like competition.
ftra1987 11 months ago
This is BULLSHIT!
thegbpackers284 11 months ago
Bernard Von Nothaus. Why are you in jail? I printed silver medallions! The question I have is this. In order for a man to be guilty of a crime there must be an injured party. Has anyone that has contracted with Bernard ever been injured? If so speak up and be counted as you are among a very few.
Tonkadude1001 11 months ago
@Tonkadude1001 The United Sate of America was the injured party. That's why they charged him with the crimes.
celticlite 11 months ago
@Tonkadude1001 I know I've been injured by these Fed fuckers - they stole my silver, and now they're threatening to throw my friend in a cage.
the thing they don't realize, is that the party from them is OVER. The FRN is OVER. They cannot stop crypto-anarchy. May God have mercy on their souls, because we won't.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
We Rule Them. Barter away folks or Show me a LAW against Bartering. Dont let them scare you. We should scare them by voting every one of the crooked Bastards OUT.
hotheadedjoelhaha 11 months ago
@hotheadedjoelhaha Bartering is perfectly legal. You just need to declare the proceeds of the exchange on your tax form. I think the IRS requires form 1099-B when you file.
celticlite 11 months ago
@hotheadedjoelhaha They'd declare martial law, and we'd have a civil war. Hmm, CW II.
psxwarrior 11 months ago
What shall we do? We shall Trade Anything We Want FOR ANYTHING WE WANT! There is No Law against Bartering! This Country has a Cancer That Cant be cured. Screw them, Barter Away -Everyone! They cant stop you, let em try!
hotheadedjoelhaha 11 months ago
I am from Evansville, Indiana where he is from and opened his first store. I had Liberty dollars, and we were able to use them here with the local businesses where we always got a great deal. Lots of businesses here encouraged the use of the dollars. It's such a shame this had to happen to him and we Americans as a whole.
NdeeAnna 11 months ago
@FaithLoveHopeLiberty ME TOO!
george4title 11 months ago
Since Berkshares are the largest private currency, they should be very, very worried.
The federal reserve should be sent to jail since they are not a government entity.
Now if this guy was an Obama supporter, he would never of been arrested.
nhralph 11 months ago
Since Berkshares are the largest private currency, they should be very, very worried.
The federal reserve should be sent to jail since they are not a government entity.
nhralph 11 months ago
@nhralph The Fed can't do shyte about Bitcoins...or loom, or the hundreds of other alternative currencies that have sprung up while the Fed was chasing Bernard.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@FaithLoveHopeLiberty Wow, do you have a sad view of what Paul represents. I guess if you have given up, then it is time you joined the Obama crowd.
tomperanteau 11 months ago
lol Disney does this, in Florida they have Disney dollars they should throw Mickey Mouse in Jail!
Budvb 11 months ago
this should show everyone the less this government, (U.S.), knows the better for the people.
rickster348 11 months ago
You are only sentenced and go to jail if you agree to be sentenced and sent to jail. People are in jail by choice, that's a fact. The agreement of the parties is the law of the contract. If a liability is created and performance is made to cure the liability then there is no longer a liability or a controversy. Mr Von Not Haus needs to tender a private bond for the indemnity of the court, the cause, the statutes charged, the prosecutor and the judge. Then there is balance and he is free.
MrRiceowlex 11 months ago
@MrRiceowlex I'm guessing the Federal Government isn't going to recognize "Sovereign Citizen" status. It's never worked for ANYONE else. Even if your UCC-1 is pristine and you're an SPC in a non-hostile, non-belligerent, non-adverse position, you'll still be getting a cavity search.
celticlite 11 months ago
@celticlite Has nothing to do with Sovereignty, it's about tendering the bond. The FEDS do understand how they're funded. There is no public money unless it's signed into existence by the private side. This
is why all judges (bankers) are capable of doing conversion. If you've ever signed a promissory note for a bank you know what I'm talking about.
MrRiceowlex 11 months ago
@MrRiceowlex A bond is not acceptable. Absent a Writ of Habeas Corpus, the person must surrender.
celticlite 11 months ago
Oh yeah blame Ron Paul for the guy making up his own currency. Like that makes sense.
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
@onemindonespirit ron Paul has been a consistent no show in actually supporting private currency efforts.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Ok but maybe he shouldn't. After all, you can't make up a "private currency". The guy ought to just have bought gold and silver and maybe started his own investment advisory. Otherwise this is what happens when you try to have people buying and selling in another currency. We're not at some emergency collapse of society and buying some new currency notes is NOT barter. If you want to barter, then just do that.
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
@onemindonespirit "After all, you can't make up a "private currency""
That sounds dumb considering that's exactly what he, and many others have done. What the idiots in the gov think really doesn't matter anymore - they're irrelevant criminals at this point.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver It's a pipe dream, man. Better to just get out of the dollar and if you want, barter with the actual items, not some guy's (and I don't mean that disrespectfully) made up currency. I get that this is what the gov does too--make something up. The difference is that this guy's system is actually backed by something. Now are you seriously going to think that doing so wouldn't get him in trouble? Stay the hell under the radar and be prepared to come out on top after the crash.
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
@onemindonespirit You couldn't be more wrong. All the Feds did was bust the 'Napster' of the movement, but they ain't coming close to stopping the downloading...lol. Just like the RIAA found out that hundreds of Napster replacements had sprung up while they were dealing with Napster, hundreds of currency alternatives are springing up. You might want to check out bitcoin or pecunix.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Ok then, well you go right ahead and make your own dollar backed by silver or whatever else and see what happens to you if your business gets big enough.
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
I'm sorry, but what did he think was going to happen?
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
@onemindonespirit He was in business for 10 years. He has broken no laws. What he did, did not fit the definition of counterfeit.
I guess he may have thought that the Justice system would work.
tomperanteau 11 months ago
@tomperanteau Of course, but you and I both know how that goes. Why tempt the gov to do just that?
onemindonespirit 11 months ago
@onemindonespirit It beats hiding and being scared. That is what they count on to control us.
tomperanteau 11 months ago
@FaithLoveHopeLiberty to me he is just a control system to guide those who would normally think for themselves and do something to just have them follow him to nowhere as you stated so in the end nothing really is done or changed...
damianplus 11 months ago
i cant believe what im hearing!! STOP VOTING! SPEND ALL YOUR MONIES ON GOLD AN SILVER AN BOYCOT THE SYSTEM!
edv177 11 months ago 2
@edv177 Crypto-anarchy and crypto-currencies like Bitcoin. Open source, encrypted p2p transactions cannot be stopped by any government.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@edv177
Done, whats next.
Anothercoilgun 10 months ago
The supreme court makes just as bad decisions, which are not based on fact, but on personal political choice of the justices
mahuiki 11 months ago
Good catch George!
It amazes me no others are covering this as this PROVES we've been converted to a LAWLESS 'JustUs' system!
UnoRaza 11 months ago
I guess all the tokens being used at arcades and amusement parks are counterfeitors. A nationalized sting is going to have to be underway.
flippyflappy1 11 months ago
PEOPLE ONLY GO TO JAIL ON FREE WILL! There is no law in this LAWLESS AMERIKA. You are going to play by the rules of the rulers or die a free human.
And the only thing you can do is draw your line in the sand and stand on your hind legs or be a GOOD LITTLE SLAVE.
762submoa 11 months ago
Wow... Get off your ass Ron Paul? Wow
garrethdavis 11 months ago
Brace yourself for the Police State to deepen America
garrethdavis 11 months ago
Counterfeiting with intent to fraud? ... Wait, you're talking about the Fed right?
garrethdavis 11 months ago
Voting these Fascists out of office is NOT a solution, they will only be replaced with different Fascists! Raw revolt of the masses is the only thing that will affect change! As for Ron Paul, he has turned out to be a total coward now that he's Chairman of the Financial Services Committee!
cresidue 11 months ago
@cresidue Ever heard of bitcoins?
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver If you're refering to pre-decimal British coins or fractional pieces of precious metal coins, yes of course, but those aren't "legal tender" so I fail to see your point!
cresidue 11 months ago
@cresidue no, dummy - BITCOINS...they are a crypto currency...if you're too dumb to use google you're too dumb to converse with me..buh-bye
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Look... This idiot was charged with counterfeiting... He was SELLING these coins AS LEGAL US tender.... Which they are not.... God you cannot be this fucking stupid... ive tried being polite to you, but thats finished. Read the list of charges on him prior to conviction... He SAID they were from the Government....
Dt0x75 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver The funny thing about people like YOU are you're the real "dummy" when you have to resort to insults when you are the one who really has NO clue WFT you're talking about. You better do you own "google" search numbnuts because I'm right!!
cresidue 11 months ago
@cresidue Wow..good comeback. You really are a tool.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
@MoneyIsSilver Another typical American jackazz...
cresidue 11 months ago
@cresidue And you're a typical shitbag with an anonymous profile - fuck you and die.
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago
Surely US Barter law applied here no???
DescartesDooley 11 months ago
@DescartesDooley not sure about that
george4title 11 months ago
I guess the U.S. Mint must also be a terrorist organization for making Silver and Gold Liberty Eagle coins!
Might as well add in the Royal Canadian Mint too.
husky394xp 11 months ago
Better hide your Canadian Maple leafs in your maple syrup. The dogs won't be able to smell your gold.
damnationbegins 11 months ago
Then our government should be in jail forever for printing fake money.
PastorDowell 11 months ago 2
Federal Reserve cash is the fake, counterfeit currency for two reasons: a private bank profits from the creation of it by charging interest on it - they create book entries and charge interest on them. A private bank controls the amount of Fed cash in circulation, expanding and contracting the supply causing boom and bust cycles. What a way to play the stock market, if you’re an insider.
philoplatt 11 months ago
Ron Paul would release this guy and give him a medal on his first day in office.
sdfkjllshadflhadfshl 11 months ago
@sdfkjllshadflhadfshl NO he wouldn't, he'd cower in a corner just like he's done about the FED now that he's Chairman of the Financial Service Committee!!
cresidue 11 months ago
Bernard, you are a hero. You went about this the wrong way. You did bring attention to the most serious issue on the planet though. You threatened the ability of the Power Elite Banking Families to profit from the creation of currency, and their ability to control the economy. For one, you can't combine repeal of the IRS code with monetary reform, that threatens law enforcement/judicial income. You will be free, and everyone involved in your conviction will be in jail.
philoplatt 11 months ago
@philoplatt Think of Liberty Dollar as the 'Napster' of alternative currencies. While the RIAA spent years shutting down Napster in court, a few hundred other download utilities popped up.
The same is happening with private currency - especially online. Check out Bitcoins and crypto-currency
MoneyIsSilver 11 months ago