i lol with leftist hypocrisy,those assholes think they are kind of moral superior and have more right to power,they believe they have the right to demonize and villify others,that their world view is the right one without justification,such a closed minded litle hipocritical fascist bigots,that's what leftists are.This is just wrong,a public tv channel demonizing ideas,censoring,nationalism is growing because you are importing immigrants without ppls consent,people hate the genocide u are doing
Nick said his father wasn't a Nazi and neither is he. So then it appears he is a separatist; there is a difference which is why they are the BRITISH NATIONALIST Party. We have a similar party in the USA known as the WHITE NATIONALIST Part. Nick believes in keeping the white race separate from other races: their own country, state, community, neighborhood, and family members.
proper set up. most leaders of BNP EDL are ex service men and women who support the groups. The reason being we are over their protecting this country. while random people are cuming over turning Britain into a 3rd world country.
Haven't the press done to the BNP, what the Nazis did too the Jews ?. Please someone answer. I mean they have been scrutinized in all manner of speaking and just labeled Racists, Nazis, this and that. It's an absolute disgrace. In all honesty it's only in the past month since I've begun my Modern Studies course that I have took an interest in Politics and tbh I don't think I'll be wanting much more to do with it if this is what the political system in Britain is like. Shocking.
Ok. Can't say that I hate Blacks, Asians, Poles or whatever. I agree with the BNPs views and don't get me wrong they are right on some fronts. There are too many immigrants coming into Britain just now. But also the way the BNP wish to deal with it realy isn't right. But still there is a left and right wing for a reason. Everyone should be allowed to voice there views and that is there views. Otherwise we are all just prisoners of the press.
@Abdikarimelmi How's about drawing the line at a logical point? I.e. about 40 years ago?! The ppl here were all British, considered themselves one people & were unified & strong. We're now force fed a load of bollox that we're all immigrants cos we were invaded 1000 years ago by identical ppl! Now we're being colonized from people from all corners of the globe, that's fine aparantly & we have no right to complain as we were invaded 1000yrs ago! It's the biggest left wing con in history! Wake up!
@Abdikarimelmi How's about drawing the line at a logical point? I.e. about 40 years ago?! The ppl here were all British, considered themselves one people & were unified & strong. We're now force fed a load of bollox that we're all immigrants cos we were invaded 1000 years ago by identical ppl! Now we're being colonized from people from all corners of the globe, that's fine aparantly & we have no right to complain as we were invaded 1000yrs ago! It's the biggest left wing con in history! Wake up!
@adarapature 92.1% of our population is white British. That's hardly us being colonised. You then have some more who are not white British in look but are British in culture. That could probably bump the number up to about 95%+ people in this country are British culture.
@ragerancher If you believe that then you'll believe anything. White Brits will be a minority by 2066. You just have to look outside. Not hit your area yet? Don't worry it's coming soon! It's not racist to not want to be a minority in your own country. Immigration was never intended to get to that extent! Anyone who says it doesn't matter is a brainwashed fool. I bet the native Americans would have a thing to say about whether it matters.
@adarapature We have been letting immigrants into this country for decades yet non-Brits still make up only 7.9% of the population. That's 4.8 million in all the time we've been having immigration. They'd have to grow by about 60 million to make us the minority, about 1400% of their current population. That isn't taking into account one's that assimilate. That's about a year on year growth of 5% in the population, or 2nd largest population growth in the world. Common sense beats blind emotion.
@ragerancher Not the case Im afraid. White Britons have a birthrate of 1.3 children, that's not even enough to repalce those that are dying. Our population is weighted in older ages so once everyone say over 60 dies off then there will be a huge shift. Immigrant birth rates are much higher than Britons. Last year 1 in 3 babies born was to a couple born outside the UK (ONS) & that doesn't take into account kids born from recent immigrants who were themselves born here. 2066 is the date it happens
@adarapature Nope. The birth rate in the UK is 1.96 per woman as of the 2008 census, which was only just below replacement value and has since increased. In order to get 1.96 total birth rate with whites having a birth rate of just 1.3, non whites would need a birth rate of 24.7 per woman! That level of childbirth of simply isn't happening. I can explain the maths behind that on your page if you want as the character limit is a pain. Also can't post links. simple fact is, your info is wrong.
@adarapature Nope. The birth rate in the UK is 1.96 per woman as of the 2008 census, which was only just below replacement value and has since increased. In order to get 1.96 total birth rate with whites having a birth rate of just 1.3, non whites would need a birth rate of 24.7 per woman! That level of childbirth of simply isn't happening. I can explain the maths behind that on your page if you want as the character limit is a pain. Also can't post links. simple fact is, your info is wrong.
@ragerancher The white british birth rate has dropped since 2008. The overall increase in birth rate is from immigrant familes, combine that with the huge extra numbers arriving each year from immigration; which you aren't taking into acccount; and the large families they will have in due course will see the native British outnumbered by 2066. Just look it up, they're not my forecasts but people's with all the facts and not just those like us who speculate online.
@adarapature I just showed, looking at the % of the population, in order to have 1.96 birth rate when 95% of the population averages out at 1.3, the remaining 5% would have to have 24.7 birth rate. We know that isn't the case so your numbers are wrong. As I said, I could show you the maths but it would be easier without the character limit. Here's a little fact for you, white people make up a larger portion of the population in Zambia than non-whites make up our population.
@ragerancher As I said I'm not in charge of all the facts & figures. The people that are have decreed that 2066 is the tipping point, I'll defer to their greater knowledge. Anyway, onto more relevant matters. Do you think that it matters if we're a minority? Can u acknowledge the huge problems mass immigration has caused? Is there any difference between those that raise this point & patriotic people in our past defending their people? If people react to a malevolent stimulus U can't blame them.
@adarapature Well I AM in charge of my facts and figures and I have done my own sums. I suggest you don't argue if all you are doing is taking your numbers from someone else without studying them yourself. I'd rather like to see your source for these numbers because if you simply claim that the source is where you get them, I want to get the chance to challenge your source. Secondly, yes I do think it matters but I don't think it's going to happen. That was a loaded question.
@ragerancher I remember reading it in a national newspaper. Just cos I can't remember the group/individual who conducted the research is neither here nor there. It's not hard to find info about it, just google it. Here you go I've just done it for you. w ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330734/White-Britons-outnumbered-2066-immigration-continues.html
It's not hard to find w ww.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece. ONS figures 1 in 3 children born in 2010 to parents born outisde UK.
@adarapature Numerous issues. First, you didn't address my point about Zambia. Second, taking immigration of 200k a year and including natural growth in that, white Brits will still not be a minority by 2066. That is assuming all immigrants are non-white when in reality about 40% will be European. Third, the birth rate of immigrants drops to the same level as white Brits in second and third generations. Fourth, there is inter-racial breeding that blurs the lines. Fifth, is race or culture first?
@ragerancher 1st) I couldn't careless about Zambia. 2nd) Immigration levels are c600k a year not 200k, you're falling into the trap of irrelevant 'Net' migration where 600k immigrants arrive & 400k Brits emigrate, which actually makes the situation worse. Also I'm not racist so am as concerned with white migration as non white. It's still swamping the native white British 3rd) The birthrate doesn't tend to drop that much, particularly with the Islamic community counducting 'demographic jihad'
@adarapature 1st it is relevant as by your argument, Zambia is being taken over by whites. If you don't care about it then it's clear you are just a white supremacist. Second, no all those leaving are NOT whtie Brits. Recently there was a large leaving of Eastern Europeans. Don't give me the "I'm not racist" crap. Nobody falls for that. You cannot hide your position behind one sentence and I take it as an insult that you think I would believe that for one second.
@ragerancher Listen you jumped up idiot. I care about what is happening in my country, just cos that's my concern doesn't mean "it's clear I'm a white supremacist!" Pls explain why that's so clear?! If that is true about Zambia then yeah I feel sorry for them but I'm concerned with what's happening here as I'm sure they aren't too bothered about Britains problems. Grow up will you & stop bandying the white supremacist label about so freely.
@adarapature You ARE a white supremacist becuase you treat culture and race as synonomous and that makes idiots like you lose lots of support. I've known enough non-whites who are as British as I am (100% if you wonder) to know that someone being a different race does NOT mean they have a different culture automatically or that they want to destroy our culture. You are the one who needs to grow up. It doesn't matter what race someone is if their culture is the same.
@ragerancher How does wanting to protect you're race & culture make you a supremacist?! You can't deny the obvious link between the 2. We've been in this country for thousands of yrs and developed our culture. I agree integrated immigrants may share the culture but they aren't the decendents of the ppl who developed it so becoming outnumbered (which you've gone v quiet on btw!) would be a complete catastrophe! Especially when u consider this is being done against the will of the British ppl!
@ragerancher Surely a supremacist thinks they are superior, just wanting to protect yourself doesn't make you a supremacist. I don't want to go to other countries & takeover, just want to stop it happening to mine! Well done, you know some immigrants who are 100% integrated, so do I but there's plenty who aren't that's the problem you imbecile. Also the non integrated immigrants are growing in number as so many are coming and living in ghetto areas with no incentive/intention to integrate!
@ragerancher You also misguidedly think that our current culture is British & immigrants have adopted it. Do you really think t hasn't been changed already by immigration? What about gangsta rap culture & the fact that most teenagers practically speak a different language, that hideous rude bot patois that is cool at the moment. That is nothing like even 10 yrs ago! Combine that with a lack of understanding of who they are & where they came from thanks to history not being taught propperly by
@ragerancher The vast majority leaving are white Brits. Just cos a few hundred or even thousand East Europeans left is against the general tide and doesn't support your argument. I'm not racist, I don't hate anyone cos of the colour of their skin. I'm against mass immigration of whatever races, I merely mentioned the fact that at this rate native Brits will be outnumbered in their country as it's quite shocking and highlights how much of an effect mass immigration is having & how its a problem.
@adarapature Native Brits have been outrrun by immigrants many times. The original people were driven off by the Celts who were driven off by the Jutes, Angles and Saxons. They in turn were partially driven off by the Danes and then everyone by the Normans. As for why you are racist, becuase you specify "white" Brit. If colour didn't matter you wouldn;t specify it would you? Idiot.
@ragerancher I wondered how long til that old chestnut was wheeled out. The claim we're all immigrants anyway is a LIE, peddled by the left to justify their mass immigration policies. It's offensive bollox! The invasions were small scale and just replaced the ruling elite so had an insignificant impact on the people. You've demonstrated you're ignorance & leftist brainwashing perfectly there. 80% of Brits can trace back to the 1st ppl who settled after the ice age. Cud explain in detail but
@ragerancher really can't be bothered as I've done it so many times to clowns like you. Just read this by a leading geneticist w ww.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/
Do you also think there's any British influence on the genes of Iraq cos we invaded there??! You can invade without wiping out the population you thick geek.
@ragerancher You're really demonstrating your 'right on' left wing credentials with this racism rubbish. What have I said that's racist? You're just a product of left wing brainwashing. Let me guess you're quite young, not long out of your marxist barinwashing academy (state school) where the frankfurt school 11 point plan worked like a charm on you. You now attack your protectors and protect your attackers in the name of political correctness. Supporting immigration which is damaging to you.
@adarapature Lol and you are part of the unwashed braindead lot I assume? Yes, you ARE racist as you claimed race and culture are inseperable. You also want to preserve British culture, which is fair enough, but you then make the argument it can only be continued by WHITE Brits. That is bollocks. I have more ability to free think than you, you just follow tabloid papers like a sheep listening to what your favourite boy says about your preconceived views of immigrants. I've met your kind before.
@ragerancher It's you that are brainwashed, completely & utterly. These left wing views of yours have only come about in the last few decades! At any other time in history they didn't exist because they are self destructive. They're against the survival of countries & ppl and unnatural! How does it feel to be so weak minded & easily influenced by media & PC ness? I don't read tabloids, does it make U feel better thinking that anyone who sees reality is stupid? Truth is U R blind & thick as shit!
@AktiebolagetAB Well considering my sources on information do not include a single newspaper, you are very mistake. Let me guess, you read the Sun or the daily Mail?
@AktiebolagetAB So as we can see, I was right in that you are a tabloid reader and even guessed which one it was. You on the other hand were completely off the mark. Needless to say, supports BNP and is a Mail reader, what more needs to be said? It could only be made worse by being a Sun reader but at least page 3 is a slightly redeeming feature for the Sun, the Mail has none. It's filled with ill-informed crap, quite often I can see why looking at who reads it.
@ragerancher We are talking 0-3 times a week, more 0s than 3s. Go back to bed. I do not need a newspaper to tell me Britain and rest of Europe are going down the drain because of liberal multicultists.
@AktiebolagetAB Of course not, you would have come to that conclusion no matter what was said. Let me ask you, just how much understanding do you have of politics or economics? I've talked to enough BNP people who are so damn ignorant our our own history that their claims of patriotism are hollow. It is nothing more than an ignorant xenophobia. Liberal multiculturism is what has made sure we haven't had war between western European nations. Mindless xenophobia caused them.
@AktiebolagetAB And so you show your true colours. You are simply racist. Yes, I do believe it. Liberals are the ones that make it illegal for people like you to lynch people you don't like. If you can't lynch them, you try to kick them out. I have lived near London and near Oxfordshire (very ethnically mixed and then perdominantly white). Where I live now there are plenty of white people who are scum. Infact the only ones I've had to fight against have been white.
@AktiebolagetAB I've been in 4 serious fights in my life and every one has been against white people. I guess you don't care about crimes that are commits by white Brits do you? It's only if they are non-British that it matters to you. Just how far did you get in the education system? Did you fail art or something?
@ragerancher Liberals are those who carry the blood of victims to multiculturalism. So just because white people do crime it makes it acceptable for other races to do crime too? Get to bed. You are missing the point. Native criminals are the country¨s problem, while foreign criminals are imported criminals. Now why would somebody want to import crimes? It¨s better to stop them at the gates than let them come inside to rape or ravage the land. A restrictive policy is a preventive measure.
@AktiebolagetAB Most of the "niggers" of this country were born and raised here, they are therefore native criminals so stop the bullshit. Maybe you'd just like to tell me what % of immigrants you think are criminals as you are proposing to treat all immigrants as criminals. So, in attempting to prevent the few hundred immigrants who may be criminals, you will prevent the tens of thousands who are not as well. It's a sad thing about BNP supporters, can't be straight.
@AktiebolagetAB Btw you want to know who nationalists carry the blood of? WW1 and WW2 were wars that happened because of nationalism as were the Napoleonic wars and a huge number of wars since the 18th century (prior to that there wasn't such a sense of national identity) and it was more personal greed of lords and kings or religion)
@ragerancher lolololol blacks aren't natives to europe just as whites aren't of australia,they are invaders invited by leftist traitors,go screw yourself.
@hilletehnoob Irrelevant. If they have been born and raised in Britain, how are they any less British than me? Countries are not defined by genetics and if you think otherwise I suggest you go to Russia.
@ragerancher a country is defined by its ethnic groups,an ethnic group is a bunch of people with alot of similarities,ethnic groups are constituted by cultures and fenotype(race),not only cultures,fenotype is essencial,a chinese person is historically of the yellow race,it's part of chinese identity,whites aren't chinese even if they speak chinese,they won't see themselfs as chinese and chineses won't see whites as one of them,results are ethnic conflicts,discriminations,etc,read history.
@hilletehnoob ok so the USA is not defined by the many ethnic groups it contains right? Russia isn't defined by it's ethnic groups? China isn't defined by it's ethnic groups? ALL these countries have more than 1 ethnic group. Hell a lot of Brits have Roman, Saxon, Norse and Norman blood in them! None of these are native to Britain. Actually yes those people DO see themselves as Chinese. If they are born and raised in China, they are Chinese.
@ragerancher lol,jus solis is a joke,doesn't work,only if people that immigrate(italians,germans,etc to the USA for ex) are very similar culturally and ethnically,only when they have almost no differences,in next generation they will feel american,the same doesn't happend with other races,non-european cultures,other religions,go ask muslims and blacks in UK or elsewhere if they feel british,80% do not,and the other 20% are lying because they know it might be bad if they awnser otherwise.
@hilletehnoob Italians, Germans and Spanish are not even remotely culturally similar. You also ignore the fact that the USA has a sizeable black population. Are they not Americans then? How about the actual natives? You clearly didn't think that through. I used to live in Watford so have met many black and indian/Pakistani people. Many of them felt British, infact a poll showed that more of the claim to be proud to be British than the population average. You are spewing bull.
@ragerancher spanish=white christian culture,germans=white christian culture with many cultural(linguistic,etc) similarities with spanish,those peoples get along easily in other countries.i consider africans in america AFRO-americans,whites i consider americans and indians i consider native-americans,diffrent ethnic groups that never got along well,proof is it's history.What a bunch of bullshit,pakis feel muslim and paki,many support sharia and even JIHAD!u are a liar trying to prove ur argument
@ragerancher write in google "muslims don't feel british",there will be immidatly a study from the leftist BBC saying that 40% don't feel british but there are real studies showing that 78% don't feel british,those are studies based on phonecalling,etc...,you are speeling bullshits,uncientific lies to prove ur point.Blacks and muslims create separate societies inside our nations,muslims hang out with muslims,blacks with blacks,they aren't integrated and they cannot be integrated,it's a disaster.
@hilletehnoob You write into google "Muslims more patriotic than Brits". Newspapers none other than the Daily mail and sun have these stories running and we all know how much they like Muslims and foreigners. So you are speaking bull. Also on a daily mail article when I typed in what you said I got this: "More than three quarters, 77 per cent, said they identified with Britain - a higher figure than the half of the public as a whole." Face it, you are talking crap.
@ragerancher you are either muslim/black or you got hit by a train and u lost 50%of ur head,muslims in europe do not integrate,neither do blacks,if you want proves go to the streets,spreading bullshits to try to win an argument is ridiculous,neither blacks nor muslims feel british/are loyal to britain,go to the streets and check out what you are stating before you say such lies.What do you gain with islam?with africans?bgy destroying all our heritage?nothing,you are a leftist brainwashed traitor
@hilletehnoob Actually I'm a white Atheist studying Engineering at Warwick University. You have just proven you are little more than a bigot. When the facts don't fit your prejudice, barrel on regardless. What do YOU gain with recist bigotry? Remember WW2, remember various genocides, ALL arise from bigotry as you are showing. Let me guess, you dropped out of school after failings GCSEs and now think that your scumbag opinion is worth something whilst you cheat on benefits.
@ragerancher You are white but you are a traitor piece of shit that is destroying your country and europe.
i don't have prejudices,you have,you are fanatical for todays dominant ideology,multiculturalism.Bigot,another rethorical name that means nothing,you are getting pro at names without meaning man,bigot,racist,leftist names that mean nothing,racism created by trotsky and bigot by social democrats,as well as extremist.WW2 started for nazi expansionism,not nationalism,i am not expansionist.
@hilletehnoob leftists are such self hating traitors,if you don't like our race go to south america,dont bring muslims,non-whites and others to destroy us,our heritage,our peace with ethnic conflicts by multiculturalism like in Yugoslavia.
Most of people in london riots(over 80%) were non-whites,and the whites were majority east european polish,what a ridiculous moron.
@hilletehnoob Lol that is really the best you can do? I bet you are on the dole aren't you? Leeching off this country whilst getting yourself in a fit because of your mindless bigotry. You are a traitor to common decency and intelligence. I have no more time for scum like you. Proof, as if it was needed, that BNP supporters are ignorant, racist, bigotted arseholes. Get an education and stop leeching off the state you pile of filth.
@ragerancher here you come again with bigotry,lol.If you consider that islamifying you country,destroying your heritage,creating ethnic conflicts between whites and others,paying welfare to them,bringing people who do lots of crimes,who have uncivilized rituals and ways of thinking is decency and inteligence than ok i'm a traitor to decency and inteligence..but i don't think those things are good things.You have no time for me bcs u got no arguments.I am very educated,i think u need education.
@hilletehnoob type "London Riots 2011 - Malaysian student (Ashraf Haziq) mugged" into google. What colour is the guy that steals from his bag? WHITE! That person is a bigger traitor to this country than a muslim or black person is just because of their ethnicity you pillock. I've been involved in 3 fights in my life, every one started by WHITE people. I had my phone stolen and the bulprit was WHITE. You need to learn what reality is you idiot.
@ragerancher Denouncing those who say it's bad and should be stopped. What about the fact that over 70% of Brits are against immigration & it was forced on us undemocratically? Doesn't that prick your conscience of fairness and what's right & wrong? Also I thought you wanted my sources re Brits being a minority by 2066 to pick them apart and disporve them? You seem to have gone quiet on that front? Not a peep out of you. Funny that!
@adarapature No, I denounce people liek you who look at the racial side of things more than the cultural side. You use the cultural argument as a guise when your REAL argument is about race. You admitted earlier that you thought people of a different race were not defenders of British culture by always going on about White british. Non-whites can protect British culture so it's not the culture you want to protect, it is the WHITE British racial mongrel.
@adarapature Next, have you actually lived in an area of many ethnicities or are you one of these people living in a white community and saying how bad it is without ever living in it? I've lived in both and can tell you that at my school anywhere from 25-50% of them where ethnically not white British yet culturally were no different to anyone else. Culture and race are NOT intrinsically linked. You are not pre-programmed into a culture. A black person brought up in a white culture will have it.
@ragerancher I've lived in both. At my school there were minorities but not as many as in yours. I've lived in city centres with large numbers, as I said I have nothing against ethnic minorities but don't want to become one in my own country! The problem is when there's no integration and segregation occurs. Some city centre areas are like being in a foreign country where Brits aren't welcome. That IS a problem and is fundementally wrong especially when these areas are growing in size & number.
@adarapature I used to live in Watford and we had a alrge Pakistani community. I used to walk through it every day on my way to school. To claim Brits weren't welcome is a load of bull. There are some areas of segregation but at the same time there are more areas where people of different skin colour aren't made welcome, even if they were born and raised in Britain. It is their country as much as your and fuck your genetics, they don't give you the entitlement over someone else.
@ragerancher You're using one off examples again to justify things. So what, u may have walked through Watford ok, it doesn't mean there aren't parts of Brum, London, Leicester etc etc mainly muslim areas where they think of it as their territory & non muslims aren't welcome. Why deny facts?! Look at the sharia controlled zones they've decalred recently where gangs patrol & force woman to cover, chase drunk ppl and prevent mixing of the sexes. The fact this is happening in modern Britain is a
@ragrancher complete disgrace! Another 'benefit' of our cultural 'enrichment'! Thank god for our political masters they really did know better & saved us from the hell of our all British country. We never achieved anything before 'enrichment' did we? Society was safe, how boring! Thank god they've made things more exiciting for us with all the tensions they've created & threats of being blown up while riding a train! & brainwashed some of our own idiots into thinking it's all fine & good for us!
@adarapature I take it you have never really looked at British history then. Let me ask you, what do you consider British things? I can guarentee practically all of them did not originate in Britain. Most modern Brits also have genetics that did not originate in Britain. You also ignore the fact we used to hate other western Europeans entering our country but now that isn't such an issue. You sweep history under the carpet more than your opponents and you are too much of a coward to admit it.
@adarapature As an example, the family of our monarch was from Germany, our language is a mix of Norman and Germanic, the name of our country comes from 2 groups of invaders (Britain from the Romans and England from the Angles), our state religion was imported, democracy was imported, genetically we are more non-native than native etc. I imagine back when the Angles invaded people like you were talking about our country being destoryed yet they are what made our country.
@ragerancher We developed our own style of democracy, laws, etc even though they may have originated elsewhere. It doesnt make us less unique & British. So why risk losing that? We've given the world plenty too. Also most Brits DO have native roots, it's a con by leftist idiots! You obviously didn't read the link I posted, did you? I'm VERY well versed in British history thanks ARE YOU?! Also what's all this got to do with our unwanted, undemocratic & unprecedented current levels of immigration?
@adarapature So how does immigration make us less British? Is it because they are bringing something in from elsewhere? Our history is full of it. I happen to be well versed in history too, enough to know Britain has imported as much culture and ideas as it has exported. British culture a century ago is nothign like British culture now. Our culture has changed and it is continuing to change. If you want to delude yourself into thinking it's static, don't bring the rest of us down.
@ragerancher I'm starting to realise you're completely dense. You talk about natural change of a country & culture which is fine. But do you really think there's anything remotely natural about the changes we're seeing & have seen for the last decade or so?! 600,000 immigrants arriving each year, that's a new large city each & every year. It's unsustainable on our NHS, schools, infrastructure let alone the impact it's having on our culture.
@adarapature I'm starting to realise all you can do is quote a load of rhetoric yet are incapable of looking at history or have any understanding of how societies work, instead relying on things like saying I'm "dense". Mate, I've had more exposure to first and second generation immigrants than you have as well as having a far better knowledge of our general history, society and politics than you. If anyone is dense, it's you. You fear difference, a trait common among more stupid people.
@ragerancher Natural change is fine but this isn't natural! How you can you defend our current immigration levels?! 80% of the country are against it! You can't see obvious problems with increased segregation, division & tension let alone the abuse of our benefits system & the fact that there's no money to look after our elderly & our kids education suffers cos there's so many kids in the system who speak no English? You really are blinded by political correctness, a weak minded gullible fool.
@adarapature Highlight one area where I defended current immigration levels. What I'm arguing against is this bull you are peddling that somehow our culture is under threat. Also you may want to learn who you are talking to before you start saying things like "weak minded" and "blinded". Mate, I'm in a top 10 Uni in the country doing engineering, I did politics in my A level, have been in contact with my MP and asked questions to the 3 candidates in the last election. you have what?
@ragerancher Who cares mate, you can be knowledgable on a subject without having an intelligent insight into that subject. I don't care if you're at a good uni or you asked questions to the leaders. That actually lowers my estimation of you. The kind of young ppl who go & do that are normally left leaning tits, like your average questiontime audience member. Totally against the views of the vast majoirty of the public living in the real world who don't have time to go to events like that!
@adarapature I've also been involved in Amnesty international and MUNGA. I think I have far more understanding of politics and exposure to this stuff that you do, as well as a genuine interest that I think far surpasses your own.
@ragerancher That speaks volumes. I don't think you have a better understanding of reality than me, you may have studied left wing politcs & have a very entrenched view based on political correctness & socialism but that's part of your problem. Identify one piece of rhetoric I'vequoted that isn't correct?! Your grasp of history is clearly weak & you deny obvious social & economic problems, I think u should broaden your horizons & not be so blinkered.
@ragerancher It's u who fail to understand how societies work. Just cos we're not being murdered in our beds yet doesn't mean the terrible strife caused by segregated societies from all over the world living in a previously contented & safe, unified country won't happen! When u jump off a sky scaper do u think all's fine when ur 2 floors from impact cos nothing painful has happened yet? Pure niaveity! The riots were a glimpse of whats to come I'm afraid, all forced on the ppl against their will!
@adarapature Remind me how long ago the rivers of blood speech was you prat. This doom you predict is certainly taking it's fucking time isn't it!? Almost half a century since that speech was made!
@ragerancher Are you serious? That's the blink of an eye in macro historical terms you little twerp & you can see the way it's going. If that is your defence you really are a lost cause. You must be 1 floor from impact by now and still refusing to see the danger. You say you haven't defended our immigration levels? Could have fooled me, disputing and disagreeing with any highlighting of it's problems I think could be construed as supporting it. So you're just playing devils advocate then? Why
@ragerancher Why don't Amnesty start defending the cause of the real oppressed ppl of this country? The hard done by native British tax payer? U'd support an amazonian tribe who were facing extinction through mass immigration, why not us? Like the EU clown at dale farm defending ppl who flout the laws the rest of us have to obey. The poor law abiding villagers whose lives have been destroyed for 10 years should be your concern instead braindead activists defend the indefensible. What hipocrocy
@adarapature You honestly just compared the plight of people in Burma and Zimbabwe who face persecution to a bit of over-immigration? That's it, this discussion is over. I'm not going to carry on talking with someone who is clearly such a fucking moron.
@ragerancher I was right about your age "just out of ur left wing brainwashing academy", I was right about us becoming outnumbered by 2066, not a peep from you since I posted the links! I'm right about the damage immigration is doing & the potential for horrendous strife in future (& yes it could be as bad as some of the issues u mention in 50-100yrs how do u know it won't be, when resources are scarce & we're skint! 80% of our ppl are against it so it's wrong on democratic terms too. You lost
@ragerancher Don't think I did compare us to Burma or Zimbabwe actually! Pls refer me to this. Also dickhead, I want to stop things BEFORE they get to that stage, not difficult to understand is it?! This is why I'm highlighting it now, before it's too late. Immigration is sowing the seeds of serious trouble in future, just look at islamic extremism for one, all it would take is a series of successful attacks & retaliation on a few mosques and you'd have a civil war!
@ragerancher This could happen in 6 months time, let alone what it may be like in 20yrs! & That's just one problem of our 'new society' there's loads of other potential issues! Most people with half a brain & the ability to think freely outside of our left wing, pro multicultural media can see this blatantly. I am right, you lost the argument mate
@adarapature As an example, the family of our monarch was from Germany, our language is a mix of Norman and Germanic, the name of our country comes from 2 groups of invaders (Britain from the Romans and England from the Angles), our state religion was imported, democracy was imported, genetically we are more non-native than native etc. I imagine back when the Angles invaded people like you were talking about our country being destoryed yet they are what made our country.
@ragerancher Totally irrelevant points. All countries were influenced from somewhere at some point. So countries that have democracy or speak an indoeuropean language have no right to consider their homeland their own just cos those concepts originated somewhere else?! In your logic no person living in any Muslim country except Saudi is really of their country?! Bet u wouldn't dare say that offensive left wing crap to them or any other nationalities! It's the way of the world, ideas spread.
@adarapature Right all countries were influenced by others and all countries have immigration yet you think our situation is so bad NOW yet our history is full of this. Look at the time of King Alfred the Great for example. We had a massive influx of Danes. William the conquerer and the Normans. Our cultural and genetic roots come from invaders. The USA was built on immigration from all round the world yet their cultures survive. You talk complete bull.
@ragerancher Our genetic roots DO NOT come from invaders. You say you're versed in history but you clearly have no idea! Invasions were a small no of people who replaced the rulers. 99% of the ppl were unaffected. So u use small no's of identical ppl invading 1000 yrs ago to justify 600,000 a yr arriving from all corners of the globe?! There's nothing wrong with importing culture as you say, but you don't need to import people! It's indefensible only idiots support it due to ideological reasons.
@ragerancher Totally irrelevant points. All countries were influenced from somewhere at some point. So countries that have democracy or speak an indoeuropean language have no right to consider their homeland their own just cos those concepts originated somewhere else?! In your logic no person living in any Muslim country except Saudi is really of their country?! Bet u wouldn't dare say that offensive left wing crap to them or any other nationalities! It's the way of the world, ideas spread.
@ragerancher 4th) That is still a problem as far as white Britons becoming a minority is concerned and still a direct result of immigration at some point. 5th) Both are instrisically linked and intertwined, seperating them is a pointless pursuit. Do you still disagree with the experts and believe your own figures then? Bit arrogant to think you'd be more accurate than those trusted by the govt and ONS surely.
@ragerancher Apologies, just tried those links, you need to google w ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330734/White-Britons-outnumbered-2066-immigration-continues.html for the 1st one
and put the ht tp:// in front and remove the space between the 1st & 2nd 'w' for the other one. Turns out the source was an Oxford Uni professor & The Migration Advisory Board, a govt body but it's also corroborated by migration watch all well respected orgs.
@ragerancher 2066 is if immigration continues at current rate, last yr we saw an increase by 21% so that's a few more years knocked off. Also it's hard to see it being reduced as all main political parties are pro immigration for cheap labour. Pls be aware that our population's numbers are weighted in old age too, so for school children and those of working age, the date will seem more like 2040, all our superior numbers will be in old people's homes. The reality on the ground will be sooner
@ragerancher 2066 is if immigration continues at current rate. Last yr saw a 21% increase! That's a few more years knocked off. Also I can't see immigration decreasing as all main political parties are pro immigration for cheap labour. Our superior numbers will be weighted in old ages too so in reality for young people it will seem more like 2040 as most of our people will be in old people's homes. Most cities will also go well before 2066 so in reality on the ground it will seem sooner
@adarapature Also, as I pointed out to you, Zambia has more white people in it's population than we have non-whites in ours. If you don't know, Zambia is on the south west coast of africa. If we have a problem with our identity being destroyed by non-whites then they have a bigger problem of theirs being destroyed by whites. You cannot claim it is true for Britain and not them. Also, France and the Netherlands have more non-native people than we do and haven't collapsed. You lack proof.
Hun, no one can say what's British and what isn't. What you call 'British' is made up of different nationalities: Italian, German, French, Danish, Indian, Pakistani, Jamaican. The last three exactly have been here because we invited them. In the 1950s to the 1970s, the government invited them because we needed their medical skills. Since then, they've been integrated into 'British' life. About 40 years ago, what you'd call British is mainly Jamaican, Pakistani, and Indian.
@1994PandaBeth "About 40 years ago, what you'd call British is mainly Jamaican, Pakistani, and Indian." What r u on about love?! I think you've got a very warped view of history if you think all those invited in were doctors! Most were strike breakers & if you think they all integrated perfectly then I'm afraid your blind. I think most people would instinctively know what's British and what isn't. What we're heading towards is distinctly unbritish! This "we're all immigrants is a left wing LIE!
@Abdikarimelmi So no one's indigenous cos we all originated from Africa? Get real. There has to be a point when you say we developed our own identity culture & people. So in ur logic no one has the right to say any where is their country? That is offensive, bet you wouldn't try telling a chinese person that it isn't their country cos they originated from africa! Going back that far is childish & ignoring thousands of yrs of human development. Absolute brainwashed PC rubbish, grow up
@Abdikarimelmi What's next? Equal rights for bacteria cos we originated from them? Why stop at Africa, cos we all ultimately started from bacteria? Lets ban dettox, bleach and any disinfectant cos it's discriminatory to our ultimate ancestors, bacteria! I'm with you comrade lets dismantle this evil human empire cos it's against our ultimate ancestors the bacteria! Ban dettox! Lets start a bacteria preservation terror group to stand up for their rights? Need I go on? Geek.
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
"Finally the this panel faces the audience - a specially hand-picked bunch of illegal immigrants and drop -outs with freakishly left-wing anti-British views in accordance with the BBC's communist totalitarian policy on current affairs programmes"
I hope you BNP get your way... I'm non white immigrant in another western country. I'm made fun of for saying that the immigration policy needs to be rethought. Apparently, since I'm a non white immigrant, I MUST be pro immigration, pro multicult, anti euro culture and people. This is a divide and conquer strategy, and I'm not gonna be put in a box. I love the country I am in, and I HATE seeing it being destroyed under leftist policies... I'm a libertarian btw. Long live BNP!
Watch what happens in Mosques, If they do this to little boys, Just imagine what they would do to little girls. This is called molestation you sick people.
Griffin makes some good points, eg about Churchill, and the panel gangs up on him including the chairperson.....problem is at their heart they are a racist party trying to potray themselves as moderate because all else has failed. The other politicians are just terrified of being associated with the BNP.
Unfair as it might be that they all ganged up on the BNP, it was required for the general public who may have watched this and were unaware of what the whole BNP was about, and only saw them as a quick fix to everything. Im glad they did this, and in the most respect, my Father did not die in the army protecting this country to just have it thrown back in his face. Fuck the BNP.
@Aenglaland Warsi was pulled up by Dimbleby later in the show regarding some discriminatory comments she had made about homosexuality. Of course she completely sidestepped the question and Dimbleby let her get away with it.
No one is pushing to have Japan flooded with non-Japanese, giving them special rights and privileges over the indigenous population like free housing and affirmative action and then blaming the Japanese for ensuing problems. No one is pushing to have Nigeria flooded with non-Nigerians, then blaming the Nigerians for ensuing problems.
Only White politicians are supporting this, only White children are being displaced in their own countries. It's GENOCIDE against White people.
And look what has happened under labour, this country has turned shit. Imagine if BNP had got what they wanted with immigration, this country would be richer and safer. And there would actualy be jobs.
@pikeonfly1 The best thing you ca do with a racist is ask him a question and let him talk. He'll be the master of his own demise, just like Griffin was on QT. You cannot blame anyone else but the racists for the demise of the BNP. They're history, the the seeds of their demise were planted by themselves years ago when they pened their constitutuion. The ironic thing is that until recently Churchill would not have been allowed in the bnp as he was from mixed race. Griffin's a racist and scum
@pikeonfly1 It's never hand-picked and was not for this episode. Fascists like you just need to understand that you're in a tiny minority and whenever you come into a representative environment you'll be a tiny minority.
Your car is Japanese. Your pizza is Italian. Your beer is German. Your wine is Spanish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your tea is Chinese. Your watch is Swiss. Your fashion is French. Your shirt is Indian. Your shoes are Thai. Your radio is Korean. Your vodka is Russian. And then complain: your neighbour is ...an immigrant? Pull yourself together!!
"Your car is Japanese. Your pizza is Italian. Your beer is German. Your wine is Spanish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your tea is Chinese. Your watch is Swiss. Your fashion is French. Your shirt is Indian. Your shoes are Thai. Your radio is Korean. Your vodka is Russian. And then complain: your neighbour is ...an immigrant?" Yes, youre comparing consumables and items to a physical person. Items dont interupt a bloodline or culture where as people from other countrys do...
@TheLoommee: whats up? werent you expecting a reply to your little rant. Youre compairing stuff to immigrants that come from other countrys to either be eaten, used or kept as comsumables. They dont interupt a culture and a bloodline. Another words, Brazilian coffee or an indian shirt doesnt arrange mosques to be built in Britain nor does it miscegenate with our indiginous British people making a new mongrel generation. Big difference in your comparisons. And yes I love the BNP. Proud of it too!
@ashleelmb i was not comparing things to an immigrant i was sayin that these soo called immigrant evented half the shit you live on you fuktard :@ YOU IGNORANT SHIT!
@TheLoommee: Fucktard? ignorant? Me? Er... you were comparing these things made or cropped in other countrys, that are imported here in Britain, to immigrants. You compared all these things to a " neighbour who is ...an immigrant?" - your words not mine. And I'm a fucktard yeah? lol. You dont even realise what you've said! Lad, Before you reply, just read it back and realise the point I made in reply to your first comment and take back the insults. I didnt swear or insult you so why do it to me?
700,000 Immigrants are coming to Britain to each year to sponge British welfare state for rest of there lives. British colonial power robbed & destabilized there countries & now immigrants from those countries are in Britain to rob & destabilize Britain. What goes round comes round. Justice party will end immigration & Asylum from Europe & rest of the world, otherwise Britain will be plunged into civil war, which will spread across Europe. Everybody will fight each other.
I'm sorry, but I would vote BNP, if I though britain was indanger of becoming a Shariah state. Sorry, but I know their extream, but there the only ones brave enough to even stand up for britain, even though they are racists thugs, and resist political corectnes. I don't really like the BNP, but I would sure as hell orefer them to run the country, that a Saudi Prince, and have to bow to a caliphate, or be stoned onder homophobic Shariah dog excrement law. ) :<
@meatisdeliciouse this is exactly what the BNP want you to believe though! They need you to think that its a choice between them and shariah law, between what they want you to think is 'good' and 'evil'. That's wrong, and you shouldn't let yourself become corrupted. The BNP, because of their fundamentalist beliefs and particularly (if you see any youtube BNP comments) the beliefs of their supporters, can only get public majority through deceit, and you should not stand for that.
@xaviervelastin I'm not saying under "normal" circomstances I would vote BNP. But Shari'ah law is more INTOLERANT, VIOLENT and secterian, than ANY BNP, EDL or other "far right" group I can think of. Shari'ah law actualy murders people for being gay, it makes women into second class citozens and it's far more violent and intolerant than any BNP candidate. I'm sorry, but I would rather vote for the BNP 100 times in a row, than have any aspect of Shari'ah law as part of the UK legal system.
@meatisdeliciouse I'm not saying that shariah law or any bit of it is good. I think it's absolutely monstruous and people who support it are racist, sexist, vile people. But you shouldn't buy into people who say that the only alternative is to vote for a far right party who, to be honest, aren't going to be much better with homosexuality or women's rights (though thats far further down on their agenda). I won't stop anyone from voting what they want, but it seems like you've been brainwashed.
@xaviervelastin Thats one of the reasons I don't vote for them. I OPOSE racism, I am against someone being abused for the colour of their skin, where they are from, their acent or their language. Religion is a choice, colour sexual orientation and your native language are not. I was watching secret millionare last night, and I really felt sorry fot the Iraqi man. I'm certaily not a racist, and I don't like racism either. I suppose your right, he he "right" ( ;
NICK GRIFFIN IS A FAT UNEDUCATED LITTLE PRICK MATE..... SO IS ALL THE BNP FAGGOTS THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM ARE JUST AS AD IV GOT ADDRESSES AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS YOU LIL BASTARDS RACIST PEOPLE..... THE ALMIGHTY WILL PUNISH THIS EVILNESS! ITS FUNNY COZ THEY AINT NEVER GNNA WIN! UGLY BASTARDS!
from the president of the United States Of America! Barrack Obama! 4
this was a set up to attack nick griffin....its well known...ive nothing against non white people...i find them to be very polite and generous people but when u attack a person for his BELIEFS... that is wrong... what he says is not right but thats his opinion...you dont have to accept or follow it...you make up tour own minds....thats what makes us human,,,,,,cause he says it, does not make it right....
It wasn't a set-up Nick Griffin hung himself, he started by bringing in a childish attack on Jack Straws father, he couldn't justify it when he was called out on it, he was also questioned about the youtube video where he spcifically states that he's using words like 'identity', and 'justice' to cover up his racist agenda which he was saying to a bunch of KKK supporters, and he could even find an excuse.
The BBC are not idiots, he was called out on avoiding their questions and got humiliated.
i'm canadian, i wish we as whites were represented and cared for as much by our political powers/groups as Nick Griffin and the Bnp's care/conceren. I fully support the BNP its only a pity my vote won't/can't count, Nick Griffin is a demonized genius
@FreedomForHale Congratulations to Nick Griffin, for stating the avarage TRUE briton's views Stop uncontrolled immigration Restore corporal punishment Restore capital punishment Singapore law for the drug pushers Reclaim the city centres from immigrant gangs. Tell the truth about knife crime and the origins of 90% of who are doing. To hear Griffin speak the truth after decades of left wing garbage is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! refreshing. You have my vote Nick, and there are many more of us.
i'm canadian, i wish we as whites were represented and cared for as much by our political powers/groups as Nick Griffin and the Bnp's care/conceren. I fully support the BNP its only a pity my vote won't/can't count, Nick Griffin is demonized genius
i lol with leftist hypocrisy,those assholes think they are kind of moral superior and have more right to power,they believe they have the right to demonize and villify others,that their world view is the right one without justification,such a closed minded litle hipocritical fascist bigots,that's what leftists are.This is just wrong,a public tv channel demonizing ideas,censoring,nationalism is growing because you are importing immigrants without ppls consent,people hate the genocide u are doing
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
did they actually make a black woman sit next to him ?
SuperThroatpuncher 1 month ago
Nick said his father wasn't a Nazi and neither is he. So then it appears he is a separatist; there is a difference which is why they are the BRITISH NATIONALIST Party. We have a similar party in the USA known as the WHITE NATIONALIST Part. Nick believes in keeping the white race separate from other races: their own country, state, community, neighborhood, and family members.
vutube379 1 month ago
proper set up. most leaders of BNP EDL are ex service men and women who support the groups. The reason being we are over their protecting this country. while random people are cuming over turning Britain into a 3rd world country.
Armyboy2011ify 2 months ago
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@Armyboy2011ify How is Britain becoming a third world country?
weeblefishII 2 months ago
Haven't the press done to the BNP, what the Nazis did too the Jews ?. Please someone answer. I mean they have been scrutinized in all manner of speaking and just labeled Racists, Nazis, this and that. It's an absolute disgrace. In all honesty it's only in the past month since I've begun my Modern Studies course that I have took an interest in Politics and tbh I don't think I'll be wanting much more to do with it if this is what the political system in Britain is like. Shocking.
fasterFuse 4 months ago
Ok. Can't say that I hate Blacks, Asians, Poles or whatever. I agree with the BNPs views and don't get me wrong they are right on some fronts. There are too many immigrants coming into Britain just now. But also the way the BNP wish to deal with it realy isn't right. But still there is a left and right wing for a reason. Everyone should be allowed to voice there views and that is there views. Otherwise we are all just prisoners of the press.
fasterFuse 4 months ago
The Native americans migrated from (most likly) europe during the ice age.
The Maori of New Zealand as well as the aboriginies of australia and all other pasific islands came from south east aisa.
No one is truly "indiginous" , as far as modern science is aware except black africans.
At what point should we draw the line
Abdikarimelmi 4 months ago
@Abdikarimelmi How's about drawing the line at a logical point? I.e. about 40 years ago?! The ppl here were all British, considered themselves one people & were unified & strong. We're now force fed a load of bollox that we're all immigrants cos we were invaded 1000 years ago by identical ppl! Now we're being colonized from people from all corners of the globe, that's fine aparantly & we have no right to complain as we were invaded 1000yrs ago! It's the biggest left wing con in history! Wake up!
adarapature 4 months ago
@Abdikarimelmi How's about drawing the line at a logical point? I.e. about 40 years ago?! The ppl here were all British, considered themselves one people & were unified & strong. We're now force fed a load of bollox that we're all immigrants cos we were invaded 1000 years ago by identical ppl! Now we're being colonized from people from all corners of the globe, that's fine aparantly & we have no right to complain as we were invaded 1000yrs ago! It's the biggest left wing con in history! Wake up!
adarapature 4 months ago 2
@adarapature 92.1% of our population is white British. That's hardly us being colonised. You then have some more who are not white British in look but are British in culture. That could probably bump the number up to about 95%+ people in this country are British culture.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher If you believe that then you'll believe anything. White Brits will be a minority by 2066. You just have to look outside. Not hit your area yet? Don't worry it's coming soon! It's not racist to not want to be a minority in your own country. Immigration was never intended to get to that extent! Anyone who says it doesn't matter is a brainwashed fool. I bet the native Americans would have a thing to say about whether it matters.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature We have been letting immigrants into this country for decades yet non-Brits still make up only 7.9% of the population. That's 4.8 million in all the time we've been having immigration. They'd have to grow by about 60 million to make us the minority, about 1400% of their current population. That isn't taking into account one's that assimilate. That's about a year on year growth of 5% in the population, or 2nd largest population growth in the world. Common sense beats blind emotion.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher Not the case Im afraid. White Britons have a birthrate of 1.3 children, that's not even enough to repalce those that are dying. Our population is weighted in older ages so once everyone say over 60 dies off then there will be a huge shift. Immigrant birth rates are much higher than Britons. Last year 1 in 3 babies born was to a couple born outside the UK (ONS) & that doesn't take into account kids born from recent immigrants who were themselves born here. 2066 is the date it happens
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Nope. The birth rate in the UK is 1.96 per woman as of the 2008 census, which was only just below replacement value and has since increased. In order to get 1.96 total birth rate with whites having a birth rate of just 1.3, non whites would need a birth rate of 24.7 per woman! That level of childbirth of simply isn't happening. I can explain the maths behind that on your page if you want as the character limit is a pain. Also can't post links. simple fact is, your info is wrong.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@adarapature Nope. The birth rate in the UK is 1.96 per woman as of the 2008 census, which was only just below replacement value and has since increased. In order to get 1.96 total birth rate with whites having a birth rate of just 1.3, non whites would need a birth rate of 24.7 per woman! That level of childbirth of simply isn't happening. I can explain the maths behind that on your page if you want as the character limit is a pain. Also can't post links. simple fact is, your info is wrong.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher The white british birth rate has dropped since 2008. The overall increase in birth rate is from immigrant familes, combine that with the huge extra numbers arriving each year from immigration; which you aren't taking into acccount; and the large families they will have in due course will see the native British outnumbered by 2066. Just look it up, they're not my forecasts but people's with all the facts and not just those like us who speculate online.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature I just showed, looking at the % of the population, in order to have 1.96 birth rate when 95% of the population averages out at 1.3, the remaining 5% would have to have 24.7 birth rate. We know that isn't the case so your numbers are wrong. As I said, I could show you the maths but it would be easier without the character limit. Here's a little fact for you, white people make up a larger portion of the population in Zambia than non-whites make up our population.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher As I said I'm not in charge of all the facts & figures. The people that are have decreed that 2066 is the tipping point, I'll defer to their greater knowledge. Anyway, onto more relevant matters. Do you think that it matters if we're a minority? Can u acknowledge the huge problems mass immigration has caused? Is there any difference between those that raise this point & patriotic people in our past defending their people? If people react to a malevolent stimulus U can't blame them.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Well I AM in charge of my facts and figures and I have done my own sums. I suggest you don't argue if all you are doing is taking your numbers from someone else without studying them yourself. I'd rather like to see your source for these numbers because if you simply claim that the source is where you get them, I want to get the chance to challenge your source. Secondly, yes I do think it matters but I don't think it's going to happen. That was a loaded question.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher I remember reading it in a national newspaper. Just cos I can't remember the group/individual who conducted the research is neither here nor there. It's not hard to find info about it, just google it. Here you go I've just done it for you. w ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330734/White-Britons-outnumbered-2066-immigration-continues.html
It's not hard to find w ww.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5621482.ece. ONS figures 1 in 3 children born in 2010 to parents born outisde UK.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Numerous issues. First, you didn't address my point about Zambia. Second, taking immigration of 200k a year and including natural growth in that, white Brits will still not be a minority by 2066. That is assuming all immigrants are non-white when in reality about 40% will be European. Third, the birth rate of immigrants drops to the same level as white Brits in second and third generations. Fourth, there is inter-racial breeding that blurs the lines. Fifth, is race or culture first?
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher 1st) I couldn't careless about Zambia. 2nd) Immigration levels are c600k a year not 200k, you're falling into the trap of irrelevant 'Net' migration where 600k immigrants arrive & 400k Brits emigrate, which actually makes the situation worse. Also I'm not racist so am as concerned with white migration as non white. It's still swamping the native white British 3rd) The birthrate doesn't tend to drop that much, particularly with the Islamic community counducting 'demographic jihad'
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature 1st it is relevant as by your argument, Zambia is being taken over by whites. If you don't care about it then it's clear you are just a white supremacist. Second, no all those leaving are NOT whtie Brits. Recently there was a large leaving of Eastern Europeans. Don't give me the "I'm not racist" crap. Nobody falls for that. You cannot hide your position behind one sentence and I take it as an insult that you think I would believe that for one second.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher Listen you jumped up idiot. I care about what is happening in my country, just cos that's my concern doesn't mean "it's clear I'm a white supremacist!" Pls explain why that's so clear?! If that is true about Zambia then yeah I feel sorry for them but I'm concerned with what's happening here as I'm sure they aren't too bothered about Britains problems. Grow up will you & stop bandying the white supremacist label about so freely.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature You ARE a white supremacist becuase you treat culture and race as synonomous and that makes idiots like you lose lots of support. I've known enough non-whites who are as British as I am (100% if you wonder) to know that someone being a different race does NOT mean they have a different culture automatically or that they want to destroy our culture. You are the one who needs to grow up. It doesn't matter what race someone is if their culture is the same.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher How does wanting to protect you're race & culture make you a supremacist?! You can't deny the obvious link between the 2. We've been in this country for thousands of yrs and developed our culture. I agree integrated immigrants may share the culture but they aren't the decendents of the ppl who developed it so becoming outnumbered (which you've gone v quiet on btw!) would be a complete catastrophe! Especially when u consider this is being done against the will of the British ppl!
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher Surely a supremacist thinks they are superior, just wanting to protect yourself doesn't make you a supremacist. I don't want to go to other countries & takeover, just want to stop it happening to mine! Well done, you know some immigrants who are 100% integrated, so do I but there's plenty who aren't that's the problem you imbecile. Also the non integrated immigrants are growing in number as so many are coming and living in ghetto areas with no incentive/intention to integrate!
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher You also misguidedly think that our current culture is British & immigrants have adopted it. Do you really think t hasn't been changed already by immigration? What about gangsta rap culture & the fact that most teenagers practically speak a different language, that hideous rude bot patois that is cool at the moment. That is nothing like even 10 yrs ago! Combine that with a lack of understanding of who they are & where they came from thanks to history not being taught propperly by
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher left wing teachers & you create a vacum to be filled by anything, no wonder things are so bad.
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher The vast majority leaving are white Brits. Just cos a few hundred or even thousand East Europeans left is against the general tide and doesn't support your argument. I'm not racist, I don't hate anyone cos of the colour of their skin. I'm against mass immigration of whatever races, I merely mentioned the fact that at this rate native Brits will be outnumbered in their country as it's quite shocking and highlights how much of an effect mass immigration is having & how its a problem.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Native Brits have been outrrun by immigrants many times. The original people were driven off by the Celts who were driven off by the Jutes, Angles and Saxons. They in turn were partially driven off by the Danes and then everyone by the Normans. As for why you are racist, becuase you specify "white" Brit. If colour didn't matter you wouldn;t specify it would you? Idiot.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher I wondered how long til that old chestnut was wheeled out. The claim we're all immigrants anyway is a LIE, peddled by the left to justify their mass immigration policies. It's offensive bollox! The invasions were small scale and just replaced the ruling elite so had an insignificant impact on the people. You've demonstrated you're ignorance & leftist brainwashing perfectly there. 80% of Brits can trace back to the 1st ppl who settled after the ice age. Cud explain in detail but
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher really can't be bothered as I've done it so many times to clowns like you. Just read this by a leading geneticist w ww.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/
Do you also think there's any British influence on the genes of Iraq cos we invaded there??! You can invade without wiping out the population you thick geek.
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher You're really demonstrating your 'right on' left wing credentials with this racism rubbish. What have I said that's racist? You're just a product of left wing brainwashing. Let me guess you're quite young, not long out of your marxist barinwashing academy (state school) where the frankfurt school 11 point plan worked like a charm on you. You now attack your protectors and protect your attackers in the name of political correctness. Supporting immigration which is damaging to you.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Lol and you are part of the unwashed braindead lot I assume? Yes, you ARE racist as you claimed race and culture are inseperable. You also want to preserve British culture, which is fair enough, but you then make the argument it can only be continued by WHITE Brits. That is bollocks. I have more ability to free think than you, you just follow tabloid papers like a sheep listening to what your favourite boy says about your preconceived views of immigrants. I've met your kind before.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher It's you that are brainwashed, completely & utterly. These left wing views of yours have only come about in the last few decades! At any other time in history they didn't exist because they are self destructive. They're against the survival of countries & ppl and unnatural! How does it feel to be so weak minded & easily influenced by media & PC ness? I don't read tabloids, does it make U feel better thinking that anyone who sees reality is stupid? Truth is U R blind & thick as shit!
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher " you just follow tabloid papers like a sheep "
That´s ironic, coming for you.
AktiebolagetAB 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB Well considering my sources on information do not include a single newspaper, you are very mistake. Let me guess, you read the Sun or the daily Mail?
ragerancher 1 month ago
@ragerancher I read Daily Mail sometimes, but I get my sources from statistics.
AktiebolagetAB 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB So as we can see, I was right in that you are a tabloid reader and even guessed which one it was. You on the other hand were completely off the mark. Needless to say, supports BNP and is a Mail reader, what more needs to be said? It could only be made worse by being a Sun reader but at least page 3 is a slightly redeeming feature for the Sun, the Mail has none. It's filled with ill-informed crap, quite often I can see why looking at who reads it.
ragerancher 1 month ago
@ragerancher We are talking 0-3 times a week, more 0s than 3s. Go back to bed. I do not need a newspaper to tell me Britain and rest of Europe are going down the drain because of liberal multicultists.
AktiebolagetAB 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB Of course not, you would have come to that conclusion no matter what was said. Let me ask you, just how much understanding do you have of politics or economics? I've talked to enough BNP people who are so damn ignorant our our own history that their claims of patriotism are hollow. It is nothing more than an ignorant xenophobia. Liberal multiculturism is what has made sure we haven't had war between western European nations. Mindless xenophobia caused them.
ragerancher 1 month ago
I do not think you even believe that yourself.
I suppose those niggers ravaging London were quite the benefit to England?
AktiebolagetAB 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB And so you show your true colours. You are simply racist. Yes, I do believe it. Liberals are the ones that make it illegal for people like you to lynch people you don't like. If you can't lynch them, you try to kick them out. I have lived near London and near Oxfordshire (very ethnically mixed and then perdominantly white). Where I live now there are plenty of white people who are scum. Infact the only ones I've had to fight against have been white.
ragerancher 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB I've been in 4 serious fights in my life and every one has been against white people. I guess you don't care about crimes that are commits by white Brits do you? It's only if they are non-British that it matters to you. Just how far did you get in the education system? Did you fail art or something?
ragerancher 1 month ago
@ragerancher Liberals are those who carry the blood of victims to multiculturalism. So just because white people do crime it makes it acceptable for other races to do crime too? Get to bed. You are missing the point. Native criminals are the country¨s problem, while foreign criminals are imported criminals. Now why would somebody want to import crimes? It¨s better to stop them at the gates than let them come inside to rape or ravage the land. A restrictive policy is a preventive measure.
AktiebolagetAB 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB Most of the "niggers" of this country were born and raised here, they are therefore native criminals so stop the bullshit. Maybe you'd just like to tell me what % of immigrants you think are criminals as you are proposing to treat all immigrants as criminals. So, in attempting to prevent the few hundred immigrants who may be criminals, you will prevent the tens of thousands who are not as well. It's a sad thing about BNP supporters, can't be straight.
ragerancher 1 month ago
@AktiebolagetAB Btw you want to know who nationalists carry the blood of? WW1 and WW2 were wars that happened because of nationalism as were the Napoleonic wars and a huge number of wars since the 18th century (prior to that there wasn't such a sense of national identity) and it was more personal greed of lords and kings or religion)
ragerancher 1 month ago
@ragerancher lolololol blacks aren't natives to europe just as whites aren't of australia,they are invaders invited by leftist traitors,go screw yourself.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob Irrelevant. If they have been born and raised in Britain, how are they any less British than me? Countries are not defined by genetics and if you think otherwise I suggest you go to Russia.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher a country is defined by its ethnic groups,an ethnic group is a bunch of people with alot of similarities,ethnic groups are constituted by cultures and fenotype(race),not only cultures,fenotype is essencial,a chinese person is historically of the yellow race,it's part of chinese identity,whites aren't chinese even if they speak chinese,they won't see themselfs as chinese and chineses won't see whites as one of them,results are ethnic conflicts,discriminations,etc,read history.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob ok so the USA is not defined by the many ethnic groups it contains right? Russia isn't defined by it's ethnic groups? China isn't defined by it's ethnic groups? ALL these countries have more than 1 ethnic group. Hell a lot of Brits have Roman, Saxon, Norse and Norman blood in them! None of these are native to Britain. Actually yes those people DO see themselves as Chinese. If they are born and raised in China, they are Chinese.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher lol,jus solis is a joke,doesn't work,only if people that immigrate(italians,germans,etc to the USA for ex) are very similar culturally and ethnically,only when they have almost no differences,in next generation they will feel american,the same doesn't happend with other races,non-european cultures,other religions,go ask muslims and blacks in UK or elsewhere if they feel british,80% do not,and the other 20% are lying because they know it might be bad if they awnser otherwise.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob Italians, Germans and Spanish are not even remotely culturally similar. You also ignore the fact that the USA has a sizeable black population. Are they not Americans then? How about the actual natives? You clearly didn't think that through. I used to live in Watford so have met many black and indian/Pakistani people. Many of them felt British, infact a poll showed that more of the claim to be proud to be British than the population average. You are spewing bull.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher spanish=white christian culture,germans=white christian culture with many cultural(linguistic,etc) similarities with spanish,those peoples get along easily in other countries.i consider africans in america AFRO-americans,whites i consider americans and indians i consider native-americans,diffrent ethnic groups that never got along well,proof is it's history.What a bunch of bullshit,pakis feel muslim and paki,many support sharia and even JIHAD!u are a liar trying to prove ur argument
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher write in google "muslims don't feel british",there will be immidatly a study from the leftist BBC saying that 40% don't feel british but there are real studies showing that 78% don't feel british,those are studies based on phonecalling,etc...,you are speeling bullshits,uncientific lies to prove ur point.Blacks and muslims create separate societies inside our nations,muslims hang out with muslims,blacks with blacks,they aren't integrated and they cannot be integrated,it's a disaster.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob You write into google "Muslims more patriotic than Brits". Newspapers none other than the Daily mail and sun have these stories running and we all know how much they like Muslims and foreigners. So you are speaking bull. Also on a daily mail article when I typed in what you said I got this: "More than three quarters, 77 per cent, said they identified with Britain - a higher figure than the half of the public as a whole." Face it, you are talking crap.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher you are either muslim/black or you got hit by a train and u lost 50%of ur head,muslims in europe do not integrate,neither do blacks,if you want proves go to the streets,spreading bullshits to try to win an argument is ridiculous,neither blacks nor muslims feel british/are loyal to britain,go to the streets and check out what you are stating before you say such lies.What do you gain with islam?with africans?bgy destroying all our heritage?nothing,you are a leftist brainwashed traitor
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob Actually I'm a white Atheist studying Engineering at Warwick University. You have just proven you are little more than a bigot. When the facts don't fit your prejudice, barrel on regardless. What do YOU gain with recist bigotry? Remember WW2, remember various genocides, ALL arise from bigotry as you are showing. Let me guess, you dropped out of school after failings GCSEs and now think that your scumbag opinion is worth something whilst you cheat on benefits.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher You are white but you are a traitor piece of shit that is destroying your country and europe.
i don't have prejudices,you have,you are fanatical for todays dominant ideology,multiculturalism.Bigot,another rethorical name that means nothing,you are getting pro at names without meaning man,bigot,racist,leftist names that mean nothing,racism created by trotsky and bigot by social democrats,as well as extremist.WW2 started for nazi expansionism,not nationalism,i am not expansionist.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob leftists are such self hating traitors,if you don't like our race go to south america,dont bring muslims,non-whites and others to destroy us,our heritage,our peace with ethnic conflicts by multiculturalism like in Yugoslavia.
Most of people in london riots(over 80%) were non-whites,and the whites were majority east european polish,what a ridiculous moron.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob Lol that is really the best you can do? I bet you are on the dole aren't you? Leeching off this country whilst getting yourself in a fit because of your mindless bigotry. You are a traitor to common decency and intelligence. I have no more time for scum like you. Proof, as if it was needed, that BNP supporters are ignorant, racist, bigotted arseholes. Get an education and stop leeching off the state you pile of filth.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher here you come again with bigotry,lol.If you consider that islamifying you country,destroying your heritage,creating ethnic conflicts between whites and others,paying welfare to them,bringing people who do lots of crimes,who have uncivilized rituals and ways of thinking is decency and inteligence than ok i'm a traitor to decency and inteligence..but i don't think those things are good things.You have no time for me bcs u got no arguments.I am very educated,i think u need education.
hilletehnoob 3 weeks ago
@hilletehnoob type "London Riots 2011 - Malaysian student (Ashraf Haziq) mugged" into google. What colour is the guy that steals from his bag? WHITE! That person is a bigger traitor to this country than a muslim or black person is just because of their ethnicity you pillock. I've been involved in 3 fights in my life, every one started by WHITE people. I had my phone stolen and the bulprit was WHITE. You need to learn what reality is you idiot.
ragerancher 3 weeks ago
@ragerancher Denouncing those who say it's bad and should be stopped. What about the fact that over 70% of Brits are against immigration & it was forced on us undemocratically? Doesn't that prick your conscience of fairness and what's right & wrong? Also I thought you wanted my sources re Brits being a minority by 2066 to pick them apart and disporve them? You seem to have gone quiet on that front? Not a peep out of you. Funny that!
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature No, I denounce people liek you who look at the racial side of things more than the cultural side. You use the cultural argument as a guise when your REAL argument is about race. You admitted earlier that you thought people of a different race were not defenders of British culture by always going on about White british. Non-whites can protect British culture so it's not the culture you want to protect, it is the WHITE British racial mongrel.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@adarapature Next, have you actually lived in an area of many ethnicities or are you one of these people living in a white community and saying how bad it is without ever living in it? I've lived in both and can tell you that at my school anywhere from 25-50% of them where ethnically not white British yet culturally were no different to anyone else. Culture and race are NOT intrinsically linked. You are not pre-programmed into a culture. A black person brought up in a white culture will have it.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher I've lived in both. At my school there were minorities but not as many as in yours. I've lived in city centres with large numbers, as I said I have nothing against ethnic minorities but don't want to become one in my own country! The problem is when there's no integration and segregation occurs. Some city centre areas are like being in a foreign country where Brits aren't welcome. That IS a problem and is fundementally wrong especially when these areas are growing in size & number.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature I used to live in Watford and we had a alrge Pakistani community. I used to walk through it every day on my way to school. To claim Brits weren't welcome is a load of bull. There are some areas of segregation but at the same time there are more areas where people of different skin colour aren't made welcome, even if they were born and raised in Britain. It is their country as much as your and fuck your genetics, they don't give you the entitlement over someone else.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher You're using one off examples again to justify things. So what, u may have walked through Watford ok, it doesn't mean there aren't parts of Brum, London, Leicester etc etc mainly muslim areas where they think of it as their territory & non muslims aren't welcome. Why deny facts?! Look at the sharia controlled zones they've decalred recently where gangs patrol & force woman to cover, chase drunk ppl and prevent mixing of the sexes. The fact this is happening in modern Britain is a
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragrancher complete disgrace! Another 'benefit' of our cultural 'enrichment'! Thank god for our political masters they really did know better & saved us from the hell of our all British country. We never achieved anything before 'enrichment' did we? Society was safe, how boring! Thank god they've made things more exiciting for us with all the tensions they've created & threats of being blown up while riding a train! & brainwashed some of our own idiots into thinking it's all fine & good for us!
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature I take it you have never really looked at British history then. Let me ask you, what do you consider British things? I can guarentee practically all of them did not originate in Britain. Most modern Brits also have genetics that did not originate in Britain. You also ignore the fact we used to hate other western Europeans entering our country but now that isn't such an issue. You sweep history under the carpet more than your opponents and you are too much of a coward to admit it.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@adarapature As an example, the family of our monarch was from Germany, our language is a mix of Norman and Germanic, the name of our country comes from 2 groups of invaders (Britain from the Romans and England from the Angles), our state religion was imported, democracy was imported, genetically we are more non-native than native etc. I imagine back when the Angles invaded people like you were talking about our country being destoryed yet they are what made our country.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher We developed our own style of democracy, laws, etc even though they may have originated elsewhere. It doesnt make us less unique & British. So why risk losing that? We've given the world plenty too. Also most Brits DO have native roots, it's a con by leftist idiots! You obviously didn't read the link I posted, did you? I'm VERY well versed in British history thanks ARE YOU?! Also what's all this got to do with our unwanted, undemocratic & unprecedented current levels of immigration?
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature So how does immigration make us less British? Is it because they are bringing something in from elsewhere? Our history is full of it. I happen to be well versed in history too, enough to know Britain has imported as much culture and ideas as it has exported. British culture a century ago is nothign like British culture now. Our culture has changed and it is continuing to change. If you want to delude yourself into thinking it's static, don't bring the rest of us down.
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher I'm starting to realise you're completely dense. You talk about natural change of a country & culture which is fine. But do you really think there's anything remotely natural about the changes we're seeing & have seen for the last decade or so?! 600,000 immigrants arriving each year, that's a new large city each & every year. It's unsustainable on our NHS, schools, infrastructure let alone the impact it's having on our culture.
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature I'm starting to realise all you can do is quote a load of rhetoric yet are incapable of looking at history or have any understanding of how societies work, instead relying on things like saying I'm "dense". Mate, I've had more exposure to first and second generation immigrants than you have as well as having a far better knowledge of our general history, society and politics than you. If anyone is dense, it's you. You fear difference, a trait common among more stupid people.
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher Natural change is fine but this isn't natural! How you can you defend our current immigration levels?! 80% of the country are against it! You can't see obvious problems with increased segregation, division & tension let alone the abuse of our benefits system & the fact that there's no money to look after our elderly & our kids education suffers cos there's so many kids in the system who speak no English? You really are blinded by political correctness, a weak minded gullible fool.
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature Highlight one area where I defended current immigration levels. What I'm arguing against is this bull you are peddling that somehow our culture is under threat. Also you may want to learn who you are talking to before you start saying things like "weak minded" and "blinded". Mate, I'm in a top 10 Uni in the country doing engineering, I did politics in my A level, have been in contact with my MP and asked questions to the 3 candidates in the last election. you have what?
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher Who cares mate, you can be knowledgable on a subject without having an intelligent insight into that subject. I don't care if you're at a good uni or you asked questions to the leaders. That actually lowers my estimation of you. The kind of young ppl who go & do that are normally left leaning tits, like your average questiontime audience member. Totally against the views of the vast majoirty of the public living in the real world who don't have time to go to events like that!
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature I've also been involved in Amnesty international and MUNGA. I think I have far more understanding of politics and exposure to this stuff that you do, as well as a genuine interest that I think far surpasses your own.
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher That speaks volumes. I don't think you have a better understanding of reality than me, you may have studied left wing politcs & have a very entrenched view based on political correctness & socialism but that's part of your problem. Identify one piece of rhetoric I'vequoted that isn't correct?! Your grasp of history is clearly weak & you deny obvious social & economic problems, I think u should broaden your horizons & not be so blinkered.
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher It's u who fail to understand how societies work. Just cos we're not being murdered in our beds yet doesn't mean the terrible strife caused by segregated societies from all over the world living in a previously contented & safe, unified country won't happen! When u jump off a sky scaper do u think all's fine when ur 2 floors from impact cos nothing painful has happened yet? Pure niaveity! The riots were a glimpse of whats to come I'm afraid, all forced on the ppl against their will!
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature Remind me how long ago the rivers of blood speech was you prat. This doom you predict is certainly taking it's fucking time isn't it!? Almost half a century since that speech was made!
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher Are you serious? That's the blink of an eye in macro historical terms you little twerp & you can see the way it's going. If that is your defence you really are a lost cause. You must be 1 floor from impact by now and still refusing to see the danger. You say you haven't defended our immigration levels? Could have fooled me, disputing and disagreeing with any highlighting of it's problems I think could be construed as supporting it. So you're just playing devils advocate then? Why
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher Why don't Amnesty start defending the cause of the real oppressed ppl of this country? The hard done by native British tax payer? U'd support an amazonian tribe who were facing extinction through mass immigration, why not us? Like the EU clown at dale farm defending ppl who flout the laws the rest of us have to obey. The poor law abiding villagers whose lives have been destroyed for 10 years should be your concern instead braindead activists defend the indefensible. What hipocrocy
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature You honestly just compared the plight of people in Burma and Zimbabwe who face persecution to a bit of over-immigration? That's it, this discussion is over. I'm not going to carry on talking with someone who is clearly such a fucking moron.
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher I was right about your age "just out of ur left wing brainwashing academy", I was right about us becoming outnumbered by 2066, not a peep from you since I posted the links! I'm right about the damage immigration is doing & the potential for horrendous strife in future (& yes it could be as bad as some of the issues u mention in 50-100yrs how do u know it won't be, when resources are scarce & we're skint! 80% of our ppl are against it so it's wrong on democratic terms too. You lost
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher Don't think I did compare us to Burma or Zimbabwe actually! Pls refer me to this. Also dickhead, I want to stop things BEFORE they get to that stage, not difficult to understand is it?! This is why I'm highlighting it now, before it's too late. Immigration is sowing the seeds of serious trouble in future, just look at islamic extremism for one, all it would take is a series of successful attacks & retaliation on a few mosques and you'd have a civil war!
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher This could happen in 6 months time, let alone what it may be like in 20yrs! & That's just one problem of our 'new society' there's loads of other potential issues! Most people with half a brain & the ability to think freely outside of our left wing, pro multicultural media can see this blatantly. I am right, you lost the argument mate
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature As an example, the family of our monarch was from Germany, our language is a mix of Norman and Germanic, the name of our country comes from 2 groups of invaders (Britain from the Romans and England from the Angles), our state religion was imported, democracy was imported, genetically we are more non-native than native etc. I imagine back when the Angles invaded people like you were talking about our country being destoryed yet they are what made our country.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@ragerancher Totally irrelevant points. All countries were influenced from somewhere at some point. So countries that have democracy or speak an indoeuropean language have no right to consider their homeland their own just cos those concepts originated somewhere else?! In your logic no person living in any Muslim country except Saudi is really of their country?! Bet u wouldn't dare say that offensive left wing crap to them or any other nationalities! It's the way of the world, ideas spread.
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature Right all countries were influenced by others and all countries have immigration yet you think our situation is so bad NOW yet our history is full of this. Look at the time of King Alfred the Great for example. We had a massive influx of Danes. William the conquerer and the Normans. Our cultural and genetic roots come from invaders. The USA was built on immigration from all round the world yet their cultures survive. You talk complete bull.
ragerancher 3 months ago
@ragerancher Our genetic roots DO NOT come from invaders. You say you're versed in history but you clearly have no idea! Invasions were a small no of people who replaced the rulers. 99% of the ppl were unaffected. So u use small no's of identical ppl invading 1000 yrs ago to justify 600,000 a yr arriving from all corners of the globe?! There's nothing wrong with importing culture as you say, but you don't need to import people! It's indefensible only idiots support it due to ideological reasons.
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher Totally irrelevant points. All countries were influenced from somewhere at some point. So countries that have democracy or speak an indoeuropean language have no right to consider their homeland their own just cos those concepts originated somewhere else?! In your logic no person living in any Muslim country except Saudi is really of their country?! Bet u wouldn't dare say that offensive left wing crap to them or any other nationalities! It's the way of the world, ideas spread.
adarapature 3 months ago
@ragerancher 4th) That is still a problem as far as white Britons becoming a minority is concerned and still a direct result of immigration at some point. 5th) Both are instrisically linked and intertwined, seperating them is a pointless pursuit. Do you still disagree with the experts and believe your own figures then? Bit arrogant to think you'd be more accurate than those trusted by the govt and ONS surely.
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher Apologies, just tried those links, you need to google w ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330734/White-Britons-outnumbered-2066-immigration-continues.html for the 1st one
and put the ht tp:// in front and remove the space between the 1st & 2nd 'w' for the other one. Turns out the source was an Oxford Uni professor & The Migration Advisory Board, a govt body but it's also corroborated by migration watch all well respected orgs.
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher 2066 is if immigration continues at current rate, last yr we saw an increase by 21% so that's a few more years knocked off. Also it's hard to see it being reduced as all main political parties are pro immigration for cheap labour. Pls be aware that our population's numbers are weighted in old age too, so for school children and those of working age, the date will seem more like 2040, all our superior numbers will be in old people's homes. The reality on the ground will be sooner
adarapature 4 months ago
@ragerancher 2066 is if immigration continues at current rate. Last yr saw a 21% increase! That's a few more years knocked off. Also I can't see immigration decreasing as all main political parties are pro immigration for cheap labour. Our superior numbers will be weighted in old ages too so in reality for young people it will seem more like 2040 as most of our people will be in old people's homes. Most cities will also go well before 2066 so in reality on the ground it will seem sooner
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature Also, as I pointed out to you, Zambia has more white people in it's population than we have non-whites in ours. If you don't know, Zambia is on the south west coast of africa. If we have a problem with our identity being destroyed by non-whites then they have a bigger problem of theirs being destroyed by whites. You cannot claim it is true for Britain and not them. Also, France and the Netherlands have more non-native people than we do and haven't collapsed. You lack proof.
ragerancher 4 months ago
@adarapature
Hun, no one can say what's British and what isn't. What you call 'British' is made up of different nationalities: Italian, German, French, Danish, Indian, Pakistani, Jamaican. The last three exactly have been here because we invited them. In the 1950s to the 1970s, the government invited them because we needed their medical skills. Since then, they've been integrated into 'British' life. About 40 years ago, what you'd call British is mainly Jamaican, Pakistani, and Indian.
1994PandaBeth 3 months ago
@1994PandaBeth "About 40 years ago, what you'd call British is mainly Jamaican, Pakistani, and Indian." What r u on about love?! I think you've got a very warped view of history if you think all those invited in were doctors! Most were strike breakers & if you think they all integrated perfectly then I'm afraid your blind. I think most people would instinctively know what's British and what isn't. What we're heading towards is distinctly unbritish! This "we're all immigrants is a left wing LIE!
adarapature 3 months ago
@adarapature
Fine, then. Define what's 'British'. Impress me.
1994PandaBeth 3 months ago
@Abdikarimelmi So no one's indigenous cos we all originated from Africa? Get real. There has to be a point when you say we developed our own identity culture & people. So in ur logic no one has the right to say any where is their country? That is offensive, bet you wouldn't try telling a chinese person that it isn't their country cos they originated from africa! Going back that far is childish & ignoring thousands of yrs of human development. Absolute brainwashed PC rubbish, grow up
adarapature 4 months ago
@Abdikarimelmi What's next? Equal rights for bacteria cos we originated from them? Why stop at Africa, cos we all ultimately started from bacteria? Lets ban dettox, bleach and any disinfectant cos it's discriminatory to our ultimate ancestors, bacteria! I'm with you comrade lets dismantle this evil human empire cos it's against our ultimate ancestors the bacteria! Ban dettox! Lets start a bacteria preservation terror group to stand up for their rights? Need I go on? Geek.
adarapature 4 months ago
@adarapature No, were not bacteria, we are protozoa
Abdikarimelmi 4 months ago
The bnp try to pretend that they just care about britain etc. Really they are just a group of racise, homophobic bastards.
SmileForInsanity 5 months ago
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
flutethyagu 5 months ago
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
flutethyagu 5 months ago
in 50 years from now, Caucasians will be a minority. In every three people, one will be Indian, one Chinese and the remaining one either African - American or Caucasian or a mixed variety..
flutethyagu 5 months ago
"Finally the this panel faces the audience - a specially hand-picked bunch of illegal immigrants and drop -outs with freakishly left-wing anti-British views in accordance with the BBC's communist totalitarian policy on current affairs programmes"
IlRezzonico 6 months ago
I hope you BNP get your way... I'm non white immigrant in another western country. I'm made fun of for saying that the immigration policy needs to be rethought. Apparently, since I'm a non white immigrant, I MUST be pro immigration, pro multicult, anti euro culture and people. This is a divide and conquer strategy, and I'm not gonna be put in a box. I love the country I am in, and I HATE seeing it being destroyed under leftist policies... I'm a libertarian btw. Long live BNP!
cow777 6 months ago
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illuminatedSlave 6 months ago
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TheRockZH 7 months ago
Griffin makes some good points, eg about Churchill, and the panel gangs up on him including the chairperson.....problem is at their heart they are a racist party trying to potray themselves as moderate because all else has failed. The other politicians are just terrified of being associated with the BNP.
THthefirst 7 months ago
Unfair as it might be that they all ganged up on the BNP, it was required for the general public who may have watched this and were unaware of what the whole BNP was about, and only saw them as a quick fix to everything. Im glad they did this, and in the most respect, my Father did not die in the army protecting this country to just have it thrown back in his face. Fuck the BNP.
monkofdark123 7 months ago
@monkofdark123
You silly person.
illuminatedSlave 6 months ago
@Aenglaland Warsi was pulled up by Dimbleby later in the show regarding some discriminatory comments she had made about homosexuality. Of course she completely sidestepped the question and Dimbleby let her get away with it.
tomd2103 7 months ago
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The MANTRA:
No one is pushing to have Japan flooded with non-Japanese, giving them special rights and privileges over the indigenous population like free housing and affirmative action and then blaming the Japanese for ensuing problems. No one is pushing to have Nigeria flooded with non-Nigerians, then blaming the Nigerians for ensuing problems.
Only White politicians are supporting this, only White children are being displaced in their own countries. It's GENOCIDE against White people.
thespacialone 8 months ago
And look what has happened under labour, this country has turned shit. Imagine if BNP had got what they wanted with immigration, this country would be richer and safer. And there would actualy be jobs.
RCXDominator 8 months ago
@RCXDominator THEY TUK ARR JERRRRBBBSSS
1stcrayvenaa 8 months ago
@1stcrayvenaa you what?
RCXDominator 8 months ago
mainstream media = brain wash
BNP = truth
yabitchonmydikk 8 months ago
European countries are for europeans. its not that difficult. africans have africa, the chinese have china.
KumarZimmerman08 8 months ago
a lot of bullying by the bbc and there left wing hand picked audience on the leader of a political party .......it was a disgrace!
pikeonfly1 8 months ago 5
@pikeonfly1 The best thing you ca do with a racist is ask him a question and let him talk. He'll be the master of his own demise, just like Griffin was on QT. You cannot blame anyone else but the racists for the demise of the BNP. They're history, the the seeds of their demise were planted by themselves years ago when they pened their constitutuion. The ironic thing is that until recently Churchill would not have been allowed in the bnp as he was from mixed race. Griffin's a racist and scum
fadmucker08 8 months ago
@pikeonfly1 It's never hand-picked and was not for this episode. Fascists like you just need to understand that you're in a tiny minority and whenever you come into a representative environment you'll be a tiny minority.
zed1207 5 months ago
Your car is Japanese. Your pizza is Italian. Your beer is German. Your wine is Spanish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your tea is Chinese. Your watch is Swiss. Your fashion is French. Your shirt is Indian. Your shoes are Thai. Your radio is Korean. Your vodka is Russian. And then complain: your neighbour is ...an immigrant? Pull yourself together!!
TheLoommee 9 months ago
"Your car is Japanese. Your pizza is Italian. Your beer is German. Your wine is Spanish. Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Brazilian. Your tea is Chinese. Your watch is Swiss. Your fashion is French. Your shirt is Indian. Your shoes are Thai. Your radio is Korean. Your vodka is Russian. And then complain: your neighbour is ...an immigrant?" Yes, youre comparing consumables and items to a physical person. Items dont interupt a bloodline or culture where as people from other countrys do...
ashleelmb 9 months ago
@ashleelmb wot u on about shutup u bnp lover !
TheLoommee 9 months ago
@TheLoommee: whats up? werent you expecting a reply to your little rant. Youre compairing stuff to immigrants that come from other countrys to either be eaten, used or kept as comsumables. They dont interupt a culture and a bloodline. Another words, Brazilian coffee or an indian shirt doesnt arrange mosques to be built in Britain nor does it miscegenate with our indiginous British people making a new mongrel generation. Big difference in your comparisons. And yes I love the BNP. Proud of it too!
ashleelmb 9 months ago
@ashleelmb i was not comparing things to an immigrant i was sayin that these soo called immigrant evented half the shit you live on you fuktard :@ YOU IGNORANT SHIT!
TheLoommee 9 months ago
@TheLoommee: Fucktard? ignorant? Me? Er... you were comparing these things made or cropped in other countrys, that are imported here in Britain, to immigrants. You compared all these things to a " neighbour who is ...an immigrant?" - your words not mine. And I'm a fucktard yeah? lol. You dont even realise what you've said! Lad, Before you reply, just read it back and realise the point I made in reply to your first comment and take back the insults. I didnt swear or insult you so why do it to me?
ashleelmb 9 months ago
pakisout.
yabitchonmydikk 9 months ago
WHITE honki's i think they have the capitalistic clap
MrNeversaynever 9 months ago
Total capitalistic bullying enough said - i love de moc crazy it so trained what to think
MrNeversaynever 9 months ago
ANGRY BLACK MAN
ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!
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arr5612 9 months ago
We only win the first and second world war because of millions of blacks and asians.
This whole show was one big circle jerk.
arr5612 9 months ago
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700,000 Immigrants are coming to Britain to each year to sponge British welfare state for rest of there lives. British colonial power robbed & destabilized there countries & now immigrants from those countries are in Britain to rob & destabilize Britain. What goes round comes round. Justice party will end immigration & Asylum from Europe & rest of the world, otherwise Britain will be plunged into civil war, which will spread across Europe. Everybody will fight each other.
justicepartyuk 9 months ago
I'm sorry, but I would vote BNP, if I though britain was indanger of becoming a Shariah state. Sorry, but I know their extream, but there the only ones brave enough to even stand up for britain, even though they are racists thugs, and resist political corectnes. I don't really like the BNP, but I would sure as hell orefer them to run the country, that a Saudi Prince, and have to bow to a caliphate, or be stoned onder homophobic Shariah dog excrement law. ) :<
meatisdeliciouse 9 months ago
@meatisdeliciouse this is exactly what the BNP want you to believe though! They need you to think that its a choice between them and shariah law, between what they want you to think is 'good' and 'evil'. That's wrong, and you shouldn't let yourself become corrupted. The BNP, because of their fundamentalist beliefs and particularly (if you see any youtube BNP comments) the beliefs of their supporters, can only get public majority through deceit, and you should not stand for that.
xaviervelastin 9 months ago
@xaviervelastin I'm not saying under "normal" circomstances I would vote BNP. But Shari'ah law is more INTOLERANT, VIOLENT and secterian, than ANY BNP, EDL or other "far right" group I can think of. Shari'ah law actualy murders people for being gay, it makes women into second class citozens and it's far more violent and intolerant than any BNP candidate. I'm sorry, but I would rather vote for the BNP 100 times in a row, than have any aspect of Shari'ah law as part of the UK legal system.
meatisdeliciouse 9 months ago
@meatisdeliciouse: I'm glad you recognise this...
ashleelmb 9 months ago
@ashleelmb yes.
meatisdeliciouse 9 months ago
@meatisdeliciouse I'm not saying that shariah law or any bit of it is good. I think it's absolutely monstruous and people who support it are racist, sexist, vile people. But you shouldn't buy into people who say that the only alternative is to vote for a far right party who, to be honest, aren't going to be much better with homosexuality or women's rights (though thats far further down on their agenda). I won't stop anyone from voting what they want, but it seems like you've been brainwashed.
xaviervelastin 8 months ago
@xaviervelastin Thats one of the reasons I don't vote for them. I OPOSE racism, I am against someone being abused for the colour of their skin, where they are from, their acent or their language. Religion is a choice, colour sexual orientation and your native language are not. I was watching secret millionare last night, and I really felt sorry fot the Iraqi man. I'm certaily not a racist, and I don't like racism either. I suppose your right, he he "right" ( ;
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xMASHHEADx 9 months ago
nick griffin is very well educated u dont know shit !!
999twinny 9 months ago
@999twinny Silence you working class twat. Learn to spell.
sod16 9 months ago
bnp legends
999twinny 9 months ago
you have no idea, and just shut the fuck up
999twinny 9 months ago
NICK GRIFFIN IS A FAT UNEDUCATED LITTLE PRICK MATE..... SO IS ALL THE BNP FAGGOTS THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM ARE JUST AS AD IV GOT ADDRESSES AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS YOU LIL BASTARDS RACIST PEOPLE..... THE ALMIGHTY WILL PUNISH THIS EVILNESS! ITS FUNNY COZ THEY AINT NEVER GNNA WIN! UGLY BASTARDS!
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Militizzle 9 months ago
nick grifin is god and will conquer Britain
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jimfox123sse 9 months ago
YOUR GRANDAD DID NOT VOTE FOR FASCISTS.
HE SHOT THEM DOWN.
jgalbion 9 months ago
Damn him, I'm all ready to hate every inch of him for his evil beliefs....and then I look into those eyes and drown in the beauty.
jgalbion 9 months ago
this was a set up to attack nick griffin....its well known...ive nothing against non white people...i find them to be very polite and generous people but when u attack a person for his BELIEFS... that is wrong... what he says is not right but thats his opinion...you dont have to accept or follow it...you make up tour own minds....thats what makes us human,,,,,,cause he says it, does not make it right....
ComboMaX 9 months ago
It wasn't a set-up Nick Griffin hung himself, he started by bringing in a childish attack on Jack Straws father, he couldn't justify it when he was called out on it, he was also questioned about the youtube video where he spcifically states that he's using words like 'identity', and 'justice' to cover up his racist agenda which he was saying to a bunch of KKK supporters, and he could even find an excuse.
The BBC are not idiots, he was called out on avoiding their questions and got humiliated.
Oliiiverr 9 months ago
Congratulations Nick,
You've got the lefties rattled. It's so nice to see the average Briton's views get an airing. Let me briefly sum them up as follows.
Capital punishment--------------- in favour.
Corporal punishment--------------in favour
Stop immigration--------------------in favour
Restore school discipline--------in favour
Root out leftwing teachers-------in favour
Recover city centres from immigrant gangs.----in favour VOTE NICK
haggiwashahounddog 9 months ago
Congratulations Nick,
You've got the lefties rattled. It's so nice to see the average Briton's views get an airing. Let me briefly sum them up as follows.
Capital punishment--------------- in favour.
Corporal punishment--------------in favour
Stop immigration--------------------in favour
Restore school discipline--------in favour
Root out leftwing teachers-------in favour
Recover city centres from immigrant gangs.----in favour VOTE NICK.
haggiwashahounddog 9 months ago
i'm canadian, i wish we as whites were represented and cared for as much by our political powers/groups as Nick Griffin and the Bnp's care/conceren. I fully support the BNP its only a pity my vote won't/can't count, Nick Griffin is a demonized genius
FreedomForHale 10 months ago
haggiwashahounddog 9 months ago
i'm canadian, i wish we as whites were represented and cared for as much by our political powers/groups as Nick Griffin and the Bnp's care/conceren. I fully support the BNP its only a pity my vote won't/can't count, Nick Griffin is demonized genius
FreedomForHale 10 months ago