I am just pushing a bit on categories. The Ottomans used a many Greeks, Armenians, Slavs, Italians and so on as members of their ruling elites. While the empire was been ruled by a Turkic Sultan it was managed by a multiethnic officialdom who defined themselves as Ottoman subjects. So that is why Turkish ruled is somewhat inaccurate. Now in modern nationalist discourse we have things simpler so that we can easily hate each other. In history things are more complex and fascinating.
@Dimik72 you really hate greek history. i put it down to jelousy. im guesssing you are turkish, if thats true, tell me one peice of history your country has that doesnt influence hatred and war.
You defined yourself as Greek. No Byzantine ever did that until Plethon, whose works were burned by the clergy. So unless you feel Roman, you appreciate your Roman past, and you think of Rome as the roots of your history and culture, then you are not Byzantine. You bear cultural traits associated with Byzantium but Orthodoxy was just part of the Byzantine Roman identity. The rest is modern Greek national fiction. Nothing bad with it. All nations use fictions like that, it is just not history.
@Dimik72 You haven't fully understood the meaning of the word "Roman", so you make some mistakes.
The name Roman stopped being a national/racial name and became a political term. This happened gradualy & naturally because of the great expansion & of the mentality of the Roman empire and was formalized in 212 AD (Constitutio Antoniana).
So, being Roman doesn't mean you can't be Greek or Armenian etc.
Hagia Sofia is Greek, no one denies that, do they?? The thing is unlike the mosques in Greece, Hagia Sofia has been taken good care till now! It has been under Turkish ruled country for more than last 550 years and you can come visit to see this beauty and you are always welcome! I really would like to see the friendship of Greece and Turkey even more strenghten! We should promote the friendship not conflicts. You gotta see this song from: watch?v=wuR3cstWoCE
@kahvevotka Actually the Hagia Sophia is Roman. The building was created by the Roman Emperor Justinian. It is the apex of Roman architecture, built with cement and bricks (both perfected by the Romans). No Byzantine ever considered HS as Greek. In fact no Byzantine ever felt Greek, unless he were an erudite musing about Plato. Also, the HS has indeed been well taken care of by the Ottomans and then the Turks. But the two are not the same. There were non-Turkish Ottomans (the majority in fact).
@Dimik72 Thank you for the clarification on Roman Greek issue :) but about Ottoman thing i did not understand your claim, i used "Turkish ruled country" for Ottoman and today's Turkiye ??
@kody17166 sure, but the thing is what we are focusing on! We have issues to solve, we all know that but we also have countless common things that make us one. We should be able to talk about our issues but when you start to talk only about your issues it is not showing the reality. It is making harder to solve our problems and it is spreading the hate. As people start to communicate, they are feeling more closed to each other which helps solving issues, which helps enjoying the life together
I am a historian. I produced this video two years ago for my students. Could the Greek and Turkish nationalist neanderthals who post here just take their fight to some street away from here. This is about a monument that is significant as a way to understand an important long deceased civilization. The complexes of testosterone filled Greeks and Turks who can barely write and can certainly not communicate in basic civility are not of interest to me.
Thank you for this video. The sound is a bit indistinct, but the images are wonderful! I agree with you about the quarreling and bickering comments and would like to suggest that you set your video so that you moderate all comments? That way, you can approve what is and is not posted on your video.
@Dimik72 The civilization Proffesor is not deceased, we are 300 million strong we are called the Eastern Orthodox Church. We may have had been run out and genocide against us but we still exist. Please do not forget about the 4th Crusade your students will find that facinating as is the beautiful building dedicated to christ.
@TheDingoSA I am afraid that there is no historical reason for considering the 300 million Orthodox people as one entity. The Byzantine certainly never felt that way and were happy to gouge the eyes of Bulgarian enemies. As for the modern Orthodox, well two Balkan wars showed well how united they are. My students do find the 4th Crusade fascinating. I do not, however, use it to make them hate westerners and exalt Orthodoxy. I just teach it and let them think for themselves.
@Dimik72 Dear Proffesor I stated we are "300 million strong", and the fastest growing Christian faith in the world.We are stronger in faith now,especially in the aftermathof the divisions of Serbia.Times have Changed.
Has the West not bombed it's own Christian brothers?The 4th Crusade led to an eventual dramatic change in World History,where you have the spread of little mohammadittes spread through out the Balkans and now the known world.I also would not wish anyone to hate Westerners .
@Dimik72 Dear Sir not in theory,but in reality there is nothing deceased about Byzantium.We are alive.I may be proud of My Greek heritage but I am a Christian first with family roots in Constantinople for many years.I am not dead I am living proof of a Byzantine Orthodox in Life , In Faith, and as Jesus Christ as My God.My Churchs Coat of Arms is that Of The New Rome.the two headed Eagle,black and Gold, as it is my Family's.We date back to the Emperor Paleologos.
@TheDingoSA And again, I do not intend to argue with how you want to feel. We are all entitled to our own identities. The Byzantine identity was, however, a cultural, linguistic, religious, and political identity that produced strong allegiances to a specific political community. It is impossible to reconstruct that. It ended in 1453. We are all in some ways heirs to aspects of it if we come from the Balkans, whether we are Greeks, Slavs, or Turks.
@Dimik72 Yes least Sir and I do not argue with you.We all have our Identities.As Omogenia of the Empire that Ended in Constantinople in 1453,Many of us still continue at least our Faith in Christianity. We hold a stong bond to Constantinople and the Founding fathers of our Faith after Christ.But we also trace our roots.
Have a blessed day and thank you for your insight.
Mmmmm... i'm not sure your statement is true. Who invented mathematics and who were the architects?
I'll answer it for you, the two architects were both mathematicians Isidore and Anthemius tought and trained by muslim mathematicians. Arabs ie muslims invented maths by the way. Thus, the hagia sofia would not be there was it not for muslim inginuity. The muslims are well capable of making magnificent buildings, the blue mosque for example. Can you defend your statment?
@Donvalerio I am sorry to be critical but if you look at a timeline of history you will note that Islam appeared on the scene in the 7th century and the Hagia Sophia was built in the sixth. Mathematics is a field where Greeks did excel even if of course they owe a lot to Mesopotamian and Egyptian advances that came before them.
The great Mosques of Istanbul all came at least a thousand years after the Hagia Sophia and aimed to surpass the HS. I leave it to you to decide if they succeeded.
@Donvalerio i sure can! the blue mosque was built about thousand plus years after agia sophia why agia sophia is still standing with its enormous dome? and today they still cant figure out how they didit those days ? well lets see, nothing in modern turkey is historically there own but greek. greek Rigorous arguments first appeared in Greek mathematics, most notably in Euclid's Elements. Mathematics continued to develop, China in 300 BC, in India in AD 100, and in the Muslim world in AD 800,
islam always claim everything is theirs. even this beutiful church. they even convert it by putting those excess arabic decorations around the church.perhaps its to claim that they build that buiding and its theirs.
@AnarchistRebelIion The world has watched a million like you fade away into nothing, having left nothing to preserve any shred of a memory of your short, meaningless existence. Your words are those of a man in the dark.
dangalak ayasofyanın etrafındaki 4 ayağı osmanlı mimarları yerleştirdi sen o minareleri yıkmaya kalk orası çöker, hiç bir mühendis buna bir çözüm getiremez
HAHA, have you seen the interior of the Hagia Sophia? When the MuSLIMES got a hold of it, they trashed it. What alterations did they make to it? The only thing they touched was the interior which USED to be decorated with gorgeous iconography. Now it is dilapidated with pealing wallpaper and stupid ass MuSLIME writing everywhere.
YOU DESECRATE WHAT YOU TOUCH YOU PARASITIC VERMIN!
@AnarchistRebelIion Unfortunately, even in this time and era there are uptight, arrogant and fools like you. I don't want to start a debate about Muslims and Christains, bur what do you think about the Taj Mahal. Its probably the most majestic piece of architecture. And it was built by Muslims.
you stupid sick brains , shut up , it is ISTANBUL SINCE 1453 . KNOW IT.
WE ARE BUSY, WE CAN'T MAKE FAKE PERFORMANCE LIKE YOU , VERY SOON I AM GOING TO ISTANBUL (OUR LOVELY CITY) BTW YOU CAN FUCK YOURSELF BY LOOKING JEALOUSLY TO ISTANBUL MAP
WHO CARES YOUR IDEAS, WHEN TRUTH IS TALKING IN THE HISTORY, (HUGE HONOUR TURKISH HISTORY)
you stupid sick brains , shut up , it is ISTANBUL SINCE 1453 . KNOW IT.
WE ARE BUSY, WE CAN'T MAKE FAKE PERFORMANCE LIKE YOU , VERY SOON I AM GOING TO ISTANBUL (OUR LOVELY CITY) BTW YOU CAN FUCK YOURSELF BY LOOKING JEALOUSLY TO ISTANBUL MAP
WHO CARES YOUR IDEAS, WHEN TRUTH IS TALKING IN THE HISTORY, (HUGE HONOUR TURKISH HISTORY)
Inter-faith intolerance has sparked the bloodiest conflicts in human history. It would appear to me that you all prefer spewing hate messages on the internet for this reason. I am particularly ashamed of my fellow Christians who, rather than embrace others indiscriminately (as emulated by Christ himself), choose to shout condemnations at random strangers in cyberspace, as if they have the authority judge them. Same goes for Muslims; they should let Allah himself judge a person's value, not man.
Bwahaha Jealousy!!! Go sufficate from your jealousy man... Turkey is the most fucking beautiful country in the world, it has the most beautiful, caring and supporting people in the world. This makes you sanddiggers jealous. I dont give a flying fuck what happened to the Armenians, Genocide?? who fucking cares they are dead now and they probably deserved it.
the christian genocide that was perpetrated is definitely not a lie. I have family members that lived in that time, in the area. It wasn't just armenians though... if you were christian, your life was at risk... whether you were coptic, assyrian, or armenian. read the flickering light of asia for historically PROVEN accounts of what took place. :-)
Did you know that AT LEAST 2 MILLION Christians were killed through genocide in Turkey, during World War I. These were civilians, born in Turkey, because historically, Turkey was Armenian and Greek. 1.5 MILLION Armenians were slaughtered, in addition to 500,000 Greeks!!! This is an abomination to man, and it is forgotten. What makes the Turkish genocide worse than Hitler's, was that the Germans admitted to it, and Turks wont. TO LEARN MORE, VISIT MY CHANNEL, IF YOU REALIZE THE TRUTH, ADD ME!!!!
I liked the video. It was well done. Your audio quality needs improvement though. The sound is indistinct. Slow down just a bit with your narrative and, I can't stress it enough...clear pronunciation and elucidation counts! I had to use headphones and review some audio several times to understand what was being said. That said, you're on the right track. Keep them coming. :)
Well I am still learning. Look at this as a trial balloon. I have bought a proper microphone but I also have a busy street off my desk. I need to learn how to properly clear the sound. thanks for the comments though.
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harbiye100 3 months ago
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kody17166 7 months ago
I am just pushing a bit on categories. The Ottomans used a many Greeks, Armenians, Slavs, Italians and so on as members of their ruling elites. While the empire was been ruled by a Turkic Sultan it was managed by a multiethnic officialdom who defined themselves as Ottoman subjects. So that is why Turkish ruled is somewhat inaccurate. Now in modern nationalist discourse we have things simpler so that we can easily hate each other. In history things are more complex and fascinating.
Dimik72 10 months ago
@Dimik72 you really hate greek history. i put it down to jelousy. im guesssing you are turkish, if thats true, tell me one peice of history your country has that doesnt influence hatred and war.
ThePsAgent 6 months ago in playlist Hagia Sophia
You defined yourself as Greek. No Byzantine ever did that until Plethon, whose works were burned by the clergy. So unless you feel Roman, you appreciate your Roman past, and you think of Rome as the roots of your history and culture, then you are not Byzantine. You bear cultural traits associated with Byzantium but Orthodoxy was just part of the Byzantine Roman identity. The rest is modern Greek national fiction. Nothing bad with it. All nations use fictions like that, it is just not history.
Dimik72 10 months ago
@Dimik72 We define ourselves as greeks as we are. But there is no Greek without being Roman and no Roman without being Greek.
TheDingoSA 10 months ago
@Dimik72 You haven't fully understood the meaning of the word "Roman", so you make some mistakes.
The name Roman stopped being a national/racial name and became a political term. This happened gradualy & naturally because of the great expansion & of the mentality of the Roman empire and was formalized in 212 AD (Constitutio Antoniana).
So, being Roman doesn't mean you can't be Greek or Armenian etc.
Lhein33 2 months ago
Hagia Sofia is Greek, no one denies that, do they?? The thing is unlike the mosques in Greece, Hagia Sofia has been taken good care till now! It has been under Turkish ruled country for more than last 550 years and you can come visit to see this beauty and you are always welcome! I really would like to see the friendship of Greece and Turkey even more strenghten! We should promote the friendship not conflicts. You gotta see this song from: watch?v=wuR3cstWoCE
kahvevotka 11 months ago
@kahvevotka Actually the Hagia Sophia is Roman. The building was created by the Roman Emperor Justinian. It is the apex of Roman architecture, built with cement and bricks (both perfected by the Romans). No Byzantine ever considered HS as Greek. In fact no Byzantine ever felt Greek, unless he were an erudite musing about Plato. Also, the HS has indeed been well taken care of by the Ottomans and then the Turks. But the two are not the same. There were non-Turkish Ottomans (the majority in fact).
Dimik72 10 months ago
@Dimik72 Thank you for the clarification on Roman Greek issue :) but about Ottoman thing i did not understand your claim, i used "Turkish ruled country" for Ottoman and today's Turkiye ??
kahvevotka 10 months ago
@kahvevotka are you from turkey?
kody17166 7 months ago
@kody17166 yes?
kahvevotka 7 months ago
@kahvevotka i am from greece you have a point but there are many things tha keep apart turkey and greece like constantinoupole
kody17166 7 months ago
@kody17166 sure, but the thing is what we are focusing on! We have issues to solve, we all know that but we also have countless common things that make us one. We should be able to talk about our issues but when you start to talk only about your issues it is not showing the reality. It is making harder to solve our problems and it is spreading the hate. As people start to communicate, they are feeling more closed to each other which helps solving issues, which helps enjoying the life together
kahvevotka 7 months ago
@kahvevotka what's your name?
kody17166 7 months ago
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kahvevotka 7 months ago
@kahvevotka do you have facebook or msn ?
kody17166 7 months ago
my name is stathis
kody17166 7 months ago
my name is stathis do you have msn or facebook in order to talk?
kody17166 7 months ago
@kahvevotka
kody17166 7 months ago
@kahvevotka do you have fb or msn in order to talk?
kody17166 7 months ago
@kody17166 sent to your own youtube page
kahvevotka 7 months ago
@kahvevotka i am new and i dont know how to handle my account
kody17166 7 months ago
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kahvevotka 7 months ago
@kahvevotka i send you a friendship invitation in youtube
kody17166 7 months ago
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im1hecticwog 1 year ago
Agia sofia is Greek !!
JerryTsitas 1 year ago
Hagia sophia is a church, not a mosque
DaBoomz13 1 year ago
I am a historian. I produced this video two years ago for my students. Could the Greek and Turkish nationalist neanderthals who post here just take their fight to some street away from here. This is about a monument that is significant as a way to understand an important long deceased civilization. The complexes of testosterone filled Greeks and Turks who can barely write and can certainly not communicate in basic civility are not of interest to me.
Dimik72 1 year ago 15
@Dimik72
Thank you for this video. The sound is a bit indistinct, but the images are wonderful! I agree with you about the quarreling and bickering comments and would like to suggest that you set your video so that you moderate all comments? That way, you can approve what is and is not posted on your video.
azdana 1 year ago
@Dimik72 The civilization Proffesor is not deceased, we are 300 million strong we are called the Eastern Orthodox Church. We may have had been run out and genocide against us but we still exist. Please do not forget about the 4th Crusade your students will find that facinating as is the beautiful building dedicated to christ.
TheDingoSA 1 year ago
@TheDingoSA I am afraid that there is no historical reason for considering the 300 million Orthodox people as one entity. The Byzantine certainly never felt that way and were happy to gouge the eyes of Bulgarian enemies. As for the modern Orthodox, well two Balkan wars showed well how united they are. My students do find the 4th Crusade fascinating. I do not, however, use it to make them hate westerners and exalt Orthodoxy. I just teach it and let them think for themselves.
Dimik72 11 months ago
@Dimik72 Dear Proffesor I stated we are "300 million strong", and the fastest growing Christian faith in the world.We are stronger in faith now,especially in the aftermathof the divisions of Serbia.Times have Changed.
Has the West not bombed it's own Christian brothers?The 4th Crusade led to an eventual dramatic change in World History,where you have the spread of little mohammadittes spread through out the Balkans and now the known world.I also would not wish anyone to hate Westerners .
TheDingoSA 10 months ago
@Dimik72 DEATH TO CANADA KILL ALL BRITS KILL ALL SCOTS. BRITISH AND DCOTTISH ARE NEANDERTHALS
ALL EUROPEAN LANGUAGES AND LATIN LANGUAGE ARE GREEK CREATION
AND THE GREEKS CREATED THE HUMANITY
THE GREEKS ARE MOST SMARTEST PERSONS EVER
THE GREEKS CREATED THE WORLDWIDE POLITISM
THE GREEKS CREATED THE MUSIC
THE GREEKS CREATED CIVILAZATION
THE GREEKS CREATED THR LOGIC OF HUMANITY BRAIN
ART, CULTURE, KNOWLEDGE, PHILOSOFY ALL THEY ARE BY GREEKS. AND MANY OTHERS.
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
THE HAGIA SOPHIA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@Dimik72 Dear Sir not in theory,but in reality there is nothing deceased about Byzantium.We are alive.I may be proud of My Greek heritage but I am a Christian first with family roots in Constantinople for many years.I am not dead I am living proof of a Byzantine Orthodox in Life , In Faith, and as Jesus Christ as My God.My Churchs Coat of Arms is that Of The New Rome.the two headed Eagle,black and Gold, as it is my Family's.We date back to the Emperor Paleologos.
TheDingoSA 10 months ago
@TheDingoSA And again, I do not intend to argue with how you want to feel. We are all entitled to our own identities. The Byzantine identity was, however, a cultural, linguistic, religious, and political identity that produced strong allegiances to a specific political community. It is impossible to reconstruct that. It ended in 1453. We are all in some ways heirs to aspects of it if we come from the Balkans, whether we are Greeks, Slavs, or Turks.
Dimik72 10 months ago
@Dimik72 Yes least Sir and I do not argue with you.We all have our Identities.As Omogenia of the Empire that Ended in Constantinople in 1453,Many of us still continue at least our Faith in Christianity. We hold a stong bond to Constantinople and the Founding fathers of our Faith after Christ.But we also trace our roots.
Have a blessed day and thank you for your insight.
TheDingoSA 10 months ago
@AnarchistRebellion
Mmmmm... i'm not sure your statement is true. Who invented mathematics and who were the architects?
I'll answer it for you, the two architects were both mathematicians Isidore and Anthemius tought and trained by muslim mathematicians. Arabs ie muslims invented maths by the way. Thus, the hagia sofia would not be there was it not for muslim inginuity. The muslims are well capable of making magnificent buildings, the blue mosque for example. Can you defend your statment?
Donvalerio 1 year ago
@Donvalerio I am sorry to be critical but if you look at a timeline of history you will note that Islam appeared on the scene in the 7th century and the Hagia Sophia was built in the sixth. Mathematics is a field where Greeks did excel even if of course they owe a lot to Mesopotamian and Egyptian advances that came before them.
The great Mosques of Istanbul all came at least a thousand years after the Hagia Sophia and aimed to surpass the HS. I leave it to you to decide if they succeeded.
Dimik72 1 year ago 2
@Donvalerio i sure can! the blue mosque was built about thousand plus years after agia sophia why agia sophia is still standing with its enormous dome? and today they still cant figure out how they didit those days ? well lets see, nothing in modern turkey is historically there own but greek. greek Rigorous arguments first appeared in Greek mathematics, most notably in Euclid's Elements. Mathematics continued to develop, China in 300 BC, in India in AD 100, and in the Muslim world in AD 800,
Grkgod4uturks 1 year ago
islam always claim everything is theirs. even this beutiful church. they even convert it by putting those excess arabic decorations around the church.perhaps its to claim that they build that buiding and its theirs.
sushiandmorihiko 1 year ago
The MuSLIMES could never build something this magnificent, they needed to steal other people's labors.
AnarchistRebelIion 2 years ago 29
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okay we stole your building!!! GOOD FIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTT idiot get a fucking life
kadiir75 2 years ago
hahhahah what about Taj mahal? and what about Alhmabara in Spain??
mewoone 2 years ago 2
what do you think about sultanahmet or blue mosq and selimiye?
mammaTurki 2 years ago
learn to loose, ottoman empire rule lml
FRAPYDO 2 years ago
@FRAPYDO
LEARN TO SPELL!
AnarchistRebelIion 2 years ago
@AnarchistRebelIion u r not an anarchist...
aporia82 1 year ago
@AnarchistRebelIion The world has watched a million like you fade away into nothing, having left nothing to preserve any shred of a memory of your short, meaningless existence. Your words are those of a man in the dark.
dlong6184 1 year ago
@AnarchistRebelIion
dangalak ayasofyanın etrafındaki 4 ayağı osmanlı mimarları yerleştirdi sen o minareleri yıkmaya kalk orası çöker, hiç bir mühendis buna bir çözüm getiremez
aksamgunesiim 9 months ago
@AnarchistRebelIion MUSLIMS built the west mate, hugia was a shitty church muslims turned it in to a beautiful mosque
Angles786 9 months ago
@Angles786
HAHA, have you seen the interior of the Hagia Sophia? When the MuSLIMES got a hold of it, they trashed it. What alterations did they make to it? The only thing they touched was the interior which USED to be decorated with gorgeous iconography. Now it is dilapidated with pealing wallpaper and stupid ass MuSLIME writing everywhere.
YOU DESECRATE WHAT YOU TOUCH YOU PARASITIC VERMIN!
AnarchistRebelIion 9 months ago
@AnarchistRebelIion who created Taj mahal??? come and visit Mughal architecture in India and Pakistan!!
mmnoorh 7 months ago
@AnarchistRebelIion Unfortunately, even in this time and era there are uptight, arrogant and fools like you. I don't want to start a debate about Muslims and Christains, bur what do you think about the Taj Mahal. Its probably the most majestic piece of architecture. And it was built by Muslims.
504890 6 months ago
@AnarchistRebelIion What about suleymaniye mosque? it was build by sinan,muslim of course
asyrafx15 3 months ago
send your girlfriend to me , I will satisfy her more than you and let her decide who is gay ok
;)
PEACE AT HOME , PEACE IN THE WORLD !!!
bertugy 2 years ago
wonder your face so much , you ugly , just shut up
send your girlfriend to me , I will satisfy her more than you and let her decide who is gay ok
;)
bertugy 2 years ago
SICK !!!
bertugy 2 years ago
HAHAHA
REALLY REALLY FUNNY :)))
bertugy 2 years ago
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF , YOU MOTHER AND UNCLE FUCKER,
FUCKKKK OFFFFFFFFFF ONES CAN JUST LAUGH WHAT YOU SAY , THIS HAPPENED IN 1453 :p SICK BRAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YEARS YEARS AGO .....
bertugy 2 years ago
btw check it from somewhere ;
ISTAN = MEANS LANDSCAPE IN TURKISH, OH ! GOD WHAT I AM DOING I FORGOT SUDDENLY YOU WERE CLOSED MIND STUPID IDIOT.
GO ON TO BE FUCKED UP BY GETTING FURIOUS JEALOUSLY WITH SUCH KIND OF FUNNY AND FAKE STORIES
!
bertugy 2 years ago
ou are ignorant indeed, you sick brain;
Turkey has not got any camels, but if you want to get fuck on camels you can visit somewhere else,
read ! ok I can advise you to read some books ; do not be closed mind , be open mind ! and face the facts,
I will not explain you sth , because you are 100% stupid, so you are too stupid to understand what happened in the past.
bertugy 2 years ago
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you stupid sick brains , shut up , it is ISTANBUL SINCE 1453 . KNOW IT.
WE ARE BUSY, WE CAN'T MAKE FAKE PERFORMANCE LIKE YOU , VERY SOON I AM GOING TO ISTANBUL (OUR LOVELY CITY) BTW YOU CAN FUCK YOURSELF BY LOOKING JEALOUSLY TO ISTANBUL MAP
WHO CARES YOUR IDEAS, WHEN TRUTH IS TALKING IN THE HISTORY, (HUGE HONOUR TURKISH HISTORY)
;)
bertugy 2 years ago
you stupid sick brains , shut up , it is ISTANBUL SINCE 1453 . KNOW IT.
WE ARE BUSY, WE CAN'T MAKE FAKE PERFORMANCE LIKE YOU , VERY SOON I AM GOING TO ISTANBUL (OUR LOVELY CITY) BTW YOU CAN FUCK YOURSELF BY LOOKING JEALOUSLY TO ISTANBUL MAP
WHO CARES YOUR IDEAS, WHEN TRUTH IS TALKING IN THE HISTORY, (HUGE HONOUR TURKISH HISTORY)
;)
bertugy 2 years ago
Inter-faith intolerance has sparked the bloodiest conflicts in human history. It would appear to me that you all prefer spewing hate messages on the internet for this reason. I am particularly ashamed of my fellow Christians who, rather than embrace others indiscriminately (as emulated by Christ himself), choose to shout condemnations at random strangers in cyberspace, as if they have the authority judge them. Same goes for Muslims; they should let Allah himself judge a person's value, not man.
jawhitfield1992 2 years ago
In addition, as EcCctoplasma does, we should take pride in our beliefs. However, let us not condemn others for the sake of our pride.
jawhitfield1992 2 years ago
it is ISTANBUL , NOT STH ELSE , YOU MAN !!!
bertugy 2 years ago
Bwahaha Jealousy!!! Go sufficate from your jealousy man... Turkey is the most fucking beautiful country in the world, it has the most beautiful, caring and supporting people in the world. This makes you sanddiggers jealous. I dont give a flying fuck what happened to the Armenians, Genocide?? who fucking cares they are dead now and they probably deserved it.
KaisDentarg 3 years ago
This is his personal opinion... I believe most Turks will not endorse this statement.
vineyardst1 2 years ago 3
what about the armenian genolie?
CadVentor 3 years ago
the christian genocide that was perpetrated is definitely not a lie. I have family members that lived in that time, in the area. It wasn't just armenians though... if you were christian, your life was at risk... whether you were coptic, assyrian, or armenian. read the flickering light of asia for historically PROVEN accounts of what took place. :-)
wyldeone22 2 years ago 8
@wyldeone22 dont forget the greeks in the area, close to 2million dead and 3 more affected
mrh3tic 1 year ago
Profecy say : the turks will pay...the heaven will rain fire to thems...
the Greeks will return ...and the earth will shake !!
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
Constantinopole..
We will be back!
Sharped1Arrow 3 years ago
hahahahahahaha
mammaTurki 3 years ago
hahahahaha very funny
187TurkishOG 3 years ago
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Did you know that AT LEAST 2 MILLION Christians were killed through genocide in Turkey, during World War I. These were civilians, born in Turkey, because historically, Turkey was Armenian and Greek. 1.5 MILLION Armenians were slaughtered, in addition to 500,000 Greeks!!! This is an abomination to man, and it is forgotten. What makes the Turkish genocide worse than Hitler's, was that the Germans admitted to it, and Turks wont. TO LEARN MORE, VISIT MY CHANNEL, IF YOU REALIZE THE TRUTH, ADD ME!!!!
ITSKonstantinoupolis 3 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
MEHMETCIK76 3 years ago
I liked the video. It was well done. Your audio quality needs improvement though. The sound is indistinct. Slow down just a bit with your narrative and, I can't stress it enough...clear pronunciation and elucidation counts! I had to use headphones and review some audio several times to understand what was being said. That said, you're on the right track. Keep them coming. :)
mcseeker1453 3 years ago
Well I am still learning. Look at this as a trial balloon. I have bought a proper microphone but I also have a busy street off my desk. I need to learn how to properly clear the sound. thanks for the comments though.
Dimik72 3 years ago