Derren Brown NLP

[The656]

i grew a flower and that guy drew a tree lol CLOSE ENOUGH

[vid0pteryx]

Split screen with faked 'mistakes' from Derren, folks. Pretty simple.

[lilyangelcharles101]

WOW!!! I did what the Phycologist was doing with the drawing and the thinking and I was thinking of a white tiger turned to the side and I drew a carrot!! I know it's not exactly the same but it's pretty close to what the guy was thinking and what he drew!!!

[anthonyswissspencer1]

is it not more likely that while he was distracted and drawing the tree Derren persuaded him that the secret image he had locked away was a cat when it wasnt? check the sketch where he persuades Simon Pegg that what he really wants for christmas is a bmx!!!

[imshippyupup]

I love the contradiction Derren throws at him at the very beginning... he has to actually make an association when he chooses a "disassociative" word. Very clever.

[citymovers]

meow in the moment

[GregTom2]

everybody thinks about a freking cat, I tell you, they could dominate the planet if they knew (the cats)

[Sesquiltera]

NLP - 1 , Mainstream psychology - 0

[Fangornmmc]

even at 6:3 he still uplls a nlp trick namely to alter the way you shake hands (he lays his other hand on top of the shaken hand) slightly, this makes people more influencable/

[zakiemon]

I'm confused though, did Derren Brown get the first couple words wrong? I am not calling him out, I really like his tricks, but were those words a couple slip ups or what?

[ZenMoodi]

@zakiemon yeah 2 of 5 programmings failed i guess^^

[Hellgrinder0]

@zakiemon the orange was closeish. but everyones a bit different so you cant be right all that tiem

[Zato1chi]

Wow, I blurted out cat myself at the bottom of the countdown and I was hardly paying attention to the stuff he was saying, or so I thought lmao, they totally modeled Simon Baker after Derren imo, never ceases to baffle. *****

[somefred]

"feel free to change your mind and try to CATch me out...."

[johncena3742]

does any one know what the name of he's job is

[FasStudio]

@johncena3742

He is a mentalist. It is a type of magician.

[HabeKeinMitleid]

@FasStudio He's definitely not a mentalist or any form of that. He's a social engineer to be general. It's an art form but practices for social engineering usually don't include magician work, only technical demonstrations as seen here.

[retrocareermelted]

neurolinguistic programmer

[TheChariotdriver]

Around 3:53 Derren instructs the DR to try to "catch me out" This could be taken as

Cat, meow,t The cat on the side, tail raised is probably how most would draw it anyway.

[HabeKeinMitleid]

@TheChariotdriver You are correct good sir. Very nice indeed. He is definitely one of the best. Just simply fluent.

[Daanzk]

@TheChariotdriver Yep, you are spot on. Also, notice how after he explains the basics of the exercise he throws out words like Picture, Image, World, and then continues with Feel free. The first thing I thought of was a field. Its hard to draw just a field thats why the guy draws the grass and the trees. And then he tells the guy to change his mind and comes up with the Catch me out, making the guy change the image in his mind to the cat. Check out Derrens face at 6:09 when he knows its spot on

[cactush2]

wait a second..if this is nlp, then Darren must've implicitly said something before the drawing exercise to get him thinking of the cat/side view/tail raised, right? but when did that take place? because he hardly said anything to him before the Dr. began drawing. was it during the word dissociation game?

[win1337]

Who knows, he may not have even been thinking of a cat, and Derren may have convinced him somehow he was (although it's unlikely, cat in a tree).

[trailsanddeer]

it's all covert hypnosis and suggestion

[surangasa]

You see the thing is that, there are people who are not influenced by these and if you crack them then, you can figure out a near perfect persuasion scheme that is lightening fast and sun down persistent.

[CraCraBear]

What.... What the fuck ... I thought of a cat and a tree too. What the fuck?

[PrfessorOProductions]

yeah wtf .. i thought of a tree too. not the cat necessarily but the tree definitely .. WOW

[bcn001]

yes, this happened to me too. I immediately thought of a tree. How spooky.

[surangasa]

Don't worry since, its not in any way dangerous to you although I suggest that, you don't watch these videos at any longer.

[xSilverPhinx]

He's fascinating.

[crazyboy554]

dang it my computer is messed up

the sound goes on and off during the video

[ScottSharpeNJ]

Ok wow. I followed along with the second part (i was bored) and my "secret picture" was a big arrow pointing up.

I didn't draw anything but my first reaction was to draw a tree....just like the one he drew...weird.

[Olzme]

ROFL ownage.

[combo14]

Lol I thought of pig and tree

[G3nsai]

I seriously thought of pig too. Coincidence?

[fluentinsound]

Thought process:

Eat + variation (ing)

human instinctive dissociation - swim or water

he heard a eat in a context so feels obliged to put dissociation in a certain context

water + variation (ski)

[fluentinsound]

typo

[ApatheticReverend]

As for the secret picture, the second thing DB asked the psychologist was "picture" and the doctor replied 'horse'. When asking for teh secret picture, DB says two big NLP things that really get to the doctor:

1. "I want you to PICTURE something in your mind for me, as long as it's a SIMPLE and RECOGNIZABLE thing." (He also says "really try to CATCH ME OUT" which could be why the doctor drew a tree, but I'm thinking that was more not intended then an embedded message)

[purplehaze2144]

well CATCH ME OUT is basically CAT MEOW. if thats not an embed i dont know what is

[ApatheticReverend]

Well I'd definitely miss that one, if that was what DB was going for.

[rdoetjes]

I am amazed that you guys fall for this word game explanation. Derren says in the beginning magic..... We just don't see what has happened completely we have a different view of the picture. In NLP terms we have a different frame than the shrink has.

[ApatheticReverend]

First of all, although he was asked to choose things that had little to no relation to what DB was saying (suit), it's too hard to really think of something completely different (you wear suits to work, and you love lunch breaks at work). Food is one of the first things that came to mind also because we think about it a bit too much(3+ meals a day). Also DB saying for us to keep it "simple" makes us think 'banana' and not 'cheeseburger'.

[ApatheticReverend]

Okay guys... I got some ideas of how Derren Brown pulled this off so nicely.

[ApatheticReverend]

2. DB tells him to imagine the image he has in his head very vividly and bright, so when the doctor draws a picture that is supposed to have little to do with the secret picture, the secret image has much to do with the drawn image (Cats climb trees, they're an animal, and they're simple and recognizable. Whether or not the 'CATCH ME OUT' embedded language had anything to do with choose a tree and cat, I'm not sure.

[ApatheticReverend]

I hope this helps the guys who are totally confused, as I was until re watching this a few times.

[eddy87su]

this is just fucking sick, as he finished talking to the shrink, I instantly tought of a cat and a car, and then a picture of a tree just popped into my mind, and i changed it to cat and tree.When the shrink turned over the tree, I was scared, and when Derren said "it's probably not a dogg..." well that just freaked me out!I know it's pure psychology but it's still creepy!

[rdoetjes]

*yawn* Cars, Cats, Houses, Trees are some of the most drawn images when you ask a person on the spot to draw something. It means nothing more than that you are just human.

[LexManSubs]

WHAT THE FUCK

I thought of a cat on a side view with its tail in the air!??!?!

[thecdp07]

awesome but does anyone know the music?

[LuneyTune72]

now> cow> buffalo

[TorugaMagic]

Dual reality...

[mikibgd]

darren should be out in jail for deceiving public ...

[blinkyd182]

lol, he is that good

[toastedpiano]

LMFHO, I got a giraffe and then an elephant side on, but I had the giraffe from a rear three quarter angle turning its head. WTF.

[shawnamb]

Without reading Derren's guesses:

Instead of Orange, I thought of Carrot

Instead of Trash, I though of Dog (closer to the man's choice of Horse)

Instead of Water Ski, I thought of Diving Board.

Instead of School, I thought of House.

Instead of Buffalo, I thought of Cow.

Finally, I didn't think of a drawing, but my Secret Image was Cat!!

It's weird how similar all of those are.

[ArcticSheep]

i thought a tree also lol cool

[fluentinsound]

word dissociation -

can see the thought process when he hears

Suit > (fruit) > apple

[Zaklro]

I was thinking of something completely different to that...

I had a minatour in my mind and I had chosen a spoon to draw..xD

[fluentinsound]

different... but the same. minatour and elephant tusk (same group). spoon and bottle of ketchup (same group)

[mcplump]

love u

[fluentinsound]

a tree nd a cat? hes practically playin into his hands! shoulda caught him out with an elephant tusk and a bottle of ketchup lol

[jomayor]

you wouldnt havee a choice what to think...and the picture gives him no clues...he puts the image of the cat in the guys mind before he even thinks of it

[fluentinsound]

even if the guys mind had been compromised, he should have decided to contradict his own instinct. a tree and a cat is insultingly obvious. hes just a simple guy thats all. and also theres sposd to be no connection at all but an tree n cat, theyre definately connected

[fluentinsound]

infact if you think of the very basic, fundamental, simple, recognisable things in the world, the very first thing would be a circle or a square or something, then the next thing up would be a tree, or a cat, or a man or something. he's not exactly testing derren.

[fluentinsound]

derrens says ANYTHING in the whole world as long as its a simple, recognisable thing. now, a wine glass, a microphone, a plate, a lawnmower. these are all in the endless spectrum of simple recognisable things are are. hes spoilt for choice. but he goes for a 'tree and a cat' duhh.

[fluentinsound]

if we did a survey around the world asking people to name two 'simple', 'recognisable' things (using those words), i would think almost everyones first instinct would be 2 of about only 8 things. basic human psychology. a tree, man, dog, cat, car, bed. etc. derren knows this becuase he finishes the sentence using those words. subtly leaving it as the last though in the guys mind before he make the decision.

[fluentinsound]

derren knows this will happen, and knows that his odds of getting it right will be substancially narrowed. this is how derren make it look like an incredible feat

[johntkucz]

your analysis sounds bright, but it ultimately feeble and lacking details of nlp and suggestion and anchors too LOL (i dont' know what those are in this though :D ) haha!

[11J0311]

i was thinkin of a tree nd a dog. thats so fuckin kl

[AbstractReaIity]

This is simple. Derren is fabricating a memory, he suggests that it was a cat while it could have been anything initially. Our memory is nothing like a filing cabinet, Derren shows just how flexible it is. Brilliant stuff.

[soham]

does that have anything to do with 3:54 "catch me out"? :D

[DjifixAnime]

When i saw the tree i thought of a squirrel xD... Well mind secret thought was meat though...

[Dan8477]

My secret image was an aeroplane, but I was thinking of a tree very similar to his...

[o2dav]

in the begining there was a view of a tree for a second

[o2dav]

i was thinking of a tree and a shoe

[puddin8743]

Give me a break! I'll bet this guy has made a ton of money off of this crap... how can you sleep at nite pal?

[bartschillings]

omg i was think of a dog with that tree how fuckin weird