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  • Cut trees cut trees if you a tree hugger we cut y'all too

  • filthy dirty hippies discust me . hugging trees will soon be outlawd due to the possable chance of giving the trees an STD. if we all work together we can rid the world of tree huggers, it should be easy. just tell them to get jobs and stop being pussies.they will run hide lol

  • The legendary Tree Beard has spoken!

  • People still use that special olympics quote? Do people ever think of how stupid they look whenever they use that over the internet? No, go ahead, use it again. It isn't like you actually are stupid or anything.

  • Well done laddy! Great video here indeed! Those hippies need to lay off the grass and let the sane people worry about the trees, we'll take good care of them. Best wishes,

    Sean Connery

  • @Inoitspointless Everyone knows trees exude oxygen... and who gives a flying fuck about pollution? Its not really hurting anything... As for trees and oxygen? Well... We have enough trees im all for burning 3/4 of all trees to the ground JUST to make a point.

  • @XboxLiveSpartan001 Not only do trees give off oxygen they clean the soil, control noise pollution, slow storm water runoff, carbon sinks, clean the air, shade and cool, windbreakers, soil errosion! If you want to make a point go live in the desert or at least a parking lot!

  • @53muse Yes yes i know all that what do that have to do with anything? like i said 3/4 so we still have enough to live on! Plus other plants do the same thing

  • @XboxLiveSpartan001 What other plant is tall enough to shade you, or break the winds, or for that fact stop noise pollution or any of the above things I stated above as well as trees you are grasping at straws!

  • @53muse We dont need any of that lol fuck that... cut the tree down build a shed for shade

  • @XboxLiveSpartan001 I have a better idea, using your point! YOU GO LIVE IN THE DESERT AND BUILD YOURSELF A SHED!

  • @53muse I do live in the desert and i did build this shed actually... lol

  • @XboxLiveSpartan001 Don't forget to cut down all the trees!

  • @XboxLiveSpartan001 You wouldn't want protection from the wind, or shade outside!

  • this video is so stupid they are making fun of hippies. what the heck is with these people. they're so racest. and my friend is partly a hippie, and if you think that hippies are stupid you are stupid.

  • @SuperLiNdSeYjOnEs Your a fucking retard lol First of all its spelled RACIST and second HIPPIE is not a RACE! And third... Your trying to say hippies arent stupid? DID YOU EVEN WATCH THIS OR ANY OTHER OF THOSE TREEHUGGER VIDEOS?

  • YOUR FACE GOD DAMMIT!

  • nice trees speaks english so

  • just to put my opinion i think is stupid that they crying over a tree and not over the creator of heaven and earth lol to funny thou lol

  • lol i consider myself an environmentalist, and even i laughed my ass off at this XD.

  • Why do people hate hippies so much? Our society is filled with so much hate nowadays. Why is that?

  • @youdevil6 Not hippies so much as extremists. I care for the environment but that doesn't mean I'm going to go cry if someone cuts down wood for a fire.

  • @youdevil6

    It's not the hippies, it's the idiocracy they represent.

  • @youdevil6 Because they smell and they don't live in the real world.

  • he never did reply for fido did he......

  • @Adamguy2003

    No. Bigotry doesn't apply to made up , bullshit, wishful-thinking beliefs. Want to know why, fuckhead? All religious worldviews have exactly the same epistemological footing. Namely, none at all. Religious freaks make shit up and believe it. They could give a fuck about Evidence, Rationality, Reason, Logic, Coherence, Verification, Falsification, or any Epistemic Standards WHATSOFUCKINGEVER. They make shit up , and demand respect for it. Making fun of that is not bigotry.You lose

  • @beesleeper You really don't think bigotry applies to religious belief? You're dumber than I thought (Which is saying something). What about the tens of millions of Christians who've been persecuted, tortured, and executed in Communist nations alone for refusing to become Atheists? Any rational human being (Which rules you out, apparently) would see that they were indeed the victims of state- sanctioned bigotry.

    You lose, troll.

  • @Adamguy2003 Hippie is not a religious belief, it is an advanced state of unemployment.

  • @LegionPrime hahaha love it

  • It's an Ent!!

  • Hillarious video! :) Thanks! :)

  • Beggin' for the power saw...thats funny!

  • Love the video. beesleeper, you seem to like stereotyping, have a closed mind that will allow no opinions other than your own. Isn't that the opposite of what you lefties "stand" for? You also have a foul mouth and are obviously full of hate. This is America, love it or leave it!

  • Listen to all the Christian Republican pendejos respond to this video, when back in their sorry-ass fucking republican / red states they don't have any fucking wilderness to even hike or hunt in. You fucking clowns from kentucky and mississippi and the carolinas think a few thousand acres is "out in the woods"...LMAO. Fucking joke Ted Nugent walks a mile into "the woods" and he thinks he's a fucking great outdoor huntsman, when he is a fucking joke who needs bait to hunt. Fucking clowns.

  • @beesleeper wow a mindless strawman rant of stupidity from a wing nut. Who could have expected that?

  • Republicans are cowards because (1) they need some fucking Sky Daddy / God bullshit to feel special and safe

    (2) They NEVER confront the owning class. Instead, they suck off the owning class, suck off the bosses, suck off the owners. They do ANYTHING to please their plutocratic masters.

  • @beesleeper Oh only Republicans believe in God? Wow holy fail batman! You are priceless. I think now though that you are really just making fun of liberals by acting this retarded. Very accurate though I must say but just too honest for any real liberal to admit openly.

  • @Astrochronic

    That was supposed to make sense , stupid fuck? No gods exist. Now go hide in your pathetic fucking church.

  • @Astrochronic His idiotic comments (i.e. only Republicans believe in God) should not surprise you; He's an ignorant, obscene, bigoted buffoon whose posts are based entirely on baseless stereotypes and strawmen of what he thinks Christians are like based off of what a couple TV shows said. He's the ultimate epitome of a troll, so he should be treated like one: Ignore him, and inwardly pity him for the lonely, miserable life he must have.

  • @Adamguy2003

    Can you send your mother and wife over to pity my dog's cock ? My dog is thinking of becoming a Christian, but only if some Christian women, like your mother and wife and sister, can, you know... climb up the cross.

    And by the way, bigotry as a concept does not apply to worldviews or whatever mythology you choose to run your mouth about. Bigotry only applies to Race, Gender and Class, not your bullshit religion. But get back to me on your mother and sister. Fido is waiting.

  • @beesleeper Bigotry as a concept most definitely applies to religious views, you buffoon. People of all faiths have had to deal with bigotry and persecution for what they believe throughout the ages. Just because your hatred of Christianity makes you think it is somehow exempt, doesn't make it so.

    Oh, and what a charming, witty fellow you are. With such intelligent, classy comments as yours and your wonderfully sunny personality, you should have no trouble getting people to side with you! sarc.

  • Ahhh, arguing on the internet. It never gets old, just like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded

  • @LegionPrime ahhh, stealing quotes from demotivational pictures found on google. it never gets old, no matter how creative you try to be, we see through your lies

  • @dahooligan12 way to be a troll, it's people like you who make the internet suck...

  • @dahooligan12 originality is dead and overated

  • @Dancing88Mike so is ur mother but you dont hear me complaining

  • @dahooligan12 " your mom" response thats what you've resulted too XD what a douche

  • @Dancing88Mike says the guy that doesnt even know what a douche is or does ;)

  • @dahooligan12 I do its what you've been using to clean the sand out of your vagina :P

  • @Dancing88Mike very clever. did your daddy tell you to say that? or was he too busy sucking dick to make ends meet at your house?

  • @dahooligan12 u Mad brah?

  • @Dancing88Mike you mad sis/ newfag?

  • @dahooligan12 you've lost the game

  • @Dancing88Mike and so did you

  • @dahooligan12

    Lies? What lies? Who said I was being creative?

  • @LegionPrime do you think this is a game?

  • @dahooligan12 Well if it's not a game & instead a battle of wits you are woefully unarmed & unprepared

  • @LegionPrime Well it appears you are retarded since you are not able to come up with another adjective.

  • @LegionPrime I am so guilty of this. Fuck.

  • @LegionPrime nice try newfag

  • @jldkrank Winterfag 

  • @jldkrank

    I rest my case

  • @LegionPrime derp

  • LMAO!!!

  • EPIC

  • @beesleeper ok your only little asshole nerd that can't shut up for EVER I think you need help and not all christen republicans are fat I'm only a christen but I'm 75lb (I'm only 9) don't know why I wached this you need a ass beaten fast with pattle to

  • @beesleeper first FUCK YOU ASS second SHUT UP ASS also YOU CITY JUNK don't do that

  • Actually............there is a God. There is much more evidence pointing towards a creator than anything else. It takes much more faith to believe in the "Big Band Theory" than to believe in a creator. There is right and wrong. There is black and white. If you took more time into researching the "facts" than you might also believe there is a God.

  • @bealtespip123  You're a stupid bitch. Shut up.

  • Why do Christian Republicans, who are too obese to enter "the woods" and too cowardly to look at the natural world without a bunch of fairy tale bullshit, have any opinions on trees? Just stick to your NASCAR, your worthless bible, your Buffalo Wings and donuts, your absurd country music [it's not music , but I could not think of a word for it] and your job-quitting, illiterate, whining, haggish Sarah Palin, and her dipshit fake-outdoorsman husband, TODD, who tough talks 80 year old men. Clowns.

  • @beesleeper

    A couple news flashes for you, imbecile:

    1. I weigh about 166 lbs, and I'm 6'2" tall, so that weight is very evenly distributed. I am the last person anyone in their right mind would call obese.

    2. Every summer I'm able to, I vacation in Canada. I hike in the woods, go mountain climbing, kayak, tube, and fish. I love getting back to nature, I'm just not a loon about it like these guys.

    But, go on and keep believing that all Christian Republicans fit your ignorant sterotypes.

  • @beesleeper uhhm, you want to say that to a logger? I'm fairly sure he'd beat the crap out of you, mr. keyboard commando!

    then he'd get in trouble for spanking a 12 year old kid with a smart mouth. LOL!

  • All these Christian Republican cunts are funny. They call themselves "men' and then go to some useless asshole church and suck off the preacher.

    And then suck off the company owner.

    And then call hippies and union workers a bunch of names.

    Pieces of fucking shit

    Republicans : absolute fucking garbage. Worthless, parasitic vermin SHIT.

  • @beesleeper Actually, I'd say miserable, profane, hate- filled trolls like you with nothing better to do than puke out obscene insults on a Youtube video are the ones who are "Absolute f&&king garbage." Even for a troll, you're pathetic.

  • How were her beliefs any sillier than your god/ heaven/ souls / miracles/ afterlife/ angels/ unicorns bullshit? Eh? Answer : they weren't.

  • We Americans need to purge this nation of Republicans. Legally, of course. But a purge is needed.

  • @beesleeper well then, get it done, mr. sissypants! :) pass a law that says you can shoot republicans. hey, you can even outlaw Christianity. After you do all that? I want to see you enforce those laws. hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhm

  • @towerclimber37

    Again with the bullshit machismo, you fucking clown ? Just sit on your ass reading your bible until you die of a heart attack. That's what Jesus wants, you piece of Republican shit.

  • I rather hug a tree than some fat , religious goofy, clownish Republican / Tea Bagger PIECE OF SHIT unAmerican coward.

    Republicans are the enemies of real Americans

    Republicans are enemies of the entire planet.

  • @beesleeper so Republicans are unAmerican, huh? and if they're cowards, why is it that our military is made up of mostly conservatives?

    so by your statement, American soldiers are cowards.

    I challenge you to define a "real American" Is your definition of a "real American" someone who's here illegally, votes democrat and believes that the government should provide for the people?

    I knew it was! :)

    have a nice day kid. Grow up while you're at it.

  • @towerclimber37 Yeah, asshole. I know a lot of DEMOCRAT VETERANS. In fact, some who have DIED for this nation. Indeed, I am related to some. So go fuck yourself, piece of shit. "Kid"

    Republicans are cowards because (1) they need some fucking Sky Daddy / God bullshit to feel special and safe

    (2) They NEVER confront the owning class. Instead, they suck off the owning class, suck off the bosses, suck off the owners. They do ANYTHING to please their plutocratic masters.

    GOT IT, YOU FUCK ?

  • @beesleeper Aren't we just the little potty mouth! Look kid, I'm willing to lay money on 1 thing. You wouldn't talk like this unless you're behind a computer screen. I mean, you're not that bright but you're not totally bereft of common sense.

    Republicans have been looking after your welfare for a long time now..it's nice to see how you repay them.

    I take it from your 2nd reason that you're one of those poor, uneducated dimwits that I have to pay taxes to support. Get a job then talk smack

  • @towerclimber37

    Leave America if you don't want to contribute, you stupid fucking coward.

    Now why don't you go see Jesus ? Seriously. Go to heaven and fuck Jesus or and the magical unicorns or whatever you coward Christians believe in. Why wait ? Eternal bliss and all that shit. Just eat a bullet and be in Jesus's loving arms with the kittens and angels and that happy shit you fuckstain Christian Republican cowards believe in . Seriousy, you fucking asshole, why wait? You hate the USA. LEAVE.

  • @beesleeper Why are you angry, child? you live off the kindness of others and yet you're angry that they provide that kindness. Every facet of your life benefits from Christians and yet you're angry at them. From the laws that keep you safe, to the food that you eat is crafted by Christians. I'll bet that REALLY makes you mad, eh? how about instead of ME leaving the US (because I fought for it, paid for it) I just stay right here and laugh at you? you ARE funny!

  • @beesleeper I'm waiting for you to get so angry that you start swatting at imaginary flies..you're SO angry it's laughable.

    I'm just waiting for your Jared Loughner moment. LOL! you left wing fruitcakes are always quick to violence but when you're faced with REAL trouble, you run and hide like the scared little nancy boys that you really are.

    So I'll wait and watch. say, did your mother teach you how to curse or was it that guy you think is your dad? I'm curious!

  • @towerclimber37

    Easy-to-troll republican cunt says what?

    And what kind of old coward says "nancy boy" ? Eh?

  • @beesleeper hahahah! the kind of old guy that could wipe the floor with you 3 of your friends and that guy you call your father.

  • @towerclimber37

    You just keep re-assuring yourself of that.

    Why don't you put up a youtube to show us what a badass you are, coward?

  • @beesleeper child, I'm NOT a bad man. Those days are long gone from me. When I was your age, I used to pray for wisdom. These days I pray for grace and mercy. When you grow up, (providing you make it) you'll learn wisdom too. I learned that after 10 years in the infantry. what about you, boy? where did you learn to be a bad man?

    still, on my worst day, I'm willing to bet money that I could take you so fast you wouldn't know it happened until someone was pulling the intubation tube outta ya

  • @towerclimber37

    You are one delusional fuckhead. Why don't you go kneel in church like the fucking coward you are , eh, you fucking cunt ?

    Intubation tube. You get a word-a-day calendar, you lump of shit ?

    Fuck you ,"fellow American." Hope you get a painful cancer. No fucking joke, you piece of shit.

  • @beesleeper yes yes. hey, you don't need a jacket in the winter time do you? all that hate keeps you warm! LOL!

    you really are laughable.

    Oh, and you can hope all you like..I actually have money for a decent medical plan...no cancer here pal. I'm healthy as a horse and I'll be laughing at you hippie dingbats for a long, long time.

    As for the word? I'll bet you had to look that up, didn't you? LOL!!! what a tard!!

  • @towerclimber37 Dude, don't bait the troll. Seriously. Even if he does mean half the shit he says, he's a moron.

  • @kattwoman17 yeah..you"re right. It's cheap entertainment for me though! That boy ain't got both oars in the water, if you know what I mean..and I'll probably be frowned upon for picking on the poor thing.

    still, it IS kind of fun..like pestering a rolypoly until they curl up into a ball, you know?

    :-)

  • @towerclimber37 Lol no worries, I know exactly what you mean. He's not even a Democrat, or a Liberal. He's just an asshole, AND he's stupid to boot. Hey, as long as someone is getting some kind of enjoyment out of this, then more power to ya :D

  • @kattwoman17 Good call. That's why I've stopped arguing with him. He has allowed himself to be so thoroughly consumed by blind hatred, there's not much that can be said to him. I truly pity him. I'd imagine he's the sort of person C.S. Lewis was referring to when he wrote in one of his books that "The doors of Hell are locked from the inside."

  • This is exactly what I thought...awesome.

  • Nature worship makes you stupid.

  • aaaaaaahahahahahahahahah,hahah­ahah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAH­AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • dam thats treee is talking! i knew i shouldent have eaten that fungis.

  • Some Hippies and Yippies, like myself in days past, woke up over the years and went to work, started buisnesses, and became Reaganites. Yes sad but true; people do wake up and see their lost past for what it was--communist propaganda run amok!

  • LMAO this is so great the hippies must hate this video for telling the truth.

  • rancid bison semen. funny

  • Hey touch myself touch this...faggot

  • that's creepy :O i am not going to keep watching the talking tree because it freaks me out.

  • This tree makes more sense than those liberals. Ha ha ha.

  • Hey I guess the tree is drunk as fuck... It is Irish...

  • @mehlville97 no....It's Scotch...Hence the name "Scotch Elm"......Idiot.

  • is that an irish tree....? LOL... why is the tree taliking with an irish accent..?

  • These people are extremists,not to mention "WHACKJOBS"!!!! These videos should cost Jerry Brown a few votes,because he caters to these type of people!!!!

  • i'm a hippie not a tree CRAZYYYY PERSON! I hug trees some times but.. i'm a hippie not a crying crazed person...............

  • @Samiesmiles9 Dont worry these people insult our ideals. These people are great to turn.

  • LOL Nice.

  • In the Wizard of Oz these bastard trees whipped apples at a scarecrow and a little girl.

  • @MoonbatsAreDingbats

    if moonbats are dingbats, christian republicans are natural born cowards who could not comprehend a science concept if it was shoved down their fat fucking throats

  • hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha dumb bitch ass hippies

  • stale bongwater and rancid bison semen

  • You're right - they're not "hippies", they are "tree huggers". Too bad they weren't hugging the trees that just burned down in the Flagstaff AZ Schultz fire. It's the tree huggers that made the fire ripe for burning - new plumes still showing up daily. Thank you tree huggers for scaring our beautiful land and putting our homes/lives/livestock at risk. Even more - a standing ovation of thanks to the fire fighters that are saving us.

  • ROFL

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  • "I can't reach the trees, this hurts me!"

  • You sound like a character from the bard's tale computer game. o.o

  • Where is this tree come from? His accent spans Scotland, Ireland, Eastern Europe and I swear it goes a bit oriental at times.

  • this is way funny hahahaha i love it

  • Old growth makes the best furniture....... just give it a good ol' spit & shine

  • Hahahaha !

  • i hate tree hugers!!!!!

  • i like this tree so much i would saw it down last.

  • the people commenting are way too harsh on hippies.....not all of them are like this lol

    (i would know, i live near boulder :p)

  • Hey tree huggng retards yes you xxxRAISORxxx your welfare check is made of trees.perhaps you should start your protest with rejecting your cheque.

  • you guys have no idea wats happening...tree's are loving ppl...soo fuck you...get a life..why dont you actually help us save life...with out tree you ungrateful asses would be dead...so fuck you you selfish pieces of shits...i am a tree hugger! im proud to be one!

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • carbon is my friend -- we party every day

  • Bwaaaaa hahahaHA! I'm a Horticulture student and this video says it like it is! Stupid Hippies!

  • Hippies are druggies who protest anything

  • Planting trees increases net global warming.  Oh, I just blew the mind of hippies everywhere.

  • Okay hippies. GRASS provides us with more oxygen than trees. Okay? Save the friggin' grass. Any yes. It is lazy to just sit around in the forest crying like little girls. You wanna save trees? Go chain yourselves to them in front of bulldozers like REAL treehuggers.

  • So much hate. On both sides.

  • The hippy scum sits and takes wellfare from America, then they bitch about the government not doing enough for our economy and moan when the government attempts to cut spending, all the while, they are 50 percent of the cause, and bitch and moan. I hate tree huggers, hippies, and 'activists'. If you want to make a change, pick up a rifle and attack, till then get the fuck out of my country and move to mexico. PS: why are only americans tree huggers? I swear im gonna shoot some.

  • The last thing I need are a bunch of lazy, pot smoking, sub-human hippies stinking up my lawn.

  • Wow! I didn't realise trees were so anti hippy. Well stuff them if thats their attitude. I'm handing in my kaftan and I'm off to buy a chain saw. Awesome video. I'm convinced.

  • very funny huh, stupid fking hippys

  • "We dinnae give a flying shite aboot you!"

  • stale bong water and rancid bison semen lmfao

  • LOL! This was hilarious. =P

  • nice anti-abortion hit.

  • hahahahahahahah i love this. so much.

  • 5 stars

  • haaaa. awesome.

    trees are dicks.

  • Is the jackass in the tree shaking like crazy in a thing made of WOOD?

  • That thing shaking in the tree is actually a woman (Or as near to a woman as you can find among those freaks), who apparently goes by the charming hippy nickname "Dumpster Muffin." When they finally got her down from the tree and identified her, it was revealed that there were already several outstanding warrants for her arrest for a variety of different charges.

    Oh, and yes, it looks like her structure is made from several different types of wood, or as I bet they'd call it, "Murdered trees".

  • whats with the acsent

  • i agree we should care somewhat for the environment but all those new age smuggy douche bag hippies take it overkill.

  • I agree. I can't stand lazy ass stinky hippy fucks.

  • @Bigbadbikerbob Excuse me? "Lazy ass"? Yeh coz they're actually doing something to help the environment while you are not doing a thing. It's pretty lazy ass to just sit around trying to help the Earth and save some trees which provide you with oxygen. Damn those lazy ass hippies how terrible are they

  • @penguinsfromalaska

    I have a job...and a life

  • @Bigbadbikerbob

    Did you have your fat ass beaten by someone with long hair then, you pretend fucking badass ? Eh? You piece of shit Republicans can't even cross a parking lot without having a heart attack , you fat ass fucking blobs of shit. And you can't fucking face the natural world without a bunch of goofy fucking religious shit. And you suck off the boss to keep your jobs, from being incompetent shitbags. So don't fucking pretend you are some badass when you can't even make it through a

  • @Bigbadbikerbob Lay that bike down, bike bob. Get decapitated in a bike accident. You can do it.

  • Love it!!!!!!!!

  • Mahaha. "We dont cry like little girls over you"

  • I still love this video. Favorited a long time ago.

  • say rancid bison semen 5 times quickly

  • @mcsas

    Yeah, cause all Republicans are fascists, just like Hitler.

    Ok then. If we're going along that line of thought, then all liberals are Stalinist commies.

    See? I can generalize too.

  • Who proposes abortions?Nazis and Democrats. Euthanasia? Nazis and Democrats. State run industries?Nazis and Democrats. Gun control? Yep you guessed it. Need I go on about who Is more like Hitler?

  • I was making fun of the liberal view that conservatives are fascists: I wasn't supporting it. I'm actually a republican myself, although I do share some views w/ the liberals.

    But let's not argue: it's fucking Christmas. Let's have a bit of peace on earth and goodwill to all, or however that goes. Peace!

  • @wyankeif1337 Shut the fuck up. Who asked you about a damn thing? Oh nobody because you need to get a job and have a net worth greater than negative 100 dollars out of your mommy's wallet. Go fuck your mother, earn the money. Hippies have stinky vaginas.

  • @supressorgrid labels do this and labels do that. Pull your head out of your ass and just be an American. How about that?

  • I am an American. I just wish the green weasles would go find their own country to move to and leave mine alone. And you need to go get aa life and not just go down the list of folks on this site and insult them.

  • @wyankeif1337 NO you are nothing, just a dipshit that gets overtly excited over learning a new social term. Then you profess and let words of your shitty mind leave your mouth and type them for others to read, all the while thinking you accomplish something while in reality for anyone with an IQ over 120, you are just another retard. sorry.

  • You're such an open minded, nice person. And how do you know all this about me? I'm actually probably smarter than you. IQ 154.

    And you haven't brought up a single point: only insults. Isn't helping much, is it?

  • Also, what the fuck did I say to offend you so much in the first place? I don't even remember trying to start an argument with you: my first response was to some one else. So please: enlighten me.

  • @mcsas -- That tree GETS a liberal watering, from rain. A Liberal watering, which is probably laced with the video-mentioned bong water and bison semen, might kill the poor thing. But then, you guys are dead-set on killing the economy. Mother Nature just must be #2 on your list.