Permanent magnet generator with no relative motion between magnet and coil

[PrimeSonicYT]

It's science!

[Gigastorm123]

->> also that the amount of energy stored during phases [magnetic contact/non magnetic contact] is relative to the amount of copper used [size of coil/size of mass affected], thus when bigger coils, stronger magnets, and magnetic flux pulseing [in the case of a turning generator faster rotation] these factors create stronger energy when in large arrangments, now how can we create a pulseing magnetic feild, with little energy input to do it? people, BE clever...

[Gigastorm123]

also important to realise is that a magnet is a flow of polarised energy [i wont say electrons because im not sure] so when we [suddenly] introduce this flow to copper, the copper picks it up, quicky discharges into local feild [led] and then becomes aligned again, then we take the magnetic feild [suddenly] away again, the feild collapses, and the stored energy from when the magnets were present, discharges again, to become resonant with local feild. ->>

[Gigastorm123]

now we just need to develope a circuit and material setup that does this at a rapid pace, then we'll have free energy, i think its important to reslise that it's the power of magnetic flux in relation to the copper coil's exposure to it that creates energy [that and the feild either being created then breaking or vise versa. and repeting [more repetitions per section of time] this proscess merely creates more energy within that time space, so speeding up the prosess would make more energy

[supallama]

how did you hook up the led's and the wire on the breadboard?

[snathanmax]

If you want to get the Magnetic-Generator plans

Just search Google for "Top Magnetic Generator"

Click the First result (Skip the Advertisements) TopMagneticGenerator(dot)Com

I found it to be a great resource

[lej047]

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[zozococo2005]

are you educated??

[UNIVERSSOUL]

Sorry use a solid state relay instead the triac. NAMESTE!!!!

[UNIVERSSOUL]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­! U only need to wire a triac on the top of the coil and on the top of a metal plate on the magnet, and wire a flip flop circuit to the trigger of the triac and if u got guevos made a video and put it on youtube. I was doing the same thing but i was cutting on the coil circuit and was working but i was having problems to made a bigger coil on a bigger magnet and the way u did is AWESOME gift me a better idea for made them bigger. NAMESTE!!!!

[sirtom68]

I dont recall seeing "Free Energy" or hearing "Free Energy" anywhere in this video. Damn people, give it a break or go stick your finger in a lamp socket if you want to experiment ...or do something helpful and wind 9 gauge copper wire around ya head and stick it in a microwave oven. Criticize constructively or else not at all :)

[diegonikki]

woohoo i just figured out a simple yet most effective design the problem is you need about a ton of force to close the top of it

[stover78able]

Hey how big is the core

[diegonikki]

sorry about my insanely crazy coments what i really meant was i discovered a way to get unlimited energy out of a neodymium magnet and it exploits the rule that if you put energy in a cycle it gets weaker but i cannot tell you how i got around that soory :p

but my design ill tell you this they are enclosed in a vaccum so they rotate really fast

[Tenac3000]

So if you were to attach a car tire to a piston arm that made a magnet pass up and down throw a tube with a coil around it, while the tire was moving, you would have a rolling electricity source, correct?

[MrJakester7]

what are the inputs and outputs into the breadboard for the LED's?

[armadica10]

@diegonikki What?

[diegonikki]

@armadica10 my design harvest all or most of the magnetic energy u know what inspired me som 1 told me if your so smart build an iron man suit and i said what about the power source he said you figured it out then i showed him blueprints then he is saying now ok i will build it but i cant tell how it works because it will spin really really fast harvesting more and more energy because the magnets will be spinning thousands of rpm around a coil but i wont tell you more

[armadica10]

@diegonikki I don't doubt your design's ability i just cant understand you very well, Lol but im tring to build my own magnetic generator and i got to thinking, People say this is not possible because it violates the laws of thermodynamics however electromagnetism is one of the four forces so since they don't have a limit to their energy it could be possible for this to be perpetual however since im not a physicist i could be wrong. Good luck with your generator.

[U4EANetworksInc]

the "free" energy comes from the magnet, thanks to the tension provided between the north and south magentic poles and the flux field created between them. so no, its not free, because the Mother Nature may send you an invoice in the mail someday. Probably won't; <3 Nature :-) Permanent magnets are a great source of natural energy, and can possibly be aggregated

[salimkhan007]

Faraday law of induction

[iceleoparde17]

So we can use any type or magnet, am I right?

[Danielst16]

Why do people say "free" energy? No energy is "free", it is just converted from one form to another. I mean think about a generator like the one in this video, he didn't get a current till he moved the magnet or hinge that's because he needed the energy from his arm muscles to move the magnet and the energy you get out in the current is basically converted from energy in his arm. If you say free in terms of money then it depends on how much you spend on food really doesn't it?

[SurvivalGuide2012]

If you want to get the plans for building a Magnetic Generator

Just search Google for "top magnetic generator" and click the first result

I found it to be a great resource

[happytobeme12]

What do you call that thing with coil? The steel one?

[theREALmegaverse]

why was it important that you waste our time showing us this ???

[ankur261995]

when you bring the link between magnet and hinge hinge act as a magnet and when you make relative motion between hinge and coil electricity is produced. this is already attempted experiment attempted by faraday back in 1831.

[stephon77indtri]

good video !! my gentor is like you one but abt 10 X

[torau666]

so u pretty much made a giant slow ass manual hand operated transistor

[electricpete1]

@torau666 - This is a demonstration of Faraday's law. It just appears in a different format than typical demonstrations which involve relative motion between the conductor or the magnet.

[asalad083]

@electricpete1 Hi! how many turns required do i need to make on the coil to make the LED turn on. What is the possible least turns that i can make?

[a10fjet]

magnets, how the fuck do they work

[aba2185]

what classes in school do i need to take to understand this stuff?

[torau666]

@aba2185 electronics

[TheBrazillianAtheist]

no relative motion my ass!!

[chickenpoper]

why is youtube floating around with freen energy(im not saying this vid is about free energy which it is not ) but hen i look for magnet generators and such all i see is a internet page full of free energy garbage up to the rim

btw nice vid :D

[robviolin1]

good job - thanks for sharing.

[mhytbuster52]

it is a good idea.

[micoatomico]

yes there is a relative motion ...

[sultan009ful]

how many turns the coil consist of?

please tell me?

[electricpete1]

@sultan009ful - It was around 1500 turns of wire

[Toerme]

Is it important that the winded copper wire is insulated for the coil to work? If that's the case, why?

[electricpete1]

@Toerme The wire used is "magnet wire" which has enamel insulation on it. The insulation is required to ensure that current flows through all turns without short circuiting between turns which would reduce the effective number of turns.

[TheMattkilla12]

WHere did you get that magnetic wire, isnt magnetic wire, please give me some info, pleaseeeeee :) thank you

[electricpete1]

@TheMattkilla12 I got the magnet wire from Radio Shack

[luvthemgirls]

It seems that there is relative motion!.... the magnet has been tranfered to the hinge and the hinge moves in relative motion to the coil.... did I miss something??

[electricpete1]

@luvthemgirls The hinge is not a magnet. It is steel carrying flux.... similar to the core of a transformer or a motor.

[RavenPrecept]

@electricpete1 The hinge is a magnet, it just happens to require the permanent magnet to energize it. Electrons get pushed around whenever magnetic strength changes.

[5lkk]

Well of course there is a moving magnetic field. Video title fails big time, sorry.

[elzabig1]

one day i will lern this and be able to have a intelligent argument

[HIDDENTECH2]

cool magnet btw 

[palmisto2]

nice

[itsandbits1]

i think if the magnetic feild were able to be seen you would see it extend out from the magnet through the hinge and also into the core when you make and break the contact and the movement of that feild is what produces the power; the same as if u were holding the magnet and moving it.

[Pianoman0488]

This is a very interesting way of interpreting the concept that rate of change of flux through coil = - emf induced.

Cool video.

[11111111jws]

Always good to see basics. We need to remember these but I am glad he reminded me of the stupid thing I forgot about reversing the polarity of the magnet.

My poser is what if you feed it through other material than the steel hinge? What about aluminium, barillium tin, etc? Alsso monitor the voltage of the LEDs _/

[XdontUworryX]

Interesting, I wasn't aware of this property.

[rowannrose]

This a great demonstration, it reminds me of an IC gate. If the magnets were replaced with a power supply, and the hinge replaced with an IC gate you would have the same effect.

Thanks

[captainpecan]

The comments of the idiots never cease to amaze me. This was a great demonstration of general physics, and a great way to get people thinking out of the box. I do not recall anywhere him saying it was free energy, or that it was effortless for him to make and break the connection. People need to get a grip. This is a great video and very well explained, thanks. 5 Stars for sure.

[derman077]

Dude ! I wonder what a stack of neos would do. Well done. Thank you.

[captainpecan]

@derman077 Stack of neo's would work great. Although it would be kind of bear to break that connection. Really strong neo's will make it feel almost as if it is glued down every time you try to lift it. But still, a great little project.

[mrBr00k5]

Very interesting, it's like Ed Leedskalnin's motion holder. Good Demo!

[slavric]

In this case it's not a free energy! This phenomena is called induction. Changin magnetic flux thru the coil induces voltage. But the induction produces braking effect, in this case to man's hand. How can you test it yourself? Easy. Take a DC motor with brushes, which is very common. Try to spin it by your fingers. It spins quite freely. Now wire aome bulb or make short circuit on the contacts and try spinning it now. You will feel the difference in your fingers.

Have fun!

[rattytatt521]

He's just showing basic physics of induction - those who are ranting relax

[SOME13LSE]

i have a question, what kind of wire do you use, what kind of magnets? does the wire need to be insulated

[hofmannsapprentice]

if you believe this is free energy, you need to go back to highschool physics... the hinge is an extension of the magnet (duh!)

[imthefrogman]

this was an idea. and the lights did light.

dont be so hard on your self.

THINK! THINK! and DO SOME MORE THINKING.

[hofmannsapprentice]

you need not think about it too much its obvious, don't waste your time with physics demonstrations. look into real energy generation like tokamak reactors and plasma physics.

also consider, you're using energy to open and close the hinge, and if you got a machine to do this, it would also require energy to move the hinge, not only that, you're losing some to the click sound it makes and also to heat.

[Danster82]

I think the theory behind steorns free energy is that the magnet wil naturaly attarct towards the coil producing inductance and the energy, if you charge the coil with a current its no longer magnet so if you time the charging of the coils perfectly you should get continues motion.

[electricpete1]

There is no free energy here. Just a demonstration of known principles of physics.

[Grey9man]

@electricpete1 Have you taken this any further? Perhaps there is a way that you could incorporate another magnet and compression springs to keep the hinge in a continuous motion and the leds would at least flicker constantly. There are dozens of 'over unity' machine video's here on you tube now, but this one you are demonstrating is different from any I have seen so far. Thanks for the very informative video.

[mikefromspace]

@electricpete1 Alas, I think you are wrong, don't you see that if you had a metal arm that rolls over multiple coils broken by plastic areas to make it a continuous smooth roll- the led's would continue to light up by the contact? I'd imagine that the metal wheel connected to a distributing arm without grease in the bearings would maybe have some difficulty leaving some contacts, yet would be attracted as well if such a force were to come. See my Leedskalnin video. might give you ideas.

[firedude201234]

@electricpete1

no one said anything about this being free energy.........so whats your point?

but yes i do agree with what you said

[301001082]

@Danster82 the coil supplies current in one direction per instance, larger coil needed to produce the power has a slow response, in other words the coil decides when to light the leds, and it's a relatively long time after the air gap's toggled.. but another note the magnets potential will decrease with every use; they run out

this geeeza in the vid's a fool

[htomerif]

@301001082 he's not a fool, and youre a troll. none of the words you said had any meaning in the arrangement you put them in. @electricpete1 sorry the free energy nuts have hijacked your comment section. This does a good job showing that anything you do to change the total flux through a coil will generate electrical power.

[301001082]

@htomerif wrong! i'm a troll he's a fool, and you're a dumbass, the magnetic flux decreases, it's not permanent and a basic understanding of induction explains the negative current i don't think you know what is happening..?

the vid says "no relative motion between" changing the permeability of the magnetic circuit is identical to motion, therefore "with relative motion" hence fool

[vambreace]

@301001082 i think you must investigate about MAGNETIC INTERRUPTION SHIELDING!. the trick is not gain the full power generation due closing the magnetic field, this will cause magnetic repulsion by load and stop the machine. this method is for reduction of the lenz effect

[301001082]

@vambreace "MAGNETIC INTERRUPTION SHIELDING" explain, sound irrelevant! ...but there is no more to investigate after basic inductor behavior, as permeability varies

[vambreace]

@301001082 MAGNETIC INTERRUPTION SHIELDING, is only the interruption of magnetic flux by a iron or steel piece. EX: if you have a coil with a magnet in front of it you must cut the magnetic field for electric generation. you have to move or spin the magnet. right, but you leave the magnet on your position and make pass a metal piece through the magnet and coil, that will to cut the magnetic flow from the magnet to the coil and you will get electric generation on the coil, and no lenz effect

[RTRVII]

@Danster82 All you need here is the famous "Faraday's Law of Induction":

we use "S" for closed loop integral, (Phi)b for magnetic flux, d/dt for time derivative and E for electric field.

S E*dl = - d(Phi)b /(dt)

This law means that a change in magnetic flux will induce a voltage difference in the space around it. If there is conductor there somewhere it will have current flowing in it.

Note that the "minus sign" in the equation points out the direction of the current (Lenz's law).

[PrincessZorlon]

With all the corrections on your video aside... for those of us just starting on this journey it was fun to watch.

[quellenathanar]

The hinge becomes a temporary magnet as it's obviously Ferris. In effect your moving a magnet, and by extension changing the magnetic field effecting the coil. While your experiment certainly shows that you can move the hinge, and not the permanent magnet, it's false to say that the magnet is not moving. That hinge is very much a magnet in this case.

[WilliamTapley]

Forgot to add that diodes may be necessary...

A small 9V battery could power the 555 timer circuit with multiple MOSFETs, and be able to produce more than 500% unity compared to the power required to make it run. The bigger the coil and stronger the magnets, the sky is the limit!

[WilliamTapley]

What people fail to realize, is that the use of MOSFET transistors would be able to produce free energy with a 555 timer circuit. More MOSFETs = higher amperage. Bifilar or Trifilar or Quadfilar might be the way to go to get more amps too.

This is a great proof of concept. High speed switching is the solution! Try to incorporate the bedini circuit into this setup for ultimate results!!!

[kokopelli314]

Relative motion between the magnetic "field" and the coil

[electricpete1]

I agree. It is a demonstration of Faraday's law... just a different form than usual.

[manwar999]

it takes energy to move that hinge...

[Aerosteon]

Very interesting, but I would like to point out that what you are doing is magnetising the hinge, so this device is still powered by the motion of a magnet, its just not the bar magnet itself.

[DIYmagnetGENERATOR]

awesome, 5 stars!

I also like the experiments with the simplest magnetic generators, and i have similar videos if interested.

[chardnj]

awesome.very helpful..thank you so much.

[aznboi563]

where do you buy a permanent magnet

[LoneOarman]

Buy magnets at Radio Shack or better is ebay for the neodymium super magnets.

[ncbookz]

please try to get the lights to light with a smaller switch please like a thin piece of iron that maybe wind could cause it to disconnect or open

[ncbookz]

can you post the formula you used to derive this thought? thanks again

[electricpete1]

Faraday's law - Voltage is equal to number of turns times time rate of change of flux. Opening and closing the magnetic circuit creates changing flux.

[ncbookz]

thanks friend i am working on an invention for this will you please build me one of these, i need to show this to a friend. i do not need anything fancy. i just have very little time to build this myself. i know how much time it takes to wrap the coils if you can build one i will pay with paypal thanks

[localbroadcast]

well... the hinge just acts to extend the magnets field... so you are actually moving the magnet.

[voyceatlas]

CAN YOU MAGNETIZE AIR?

[TheUFOeffect]

static electricity... you can ionize air.

[stupidguyaabbcc]

does the number of turns on the coil matter? also the gauge?

[Apossesedsock]

im using #30 gauge to create mine for a school project...my teacher recomended it.

[TheUFOeffect]

more turns the better. high gauge the thinner. higher the better.

[sjh7132]

Where did you find steel washers? All I can find these days in zinc.

[grifflesnaffle]

Again, may I ask what is meant by electricpete1's

phrase "a core insulated parallel to the bolt "?

[electricpete1]

It may not have been the best term. An example of effective insulation would be a split in the washers which interrupts the potential loop for current flow around the washers (encirlcing the bolt)

[Kimble275]

Relative to what? In regards to relativity. The hinge does produce a relative function.

So you must reillistrate the perception here, because the hinge is relative to the magnetic force. And the flux is endeavour to the hinge. Wrong choice of words.

[electricpete1]

As the title says: "Permanent magnet generator with no relative motion BETWEEN MAGNET AND COIL"

I said what I meant.

[samking12]

how is the cooper wound

[13579zoo]

It's possible this is happening because the hinge is magnetized and is moving close to the coil. Maby as a a check of all this, maby you can move the other side of the hinge instead - the one one top of the magnet.

[XZQVenus2]

This is a great demonstration of the fundamentals behind Bearden's MEG. I wonder though, after watching this a few times, if it is the completion of the flux path that causes the power surge, or is it simply the mass of the magnetized hinge racing toward the coil at high speed the moment before it touches? I'd like to see the flux path redirected with a mechanism that uses much less energy. Bearden used secondary coils to reroute flux, but i still wonder about total power in/output. Any data?

[robotpredator8]

can u show how did u put the coil?

[lawnshark19]

Its the same as passing magnetic over the coil using steel is the same as the magnetic since it travels threw it

[tanksponge]

I love these kinds of videos, keep up the good work buddy!

[jcii2]

Thanks for the video. You did a good job of showing how a magnet generator works in a way that is easy to understand.

Thanks.

[taraff1]

I built a Magnetic Generator that powers all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:

magniwork-review.blogspot(DOT)­com

[burkmic]

very cool!

[tjgame2]

Thats kinda like a MEG , but with motion . Cool man , thanks for sharing.

[knowledgemonger]

You can do a little better if you use a bundle of iron rods. Iron wire works. If you don't mind a square core, sheet metal also works.

The trick in all these cases is to insulate the core material so that the iron can't look like a shorted turn to the coil. Any current that flows in the iron prevents some current in the copper coil.

[electricpete1]

Thanks. I agree that a core insulated parallel to the bolt would be better to prevent current circulating in the core. This was just an easier way to build it.

By the way, the demo is a lot better on the video before I uploaded it to youtube. Tthe LED flashes EVERY single time you open or close the magnetic circuit. Somehow the youtube video compression throws away the flash if it doesn't last long enough... so the result that you see looks like there is no flash half the time.

[knowledgemonger]

I figured that there was some "aliasing" going on between the LED flashes and the video frame rate. The sometimes blink sometimes not effect doesn't make sense

BTW: It doesn't matter how you make more and less flux go down the center of the coil so there are lots of other mechanical methods you could use. I have seen it done using the teeth of a very large gear. It was part of a machine that needed the gear for its own purposes. It powered a display of how fast the gear was going.