My question is..... What gives those people the right to tell people that their way of life isn't right. I don't care who they are or what "organization" they are with , nobody has the right to say that someone's lifestyle is not a legitimate way to live
Of course **good** Christians have to tell LIES to people in hopes of pushing their own will off onto others. They can't use logic or truth because neither of those traits can be found in the reasoning set forth by these types of **christians**.
Shit...that guy is gayer than an easter bonnet. He needs to stop pretending. Anyone can change their behavior but to think you can change your orientation is fallacious. Ask a bona fide heterosexual when they "chose" to become straight. They will tell you they didn't. A bona fide homosexual is no different. Sexual orientation is innate.
the story of Sodom is very important it shows us that if you live in a sinful city your will eventually will wax cold and you will begin to think that because they are nice people the sin they commit is ok,,,,GOD couldnt find 10 people who were righteous,,,one family out of all the city,,,,were they really any less sinful or had GOD changed their hearts and wiped their sins away?
The 1st Amendment has much less weight in the context of a public school, although it does have some. College is a different ball game.
I would have to see the text on the t-Shirt to decide if (IMHO) should be covered by the 1st Amendment and what sort of applicable rules and reguations apply.
Personally, I find the 'ex-gay' movement to be peddling satanic snake oil, but that is just my opinion.
I really wish that was the case but it is not. I have studied statistical data, literature, varies book, and quantitative/qualitative research written by scholars with up to date education who are widely respected in their professions. Unfortunately, I know that misinterpretation of "fact" happens all to often.
Here is a definition of "Hate" from Wiki: Hatred or hate is a word that describes intense feelings of dislike. It can be used in a wide variety of contexts, from hatred of inanimate objects to hatred of other people.
There is nothing I see in your video that describes this definition. In your report it only describes the difference of opion. I see no one showing an "intense dislike" for gay people.
why dont people just worry about they're own lives. and stop imposing and preching to others. its not your mission in life to make lgbt people feel shit
Another thing. I want to meet these people who think they can change some ones sexuality. I would love for them to try it on me. Seriously, they really need to go back to school. how fucking dumb can you be? We dont NOT "choose" who we are atracted too. Fucking retards, go read your damn bible some more and leave the rest of the world alone. Its OUR life, let us live it. We only get one life. YOU live YOUR life and i'll live MINE. FUCK OFF
Well put yourself in my shoes and see if you dont get angry at these people, or get tired of their stupidity, get annoyed with their constant bitching about "god" and his laws. What i said contained anger, but it also would make this world a better place. Its their belief not mine. Why do they feel the need to shove their beliefs down my throat, or rule my world by their standards?
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The day of silence is pro-gay propoganda that takes up teaching time in the classroom and offends half of the class. It should not be allowed in public schools.
Lies become truth is enough people believe it. For example, it is often believed that Homosexuality is a choice and can be reversed at will. I especially hate hearing about the subject from straight Christians, like they have personal experience and insight into the matter. All they have are talking points. I say that it's Christians that need to be saved from their own self imposed, restrictive, one-point-of-view lifestyles.
I want to share with Christians the truth of the bhagavad gita, the qu'ran, the teachings of Lord Shiva and the miracles of Zeus, but they don't want to listen.
Matthew 22:30 "For in the ressurection, they shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be as angels of God in heaven". Yeah! Nice! No marriage or sex in heaven!... So what the fuck is the point of defending it here, then?!
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45) So, I guess this means it's ok to own slaves?
"jesus" and "god" have NOTHING to do with ANY of this... peoples beliefs are peoples beliefs! so get over these little FIGHTS you guys are having... me personally i think jesus isn't real never was real and never will be BUT even if he was he didn't "create" us to be perfect. BUT perfectionism isn't a part of life. if you have a problem with gays then FUCK OFFFFF and get over it because people are guna be gay either way.
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In spite of the growing secular humanist trend to think "it's ok to be gay," it's not a righteous lifestyle. Most vocal Christians are not homophobic, but are trying to share Christ's love for homosexuals and trying to keep them from horrific judgment.
If it were not sad it would be laughable, anti-gay Christians push more people away from God's love than gay love could ever do. A growing list of former Exodus members including one of the founders Michael Bussee are coming forth about the pain and suffering this organization causes. The best way to keep people from the love of Jesus Christ is to tell people that Jesus Christ is sending them to hell. SHAME ON YOU! Get your Sodom story correct. It was not about gay sex. (Out of space.)
@curnon69 being gay is no more of a sin then lying, committing adultry, murder, idolatry, using GODs name in vein,,,its all the same according to GODS law...so why does this gay thing keep coming up,,,because for some reason everyone agrees that lying is wrong, murder is wrong, cursing is wrong idolatry noone cares about but if you say homosexuality is a sin wooooo its a HUGE deal....christianity isnt about making yourself perfect 4 GOD, its about asking GOD to come into yr life and change you
@candiceevans1WE ARE ALL SINNERS,,,A GAY MAN IS NO WORSE THEN ANYONE ELSE,,,What bothers some christians is that schools are teaching our kids that its ok to try homosexuality. That you need to try it to see if your gay or not,,,they promote homosexuality which to me is like promoting theft,,,,its wrong,,,I dont care what lifestyle another person chooses but dont tell my kids that they should try being homosexual,,,as a teacher its sick to me to promote such things to kids,
@candiceevans1 In regards to the whole schools teaching kids to try homosexuality thing:...That's pure moronic. You're just teaching the same age-old principle of ''Love thy neighbour....But not in my neighbourhood''
@curnon69 are you some kind of goofball,,,,what do you think it says in the bible? that everyone goes to heaven no matter what they do,,,just go have anal sex with other men all day long and youll go to heaven? is that what the Bible says,,,if you are Christian then you better stop watching joel osteen and read the gospel because Jesus did say few would find the narrow gate,,,you need to watch Paul Washer or Tim Conway, John Piper and hear the true gospel because yr lost
@candiceevans1 Nice the only response I received was from a Christian who decided it was best to cast stones. This is the same Christian who beared false witness by saying that schools are "teaching our kids that it is ok to try homosexuality." Please tell me which school district has in their curriculum that the students "try homosexuality." That would certainly be an interesting home work assignment.
@curnon69 If your definition for "goofball" is a person who has been educated in the classical languages, has been a member of a religious think tank with highly educated theologians and does not spit out what they heard their pastor/priest/minister says without understanding the context and orginal language the text was written in then yes I am a goofball.
@fashionhistorylover as requested I looked it up. watched the video clips. there is no gay agenda here except to teach to others that people are different. I accept that some people believe I am going to Hell but I don't attack them. I don't try to belittle them. Teaching children to respect each other is the right thing to do. It will not make a heterosexual become a homosexual. Gays are 5% of the population and despite the increased rights and acceptance in our society it is still 5%.
Who are you to say that we are not righteous in the sight of God? Did Christ speak against us? Has God spoken to you and told you that our lives and loves are not valid, and that we cannot control our baser instincts as well as you? Do you believe that we have made a choice to be hated and reviled?
I know that I cannot make you agree with me, but I ask you to respect my views, and to trust me as a brother, even if you don't understand.
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Sexual sins were rampant in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (This is the origin of the word sodomy.) Despite warnings, they refused to repent. God destroyed those cities and it was recorded as a warning to all future generations. (Genesis 18:20-21, Genesis 19:4-5, 2 Peter 2:6) Some additional scriptures on homosexuality are found in: * Leviticus 18:22 * Leviticus 20:13 * Romans 1:26-27
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God's design for natural sexual relationships is part of His plan. Homosexuality falsifies what God designed. Sin often means not only rejecting God but denying or rejecting how and why we are made. Though it may be considered acceptable by some today -- even in some churches -- it is not acceptable to God. And we need to take that seriously.
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God's Word says that homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, an abomination, fornication, vile affections, and a great sin against Him. He states any sexual act outside of marriage is adultery (hetro or homo sexual). Sex is to be between man and woman within marriage.
95% of people have sex before marriage (and that figure has not changed much over the past 50 years--it's been going on for al ong time). And that's only including intercourse, not all of the other things people do.
Get your head out of your butt--homosexuality is not only about sex, and just as many straight people (if not more) commit your so-called "sexual sins" as gay people.
God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin. Homosexuality is sin by His order; it is not decided by public opinion or deceived/false clergy. Changing societies do not dictate God's standards. Sin is defined by God for us in the Bible. It is the source for what God says is holy and righteous or sin and abomination. Hebrews 13:8 states that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever; he does not "go with the flow."
Wow such hypocritical words! "It is our responsibility to point the hurting person tempted by or even trapped in homosexual behavior to this healing love..." - 4:24...
I don't see no healing love, all is see is just pure and bitter hatred!
"Love in Action" commits child abuse and should be outlawed. All these efforts to change the sexual orientation of youth should be outlawed as they represent emotional abuse and a violation of young people's human rights. If we protect kids from sexual abuse with age of consent laws we certainly should protect them from "reparative therapy" which is arguably as damaging.
(continued) do u ever stop to think why we have so many wars? IT'S ALL HATE! and i find it sick and broken that we live in a community that would rather see men holding guns then guys holding hands. i mean seriously i have straight friends and they NEVER call me sick and broken for being gay, and i love them for their support, and im not trying to "correct" you people like you are trying to correct me and other LGBT youth, this is MY opinion! and im sure my friends share this feeling.
(continued)you would make anyone feel that way, soo what im gonna marry a woman i love, how is that any of your concern? and do u think ripping on a day like the day of silence is going to make gay people "Go away?"
noooooo there's sooo many and for a country that claimes they love individuality you sure love to call people sinners if they dont fit in your mold and will jump at any chance to call people like me sick, seriously GROW UP the world would be such a better place if u accepted gay ppl
Ok, i am a proud lesbian teenager in highschool, and the fact that you think sending gay teens to camps that turn them straight is a.ok in you book, to me it is messed! and yea i know this is your opinion and everyone has one but seriously? Dude calling me broken and sick is not going to make me wake up tomorrow and start liking guys. and do you also relaize that what you are doing to us gay people is basically what people did to black people during times of segregation?! that is terrible that..
I'm not going to say your going to go to hell for thinking what you do, because God is forgiving, but with every action you do to hurt a gay person, you DO realize your hurting an actual person, a soul made by God. We all have a bit of God in us, and when you hurt someone you are hurting God. It all makes sense. Read the Bible.
(continued)and God can't find it in HIMself to be kind to gay people? i find that hard to believe. God loves everyone, no matter what color, gender or sexuality they are. "Love your neighbor like yourself" Unless you feel that much hate towards yourself that you show toward Gay people, i believe your breaking a rule from God.
im a straight roman catholic, and omg guess what. my best friends gay, i love her to pieces. i participated in the day of silence, and this video? IT SICKENS ME
you do realize this is just like black and color discrimination? everyone agrees that was wrong, and how exactly is this different? dont tell me gay people are going to hell. God is supposed to be a kind person, so where do you get the idea of killing actual PEOPLE? not from God. I mean, i can find it in myself to be kind to gay people
I personally could care less about what a bunch of superstitious people believe about homosexuality. The fact is not all Christians agree with the interpretation of some fundamentalists. Fortunately we live in a secular society and the religious beliefs of some people do not overcome those of rest of us. Reparative therapy is a joke and that is an established fact.
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Well, I believe that homosexualism is sin caused by bonds, chains and demons of Satan. There is no such thing as "repairing homosexual behaviour through therapy" the only way one can truly change is if they give their life to Christ, ask for forgiveness, and let His blood purge them of all sin and rebellion. We cannot use worldly ways like therapy to change human behaviour of sin. Only God can do that.
To pinoy7tfc- Leviticus 19 v20-22 says it's ok for a man to have sex with a married slave as long as he sacrifices a ram to the Lord. Lev.11v9-12 says eating clams & crabs is an abomination.New Testament 1 Timothy 6 v1-2 tells us slaves should serve and honor their masters,esp if the masters are believers.You shall not eat meat with blood in it,& whoever works on the Sabbath shall be put to death....Ah,but look,it says homosexuality is an abomination. You guys like that one,so you run with it.
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is this video true? No. It hides sooo much and reveals very little (some which is false). Please, do your own research and read the bible. Oh and KaseyAriel, you really need to read the Bible. Sin is in your genetics, but do you let those things stop you? No. You CHOOSE to stop yourself from doing those things. And there is A LOT of stuff about this issue in the bible. Actually read, THEN tell me if you need verses to look at. Please be sure your words are TRUTH before you say false things.
The bible doesn't say sin is in our genetics moron, the Catholic church does. If a man is born with a woman's sexuality, it is a sin for that person not to be true to theirself. A Gay man is simply a woman born with the wrong plumbing. Hatred is sin, have a nice time in hell because obviously you don't want to repent for your own sin.
-sigh- Okay, so now the Catholic Church is TOTALLY OKAY with trannies, but not gays?
Bullshit.
A gay man is a man who's attracted to men. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm a girl. I identify as a girl. I have skirts and the like. And I'm attracted to other girls.
You obviously contradict yourself. Saying someone should go to Hell is very, very hateful, and discriminating against gays more so. All you're doing is perpetuating hatred. You must be a very guilty person. Good luck.
loveequalslove what if i fuck your pussy till its inside comes out would you still be gay? the anti gays are merciless towards you gays.killing you is like killing a devil. and by the way none gays are more, so beware!!
Being merciless is not a virtue. Killing is not a virtue. Rape is not a virtue. Hate is not a virtue. Try reading the New Testament, because Jesus condemns such things. Also, it's a fascinating read and an international bestseller. Can't go wrong.
Rape would not make me straight, no. It's sad that you would threaten that on anyone. It's sad that you think that killing anyone is a good thing. I have never, ever done anything to you. All I want is contentment.
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(CONTINUED) I have gay friends, and they are wonderful, but i don't see that their sexual orientation is right. Also,Michelle from the video was a FORMER lesbian who did actually choose God. No one should ever be forced to change but CHOOSE through their will. We want to only help those through love and compassion of Jesus Christ.I believe that being homosexual is not a disease or such, but just a sin that we are born with,as with all the other sins,and we need to take that sin out of our lives.
To igotjesusinme: Trust me,you don't have gay friends, you have gay acquaintances. They tolerate you, like you tolerate them (Unless you've got them on one of your religious guilt trips. Then your supposed religion has them not even tolerating themselves. How sad!)
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(i am a Christian teen) Harper does not show he hates gays and bisexuals because he has not said or showed that in any way, but he is just pointing out, through verses in the Bible, about what is right through the eyes of God. This video clearly is hiding many things about what we Christians believe in. We do not hate gays, bisexuals, etc. We love them but we oppose what they do because God tells EVERYONE it is wrong.
Tell me this homophobes, I have quite a few homosexual friends, I grew up raised by a female electrical engineer, I played male oriented sports my whole life, and everything in my enviroment says I should be homosexual. But guess what? I'm not. I'm straighter than most of you.
It's in your genetics. Live with it. Oh, also, there's nothing in the Bible against it, Sodom and Gomorrah was about RAPE, morons.
Jesus taught love. Christians who hate are not Christians at all.
I agree with the first statement, but the second sentence doesn't make sence. God has no gender, how does your sexuality (or lack thereof) make you more like him?
@KaseyAriel Uh what your point mentioning who raised you, playing male sports has anything to do with this amd what do you mean by "Everything in your enviorment says you should be homosexual?"
It's a choice why would a person make a choice to be harassed by people day after day.
I'm a stright christen, and I don't not like at all the fact that you say hate is a christen view. I'm an Episcopalian, and we belive in the equal of rights of all human beings, god loves EVERYONE.
I'm doing the day of silence because I belive that god created and loves everyone.
It's very sad that you can't see that the message of the Bible is love.
In other words, people engage in homosexuality independent of the erotic drives to do so, as if these desires come from some other source that is outside of what is biologically preordained. What you are doing is nothing more than trying to give bigotry some scientific weight, which it doesn't have. Your presentation is entirely specious, something that sounds logical, but isn't. Specious: the use of intelligence in avoiding the truth. Special science? Reparative therapy is special science!
For all gays who want to know the truth about homosexual behavior and what the experts say search for the report released May 9, 2001 at the annual American Psychiatric Association convention, psychiatrist Dr. Robert Spitzer, Chief of Biometrics Research and Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia University in New York City. Spitzer is one of the first docs to have homosexuality accepted as normal behavior. If you don't think gays are basically heterosexual and can change back argue with him.
You can go to Wayne Besen's channel and watch a video by Spitzer himself and how he admits that his research is distorted. What you are saying is that the millions of gay people around the world are lying and that those "experts" who say differently know better. Some professionals think we are all basically bisexual, but I don't by that either.
Homosexuality is a positive attraction and has nothing to do with a lack or fear of something else. I love how you guys come up with these psuedoscientific and psuedointellectual excuses for not accepting homosexuality as a healthy and natural variant. There is not a single documented, satisfactory case of a homosexual becoming a heterosexual, except those offered by "Christian" ministries, and these ministries will not allow peer review evaluations.
BeatBuddy, when you say gayness is a "combination of genetics.." what scientific studies can you offer us to support your claim? In fact, heterosexuality, and all anatomy, biology, science, etc., does need to be explained and can be easily. Science is not there to use when you want it; it was established to explain all physical truths in the universe. The anatomy and physiology of male and female humans - hormones, chromosomes, and body parts - clearly explains heterosexuality.
What you are saying, in effect, is that if people are not exclusively heterosexual, that there is something wrong with them. There are a variety of studies than can be cited, such as the Swedish discovery that pheromones found in gay men is roughly equivalent to those of heterosexual women. The studies are too numerous to name here. Further, the physiology and anatomy is right, for homosexuals. What is natural is not uniformity of sexuality, as you imply. It is diversity that is natural.
It's a choice why would a person make a choice to be harassed by people day after day.
I'm a stright christen, and I don't not like at all the fact that you say hate is a christen view. I'm an Episcopalian, and we belive in the equal of rights of all human beings, god loves EVERYONE.
I'm doing the day of silence because I belive that god created and loves everyone.
It's very sad that you can't see that the message of the Bible is love.
Homosexuality is not choice anymore than heterosexuality. Those who believe otherwise are apparently bisexual which also is not a choice but allows those so inclined to enjoy relationships with both sexes, hence their mistaken belief that everyone has this "choice".
I'm exclusively gay, and how that fact affects any of my bi or straight neighbors is beyond me. Keep your god out of my bedroom and I'll keep mine out of yours.
The ex-gays are correct, and good for them. I don't care what you do, but they have helped many people from this lifestyle.The gays are all for encouraging young people to try gay relationships to see which way feels right for them. But just try suggesting that people try the normal lifestyle and you will be vilified.The ex gays prefer normal lives, so why criticize them? Why are the gays so afraid of this? Just do what you want and stop crying about what others want to do. Hypocrites.
Okay, there is no "trying" a straight relationship here. If you're gay, you're gay. That's all there is to it. And stop referring to heterosexuality as a "normal" life. A gay person can have every bit of a normal life that a straight person can. The only thing that stands in our way is the big block of STUPID that is you people that tell us we can't.
Learn about your own religion. Activist Darrell Yates Rist, a co-founder of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation believes it is certainly possible for children to be "lured by queer ideas" into the homosexual lifestyle.He said that parents know this and are worried by it, because "they too understand that sexually free ideas are infectious and that, once introduced to the suggestion of same-sex love, their kids might just try it and like it."
Please be specific on what these "queer ideas" are. Common sense dictates that when you are hated and stigmatized for being what you can't help, then you will take a deeper look at people and the society in which you live, and form impressions. The cruelties that gays have been historically subjected to have been rarely matched, and these cruelties are in sharp contradiction to the noble values that ethics have taught through the ages.
The "ex-gays" are NOT correct. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. It's not the love of Christ, but the hatred of self that provides incentive to want to change. You cannot encourage anyone to be gay; you can only encourage people to accept their homosexuality if they happen to be gay. Living outside of your sexuality while pretending to have another is not leading a "normal" life. Gays ARE NOT afraid of "ex-gays"; it's the "ex-gay" movement that tries to distort the truths about gay people.
I have a lot of respect for Broadway show tunes!! I'm really tired of them being sung in locker rooms, or in kick line fashion as one is going down the stairs!!
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You guys are brainwashed. No amount of research or evidence will change your mind. You're hateful and disgusting. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Your brain's are scrambled. You can't even critically think anymore.
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It doesn't matter if homosexual traits are inborn...the fact is, engaging in homosexual activity is 100% a choice. Americans need to hear the truth about the dangers of this lifestyle. They also should know that hate crimes against religious people are about as high as against gays, and besides that, racial hate crimes are 3 x as high! Gays want us all to believe they are persecuted so that they can get their deviant ideas into law...and silence their critics.
Hate crimes against anyone are wrong; what point are you trying to make by saying that other types of hate crimes also exist? Why do you think that the numbers of religious hate crimes or racial hate crimes means that queer people don't face persecution?
my problem with "normalcy" is this: people who look normal are the sex offenders, rapists, and peds.. Most of them are seemingly normal in appearance..
I'm sorry if your changes did not stick. Mine did, and did not require "reparative therapy," but reading God's word for myself, and seeking to please God. It wasn't as hard as you might think it would be, but it was certainly worth the peace of mind.
What is it about homosexuality that is so displeasing to God . I mean the commandments make sense God doesnt just make up rules cause he wants to cause he's bored so what do you think is so damaging about homosexuality that God says its wrong in your mind ?
To the christians who say homosexuality is wrong look at jonathan and david. And it came to pass, when he [David] had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul." (1 Sam. 18:1).That same day,"Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul"(1 Sam. 18:3). Jonathan removes and offers David the rich garments he is wearing, and shares with him his worldly possessions...
Eh, there are some cultural things that lead me to believe it is like in those times you did not move out until you got married but jonathan and david lived together. the fact that when jonathan and david formed this bond his father said he was "confused and perverse" ive heard those things said about gay children by their parents but ive never herd anyone called a pervert or confused for wanting someone to be their friend.
When I read it I hear the mother being called perverse. Be they homosexual or not, we won't really know, but one thing is for sure: the Bible does not condemn homosexuality as anything sinful or evil.
Most people aren't "afraid" of homosexuality. 'Homophobia' is a misnomer. Thinking its wrong is not the same thing. Gays SHOULD be ashamed just as if thieves or wife-beaters should be ashamed. Wrong is wrong. Desensitizing Americans isn't going to change it.
Youre right about it being a misnomer . Its not homophobia its heterosexism . You think you are superior to gay people and even God doesnt accept them. Do you knwo how damaging it is to say to a young person even God doesnt love who you are ?
Heterosexism? Are you kidding? You're trying to normalize an aberrant behavior by claiming some kind of equal right of identity with being (normal) heterosexual. That's like saying I'm a, "truth-tellerist." The mere opposition attempts to add credence to the deviance, as if a liar has rights and shouldn't be disparaged. Homosexuality is the aberrant behavior. Humans weren't designed to be homosexual. Pretty simple. I never mentioned God, btw and being normal is superior to any deviance.
"normality" isnt superior to any devience. It is normal in america to be a white person because you are of the majority does taht make you superior ? Being a genious is not normal does that make them inferior to the average person ? I still havent heard any reason as to WHY homosexuality is so bad and damaging as you claim. If you can provide me one reason why homosexuality is bad that has nothing to do with stereotypes and social conditions ill stop supporting my gay friends.
You don't choose to be black or white, Krissy. Use a little logic. Being a genius is a factor of education - also genetics. Homosexuals don't beget other homosexuals. It doesn't run in the family. Born homo is a tired, baseless argument. Desensitization of our society from the persistent injection of this immoral agenda has damaged it immensely. Respect, personal responsibility, chivalry, empathy are all archaic notions now. Watch any TV lately? It's anything goes!
not every genetic is passed on directly to children it can be a dormant gene. Also it could be caused by conditions in the womb. As I said previously ( see comment below) lets suppose it is a choice what is wrong with it ? You keep talking about all of this immorality but you never express how it is harmful to people. You are right about one thing though empathy is an archaic notion. The people in this video have a problem with students tht express empathy for victims of bashing thats ok to you?
I see. You're a geneticist. I didn't realize you had a research project going studying the hereditary of a dormant homosexual gene. Just because genes can be dormant doesn't mean there exists a dormant 'homosexual' gene. You're reaching.
Let me answer your question about harmful affect by asking a questions. Why is bestiality wrong? It doesn't hurt anyone.
I've explained ad nauseum that violence is not an appropriate response. Should I use smaller words?
Your argument is terrible regardless of how big, or small, your words are. Why are you comparing homosexuality to bestiality? Consensual sexual acts, be they gay or straight, are exactly that, *consensual*. A sexual act without consent is rape; animals cannot give consent.
There is no comparison between homosexual sex and bestiality.
So, as long as the 13 year old girl says yes to the 35 year old man, its cool. Right? OR maybe the farmers sheep gives consent with silence... My ANALOGY was rebuttal to Krissy's absurd argument that homosexual behavior isn't harmful to society. Immorality in all forms harm society. Obviously my big words soared over your young melon.
Underage children are not legally capable of giving consent. "Consent with silence?" No.
Your response to claim that homosexuality is inherently a harmless nature, and a victimless action, is absurd. If you want to convince people that homosexuality is harmful, you'll have to do better than making bogus and tired comparisons to other sexual acts that have zero relevant resemblance.
I'm not comparing homosexuality with other aberrant except to say their aberrant. You continue to miss my points and my stipulations. Immorality is harmful to society. That's the thesis, stop trying to change the argument and redefining my argument. Reading comprehension wasn't a high score for you, I gather.
I'm not turning your argument in to anything other than what you've made it. You're asserting that homosexuality is immoral without actually supporting that claim. When someone claims that a harmless and victimless act, like homosexuality, cannot be immoral, you try to use analogies like bestiality and pedophilia, which are in fact NOT harmless, not consensual, and not victimless.
If there's anything I'm missing it's the reasoning behind your points, and that's because you haven't given any.
Homosexuality isn't harmful to society. It's harmful to your stupid ass and others like you but that's it. Gays live in society, gays work, gays raise children and society is still fine. And where the hell did child molestation come from? Quit being an idiot. You're homophobic. Admit and fix it.
"Society is still fine" That's your opinion. Your lack of respect is evidence to the contrary, kid. To call me a homophobe is to imply I fear homosexuals. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm repulsed by them like I'm repulsed by smarmy car salesman. Car salesmen don't scare me, yet I still avoid them. There's nothing to fix.
By the by, twin studies, birth order studies, research on the limbic systems of homosexuals and heterosexuals, all support the ever-more-supported theory that homosexuality is primarily biological in nature.
Repeat what you want to be the case all you like, post your opinion of how you think homosexuality works on forums everywhere, the fact remains that a person's sexual orientation, not their actions, aren't chosen, and any gay person can confirm that for you.
I don't dispute that homosexuality is biological. You can make the same argument about heterosexual behavior, politeness or altruism. All biological behavioral choices. The difference being, homosexuality is not only aberrant behavior but biologically superfluous and vain.
You're contradicting yourself, and you seem to be confusing the concepts of attraction and behavior. Homosexuality, as an attraction, like heterosexuality, is not a choice. No one chooses their sexual attractions, they experience them naturally.
Nothing natural about homosexuality. I haven't contradicted myself, I've only contradicted your thinking. "The concepts" are YOUR concepts. Attraction is "behavior" and behavior is a choice. Any behavior is a choice. Using adjectives like "natural" isn't going to change that.
Homosexuality seems to occur steadily, and naturally, with the same odds, regardless of time or place, and not as the consequence of some man-made device or tampering. In that sense, it is very natural.
Look up the word "behavior." If I choose to kiss another guy, *that* is a choice. My being sexually attracted to the other guy in the first place, not to mention my complete lack of attraction towards women, is so obviously *not* a choice.
Attraction isn't a behavior. You're ignorant as hell. And you don't choose who you're attracted, too. It's a combination of genetics and environment. Educate yourself, please.
I most certainly choose who I'm attracted to. To deny this behavior is fatalistic and irresponsible. Being married has squelched this behavior. I choose to be monogamous like I choose to be heterosexual.
Everyone says that homosexuality is a combination of genetics and environment. This is one of those subconscious manifestations of prejudice. It's predicated on the idea that homosexuality needs to be explained while heterosexuality does not. Heterosexuality is ALSO a combination of genetics and environment.
Checking science would help for a change. It is a fact that anything pertaining to a minority is not "normal" - not pertaining to the "norm", though this does not mean it is unnatural or even wrong.
"Humans weren't designed to be homosexual" "being normal is superior". There was a time it was norm to believe the planet was flat - didn't make it right though.
Indeed...but you're comparing apples and oranges. Choosing to be homosexual (aberrant behavior) and believing the world is flat (ignorance), aren't the same thing and hardly analogous. Simple biology shows that homosexuality is aberrant. Science isn't going to change that. It's a behavioral choice, not a physiological difference.
Actually science proves that homosexuality is natural and NOT a choice. But if you're speaking about "science" as in the type of "creation 'science'", then I can understand where you got this view from XD
Statistical twin studies, research on the difference between limbic systems in heterosexuals and homosexuals, differences in pheromone response, and most devastating, the fraternal birth order study, all contribute to a mountain of still-growing evidence supporting the theory that homosexuality is, for the vast majority of gay people, natural and inborn.
The theory that homosexuality is learned after birth has very little evidence supporting it.
My question is..... What gives those people the right to tell people that their way of life isn't right. I don't care who they are or what "organization" they are with , nobody has the right to say that someone's lifestyle is not a legitimate way to live
tysheltry 1 month ago
Of course **good** Christians have to tell LIES to people in hopes of pushing their own will off onto others. They can't use logic or truth because neither of those traits can be found in the reasoning set forth by these types of **christians**.
dodgyhingst 9 months ago
I find that most anti-gay bigots are in fact heavily in the closet themselves...I speak from experience.
inquiry10 1 year ago 2
"Truthiness!"
Colbert FTW!
^_^
lonelysith66 1 year ago
Shit...that guy is gayer than an easter bonnet. He needs to stop pretending. Anyone can change their behavior but to think you can change your orientation is fallacious. Ask a bona fide heterosexual when they "chose" to become straight. They will tell you they didn't. A bona fide homosexual is no different. Sexual orientation is innate.
ticket88 1 year ago
the story of Sodom is very important it shows us that if you live in a sinful city your will eventually will wax cold and you will begin to think that because they are nice people the sin they commit is ok,,,,GOD couldnt find 10 people who were righteous,,,one family out of all the city,,,,were they really any less sinful or had GOD changed their hearts and wiped their sins away?
candiceevans1 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 The word somodomite is both anul and oral sex,,so straights are sodomites as well.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
Terrible. People for the day of truth should be the ones ashamed.
HenhousetheRed 1 year ago
The bible lists more hetro sins than gay sins so the Christians should be aiming for a less sinful gay life.
frank6th 1 year ago
Day of Silence > Day of ''Truth''
LOL xD
invisiblesociety 2 years ago 6
The 1st Amendment has much less weight in the context of a public school, although it does have some. College is a different ball game.
I would have to see the text on the t-Shirt to decide if (IMHO) should be covered by the 1st Amendment and what sort of applicable rules and reguations apply.
Personally, I find the 'ex-gay' movement to be peddling satanic snake oil, but that is just my opinion.
Browned79 2 years ago
Yeah...the ex-gay movement is nothing but lies.....
invisiblesociety 2 years ago
Truth is only what people can make u believe. Fact, however, is a differnt story.
OctoberDream1 2 years ago 3
I really wish that was the case but it is not. I have studied statistical data, literature, varies book, and quantitative/qualitative research written by scholars with up to date education who are widely respected in their professions. Unfortunately, I know that misinterpretation of "fact" happens all to often.
msscott73 2 years ago
the right to free speech was always differentiated from hate speech. telling someone that they should be ashamed of their way of life IS hate speech.
perpetualmarble 2 years ago
Here is a definition of "Hate" from Wiki: Hatred or hate is a word that describes intense feelings of dislike. It can be used in a wide variety of contexts, from hatred of inanimate objects to hatred of other people.
There is nothing I see in your video that describes this definition. In your report it only describes the difference of opion. I see no one showing an "intense dislike" for gay people.
cruisecar07 2 years ago
why dont people just worry about they're own lives. and stop imposing and preching to others. its not your mission in life to make lgbt people feel shit
delstaaa 2 years ago 2
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Abashi76 2 years ago
Another thing. I want to meet these people who think they can change some ones sexuality. I would love for them to try it on me. Seriously, they really need to go back to school. how fucking dumb can you be? We dont NOT "choose" who we are atracted too. Fucking retards, go read your damn bible some more and leave the rest of the world alone. Its OUR life, let us live it. We only get one life. YOU live YOUR life and i'll live MINE. FUCK OFF
bobby472 2 years ago 3
It seems your the one who hates by the tone of your comment.
cruisecar07 2 years ago
Well put yourself in my shoes and see if you dont get angry at these people, or get tired of their stupidity, get annoyed with their constant bitching about "god" and his laws. What i said contained anger, but it also would make this world a better place. Its their belief not mine. Why do they feel the need to shove their beliefs down my throat, or rule my world by their standards?
bobby472 2 years ago
The day of truth. HAHAHAHAHA what a fucking joke. first of all prove the truth of your god before spreading these lies. FUCK GOD.
bobby472 2 years ago
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The day of silence is pro-gay propoganda that takes up teaching time in the classroom and offends half of the class. It should not be allowed in public schools.
ace8842 2 years ago
Maybe if there was no hate in the first place, there wouldn't need to be a day of silence. The haters have no one to blame but themselves.
KoboFox 2 years ago
That T-shirt is as acceptable as wearing a shirt with a swastika.
scotplaya 2 years ago
Lies? What lies?
clarkbell 2 years ago
the day of truth can taste my blade
nirvanak1234 2 years ago
Well that's not a hateful comment.
cruisecar07 2 years ago
nvr said i wasnt a hateful person
nirvanak1234 2 years ago
Lies become truth is enough people believe it. For example, it is often believed that Homosexuality is a choice and can be reversed at will. I especially hate hearing about the subject from straight Christians, like they have personal experience and insight into the matter. All they have are talking points. I say that it's Christians that need to be saved from their own self imposed, restrictive, one-point-of-view lifestyles.
acronus 3 years ago 3
Why don't the Day of Truth people use the original tshirt in their promotions.
jdbadboy 3 years ago
I want to share with Christians the truth of the bhagavad gita, the qu'ran, the teachings of Lord Shiva and the miracles of Zeus, but they don't want to listen.
wizardbrandon 3 years ago
hahaha..sorry that colbert clip was AWSOME...
direngreyisamazingwo 3 years ago
ahahahahaha..im sorry but christians give a me a really creepy feeling...theyre so creepy...i mean..damn there creepy
direngreyisamazingwo 3 years ago
Matthew 22:30 "For in the ressurection, they shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be as angels of God in heaven". Yeah! Nice! No marriage or sex in heaven!... So what the fuck is the point of defending it here, then?!
JonathanClement140 3 years ago
this kid is a dick.
it just makes me sick when people don't respect the day of silence. i am a huge activist for the day of silence.
MyLifeIsBrilliant 3 years ago 3
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45) So, I guess this means it's ok to own slaves?
queercat 3 years ago
Scott Davis is a Babe!
queercat 3 years ago
guess what...
"jesus" and "god" have NOTHING to do with ANY of this... peoples beliefs are peoples beliefs! so get over these little FIGHTS you guys are having... me personally i think jesus isn't real never was real and never will be BUT even if he was he didn't "create" us to be perfect. BUT perfectionism isn't a part of life. if you have a problem with gays then FUCK OFFFFF and get over it because people are guna be gay either way.
I SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS!
iloveyoubabyboobaby 3 years ago 3
The narrator sounds like the guy who did that one video about trying and failing gay-conversion.
PrettyPinkDepression 3 years ago
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In spite of the growing secular humanist trend to think "it's ok to be gay," it's not a righteous lifestyle. Most vocal Christians are not homophobic, but are trying to share Christ's love for homosexuals and trying to keep them from horrific judgment.
bigtrees0 3 years ago
Sorry but "horrific judgement" is a lie.
elfred1980 3 years ago
If it were not sad it would be laughable, anti-gay Christians push more people away from God's love than gay love could ever do. A growing list of former Exodus members including one of the founders Michael Bussee are coming forth about the pain and suffering this organization causes. The best way to keep people from the love of Jesus Christ is to tell people that Jesus Christ is sending them to hell. SHAME ON YOU! Get your Sodom story correct. It was not about gay sex. (Out of space.)
curnon69 3 years ago 7
@curnon69 being gay is no more of a sin then lying, committing adultry, murder, idolatry, using GODs name in vein,,,its all the same according to GODS law...so why does this gay thing keep coming up,,,because for some reason everyone agrees that lying is wrong, murder is wrong, cursing is wrong idolatry noone cares about but if you say homosexuality is a sin wooooo its a HUGE deal....christianity isnt about making yourself perfect 4 GOD, its about asking GOD to come into yr life and change you
candiceevans1 1 year ago
@candiceevans1WE ARE ALL SINNERS,,,A GAY MAN IS NO WORSE THEN ANYONE ELSE,,,What bothers some christians is that schools are teaching our kids that its ok to try homosexuality. That you need to try it to see if your gay or not,,,they promote homosexuality which to me is like promoting theft,,,,its wrong,,,I dont care what lifestyle another person chooses but dont tell my kids that they should try being homosexual,,,as a teacher its sick to me to promote such things to kids,
candiceevans1 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 straights are sodomites too my deat,,if you perform oral sex you are a sodomite.,,dont tell me you dont suck a dick once in a while.
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 In regards to the whole schools teaching kids to try homosexuality thing:...That's pure moronic. You're just teaching the same age-old principle of ''Love thy neighbour....But not in my neighbourhood''
95ConorOd 10 months ago
@curnon69 are you some kind of goofball,,,,what do you think it says in the bible? that everyone goes to heaven no matter what they do,,,just go have anal sex with other men all day long and youll go to heaven? is that what the Bible says,,,if you are Christian then you better stop watching joel osteen and read the gospel because Jesus did say few would find the narrow gate,,,you need to watch Paul Washer or Tim Conway, John Piper and hear the true gospel because yr lost
candiceevans1 1 year ago
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curnon69 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 Nice the only response I received was from a Christian who decided it was best to cast stones. This is the same Christian who beared false witness by saying that schools are "teaching our kids that it is ok to try homosexuality." Please tell me which school district has in their curriculum that the students "try homosexuality." That would certainly be an interesting home work assignment.
curnon69 1 year ago
@curnon69 If your definition for "goofball" is a person who has been educated in the classical languages, has been a member of a religious think tank with highly educated theologians and does not spit out what they heard their pastor/priest/minister says without understanding the context and orginal language the text was written in then yes I am a goofball.
curnon69 1 year ago
@curnon69 Look up homosexual indoctrination.
fashionhistorylover 1 year ago
@fashionhistorylover as requested I looked it up. watched the video clips. there is no gay agenda here except to teach to others that people are different. I accept that some people believe I am going to Hell but I don't attack them. I don't try to belittle them. Teaching children to respect each other is the right thing to do. It will not make a heterosexual become a homosexual. Gays are 5% of the population and despite the increased rights and acceptance in our society it is still 5%.
curnon69 1 year ago
@candiceevans1 straits are sodomites as well my dear
Clemburke1111 1 year ago
Who are you to say that we are not righteous in the sight of God? Did Christ speak against us? Has God spoken to you and told you that our lives and loves are not valid, and that we cannot control our baser instincts as well as you? Do you believe that we have made a choice to be hated and reviled?
I know that I cannot make you agree with me, but I ask you to respect my views, and to trust me as a brother, even if you don't understand.
Love in Christ,
Rob
zabriel13 3 years ago 4
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Sexual sins were rampant in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (This is the origin of the word sodomy.) Despite warnings, they refused to repent. God destroyed those cities and it was recorded as a warning to all future generations. (Genesis 18:20-21, Genesis 19:4-5, 2 Peter 2:6) Some additional scriptures on homosexuality are found in: * Leviticus 18:22 * Leviticus 20:13 * Romans 1:26-27
bigtrees0 3 years ago
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God's design for natural sexual relationships is part of His plan. Homosexuality falsifies what God designed. Sin often means not only rejecting God but denying or rejecting how and why we are made. Though it may be considered acceptable by some today -- even in some churches -- it is not acceptable to God. And we need to take that seriously.
bigtrees0 3 years ago
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God's Word says that homosexuality is unnatural, a perversion, an abomination, fornication, vile affections, and a great sin against Him. He states any sexual act outside of marriage is adultery (hetro or homo sexual). Sex is to be between man and woman within marriage.
bigtrees0 3 years ago
95% of people have sex before marriage (and that figure has not changed much over the past 50 years--it's been going on for al ong time). And that's only including intercourse, not all of the other things people do.
Get your head out of your butt--homosexuality is not only about sex, and just as many straight people (if not more) commit your so-called "sexual sins" as gay people.
swtnspycy 3 years ago 2
God is the ultimate and sovereign judge for sin. Homosexuality is sin by His order; it is not decided by public opinion or deceived/false clergy. Changing societies do not dictate God's standards. Sin is defined by God for us in the Bible. It is the source for what God says is holy and righteous or sin and abomination. Hebrews 13:8 states that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever; he does not "go with the flow."
bigtrees0 3 years ago
The Day of Silence is the most effective action in the country at this time that promotes civil rights, equality, and tolerance or acceptance.
jerrydoubleu 3 years ago
Wow such hypocritical words! "It is our responsibility to point the hurting person tempted by or even trapped in homosexual behavior to this healing love..." - 4:24...
I don't see no healing love, all is see is just pure and bitter hatred!
ColdSelenite 3 years ago 2
L'amour c'est l'amour!
Love is love!
Its not religon...its politicians wanting people to hate other people.....
GAYS ARE AWSOME! and im not even gay
Suck on that jesus bastard mongers
moosen27 3 years ago 3
This day of truth seems like sexual harassment to gays
scotplaya 3 years ago 4
U SUCK
xdorknproud65 3 years ago
"Love in Action" commits child abuse and should be outlawed. All these efforts to change the sexual orientation of youth should be outlawed as they represent emotional abuse and a violation of young people's human rights. If we protect kids from sexual abuse with age of consent laws we certainly should protect them from "reparative therapy" which is arguably as damaging.
cedarbeam 3 years ago 4
(continued) do u ever stop to think why we have so many wars? IT'S ALL HATE! and i find it sick and broken that we live in a community that would rather see men holding guns then guys holding hands. i mean seriously i have straight friends and they NEVER call me sick and broken for being gay, and i love them for their support, and im not trying to "correct" you people like you are trying to correct me and other LGBT youth, this is MY opinion! and im sure my friends share this feeling.
rainbowconverse08 3 years ago 4
(continued)you would make anyone feel that way, soo what im gonna marry a woman i love, how is that any of your concern? and do u think ripping on a day like the day of silence is going to make gay people "Go away?"
noooooo there's sooo many and for a country that claimes they love individuality you sure love to call people sinners if they dont fit in your mold and will jump at any chance to call people like me sick, seriously GROW UP the world would be such a better place if u accepted gay ppl
rainbowconverse08 3 years ago
Ok, i am a proud lesbian teenager in highschool, and the fact that you think sending gay teens to camps that turn them straight is a.ok in you book, to me it is messed! and yea i know this is your opinion and everyone has one but seriously? Dude calling me broken and sick is not going to make me wake up tomorrow and start liking guys. and do you also relaize that what you are doing to us gay people is basically what people did to black people during times of segregation?! that is terrible that..
rainbowconverse08 3 years ago
Gay bowel syndome from anal sex?
I'm sorry but straight people have anal sex too.
Mission America doesn't know what Christianity is about if they promote hatred against people...they sound like they want to be the next Hitler.
Chirusu 3 years ago 4
The problem with this theory is that not everybody is a christian.
SilverHorseWolf 3 years ago 3
exactly
xdorknproud65 3 years ago
I'm not going to say your going to go to hell for thinking what you do, because God is forgiving, but with every action you do to hurt a gay person, you DO realize your hurting an actual person, a soul made by God. We all have a bit of God in us, and when you hurt someone you are hurting God. It all makes sense. Read the Bible.
xdorknproud65 3 years ago
(continued)and God can't find it in HIMself to be kind to gay people? i find that hard to believe. God loves everyone, no matter what color, gender or sexuality they are. "Love your neighbor like yourself" Unless you feel that much hate towards yourself that you show toward Gay people, i believe your breaking a rule from God.
xdorknproud65 3 years ago
im a straight roman catholic, and omg guess what. my best friends gay, i love her to pieces. i participated in the day of silence, and this video? IT SICKENS ME
you do realize this is just like black and color discrimination? everyone agrees that was wrong, and how exactly is this different? dont tell me gay people are going to hell. God is supposed to be a kind person, so where do you get the idea of killing actual PEOPLE? not from God. I mean, i can find it in myself to be kind to gay people
xdorknproud65 3 years ago
I personally could care less about what a bunch of superstitious people believe about homosexuality. The fact is not all Christians agree with the interpretation of some fundamentalists. Fortunately we live in a secular society and the religious beliefs of some people do not overcome those of rest of us. Reparative therapy is a joke and that is an established fact.
jonpetry 3 years ago 5
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Well, I believe that homosexualism is sin caused by bonds, chains and demons of Satan. There is no such thing as "repairing homosexual behaviour through therapy" the only way one can truly change is if they give their life to Christ, ask for forgiveness, and let His blood purge them of all sin and rebellion. We cannot use worldly ways like therapy to change human behaviour of sin. Only God can do that.
pinoy7tfc 3 years ago
Nice concept in theory, but it simply does not work.
Jakemmx 3 years ago
To pinoy7tfc- Leviticus 19 v20-22 says it's ok for a man to have sex with a married slave as long as he sacrifices a ram to the Lord. Lev.11v9-12 says eating clams & crabs is an abomination.New Testament 1 Timothy 6 v1-2 tells us slaves should serve and honor their masters,esp if the masters are believers.You shall not eat meat with blood in it,& whoever works on the Sabbath shall be put to death....Ah,but look,it says homosexuality is an abomination. You guys like that one,so you run with it.
vinelandoo 3 years ago 4
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is this video true? No. It hides sooo much and reveals very little (some which is false). Please, do your own research and read the bible. Oh and KaseyAriel, you really need to read the Bible. Sin is in your genetics, but do you let those things stop you? No. You CHOOSE to stop yourself from doing those things. And there is A LOT of stuff about this issue in the bible. Actually read, THEN tell me if you need verses to look at. Please be sure your words are TRUTH before you say false things.
igotjesusinme 3 years ago
The bible doesn't say sin is in our genetics moron, the Catholic church does. If a man is born with a woman's sexuality, it is a sin for that person not to be true to theirself. A Gay man is simply a woman born with the wrong plumbing. Hatred is sin, have a nice time in hell because obviously you don't want to repent for your own sin.
childofdarkness11 3 years ago
-sigh- Okay, so now the Catholic Church is TOTALLY OKAY with trannies, but not gays?
Bullshit.
A gay man is a man who's attracted to men. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm a girl. I identify as a girl. I have skirts and the like. And I'm attracted to other girls.
You obviously contradict yourself. Saying someone should go to Hell is very, very hateful, and discriminating against gays more so. All you're doing is perpetuating hatred. You must be a very guilty person. Good luck.
LoveEqualsLove 3 years ago 5
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loveequalslove what if i fuck your pussy till its inside comes out would you still be gay? the anti gays are merciless towards you gays.killing you is like killing a devil. and by the way none gays are more, so beware!!
USnomore 3 years ago
Oh, a few more notes.
Being merciless is not a virtue. Killing is not a virtue. Rape is not a virtue. Hate is not a virtue. Try reading the New Testament, because Jesus condemns such things. Also, it's a fascinating read and an international bestseller. Can't go wrong.
Rape would not make me straight, no. It's sad that you would threaten that on anyone. It's sad that you think that killing anyone is a good thing. I have never, ever done anything to you. All I want is contentment.
LoveEqualsLove 3 years ago 2
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(CONTINUED) I have gay friends, and they are wonderful, but i don't see that their sexual orientation is right. Also,Michelle from the video was a FORMER lesbian who did actually choose God. No one should ever be forced to change but CHOOSE through their will. We want to only help those through love and compassion of Jesus Christ.I believe that being homosexual is not a disease or such, but just a sin that we are born with,as with all the other sins,and we need to take that sin out of our lives.
igotjesusinme 3 years ago
To igotjesusinme: Trust me,you don't have gay friends, you have gay acquaintances. They tolerate you, like you tolerate them (Unless you've got them on one of your religious guilt trips. Then your supposed religion has them not even tolerating themselves. How sad!)
vinelandoo 3 years ago
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(i am a Christian teen) Harper does not show he hates gays and bisexuals because he has not said or showed that in any way, but he is just pointing out, through verses in the Bible, about what is right through the eyes of God. This video clearly is hiding many things about what we Christians believe in. We do not hate gays, bisexuals, etc. We love them but we oppose what they do because God tells EVERYONE it is wrong.
igotjesusinme 3 years ago
Well, thank Goddess for other religious beliefs. <3
VincentTheValentine 3 years ago 3
Tell me this homophobes, I have quite a few homosexual friends, I grew up raised by a female electrical engineer, I played male oriented sports my whole life, and everything in my enviroment says I should be homosexual. But guess what? I'm not. I'm straighter than most of you.
It's in your genetics. Live with it. Oh, also, there's nothing in the Bible against it, Sodom and Gomorrah was about RAPE, morons.
Jesus taught love. Christians who hate are not Christians at all.
KaseyAriel 3 years ago 20
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God hates the sin not the sinner. It is the Christian way to be more like HIM.
pinoy7tfc 3 years ago
I agree with the first statement, but the second sentence doesn't make sence. God has no gender, how does your sexuality (or lack thereof) make you more like him?
childofdarkness11 3 years ago 3
@KaseyAriel there's no logic to these people though - they ignore examples like this. Some people are just horrible, and bigoted. Shame :(
LuciferWasAnAngel 1 year ago
@KaseyAriel Uh what your point mentioning who raised you, playing male sports has anything to do with this amd what do you mean by "Everything in your enviorment says you should be homosexual?"
MIKECNW 9 months ago
ahaha silly cult members
Gawd haets fayugs!
EmoKidsScott 3 years ago
God doesn't hate anybody dumbass.
KaseyAriel 3 years ago
WTF
OK I THOUGHT GOD LOVES EVERYONE!!??!!
how wrong..
anti - gay
anti is hate
psht why the eff is gay even a word?
cant it just be human
treat gays and everyone else equally!!
soragorelikespie 3 years ago 14
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thats encouraging their sin...burn no or later, you choose
pinoy7tfc 3 years ago
It's a choice why would a person make a choice to be harassed by people day after day.
I'm a stright christen, and I don't not like at all the fact that you say hate is a christen view. I'm an Episcopalian, and we belive in the equal of rights of all human beings, god loves EVERYONE.
I'm doing the day of silence because I belive that god created and loves everyone.
It's very sad that you can't see that the message of the Bible is love.
Love.
magalicious0135 3 years ago 3
What an excellent resource. I think maybe another apt title would be "Shedding Light on the Lunatic Fringe".
thomasj17764u 3 years ago
In other words, people engage in homosexuality independent of the erotic drives to do so, as if these desires come from some other source that is outside of what is biologically preordained. What you are doing is nothing more than trying to give bigotry some scientific weight, which it doesn't have. Your presentation is entirely specious, something that sounds logical, but isn't. Specious: the use of intelligence in avoiding the truth. Special science? Reparative therapy is special science!
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
For all gays who want to know the truth about homosexual behavior and what the experts say search for the report released May 9, 2001 at the annual American Psychiatric Association convention, psychiatrist Dr. Robert Spitzer, Chief of Biometrics Research and Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia University in New York City. Spitzer is one of the first docs to have homosexuality accepted as normal behavior. If you don't think gays are basically heterosexual and can change back argue with him.
95cooks 3 years ago
You can go to Wayne Besen's channel and watch a video by Spitzer himself and how he admits that his research is distorted. What you are saying is that the millions of gay people around the world are lying and that those "experts" who say differently know better. Some professionals think we are all basically bisexual, but I don't by that either.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
Wow, two doctors against hundreds. Good job.
KaseyAriel 3 years ago
Homosexuality is a positive attraction and has nothing to do with a lack or fear of something else. I love how you guys come up with these psuedoscientific and psuedointellectual excuses for not accepting homosexuality as a healthy and natural variant. There is not a single documented, satisfactory case of a homosexual becoming a heterosexual, except those offered by "Christian" ministries, and these ministries will not allow peer review evaluations.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 3
BeatBuddy, when you say gayness is a "combination of genetics.." what scientific studies can you offer us to support your claim? In fact, heterosexuality, and all anatomy, biology, science, etc., does need to be explained and can be easily. Science is not there to use when you want it; it was established to explain all physical truths in the universe. The anatomy and physiology of male and female humans - hormones, chromosomes, and body parts - clearly explains heterosexuality.
95cooks 3 years ago
What you are saying, in effect, is that if people are not exclusively heterosexual, that there is something wrong with them. There are a variety of studies than can be cited, such as the Swedish discovery that pheromones found in gay men is roughly equivalent to those of heterosexual women. The studies are too numerous to name here. Further, the physiology and anatomy is right, for homosexuals. What is natural is not uniformity of sexuality, as you imply. It is diversity that is natural.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 2
It's a choice why would a person make a choice to be harassed by people day after day.
I'm a stright christen, and I don't not like at all the fact that you say hate is a christen view. I'm an Episcopalian, and we belive in the equal of rights of all human beings, god loves EVERYONE.
I'm doing the day of silence because I belive that god created and loves everyone.
It's very sad that you can't see that the message of the Bible is love.
Love.
nemway 3 years ago 2
Homosexuality is not choice anymore than heterosexuality. Those who believe otherwise are apparently bisexual which also is not a choice but allows those so inclined to enjoy relationships with both sexes, hence their mistaken belief that everyone has this "choice".
I'm exclusively gay, and how that fact affects any of my bi or straight neighbors is beyond me. Keep your god out of my bedroom and I'll keep mine out of yours.
cedarbeam 3 years ago
The ex-gays are correct, and good for them. I don't care what you do, but they have helped many people from this lifestyle.The gays are all for encouraging young people to try gay relationships to see which way feels right for them. But just try suggesting that people try the normal lifestyle and you will be vilified.The ex gays prefer normal lives, so why criticize them? Why are the gays so afraid of this? Just do what you want and stop crying about what others want to do. Hypocrites.
cooks95 3 years ago
Okay, there is no "trying" a straight relationship here. If you're gay, you're gay. That's all there is to it. And stop referring to heterosexuality as a "normal" life. A gay person can have every bit of a normal life that a straight person can. The only thing that stands in our way is the big block of STUPID that is you people that tell us we can't.
longskirtchick 3 years ago 2
Learn about your own religion. Activist Darrell Yates Rist, a co-founder of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation believes it is certainly possible for children to be "lured by queer ideas" into the homosexual lifestyle.He said that parents know this and are worried by it, because "they too understand that sexually free ideas are infectious and that, once introduced to the suggestion of same-sex love, their kids might just try it and like it."
95cooks 3 years ago
Please be specific on what these "queer ideas" are. Common sense dictates that when you are hated and stigmatized for being what you can't help, then you will take a deeper look at people and the society in which you live, and form impressions. The cruelties that gays have been historically subjected to have been rarely matched, and these cruelties are in sharp contradiction to the noble values that ethics have taught through the ages.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 3
The "ex-gays" are NOT correct. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. It's not the love of Christ, but the hatred of self that provides incentive to want to change. You cannot encourage anyone to be gay; you can only encourage people to accept their homosexuality if they happen to be gay. Living outside of your sexuality while pretending to have another is not leading a "normal" life. Gays ARE NOT afraid of "ex-gays"; it's the "ex-gay" movement that tries to distort the truths about gay people.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 3
I'm not against people who want to live a "normal" lifestyle, however, I am very against anybody who forces them to do so.
KaseyAriel 3 years ago 2
i was scared, after seeing this. but knowledge is power. so i will fight this to the death!
soschadao 3 years ago
These people that counter the day of truth has some evil vibe around them.
scotplaya 3 years ago
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I love the Day of Silence. One less day of Broadway show tunes being sung in the hallways.
capon33 3 years ago
Okay, that was offensive, but also really, really funny.
longskirtchick 3 years ago
I have a lot of respect for Broadway show tunes!! I'm really tired of them being sung in locker rooms, or in kick line fashion as one is going down the stairs!!
capon33 3 years ago
the only Truth which matters is not of Man's reasoning or intelect. The Truth that matters is God's Son, Truth.
Hebrews 10:26-27
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
lipofTruth 3 years ago
Sorry but the bible is nothing but a fairy tale
scotplaya 3 years ago
please do not be sorry for me. What if you are wrong?
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
lipofTruth 3 years ago
What if you are wrong? If Allah is the true God, you're fucked and you're going to Hell. Until a God comes and tells us what's what, live your life.
TheGodMar 3 years ago
Long Live the ADF and their great cause, educate yourself, don't be brainwashed in the agenda
jacre85 3 years ago
Whose agenda, the ADF or the National Day Of Silence?
zortnacpah 3 years ago
You guys are brainwashed. No amount of research or evidence will change your mind. You're hateful and disgusting. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Your brain's are scrambled. You can't even critically think anymore.
TheGodMar 3 years ago
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It doesn't matter if homosexual traits are inborn...the fact is, engaging in homosexual activity is 100% a choice. Americans need to hear the truth about the dangers of this lifestyle. They also should know that hate crimes against religious people are about as high as against gays, and besides that, racial hate crimes are 3 x as high! Gays want us all to believe they are persecuted so that they can get their deviant ideas into law...and silence their critics.
ace8842 3 years ago
Hate crimes against anyone are wrong; what point are you trying to make by saying that other types of hate crimes also exist? Why do you think that the numbers of religious hate crimes or racial hate crimes means that queer people don't face persecution?
zortnac 3 years ago
my problem with "normalcy" is this: people who look normal are the sex offenders, rapists, and peds.. Most of them are seemingly normal in appearance..
You can never tell what normal is..
Aboish1981nj 3 years ago
If anybody comes to me with a card like that, I'll kick them in the kidneys and drag them out and away from the building by their ears.
Fluffypear 3 years ago 2
Aww they're greatest male fighters are self-hating gays. Poor people.
Agila1 3 years ago
"Ex-gay Ministries": what a farce and dangerous lie!
Agila1 3 years ago
I'm sorry if your changes did not stick. Mine did, and did not require "reparative therapy," but reading God's word for myself, and seeking to please God. It wasn't as hard as you might think it would be, but it was certainly worth the peace of mind.
gdmjmatt2540 3 years ago
What is it about homosexuality that is so displeasing to God . I mean the commandments make sense God doesnt just make up rules cause he wants to cause he's bored so what do you think is so damaging about homosexuality that God says its wrong in your mind ?
krissy4nik 3 years ago
To the christians who say homosexuality is wrong look at jonathan and david. And it came to pass, when he [David] had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul." (1 Sam. 18:1).That same day,"Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul"(1 Sam. 18:3). Jonathan removes and offers David the rich garments he is wearing, and shares with him his worldly possessions...
krissy4nik 3 years ago
Eventhough I doubt the story is about homosexuality, I find nothing wrong with it.
In fact anyone saying homosexualiy is a sin is a liar.
Agila1 3 years ago
Eh, there are some cultural things that lead me to believe it is like in those times you did not move out until you got married but jonathan and david lived together. the fact that when jonathan and david formed this bond his father said he was "confused and perverse" ive heard those things said about gay children by their parents but ive never herd anyone called a pervert or confused for wanting someone to be their friend.
krissy4nik 3 years ago
When I read it I hear the mother being called perverse. Be they homosexual or not, we won't really know, but one thing is for sure: the Bible does not condemn homosexuality as anything sinful or evil.
Agila1 3 years ago
How ironic the boy who started this whole thing looks like a girl on that "Day of Truth" website.
InXanadu2 4 years ago
Most people aren't "afraid" of homosexuality. 'Homophobia' is a misnomer. Thinking its wrong is not the same thing. Gays SHOULD be ashamed just as if thieves or wife-beaters should be ashamed. Wrong is wrong. Desensitizing Americans isn't going to change it.
batesm 4 years ago
Youre right about it being a misnomer . Its not homophobia its heterosexism . You think you are superior to gay people and even God doesnt accept them. Do you knwo how damaging it is to say to a young person even God doesnt love who you are ?
krissy4nik 3 years ago
Heterosexism? Are you kidding? You're trying to normalize an aberrant behavior by claiming some kind of equal right of identity with being (normal) heterosexual. That's like saying I'm a, "truth-tellerist." The mere opposition attempts to add credence to the deviance, as if a liar has rights and shouldn't be disparaged. Homosexuality is the aberrant behavior. Humans weren't designed to be homosexual. Pretty simple. I never mentioned God, btw and being normal is superior to any deviance.
batesm 3 years ago
"normality" isnt superior to any devience. It is normal in america to be a white person because you are of the majority does taht make you superior ? Being a genious is not normal does that make them inferior to the average person ? I still havent heard any reason as to WHY homosexuality is so bad and damaging as you claim. If you can provide me one reason why homosexuality is bad that has nothing to do with stereotypes and social conditions ill stop supporting my gay friends.
krissy4nik 3 years ago
You don't choose to be black or white, Krissy. Use a little logic. Being a genius is a factor of education - also genetics. Homosexuals don't beget other homosexuals. It doesn't run in the family. Born homo is a tired, baseless argument. Desensitization of our society from the persistent injection of this immoral agenda has damaged it immensely. Respect, personal responsibility, chivalry, empathy are all archaic notions now. Watch any TV lately? It's anything goes!
batesm 3 years ago
not every genetic is passed on directly to children it can be a dormant gene. Also it could be caused by conditions in the womb. As I said previously ( see comment below) lets suppose it is a choice what is wrong with it ? You keep talking about all of this immorality but you never express how it is harmful to people. You are right about one thing though empathy is an archaic notion. The people in this video have a problem with students tht express empathy for victims of bashing thats ok to you?
krissy4nik 3 years ago
I see. You're a geneticist. I didn't realize you had a research project going studying the hereditary of a dormant homosexual gene. Just because genes can be dormant doesn't mean there exists a dormant 'homosexual' gene. You're reaching.
Let me answer your question about harmful affect by asking a questions. Why is bestiality wrong? It doesn't hurt anyone.
I've explained ad nauseum that violence is not an appropriate response. Should I use smaller words?
batesm 3 years ago
Your argument is terrible regardless of how big, or small, your words are. Why are you comparing homosexuality to bestiality? Consensual sexual acts, be they gay or straight, are exactly that, *consensual*. A sexual act without consent is rape; animals cannot give consent.
There is no comparison between homosexual sex and bestiality.
zortnac 3 years ago
So, as long as the 13 year old girl says yes to the 35 year old man, its cool. Right? OR maybe the farmers sheep gives consent with silence... My ANALOGY was rebuttal to Krissy's absurd argument that homosexual behavior isn't harmful to society. Immorality in all forms harm society. Obviously my big words soared over your young melon.
batesm 3 years ago
Underage children are not legally capable of giving consent. "Consent with silence?" No.
Your response to claim that homosexuality is inherently a harmless nature, and a victimless action, is absurd. If you want to convince people that homosexuality is harmful, you'll have to do better than making bogus and tired comparisons to other sexual acts that have zero relevant resemblance.
zortnac 3 years ago
I'm not comparing homosexuality with other aberrant except to say their aberrant. You continue to miss my points and my stipulations. Immorality is harmful to society. That's the thesis, stop trying to change the argument and redefining my argument. Reading comprehension wasn't a high score for you, I gather.
batesm 3 years ago
I'm not turning your argument in to anything other than what you've made it. You're asserting that homosexuality is immoral without actually supporting that claim. When someone claims that a harmless and victimless act, like homosexuality, cannot be immoral, you try to use analogies like bestiality and pedophilia, which are in fact NOT harmless, not consensual, and not victimless.
If there's anything I'm missing it's the reasoning behind your points, and that's because you haven't given any.
zortnac 3 years ago
Homosexuality isn't harmful to society. It's harmful to your stupid ass and others like you but that's it. Gays live in society, gays work, gays raise children and society is still fine. And where the hell did child molestation come from? Quit being an idiot. You're homophobic. Admit and fix it.
TheGodMar 3 years ago
"Society is still fine" That's your opinion. Your lack of respect is evidence to the contrary, kid. To call me a homophobe is to imply I fear homosexuals. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm repulsed by them like I'm repulsed by smarmy car salesman. Car salesmen don't scare me, yet I still avoid them. There's nothing to fix.
batesm 3 years ago
By the by, twin studies, birth order studies, research on the limbic systems of homosexuals and heterosexuals, all support the ever-more-supported theory that homosexuality is primarily biological in nature.
Repeat what you want to be the case all you like, post your opinion of how you think homosexuality works on forums everywhere, the fact remains that a person's sexual orientation, not their actions, aren't chosen, and any gay person can confirm that for you.
zortnac 3 years ago
I don't dispute that homosexuality is biological. You can make the same argument about heterosexual behavior, politeness or altruism. All biological behavioral choices. The difference being, homosexuality is not only aberrant behavior but biologically superfluous and vain.
batesm 3 years ago
You're contradicting yourself, and you seem to be confusing the concepts of attraction and behavior. Homosexuality, as an attraction, like heterosexuality, is not a choice. No one chooses their sexual attractions, they experience them naturally.
zortnac 3 years ago
Nothing natural about homosexuality. I haven't contradicted myself, I've only contradicted your thinking. "The concepts" are YOUR concepts. Attraction is "behavior" and behavior is a choice. Any behavior is a choice. Using adjectives like "natural" isn't going to change that.
batesm 3 years ago
Homosexuality seems to occur steadily, and naturally, with the same odds, regardless of time or place, and not as the consequence of some man-made device or tampering. In that sense, it is very natural.
Look up the word "behavior." If I choose to kiss another guy, *that* is a choice. My being sexually attracted to the other guy in the first place, not to mention my complete lack of attraction towards women, is so obviously *not* a choice.
This is not a hard concept to grasp, batesm.
zortnac 3 years ago
Attraction isn't a behavior. You're ignorant as hell. And you don't choose who you're attracted, too. It's a combination of genetics and environment. Educate yourself, please.
TheGodMar 3 years ago
I most certainly choose who I'm attracted to. To deny this behavior is fatalistic and irresponsible. Being married has squelched this behavior. I choose to be monogamous like I choose to be heterosexual.
batesm 3 years ago
Everyone says that homosexuality is a combination of genetics and environment. This is one of those subconscious manifestations of prejudice. It's predicated on the idea that homosexuality needs to be explained while heterosexuality does not. Heterosexuality is ALSO a combination of genetics and environment.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 3
How about you being ashamed of your ignorance and stupidity for a change?
Agila1 3 years ago
If you can convince me of my ignorance and stupidity, I'll be glad to oblige you young man.
batesm 3 years ago
Checking science would help for a change. It is a fact that anything pertaining to a minority is not "normal" - not pertaining to the "norm", though this does not mean it is unnatural or even wrong.
"Humans weren't designed to be homosexual" "being normal is superior". There was a time it was norm to believe the planet was flat - didn't make it right though.
Agila1 3 years ago
Indeed...but you're comparing apples and oranges. Choosing to be homosexual (aberrant behavior) and believing the world is flat (ignorance), aren't the same thing and hardly analogous. Simple biology shows that homosexuality is aberrant. Science isn't going to change that. It's a behavioral choice, not a physiological difference.
batesm 3 years ago
ok , i dont believe it is a choice but lets just venture out to say it is. Why is it a choice that should be condemned ?
krissy4nik 3 years ago
Actually science proves that homosexuality is natural and NOT a choice. But if you're speaking about "science" as in the type of "creation 'science'", then I can understand where you got this view from XD
Agila1 3 years ago
Science proves no such thing.
batesm 3 years ago
yeh "creation science" only proves the stupidity of a certain group of people.
Agila1 3 years ago
Statistical twin studies, research on the difference between limbic systems in heterosexuals and homosexuals, differences in pheromone response, and most devastating, the fraternal birth order study, all contribute to a mountain of still-growing evidence supporting the theory that homosexuality is, for the vast majority of gay people, natural and inborn.
The theory that homosexuality is learned after birth has very little evidence supporting it.
The theory that it's a choice, is laughable.