Take a look at other bands like Ayala High School and Tarpon Springs. Both use sousaphones. Who sound amazing. Particularly Ayala HS within itself is a DrumCorp at the HS level. Staffed with Blue Devils blood and head John Meehan, Drill by Leon May. But these players are not weak lazy men/women. They do not suck. They are a mini BD. As for power, It's not the instrument, It's the Player. Just being a contra doesnt mean your powerful, because sousas can kick your...any day. Theres my 2 cents.
@Bigyomann i respect your opinion, but in my past few years in my HS marching band, going around to other high schools to watch them practice, and just playing with random groups around indiana, i still havent found a single sousa player who could outplay me with my contra, i also have never found a sousa player who was big enough to kick my ass, lol
@MrTubanator I agree with you though for the most part, Contras beat out East Coast Sousa's (No offense East Coast) but come to the West Coast ^_^ Now there's some debating on that part. You can find Sousa's on the west coast with competiton. And some who can beat my ass too being a heavy build at 6' 7" :D
But thanks for replying, I was the only one for awhile.
@meeman21 amen!!! Haha sousaphones are crap contras where it's at and tigergal you may be In a marching band but if you ever hope to be as good as any drum corps u use contras if you wanna sound like ass though so be it haha
Sousaphones are nice, they're easy to carry, easy to maintain, and make AMAZING visuals. But they suck for tone quality. I thought my school's Yamaha Sousas didn't sound very good compared to Tubas, then I tried other sousas and they sounded even worse. I'd take a Contra over a Sousaphone almost any time.
contra's have their own advantages over sousas, as do sousas over contras. Aside from the fact that contra has more advantages than sousas, they are simply much more practical for such a high intensity activity.
@Bassmastaful well its a good idea but it depends on the size of your band, like we got 12 tubas 10 baritones, and 9 mellos, and buying contras alone would cost a little more than $40,000... but i like the direction you are going with that
@Phantom663 yea my school has five tubas five euphs and usually we have 6 or 7 mellos but this year we had 3. so it wouldnt be that much to raise i think.
@Phantom663 HA, my director thinks contras are better than sousaphones. but i love both contras and sousaphones, they both have their benefits. Sousaphones were made simply for making it easier for the player to march and play at the same time. Contras were made probably because they do sound better, but i make any tuba, sousaphone or contra, sound good :P
Drum Corps only play valved, bell-front instruments. Sousas technically aren't bell-front, so you can't perform with them. However, at a lot of preseason music camps, there aren't enough contras for every contra player, so people bring releaded tubas or sousas of their own and play those until the season start.
That's why they don't let in trombones, either. Though as to the valve trombone, long or short, I'm not sure.
oh yeah i know. haha, i was just Curious at marcAlonz0. I was wondering if his school used sousa's instead of Contra's because he/she said "I wish my school played Contras!!!!!!" that's all. I know they only play front bell valved instruments buddy ;)
@pongrules12 AGREED. Most high school's use sousas because the tuba players are weak and lazy. Only real men/women use contras because they actually want good/loud sound to come out. And they want to get a strong right shoulder after marching season
@Tuba408Bass I find that offensive man, I play Sousaphone at our High school, but I would gladly play Contra if we had them, its just they both have positives about them, but they also have faults, you can make a great sound out of a sousaphone, im guessing you have only played Contra?
@redredblood1 I played sousaphone for 3 years in an honor marching band until we had enough money to switch to Contras. Honestly, the only positive about sousas are visuals. Besides that, Contras overpower on everything else.
Star 93's drum major is Matt Harloff, the guy you hear yelling in the video... brass caption head. Also, Crown's Drum major that year is the son of Star 93's Brass caption head....
is that the tubas and euphs/ baris doing hemiola stuff at the end with duples in the music and triplet feet? that must have been hard to get everyone to do that
Take a look at other bands like Ayala High School and Tarpon Springs. Both use sousaphones. Who sound amazing. Particularly Ayala HS within itself is a DrumCorp at the HS level. Staffed with Blue Devils blood and head John Meehan, Drill by Leon May. But these players are not weak lazy men/women. They do not suck. They are a mini BD. As for power, It's not the instrument, It's the Player. Just being a contra doesnt mean your powerful, because sousas can kick your...any day. Theres my 2 cents.
Bigyomann 8 months ago
@Bigyomann i respect your opinion, but in my past few years in my HS marching band, going around to other high schools to watch them practice, and just playing with random groups around indiana, i still havent found a single sousa player who could outplay me with my contra, i also have never found a sousa player who was big enough to kick my ass, lol
MrTubanator 8 months ago
@MrTubanator I agree with you though for the most part, Contras beat out East Coast Sousa's (No offense East Coast) but come to the West Coast ^_^ Now there's some debating on that part. You can find Sousa's on the west coast with competiton. And some who can beat my ass too being a heavy build at 6' 7" :D
But thanks for replying, I was the only one for awhile.
P.S. Come to California!
Bigyomann 8 months ago
@Bigyomann lol, im 6 ft 7 also and im actually working on getting money together to go visit some friends in california, lol
MrTubanator 8 months ago
@MrTubanator YES!
Bigyomann 8 months ago
I like how there are so many comments about dislike about Sousaphones.
The main difference most Band Directors look about is tone quality, cost, and portability.
Tone: Sousaphones are warmer and multidirectional, Contras are Brighter and single direction.
Cost: Avg Contra $6100. Avg Sousa $7300.
Portability: Depends on the band. Generally Contras a more portable. But I've seen/been in bands that and transport a sousa better than a contra.
Bigyomann 8 months ago in playlist Hornline
@meeman21 amen!!! Haha sousaphones are crap contras where it's at and tigergal you may be In a marching band but if you ever hope to be as good as any drum corps u use contras if you wanna sound like ass though so be it haha
BrightonRl 9 months ago
Sousaphones are nice, they're easy to carry, easy to maintain, and make AMAZING visuals. But they suck for tone quality. I thought my school's Yamaha Sousas didn't sound very good compared to Tubas, then I tried other sousas and they sounded even worse. I'd take a Contra over a Sousaphone almost any time.
WW2obsession 10 months ago
This is an exact quote from my high school band director "I will not buy contras because we are a marching band not a drum corps."
No need for explanation.
tigergal6575 1 year ago
@tigergal6575 quote from my high school band director
"i will never teach a band that uses sousaphones because i will not let my tuba section sound like ass"
meeman21 9 months ago
contra's have their own advantages over sousas, as do sousas over contras. Aside from the fact that contra has more advantages than sousas, they are simply much more practical for such a high intensity activity.
holagrey 1 year ago
i wish our highschool used contras. we had those damn fiberglass sousas.
thestout77 1 year ago
it makes me mad that our band director thinks sousa's are better than contra's when the very obviously arnt....
Phantom663 1 year ago 23
@Phantom663 Susie's have bad tone and look bad with visuals. DCI uses contra's for a reason.
arrowmarcher 1 year ago 2
@Phantom663 i wish my band director would let us fund raise to buy new contras euphs baritones and mellos
Bassmastaful 1 year ago
@Bassmastaful well its a good idea but it depends on the size of your band, like we got 12 tubas 10 baritones, and 9 mellos, and buying contras alone would cost a little more than $40,000... but i like the direction you are going with that
Phantom663 1 year ago
@Phantom663 yea my school has five tubas five euphs and usually we have 6 or 7 mellos but this year we had 3. so it wouldnt be that much to raise i think.
Bassmastaful 1 year ago
@Phantom663 HA, my director thinks contras are better than sousaphones. but i love both contras and sousaphones, they both have their benefits. Sousaphones were made simply for making it easier for the player to march and play at the same time. Contras were made probably because they do sound better, but i make any tuba, sousaphone or contra, sound good :P
bloodvein3 1 year ago
are you all talking about Tim Snyder? He's working with our band now.
pianodb 2 years ago
nah Tim wasn't screaming, but he is freakin awesome
lilspizack 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA, just that guy yelling makes this video epic
chaosdude14 2 years ago
LMAO harloff ... oh god is it sad i kinda miss him yelling
flyingfoxable 2 years ago
I don't find it sad. I miss him yelling too :/ Even though it's only been like 4 weeks since I last heard him yell.
lilspizack 2 years ago
I fucking luv this part, I wish my school played Contras!!!!!!
marcAlonz0 2 years ago
why? do they play sousaphone's instead?
UesugiVincentibanez 2 years ago
@UesugiVincentibanez
Drum Corps only play valved, bell-front instruments. Sousas technically aren't bell-front, so you can't perform with them. However, at a lot of preseason music camps, there aren't enough contras for every contra player, so people bring releaded tubas or sousas of their own and play those until the season start.
That's why they don't let in trombones, either. Though as to the valve trombone, long or short, I'm not sure.
KHorbust 2 years ago
oh yeah i know. haha, i was just Curious at marcAlonz0. I was wondering if his school used sousa's instead of Contra's because he/she said "I wish my school played Contras!!!!!!" that's all. I know they only play front bell valved instruments buddy ;)
UesugiVincentibanez 2 years ago
@UesugiVincentibanez Sousas suck compared to contras
KauaiBallerof2012 1 year ago 3
@KauaiBallerof2012 contras are a million times better, my school uses them, and they are the best. hands down.
pongrules12 1 year ago 14
@pongrules12 AGREED. Most high school's use sousas because the tuba players are weak and lazy. Only real men/women use contras because they actually want good/loud sound to come out. And they want to get a strong right shoulder after marching season
Tuba408Bass 1 year ago
@Tuba408Bass I find that offensive man, I play Sousaphone at our High school, but I would gladly play Contra if we had them, its just they both have positives about them, but they also have faults, you can make a great sound out of a sousaphone, im guessing you have only played Contra?
redredblood1 1 year ago
@redredblood1 I played sousaphone for 3 years in an honor marching band until we had enough money to switch to Contras. Honestly, the only positive about sousas are visuals. Besides that, Contras overpower on everything else.
Tuba408Bass 1 year ago
@pongrules12 so does my high school, we use contras, and i actually love playing them
bloodvein3 1 year ago
@KauaiBallerof2012 Lol, alright, i'll take your word for it... considering imma baritone player ;)
UesugiVincentibanez 1 year ago
Oh lawd, is that some Harloff screaming at contras?
cet0708 2 years ago
oh yea
lilspizack 2 years ago
OMG!!! I'm love this contras part!!!
tytzer93 2 years ago 2
Wow, my band played bernstein music for a marching show. candide, chichester, and waterfront. that was hard. but of course Crown sounds amazing!!
snotweednik 2 years ago
I effing love Crown low brass. I would sell my left nut to be able to march with them. True.
cxetim 2 years ago 3
Ah well I did not know that
cone256 2 years ago
Reminds me of Star's incredible contra line of 92, ironic if you know who crown's horn staff is.
jeffe77 3 years ago
I'm guessing Star's marching members?
drumcorps83 2 years ago
yup, and instructors, and drum major
coffeeguy9 2 years ago
What does the drum major have to do with Star?
cone256 2 years ago
Star 93's drum major is Matt Harloff, the guy you hear yelling in the video... brass caption head. Also, Crown's Drum major that year is the son of Star 93's Brass caption head....
Theres something going on there
coffeeguy9 2 years ago
16 strong
jeffe77 2 years ago
is that the tubas and euphs/ baris doing hemiola stuff at the end with duples in the music and triplet feet? that must have been hard to get everyone to do that
phantomphan01 3 years ago
it sure is
derekusama 2 years ago
love this contra line
DrumAj27 3 years ago
biggest contraline ive seen... golllllly
LZdude532 3 years ago
those are yamahas
shortstuba2006 3 years ago
know where i could find a used one?
bodybuildingfan10 3 years ago
crown sells theirs every year on their website
derekusama 2 years ago
does anyone know exactly what kind of tubas those are?
bodybuildingfan10 3 years ago
yamaha
guitarmonkey2010 2 years ago
hell yea!! sweet 16!! I hope to be on the line in 2010
21brandon 3 years ago
ha cool me too
meatbag65 3 years ago
lol.... blaming people and shit spanky.
lilspizack 3 years ago
spanky!!
jordanwv 3 years ago
it was george.
Spanky5570 3 years ago