I want to get this whole family high. If that doesn't do anything to them we need to forcibly slam all of them with heroine, maybe some acid, coke, ecstasy, etc...
what I'm trying to say is they all need to do lots of drugs. Now, I know myself and I function just fine with no drugs but this whole family needs a perception change.
The children of Westboro "church" are not home-schooled. They go to public school. All of their parents must work in order to pay for their picketing excurisons. Get your facts right and stop slandering people.
@SecondLaw1 yeah dont slander the people who claim we will eat our babies. but ur rite about the schooling. they also have to hold down a job and r forced to turn over 10% of their pay to the church. sounds like a cult. there r a few other very corrupt and controversial ways which they get money
@travmanbw43 It's been a while, but I thought I'd reply anyway. I was talking about slandering homeschoolers by claiming that these jerks are part of that group.
We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. He has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother. 1 John 19-21
I don't give a shit what the fucking Bible says, it's just a damn old book for crying out loud! Give this shit a rest already! Why is it that Bible Thumpers are always hateful homophobes?
@Poochalot Hold on to that thought. I'll make your question my own, and ask as you ask: why IS it that so-called "Bible Thumpers" are ALWAYS "hateful homophobes?" Have you never considered that it may be because they actually READ the Bible (instead of simply swallowing the distorted interpretations made by libtard theologians), and simply come to realize that the Bible DOES condemn this vile sin and act accordingly?
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay and wearing clothes of two different fabrics and planting two crops in one field. seems you bible thumpers tend to overlook those because it isn't as appealing as hot gay man on man sex right punkin? and there is a world of difference between reading and understanding which you prove with every post. love is more fun than hate sweetie - you should try it sometime and understand what your savior was talking about. or did you "READ" that part too?
@thegayprovocateur Hey have you ever noticed that when you try to talk to a homophobe about gay rights they just want to talk about gay men having sex? If it's such a "sin" then why are they all obsessed with it? Me thinks perhaps they protest to much to hide what they don't want to acknowledge about themselves. Homophobia is truly a pathetic thing.
@Poochalot@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay - indeed - and studies show that those who are homophobic are more "anatomically responsive" to gay porn. in other words they have attraction for the same sex that they don't want to acknowledge - become self-loathing - and project their hate of themselves toward others. i agree - it truly is a pathetic and unfortunately sad situation for them.
@thegayprovocateur Yes there have indeed been studies on homophobic men who responded to gay porn with sexual arousal, they denied being aroused but the results showed they had been sexually aroused by 2 men having sex. If society could just become a little more tolerant of homosexuality it wouldn't be such a big deal anymore. I find it very sad that people are so afraid of love when it's the most wonderful emotion a person can feel.
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay Do you honestly think that the bullshit fairy tales of the Bible are REAL? It was written during a time when people were convinced that the flat earth stood still at the center of the universe!
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay and what makes the bible such a great authority. and please dont say cuz its gods and he even says it in the bible. that circular logic will get u nowhere. wat makes the bible so great. i hate 2 b the 1 to tell u but the bible was written by a few men who wanted to control the world. its a marketing scheme. if ur gonna follow the bible u might as well live by the laws of harry potter. gay people r born that way. u dont have to accept it and thats okay, but dont spread ur hate
I'm not a supporter of these people or anything but get your facts straight, the children arnt home school each if them have gone through the public school system, they are just preached these things from the adults around them.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX yes i can see a world without people who believe in the right to choice and privacy. ahh its magnificent. even more illegitimate children. mothers abandoning kids they cant afford. kids going hungry as the parents work 3 jobs each to keep food on the table. i love the sound of that
@travmanbw43 Here's a wild idea...why don't you actually hold all the irresponsible deadbeats responsible for THEIR OWN actions? Illegitimate children are the fault of their PARENTS. And as you can see from the sickening comment I originally responded to, pro-choicers merely want to avoid any responsibility of their actions. They are narcissists who have no regard for human life. A society of legal abortion only reinforces the irresponsible behavior and disregard for raising children.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX here's an even crazier idea. why don't you live your life, and allow other people to live their life. somebody else getting an abortion has no affect on you. the amount of illegitamate children would only rise without abortion you moronic, overly religious, bible thumping fool, do to the fact that more men would leave as they don't want to deal with kids, and that many more children would also go hungry. why should a person be forced to have a kid they do not want.
@travmanbw43 if abortions were illegal, the population crisis would be even worse, the number of illegitimate children would be higher, as would the amount of kids in foster care, amount of abandoned kids, as well as kids not even being raised because the parents will be off working to make ends meet. this could even raise crime, drug, and gang rates. but lets outlaw abortion just because your fictional book says its bad
@travmanbw43 Guess what? I'm not a narcissist who ignores the evils of the world and only worries about what directly affects me. Where did you get the idea that I was religious? I'm agnostic. Good job making yourself look like an idiot. Abortion only contributes to the decline of the western world you naive fool. An abortion-supporting culture only creates more illegitimate children because it helps form the entitled, irresponsible, anti-family, anti-life mindset that is so common today.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you sure seem religious. and guess what, abortion is legal in most of the western world, and there are still people that cheat, divorce, abandon kids in dumpsters, and again they have the choice to end the pregnancy. but they dont, and still bad things happen. abortion is not an evil. it's a simple option to avoid something you aren't ready for, like raising another life.
@travmanbw43 I must be religious because I don't condone murder? It's people like you that only reinforce the negative stereotypes about the non-religious. If you want to "avoid something you aren't ready for", don't make the choice to spread your legs and allow fertilization. People using birth control KNOW that it isn't 100% effective. If you REALLY despise the thought of having a child, either abstain from sex or be sterilized.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and again, abortion is not murder because nothing is yet a life. if you can't get that through tour thick fucking skull, then debating you is a waste of time
@travmanbw43 You don't think you're responsible enough to raise a child? Then you're not responsible enough to have sex. If you would hate to have a child THAT much, to the point you would kill it, then either don't have sex or get your tubes tied. And a woman shouldn't be so stupid as to have sex with a deadbeat who only wants to get off in her and then abandon her and the child.There is simply no excuse for a frivolous abortion when there are steps to take to prevent unwanted pregnancys
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and it isn't always about responsibility, some people just do not want kids, and birth control isn't always 100%. and i neversaid anything about killing the child. there is no murder involved here as it is not yet a born baby.and i can't get my tubes tied, so who is making themself look like an idiot. and newsflash, with or without abortion, people are gonna have sex and have unwanted pregnancies and men will abandon families. so why make a mother raise a child alone
@travmanbw43 when she may not even want it in the first place. it is her right to choose, just like it is your right to choose to be a fucking stupid idiot.
@travmanbw43 You can NOT seriously believe life suddenly begins after one has left the womb.I never told YOU to get your tubes tied, although there's no reason you couldnt. There can only be TWO people responsible for a mother raising a child alone- the father and the mother who chose to allow a deadbeat to plant his seed in her. No one "forced" that upon her. Shes responsible for her own actions.Women are not helpless children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions
@XxHarmonicNightsxX that is the definition of human life. once the baby has left the uterus and is pronounced born. and now that you mention force, what about rape? should the mother be forced to carry and raise the child along with her rapist? I suppose it's her fault for getting raped? i hope you say no. it is not murder to have an abortion. nothing is dying as the fetus was never born. you don't quite understand, without abortion,some women will still spread their legs to guys they shouldn't
@travmanbw43 You are clearly mentally ill. You think a baby is suddenly 'alive' when it leaves the womb? Location is what determines humanity? You should seriously be locked up in the nuthouse. The rape argument doesn't hold much water because most abortions are done out of convienence. Women will spread their legs to guys they shouldn't? And whose fault is that? I feel insulted as a female because you treat women like they are helpless children who have no understanding of their choices.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX so you never actually answered my question. should women who get pregnant from rape be denied an abortion? its a simple yes or no answer. and you should be locked up in prison for trying to deny people a basic human right to do with their baby as they please. i suppose you also think people shouldn't eat seeds because we are eating things that could possibly become living. and if you really feel insulted that i am for your right to choose as a woman. you are just plain stupid
@travmanbw43 and yes women will spread their legs to whomever they feel like. and i am not saying all women will, it is just some will. but why should you be allowed to force them into something they don't want, and that is raise a kid. and what if something was going to be wrong with the kid, like a congenital heart disease, should we force the kid to suffer through that. should we force the parents to raise a kid that's gonna die early in life. what if people can't afford the kid
@travmanbw43 and i have never treated women like they are helpless children, if i recall correctly, you are the one who said they will spread their legs to anybody. and women do have an understanding off their choices. like you, you choose to be a dumbass who can't let other people make their own decisions. and yes some women, and some men abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy, but that is a small population compared to the ones who don't abstain.
@travmanbw43 'People should do whatever they want with their baby'? Are you insane?! Women who willingly spread their legs are not 'forced' into anything. They got themselves impregnated and knew of the consequences. I'm not responsible for other women's pregnancies. If they don't want to raise a child, they could either keep their legs shut or get their tubes tied. Men and women who have no self-control are not victims of their circumstances and are no less helpless than other adults.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you just admitted that you are not responsible for other people's pregnancies, so why do you care if they are terminated. and i still don't get why you are saying i don't respect women. is it because i think they can think for themselves without government having to tell them what to do with their bodies. PEOPLE CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES, AND THEY DONT NEED YOU TO DO THAT.
@travmanbw43 Again, I'm not the type who only cares if my own children are murdered. A WOMAN GETS HERSELF PREGNANT. SHE DID THAT TO HER OWN BODY. THE GOVERNMENT TOOK NO PART IN IMPREGNATING HER. I swear you're borderline retarded. The government didn't tell the woman to go out and have sex and get pregnant.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you are retarded. a fetus is not life, and is therefore not murder. and like i have mentioned the other two times, the government can not intervene until the child is actually BORN. that is after BIRTH. then the govt. can intervene in instances of child abuse, which i believe is one of the few instances where i believe govt should have authority to intervene as force has been used upon another individual.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX cont: and you're right, in most cases the woman did get herself pregnant, and it is her body, which is why she has the freedom to decide the course of action that her pregnancy takes. a woman can make her own decisions regarding her body. i still don't get where you are getting murder from. obviously you have no biological background. as for the borderline retarded comment, WOW. all im gonna say is people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
@travmanbw43 No one should be able to decide when another person's life will end. And if you support that ideology, then you have no right to complain when a man abandons his pregnant girlfriend/wife. If it's perfectly moral for a woman to make the decision to opt out of motherhood by killing her child, then it's perfectly moral for a man to make the decision to opt out of fatherhood when his girlfriend decides not to get an abortion.
@travmanbw43 I think abortion due to rape would be acceptable. I've seen too many 11 and 12 year old girls who have been raped and impregnated. Your analogy of a seed and fetus is ridiculous. A seed would be equivelant to a sperm cell. You most certainly do talk about women as if they're too stupid and helpless to understand the consequences of their actions...hence you keep calling abortion a 'right' as if women had no say in the pregnancy.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX So abortion is okay if the woman is raped, but not if she chose to have sex? you're not about the right to life, you are about punishment for a person's actions. and the seed analogy is actually a good one as it is considered by botanists to be the embryo of a plant. all it need is proper nutrition. and i said women have a right to choose, and you said they shouldn't. i'm not disrespecting them, i am saying they are fully able to make their own decision without anyone else
@travmanbw43 Abortion is always murder, but sometimes things have to be done for the greater good. A child who gets pregnant from rape is a victim. A woman who gets pregnant from consensual sex is NOT in any way 'punished'. She did that to HERSELF. How stupid can you be not to understand that simple logic?
@travmanbw43 When did I ever say that I support rape? Nice try. Pregnancy is not in any way a punishment. Reproduction is a natural cycle of life that all species experience. Expecting a woman to behave like a responsible adult is not "punishment" and it would be insulting to treat her otherwise. Anyone who is not sterile that has consensual sex NEVER has a good reason to be shocked when a pregnancy occurs. Stop behaving like a whiny child when you get YOURSELF in a predicament.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX but with abortion being legal, you cut down the number of illegitimate children, abandoned children, children raised by single parents, etc. an abortion is not at all murder. i am assuming you are a man. so you actually believe you can tell a woman what she can and can't do with her own body. it is her right to choose what to do with a fetus inside of her. and you must live in a dream world if you actually think every person will abstain from sex just to avoid pregnancy
@travmanbw43 You are dead wrong. Abortion has been legal since the 70s and illegitimate children and single parent homes have SKYROCKETED since abortion was illegal before the 70s. Today, 4 in 10 children are born out of wedlock. If people can't control themselves, then that's THEIR fault, not the government's. I know TONS of young females who abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy. I know most males wouldn't, but it's more common with females.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX that argument fails on so many levels. you can't just say that abortion was legal in the 70s, illegitimate children skyrocketed, etc. you have to look at everything else that happened, like all the men who died during war and never came back home to pregnant significant others, the women's rights movements that fostered a more independant lifestyle for women. you look at everything too surface level. and abortions have been performed for thousands of years across the world
@travmanbw43 and in america, people were still getting abortions illegally. roe v wade just made it illegal for any state to outlaw abortion, this was aimed at states which had outlawed abortion. and going back alittle bit, you actually did say i can get my tubes tied. that's besides the point. the point is that you are a horrible person who wants to live everybody elses life for them if a woman wants to abort a pregnancy,that is her right and her choice, not yours to make.
@travmanbw43 if you dont like that women here can choose how their life goes then leave. i for one, respect women and i believe that if a woman makes a mistake & sleeps with an undesirable man who won't raise his kid she has the right to not have to raise it alone, and end it before it starts. and going back to your 70s example, if 4/10 of kids are born out of wedlock, do you really think that taking away one of the major options for preventing that is going to lower the number? That is moronic
No, you don't have respect for women. You look at them as helpless victims when they get THEMSELVES in an undesirable position. You talk down to them instead of treating them like the adults they are. Legalized abortion also reinforces men to have no obligation whatsoever to their family. If abortion is a WOMANS right, then when a woman chooses not to have an abortion, that was HER choice and not the man's, therefore the man can choose to opt out of responsibility since it wasnt his 'choice'.
@travmanbw43 "They're gonna do it anyway" is NEVER a legitimate excuse for legalizing something. You could say that about anything. Does that mean no laws should exist at all? YOU are the one who is a terrible, heartless, insane person. You try to dehumanize babies simply because deadbeat men and women want to indulge in promiscuity without having to deal with any consequences. You also type like a 12 year old.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX You could say that about anything. people are going to do things that you dont agree with legal or not. I have some very libertarian views. I believe the governmaent should have no say in what an individual does to his/her own body, that includes the right to abortion for women. but i apologize if my belief that a woman can think for herself and make her own life decision offends you. obviously as you said before i have no respect for women
@XxHarmonicNightsxX cont: and your were the one who said women can think for themselves and then made the generalization that they will open their legs to anybody just to clarify on MY apparent disrespect for women
@travmanbw43 A true libertarian would agree that government should not hold people's hands and provide handouts, but instead expect adults to be intelligent enough to understand the rammifications of their actions and deal with the consequences that they made for themselves. But, no you don't think adults are smart enough to understand that when they make a choice, there are consequences. They have to have the government provide the man-made operation of abortion for the irresponsible.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX i can't name a single government organization that provides abortion. please provide the name, because i don't think any exist. and i think many people are able to understand the consequences of their actions, one of those actions being abortion. i'm not saying abortion should be a method of birth control, but a backup plan in case the condom breaks or birth control fails. and what do you mean man-made operations? are there any other types?
@travmanbw43 There is absolutely NO excuse for abortion due to consensual sex. Everyone who's not a retard knows birth control can fail. If you would really hate to have a child THAT much, either abstain from sex or be sterilized. There's no reason abortion should exist in the first place. It's well-known that planned parenthood along with other abortion clinics ARE government funded. The point that it's man-made means that it's not by any means a natural right.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX i'm not even going to respond after this. there is no use in arguing with stupid fascists. yes, i said fascist because you want to control what other people do with their bodies. fetuses are not life. life would be able to exist outside the uterus, on its own. the only reason many prematures live is thanks to modern medicine. but thats man-made so i suppose your against that too. and the grasping of difficult subjects does require the intelligence you seem to lack
@travmanbw43 I never said I was against certain operations simply because they're man-made. I was pointing out your terribly flawed idea that abortion is a right. I can't take you seriously since you have no problem with fetuses, even up to the point where they can feel pain, having their neck snapped and their organs carved out. Liberalism is truly a mental illness.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX This is the absolute last response. Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in UK shows that fetuses can't feel before 24 weeks, and even live in sedation after that. Guttmacher Institute says only 1.1% of abortions are in week 21+ and you fail to realize that that is not the only method of abortion. there are 8 methods in total, which have been considered humane. I'm not saying abortion should be birth control, just a backup as accidents do happen.
@travmanbw43 I know all the methods of abortion. None of them are humane. You suggested that babies who are born premature aren't living. Therefore, you support abortion even when immense pain can be felt. It's never an 'accident' when a man ejaculates into a woman. You can't accidently have sex. There's no point in trying to debate with an overgrown child who has no concept of what it means to be a mature, responsible adult.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX Just when i think i'm done you make some shit up and i have to come back. I didn't say pre-mes aren't living. what i believe I said was premature babies would die without doctor intervention, but since you seem to be against man-made medicine, you would be against saving that life. and yes it is life as it has been born. sorry, i miswrote what i meant. once a fetus is out of the uterus, it would have potential to survive.
@travmanbw43 You stated that something is life only if it can surive outside the womb. You then said the only reason a lot of premature babies live outside the womb is because of modern medicine. I never said or even hinted that I was against modern medicine, you mentally incompetent imbecile. Now you're saying it's fine for fetuses of any age to be aborted if there is an anasthetic used? You're insane. You support senseless murder as long as it's "non-painful".
A couple that has sex using a condom is 100% aware that it can break. There is not any excuse for abortion due to consensual sex. There is no adult in their right mind that can play dumb when a pregnancy occurs when a condom was used. I've known women who've gotten pregnant when a condom AND the pill was used...yet they would never even consider an abortion and don't support it.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and i never said i was for painful abortions. I am sure any doctor would be fine with administering a local anasthetic, or even a general anasthetic to the fetus if requested. and what if the condom breaks. that is an accident. the couple was taking preventative measures, and it broke. that is what abortion should be used as. a back up. and your'e right, there is no point, yet for some reaon I just keep responding to you. probably b/c your stupidity and ignorance amuses me
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and with that connection you made about me being in support of painful abortions sure screams O'Reilly/Beck intelligence. I am surprised neither of them has hired you as a writer. that's it. no matterwhat you say, i am done.
@travmanbw43 You have terrible reasoning skills as well as a lack of reading comprehension skills. YOU are the one who looks at everything on surface level. You pointed at abortion being criminalized as a direct reason for illegitimate children. I pointed out how that's obviously not a factor since out of wedlock children rates have skyrocketed since abortion was legalized.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX legalization of abortion has nothing to do with illegitimate children numbers rising. let me see if i can word this in a way you can understand. if you made abortion illegal, people, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, in this day and age will have sex and some men wont care about the consequences and leave a woman to raise a child alone. however, with legal abortions, women dont have to suffer through that, and can end a pregnancy. that is one less future iligitimate child
@XxHarmonicNightsxXas for the comment on my reasoning skills that was a stupid statement on your part. you are the one who simply looks at any statistic and automatically says its true so you bring it here. i can find/conduct any survey & show that all people who support abortion are women, or only white people support abortion. i dont know who conducted those studies of yours, but i can find 20 others by probably more reputable sources that contradict that
@travmanbw43 Women rely on the govt. to provide abortions, anyway. So a society without legalized abortion= no govt. involved in pregnancies, legalized abortions= govt. providing abortions for deadbeat women who can't act like an adult and take responsibility for their actions. Your 'libertarian' view is completely illogical and has nothing to do with wanting less govt.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX it's either the dream world scenario or you're still a virgin, because let's face it, anybody who has had sex once is not gonna say "well shit, i am never gonna do that again. that was awful. plus i don't wanna have a kid" or well that was nice and all but i won't be doing that anytime again soon because i don't want a kid." but i will give you the benefit and say you just live in a dream world
@travmanbw43 You dont seem to understand that when you make a choice, there are consequences. When are you gonna grow up and stop acting like a child? It's YOU who can't seem to face reality. Also, you are very misinformed.There are more pro-choice men than women. Thats an indication of the true purpose people are "pro-choice". Men are more promiscuous than women and therefore, don't want to face the consequences of their actions. And only about 22% of women who have abortions are non-religious
@XxHarmonicNightsxX gonna talk like this now 2 save time. yes there r consequences, but it is not ur rite or job to force people into them. it is their rite 2 privacy to hav an abortion, not ur rite to hav things the way u want it.and how do u know that number of prochoice men. u cant provide a study cuz #s r so easy to fix & manipulate. and if more men r more prochoice than women which i highly doubt, maybe its cuz they believe in the right to choice and privacy
@travmanbw43 and that whole promiscuity comment is a huge error. it is definately equal. i know plenty of girls who are sluts, and plenty of men who r manwhores. its actually pretty equal. and u also seem to fail to realize that humans r naturally a very sexual being. in other words, humans will have sex, and lots of it. and who said anything about facing consequences, i cant force a woman to get an abortion any more than i can force actual logic into u. it just doesnt work.
@travmanbw43 lastly, where does the whole nonreligious 22% thing come in. it doesnt matter who does it, its every womans rite. and u may be a non-religous woman, but u sound like the most overly conservative christian i hav ever met. and u seem 2 b pulling these numbers out ur ass. and if thats an aim at my faith it totally fails. i am an atheist through and through. i am wat dawkins would call a level 7 atheist.i absolutely know there is no god. the point is, that number does not matter here
@travmanbw43 Yes, humans are sexual beings, but they are also able to reason, use logic, and make healthy choices. You accused me of being religious because I'm pro-life, while most women who have abortions ARE religious. Society would be much better without you neurotic, mindless anti-intellectual libtards.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX anti-intellectual libtards? do you have a college education (and i mean in a real degree that is useful) I am getting a B.S. in microcellular biology and genetics with minors in chemistry and math. how is that for anti-intellectual you backwards, thoughtless, right wing, whacko replublican. and you don't seem to realize that i know women can think for themselves. if they don't want an abortion, they won't get one, if they want one, it's their choice
I am currently in college & the fact that you think college=intellectual speaks volumes. Education has been severely dumbed down & is just a large indoctrination machine. Hardly has anything to do with intelligence. With abortion being legal,women have the option to opt out of motherhood, so the men take it upon themselves that they have the option to opt out as well. Sex=reproduction. It's as simple as that & shouldnt even be an issue.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX I don't think college means intellectual, but in my field of study, if one is unintelligent, that person won't last long. but there are fields of study i can name that require almost no advanced logic like music, art, and humanities, and history and philosophy are simply about memorization. thats why i asked if you had a useful degree instead of any degree.
@travmanbw43 The ability to learn even the most difficult subjects does not correlate with intellectualism or even intelligence. Just look at yourself for example...you can't even use the most basic rationale or logic. Most pro-choicers won't even deny that a fetus is a life- they just deny they're a "human" life.
@travmanbw43 Go reasearch studies on pro-choicers. I also personally know way more pro-choice men than women. Most of them blatantly state that they want to have sex without having to deal with a child. The females tend to value life more. How stupid can you be to deny that men are more promiscuous than women? The sexual pursuit are of the brain is 2.5 times larger in the male than in the female. But I'm sure you have the "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind's made up!" mentality.
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you obviously have not the slightest understanding of numbers/statistics. you can make polls to say whatever you want. And outlawing abortion still wont stop people from having sex, and still won't stop men from leaving pregnant women behind. and there is no arguing about the brain size in area of sexual pursuit, that is biological fact. but all of your arguments that illegalizing abortion more men are in favor of abortion than women are either speculative or wrong
@travmanbw43 Be realistic here, the large majority of young men will have sex at every oppurtunity. You're right that if abortion was suddenly illegalized today,there would hardly be a change in men abandoning families and such.The damage has been done. Abortion should have never been legalized in the first place. It has severely screwed up the mentality of both men and women. I'd bet if you just got a random group of people from anywhere, the men favoring abortion would be more than the females
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and actually, abortion was legal in at least 10 states prior to roe v wade, that case wasn't even really about abortion so much as privacy, and it made it illegal for any person or govt. intervene in an abortion on the grounds of a right to privacy
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and the whole don't confuse me with facts, what facts. you have only used one fact in your whole tirade and i already knew that one (the brain). throwing random nubers are not facts. and just because a few people you know say they are pro-choice so they dont have to raise a child doesn't mean that is how all men feel, and it doesnt mean an impregnanted woman has to get an abortion. no you seem to be saying all men are pigs who only want sex
The world hates TRUE Christians... "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake" (Matthew 24:9).
Proverb 29:27, "An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked." This Scripture says it all. The wicked and the righteous will never get along in sweet harmony.
Well darn!...I mean I dont want them dead! I just want them to shut the EFF UP!...Their CRAZY! & have been brainwashed almost amonst any chance of being brought back to reality!...trying to talk to them is like trying to talk to a tree! their so set in there ways its sad!...I honestly feel sorry for them!...I ean what kind of parent raises their children with sooooo much hate?! it horrible! luckily they said they would only marry in their church & sense their all family..hopefully..
...they will eventually die out in time unless someone gets brainwashed enough by this hateful bull their screaming to get sucked in & they can start a whole nother generation then were all screwed over yet again!...but I seriously doubt someone will! they are so crazy & hateful no one in their right mine will go for it & they even said themselves in many interviees that they will not marry someone outside of their SICK CULT of a "Church" so I dont see this lasting through the years!
Wow, you are an angry one,or should I say, very religious of you. Well,if you would like to whip the fuck out of me truly, I would say good luck, i'm sure you don't want to come to Japan to do so. I'll be hanging out in Tokyo for the next year, come have some sake and relax.
@DanteLacey21 So you've read some verses, you should know then that there is Love & Hate from God, look at Esau. When you say that God doesn't hate your incorrect, according to the Bible. Yes God does love, no question
The girl in this video is Sara Phelps. She is clearly telling you the standards of God, and she's not losing her temper in the process. Anyone who says these people should be killed are much worse than the people who are giving you some WORDS that you don't happen to agree with.
If you want to contend with them, don't be violent against them. Just give them some WORDS of your own.
If you happen to come this group, just be quiet, and give them a big smile. Forget about your sin, give these guys a grin. Always look on the bright side of life.
this bitch is sick and twistedn in the head and she needs to be shot so her brains will splatter over the churchaltar next service. Let's drink on that one.
No thank you I rather piss and take a shit on her while she dies in tremendous pain
when she is dead finally her craphole will be stuffed with a rethot crucifix and we burrie you unside down with your feet outside your grave so that the dogs have a christian snack at night.
Um...I heartily disagree with their ideology myself but this is really over the top and in my opinion, not much different than the rage they are preaching.
Satan's army spawned by the antichrist Freddy Phelps. He sold his soul to the devil long ago. Look at his words for all to see, straight from Satan to Freddy's signs.
Lakersalex, belief in God in not irrational, how THESE FOOLS are making Him look is irrational. I'm a Christian and I go to church. What you see here is a CULT. They're taking the same Bible I read and twisting it to back up their own hatred, thus making a God to suit themselves, gee, a big no no in the Ten Commandments. I don't know how they go day after day, not winning one soul over with their crap, and STILL they go out and do it again! FOOLS!
So many Christians have tried to talk to these people and they just don't listen! Like I said, they're a cult. Unfortunately it's like trying to talk to a Jehovah's Witness, who are very nice people, unlike these hateful tools. These people just talk over you and won't let you get a word in edge wise. God will have His way, time will be the perfect vengence.
MattHatter you are full of it - WBC is no more a "cult" than your so-called "church" Their religion is exactly the same as the original American Baptists and Presbyterians. WBC just never changed with the times like you did.
I bet the members of WBC know the Bible and the Christian religion more than you or you pastor.
And what are YOUR beliefs? Tell me a little about yourself and where YOU stand in your belief syste, before you go spouting off! Well....let's hear it!
MattHatter, stop pretending to be a Christian, I doubt you've even read the Bible, much less studied it. You go to church for social reasons and your wife makes you.
And stop pretending that YOU know jack! You're ranting, I specifically asked you to back up your statement and you haven't done it. So I'll assume this is a joke just to make me mad, huh? So unless you are going to back up your statements with some theology, I'd rather not waste my time!
"how THESE FOOLS are making Him look is irrational. I'm a Christian and I go to church." MattHatter
"I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:22
Well you're doing a great job of pointing out all my wrongs, that's the easy part. You still have not answered me on where you stand from a theological viewpoint. You also did not answer my other question about who do you love and WHAT do you hate...I said WHAT...not WHO. The Bible also says be "swift to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." Which you did NONE OF! .
Yes and it also says treat all crimes as equal and to stone anyone who DOES commit ANY crime to DEATH!!! THEN it says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you! I mean COME ON!!! The bible is full of self-contradictions, and moreover, proof against the reality of its own stories! Read the bible and think LOGICALLY about it as you read, and you will see why it's so hard to believe! That, or stop forcing it down others' throats!
Are you talking to me or that other Bible thumping nutcase that was attacking me on here? If you don't believe the Bible is 100% spiritually accurate, that's one thing, but it IS 100% historically accurate, ask ANY licensed archeologist and they'll tell you. I'm not shoving ANYTHING down people's throats, people just get annoyed when you do that. But Westboro loves to ANNOY people and think they're getting people to "repent" of their sins by being loudmouths!
Sorry...talking to the other guy, but to make a point, my aunt IS a licensed archaeologist, and it's not really 100% accurate...For one, there is only a little evidence to support the "great flood" and that is just some flood that happened in Egypt(or nearby I can't remember the name of the country for certain, but still). It DID carry a boat to a hilltop, but that's it! Also, there is no WAY two of all the animals in the world were within walking distance! There's ALOT more, but no room here.
And furthermore, they think they're earning "brownie points" for heaven by being the way they are. They get off on it! You can't reason with these people! I'd like to meet ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL who came to know Jesus by means of these people. Do you ever see or hear anyone interviewed who says, "Yeah, the Westboro Babtist Church really showed me the error of my ways and now I'm saved by the Blood of Christ." Do you hear of people changing their ways at Billy Graham crusades? Yes.
I love the way they screech about modesty and get around showing off their bare legs:)
Quatorzel4 1 month ago
I want to get this whole family high. If that doesn't do anything to them we need to forcibly slam all of them with heroine, maybe some acid, coke, ecstasy, etc...
what I'm trying to say is they all need to do lots of drugs. Now, I know myself and I function just fine with no drugs but this whole family needs a perception change.
froyboy4life 4 months ago
Twisted but HOT!
HepburnFlicks 5 months ago
Westboro Baptist Church preaches the truth!
PlanetaryHealer 6 months ago
@PlanetaryHealer I hope youre trolling >.<
wolfdevon 5 months ago
I love to rape her
maddoxhell 6 months ago
@RanMatFri Nah, they would try to bite if off since they're the demons trying to pass others off as demons.
SkittlesTheLucario 7 months ago
@RanMatFri That's all they're good for. lol They can't possibly have a nice personality.
SkittlesTheLucario 7 months ago
If I ever see you people in my neighborhood im gonna fight you all. Old people, kids, women- whoever is holding those signs. -
damionlovessandy 10 months ago
@damionlovessandy That's what they want. That is how they make their money. They insite you then sue you and the town.
ETericET 8 months ago
What question were they asked?
billydeeuk 1 year ago
can those shorts get any tighter. ugh god they are tempting men. is that not a sin
dddoscar 1 year ago
The children of Westboro "church" are not home-schooled. They go to public school. All of their parents must work in order to pay for their picketing excurisons. Get your facts right and stop slandering people.
SecondLaw1 1 year ago
@SecondLaw1 yeah dont slander the people who claim we will eat our babies. but ur rite about the schooling. they also have to hold down a job and r forced to turn over 10% of their pay to the church. sounds like a cult. there r a few other very corrupt and controversial ways which they get money
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 It's been a while, but I thought I'd reply anyway. I was talking about slandering homeschoolers by claiming that these jerks are part of that group.
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We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. He has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother. 1 John 19-21
peterpatriotpal 1 year ago
I don't give a shit what the fucking Bible says, it's just a damn old book for crying out loud! Give this shit a rest already! Why is it that Bible Thumpers are always hateful homophobes?
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot Hold on to that thought. I'll make your question my own, and ask as you ask: why IS it that so-called "Bible Thumpers" are ALWAYS "hateful homophobes?" Have you never considered that it may be because they actually READ the Bible (instead of simply swallowing the distorted interpretations made by libtard theologians), and simply come to realize that the Bible DOES condemn this vile sin and act accordingly?
ItIsNotOkayToBeGay 1 year ago
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay and wearing clothes of two different fabrics and planting two crops in one field. seems you bible thumpers tend to overlook those because it isn't as appealing as hot gay man on man sex right punkin? and there is a world of difference between reading and understanding which you prove with every post. love is more fun than hate sweetie - you should try it sometime and understand what your savior was talking about. or did you "READ" that part too?
thegayprovocateur 1 year ago
@thegayprovocateur Hey have you ever noticed that when you try to talk to a homophobe about gay rights they just want to talk about gay men having sex? If it's such a "sin" then why are they all obsessed with it? Me thinks perhaps they protest to much to hide what they don't want to acknowledge about themselves. Homophobia is truly a pathetic thing.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot @ItIsNotOkayToBeGay - indeed - and studies show that those who are homophobic are more "anatomically responsive" to gay porn. in other words they have attraction for the same sex that they don't want to acknowledge - become self-loathing - and project their hate of themselves toward others. i agree - it truly is a pathetic and unfortunately sad situation for them.
thegayprovocateur 1 year ago
@thegayprovocateur Yes there have indeed been studies on homophobic men who responded to gay porn with sexual arousal, they denied being aroused but the results showed they had been sexually aroused by 2 men having sex. If society could just become a little more tolerant of homosexuality it wouldn't be such a big deal anymore. I find it very sad that people are so afraid of love when it's the most wonderful emotion a person can feel.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay Do you honestly think that the bullshit fairy tales of the Bible are REAL? It was written during a time when people were convinced that the flat earth stood still at the center of the universe!
Poochalot 1 year ago
@ItIsNotOkayToBeGay and what makes the bible such a great authority. and please dont say cuz its gods and he even says it in the bible. that circular logic will get u nowhere. wat makes the bible so great. i hate 2 b the 1 to tell u but the bible was written by a few men who wanted to control the world. its a marketing scheme. if ur gonna follow the bible u might as well live by the laws of harry potter. gay people r born that way. u dont have to accept it and thats okay, but dont spread ur hate
travmanbw43 1 year ago
I'm not a supporter of these people or anything but get your facts straight, the children arnt home school each if them have gone through the public school system, they are just preached these things from the adults around them.
irishpirate87 1 year ago
OMFG IF I EVER go to one of these fuckers rallys im going to crank hitlers last braudcast. HAHAHA
zjbeast 1 year ago
Wow, as much as i fucking hate these people, If your going to drive up and insult them, make it good, don't embarrass yourself.
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it's too bad some of them look like people you'd want to fuck cause...you know... no abortions.
lancelottodd 1 year ago 4
@lancelottodd LMFAO!!! Genius, pure genius
FoxD89 1 year ago
@lancelottodd Your comment speaks volumes on the sickening mindset of abortionists. The world would be a better place without people like you.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX yes i can see a world without people who believe in the right to choice and privacy. ahh its magnificent. even more illegitimate children. mothers abandoning kids they cant afford. kids going hungry as the parents work 3 jobs each to keep food on the table. i love the sound of that
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Here's a wild idea...why don't you actually hold all the irresponsible deadbeats responsible for THEIR OWN actions? Illegitimate children are the fault of their PARENTS. And as you can see from the sickening comment I originally responded to, pro-choicers merely want to avoid any responsibility of their actions. They are narcissists who have no regard for human life. A society of legal abortion only reinforces the irresponsible behavior and disregard for raising children.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX here's an even crazier idea. why don't you live your life, and allow other people to live their life. somebody else getting an abortion has no affect on you. the amount of illegitamate children would only rise without abortion you moronic, overly religious, bible thumping fool, do to the fact that more men would leave as they don't want to deal with kids, and that many more children would also go hungry. why should a person be forced to have a kid they do not want.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 if abortions were illegal, the population crisis would be even worse, the number of illegitimate children would be higher, as would the amount of kids in foster care, amount of abandoned kids, as well as kids not even being raised because the parents will be off working to make ends meet. this could even raise crime, drug, and gang rates. but lets outlaw abortion just because your fictional book says its bad
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Guess what? I'm not a narcissist who ignores the evils of the world and only worries about what directly affects me. Where did you get the idea that I was religious? I'm agnostic. Good job making yourself look like an idiot. Abortion only contributes to the decline of the western world you naive fool. An abortion-supporting culture only creates more illegitimate children because it helps form the entitled, irresponsible, anti-family, anti-life mindset that is so common today.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you sure seem religious. and guess what, abortion is legal in most of the western world, and there are still people that cheat, divorce, abandon kids in dumpsters, and again they have the choice to end the pregnancy. but they dont, and still bad things happen. abortion is not an evil. it's a simple option to avoid something you aren't ready for, like raising another life.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 I must be religious because I don't condone murder? It's people like you that only reinforce the negative stereotypes about the non-religious. If you want to "avoid something you aren't ready for", don't make the choice to spread your legs and allow fertilization. People using birth control KNOW that it isn't 100% effective. If you REALLY despise the thought of having a child, either abstain from sex or be sterilized.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and again, abortion is not murder because nothing is yet a life. if you can't get that through tour thick fucking skull, then debating you is a waste of time
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 You don't think you're responsible enough to raise a child? Then you're not responsible enough to have sex. If you would hate to have a child THAT much, to the point you would kill it, then either don't have sex or get your tubes tied. And a woman shouldn't be so stupid as to have sex with a deadbeat who only wants to get off in her and then abandon her and the child.There is simply no excuse for a frivolous abortion when there are steps to take to prevent unwanted pregnancys
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and it isn't always about responsibility, some people just do not want kids, and birth control isn't always 100%. and i neversaid anything about killing the child. there is no murder involved here as it is not yet a born baby.and i can't get my tubes tied, so who is making themself look like an idiot. and newsflash, with or without abortion, people are gonna have sex and have unwanted pregnancies and men will abandon families. so why make a mother raise a child alone
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 when she may not even want it in the first place. it is her right to choose, just like it is your right to choose to be a fucking stupid idiot.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 It was her right to keep her legs shut or take steps to prevent a pregnancy. There's also this little thing called the right to life.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 You can NOT seriously believe life suddenly begins after one has left the womb.I never told YOU to get your tubes tied, although there's no reason you couldnt. There can only be TWO people responsible for a mother raising a child alone- the father and the mother who chose to allow a deadbeat to plant his seed in her. No one "forced" that upon her. Shes responsible for her own actions.Women are not helpless children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX that is the definition of human life. once the baby has left the uterus and is pronounced born. and now that you mention force, what about rape? should the mother be forced to carry and raise the child along with her rapist? I suppose it's her fault for getting raped? i hope you say no. it is not murder to have an abortion. nothing is dying as the fetus was never born. you don't quite understand, without abortion,some women will still spread their legs to guys they shouldn't
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 You are clearly mentally ill. You think a baby is suddenly 'alive' when it leaves the womb? Location is what determines humanity? You should seriously be locked up in the nuthouse. The rape argument doesn't hold much water because most abortions are done out of convienence. Women will spread their legs to guys they shouldn't? And whose fault is that? I feel insulted as a female because you treat women like they are helpless children who have no understanding of their choices.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX so you never actually answered my question. should women who get pregnant from rape be denied an abortion? its a simple yes or no answer. and you should be locked up in prison for trying to deny people a basic human right to do with their baby as they please. i suppose you also think people shouldn't eat seeds because we are eating things that could possibly become living. and if you really feel insulted that i am for your right to choose as a woman. you are just plain stupid
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 and yes women will spread their legs to whomever they feel like. and i am not saying all women will, it is just some will. but why should you be allowed to force them into something they don't want, and that is raise a kid. and what if something was going to be wrong with the kid, like a congenital heart disease, should we force the kid to suffer through that. should we force the parents to raise a kid that's gonna die early in life. what if people can't afford the kid
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 and i have never treated women like they are helpless children, if i recall correctly, you are the one who said they will spread their legs to anybody. and women do have an understanding off their choices. like you, you choose to be a dumbass who can't let other people make their own decisions. and yes some women, and some men abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy, but that is a small population compared to the ones who don't abstain.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 'People should do whatever they want with their baby'? Are you insane?! Women who willingly spread their legs are not 'forced' into anything. They got themselves impregnated and knew of the consequences. I'm not responsible for other women's pregnancies. If they don't want to raise a child, they could either keep their legs shut or get their tubes tied. Men and women who have no self-control are not victims of their circumstances and are no less helpless than other adults.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you just admitted that you are not responsible for other people's pregnancies, so why do you care if they are terminated. and i still don't get why you are saying i don't respect women. is it because i think they can think for themselves without government having to tell them what to do with their bodies. PEOPLE CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES, AND THEY DONT NEED YOU TO DO THAT.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Again, I'm not the type who only cares if my own children are murdered. A WOMAN GETS HERSELF PREGNANT. SHE DID THAT TO HER OWN BODY. THE GOVERNMENT TOOK NO PART IN IMPREGNATING HER. I swear you're borderline retarded. The government didn't tell the woman to go out and have sex and get pregnant.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you are retarded. a fetus is not life, and is therefore not murder. and like i have mentioned the other two times, the government can not intervene until the child is actually BORN. that is after BIRTH. then the govt. can intervene in instances of child abuse, which i believe is one of the few instances where i believe govt should have authority to intervene as force has been used upon another individual.
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX cont: and you're right, in most cases the woman did get herself pregnant, and it is her body, which is why she has the freedom to decide the course of action that her pregnancy takes. a woman can make her own decisions regarding her body. i still don't get where you are getting murder from. obviously you have no biological background. as for the borderline retarded comment, WOW. all im gonna say is people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 No one should be able to decide when another person's life will end. And if you support that ideology, then you have no right to complain when a man abandons his pregnant girlfriend/wife. If it's perfectly moral for a woman to make the decision to opt out of motherhood by killing her child, then it's perfectly moral for a man to make the decision to opt out of fatherhood when his girlfriend decides not to get an abortion.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 I think abortion due to rape would be acceptable. I've seen too many 11 and 12 year old girls who have been raped and impregnated. Your analogy of a seed and fetus is ridiculous. A seed would be equivelant to a sperm cell. You most certainly do talk about women as if they're too stupid and helpless to understand the consequences of their actions...hence you keep calling abortion a 'right' as if women had no say in the pregnancy.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX So abortion is okay if the woman is raped, but not if she chose to have sex? you're not about the right to life, you are about punishment for a person's actions. and the seed analogy is actually a good one as it is considered by botanists to be the embryo of a plant. all it need is proper nutrition. and i said women have a right to choose, and you said they shouldn't. i'm not disrespecting them, i am saying they are fully able to make their own decision without anyone else
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Abortion is always murder, but sometimes things have to be done for the greater good. A child who gets pregnant from rape is a victim. A woman who gets pregnant from consensual sex is NOT in any way 'punished'. She did that to HERSELF. How stupid can you be not to understand that simple logic?
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you aren't about prolife. if you were, you would be against rape period. youjust want people to be punished for their actions.
travmanbw43 11 months ago
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@travmanbw43 When did I ever say that I support rape? Nice try. Pregnancy is not in any way a punishment. Reproduction is a natural cycle of life that all species experience. Expecting a woman to behave like a responsible adult is not "punishment" and it would be insulting to treat her otherwise. Anyone who is not sterile that has consensual sex NEVER has a good reason to be shocked when a pregnancy occurs. Stop behaving like a whiny child when you get YOURSELF in a predicament.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX but with abortion being legal, you cut down the number of illegitimate children, abandoned children, children raised by single parents, etc. an abortion is not at all murder. i am assuming you are a man. so you actually believe you can tell a woman what she can and can't do with her own body. it is her right to choose what to do with a fetus inside of her. and you must live in a dream world if you actually think every person will abstain from sex just to avoid pregnancy
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 You are dead wrong. Abortion has been legal since the 70s and illegitimate children and single parent homes have SKYROCKETED since abortion was illegal before the 70s. Today, 4 in 10 children are born out of wedlock. If people can't control themselves, then that's THEIR fault, not the government's. I know TONS of young females who abstain from sex to avoid pregnancy. I know most males wouldn't, but it's more common with females.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX that argument fails on so many levels. you can't just say that abortion was legal in the 70s, illegitimate children skyrocketed, etc. you have to look at everything else that happened, like all the men who died during war and never came back home to pregnant significant others, the women's rights movements that fostered a more independant lifestyle for women. you look at everything too surface level. and abortions have been performed for thousands of years across the world
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 and in america, people were still getting abortions illegally. roe v wade just made it illegal for any state to outlaw abortion, this was aimed at states which had outlawed abortion. and going back alittle bit, you actually did say i can get my tubes tied. that's besides the point. the point is that you are a horrible person who wants to live everybody elses life for them if a woman wants to abort a pregnancy,that is her right and her choice, not yours to make.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 if you dont like that women here can choose how their life goes then leave. i for one, respect women and i believe that if a woman makes a mistake & sleeps with an undesirable man who won't raise his kid she has the right to not have to raise it alone, and end it before it starts. and going back to your 70s example, if 4/10 of kids are born out of wedlock, do you really think that taking away one of the major options for preventing that is going to lower the number? That is moronic
travmanbw43 1 year ago
No, you don't have respect for women. You look at them as helpless victims when they get THEMSELVES in an undesirable position. You talk down to them instead of treating them like the adults they are. Legalized abortion also reinforces men to have no obligation whatsoever to their family. If abortion is a WOMANS right, then when a woman chooses not to have an abortion, that was HER choice and not the man's, therefore the man can choose to opt out of responsibility since it wasnt his 'choice'.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 "They're gonna do it anyway" is NEVER a legitimate excuse for legalizing something. You could say that about anything. Does that mean no laws should exist at all? YOU are the one who is a terrible, heartless, insane person. You try to dehumanize babies simply because deadbeat men and women want to indulge in promiscuity without having to deal with any consequences. You also type like a 12 year old.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX You could say that about anything. people are going to do things that you dont agree with legal or not. I have some very libertarian views. I believe the governmaent should have no say in what an individual does to his/her own body, that includes the right to abortion for women. but i apologize if my belief that a woman can think for herself and make her own life decision offends you. obviously as you said before i have no respect for women
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX cont: and your were the one who said women can think for themselves and then made the generalization that they will open their legs to anybody just to clarify on MY apparent disrespect for women
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 A true libertarian would agree that government should not hold people's hands and provide handouts, but instead expect adults to be intelligent enough to understand the rammifications of their actions and deal with the consequences that they made for themselves. But, no you don't think adults are smart enough to understand that when they make a choice, there are consequences. They have to have the government provide the man-made operation of abortion for the irresponsible.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX i can't name a single government organization that provides abortion. please provide the name, because i don't think any exist. and i think many people are able to understand the consequences of their actions, one of those actions being abortion. i'm not saying abortion should be a method of birth control, but a backup plan in case the condom breaks or birth control fails. and what do you mean man-made operations? are there any other types?
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 There is absolutely NO excuse for abortion due to consensual sex. Everyone who's not a retard knows birth control can fail. If you would really hate to have a child THAT much, either abstain from sex or be sterilized. There's no reason abortion should exist in the first place. It's well-known that planned parenthood along with other abortion clinics ARE government funded. The point that it's man-made means that it's not by any means a natural right.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX i'm not even going to respond after this. there is no use in arguing with stupid fascists. yes, i said fascist because you want to control what other people do with their bodies. fetuses are not life. life would be able to exist outside the uterus, on its own. the only reason many prematures live is thanks to modern medicine. but thats man-made so i suppose your against that too. and the grasping of difficult subjects does require the intelligence you seem to lack
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 I never said I was against certain operations simply because they're man-made. I was pointing out your terribly flawed idea that abortion is a right. I can't take you seriously since you have no problem with fetuses, even up to the point where they can feel pain, having their neck snapped and their organs carved out. Liberalism is truly a mental illness.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 10 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX This is the absolute last response. Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in UK shows that fetuses can't feel before 24 weeks, and even live in sedation after that. Guttmacher Institute says only 1.1% of abortions are in week 21+ and you fail to realize that that is not the only method of abortion. there are 8 methods in total, which have been considered humane. I'm not saying abortion should be birth control, just a backup as accidents do happen.
travmanbw43 10 months ago
@travmanbw43 I know all the methods of abortion. None of them are humane. You suggested that babies who are born premature aren't living. Therefore, you support abortion even when immense pain can be felt. It's never an 'accident' when a man ejaculates into a woman. You can't accidently have sex. There's no point in trying to debate with an overgrown child who has no concept of what it means to be a mature, responsible adult.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 10 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX Just when i think i'm done you make some shit up and i have to come back. I didn't say pre-mes aren't living. what i believe I said was premature babies would die without doctor intervention, but since you seem to be against man-made medicine, you would be against saving that life. and yes it is life as it has been born. sorry, i miswrote what i meant. once a fetus is out of the uterus, it would have potential to survive.
travmanbw43 10 months ago
@travmanbw43 You stated that something is life only if it can surive outside the womb. You then said the only reason a lot of premature babies live outside the womb is because of modern medicine. I never said or even hinted that I was against modern medicine, you mentally incompetent imbecile. Now you're saying it's fine for fetuses of any age to be aborted if there is an anasthetic used? You're insane. You support senseless murder as long as it's "non-painful".
XxHarmonicNightsxX 9 months ago
A couple that has sex using a condom is 100% aware that it can break. There is not any excuse for abortion due to consensual sex. There is no adult in their right mind that can play dumb when a pregnancy occurs when a condom was used. I've known women who've gotten pregnant when a condom AND the pill was used...yet they would never even consider an abortion and don't support it.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 9 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and i never said i was for painful abortions. I am sure any doctor would be fine with administering a local anasthetic, or even a general anasthetic to the fetus if requested. and what if the condom breaks. that is an accident. the couple was taking preventative measures, and it broke. that is what abortion should be used as. a back up. and your'e right, there is no point, yet for some reaon I just keep responding to you. probably b/c your stupidity and ignorance amuses me
travmanbw43 10 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and with that connection you made about me being in support of painful abortions sure screams O'Reilly/Beck intelligence. I am surprised neither of them has hired you as a writer. that's it. no matterwhat you say, i am done.
travmanbw43 10 months ago
@travmanbw43 You have terrible reasoning skills as well as a lack of reading comprehension skills. YOU are the one who looks at everything on surface level. You pointed at abortion being criminalized as a direct reason for illegitimate children. I pointed out how that's obviously not a factor since out of wedlock children rates have skyrocketed since abortion was legalized.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX legalization of abortion has nothing to do with illegitimate children numbers rising. let me see if i can word this in a way you can understand. if you made abortion illegal, people, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, in this day and age will have sex and some men wont care about the consequences and leave a woman to raise a child alone. however, with legal abortions, women dont have to suffer through that, and can end a pregnancy. that is one less future iligitimate child
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxXas for the comment on my reasoning skills that was a stupid statement on your part. you are the one who simply looks at any statistic and automatically says its true so you bring it here. i can find/conduct any survey & show that all people who support abortion are women, or only white people support abortion. i dont know who conducted those studies of yours, but i can find 20 others by probably more reputable sources that contradict that
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Women rely on the govt. to provide abortions, anyway. So a society without legalized abortion= no govt. involved in pregnancies, legalized abortions= govt. providing abortions for deadbeat women who can't act like an adult and take responsibility for their actions. Your 'libertarian' view is completely illogical and has nothing to do with wanting less govt.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX where are you getting the idea that the government provides abortions? there is not one that i can think of that does that.
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX it's either the dream world scenario or you're still a virgin, because let's face it, anybody who has had sex once is not gonna say "well shit, i am never gonna do that again. that was awful. plus i don't wanna have a kid" or well that was nice and all but i won't be doing that anytime again soon because i don't want a kid." but i will give you the benefit and say you just live in a dream world
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 You dont seem to understand that when you make a choice, there are consequences. When are you gonna grow up and stop acting like a child? It's YOU who can't seem to face reality. Also, you are very misinformed.There are more pro-choice men than women. Thats an indication of the true purpose people are "pro-choice". Men are more promiscuous than women and therefore, don't want to face the consequences of their actions. And only about 22% of women who have abortions are non-religious
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX gonna talk like this now 2 save time. yes there r consequences, but it is not ur rite or job to force people into them. it is their rite 2 privacy to hav an abortion, not ur rite to hav things the way u want it.and how do u know that number of prochoice men. u cant provide a study cuz #s r so easy to fix & manipulate. and if more men r more prochoice than women which i highly doubt, maybe its cuz they believe in the right to choice and privacy
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 and that whole promiscuity comment is a huge error. it is definately equal. i know plenty of girls who are sluts, and plenty of men who r manwhores. its actually pretty equal. and u also seem to fail to realize that humans r naturally a very sexual being. in other words, humans will have sex, and lots of it. and who said anything about facing consequences, i cant force a woman to get an abortion any more than i can force actual logic into u. it just doesnt work.
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 lastly, where does the whole nonreligious 22% thing come in. it doesnt matter who does it, its every womans rite. and u may be a non-religous woman, but u sound like the most overly conservative christian i hav ever met. and u seem 2 b pulling these numbers out ur ass. and if thats an aim at my faith it totally fails. i am an atheist through and through. i am wat dawkins would call a level 7 atheist.i absolutely know there is no god. the point is, that number does not matter here
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Yes, humans are sexual beings, but they are also able to reason, use logic, and make healthy choices. You accused me of being religious because I'm pro-life, while most women who have abortions ARE religious. Society would be much better without you neurotic, mindless anti-intellectual libtards.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX anti-intellectual libtards? do you have a college education (and i mean in a real degree that is useful) I am getting a B.S. in microcellular biology and genetics with minors in chemistry and math. how is that for anti-intellectual you backwards, thoughtless, right wing, whacko replublican. and you don't seem to realize that i know women can think for themselves. if they don't want an abortion, they won't get one, if they want one, it's their choice
travmanbw43 1 year ago
I am currently in college & the fact that you think college=intellectual speaks volumes. Education has been severely dumbed down & is just a large indoctrination machine. Hardly has anything to do with intelligence. With abortion being legal,women have the option to opt out of motherhood, so the men take it upon themselves that they have the option to opt out as well. Sex=reproduction. It's as simple as that & shouldnt even be an issue.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX I don't think college means intellectual, but in my field of study, if one is unintelligent, that person won't last long. but there are fields of study i can name that require almost no advanced logic like music, art, and humanities, and history and philosophy are simply about memorization. thats why i asked if you had a useful degree instead of any degree.
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 The ability to learn even the most difficult subjects does not correlate with intellectualism or even intelligence. Just look at yourself for example...you can't even use the most basic rationale or logic. Most pro-choicers won't even deny that a fetus is a life- they just deny they're a "human" life.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@travmanbw43 Go reasearch studies on pro-choicers. I also personally know way more pro-choice men than women. Most of them blatantly state that they want to have sex without having to deal with a child. The females tend to value life more. How stupid can you be to deny that men are more promiscuous than women? The sexual pursuit are of the brain is 2.5 times larger in the male than in the female. But I'm sure you have the "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind's made up!" mentality.
XxHarmonicNightsxX 1 year ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX you obviously have not the slightest understanding of numbers/statistics. you can make polls to say whatever you want. And outlawing abortion still wont stop people from having sex, and still won't stop men from leaving pregnant women behind. and there is no arguing about the brain size in area of sexual pursuit, that is biological fact. but all of your arguments that illegalizing abortion more men are in favor of abortion than women are either speculative or wrong
travmanbw43 1 year ago
@travmanbw43 Be realistic here, the large majority of young men will have sex at every oppurtunity. You're right that if abortion was suddenly illegalized today,there would hardly be a change in men abandoning families and such.The damage has been done. Abortion should have never been legalized in the first place. It has severely screwed up the mentality of both men and women. I'd bet if you just got a random group of people from anywhere, the men favoring abortion would be more than the females
XxHarmonicNightsxX 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX that last comment is totally, 100% speculative. that's all i am even going to say
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and actually, abortion was legal in at least 10 states prior to roe v wade, that case wasn't even really about abortion so much as privacy, and it made it illegal for any person or govt. intervene in an abortion on the grounds of a right to privacy
travmanbw43 11 months ago
@XxHarmonicNightsxX and the whole don't confuse me with facts, what facts. you have only used one fact in your whole tirade and i already knew that one (the brain). throwing random nubers are not facts. and just because a few people you know say they are pro-choice so they dont have to raise a child doesn't mean that is how all men feel, and it doesnt mean an impregnanted woman has to get an abortion. no you seem to be saying all men are pigs who only want sex
travmanbw43 1 year ago
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kriccistarr 2 years ago
HAHAHA!!!
Hello lesbians!! Will you come with me?
That dude's stupid.
peeweemoses 2 years ago
Honestly I'm Surprised that these people are all still alive...I would have definetly thought that someone would have blown up there chuch by now!
IfonlyIwereAwesome 2 years ago
they already tried, they're like cockroaches, you can't kill them all. :(
Wargod558 2 years ago
@Wargod558
Well darn!...I mean I dont want them dead! I just want them to shut the EFF UP!...Their CRAZY! & have been brainwashed almost amonst any chance of being brought back to reality!...trying to talk to them is like trying to talk to a tree! their so set in there ways its sad!...I honestly feel sorry for them!...I ean what kind of parent raises their children with sooooo much hate?! it horrible! luckily they said they would only marry in their church & sense their all family..hopefully..
IfonlyIwereAwesome 2 years ago
@Wargod558
...they will eventually die out in time unless someone gets brainwashed enough by this hateful bull their screaming to get sucked in & they can start a whole nother generation then were all screwed over yet again!...but I seriously doubt someone will! they are so crazy & hateful no one in their right mine will go for it & they even said themselves in many interviees that they will not marry someone outside of their SICK CULT of a "Church" so I dont see this lasting through the years!
IfonlyIwereAwesome 2 years ago
Religion needs to die.
I know, people will say that "this doesn't represent "my" religion, but it's all the same, bullshit!!!
jmrx27 2 years ago
Fuck you.. id like to whip the fuck out of you.. you fuckin pussy ass moter fucker..
people like YOU are who needs to die you fucking peice of fucking shit
Bizzmark17 2 years ago
Wow, you are an angry one,or should I say, very religious of you. Well,if you would like to whip the fuck out of me truly, I would say good luck, i'm sure you don't want to come to Japan to do so. I'll be hanging out in Tokyo for the next year, come have some sake and relax.
jmrx27 2 years ago
yeah, the sad part is the sisters are cute. i think they just need some action.
OchrismongrelO 2 years ago
it really sux that she is so cute....misguided and insane, but cute
Ebuzz67 2 years ago
the guys in the car are funny
Jonatahn14 2 years ago
THIS is why God hates America.
DwydAshquin 2 years ago
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DanteLacey21 2 years ago
God doesn't hate. God is Love
DanteLacey21 2 years ago 8
@DanteLacey21 Psalm 5:5 Romans 9:13 Try reading your Bible.
TAKEHEED1 1 year ago
@TAKEHEED1, "I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of love" 1 john 4:16
"and it is my desire to lavish my love on you" 1 john 3:1
"I am your father, and I love you even as I love my son, Jesus". john 17:23
"For in Jesus my love for you is revealed" john 17:26
You are the one who needs to read your bible.
DanteLacey21 1 year ago
@DanteLacey21 So you've read some verses, you should know then that there is Love & Hate from God, look at Esau. When you say that God doesn't hate your incorrect, according to the Bible. Yes God does love, no question
TAKEHEED1 1 year ago
@DanteLacey21 Oh, Thanks I'm reading right now.
TAKEHEED1 1 year ago
The girl in this video is Sara Phelps. She is clearly telling you the standards of God, and she's not losing her temper in the process. Anyone who says these people should be killed are much worse than the people who are giving you some WORDS that you don't happen to agree with.
If you want to contend with them, don't be violent against them. Just give them some WORDS of your own.
DavidLynch007 2 years ago
wat did the people in the car at the end say???????? anyone know??
Bobby33425 2 years ago
If you happen to come this group, just be quiet, and give them a big smile. Forget about your sin, give these guys a grin. Always look on the bright side of life.
rolfyboy8 2 years ago
this bitch is sick and twistedn in the head and she needs to be shot so her brains will splatter over the churchaltar next service. Let's drink on that one.
No thank you I rather piss and take a shit on her while she dies in tremendous pain
when she is dead finally her craphole will be stuffed with a rethot crucifix and we burrie you unside down with your feet outside your grave so that the dogs have a christian snack at night.
rot in hell you whore of god
JargarForte 3 years ago
Um...I heartily disagree with their ideology myself but this is really over the top and in my opinion, not much different than the rage they are preaching.
RETROGEMS 2 years ago
That girl at the beginning is sort of cute. If she wasn't a moron, I'd wouldn't mind going out with her for a cheeseless vegan pizza.
ElectricMayhem87 3 years ago
what's with the porno shorts? those pasty chicksticks are making me think of sinful actions
jenni4yellow 3 years ago
Satan's army spawned by the antichrist Freddy Phelps. He sold his soul to the devil long ago. Look at his words for all to see, straight from Satan to Freddy's signs.
wilmaohman 3 years ago
These "people" are sick !!!
buickman1973 3 years ago
Lakersalex, belief in God in not irrational, how THESE FOOLS are making Him look is irrational. I'm a Christian and I go to church. What you see here is a CULT. They're taking the same Bible I read and twisting it to back up their own hatred, thus making a God to suit themselves, gee, a big no no in the Ten Commandments. I don't know how they go day after day, not winning one soul over with their crap, and STILL they go out and do it again! FOOLS!
MattHatter 3 years ago
MattHatter: Then YOU need to do something about these people because they are seriously hurting your religion - the same way radicals hurt Islam.
2rate1 3 years ago
So many Christians have tried to talk to these people and they just don't listen! Like I said, they're a cult. Unfortunately it's like trying to talk to a Jehovah's Witness, who are very nice people, unlike these hateful tools. These people just talk over you and won't let you get a word in edge wise. God will have His way, time will be the perfect vengence.
MattHatter 3 years ago
MattHatter you are full of it - WBC is no more a "cult" than your so-called "church" Their religion is exactly the same as the original American Baptists and Presbyterians. WBC just never changed with the times like you did.
I bet the members of WBC know the Bible and the Christian religion more than you or you pastor.
"not winning one soul over with their crap"
Armenian huh?
CarryANation 3 years ago
And what are YOUR beliefs? Tell me a little about yourself and where YOU stand in your belief syste, before you go spouting off! Well....let's hear it!
MattHatter 3 years ago
MattHatter, stop pretending to be a Christian, I doubt you've even read the Bible, much less studied it. You go to church for social reasons and your wife makes you.
CarryANation 3 years ago
And stop pretending that YOU know jack! You're ranting, I specifically asked you to back up your statement and you haven't done it. So I'll assume this is a joke just to make me mad, huh? So unless you are going to back up your statements with some theology, I'd rather not waste my time!
MattHatter 3 years ago
uh, don't be so self-centered, this is the internet - youtube.
I have read the Bible. I have studied the Bible. Give it up if you have, let's hear it.
I say you're a fraud, you are not a Christian, and your so-called "church" is nothing more than a social club for you.
You don't know anything about WBC, Baptists, or Presbyterians, and you lie about what the Bible says and what Christianity is.
Stop lying, you son of a serpent.
CarryANation 3 years ago
Who do you love in your life and what is it you hate? Tell me...
MattHatter 3 years ago
"how THESE FOOLS are making Him look is irrational. I'm a Christian and I go to church." MattHatter
"I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:22
CarryANation 3 years ago
Well you're doing a great job of pointing out all my wrongs, that's the easy part. You still have not answered me on where you stand from a theological viewpoint. You also did not answer my other question about who do you love and WHAT do you hate...I said WHAT...not WHO. The Bible also says be "swift to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." Which you did NONE OF! .
MattHatter 3 years ago
Yes and it also says treat all crimes as equal and to stone anyone who DOES commit ANY crime to DEATH!!! THEN it says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you! I mean COME ON!!! The bible is full of self-contradictions, and moreover, proof against the reality of its own stories! Read the bible and think LOGICALLY about it as you read, and you will see why it's so hard to believe! That, or stop forcing it down others' throats!
rentheadangelcollins 3 years ago
Are you talking to me or that other Bible thumping nutcase that was attacking me on here? If you don't believe the Bible is 100% spiritually accurate, that's one thing, but it IS 100% historically accurate, ask ANY licensed archeologist and they'll tell you. I'm not shoving ANYTHING down people's throats, people just get annoyed when you do that. But Westboro loves to ANNOY people and think they're getting people to "repent" of their sins by being loudmouths!
MattHatter 3 years ago
Sorry...talking to the other guy, but to make a point, my aunt IS a licensed archaeologist, and it's not really 100% accurate...For one, there is only a little evidence to support the "great flood" and that is just some flood that happened in Egypt(or nearby I can't remember the name of the country for certain, but still). It DID carry a boat to a hilltop, but that's it! Also, there is no WAY two of all the animals in the world were within walking distance! There's ALOT more, but no room here.
rentheadangelcollins 3 years ago
And furthermore, they think they're earning "brownie points" for heaven by being the way they are. They get off on it! You can't reason with these people! I'd like to meet ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL who came to know Jesus by means of these people. Do you ever see or hear anyone interviewed who says, "Yeah, the Westboro Babtist Church really showed me the error of my ways and now I'm saved by the Blood of Christ." Do you hear of people changing their ways at Billy Graham crusades? Yes.
MattHatter 3 years ago
If I was the guy in that car I would have run them over
ipodblendedfun 3 years ago