bob i love you and totally one million percent with you on everything except the part of lee harvey oswald i believe he strongly was a patsy and did not even fire one single shot but was placed there so he could get framed which was why jack ruby had ot take him out
and there you go. oswald was living out the dream of being a double agent for the u.s. government ala "i led 3 lives". he allowed himself to be manipulated into position by the very men he trusted and when it suddenly became apparent that he was being framed, he ran and was caught. "I'm just a patsy". the penny finally dropped.
47 years ago today, President Kennedy was brutally murdered in front of his beautiful wife while riding in Dealy Plaza. 47 years- and we still can't come to a unanimous conclusion.
So what was the reason you think Oswald tried to neck himself? Because he was disappointed he couldnt fulfill an assignment? Doesnt that show weakness and, or a manipulative nature on display? After all if you're fairdinkum about lights out you wouldnt slash only one wrist.
@genericgeorge Yeah but he locked the door and there is no way he could be sure his female guide would come to the rescue. I think he intended to kill himself at that time. He also tried to kill himself in the Texas theater when he attacked the cops.
False bro. Didn't happen. He wanted to get away. He was headed for Jack Ruby's appartment three blocks from the Texas Theater. You can look that up. He felt he could get to the bottom of the events if he could talk to Ruby. If he wanted to die, he would have stayed at the depository, where he realized the events were unraveling. Someone who wants to die doesn't run away.
I never heard that part before. Why would someone try to kill himself in the Texas theater after he attacked the cops? And a suppossedly innocent person at that? I just can't grasp what you say.
I like this video. During the height of the cold war, 3rd world nations took advantage of the polarized sides. Ppl. did the same thing. Some, frustrated commies. others, did what the govts. did.......they went from side to side getting what they could. I think Oswald did something similar. Only he wasnt so idealistically convicted either way. It just stimulated him to be involved. ...His wife dogged him. That frustrated his ego more than anything else..
what about when oswald was accused of shooting at gen walker a month before the kennedy killing? do u think that was oswald or just something else to set up his fake getting more and more desperate for attention or whatever the media says to his reasons for the assassination
I have been to his apartment in Minsk, it was by accident, also the TV factory he worked at, they are still there,ou should go to Minsk Bob. It was a little spooky but also as a historian quite interesting. Y I doesnt suprise me if you are right about him.
What about convicted Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession to being the CIA team leader for the operation codenamed "The Big Event"? See SaintJohnHunt(dot)com for transcript of confession and available audio. We didn't learn of this from See BS! Mass media breeds mass deception.
I'd like a coherent picture of your claims about LHO, but your video leaves out some things.
Let's say that Oswald really went to Russia as a CIA agent. He manages to marry the daughter of a Russia general, applies to a university specializing in training Marxist guerillas & revolutionaries, and then -- what? He's too lazy to attend
Marxist classes, bone up on Marxist literature, etc.? He would have known from the get-go that being a good Commie demanded intense indoctrination. What happened?
TroyOl - Oswald was not on any kind of mission in Minsk, as he would have been at the Lumumba U. And he apparently didn't realize that he was being watched by the KGB.
So, he just wasn't very enthusiastic about such things.
I always thought that why did not Lee just shoot himself or poison? I mean, there are MANY better ways for killing yourself , way more efficient than cutting one's wrists.
And it is off the topic, but what do you think of those famous backyard photos with Lee and the riffle?
From what I've studied about Oswald it is my belief that he was a CIA double agent sent to Russia to collect data on the Soviet and later framed in the JFK assassination.
Look at the facts John Armstrong has come up with. Having taken 18 months to read the Warren Hearings, I can tell you that this idea of there being more than one Oswald, and that he had spy ties, is proven beyond doubt. Harvey & Lee, or, Lee & Harvey is his riveting book!
Your attempt to make a case for Oswald being a spy, or an agent of the government, or whatever - is a hardly a new concept. This has long since been refuted. I cannot believe you use Marguerite Oswald (his mother) as an indicator of Oswald have such dealings. That woman was a certifiable kook - just like her youngest son. They had very similar personalities - a sense of persecution combined with a sense of self importance, leading to a frustrated and cynical view of the world.
Why is it David, that you guys always resort to personal smears? ALL relevant evidence confirms that Marguerite was correct.
Kooky or not, this was the guy's mother. It's not surprising that she confirmed the mountains of evidence that proves LHO worked for U.S. intelligence agencies.
David, do you think it was a coincidence that LHO encountered the FPCC, the ACLU and the CORE, each at the top of Hoover's S-list within about 90 days?
How many of the FBI's enemies did you run into lately?
Bob, if we're looking for the truth, we have to get past the notion of being "polite" to the individuals we are scrutinizing - especially if we are trying to dissect the truth behind the brutal slaying of an American president. Even Robert Oswald would characterize his mother (and brother) as a kook, but would probably choose different words to convey that seem thought. Anybody who was close to Marguerite thought she was a self-absorbed woman with a persecution complex, like Lee was.
This is an inconvenient forum for such exchanges. Just let me say this - your point on this matter is neither new nor novel and can be gleaned by the countless conspiracy books that inundate the market on this topic. Smarter people than us have analyzed this and there is sufficient evidence to claim that Marguerite was prone to flights of fancy and was self-absorbed. If true, do you think the secretive Oswald would allow his govt associations to be known to Marguerite, yet not Marina?
You use Marguerite's impression of Lee being a spy, or some kind of government agent, as an indicator that he WAS working for the government - and the best you can come up with as to HOW she can come by this information is "maternal instinct"? Secondly - if Oswald was truly being handled by the government, he wouldn't have lived in such squalor for the majority of his life. At a minimum, he would have had a degree of comfort. Yet, he hardly ever had two nickels to rub together.
Oswald was not a govt employee, David. Think of a very desperate character wearing a sign that said, "will spy for food".
Other than some travel expenses to Russia and back, I doubt that he made any money at all as an informant.
He was obsessed, to the point where he tried to commit suicide and finally, to become a martyr.
BTW, read Silvia Odio's testimony. She lied about *when* it happened, but she very likely, was truthful about what one of LHO's latino associates said about him.
As for Marguerite, do you suppose that in addition to her instincts, she had the good sense to realize that "communists" do not invite Marine recruiters back to the house??
Marines *killed* communists, David. It is insane that anyone believes that a disciple of Herbert Philbrick who was obsessed with the Marine Corps, could possibly be a red.
That just doesn't happen - not in the real world.
ALL relevant evidence supports the fact that Oswald was fanatically anti-communist.
Oswald helped to get the U2 spy plane shot down in 1959 to stop a peace conference. The FBI used him as a double agent to spy on the CIA and Cubans after the Bay of Pigs. When they found out they set him up as a patsy. G.H.W. Bush killed JFK as he worked for the CIA and planned the Bay of Pigs in 1961.
Kennedy was killed by the mafia working with corrupt elements of the CIA. Like cia & mafia worked together during the bay of pigs -FACT. Oswald was a patsy, and he was not supposed to get caught. That is why Jack Ruby (who was part of the jewish mob/teamster) killed Oswald to silence him. Today's mainstream media is still brainwashing the American people saying Oswald was a communist. Oswald was being 'handled' by the mafia & Cia/ Guy Banister in particular. He was their patsy.
bob i love you and totally one million percent with you on everything except the part of lee harvey oswald i believe he strongly was a patsy and did not even fire one single shot but was placed there so he could get framed which was why jack ruby had ot take him out
darthzodar 1 month ago
@4:09
"Knew all along" ?
"Believe" isn´t knowledge.
Her "believe" here is just an opinion,
"many reasons", just guessing,
guessing isn´t proof.
CRUSADERPIGGYBOY 5 months ago
and there you go. oswald was living out the dream of being a double agent for the u.s. government ala "i led 3 lives". he allowed himself to be manipulated into position by the very men he trusted and when it suddenly became apparent that he was being framed, he ran and was caught. "I'm just a patsy". the penny finally dropped.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
Maybe Oswald was killed for talking to the FBI
v19d 11 months ago
Sorry I guess no one was fascinated
v19d 11 months ago
Some reporter was fascinated
v19d 11 months ago
Well thought out and executed documentary.
Extremely well done mate.
dengler11 1 year ago
47 years ago today, President Kennedy was brutally murdered in front of his beautiful wife while riding in Dealy Plaza. 47 years- and we still can't come to a unanimous conclusion.
leauxbert 1 year ago
So what was the reason you think Oswald tried to neck himself? Because he was disappointed he couldnt fulfill an assignment? Doesnt that show weakness and, or a manipulative nature on display? After all if you're fairdinkum about lights out you wouldnt slash only one wrist.
genericgeorge 1 year ago
@genericgeorge Yeah but he locked the door and there is no way he could be sure his female guide would come to the rescue. I think he intended to kill himself at that time. He also tried to kill himself in the Texas theater when he attacked the cops.
bobharris77 1 year ago
@bobharris77
False bro. Didn't happen. He wanted to get away. He was headed for Jack Ruby's appartment three blocks from the Texas Theater. You can look that up. He felt he could get to the bottom of the events if he could talk to Ruby. If he wanted to die, he would have stayed at the depository, where he realized the events were unraveling. Someone who wants to die doesn't run away.
traycox01 1 year ago
@bobharris77
I never heard that part before. Why would someone try to kill himself in the Texas theater after he attacked the cops? And a suppossedly innocent person at that? I just can't grasp what you say.
bikeguy1986 1 year ago
Outstanding job!
He also had a high level "Crypto" security clearance while in Atsugi, and was taught Russian while in the Marines.
You might want to check out this sweet little song:
HOMER HENDERSON Lee Harvey was a Friend of Mine: watch?v=ma9DwoOnGT8
plaguepuppy 2 years ago
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MrDtb4bd 2 years ago
I like this video. During the height of the cold war, 3rd world nations took advantage of the polarized sides. Ppl. did the same thing. Some, frustrated commies. others, did what the govts. did.......they went from side to side getting what they could. I think Oswald did something similar. Only he wasnt so idealistically convicted either way. It just stimulated him to be involved. ...His wife dogged him. That frustrated his ego more than anything else..
and thats my 2 cents of the day.
peace
translationwiz 2 years ago
Oswald was intelligence!!!
supreme12 2 years ago
Again, excellent work here. Recommended. 5/5
pumamama9 2 years ago
what about when oswald was accused of shooting at gen walker a month before the kennedy killing? do u think that was oswald or just something else to set up his fake getting more and more desperate for attention or whatever the media says to his reasons for the assassination
pat442389 2 years ago
Oswald's brother Robert wrote a book that essentially amateur psychoananlyzes, transparently incriminates, and ultimately condemns Lee.
Nice brother.
voidforpurpose 2 years ago
He is an honest man
gaserjd 2 years ago
I have been to his apartment in Minsk, it was by accident, also the TV factory he worked at, they are still there,ou should go to Minsk Bob. It was a little spooky but also as a historian quite interesting. Y I doesnt suprise me if you are right about him.
paulhimsel 2 years ago
My head is spining!
nickya2 2 years ago
What about convicted Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession to being the CIA team leader for the operation codenamed "The Big Event"? See SaintJohnHunt(dot)com for transcript of confession and available audio. We didn't learn of this from See BS! Mass media breeds mass deception.
whole2th 2 years ago
Hunt never confessed to anything. If you disagree, then cite him verbatim.
bobharris77 2 years ago
" I was a bench-warmer for the "Big Event" He's on video saying it. Have you seen it? I like your work a lot Bob. Thanks for all your hard work.
brothermanhum 2 years ago
Absolutely great video, Bob! Great work!
Steenville 3 years ago
Oswald was no more a communist than John F. Kennedy was!
kcsunshine64 3 years ago
I'd like a coherent picture of your claims about LHO, but your video leaves out some things.
Let's say that Oswald really went to Russia as a CIA agent. He manages to marry the daughter of a Russia general, applies to a university specializing in training Marxist guerillas & revolutionaries, and then -- what? He's too lazy to attend
Marxist classes, bone up on Marxist literature, etc.? He would have known from the get-go that being a good Commie demanded intense indoctrination. What happened?
TroyOi 3 years ago
TroyOl - Oswald was not on any kind of mission in Minsk, as he would have been at the Lumumba U. And he apparently didn't realize that he was being watched by the KGB.
So, he just wasn't very enthusiastic about such things.
bobharris77 3 years ago
@bobharris77 The CIA had an interest in the radio factory where LHO worked !
agamemnon419 1 year ago
@bobharris77 Hello sir!
I always thought that why did not Lee just shoot himself or poison? I mean, there are MANY better ways for killing yourself , way more efficient than cutting one's wrists.
And it is off the topic, but what do you think of those famous backyard photos with Lee and the riffle?
yeees123 6 months ago
Oswald subscribed to communist magazines. He beat his wife and had planned a previous failed attempt to kill General Walker. He did it.
marshelmormon 3 years ago
From what I've studied about Oswald it is my belief that he was a CIA double agent sent to Russia to collect data on the Soviet and later framed in the JFK assassination.
kingsbridge77 3 years ago 6
@kingsbridge77 from what I've studied about zombies, there's a good chance they've consumed your brain.
andrelebaron 3 months ago
wow what an ass you are
Eidelmania 1 month ago
r u going to b makein a part 3
becuase i was wanting to know how he ploted to kill jfk
zboy419 3 years ago
Look at the facts John Armstrong has come up with. Having taken 18 months to read the Warren Hearings, I can tell you that this idea of there being more than one Oswald, and that he had spy ties, is proven beyond doubt. Harvey & Lee, or, Lee & Harvey is his riveting book!
ringtalk3 3 years ago 2
Your attempt to make a case for Oswald being a spy, or an agent of the government, or whatever - is a hardly a new concept. This has long since been refuted. I cannot believe you use Marguerite Oswald (his mother) as an indicator of Oswald have such dealings. That woman was a certifiable kook - just like her youngest son. They had very similar personalities - a sense of persecution combined with a sense of self importance, leading to a frustrated and cynical view of the world.
davidemerling 3 years ago
Why is it David, that you guys always resort to personal smears? ALL relevant evidence confirms that Marguerite was correct.
Kooky or not, this was the guy's mother. It's not surprising that she confirmed the mountains of evidence that proves LHO worked for U.S. intelligence agencies.
David, do you think it was a coincidence that LHO encountered the FPCC, the ACLU and the CORE, each at the top of Hoover's S-list within about 90 days?
How many of the FBI's enemies did you run into lately?
bobharris77 3 years ago
Bob, if we're looking for the truth, we have to get past the notion of being "polite" to the individuals we are scrutinizing - especially if we are trying to dissect the truth behind the brutal slaying of an American president. Even Robert Oswald would characterize his mother (and brother) as a kook, but would probably choose different words to convey that seem thought. Anybody who was close to Marguerite thought she was a self-absorbed woman with a persecution complex, like Lee was.
davidemerling 3 years ago
It's not about being "polite". It's that your post contained zero evidence and 100% insult.
Show me a single piece of evidence that suggests she was incapable of understanding her own son.
And she didn't come to that belief, only after the assassination.
Long before that, she asked the state department to bring him home from Russia. They did exactly that, and fronted him the money as well.
bobharris77 3 years ago
This is an inconvenient forum for such exchanges. Just let me say this - your point on this matter is neither new nor novel and can be gleaned by the countless conspiracy books that inundate the market on this topic. Smarter people than us have analyzed this and there is sufficient evidence to claim that Marguerite was prone to flights of fancy and was self-absorbed. If true, do you think the secretive Oswald would allow his govt associations to be known to Marguerite, yet not Marina?
davidemerling 3 years ago
LOL! Of course my point is not "new". I posted video clips from 20-45 years ago saying the same thing.
And LHO told his mother he was a commie, just like he told everyone else. But obviously, she never bought it.
I can still remember my own mother telling me when I was a kid, "Now why don't you tell me what really happened?".
I think it's maternal instinct.
BTW David, you've been dodging a LOT Of questions.
bobharris77 3 years ago
You use Marguerite's impression of Lee being a spy, or some kind of government agent, as an indicator that he WAS working for the government - and the best you can come up with as to HOW she can come by this information is "maternal instinct"? Secondly - if Oswald was truly being handled by the government, he wouldn't have lived in such squalor for the majority of his life. At a minimum, he would have had a degree of comfort. Yet, he hardly ever had two nickels to rub together.
davidemerling 3 years ago
Oswald was not a govt employee, David. Think of a very desperate character wearing a sign that said, "will spy for food".
Other than some travel expenses to Russia and back, I doubt that he made any money at all as an informant.
He was obsessed, to the point where he tried to commit suicide and finally, to become a martyr.
BTW, read Silvia Odio's testimony. She lied about *when* it happened, but she very likely, was truthful about what one of LHO's latino associates said about him.
bobharris77 3 years ago
As for Marguerite, do you suppose that in addition to her instincts, she had the good sense to realize that "communists" do not invite Marine recruiters back to the house??
Marines *killed* communists, David. It is insane that anyone believes that a disciple of Herbert Philbrick who was obsessed with the Marine Corps, could possibly be a red.
That just doesn't happen - not in the real world.
ALL relevant evidence supports the fact that Oswald was fanatically anti-communist.
bobharris77 3 years ago
Oswald helped to get the U2 spy plane shot down in 1959 to stop a peace conference. The FBI used him as a double agent to spy on the CIA and Cubans after the Bay of Pigs. When they found out they set him up as a patsy. G.H.W. Bush killed JFK as he worked for the CIA and planned the Bay of Pigs in 1961.
jerome2022 3 years ago 2
Kennedy was killed by the mafia working with corrupt elements of the CIA. Like cia & mafia worked together during the bay of pigs -FACT. Oswald was a patsy, and he was not supposed to get caught. That is why Jack Ruby (who was part of the jewish mob/teamster) killed Oswald to silence him. Today's mainstream media is still brainwashing the American people saying Oswald was a communist. Oswald was being 'handled' by the mafia & Cia/ Guy Banister in particular. He was their patsy.
clautrice07 3 years ago
Excellent, informative video.
susiedent 3 years ago
well done!
Zeitzler 3 years ago 3