The Codes of Gender - Teaser - Available on DVD

[NyanBoi]

These comments are ridiculous... "Go read the bible if you want easy access to historical examples." is the most ridiculous statement I have EVER read. The Bible has so many translations and mis-translations the only way to know what was originally said would be to read the original document in the original language. Not that religious book are historically accurate. And the OP of that quote said someone else was a Nazi because they defend this vid? What??

[cacherry1]

This documentary aired today on Free Speech TV. It is available on both Direct TV and Dish. One of the most intelligent commentaries on the topic available in media today.

[TaurusType]

...rate, why is it that girls act "boyish" when they're young? why does littles boys act "like sissies" when they're the same age? It's because they haven't been conditioned to be these super fake "macho" men and overly sexualized female, but never mind any of that, this conversation's going nowhere lol.

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

this conversation is going nowhere because you're losing.

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

Your question: "why is it that girls act "boyish" when they're young? why does littles boys act "like sissies" when they're the same age?"

Stupid feminist answer: "It's because they haven't been conditioned to be these super fake "macho" men and overly sexualized female"

Actually, the real reason is because they haven't hit puberty yet. Their bodies and their brains have not yet begun to develop secondary sex characteristics. It's all biology.

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi Dude, lol. This is why this conversation's going nowhere. You just made up points that make no sense.

Boys arent born rambo. Girls arent born britney spears. lol, this is a waste.

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

"Dude, lol. This is why this conversation's going nowhere. You just made up points that make no sense."

I am baffled by this statement. It indicates you never even tried to consider my point, or were incabable of considering it. My guess (only a guess) is that you took a women's studies class in college and you were too dumb to challenge it. You took it as gospel truth and summarily disregard anything that contradicts it. You would make the perfect little Nazi.

[vbritsi]

This is a load of crap. Whoever is responsible for peddling this constructivist nonsense should be thrown in jail.

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi Sex is biological; Gender is social.

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

Now hold on a minute. What exactly do you mean gender is "social"? The word "gender" had its meaning skewed by some psychologist about twenty-some-odd years ago. I resent this, but begrudgingly accept that it now has been changed to mean more than just sex. So where's the proof that it is a so-called "social construct"?

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi Well, because being "sexy and passive and innocent and controllable" isn't a naturally occuring phenomenon for females. Being "tough and pissed off and emotionless and violent" isn't biological with men either. The thing is, is that these characteristics that we deem "the social norm" for both men and women come from images in the media (which aren't naturally occuring either; someone made those images); images in the media come from the social anxieties of their makers. Hence (pt1)

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType So then what about men and women who lived hundreds of years ago, before the invention of any form of mass media? Why do their "gender" characteristics match ours in the modern world? In fact, why are these gender characteristic so universal across cultures?

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi Gimme some examples.

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

Go read the bible if you want easy access to historical examples. Look at other modern-day primitive cultures like the tribes in New Guinea where men are hunters and warriors and women are nurturers.

Actually, if you want to get right down to it, it is feminists who owe the world an explanation for the outrageous bullshit they've tried to pass off as "scholarly research" regarding these alleged "social constructs" of gender. Burden of proof is on YOU. You show ME some examples!

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi I don't owe you anything, calm down. And usually in any argument, anyone making any kind of point is the one who ought to back it up with proof.

But in any case, any one ethnic group's culture doesn't automatically represent the whole human condition. I haven't done any research into the people of New Guinea, but most likely those aren't the "set rules." I bet you there are women warriors and I also bet that women have more prominent roles than JUST being nurturers. At any... (pt1)

[vbritsi]

@TaurusType

"But in any case, any one ethnic group's culture doesn't automatically represent the whole human condition."

True, but when they all consistently show the same enduring pattern, it becomes difficult to use this bullshit retort.

[TaurusType]

@vbritsi Gender is a social construct, which was created by the minds of a few; sex is a naturally occuring, biological phenomenon, which we have no control over.

[RBGTHUG]

$150 to buy a personal copy?

someone upload this via torrent or something

[Bardlettt]

@vbritsi  It is biology, but it is also social. As someone who considers themselves somewhere in the middle when it comes to gender (I'm not intersex, I'm fully female when it comes to parts), I know firsthand how society acts upon gender roles. I get a lot of shit on a daily basis for not following the strict rules of behavior and dress for my sex.

[vbritsi]

@Bardlettt

Maybe people are biologically programmed to react negatively to individuals like you. It's an instinctive gut reaction. Maybe you were biologically hard-wired to be different.

Why do you jump to the conclusion that it must be a "social construct?" Especially without any hard evidence, and especially when it could just as easily be explained by biology?

[Bardlettt]

@vbritsi It's not jumping anywhere- they're inexorably linked. We are biologically inclined to form groups as a survival mechanism. Part of being in a group is having do's and don't's, if you do what the group wants, you get a better chance to survive, if you don't, they kick you out. It is a social function, but it also has a genetic basis in the way our brains are structured.

[Bardlettt]

@vbritsi So they are programmed to have a gut reaction, but it's enforced so strongly by social constructs that they think it is RIGHT to have that reaction. Like a white supremacist who sees nothing wrong in wanting to lynch a black person. It's a social construct (the way they were taught) with biological roots (we are all ingrained to be xenophobic).

[Bardlettt]

@vbritsi Our social concepts of gender are more or less a very exaggerated construct of the biological gender differences from our hunter-gatherer beginnings.

[SexyMelon]

I always found this invisible wall that is supposed to make us different degrees of human based on genitalia ridiculous. All the way since childhood and to this day.

In our society, indeed, gender is nothing more than yet another set of social norms and attitudes. Yet another historical distinction between us.

At the same time, we ARE born with gender identity, that's a scientific fact, very easily verifiable... And this identity includes precisely none of what we think makes genders such.

[qwexas]

We don't glorify a very valuable kind of woman. The supportive wife/mother is overshadowed by the tough woman cop/FBI/CIA/tomb-raider and the sex symbol. When the feminine woman is shown she is weak, less intelligent, the victim, only there for the masculine characters to save her or avenge her death. Arguably society's most important role portrayed as unrewarding and inferior.

[watafreakinpain]

not to sound too superficial, but what music is playing on this?

[lifeinterrupted]

Wow. I'm sure this is amazing. Goffman was a brilliant mind.

[jimmyhackers]

looks pretty brillaint

i hope it exposes the female mindwashing bullshit portrayed in sex and the city, loose woman and desperate housewives... etc....

THESE ARE NOT WOMEN IN POWER

these are women being used for sex to gain power

when will people wake up to the difference?

[GrizzlyFist]

im a merman JAY KAY ! TOTTALY NOT A MERMAN HAHAHAHAHAHA oOo peace pyramid

[Kloxboy]

That is certainly intriguing.

[rss313]

Looks interesting. Also check out "Tough Guise" for a similar look at gender issues.

[JONATAN5641]

@rss313 i've seen that movie it was one of the greatest things i have ever seen it changed my out look on life as a "man"