L. Hughes- 15ppg; Ilgaskaus 12ppg, Drew Gooden 12ppg, Gibson 10ppg, Pavlovic 9ppg.............. good point :) they had some balance but no good second option, Hughes never really developed into what was hoped (Pippen). But they did only go 50-32, detroit that year was 53-29 if it was the West they would have been 5th. You got a point, Im just saying that the EAst was seriously weak that year, check for yourself. h007
People act like Kobe was the team.... None of those faggots in the line up would ever even start for a team except for Kobe. When everyone left in 2004 and Kobe was the only one left from the original team the Lakers organization did nothing to try to rebuild. They gave him a crap team with crap potential and expected him to do it all. A burden no one can say Jordan ever had since his team was basically the same every year. Kobe didn't quit on the Lakers the Lakers quit on Kobe and he knew it.
@MerkinMuffly Bynum injuried, then you got a inconsisten odom, chris mimh, kwame brown, aging fisher, smush parker, sasha, mo evans, turiah, valdi... wtf
@Mannyfrom213 Taking 3 shots in the second half of an elimination game is quitting. You love the guy. But how can you defend this? How often do you see Kobe pack it in during a game? Never, he's always been a competitor and loves late game situations, this game he quit. Easy.
@Mannyfrom213 Loll what about the team in cleveland that went to the finals in 07...name the second best player on that team..........its ok I'll wait
Oh man, how hard it is to suit the haters, if he shoots 81 - he is a ballhog, if he passes around they start to question his greatness, well, there is a guy who averages almost a tripple-double and can't close the game like ever, and he is considered to be the best player of today. Modern fans are so logical... I swear if those morons had internet and stuff in th 80-90's MJ would never be a legend, he would be a ballhog who got lucky to have Pippen and Rodman to help him win it all.
@noopz0r your logic is flawed too. kobe is more efficient when hes a ball hog so him overly passing the ball just doesnt help his team and gives the impression that he doesnt care. lebron however is super effective as a distributor and getting his teammates involved so him passing the ball in late game situations isnt necessarily a bad thing.
@notae5 My logic goes like that, prime Kobe was better than prime LeBron, and here's why, when Kobe was in his prime, there was no one on the same level, when LeBron is in his prime he is still compared to Kobe who is older, to D. Wade, Durant, Rose etc. moreover, LBJ is a SF, I don't really care if he has 3 or 10 assists a game, he is a superstar who is gonna' be all-time great, he needs to win rings to prove that, his assist total would be a nice addition but not the main factor.
@noopz0r i never said anything about lebron or kobes rings though. you went the cheap route and played the ring card when it wasnt relevant to what we're talking about. we were talking about the players individual game styles, not whether or not they have won rings. rings are part of the discussion in the long run but in terms of physical ability i believe lebron is better then kobe but ill concede that kobes clutch and shooting abilities far surpass lebron. but lebron makes his team better
@notae5 You missed the point, rings is what brings a great player to the list of greatest, MJ was great but would he be the GOAT if he had no rings? The answer is NO. Same goes for Magic and Kobe, rings made them the best to play the game, right now LeBron is a super-star, but when his career ends at some point his greatness will be evaluated by rings, if he doesn't get any, believe me no one will put him in the same category as the listed above.
@notae5 Again, LBJ has outstanding combo of given and developed talents, but, this whole "making everyone better" is getting old, MJ made Bulls better and gave them 6 championships, Kobe made his squad 2 time back-to-back champions and also was an essential piece of the three-year run with Shaq, this is "making everyone better". LeBron never passed serious test in the playoffs with his teams, neither Cavs, nor Miami. When he does I'll be the first to admit and recognize his greatness.
@noopz0r he never passed serious test in the playoffs? the 2007 team he took to the finals pretty much on his own? that squad was mediocre and his performance against the pistons especially in game 5 was crazy did you see the drop off in the cavs after he left. one player made the difference between the best record in the east and the worst record in the nba. all of the teams kobe won with could have been playoff caliber teams without him but they surely wouldnt have won anything.
@notae5 Just in case you might think something, I'm not a hater, but when I said serious I meant business, Kobe failed in playoffs os multiple occasions but he came back to win, LeBron definately made a team out of the Cavs, but he never made them champions, and during his MVP runs that team was capable of winning, they had best record in the league, they were playing great.
@notae5 What I wanted to say all along is that Kobe is in a higher league than LBJ at the moment, he never had LeBron's talents and size, however his jumpshot and moves allow him to score at will eventhough he is playing through injuries pretty much all the time. Just imagine that this LeBron is facing prime Kobe, man, it's no chance for LBJ, no offense, but no one can guard Kobe, Ray Allen probably can, but still Kobe can score 40+ with perfect D by him.
@noopz0r One question. Since when is Ray Allen, out of all people in the NBA, a good enough defender to hold down one of the best scorers the game has ever seen? Yes, they had their battle back in the day but he's 1. no where near the athlete he used to be and 2. not known to be a "lock-down" defender.
@UNCDYNASTY1993 I don't know about "known" but in the FInals, Ray really played great D on Kobe, if you remember, first time Boston won the Finals, and the second time eventhough they lost, Ray did a really good job on limiting Kobe's contribution. It's all about that particular matchup, I'm not saying Allen is the best defender, but against Kobe he played very well.
@notae5 There is a nothing wrong with LBJ however, it's just people want him to be a person he is not, if all along he would be recognized as a perfect playmaker and not a closer, which he never was, he would be fine, the problem with Mike Brown was that he always relied on James, as if Mo was not capable of making a shot, the team needed to realize that James was giving them a boost which they had to close by themselves in the 4th quarter, Brown does the same in LA right now...
@notae5 And again, let's get back to the Beijing, if not for Kobe and D. Wade, this exact team with LBJ on it, maybe would have made it to the Finals, but would never win against Spain, D. Wade carried them to the Finals, Kobe sealed the deal in the Finals. So my point is, stats is a nice thing when they follow up the results, if you are ringless it all looks like lame excuse, by this logic MJ was worse than LBJ, which is nonsense.
the thing with Kobe is when he tries to get his team involved, he gets a ton of assists but is so reluctant to shoot the ball because of just that. When he wants to get others a chance he doesn't shoot, period. Nothing wrong with that because he's still the best player in the game.
So when Kobe listens to the haters & passes he "quit" but if he went off he's a ball hog that needs to pass more smh lol the man is always ina lose lose situation.
@LouiepMusic Everybody knows he quit because he was getting heavily criticized for not using his teammates so he made it a point to not shoot the ball and then he demanded a trade after the season but he ended up staying because they pulled off the trade of the decade and got Pau Gasol.
@JTKvid he kept passing when passing obviously wasn't working. you don't have to blindly follow one superstar, you can watch and enjoy the NBA for what it is.
i mean just watch this video. he fucking sucked in this game.
three years later kobe raped the phoenix suns in game 6 of the western conference finals... in phoenix....on his way to his fifth ring.....lebron quit on his team last year in the finals....this video is invalid
well that sucks to loss by a huge margin in a do or die in game 7 but hell who cares after 3 western conforence chamionship and 2 nba titles no one's give a shit about this stupid video past is past it happened a long time ago :-)
Damn what the hell, Kobe gets hate on everything. If he passes the ball, its labeled as giving up on the team. If he scores, its labeled as ballhog and selfish. Haters are everywhere. Of course, I'm going to say this series Kobe didn't put much effort after game 4 but people need to stop hating on him taking all the shots, he's earned and deserved it so if he isn't passing as much and jacking up shots, he has the right to. Oh yeah, he's led the lakers in assists for a while now haters
big laker fan but i was so pissed when he did this, then asks for a fucking trade later, goddammit, he was trying to prove a point that they couldn't do it without him when he was being selfish i remember him being injured and we didn't drop a game at one point. before the advent of social media he was tearing the lakers franchise apart with his attitude, top 10 all time but darn it, sometimes i wonder what would have happened if he did get the trade that he wanted, maybe no rings, who knows.
As a Lakers fan, this series and this game always pissed me off for what COULD have been. But you know what? Five years later, Kobe and the Lakers have two championships and the Suns never even sniffed the Finals. So in the end, I'm quite pleased about how history turned out.
LOL kobe put up 50 in game 6 and Lakers lost in OT... They should've won... Then the Suns are right on the edge of winning... You can't beat the Suns with the 2006 Lakers in a game 7... Especially since they were a 60 win team
@NBA2K11FIFA11 Yes he did. Just type in Kobe wants to leave LA. N the difference with Kobe is that he only had a sorry ass team for a bit n he still had Odom. LBJ's stood with the sorry ass Cavs for 7 fkn yrs before he decided to leave.
@thesniper321 LBJ's stuck with the sorry ass Cavs for 7 yrs n took them to the finals at just 22 yrs old. Kobe only had a weak ass team for how long before he went live on espn saying that he wants to leave LA? N Kobe still had Odom in 06
sorry ass? quit hugging his nuts, he wanted an all star they give him larry hugues, lebron tendency to hold th ball killed hugues, then they give him ben wallace, then shaq, then antawn jamison, kobe asked his team a move or a trade the team made moves, what about lebron? And like I said KOBE NEVER MADE A NATIONALY OR EVEN INTERNATIONALY TELEVISED SHOW TO SPIT ON THE FACE OF A WHOLE CITY, if you want a trade JUST ASK IT LIKE EVERYBODY who the hell lebron thought he was??
@thesniper321 "Shaq" in 2000 averaged 29.7 ppg n 13.6 rpg. In01 he averaged 28.7 ppg n 12.7 rpg. In 02 he averaged 27.2 ppg n 10.7 rpg. Those are his #'s in the yrs of the 3peat. Now here's what "Shaquille O'neal" averaged with the Cavs 5 yrs after he left LA. 12.6 ppg n 6.7 rpg. After 7 yrs of dedication to the Cavs n being responsible for taking them to the finals for the 1st time in franchise history at just 22 yrs old the best player they give him is a shell of his former self O'neal!!
dude why the hell are you bringing shaq stat who give a SHIT? Cleveland gave everything he wanted to lebron, I don't care if he wants a trade why not, BUT WHY SPIT ON THE FACE OF A WHOLE CITY ON TV WHY?? WHY?? You still haven't responded to my question and you avoid it cuz YOU KNOW this the DIFFERENCE between kobe and lebron. And lol at lebron ability to pass DUDE HAD THE BALL IN HIS HAND 99% of the time.
@thesniper321 I brought up Shaq's stats cause u were making it seem like he was still a force when he went to Cleveland n bringing up his stats only proved how stupid it was for u to bring him up. I could do the same for Ben Wallace who averaged 4.7 points a game. N i'll tell u y he left Cleveland. Cause LBJ's stuck with that sorry ass team for 7 yrs n took them to the finals for the 1st time in franchise history at just 22 yrs old n regardless of what ur dumbass says he didn't get shit!
@thesniper321 N LBJ's is also one of the best in the league at assisting his teammates. His ability to assists is the ONLY reason why Mo Williams made the All Star team. Tell me where was Mo Williams at before n after he played with LBJ's. LBJ's meant more to Cleveland than Kobe does to the Lakers. Kobe could leave LA n they'll still make the playoffs. As soon as LBJ's left Cleveland they set an NBA record for the most consecutive loses LOL.
And mo is still averaging 10ppg while pwith others players who need the ball with only 26 mpg, this made and average of 18ppg per 35mpg which was his average with cleveland also mo was already averaging 17ppg BEFORE coming to cleveland SO WHERE the fuck is THE LEBRON JAMES EFFECT??? lol
and to cut your crap about lebron supposed ability to deliver, allen iverson WHO IS my fave player was one of the biggest ballhogger but he still averaged more than 8apg some seasons... why???=> he always had the ball in his hands.....just like mister james how strange???
So shut up now you're only repeating what the media are saying about lebron without analysing what's really happening on the court. that comment on mo proved me your ignorance get away from here lebron lil bitch!!
@thesniper321 N cut the crap about LBJ's ability to deliver? He was only 12th in assists last yr along with being 2nd in the league in scoring behind Durant. See the difference dick breath? N Wade n Bosh don't compare to, Shaq, Malone, Payton, Artest, Bynum, Gasol, n Odom. How is Kobe a better scorer if he shoots the ball MORE but LBJ's still OUTSCORES him? LBJ's is 12th in assists don't u dare try to say Kobe is better at assisting. N LBJ's was runner up for defensive player of the yr twice!
12th in the league is great now ??? wasn't he 6th in cleveland? just to show how he fell once he couldn't dominate the ball anymore, so now you contradict yourself, can he deliver or does he need to dominate the ball to deliver?? 12th in the league when you play with 2 of the best finisher in the league is not GOOD NOT GOOD AT ALL You don't even make sense...WOW get out of her, lebron made the dumbest mistake ever and kobe never
@thesniper321 Kobe shoots more but LBJ's still outscores him. LBJ's was runner up for defensive player of the yr twice n Kobe not even once! LBJ's has 2 reg season MVP awards n Kobe only has 1 even though he's been in the NBA EIGHT yrs longer than LBJ's. LBJ's is the youngest All Star MVP in NBA history at just 21 yrs old. He carried the Cavs to the finals at just 22 yrs old. He's the youngest player in NBA history hit 40 points at just 19 yrs old. All LBJ's does is break Kobe's records LOL
@thesniper321 N stop bringing up Wade n Bosh like he had them for his whole career. If the tables were turned n LBJ's played with Shaq in his prime or if he had three 7 footers like Odom, Bynum, n Gasol or one of the best defenders in the league like Artest he would win mad fkn titles. Let Kobe play with Gibson, Varejao, n Ilgauskas n he won't do shit! BTW look up LBJ's breaks Kobe's ankles. If they came in the NBA at the same time we wouldn't even be having this discussion so shut the fuck up!
how does lebron juice taste? I'm just curious, lol at this dude lmaoooo, did I hurt the image of your hero , your savior, your god??
lol at this fanboy, talking about brainless people.....That's priceless I need to post your comment on my facebook sorry but you're gonna be our laugh stock for the month
@thesniper321 U can't quote me on one biased ass quote can u dick breath? Ur just mad cause u can't come back with n e thing that proves that Kobe is a better player than LBJ's so u try to say "oh ima post this up on fb" I don't give a fuck if all ur fb friends think it's funny. Ppl think Snooki is hot but she's fat n ugly. U said LBJ's is a quitter even tho Kobe did the same in 06. U said LBJ's goes on live TV to get traded yet Kobe went live on ESPN saying he wants to leave LA. HYPOCRITE!!!
@Bones87ish Get his dick out of your ass. Also, he FELL when he "broke Kobe's ankles." Just saying. Another thing: All of your records don't mean a thing if you can't take home the hardware. He's arrogant, and that's my problem with him. You'll probably make some stupid ignorant response, and that's fine. Just know that any sensible person knows whether they'll admit it or not that Kobe will ALWAYS be better than LeBron.
@GuyNamedCarl Yea Kobe tripped over LBJ's crossover lol. N u wanna say "He's arrogant." Even tho when Kobe makes a shot he'd run down the court acting like an airplane n when Bynum said the Lakers were having trust issues Kobe's response was, "What do i care." Well he should have cared cause they got swept. What do u call that? Ur just biased. "All of ur records don't mean a thing if u can't take home the hardware." Oh i'm sorry i thought this was a TEAM sport.
@GuyNamedCarl This is an individual topic so his records do count. Yes u play to get a ring but that's a TEAM award. U can't win a ring on ur own n believe me Kobe knows about that. Up until last yr LBJ's has never had a good team. LBJ's meant more to the Cavs than Kobe does to LA. Kobe could leave LA right now n they'll still make the playoffs. When LBJ's was with the Cavs he took them to the finals at 22 yrs old. Now the Cavs set a NBA recorded for most consecutive loses the 1st yr without him
@thesniper32 N how long was it before Kobe wanted to be traded once Shaq left? He quit in game 7 against the Suns (something that ppl say LBJ's did but Kobe did the same thing) Kobe shot the ball only 3 times in the 2nd half scoring only ONE point off a technical shot n then after that goes on ESPN n says live that he wants to be traded. Hmm sounds familiar but the only difference is that LBJ's stuck with his sorry team for 7 yrs unlike Kobe.
QUIT hugging lebron nuts kobe never went as far as making a special television show it s just too disrespectful for the people cheering for you; so end of the debate lebron is an idiot a quitter and an arrogant bum who think he's the center of the universe, what did he say last year when dallas kicked his ass after one more disapearance? "At the end of the day I will still e enjoying my life while you will still live you miserable one??" YEAH kobe also did that? I don't think so
@thesniper321 If ur going to quote someone u might wanna do it word for word cause LBJ's didn't say that. What did Kobe say to Bynum's response about trust issues. Kobe: "What do i care what he says, who cares if there's trust issues" Well he should have cared cause he ended up getting swept
@thesniper321 N LBJ's left cause he was tired of carrying a team for 7 yrs. He took them to have the best record in the NBA n he took them to the finals at just 22 yrs old something that Kobe could never say he did cause when he was 22 yrs old he was the one being carried by Shaq. Now tell me this. Y did Kobe want to get traded? N u say LBJ's quit. What do u call Kobe's performance in 06 against the Suns? U fkn hypocrite!
you guys complain him shooting too much and now in this vid you complain about him passing too much. Kobe now is like "fuck you guys, i'll stick to shooting"
@questawockeez824 Dribble penetrate is trying but playing hot potato like lebron did in the finals is two different things. Kobe did the lebron show in this video
@mingler22 Cause he was Shaq's bitch three yrs in a row. N btw Kobe has never won a championship without a good center n when he won his last 2 he had THREE 7 footers
@TheCombativeMarine That is true, and I'm not trying to make excuses, but Kobe had a much poorer supporting cast around him during his prime years. I mean, Smush, Luke, Kwame as 30+mpg starters? Just in my opinion, I believe that Lebron had enough help there to win a ring. The Cavs would always coast the regular season, but choked during the playoffs. After the losses to the Magic and Celtics, everyone labelled Lebron as a choker.
No one will question his skill, work ethic, or overall talent, but when you are paired with another superstar and champion in Dwayne wade and one hell of a supporting cast, and dont deliver in time of need the the question of desire, heart, and all others concerning that aspect must be ask.
What is the point of this video? The lakers ended up in the nba finals three consecutive seasons, two of which they brought home the title. In regard to lebron, People feel its time for him to make good on all the praise he has been receiving since before he entered the league, And nothing short of an nba title will suffice.
" That system worked great and AS A TEAM that's how they got the 1 seed all those years."
No it didn't. Shut down LeBron and you beat the Cavaliers. Look at how the Spurs in the 07 Finals and the Celtics in the 10' ECSF guarded LeBron. They had multiple defenders guarding him when he attacked or caught the ball. Opposing defences paid no attention to those one dimensional shooters who don't have the ability to create a shot for themselves. LeBron carried the Cavaliers.
" Shaq needed Kobe, just as much as Kobe needed Shaq. "
I just said that Kobe was Shaq's sidekick. Plain and simple.
" You said Kobe shot them out of games. Well I didn't see that, when Kobe saved the Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, when SHAQ FOULED OUT!!! "
You're admitting that you cherry pick certain moments ? To me that defines a career with many flaws. Can I say that I " didn't see " LeBron's Game Five against Boston and continue on rambling ? You have not adressed the topic.
" Lebron is a great player no doubt, but Kobe hit a game winner in Lebron's face as well. Handed Lebron his only loss at home in the 2009 season, while busting two clutch shots in his face and hitting him with the 5 step shuffle and then busting his ass, just like when he dunked on him in 2011 ASG "
You call this an arguement ? Then I guess this YT video weakens your position too;
@yuch1102 Ur fkn retard Jordan is the best player to ever play the game. Jordan has only been in the league for 14 seasons n he still has more points than Kobe who's going into his 16th season. Kobe has never won a championship without a center n til this day LBJ's has never had a good center on his team
@stevebballin1 ok first off, before you want to make a point to someone, there is no reason for your to insult me with "ur fucking retarded", now I won't even read what you wrote. kobe is arguably the best player ever to play, and i said, "he is one of the best, if not the best." i am entitled to my opinion, so goodbye.
all excuses, maybe you should watch Mike's commercial what he thinks about excuses, you might think I hate Lebron..I dont I LOVE watching him play, he is with out a doubt the most talented player the L has ever seen, but he isnt quite reaching his potential, and that is sick because he is a beast on the court,if he'd get his head right he would win a tonof championships, I would love to see that, he is the only player that has the potential to be where Mike is that is why its frustrating to me.
@tabkitchen1983 that poor little fella broke Kobe's ankles n hit a game winner in his face. Some poor little fella huh. Not to mention Magic Johnson aka greatest Laker of all time said LBJ's is better n Jerry West the person responsible for Kobe being a Laker said LBJ's is better
@Bones87ish Kobe has 5 chamionships while Lebron has to pay 5 grand a session to his therapist for his confindence issues...until he closes out big games he isn't even in KB's league, you make stupid points that happen in the reg season, who cares...we all know the REAL season doesn't start till June
@tabkitchen1983 Alright how bout this. LBJ's has been in the league for 8 yrs n he already scored 17,362 points. When Kobe hit his 8th yr in the league he only scored 12,215 points. LBJ's scored over 5000 MORE points than Kobe did when they both had the exact same amount of yrs in the league. Do u honestly believe if they both came in the league at the same time we would even be having this discussion? Come on man haha
@Bones87ish o wow so then LBJ will be another Dominique Wilkins who can score alot of points but never won a championship, got love for Nique but he is a top 10 player. I dont know why I argue with you he isnt even the best player on his team- LOL- at least D-Wade knows how to get it done :)
@tabkitchen1983 How is he not the best player in the team when he lead the Heat in EVERYTHING except for blocks. Not to mention LBJ's was the leader in the series against Philly, Bos, n Chi. N all of a sudden once the finals come around he's not? Not to mention they lost in the finals to the same team that SWEPT the Lakers
@Bones87ish D-Wade hit bigs shots down the stretch while Lebron sat back and watch his team lose the Finals without even trying, because he has some sort of issues, I dont know what they are but he looked scared of the ball, and your gonna tell me that you want the leader of your team to be scared to take the big shots? ummm probably not, I nver seen MJ or Kobe or any big time player scared of the ball in big moments, not a finisher...maybe he should talk to Tebow LOL
@tabkitchen1983 Ummm like i said what do u call Kobe's performance in game 7 against the Suns when he only took THREE shots in the 2nd half scoring only ONE point off a technical shot. N remember in game 4 when D Wade had a chance to win the game in Dallas but bounced the ball off his foot n the ball went out of bounds ruining n e chance of them winning that game. N e ways what did ppl say after that? Not a damn thing. U know as well as i do if LBJ's did that ppl would shit all over him
@Bones87ish you prove my point with the D-wade missing that shot...he wasnt scared to take that shot...Lebron is SCARED to take that shot, that is the difference between great players and legendary players, when the stage gets upped to the Finals he gets scared and loses all confidence, he goes from Michael Jordan in the Reg season to some scrub on the bench in the finals. Jordan said it best, he has failed so much but that is why he suceeds...same with Kobe yeah he has failed but he suceeds
@tabkitchen1983 Ok with that said Kobe's going on his 16th yr in the league. LBJ's still has more than enough time. N btw Wade didn't even take the shot. He didn't get the chance cause the ball bounced off his foot. If Kobe n LBJ's came in the league at the same time i swear this discussion would not even be taking place haha
@Bones87ish Not to mention Michael Jordan aka the greatest basketball player of all saying Kobe is better? Trump card right there. Bottom line, you don't hear commentators and analysts mentioning how clutch Lebron is in crunch time. How many shots in the clutch, not even including the finals, did Lebron miss this season? Btw, search up Kobe game winner on Lebron- happens to everyone.
@Bernankeful So what Magic Johnson aka the greatest Laker to play the game said LBJ's is better n Jerry West aka a former Laker himself n the person responsible for Kobe being a Laker also said LBJ's is better. N of course it happens to everyone but that's not my point. My point is that he has a higher clutch percentage than Kobe does. Kobe's in his 16th season in the NBA of course he's going to have more HL's of him hitting game winners.
@Bones87ish Firstly, it is debatable whether Magic is the greatest Laker. Start a thread, and many people would say Kobe. That's simply just your opinion. Jerry West may have said that, but go search up interviews with other GM's and coaches that state Kobe is better. Of course that's true, but by Kobe's 8th season he had a reputation for being clutch and delivering in crunch time- he was a beast. What do people say about Lebron? Quitter? Choker? no fourth quarter?
@MerkinMuffly idiot kobe may have a bad day or series but how many has lebron had against boston twice and he had 4 straight fourth quarters with two points or less against dallas lebron chokes on a yearly basis in the playoffs that was once on kobe's part just like u asshole lebron fans to find any excuse to make lebron's performance sound acceptable bloody mother fuckers
he had good reason to "quit", they were up 3-1 and lost that, which is very rare and a good sign of the team's mental state in general. kobe had a previous outing against the suns where he scored 50 pts with no help and they still comfortably lost. this was a statement game- that his teammates weren't good enough.
this guy is one of the most competitive athletes ever, his frustration is understandable at a team that was going nowhere but down, i think smush parker was the pg for christ's sake
Anyone can make arguments on all sides of the spectrum in this conversation, bottom line KB24 has 5 championship rings in which he was a huge part in everyone of them, that is undistputed. You don't have 5 rings by quitting on your team, if you believe this, you don't know sports
" The 2002 Finals, in the fourth quarter, who had all the clutch plays not to mention shooting 51.4% from the field and have the best clutch performance down the stretch in that whole playoffs dickhead? "
Shaquille O'Neal = 36 PPG, 12 RPG, 3 APG and 59 FG%
Kobe Bryant = 26 PPG, 5 RPG, 5 APG and 51 FG%
Bottom line ; Kobe was Shaq's sidekick throughout his tenure in LA. Shaq won MVP's, Finals MVP's, averaged more points, rebounds and win shares [ Defensively + Offensively ].
Stats are important but in basketball you stats have to do with your place at the right time. Oscar Robinson's stats are better than Magic Johnson, but is he a better PG than Magic? No. And the greatest stat of all is championships. So if we're talking about who's the greatest of all time or who's better than who, then Bill Russell is better than everybody he has 11 championships.....but does that make him the greatest, cause he's got the "stats"?
Shaq needed Kobe, just as much as Kobe needed Shaq. You said Kobe shot them out of games. Well I didn't see that, when Kobe saved the Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, when SHAQ FOULED OUT!!! And without Kobe, in Game 4, the Lakers lost by 30. Or in the 2002 Finals when all they did was Hack-A-Shaq(which contributed to the bulk of Shaq's points, not his inside scoring) it was Kobe's 51.4 % that kept NJ at bay. And i've never seen a sidekick win more championship or a championship w/o the hero
I really shouldn't have to explain the difference in between the 2010 Finals and Lebron's game 5 performance, because 1st of all the Lakers won the series lol. 2nd Lebron's 3-14 performance resulting in Shaq having the highest points on the team that night in a 32 point blowout assclown. Kobe still lead the team in scoring that night and had 15 rebounds. And Kobe never let a team blow him out by 32 in the playoffs on his home floor, when being the number 1 seed in the Western Conf. EVER!!!!
" In the 2001 Finals, who scored the most points for the team? "
Kobe has also shot his team out of many games. You remember the 04 Finals ? But thats besides the point. Here's the 01 Finals comparision for Shaq and Kobe ;
@T82486 how is this not a off game.. after this game he went home and said hey guys i went 3-15 today.. and everybody congradulates him.. NO!!! he played like ass and they got blown out.. its that simple.. you take the best player from any team and they go 3-15 do you really expect them to win that game.. use common sense now.. i think lebron is the best player.. no rings soo.. the thropy goes to the best team.. not player.. isnt that wat the mvp is for anyways..
kobe first became known as clutch when he went out in the 2000 finals and won it in game 4 to take a 3-1 for the lakers when shaw got fouled out. LLebron is 27 , and he still hasn't won a ring, and he only scored 8 points in a whole finals game and 10 points in the both fourth quartes of game 4 and 5 this year. so stfu.
It's funny to me, you have no life lol, you spend your time to make a video about kobe, everyone misses clutch shots magic johnson is called clutch cause of his one famous shot against the boston celtics, michael jordan missed some clutch shots, so has tim duncan. The list goes on, but its funny how you don't mention the shots kobe has made, need i remind you of the 7 gamewinners he made in the 09-10 season, kobe is indeed very cllutch, And he's obviously more clutch then lebron,
as you can see,there LOTS of dislikes! BUT YET The Top Comments prove this Video right! And are on the same Page as the Uploaders Mind! Conclusion:
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lets all go cry bc kobe quit in one playoff series ahhhhh! How many lebron quit in? Im not hating on him either i like lebron, jus hate ppl who worship him and thinks he is close to MJ....
And how quickly Merkin forget Bird's embarrassing no-show in game 6 of the 1987 Finals. Barely showed, didn't hit double figures until the Lakers had seized control of the game, basically a non-factor. And where was Bird when the Bucks were sweeping in 1983 I wonder? And that sucky performance in '88 vs the Pistons--gets swept under the rug, right? Don't buy the 'older is better' crap guys. None of these players are/were flawless.
I bet anyone would wanna quit on a team which came back from 3-1 to 3-4 and then ended up losing by 20 at the half... the guy played his ass off till that half, no way was his team gonna come back. Nd I don't blame Kobe for that, blame the coach for not keeping his team in check in game 5,6 and 7.
by the way, this is persianking. the owner of this video blocked me from commenting on any of his videos because he's a sourpuss celtics fan (just click on his profile and you'll see why he makes these videos). he also makes "why jordan is overrated" videos. it's pretty sad how he censors the comment sections in his videos.
you're just throwing random tidbits of facts here pretending they mean something. kobe in no way gave up on his team during the playoffs this year. bynum calling the team out for having trust issues PUBLICLY was stupid as fuck anyway. kobe is a class act, you don't call out the team like that. and i would HIGHLY disagree with saying that cavaliers team had no talent, and you're just straight up wrong if you believe that that team had less talent than the lakers 2004-2007.
@basedoverlordswag Alright put it this way LBJ's has been in the NBA for 8 yrs now n he's already scored 17,362 points. When Kobe hit his 8th yr in the league he only scored 12,215 pints. That's over 5000 MORE points. How does that not mean n e thing? Yeah Kobe has 5 rings but did he win those championships on his own? NO! Kobe has never won a championship without a dominant center n til this day LBJ's has never had a good center on his team.
Quit speaking, you just made up facts and looked like an idiot. How can Kobe have 26k in his 14th season and only have 12k in his 8th. Lmao, the more you speak the more you lose credibility. Quit spamming me, its not that serious. And why are u even arguing, lebron still has no rings either way, so STFU troll
@Bones87ish Even my bad, Kobe doesnt even have 26k, just checked nba site and Kobe has a total career pts of 27, 868. Now you know youre a lieng, faggot. How can he score 15k points in 6 seasons. Dumb shit
@lmaostrnoob U dumb fuck i didn't say in total bitch pay more attention to my post. I said when Kobe hit his EIGHT yr the same amount of yrs that LBJ's has in the league now Kobe only scored 12,215 points in his EIGHT YR. EIGHT YR. EIGHT YR. Got it now dumb fuck! As for LBJ's he already scored 17,362 points in his EIGHT YR
@Bones87ish Quit speaking little dumb fucking troll, no one gives a fuck how many he scored in his 8th season, the bitch still has 0 rings. Lmao what an idiot payign attention to some random ass statistic that has no relevance to Lebron sucking dick in the finals. 2.2 avg in the 4th and he's clutch? LOOOL
L. Hughes- 15ppg; Ilgaskaus 12ppg, Drew Gooden 12ppg, Gibson 10ppg, Pavlovic 9ppg.............. good point :) they had some balance but no good second option, Hughes never really developed into what was hoped (Pippen). But they did only go 50-32, detroit that year was 53-29 if it was the West they would have been 5th. You got a point, Im just saying that the EAst was seriously weak that year, check for yourself. h007
pennybubba 1 day ago
what is that music in the background!!!
pennybubba 1 day ago
you guys say hes a ballhog he passes it then what o he gave up huh
empowerme1 2 days ago
I THINK THZ QUEER MENT LEBRON LAST I LOOKED KOBE STILL A LAKER
TheRep910 1 week ago
This song is cracking me the hell up while watching all this
LastExile25 1 week ago
People act like Kobe was the team.... None of those faggots in the line up would ever even start for a team except for Kobe. When everyone left in 2004 and Kobe was the only one left from the original team the Lakers organization did nothing to try to rebuild. They gave him a crap team with crap potential and expected him to do it all. A burden no one can say Jordan ever had since his team was basically the same every year. Kobe didn't quit on the Lakers the Lakers quit on Kobe and he knew it.
Mannyfrom213 1 week ago 4
@Mannyfrom213 Really? Lamar Odom, Bynum, Derek Fisher wouldn't start? Better check that roster again, lmao.
MerkinMuffly 1 week ago 4
@MerkinMuffly
Derek Fisher most certainly did leave. Lamar Odom wasn't on the Lakers, and Bynum was still in high school.
You better stop being a faggot right this instant.
BullshitsJohn 1 week ago
@MerkinMuffly Bynum injuried, then you got a inconsisten odom, chris mimh, kwame brown, aging fisher, smush parker, sasha, mo evans, turiah, valdi... wtf
kimbobrand7 6 days ago
@Mannyfrom213 Taking 3 shots in the second half of an elimination game is quitting. You love the guy. But how can you defend this? How often do you see Kobe pack it in during a game? Never, he's always been a competitor and loves late game situations, this game he quit. Easy.
AJVersatility19 1 week ago
@Mannyfrom213 Loll what about the team in cleveland that went to the finals in 07...name the second best player on that team..........its ok I'll wait
qnzflyguyJ 2 days ago
Kobe is better than MJ so, cant say anything
VeriniFilms 1 week ago
@VeriniFilms Biggest lie ever. Kobe wishes he was better then Michael Jordan. He never will be
lonestarr900 1 week ago
Oh man, how hard it is to suit the haters, if he shoots 81 - he is a ballhog, if he passes around they start to question his greatness, well, there is a guy who averages almost a tripple-double and can't close the game like ever, and he is considered to be the best player of today. Modern fans are so logical... I swear if those morons had internet and stuff in th 80-90's MJ would never be a legend, he would be a ballhog who got lucky to have Pippen and Rodman to help him win it all.
noopz0r 2 weeks ago
@noopz0r your logic is flawed too. kobe is more efficient when hes a ball hog so him overly passing the ball just doesnt help his team and gives the impression that he doesnt care. lebron however is super effective as a distributor and getting his teammates involved so him passing the ball in late game situations isnt necessarily a bad thing.
notae5 1 week ago
@notae5 My logic goes like that, prime Kobe was better than prime LeBron, and here's why, when Kobe was in his prime, there was no one on the same level, when LeBron is in his prime he is still compared to Kobe who is older, to D. Wade, Durant, Rose etc. moreover, LBJ is a SF, I don't really care if he has 3 or 10 assists a game, he is a superstar who is gonna' be all-time great, he needs to win rings to prove that, his assist total would be a nice addition but not the main factor.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@noopz0r i never said anything about lebron or kobes rings though. you went the cheap route and played the ring card when it wasnt relevant to what we're talking about. we were talking about the players individual game styles, not whether or not they have won rings. rings are part of the discussion in the long run but in terms of physical ability i believe lebron is better then kobe but ill concede that kobes clutch and shooting abilities far surpass lebron. but lebron makes his team better
notae5 1 week ago
@notae5 You missed the point, rings is what brings a great player to the list of greatest, MJ was great but would he be the GOAT if he had no rings? The answer is NO. Same goes for Magic and Kobe, rings made them the best to play the game, right now LeBron is a super-star, but when his career ends at some point his greatness will be evaluated by rings, if he doesn't get any, believe me no one will put him in the same category as the listed above.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@notae5 Again, LBJ has outstanding combo of given and developed talents, but, this whole "making everyone better" is getting old, MJ made Bulls better and gave them 6 championships, Kobe made his squad 2 time back-to-back champions and also was an essential piece of the three-year run with Shaq, this is "making everyone better". LeBron never passed serious test in the playoffs with his teams, neither Cavs, nor Miami. When he does I'll be the first to admit and recognize his greatness.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@noopz0r he never passed serious test in the playoffs? the 2007 team he took to the finals pretty much on his own? that squad was mediocre and his performance against the pistons especially in game 5 was crazy did you see the drop off in the cavs after he left. one player made the difference between the best record in the east and the worst record in the nba. all of the teams kobe won with could have been playoff caliber teams without him but they surely wouldnt have won anything.
notae5 1 week ago
@notae5 Just in case you might think something, I'm not a hater, but when I said serious I meant business, Kobe failed in playoffs os multiple occasions but he came back to win, LeBron definately made a team out of the Cavs, but he never made them champions, and during his MVP runs that team was capable of winning, they had best record in the league, they were playing great.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@notae5 What I wanted to say all along is that Kobe is in a higher league than LBJ at the moment, he never had LeBron's talents and size, however his jumpshot and moves allow him to score at will eventhough he is playing through injuries pretty much all the time. Just imagine that this LeBron is facing prime Kobe, man, it's no chance for LBJ, no offense, but no one can guard Kobe, Ray Allen probably can, but still Kobe can score 40+ with perfect D by him.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@noopz0r One question. Since when is Ray Allen, out of all people in the NBA, a good enough defender to hold down one of the best scorers the game has ever seen? Yes, they had their battle back in the day but he's 1. no where near the athlete he used to be and 2. not known to be a "lock-down" defender.
UNCDYNASTY1993 1 week ago
@UNCDYNASTY1993 I don't know about "known" but in the FInals, Ray really played great D on Kobe, if you remember, first time Boston won the Finals, and the second time eventhough they lost, Ray did a really good job on limiting Kobe's contribution. It's all about that particular matchup, I'm not saying Allen is the best defender, but against Kobe he played very well.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@notae5 There is a nothing wrong with LBJ however, it's just people want him to be a person he is not, if all along he would be recognized as a perfect playmaker and not a closer, which he never was, he would be fine, the problem with Mike Brown was that he always relied on James, as if Mo was not capable of making a shot, the team needed to realize that James was giving them a boost which they had to close by themselves in the 4th quarter, Brown does the same in LA right now...
noopz0r 1 week ago
@notae5 And again, let's get back to the Beijing, if not for Kobe and D. Wade, this exact team with LBJ on it, maybe would have made it to the Finals, but would never win against Spain, D. Wade carried them to the Finals, Kobe sealed the deal in the Finals. So my point is, stats is a nice thing when they follow up the results, if you are ringless it all looks like lame excuse, by this logic MJ was worse than LBJ, which is nonsense.
noopz0r 1 week ago
@notae5 dont even say lebron is better than kobe mate
VeriniFilms 1 week ago
the thing with Kobe is when he tries to get his team involved, he gets a ton of assists but is so reluctant to shoot the ball because of just that. When he wants to get others a chance he doesn't shoot, period. Nothing wrong with that because he's still the best player in the game.
DonCorleone87 2 weeks ago
So when Kobe listens to the haters & passes he "quit" but if he went off he's a ball hog that needs to pass more smh lol the man is always ina lose lose situation.
LouiepMusic 2 weeks ago
@LouiepMusic Everybody knows he quit because he was getting heavily criticized for not using his teammates so he made it a point to not shoot the ball and then he demanded a trade after the season but he ended up staying because they pulled off the trade of the decade and got Pau Gasol.
wb1227 2 weeks ago
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1227weaverb 3 weeks ago
In triangle offense you have to run and fill spot if you pass the ball and just stand still, you clearly quit the game.
TheLucifer69 3 weeks ago
so this is what happens when kobe passes the ball you faggots so stfu
TheBigdaddypickle 3 weeks ago
He wasn't quitting. He was passing the ball.
Who knew you had to be a ball hog to show you care about the team? I didn't.
JTKvid 4 weeks ago
@JTKvid he kept passing when passing obviously wasn't working. you don't have to blindly follow one superstar, you can watch and enjoy the NBA for what it is.
i mean just watch this video. he fucking sucked in this game.
datfunkyfresh 3 weeks ago
three years later kobe raped the phoenix suns in game 6 of the western conference finals... in phoenix....on his way to his fifth ring.....lebron quit on his team last year in the finals....this video is invalid
mrshizno91 1 month ago
you should watch /watch?v=hjTm2Dl1bTo&feature=related and you'll understand what happened better :)
iLoveMusicQ8 1 month ago
This video would've been alright if that excuse of a song wasn't playing in the background.
Zangetsu1435 1 month ago
what a terrible background song!
sundojjang 1 month ago
well that sucks to loss by a huge margin in a do or die in game 7 but hell who cares after 3 western conforence chamionship and 2 nba titles no one's give a shit about this stupid video past is past it happened a long time ago :-)
thejohhny69 1 month ago
Damn what the hell, Kobe gets hate on everything. If he passes the ball, its labeled as giving up on the team. If he scores, its labeled as ballhog and selfish. Haters are everywhere. Of course, I'm going to say this series Kobe didn't put much effort after game 4 but people need to stop hating on him taking all the shots, he's earned and deserved it so if he isn't passing as much and jacking up shots, he has the right to. Oh yeah, he's led the lakers in assists for a while now haters
-Lakergang
LdreamerA 1 month ago
big laker fan but i was so pissed when he did this, then asks for a fucking trade later, goddammit, he was trying to prove a point that they couldn't do it without him when he was being selfish i remember him being injured and we didn't drop a game at one point. before the advent of social media he was tearing the lakers franchise apart with his attitude, top 10 all time but darn it, sometimes i wonder what would have happened if he did get the trade that he wanted, maybe no rings, who knows.
hashlines 1 month ago
hey at least he didnt leave though haha
TheBigdaddypickle 1 month ago
this is what happens when kobe passes the ball XD
TheBigdaddypickle 1 month ago
kobe 5 rings.... nuff said :)
oOwillayOo 1 month ago
kobe sucks, deal with it
gotohellpunk 1 month ago
@gotohellpunk no YOU suck
fic1990 1 month ago
still doesn't top LeChoke
sznj94 1 month ago
@sznj94 Have you seen Kobe's playoff stats. It looks like something from a Special Needs game(No offense to them).
sambam2694 1 month ago
@sambam2694 um... not sure what you're referring to there. But Kobe averages 25.4PPG in the playoffs so...
hemorrmage 1 month ago
@sznj94 kobe travelled
gotohellpunk 1 month ago
he was trying to get the team started he cant do everything by him self
9mxd 1 month ago
As a Lakers fan, this series and this game always pissed me off for what COULD have been. But you know what? Five years later, Kobe and the Lakers have two championships and the Suns never even sniffed the Finals. So in the end, I'm quite pleased about how history turned out.
baronvg 1 month ago
LOL kobe put up 50 in game 6 and Lakers lost in OT... They should've won... Then the Suns are right on the edge of winning... You can't beat the Suns with the 2006 Lakers in a game 7... Especially since they were a 60 win team
Lakers24pwnz 1 month ago
suns!
prasad604 1 month ago
FUCK THE HATERSSSSSS
jackedshit 1 month ago
steve nash just looks ugly
824kblakers 1 month ago
You're the same idiot who criticizes Kobe for NOT passing.
atomopina 1 month ago
Ugh, I remember this. What a time to be a Laker fan.
ElChino988 1 month ago
the background music is annoying
wispyflame 1 month ago
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wispyflame 1 month ago
I didnt forget about this.
rubenmonroy4 1 month ago
Kobe was in a fight with phil couse he sad that they dont need kobe to win well he showed them..
muka2mukallo 1 month ago
@muka2mukallo
Is that really why??? You saying all those missed shots were on purpose?
mhsueh2 1 month ago
atleast kobe didnt quit his team and ask for a trade like lebron...
NBA2K11FIFA11 1 month ago
@NBA2K11FIFA11 Kobe did quit on his team and then ask for a trade /watch?v=f9FamHwZfvg
KingJames1871 1 month ago
@NBA2K11FIFA11 lebron didnt get traded, he left in free agency because he had no second option
LeatherBootz 1 month ago
@NBA2K11FIFA11 Yes he did. Just type in Kobe wants to leave LA. N the difference with Kobe is that he only had a sorry ass team for a bit n he still had Odom. LBJ's stood with the sorry ass Cavs for 7 fkn yrs before he decided to leave.
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
kobe didn't make a nationaly televised show to spit on the face of a city where he was a god so chill, btw i'm a kobe hater.
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 LBJ's stuck with the sorry ass Cavs for 7 yrs n took them to the finals at just 22 yrs old. Kobe only had a weak ass team for how long before he went live on espn saying that he wants to leave LA? N Kobe still had Odom in 06
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
sorry ass? quit hugging his nuts, he wanted an all star they give him larry hugues, lebron tendency to hold th ball killed hugues, then they give him ben wallace, then shaq, then antawn jamison, kobe asked his team a move or a trade the team made moves, what about lebron? And like I said KOBE NEVER MADE A NATIONALY OR EVEN INTERNATIONALY TELEVISED SHOW TO SPIT ON THE FACE OF A WHOLE CITY, if you want a trade JUST ASK IT LIKE EVERYBODY who the hell lebron thought he was??
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 "Shaq" in 2000 averaged 29.7 ppg n 13.6 rpg. In01 he averaged 28.7 ppg n 12.7 rpg. In 02 he averaged 27.2 ppg n 10.7 rpg. Those are his #'s in the yrs of the 3peat. Now here's what "Shaquille O'neal" averaged with the Cavs 5 yrs after he left LA. 12.6 ppg n 6.7 rpg. After 7 yrs of dedication to the Cavs n being responsible for taking them to the finals for the 1st time in franchise history at just 22 yrs old the best player they give him is a shell of his former self O'neal!!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
dude why the hell are you bringing shaq stat who give a SHIT? Cleveland gave everything he wanted to lebron, I don't care if he wants a trade why not, BUT WHY SPIT ON THE FACE OF A WHOLE CITY ON TV WHY?? WHY?? You still haven't responded to my question and you avoid it cuz YOU KNOW this the DIFFERENCE between kobe and lebron. And lol at lebron ability to pass DUDE HAD THE BALL IN HIS HAND 99% of the time.
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 I brought up Shaq's stats cause u were making it seem like he was still a force when he went to Cleveland n bringing up his stats only proved how stupid it was for u to bring him up. I could do the same for Ben Wallace who averaged 4.7 points a game. N i'll tell u y he left Cleveland. Cause LBJ's stuck with that sorry ass team for 7 yrs n took them to the finals for the 1st time in franchise history at just 22 yrs old n regardless of what ur dumbass says he didn't get shit!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@thesniper321 N LBJ's is also one of the best in the league at assisting his teammates. His ability to assists is the ONLY reason why Mo Williams made the All Star team. Tell me where was Mo Williams at before n after he played with LBJ's. LBJ's meant more to Cleveland than Kobe does to the Lakers. Kobe could leave LA n they'll still make the playoffs. As soon as LBJ's left Cleveland they set an NBA record for the most consecutive loses LOL.
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
And mo is still averaging 10ppg while pwith others players who need the ball with only 26 mpg, this made and average of 18ppg per 35mpg which was his average with cleveland also mo was already averaging 17ppg BEFORE coming to cleveland SO WHERE the fuck is THE LEBRON JAMES EFFECT??? lol
like I said QUIT HUGGING HIS FUCKING NUTS
thesniper321 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
and to cut your crap about lebron supposed ability to deliver, allen iverson WHO IS my fave player was one of the biggest ballhogger but he still averaged more than 8apg some seasons... why???=> he always had the ball in his hands.....just like mister james how strange???
So shut up now you're only repeating what the media are saying about lebron without analysing what's really happening on the court. that comment on mo proved me your ignorance get away from here lebron lil bitch!!
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 N cut the crap about LBJ's ability to deliver? He was only 12th in assists last yr along with being 2nd in the league in scoring behind Durant. See the difference dick breath? N Wade n Bosh don't compare to, Shaq, Malone, Payton, Artest, Bynum, Gasol, n Odom. How is Kobe a better scorer if he shoots the ball MORE but LBJ's still OUTSCORES him? LBJ's is 12th in assists don't u dare try to say Kobe is better at assisting. N LBJ's was runner up for defensive player of the yr twice!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
12th in the league is great now ??? wasn't he 6th in cleveland? just to show how he fell once he couldn't dominate the ball anymore, so now you contradict yourself, can he deliver or does he need to dominate the ball to deliver?? 12th in the league when you play with 2 of the best finisher in the league is not GOOD NOT GOOD AT ALL You don't even make sense...WOW get out of her, lebron made the dumbest mistake ever and kobe never
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 Kobe shoots more but LBJ's still outscores him. LBJ's was runner up for defensive player of the yr twice n Kobe not even once! LBJ's has 2 reg season MVP awards n Kobe only has 1 even though he's been in the NBA EIGHT yrs longer than LBJ's. LBJ's is the youngest All Star MVP in NBA history at just 21 yrs old. He carried the Cavs to the finals at just 22 yrs old. He's the youngest player in NBA history hit 40 points at just 19 yrs old. All LBJ's does is break Kobe's records LOL
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@thesniper321 N stop bringing up Wade n Bosh like he had them for his whole career. If the tables were turned n LBJ's played with Shaq in his prime or if he had three 7 footers like Odom, Bynum, n Gasol or one of the best defenders in the league like Artest he would win mad fkn titles. Let Kobe play with Gibson, Varejao, n Ilgauskas n he won't do shit! BTW look up LBJ's breaks Kobe's ankles. If they came in the NBA at the same time we wouldn't even be having this discussion so shut the fuck up!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
how does lebron juice taste? I'm just curious, lol at this dude lmaoooo, did I hurt the image of your hero , your savior, your god??
lol at this fanboy, talking about brainless people.....That's priceless I need to post your comment on my facebook sorry but you're gonna be our laugh stock for the month
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 Those are all facts dumb fuck. Plz quote me on one of my post that's just my biased opinion. Just one.
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@thesniper321 U can't quote me on one biased ass quote can u dick breath? Ur just mad cause u can't come back with n e thing that proves that Kobe is a better player than LBJ's so u try to say "oh ima post this up on fb" I don't give a fuck if all ur fb friends think it's funny. Ppl think Snooki is hot but she's fat n ugly. U said LBJ's is a quitter even tho Kobe did the same in 06. U said LBJ's goes on live TV to get traded yet Kobe went live on ESPN saying he wants to leave LA. HYPOCRITE!!!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish Get his dick out of your ass. Also, he FELL when he "broke Kobe's ankles." Just saying. Another thing: All of your records don't mean a thing if you can't take home the hardware. He's arrogant, and that's my problem with him. You'll probably make some stupid ignorant response, and that's fine. Just know that any sensible person knows whether they'll admit it or not that Kobe will ALWAYS be better than LeBron.
GuyNamedCarl 1 month ago
@GuyNamedCarl Yea Kobe tripped over LBJ's crossover lol. N u wanna say "He's arrogant." Even tho when Kobe makes a shot he'd run down the court acting like an airplane n when Bynum said the Lakers were having trust issues Kobe's response was, "What do i care." Well he should have cared cause they got swept. What do u call that? Ur just biased. "All of ur records don't mean a thing if u can't take home the hardware." Oh i'm sorry i thought this was a TEAM sport.
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@GuyNamedCarl This is an individual topic so his records do count. Yes u play to get a ring but that's a TEAM award. U can't win a ring on ur own n believe me Kobe knows about that. Up until last yr LBJ's has never had a good team. LBJ's meant more to the Cavs than Kobe does to LA. Kobe could leave LA right now n they'll still make the playoffs. When LBJ's was with the Cavs he took them to the finals at 22 yrs old. Now the Cavs set a NBA recorded for most consecutive loses the 1st yr without him
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@thesniper32 N how long was it before Kobe wanted to be traded once Shaq left? He quit in game 7 against the Suns (something that ppl say LBJ's did but Kobe did the same thing) Kobe shot the ball only 3 times in the 2nd half scoring only ONE point off a technical shot n then after that goes on ESPN n says live that he wants to be traded. Hmm sounds familiar but the only difference is that LBJ's stuck with his sorry team for 7 yrs unlike Kobe.
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
QUIT hugging lebron nuts kobe never went as far as making a special television show it s just too disrespectful for the people cheering for you; so end of the debate lebron is an idiot a quitter and an arrogant bum who think he's the center of the universe, what did he say last year when dallas kicked his ass after one more disapearance? "At the end of the day I will still e enjoying my life while you will still live you miserable one??" YEAH kobe also did that? I don't think so
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 If ur going to quote someone u might wanna do it word for word cause LBJ's didn't say that. What did Kobe say to Bynum's response about trust issues. Kobe: "What do i care what he says, who cares if there's trust issues" Well he should have cared cause he ended up getting swept
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish
AND ANSWER MY QUESTION why the hell did lebron made " THE DECISION"? just tell me
and never compare lebron and kobe again they is huge gap in education between those 2
thesniper321 1 month ago
@thesniper321 N LBJ's left cause he was tired of carrying a team for 7 yrs. He took them to have the best record in the NBA n he took them to the finals at just 22 yrs old something that Kobe could never say he did cause when he was 22 yrs old he was the one being carried by Shaq. Now tell me this. Y did Kobe want to get traded? N u say LBJ's quit. What do u call Kobe's performance in 06 against the Suns? U fkn hypocrite!
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@NBA2K11FIFA11 Um, kobe quit on his team a bunch of times and he asked for a trade at least once
MrJo1414 1 month ago
you guys complain him shooting too much and now in this vid you complain about him passing too much. Kobe now is like "fuck you guys, i'll stick to shooting"
questawockeez824 1 month ago
@questawockeez824 Dribble penetrate is trying but playing hot potato like lebron did in the finals is two different things. Kobe did the lebron show in this video
roll451 1 month ago
@Bones87ish...how can you call Kobe Shaq's bitch if he won 2 of 3 championships w/o him...??...just curious
mingler22 2 months ago
@mingler22 Cause he was Shaq's bitch three yrs in a row. N btw Kobe has never won a championship without a good center n when he won his last 2 he had THREE 7 footers
Bones87ish 1 month ago
@Bones87ish Well i mean it is a team sport.
Redskinsfan1712 1 month ago
what a team player!
miami4championship 2 months ago
he passed the ball though Smh
LILMAYE1 2 months ago
@TheCombativeMarine That is true, and I'm not trying to make excuses, but Kobe had a much poorer supporting cast around him during his prime years. I mean, Smush, Luke, Kwame as 30+mpg starters? Just in my opinion, I believe that Lebron had enough help there to win a ring. The Cavs would always coast the regular season, but choked during the playoffs. After the losses to the Magic and Celtics, everyone labelled Lebron as a choker.
Bernankeful 2 months ago
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lukphillip 2 months ago
No one will question his skill, work ethic, or overall talent, but when you are paired with another superstar and champion in Dwayne wade and one hell of a supporting cast, and dont deliver in time of need the the question of desire, heart, and all others concerning that aspect must be ask.
Me370210 2 months ago
What is the point of this video? The lakers ended up in the nba finals three consecutive seasons, two of which they brought home the title. In regard to lebron, People feel its time for him to make good on all the praise he has been receiving since before he entered the league, And nothing short of an nba title will suffice.
Me370210 2 months ago
" That system worked great and AS A TEAM that's how they got the 1 seed all those years."
No it didn't. Shut down LeBron and you beat the Cavaliers. Look at how the Spurs in the 07 Finals and the Celtics in the 10' ECSF guarded LeBron. They had multiple defenders guarding him when he attacked or caught the ball. Opposing defences paid no attention to those one dimensional shooters who don't have the ability to create a shot for themselves. LeBron carried the Cavaliers.
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
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" Shaq needed Kobe, just as much as Kobe needed Shaq. "
I just said that Kobe was Shaq's sidekick. Plain and simple.
" You said Kobe shot them out of games. Well I didn't see that, when Kobe saved the Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, when SHAQ FOULED OUT!!! "
You're admitting that you cherry pick certain moments ? To me that defines a career with many flaws. Can I say that I " didn't see " LeBron's Game Five against Boston and continue on rambling ? You have not adressed the topic.
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
" Oscar Robinson's stats are better than Magic Johnson, but is he a better PG than Magic? "
Do you bother to do research ? Lets compare the careers of both players;
Oscar Robertson : 25.7 PPG, 9.5 AST, 7.5 RPG, 1.1 STL, 0.1 BLK and 48 FG%
Magic Johnson : 19.5 PPG, 11.2 AST, 7.2 RPG, 1.9 STL, 0.4 BLK and 52 FG%
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
" Lebron is a great player no doubt, but Kobe hit a game winner in Lebron's face as well. Handed Lebron his only loss at home in the 2009 season, while busting two clutch shots in his face and hitting him with the 5 step shuffle and then busting his ass, just like when he dunked on him in 2011 ASG "
You call this an arguement ? Then I guess this YT video weakens your position too;
LeBron James Literally Owns Kobe Bryant.
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
@OneTrueAce mate who are you? Lebron isnt even top 10
VeriniFilms 1 week ago
yet this video proves nothing, because kobe won back to back championships later, and one of the best, if not the best player ever to play the game.
yuch1102 2 months ago
@yuch1102 Ur fkn retard Jordan is the best player to ever play the game. Jordan has only been in the league for 14 seasons n he still has more points than Kobe who's going into his 16th season. Kobe has never won a championship without a center n til this day LBJ's has never had a good center on his team
stevebballin1 2 months ago
@stevebballin1 ok first off, before you want to make a point to someone, there is no reason for your to insult me with "ur fucking retarded", now I won't even read what you wrote. kobe is arguably the best player ever to play, and i said, "he is one of the best, if not the best." i am entitled to my opinion, so goodbye.
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BATWOMANN233 2 months ago
all excuses, maybe you should watch Mike's commercial what he thinks about excuses, you might think I hate Lebron..I dont I LOVE watching him play, he is with out a doubt the most talented player the L has ever seen, but he isnt quite reaching his potential, and that is sick because he is a beast on the court,if he'd get his head right he would win a tonof championships, I would love to see that, he is the only player that has the potential to be where Mike is that is why its frustrating to me.
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
its all excuses on why poor little Lebron can't get over the hump..poor little fella
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
@tabkitchen1983 that poor little fella broke Kobe's ankles n hit a game winner in his face. Some poor little fella huh. Not to mention Magic Johnson aka greatest Laker of all time said LBJ's is better n Jerry West the person responsible for Kobe being a Laker said LBJ's is better
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish Kobe has 5 chamionships while Lebron has to pay 5 grand a session to his therapist for his confindence issues...until he closes out big games he isn't even in KB's league, you make stupid points that happen in the reg season, who cares...we all know the REAL season doesn't start till June
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
@tabkitchen1983 Alright how bout this. LBJ's has been in the league for 8 yrs n he already scored 17,362 points. When Kobe hit his 8th yr in the league he only scored 12,215 points. LBJ's scored over 5000 MORE points than Kobe did when they both had the exact same amount of yrs in the league. Do u honestly believe if they both came in the league at the same time we would even be having this discussion? Come on man haha
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish o wow so then LBJ will be another Dominique Wilkins who can score alot of points but never won a championship, got love for Nique but he is a top 10 player. I dont know why I argue with you he isnt even the best player on his team- LOL- at least D-Wade knows how to get it done :)
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
@tabkitchen1983 How is he not the best player in the team when he lead the Heat in EVERYTHING except for blocks. Not to mention LBJ's was the leader in the series against Philly, Bos, n Chi. N all of a sudden once the finals come around he's not? Not to mention they lost in the finals to the same team that SWEPT the Lakers
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish D-Wade hit bigs shots down the stretch while Lebron sat back and watch his team lose the Finals without even trying, because he has some sort of issues, I dont know what they are but he looked scared of the ball, and your gonna tell me that you want the leader of your team to be scared to take the big shots? ummm probably not, I nver seen MJ or Kobe or any big time player scared of the ball in big moments, not a finisher...maybe he should talk to Tebow LOL
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
@tabkitchen1983 Ummm like i said what do u call Kobe's performance in game 7 against the Suns when he only took THREE shots in the 2nd half scoring only ONE point off a technical shot. N remember in game 4 when D Wade had a chance to win the game in Dallas but bounced the ball off his foot n the ball went out of bounds ruining n e chance of them winning that game. N e ways what did ppl say after that? Not a damn thing. U know as well as i do if LBJ's did that ppl would shit all over him
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish you prove my point with the D-wade missing that shot...he wasnt scared to take that shot...Lebron is SCARED to take that shot, that is the difference between great players and legendary players, when the stage gets upped to the Finals he gets scared and loses all confidence, he goes from Michael Jordan in the Reg season to some scrub on the bench in the finals. Jordan said it best, he has failed so much but that is why he suceeds...same with Kobe yeah he has failed but he suceeds
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
@tabkitchen1983 Ok with that said Kobe's going on his 16th yr in the league. LBJ's still has more than enough time. N btw Wade didn't even take the shot. He didn't get the chance cause the ball bounced off his foot. If Kobe n LBJ's came in the league at the same time i swear this discussion would not even be taking place haha
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish Not to mention Michael Jordan aka the greatest basketball player of all saying Kobe is better? Trump card right there. Bottom line, you don't hear commentators and analysts mentioning how clutch Lebron is in crunch time. How many shots in the clutch, not even including the finals, did Lebron miss this season? Btw, search up Kobe game winner on Lebron- happens to everyone.
Bernankeful 2 months ago
@Bernankeful So what Magic Johnson aka the greatest Laker to play the game said LBJ's is better n Jerry West aka a former Laker himself n the person responsible for Kobe being a Laker also said LBJ's is better. N of course it happens to everyone but that's not my point. My point is that he has a higher clutch percentage than Kobe does. Kobe's in his 16th season in the NBA of course he's going to have more HL's of him hitting game winners.
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish Firstly, it is debatable whether Magic is the greatest Laker. Start a thread, and many people would say Kobe. That's simply just your opinion. Jerry West may have said that, but go search up interviews with other GM's and coaches that state Kobe is better. Of course that's true, but by Kobe's 8th season he had a reputation for being clutch and delivering in crunch time- he was a beast. What do people say about Lebron? Quitter? Choker? no fourth quarter?
Bernankeful 2 months ago
@MerkinMuffly idiot kobe may have a bad day or series but how many has lebron had against boston twice and he had 4 straight fourth quarters with two points or less against dallas lebron chokes on a yearly basis in the playoffs that was once on kobe's part just like u asshole lebron fans to find any excuse to make lebron's performance sound acceptable bloody mother fuckers
levanesh1 2 months ago
this just shows how much he's imrpved and come from then
JBobomb 2 months ago
he had good reason to "quit", they were up 3-1 and lost that, which is very rare and a good sign of the team's mental state in general. kobe had a previous outing against the suns where he scored 50 pts with no help and they still comfortably lost. this was a statement game- that his teammates weren't good enough.
this guy is one of the most competitive athletes ever, his frustration is understandable at a team that was going nowhere but down, i think smush parker was the pg for christ's sake
demondayzzz 2 months ago
@demondayzzz plus many of those passes are good ones to open shooters
demondayzzz 2 months ago
@demondayzzz there's NEVER a good reason to quit. what a joke
xstatic6 2 months ago
Anyone can make arguments on all sides of the spectrum in this conversation, bottom line KB24 has 5 championship rings in which he was a huge part in everyone of them, that is undistputed. You don't have 5 rings by quitting on your team, if you believe this, you don't know sports
tabkitchen1983 2 months ago
" The 2002 Finals, in the fourth quarter, who had all the clutch plays not to mention shooting 51.4% from the field and have the best clutch performance down the stretch in that whole playoffs dickhead? "
Shaquille O'Neal = 36 PPG, 12 RPG, 3 APG and 59 FG%
Kobe Bryant = 26 PPG, 5 RPG, 5 APG and 51 FG%
Bottom line ; Kobe was Shaq's sidekick throughout his tenure in LA. Shaq won MVP's, Finals MVP's, averaged more points, rebounds and win shares [ Defensively + Offensively ].
OneTrueAce 2 months ago 2
Stats are important but in basketball you stats have to do with your place at the right time. Oscar Robinson's stats are better than Magic Johnson, but is he a better PG than Magic? No. And the greatest stat of all is championships. So if we're talking about who's the greatest of all time or who's better than who, then Bill Russell is better than everybody he has 11 championships.....but does that make him the greatest, cause he's got the "stats"?
T82486 2 months ago
Shaq needed Kobe, just as much as Kobe needed Shaq. You said Kobe shot them out of games. Well I didn't see that, when Kobe saved the Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, when SHAQ FOULED OUT!!! And without Kobe, in Game 4, the Lakers lost by 30. Or in the 2002 Finals when all they did was Hack-A-Shaq(which contributed to the bulk of Shaq's points, not his inside scoring) it was Kobe's 51.4 % that kept NJ at bay. And i've never seen a sidekick win more championship or a championship w/o the hero
T82486 2 months ago
I really shouldn't have to explain the difference in between the 2010 Finals and Lebron's game 5 performance, because 1st of all the Lakers won the series lol. 2nd Lebron's 3-14 performance resulting in Shaq having the highest points on the team that night in a 32 point blowout assclown. Kobe still lead the team in scoring that night and had 15 rebounds. And Kobe never let a team blow him out by 32 in the playoffs on his home floor, when being the number 1 seed in the Western Conf. EVER!!!!
T82486 2 months ago
" In the 2001 Finals, who scored the most points for the team? "
Kobe has also shot his team out of many games. You remember the 04 Finals ? But thats besides the point. Here's the 01 Finals comparision for Shaq and Kobe ;
Shaq = 33 PPG, 15 RPG, 4 AST, and 57 FG%
Kobe = 24 PPG, 7 RPG, 5 AST, and 41 FG%
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
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" In the 2000 Finals, when Kobe didn't play in game 3 what happened assclown? The Lakers lost by 30 "
Compare Kobe and Shaq's statline in the series. This loss means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
" And in Game 4 when the Lakers were down that game who carried the team with 22 points in the 2nd half when Shaq fouled out? "
Shaq scored 36 points and grabbed 21 rebounds in that game. Kobe's second half performance didn't carry the team, it boosted them.
OneTrueAce 2 months ago
wow, kobe shoots, people call him a hog,
then kobe stops shooting and starts passing to his team and people call him a "quitter" lol wtf
bryantlakers09 2 months ago
@bryantlakers09 did you even watch? that's not just passing to his team, that's NOT DOING ANYTHING at all
xstatic6 2 months ago
whoa great phoenix defense!!
cyb3rsaurus 2 months ago
@T82486 how is this not a off game.. after this game he went home and said hey guys i went 3-15 today.. and everybody congradulates him.. NO!!! he played like ass and they got blown out.. its that simple.. you take the best player from any team and they go 3-15 do you really expect them to win that game.. use common sense now.. i think lebron is the best player.. no rings soo.. the thropy goes to the best team.. not player.. isnt that wat the mvp is for anyways..
DeeRay1990 2 months ago
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kobe first became known as clutch when he went out in the 2000 finals and won it in game 4 to take a 3-1 for the lakers when shaw got fouled out. LLebron is 27 , and he still hasn't won a ring, and he only scored 8 points in a whole finals game and 10 points in the both fourth quartes of game 4 and 5 this year. so stfu.
xKmasterAtVideosx 2 months ago
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It's funny to me, you have no life lol, you spend your time to make a video about kobe, everyone misses clutch shots magic johnson is called clutch cause of his one famous shot against the boston celtics, michael jordan missed some clutch shots, so has tim duncan. The list goes on, but its funny how you don't mention the shots kobe has made, need i remind you of the 7 gamewinners he made in the 09-10 season, kobe is indeed very cllutch, And he's obviously more clutch then lebron,
xKmasterAtVideosx 2 months ago
is this the game they were talking about in everybody hates chris with chrisy the black?
BoOtlegXsp0rTs 2 months ago
as you can see,there LOTS of dislikes! BUT YET The Top Comments prove this Video right! And are on the same Page as the Uploaders Mind! Conclusion:
Everybody that REALLY watches the Vid,is with this Opinion! But ppl,like Kobes Fans,or Lakers Fans,see this,dislike,and go watch some kobe highlight reel! -.-
THATS WHY! also thats why bruce blitz´s genius vids have much dislikes,but the top comments are PRO Bruce Blitz and his Vid!
TheRafaelBond 2 months ago 8
so before game 7 you criticize him for taking too much shots, then criticize him for not taking enough shots??
illman300 2 months ago
Dude You're the fucking hypocrite for posting this and trying to talk down on Kobe!!!!
Johnny3403 2 months ago
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lets all go cry bc kobe quit in one playoff series ahhhhh! How many lebron quit in? Im not hating on him either i like lebron, jus hate ppl who worship him and thinks he is close to MJ....
MrTune931 2 months ago
And how quickly Merkin forget Bird's embarrassing no-show in game 6 of the 1987 Finals. Barely showed, didn't hit double figures until the Lakers had seized control of the game, basically a non-factor. And where was Bird when the Bucks were sweeping in 1983 I wonder? And that sucky performance in '88 vs the Pistons--gets swept under the rug, right? Don't buy the 'older is better' crap guys. None of these players are/were flawless.
TheBrainMachine78 2 months ago
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TheBrainMachine78 2 months ago
Kobe and Lebron quitting and choking just show MJ was the best ever
Bigballin211 2 months ago
watch?v=N0xzdqaHAk8&feature=related
Dunkmaster3333 2 months ago
lol people called kobe a ball hog now we know why he always does his team could not hit anything
KDurantula 2 months ago
I bet anyone would wanna quit on a team which came back from 3-1 to 3-4 and then ended up losing by 20 at the half... the guy played his ass off till that half, no way was his team gonna come back. Nd I don't blame Kobe for that, blame the coach for not keeping his team in check in game 5,6 and 7.
CalmlyBreathe 2 months ago
by the way, this is persianking. the owner of this video blocked me from commenting on any of his videos because he's a sourpuss celtics fan (just click on his profile and you'll see why he makes these videos). he also makes "why jordan is overrated" videos. it's pretty sad how he censors the comment sections in his videos.
basedoverlordswag 2 months ago
@Bones87ish
you're just throwing random tidbits of facts here pretending they mean something. kobe in no way gave up on his team during the playoffs this year. bynum calling the team out for having trust issues PUBLICLY was stupid as fuck anyway. kobe is a class act, you don't call out the team like that. and i would HIGHLY disagree with saying that cavaliers team had no talent, and you're just straight up wrong if you believe that that team had less talent than the lakers 2004-2007.
basedoverlordswag 2 months ago
@basedoverlordswag Alright put it this way LBJ's has been in the NBA for 8 yrs now n he's already scored 17,362 points. When Kobe hit his 8th yr in the league he only scored 12,215 pints. That's over 5000 MORE points. How does that not mean n e thing? Yeah Kobe has 5 rings but did he win those championships on his own? NO! Kobe has never won a championship without a dominant center n til this day LBJ's has never had a good center on his team.
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish
Quit speaking, you just made up facts and looked like an idiot. How can Kobe have 26k in his 14th season and only have 12k in his 8th. Lmao, the more you speak the more you lose credibility. Quit spamming me, its not that serious. And why are u even arguing, lebron still has no rings either way, so STFU troll
lmaostrnoob 2 months ago
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lmaostrnoob 2 months ago
@Bones87ish Even my bad, Kobe doesnt even have 26k, just checked nba site and Kobe has a total career pts of 27, 868. Now you know youre a lieng, faggot. How can he score 15k points in 6 seasons. Dumb shit
lmaostrnoob 2 months ago
@lmaostrnoob U dumb fuck i didn't say in total bitch pay more attention to my post. I said when Kobe hit his EIGHT yr the same amount of yrs that LBJ's has in the league now Kobe only scored 12,215 points in his EIGHT YR. EIGHT YR. EIGHT YR. Got it now dumb fuck! As for LBJ's he already scored 17,362 points in his EIGHT YR
Bones87ish 2 months ago
@Bones87ish Quit speaking little dumb fucking troll, no one gives a fuck how many he scored in his 8th season, the bitch still has 0 rings. Lmao what an idiot payign attention to some random ass statistic that has no relevance to Lebron sucking dick in the finals. 2.2 avg in the 4th and he's clutch? LOOOL
lmaostrnoob 2 months ago