So too if the WTGB is Esther the queen and so no one goes to Jesus the king except thru Esther the queen you will likewise then find a great crowd who wants to worship that christ pair despite their not wanting it. Remember this, that the Bible had strict lines before Jesus who added when fulfilled, so too do you not think the greater and new christ (coupled pair) will then add & fulfill as Jesus did. Do you not know that for 1200 yrs Catholics accept their church as The Queen?
you are like the world who accuses the WTGB of veneration or worship. Understand this, that the Pope is venerated. And understand that Jesus was venerated when he didnt want it, upon being called so GOOD he said no one is good but God. Jesus was Christ until 1914 not king until 1914. No one gets to Jehovah the king but thru Jesus the christ.
You quote the article which says in scripture that there should be no baptism in the name of Paul. However, the baptism in the name of Jesus Xerxes is without Esther prior to 1971 because Esther did not rule Jerusalem until year 57 of the city. After 1971 when Esther married Xerxes the war against Jehovah was against her and yet restrained by her for 37 years until Malachi announced Elijah was here in Artaxerxes year 32.
To Wopwoman: First of all, anyone who spells as badly as you, can't have an I.Q. much past the retarded level. Therefore, you shouldn't open your mouth, because when you do, you really show what a pseudo-intellectual you really are! I've actually bothered to learn a few things about JWs and there's a lot of logic and common-sense to what they have to say.
You are a weird character! I hope other x-jw are not like you. You freak me out! You look like horns will sprout any minute. Where is your pitch fork?
What if God's holy spirit actually did shine light on JW's organization. NO other organization in the world understand the Bible like JW's. And don't forget, Jesus was perfect, by his apostel were not. They made many mistakes, The organization is man made, Im sure they make many mistakes...but you are going against the same organization that taught you the truth. You are turning people away from Jehovah, and the only organization that spreads and preaches the kingdom of God.
isaiah30v8, where did you learn that Jehovah and Jesus are not the same person, where did you learn that the trinity is pagan belief, were did you learn about God's Kingdom, resurrection, 1914, Where did you learn these things? Could it be that the organization of JW is been guided by holy spirit and thus is the helper? If it wasnt' for the Watchtower, would you know all the things you know now about God? Think about that. Im not saying the organization is perfect...but it is a helper.
God's spirt directed organization.. LOL. What a load of garbage. Like God would speek to false prophets, liars and con men.People still fall for this nonsense. How sad.
were baptized into Gods Sprited organiztion NOT an organization its an organization that is directed by Jehovahs spirit, simple , your information is soooooooooo confusing and incorect...
Good video Bro. It is interesting how Jws always insist that 'EVERYTHING" that they do is from the bible. Once again we learn that statement is just another deception.
Are you people insane, I'm sure God would chose a leader of Christendom and a man that was fully involved with paganism as the orchestrator and developer of his earthly organization. He was a scam artist and a professional salesman nothing more. This organization is nothing more than a corrupt book publishing company that exploits people to buy and sell its literature, that is why they have over a billion dollars in assets to date, grow up people and stop supporting corruption.
there is no selling of any of the litature it is all free its all donations and with Jehovahs spirit is is growing,no collection plates proof that is it backed by Jehovah
"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization.
When you say "yes" to this question you are venerating a name called "Gods Spirit Directed Organization" and making it a part of the baptismal ceremony.
15 "If YOU love me, YOU will observe my commandments; 16 and I will request the Father and he will give YOU another helper to be with YOU forever, 17 the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive.
hhhmmmmmmmm
The people who don't obey Jesus Christ are not going to understand the truth.
I think you put it very well brother. Keep showing people the truth about this. There is no need to even mention ANY organization during a baptism. It is between a person and God.
Some people will understand and start obeying Jesus Christ. Others will not understand:
Daniel 12
10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.
Quoting scripture won't change the fact that you have totally distorted the blatent obvious meaning of Q)2 to fit your own a agenda/properganda, That is outright deliberate slander.
Jehovah's Witnesses are TWISTING the obvious baptismal commandment.
If Jesus Christ says "do it this way" then DO IT HIS WAY. He is the King of the entire universe. If someone pretends that you dhould now do it a different way DON't LISTEN TO THEM.
"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
This question is not a dedication to an organisation as some people would like/prefer to think, but a public declaration that they are now willing to be known as one of Jehovahs Witnesses and to let the public know that they are now part of the JW organization
You really cannot see how you are providing veneration to a name that is not included in Jesus Christs Baptismal Commandment?
Maybe you are thinking that: "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
Q)2"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
Now answer this question please.
what part of Q)2 is "providing veneration" (worship) to the organzation. WHAT PART?
This time don't dance around the question and answer it please.
Are you kidding me. You said in your video "you are now being baptized in the name of an organization". Wheres your proof? I noticed you did'nt quote the 2 baptism questions (not vows. Vows are a promise or oath) because if you read them properly they don't support what you claim.
you are a tweeker
QueenMyRayaFya 1 year ago
Excellent Job Well done!!!
coolwater792 2 years ago
This is incredible! Thanks for posting this, I was not aware of this baptismal requirement. The WTS is truly the Man of Lawlessness!
Larsinger58 2 years ago
So too if the WTGB is Esther the queen and so no one goes to Jesus the king except thru Esther the queen you will likewise then find a great crowd who wants to worship that christ pair despite their not wanting it. Remember this, that the Bible had strict lines before Jesus who added when fulfilled, so too do you not think the greater and new christ (coupled pair) will then add & fulfill as Jesus did. Do you not know that for 1200 yrs Catholics accept their church as The Queen?
elijahovah 3 years ago
you are like the world who accuses the WTGB of veneration or worship. Understand this, that the Pope is venerated. And understand that Jesus was venerated when he didnt want it, upon being called so GOOD he said no one is good but God. Jesus was Christ until 1914 not king until 1914. No one gets to Jehovah the king but thru Jesus the christ.
elijahovah 3 years ago
You quote the article which says in scripture that there should be no baptism in the name of Paul. However, the baptism in the name of Jesus Xerxes is without Esther prior to 1971 because Esther did not rule Jerusalem until year 57 of the city. After 1971 when Esther married Xerxes the war against Jehovah was against her and yet restrained by her for 37 years until Malachi announced Elijah was here in Artaxerxes year 32.
elijahovah 3 years ago
BTW, Isaiah30v8, you sound like you're spewing out of lot of incoherent, rhetoric drivel!
JoeyEhm 3 years ago
To Wopwoman: First of all, anyone who spells as badly as you, can't have an I.Q. much past the retarded level. Therefore, you shouldn't open your mouth, because when you do, you really show what a pseudo-intellectual you really are! I've actually bothered to learn a few things about JWs and there's a lot of logic and common-sense to what they have to say.
JoeyEhm 3 years ago
You are a weird character! I hope other x-jw are not like you. You freak me out! You look like horns will sprout any minute. Where is your pitch fork?
timmyrigs 3 years ago
Hey, I'm not the one who is disobeying Jesus Christ. It's Satan who has deceived Jehovah's Witnesses into doing this!
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
What if God's holy spirit actually did shine light on JW's organization. NO other organization in the world understand the Bible like JW's. And don't forget, Jesus was perfect, by his apostel were not. They made many mistakes, The organization is man made, Im sure they make many mistakes...but you are going against the same organization that taught you the truth. You are turning people away from Jehovah, and the only organization that spreads and preaches the kingdom of God.
sfumato1002 3 years ago
isaiah30v8, where did you learn that Jehovah and Jesus are not the same person, where did you learn that the trinity is pagan belief, were did you learn about God's Kingdom, resurrection, 1914, Where did you learn these things? Could it be that the organization of JW is been guided by holy spirit and thus is the helper? If it wasnt' for the Watchtower, would you know all the things you know now about God? Think about that. Im not saying the organization is perfect...but it is a helper.
sfumato1002 3 years ago
Correction: It WAS being guided by holy spirit and no longer is.
That's why the Song of Moses will be sung:
19 When Jehovah saw it, then he came to disrespect them,
Because of the vexation his sons and his daughters gave.
20 So he said, 'Let me conceal my face from them, Let me see what their end will be afterward.
For they are a generation of perverseness,
Sons in whom there is no faithfulness.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
God's spirt directed organization.. LOL. What a load of garbage. Like God would speek to false prophets, liars and con men.People still fall for this nonsense. How sad.
wopwoman 3 years ago
were baptized into Gods Sprited organiztion NOT an organization its an organization that is directed by Jehovahs spirit, simple , your information is soooooooooo confusing and incorect...
traciyoshi 3 years ago
Something must be restraining you!
See the video;- Jehovah's Witnesses The Covenant with Death.
It might help remove the thing acting as a restraint!
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Very direct and accurate information about the Watchtower cult and what being baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY means. Thanks!
MatthiasChurch 3 years ago
Good video Bro. It is interesting how Jws always insist that 'EVERYTHING" that they do is from the bible. Once again we learn that statement is just another deception.
21crosscheck21 3 years ago
Apostate information. As simple as that.
sboy77 3 years ago
Sounds like something the Jews said when the Christians told them they should leave Jerusalem because it had been surrounded by encamped armies.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Are you people insane, I'm sure God would chose a leader of Christendom and a man that was fully involved with paganism as the orchestrator and developer of his earthly organization. He was a scam artist and a professional salesman nothing more. This organization is nothing more than a corrupt book publishing company that exploits people to buy and sell its literature, that is why they have over a billion dollars in assets to date, grow up people and stop supporting corruption.
coolsmith241 3 years ago
there is no selling of any of the litature it is all free its all donations and with Jehovahs spirit is is growing,no collection plates proof that is it backed by Jehovah
traciyoshi 3 years ago
When you say "Yes" to the second question it is like a marriage Vow.
Its the same thing as when a minister says; "Do you accept this woman as your wife". When you say `Yes` the Vow is complete!`
Through this baptism do you accept that you are an associate of `God`s Spirit Directed Organization``.
If you say Yes.
IT IS A VOW !!!
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Good points.
ralema567 3 years ago
These scriptures do not change the fact that you lied in your video stating "you are now being baptized in the name of an organization".
I require proof not properganda or slander but PROOF.
Show me WHAT PART of Q)2 is supporting your claim. Don't run away from the question this time.
acerimmeh 3 years ago
This part:
"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization.
When you say "yes" to this question you are venerating a name called "Gods Spirit Directed Organization" and making it a part of the baptismal ceremony.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
John 15:10
10 If YOU observe my commandments, YOU will remain in my love, just as I have observed the commandments of the Father and remain in his love.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
John 14:15
15 "If YOU love me, YOU will observe my commandments; 16 and I will request the Father and he will give YOU another helper to be with YOU forever, 17 the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive.
hhhmmmmmmmm
The people who don't obey Jesus Christ are not going to understand the truth.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Q)2 is a Aknowledgement that the individual recognizes they will be ASSOCIATED with the JW Organization.
Just like a Cathlic is associated with the Pope or the Vatican.
Why is this question so hard for you to understand, oh thats right it does'nt fit your properganda so you make it fit, that much is obvious.
And I am shaking my head
acerimmeh 3 years ago
You have a choice.
a/ Obey Jesus Christs Commanded Baptism.
b/ Obey Jehovah's Witnesses Invented Baptism.
Which choice above will show that you really do want Jesus Christ to be your King?
Which choice above shows that you don't give a rat's ass about Jesus Christ?
I know the answer.
Can you figure it out?
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
I think you put it very well brother. Keep showing people the truth about this. There is no need to even mention ANY organization during a baptism. It is between a person and God.
God Bless you
thru Yeshua the Messiah
Dawnx
Hypohair 2 years ago
Some people will understand and start obeying Jesus Christ. Others will not understand:
Daniel 12
10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Quoting scripture won't change the fact that you have totally distorted the blatent obvious meaning of Q)2 to fit your own a agenda/properganda, That is outright deliberate slander.
acerimmeh 3 years ago
Ok I see, you have "insight" but refuse to get the actual meaning of Q)2
you "cleanse" and "whiten" yourself, yet you slanderously twist the obvious meaning to Q)2
And beacuse I'm "wicked" I won't understand your twisting the obvious meaning of the question.
acerimmeh 3 years ago
Jehovah's Witnesses are TWISTING the obvious baptismal commandment.
If Jesus Christ says "do it this way" then DO IT HIS WAY. He is the King of the entire universe. If someone pretends that you dhould now do it a different way DON't LISTEN TO THEM.
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Question 2
"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
This question is not a dedication to an organisation as some people would like/prefer to think, but a public declaration that they are now willing to be known as one of Jehovahs Witnesses and to let the public know that they are now part of the JW organization
acerimmeh 3 years ago
Are you kidding me.
You really cannot see how you are providing veneration to a name that is not included in Jesus Christs Baptismal Commandment?
Maybe you are thinking that: "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
Is not a part of the Jehovah's Witness Baptism.
Give your head a shake!
isaiah30v8 3 years ago
Q)2"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism IDENTIFIES you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Gods spirit directed Organization."
Now answer this question please.
what part of Q)2 is "providing veneration" (worship) to the organzation. WHAT PART?
This time don't dance around the question and answer it please.
acerimmeh 3 years ago
The two questions are
Question 1
"On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins, (and)didicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will."
acerimmeh 3 years ago
Hi isaiah30v8.
Are you kidding me. You said in your video "you are now being baptized in the name of an organization". Wheres your proof? I noticed you did'nt quote the 2 baptism questions (not vows. Vows are a promise or oath) because if you read them properly they don't support what you claim.
acerimmeh 3 years ago