@dishfafaris it is, Exora is a rebadge version of the Grandis, the Grandis design were used in Exora, but they didnt do it quite similar cuz they didnt copy it 100%
Proton & Perodua cars are brilliant than Mercedes since they makes LIVE Crash Test using Live Peoples. Everyday we can see more than 100 Fatal crash test involving Proton & Perodua cars.
Prime Minister, CEO and directors in both companies bathe with Malaysian peoples blood.
Maybe both companies introduced to reduce lower and middle class population in Malaysia.
@jamaldn75 seriously bro, next time use your head before claiming such irregularities and annoying idea throwing on assumption and theory. since the vehicle itself is cheap here of course MANY people would have chose to drive it. annoyingly (like what you are doing right now), not all driver chose to drive safe and appropriately handles a car within its limit and class.
R u working in Proton? They designed cars to make ethnic cleansing on Malaysian peoples.
Think about their safety, do u wanna bet me both companies making safe cars? If i don't have money i will use cheap motorcycle (Cub) rather than driving malaysian or Chinese cars.
@jamaldn75 no need to work with proton in order to see what they are doing. the product are given widely and publicly, thus no need to see all the blue print. yet need to see the product on the road. ethnic cleansing?? hahahahha bro, uve made my day. the hilariously stupid joke of the day.
and yet you buy one because of the package. u get a car, safety system, basic instrument and a peace of mind. now tell me, what did proton or perodua didnt do as others did? tell me at least one thing.
kennapa hanya guna 48km/h.... di eropah mereka guna kelajuan 64 km/h sbb telah diselidik apabila kereta dibawa laju dan brek... kelajuan akan turun ke 64 km/h paling kurang.... highway kita 110km/h... so uji la dgn kelajuan 40 mph (64 km/h)... cuba tgk di Top Gear diaorang buat crash test kereta kita.... takut beb.... dorang sanggup kuar duit cash untuk beli kereta baru dan test kereta tu....
@speckymans kalau buat teruk2,nanti membuka pekung di dada ... makin nampak buruk adalah ... kereta m'sia x taulah ranking dia dalam car safety ... mau top 100 kot ... huhuh ... dah 25 tahun,tp kualiti masih 25 tahun dahulu ... body masih tin milo ... ketuk ngan tangan terus bengkok ... huhuh
hahha..' toyota everyone knows the quality'.. yeah read news bout toyota and its bad although they have been in this field for quite long. for proton just look forward and learn from mistake,take the challenge and you will be good...
you are dreaming real hard that proton will learn from their mistake and will improve. they wont until the government stop all the protectionist policy on proton. they will improve a bit, but since its not competitive driven, it wont last.
dont be brand-conscious.. u ask toyota/honda/mitsubishi/bmw/mercedes : how long have the company existed? i dare say the answer will be more than 20+ years. So give chance to proton learn from their mistakes.
you cant compare proton with those companies. first of all, proton is a government owned and heavily protected company. not competitive driven. proton might improve, because probably just to change their image, or whatever reason other than to produce the best quality car that people will buy on their genuine choice. second, toyota honda bmw mercedes all has made real good cars from the beginning, atleast for those times. they were often a breakthrough model.
but at least proton tries to improve from saga to exora now..and we should be proud of it...about those europe cars..i dont deny their cars have a good quality..look at their tech..too far from us...
@ArticMuse Good cars from the beginning? Read more. Honda have produced death traps in their early years, the N360. Read the book the Honda Myth to know more!
@tiadaid ok fine atleast if you or other people want to spend RM70,000-80,000 buying this car...why dont you consider NAZA/KIA Forte instead? Same price range, and it looks more stylish, designed by Audi guy, got ABS, Traction control, and everything new honda city has but for less, and better quality than exora.
@ArticMuse can ur Forte carry 7 people? is your Forte have 'Body Control Module'? does your Forte has 12 inch LCD screen in it? i doubt Forte even has the famous 'teh tarik hook' inside all Proton models.
also Forte's handling is pure shit, a 2009 Gen-2 CPS high line model has the same safety/quality, 100x better handling and performance. (and cheaper too, or 100x more stylish if put Proton Gen2 R3 bodykit.)
"forte more stylish" my ass,looked like a cheap Lancer/Audi rip-off.still good though.
@itom95 : Gen2 is ugly for God's sake..look at the head lamp. All matsaleh says Gen2 is ugly the only people who says Gen2 looks good is those stereotypical kampong malay mamat and chinese ah beng who is so proud of anything malaysian disregarding the true quality of it. R3 body kit?? u serious?? that makes you a RICER. disgusting..
@ArticMuse too bad youre wrong, my american friend were impressed with the Gen-2's design,one of 'em said "this thing is millions better than that Chevy and Kia cheapshit" "we need this thin' in the US for fucks sake".
i meant R3 bodykit + R3 performance CPS cams + R3 ECU tuning and suspensions, 170hp tops. costs like RM10000. combine it with the manual hi-line Gen-2 CPS price, its still cheaper than the Forte.
also ori R3 bodykit is not ricey, its made for true FWD aerodynamics optimization.
@itom95 cheaper but not safer...no ESP, Front/Side Airbags, ABS, Traction Control all of which in fact is standard in Kia forte SX. 2.0L and EX model except Side airbags. So with all the rampant reckless malaysian driving, atleast you're less likely to die on the road.
@ArticMuse lol not really, ever heard of Crumple Zone in a Proton? absorbs impact and destroys the body, except that the cabin is secured and you'll not injured. combine that with the high tensile roll cage (standard in every Proton), ABS (CPS standard), EBD (CPS standard too), B-EBD (CPS standard also), 2 SRS airbags (surely for a CPS Proton).
@ArticMuse also ESP and TCS is not needed, mainly coz the handling, tyre grip, and minimal body roll in Gen-2 CPS are already too good for a sedan/hatchback.
those ESP and TCS also decreases fuel efficiency, and tyre life, mainly coz they mainly work by applying brakes on slipping tyres. R3 small LSD addon in Protons is the way to go :)
(LSD works by transferring energy from high grip tyres to slipping tyres, so you can take faster corners/ brake hard with no danger of losing control)
i dont know...i guess i just dont like the fact the more you buy proton the richer those malay cronies in BN...and much poorer the ordinary malay becomes. sad..my family move country btw, happy to leave malaysia.
Great! we are happy to see you leaving Malaysia, this is a peaceful country, we don't need racist traitors like you.
"much poorer the ordinary malay becomes" my ass, everyday the MY economy goes up like hell after MEB introduced, closer and closer to make it a high income Wawasan 2020 country. but it only will improve the 'rakyat' life in another 10-15 years. (well there are no country that immediately improve its citizen's life in 1-2 years lol)
@itom95 Im yet to see MEB change ppls life, its just introduced a month ago I cant comment on that. Im sorry to say the statistics brought up by one MP says malay controls 30% of the economy and falling to 20%...meanwhile, umno's enemy increased their control from 70% to 80%. Besides i live richer here, my dad has more tender and development contracts here than back in Johor to say the least. Im not alone man, many malays happily move out of malaysia.
@ArticMuse by who? ONE MP? lol. better don't trust him.
but if its true, then nothing special lah, everyone wanna make money, right?
lol my dad also got more contracts and make more money here lol, on house projects, city development and modernization, and others. oh yeah he's real rich.
and also things here are getting pretty cheap too, mainly the electronics, high end Sony NX LED for only RM 8,000 loolol.
you lived in Johor last time right? too bad you didn't move to Shah Alam or KL...
another malaysian junk car. dont buy this car. if you do, expect power window failure, transmission failure, leaking door seal, cabin VIBRATION. you might well buy Toyota AVANZA.
@itom95 no wrong. avanza is not 'made' its only assembled in malaysia. it doesnt matter where you assemble car, you can assemble merc in proton factory if merc germany agree to it. (which they never will) avanza parts made in indonesia assembled in malaysia. Perodua alza and avanza uses same engine because alza is manufactured with toyota/daihatsu cooperation duhh..so i think you are still pointing out Perodua is better than Proton exora. which is ofcourse true because its not Malaysian 100%.
@itom95 dont talk crap of course my uncle go service la..he got 10 000 free service moron !! as a matter of fact he sold and had naza forte instead. and i think is a good choice considering its not a malaysian crap.
@ArticMuse lol Forte, the car that uses cheap torsion beam for rear suspension which has worseeee handling than Proton-Lotus multilink suspension. even Saga beats Ford Focus Ghia's handling...
seems like ur uncle dont think much..a new facelift Ford Focus 2.0 is a better choice..
but yea, Forte's pretty good choice if ur uncle drive only in town, dont drive fast and showoff the exterior..
@itom95 have "Chinese electric Car Saibao jointly developed by China's Tianjin Qingyuan Electric Vehicle Company and Hafei Auto Group recently passed Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS)'s 40mph frontal offset impact test. This is the first time a Chinese electric vehicle has passed the test. Saibao, scored US-NCAP (United States New Car Assessment Program) 4 stars."
apa apa pun crash test.. EURO ECE94 KE, NCAP KE, yang penting bawa kereta dengan selamat! test tu hanya tunjuk angka ja, tapi kalau sendiri pun bawak macam sial, kereta apa pun, confirm mati punya!
Bagi aku,Exora ini adalah salah satu model proton yang paling tahan bodynya dengan terbuktinya car crash test ini.Memang remukkan berlaku sedemikian dan anda boleh melihat bagaimana Mercedes dan BMW juga mengalami remukan seperti itu.5 Tumbs untuk Proton!
eleh cherry mpv yg berlambak dlm mesia lagi teruk crash test! cuba ko taip "cherry crash test" ko tau tak kereta china 0 % survival crash tau compom death..
all car tests (proton, mercedes, toyota etc.) are done around 35km/h into a deformable block. Few cars will have a survival rate when hit at 80-90km.. but the reason for 35 because thats the standard speed of impact after braking is applied, car makers EXPECT drivers to break before an impact. You dont keep on accelerating after seeing a car heading towards you, even in a split second.. you brake..duh. So read up about Crash Tests.
hopefully this one safety rating is good since our very waja only can make it to 2.5/5 star safety rating...we are talking about mpv,a people carrier...the safety of multiple passenger must be not taken for granted...go proton!!
Tak suka beli keta lain.....tak mampu, diam jgn berlagak pandai. Dah la mmiskin takda duit nk beli keta...ada hati nk kutuk Proton tuh..apa inggat dia Jeremy Clarkson ke. AT least dia kutuk dapat duit. Korang yg kutuk tu...dapat apa tah....cari la awek.
jgn bimbang...proton adalah kenderaan yg paling selamat sekali dlm dunia ni,walaupun dibom dgn bom atom dan nuklear sekalipun,penumpang dan pemandu di dlm masih lagi selamat,tak percaya cubalah uji sendiri,kereta kebal pun kalah...... : )
ahahaha....yaa betol tu brader... bengong punya kereta. Kata ada safety standard tu dan ni...tapi semua optional. Enjin Campro...nama je glamour...tapi bila bawa rasa macam enjin tu yang control pemandu...
Mana-mana kereta berlanggar pun semua remuk.Berapa banyak kereta BMW dgn Merz accident mampus jugak aku tengok.Tapi design Exora ni aku tak berapa suka la.Lampu depan macam nak tiru Toyota Wish.Designer kat RnD Proton ni takder taste ke.Masa tengah buat Model pakai tanah liat tu takkan korang tak perasan Exora ni ada nampak macam HAWAU sikit.Berani la sikit pakai IDEA sendiri.Jgn dok Copy Paste je kerjanya.
Sape yg kutuk Proton tu maknanya dia takder Kereta.Statement kau macam PUNDEK.Kau jangan nak memuji melampau sangat la Proton.Memang ada Model Proton yg aku suka macam Perdana V6.Tapi kebanyakkannya HAWAU.Kilang Proton pun kau tak pernah masuk.Sebab tu membuta tuli.Kalau kau nak tahu seatbealt kau punya skru tu diorang bukan kasi TORK betul-betul pun.Cuma letak je Grease MERAH tu kunun dah TORK la.Padahal longgar.Kau je BODOH!
Jgn pedulikan si donnaopi tu, aenz81. He is trying to be cool. Lesen memandu pun silap2 takde lagi beb. Spesis monyet mcm dia mmg ada lagi dlm Malaysia ni beb. Tapi tak ramai cam dulu. Cayalah Exora!
ok la tu...mana ada keta accident tak remuk?kalu u blajar fizik, keta yg selamat adalah keta yang lembut di bahagian depan sb dia telah menukarkan tenaga hentakan kepada tenaga remukan dan selagi dia tidak meremukkan zon kerangka penumpang/pemandu.Jd exora ni ok laa..
diharap lepas ni proton dapat cipte kereta yg paling tahan lasak sekali dlm dunia,mcm kereta presiden obama,kalis peluru,kalis bom,kalis nuklear,kalis apa lagi???
not what i mean la. i mean, itu baru 56kmh. bayangkan kalau 100kmh, apa jadi? mesti la driver dengan passenger tu remuk habis tubuh badan sebab enjin lebih dulu hancur. just a piece of me. bukan tidak menyokong buatan tempatan tapi sedikit frust kerana kualiti yang di export melebihi kualiti untuk orang kita pakai. sian orang malaysia kena tipu hidup2.
jangan marah ye.. u org kerja kat proton kah? hehe.
spec untuk test ni barangkali sudah standard. boleh jadi kebarangkalian pemandu menekan brek sudah diambil kira menjadikan kelajuan berkurangan kepada lingkungan yang diuji.maaf, saya masih pelajar kejuruteraan dan aspek penilaian keselamatan ni belum sampai lagi..cuma pendapat saya kemungkinan kenapa diuji dengan kelajuan tersebut.
aku rasa ko ni org perodua.. tak pun org toyota, tak pun honda ataupun ko keja ngan syarikat nama chery ataupun Tata kot?
cuba ko carikan aku video crash test keta jepun ke eropah ke, china ke yg speed dia 100km/h.. dah tgk video crash test keta luar negara ke? engine bay dia masih ok ke tak selepas crash? tahu apa itu crumple zone? ada bukti ke yg kualiti import lebih baik dari kualiti tempatan?
laa... zenkerin, takkan tanya pasal crumple zone je ko terus diam.. bagilah cabaran sikit..
I find out that ur comment is quite childish. So, no point to arguing with u base on ur childish comment due to lacks of true facts. I'll consider it's as "kalah jadi abu, menang jadi arang" if the argument still ongoing. I hope u giving a proper comment with useful information next time. And please be mature.
xpe lah. ko pandai, ko jawabkan je la untuk aku. aku nak tepuk tangan jek pasni kalau salah satu lagi keter tin milo ni eksiden teruk apa jadi. sama kot. aku tidak akan berpuas hati selagi pembekal kereta tempatan tidak membuat kereta untuk kegunaan orang tempatan SAMA DENGAN KUALITI YANG DIIMPORT! ada faham?
Lu lagi bodo, sejak lu tahu sgt yg proton keta tin milo tu, aku nak tahu.. apa tin milonya tu? ada seorg pekerja utk syarikat membekal "sheet metal" tempatan utk buat body keta.. dia cakap yg syarikat dia membekalkan meterial itu utk keta toyota, perodua, honda dan proton.. dia cakap, proton pakai sheet metal yg paling tebal dan disaluti lapisan cat sekarang ni.. manakala T, H dan P2 menggunakan sheet metal yg nipis dan plain.
chasis Exora menggunakan "SUPER GALVAZINED METAL" dibekalkan oleh syarikat korea, "POSCO"..
sementara keta jepun masih lagi menggunakan "GALVAZINED METAL".. kat tempat aku tinggal ada seorg cina menggunakan model Proton waja UK spec.. nama model itu IMPIAN.. aku pernah bercakap dgn dia, kualiti ada beza dgn yg local? dia cakap kualiti sama je, cuma ada sedikit aksessori tambahan sebab IMPIAN tu lebih mahal berbanding waja pada masa dulu..
cari fakta dulu sebelum membuat andaian encik zenkerin pandai... zaman tin milo dah berakhir.. agaknya ko sedar tak yg management Proton dah berubah tgn? ko tahu yg Proton dibawah MD yg baru? semua andaian yg ko buat tu berdasarkan kisah lama Proton.. come on.. wake up.. we're moving forward.. if u're not come along with us, u'll be left behind...
har3. bodo btol la melenting sampai gini skali - orang x kutuk dier pown. wakaka. ni pencacai proton ni. menegakkan benang yang basah. kalau dah xde kualiti tu, admit je lah wahai engineer haprak a.k.a tidak berduit. yang ko duk pertahan sangat tu, ko beli ke x? ke xde duit? kan muarah? sama kualiti (kononnya) dengan kereta buatan luar. muahahaha.
*aku bukan tidak menyokong produk malaysia tapi aku benci!
sian aku dgn ko ni.. cakap mcm org byk duit, tapi tgk dari umur ko ni mmg ko ni xder keta sendiri.. jgn kata nak pakai keta mahal yg berkualiti, pakai keta murah mcm proton pun ko tak mampu.. har3!
aku bukan nak menegakkan benang yg basah, bukan nak melenting.. cuma aku nak betulkan andaian yg tak berasas dari kamu yg bodoh sombong. Eh, yg ko melenting sampai mcm ni sekali pehal ha? bukan aku kutuk ko pun. aku cuma bangunkan ko dari mimpi siang.. bukti video yg jelas mcm ni pun masih kutuk?
orang Malaysia beli kereta sport NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R pun bawa mesti hancur depan dia macam dalam video ni (tahun 2008).. baru je lancar di Malaysia beli dah langgar teruk terus buang jadi scrap sebab enjin NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R mahal sungguh..
takashisupreme, kalo ko bwk 100km/h dan terasa nak langgar keta kat depan, ko tekan brek ataupun tidak? apa yg ko akan buat dlm keadaan panik? apa agaknya speed ko semasa ko langgar keta kat depan tu? Tahu apa itu crumple zone? langgar benda yg berganjak dan tidak berganjak, sama tak "momentum" dia dan kadar pelupusan impak hentakan sama tak? Kalo langgar tembok 100km/h kat mana tu? kat dlm kawasan perumahan ko drive 100kmh ke? bangunanan btl2 berada ditepi jln ke? soalan critical thinking nih.
kalau boleh buat crash test dari tepi, dan kamera tunjuk kat bahagian kaki nak tengok dia punya tempat pijak miyak dan brek tu terangkat ke tak.
rollover crash test, chasis tengah nampak memang kuat.. front crash test, nampaknya memang enjin dia rosak teruk, tapi nampak cermin tak pecah, orang dalam tu nampak macam selamat.
kalau aku mungkin bagi 3 1/2 bintang sebab tak ada crash test dari tepi dan kamera tak tunjuk apa jadi pada tempat kaki pemandu.
protons, the model is most similar to those already existing, which is like a mitsubishi grandis
dishfafaris 4 months ago
@dishfafaris it is, Exora is a rebadge version of the Grandis, the Grandis design were used in Exora, but they didnt do it quite similar cuz they didnt copy it 100%
Jake7206 3 days ago
better than china car maker .
srkkroh791 8 months ago 9
kalo korg perhati kn ader iras2 Mitsubishi kn?? x lh serupa iras2 jer
MekOlll 10 months ago
population control program.
kai5183 1 year ago
i want a saffer car :(
jimmyd757 1 year ago
@eyzaemo94 air bag tu klo de tp xpakai seat belt xguna gak... lg cepat mati de la klo accident...
fifos2187 1 year ago
persona got crash test?
Vi82nt 1 year ago
@Vi82nt no... & why it need to crash test it... we already have the real crash test dummy on the road '"a lots of it'"....
Proton94 10 months ago 2
Proton & Perodua cars are brilliant than Mercedes since they makes LIVE Crash Test using Live Peoples. Everyday we can see more than 100 Fatal crash test involving Proton & Perodua cars.
Prime Minister, CEO and directors in both companies bathe with Malaysian peoples blood.
Maybe both companies introduced to reduce lower and middle class population in Malaysia.
jamaldn75 1 year ago
@jamaldn75 seriously bro, next time use your head before claiming such irregularities and annoying idea throwing on assumption and theory. since the vehicle itself is cheap here of course MANY people would have chose to drive it. annoyingly (like what you are doing right now), not all driver chose to drive safe and appropriately handles a car within its limit and class.
mackury2002 1 year ago
@mackury2002
R u working in Proton? They designed cars to make ethnic cleansing on Malaysian peoples.
Think about their safety, do u wanna bet me both companies making safe cars? If i don't have money i will use cheap motorcycle (Cub) rather than driving malaysian or Chinese cars.
jamaldn75 1 year ago
@jamaldn75 no need to work with proton in order to see what they are doing. the product are given widely and publicly, thus no need to see all the blue print. yet need to see the product on the road. ethnic cleansing?? hahahahha bro, uve made my day. the hilariously stupid joke of the day.
and yet you buy one because of the package. u get a car, safety system, basic instrument and a peace of mind. now tell me, what did proton or perodua didnt do as others did? tell me at least one thing.
mackury2002 1 year ago
knaper x hantar jer Exora ni pegi ujian Euro NCAP??? kalau mahal pun x per kan?? demi keselamatan pengguna
Jake7206 1 year ago
this is not safe ?
ShriBL 1 year ago
what if there's no air bag?
not all exora have air bag right?
eyzaemo94 1 year ago
kennapa hanya guna 48km/h.... di eropah mereka guna kelajuan 64 km/h sbb telah diselidik apabila kereta dibawa laju dan brek... kelajuan akan turun ke 64 km/h paling kurang.... highway kita 110km/h... so uji la dgn kelajuan 40 mph (64 km/h)... cuba tgk di Top Gear diaorang buat crash test kereta kita.... takut beb.... dorang sanggup kuar duit cash untuk beli kereta baru dan test kereta tu....
speckymans 1 year ago
@speckymans kalau buat teruk2,nanti membuka pekung di dada ... makin nampak buruk adalah ... kereta m'sia x taulah ranking dia dalam car safety ... mau top 100 kot ... huhuh ... dah 25 tahun,tp kualiti masih 25 tahun dahulu ... body masih tin milo ... ketuk ngan tangan terus bengkok ... huhuh
kambing001 1 year ago
@speckymans
Mereka tersalah test, sepatutnya hanya 15kmph untuk crash test kereta Malaysia, brek tak makan masa test.
jamaldn75 1 year ago
@jamaldn75 Cakap Betul!
PotatoHoly 1 year ago
@PotatoHoly
PotatoHoly is only the Educated guy here.
jamaldn75 1 year ago
SORRY ARTICMUSE, SILAP HANTAR
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ArticMuse 1 year ago
Which car is better proton or brillance or Toyota?
TheLighting564 1 year ago
@TheLighting564 Proton and Toyota obviously.
itom95 1 year ago
hahha..' toyota everyone knows the quality'.. yeah read news bout toyota and its bad although they have been in this field for quite long. for proton just look forward and learn from mistake,take the challenge and you will be good...
nmrafie24 2 years ago
you are dreaming real hard that proton will learn from their mistake and will improve. they wont until the government stop all the protectionist policy on proton. they will improve a bit, but since its not competitive driven, it wont last.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
LAGU APA NI?? SAPE TAHU TLG BAGITAU
yadhmimi 2 years ago
EXORA BOLEH NAIK BUKIT KE??
yadhmimi 2 years ago
@yadhmimi
boleh ler.. sengal...
raphict 1 year ago
@yadhmimi please don't use caps for all words. its annoying.
and of course Exora can climb a hill
itom95 1 year ago
dont be brand-conscious.. u ask toyota/honda/mitsubishi/bmw/mercedes : how long have the company existed? i dare say the answer will be more than 20+ years. So give chance to proton learn from their mistakes.
HiddenSamurai1292 2 years ago
you cant compare proton with those companies. first of all, proton is a government owned and heavily protected company. not competitive driven. proton might improve, because probably just to change their image, or whatever reason other than to produce the best quality car that people will buy on their genuine choice. second, toyota honda bmw mercedes all has made real good cars from the beginning, atleast for those times. they were often a breakthrough model.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
but at least proton tries to improve from saga to exora now..and we should be proud of it...about those europe cars..i dont deny their cars have a good quality..look at their tech..too far from us...
HiddenSamurai1292 1 year ago
@ArticMuse Good cars from the beginning? Read more. Honda have produced death traps in their early years, the N360. Read the book the Honda Myth to know more!
tiadaid 1 year ago
@tiadaid ok fine atleast if you or other people want to spend RM70,000-80,000 buying this car...why dont you consider NAZA/KIA Forte instead? Same price range, and it looks more stylish, designed by Audi guy, got ABS, Traction control, and everything new honda city has but for less, and better quality than exora.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse can ur Forte carry 7 people? is your Forte have 'Body Control Module'? does your Forte has 12 inch LCD screen in it? i doubt Forte even has the famous 'teh tarik hook' inside all Proton models.
also Forte's handling is pure shit, a 2009 Gen-2 CPS high line model has the same safety/quality, 100x better handling and performance. (and cheaper too, or 100x more stylish if put Proton Gen2 R3 bodykit.)
"forte more stylish" my ass,looked like a cheap Lancer/Audi rip-off.still good though.
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 : Gen2 is ugly for God's sake..look at the head lamp. All matsaleh says Gen2 is ugly the only people who says Gen2 looks good is those stereotypical kampong malay mamat and chinese ah beng who is so proud of anything malaysian disregarding the true quality of it. R3 body kit?? u serious?? that makes you a RICER. disgusting..
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse too bad youre wrong, my american friend were impressed with the Gen-2's design,one of 'em said "this thing is millions better than that Chevy and Kia cheapshit" "we need this thin' in the US for fucks sake".
i meant R3 bodykit + R3 performance CPS cams + R3 ECU tuning and suspensions, 170hp tops. costs like RM10000. combine it with the manual hi-line Gen-2 CPS price, its still cheaper than the Forte.
also ori R3 bodykit is not ricey, its made for true FWD aerodynamics optimization.
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 cheaper but not safer...no ESP, Front/Side Airbags, ABS, Traction Control all of which in fact is standard in Kia forte SX. 2.0L and EX model except Side airbags. So with all the rampant reckless malaysian driving, atleast you're less likely to die on the road.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse lol not really, ever heard of Crumple Zone in a Proton? absorbs impact and destroys the body, except that the cabin is secured and you'll not injured. combine that with the high tensile roll cage (standard in every Proton), ABS (CPS standard), EBD (CPS standard too), B-EBD (CPS standard also), 2 SRS airbags (surely for a CPS Proton).
itom95 1 year ago
@ArticMuse also ESP and TCS is not needed, mainly coz the handling, tyre grip, and minimal body roll in Gen-2 CPS are already too good for a sedan/hatchback.
those ESP and TCS also decreases fuel efficiency, and tyre life, mainly coz they mainly work by applying brakes on slipping tyres. R3 small LSD addon in Protons is the way to go :)
(LSD works by transferring energy from high grip tyres to slipping tyres, so you can take faster corners/ brake hard with no danger of losing control)
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 will LSD makes ur proton "High"? hahaa
i dont know...i guess i just dont like the fact the more you buy proton the richer those malay cronies in BN...and much poorer the ordinary malay becomes. sad..my family move country btw, happy to leave malaysia.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse what kind of "high"? care to explain?
Great! we are happy to see you leaving Malaysia, this is a peaceful country, we don't need racist traitors like you.
"much poorer the ordinary malay becomes" my ass, everyday the MY economy goes up like hell after MEB introduced, closer and closer to make it a high income Wawasan 2020 country. but it only will improve the 'rakyat' life in another 10-15 years. (well there are no country that immediately improve its citizen's life in 1-2 years lol)
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 Im yet to see MEB change ppls life, its just introduced a month ago I cant comment on that. Im sorry to say the statistics brought up by one MP says malay controls 30% of the economy and falling to 20%...meanwhile, umno's enemy increased their control from 70% to 80%. Besides i live richer here, my dad has more tender and development contracts here than back in Johor to say the least. Im not alone man, many malays happily move out of malaysia.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse by who? ONE MP? lol. better don't trust him.
but if its true, then nothing special lah, everyone wanna make money, right?
lol my dad also got more contracts and make more money here lol, on house projects, city development and modernization, and others. oh yeah he's real rich.
and also things here are getting pretty cheap too, mainly the electronics, high end Sony NX LED for only RM 8,000 loolol.
you lived in Johor last time right? too bad you didn't move to Shah Alam or KL...
itom95 1 year ago
@ArticMuse oh i forgot, Proton also has the ESP system, but previously called the B-EBD system (from 1 of 3 comments i commented you before lol).
itom95 1 year ago
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ArticMuse 1 year ago
@articmuse
really? how ur uncle treat the car? i think if u well-manage the car n go for regular services these problem will not happen.
HiddenSamurai1292 2 years ago
another malaysian junk car. dont buy this car. if you do, expect power window failure, transmission failure, leaking door seal, cabin VIBRATION. you might well buy Toyota AVANZA.
Source : My uncle bought one of these.
ArticMuse 2 years ago
avanza is not very safe compare exora you know,and dont buy avanza IT very UGLY,buy national MPV PROTON EXORA or PERODUA ALZA!
TheGezt 2 years ago
atleast avanza is more reliable. its toyota everyone knows the quality.
and i might correct you that ALZA is not national car per se, its a rebadge Japanese daihatsu and toyota.
ArticMuse 2 years ago
@ArticMuse
but avanza has low quality,you can search it at youtube.
TheGezt 2 years ago
@ArticMuse
UMW TOYOTO design car for perodua from toyota model. not 100% national car.
raphict 1 year ago
@ArticMuse everyone knows that Avanza and Alza were made in the same Perodua factory.
Alza has the same engine as the Avanza. they were both reliable. please don't give other people wrong facts.
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 no wrong. avanza is not 'made' its only assembled in malaysia. it doesnt matter where you assemble car, you can assemble merc in proton factory if merc germany agree to it. (which they never will) avanza parts made in indonesia assembled in malaysia. Perodua alza and avanza uses same engine because alza is manufactured with toyota/daihatsu cooperation duhh..so i think you are still pointing out Perodua is better than Proton exora. which is ofcourse true because its not Malaysian 100%.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse duh Exora is 10000 times better than the Alza, it has more functions.
itom95 1 year ago
@ArticMuse dude,give a chance for malaysia to improve
at least this have achieved 4 stars compared to other proton cars,which is a great improvement that proton had ever done
all the nice cars like mitsubishi,mercedes,mazda,lamborghini,ferrari,etc had experience shitty performance at the beginning.
ducttaperulestheworl 2 years ago
really? how ur uncle treat the car? i think if u well-manage the car n go for regular services these problem will not happen.
HiddenSamurai1292 2 years ago
@ArticMuse its obvious that your uncle doesnt know how to send the car for regular maintenance.
if your uncle can't even do that, he only deserves a cheap bicycle
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 dont talk crap of course my uncle go service la..he got 10 000 free service moron !! as a matter of fact he sold and had naza forte instead. and i think is a good choice considering its not a malaysian crap.
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse lol Forte, the car that uses cheap torsion beam for rear suspension which has worseeee handling than Proton-Lotus multilink suspension. even Saga beats Ford Focus Ghia's handling...
seems like ur uncle dont think much..a new facelift Ford Focus 2.0 is a better choice..
but yea, Forte's pretty good choice if ur uncle drive only in town, dont drive fast and showoff the exterior..
itom95 1 year ago
4 star? kuat jugak kete ni.
TheGezt 2 years ago
that's sucks.. as close as chinese car
taufan8687 2 years ago
@taufan8687 find me a chinese car that does 4-star NCAP crash test.
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 have "Chinese electric Car Saibao jointly developed by China's Tianjin Qingyuan Electric Vehicle Company and Hafei Auto Group recently passed Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS)'s 40mph frontal offset impact test. This is the first time a Chinese electric vehicle has passed the test. Saibao, scored US-NCAP (United States New Car Assessment Program) 4 stars."
ArticMuse 1 year ago
@ArticMuse well thats pretty good :)
itom95 1 year ago
unsafe car
julianlee2 2 years ago
Hm, ini menarik.
Kalau EURO NCAP, Exora dapat berapa star ?
mkz24 2 years ago
4 star of 5 star.
TheAdvanze 2 years ago
macam la kau buat kete kuat sangat,dah sah kalau kau buat kete satu bintang NCAP pun takan dapat hancur meletup boom!!!
TheGezt 2 years ago
aku sokong kau TheGezt,padan muka tubeniq!!
TheAdvanze 2 years ago
gua sokong lu kimliy. cara bawak keta cam sial bkn takat orag je mati gajah pun mati kalau kena langgar
apakebendani1 2 years ago
apa apa pun crash test.. EURO ECE94 KE, NCAP KE, yang penting bawa kereta dengan selamat! test tu hanya tunjuk angka ja, tapi kalau sendiri pun bawak macam sial, kereta apa pun, confirm mati punya!
kimliy 2 years ago
You might as well drive a car made of aluminum.
csihardfan111 2 years ago
pelik btul... tunjuk test... salah, tak tunjuk pn, salah...
autojohndoe 2 years ago
i support proton
zariham1 2 years ago
yes yes go to hellllll....agreeeeeeeeed
blackmarshallxp 2 years ago
Bagi aku,Exora ini adalah salah satu model proton yang paling tahan bodynya dengan terbuktinya car crash test ini.Memang remukkan berlaku sedemikian dan anda boleh melihat bagaimana Mercedes dan BMW juga mengalami remukan seperti itu.5 Tumbs untuk Proton!
paishz 2 years ago
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giloko2208 2 years ago
eleh cherry mpv yg berlambak dlm mesia lagi teruk crash test! cuba ko taip "cherry crash test" ko tau tak kereta china 0 % survival crash tau compom death..
impakmaksemah 2 years ago
lol compom
Qibai 2 years ago
baru langgar dalm 35km/h dah mcm tu..kalau 80-90km..alamat bungkus macam tapai la...aduhai proton..tingkatkanlah kualiti & keselamatan..
babunjantan 2 years ago
all car tests (proton, mercedes, toyota etc.) are done around 35km/h into a deformable block. Few cars will have a survival rate when hit at 80-90km.. but the reason for 35 because thats the standard speed of impact after braking is applied, car makers EXPECT drivers to break before an impact. You dont keep on accelerating after seeing a car heading towards you, even in a split second.. you brake..duh. So read up about Crash Tests.
farhathaniff 2 years ago
ok la tu...diorg buat crash test,cuba ko tgok tempat duduk depan x hancur pon...
sychronezar 2 years ago 3
GO PROTON...GO TO HELLLL !!!
palehotaxkaw 2 years ago
look at 0.14 front bonnet like lipat macam kain batik. is beautiful ....
lostboy5 2 years ago
korang tgk cerita mr bean sumbat bola golf dlm x zos kereta proton pon dh meletop hahaha
studiokembara22 2 years ago
@studiokembara22 sume keta mcm tu, kalo exhaust gas tak escape, pressure naik, meletop lah engine. kalo Mr bean buat kat ferrari pon same jugak..
itom95 1 year ago
hopefully this one safety rating is good since our very waja only can make it to 2.5/5 star safety rating...we are talking about mpv,a people carrier...the safety of multiple passenger must be not taken for granted...go proton!!
blackmarshallxp 2 years ago
toyota wish pon remuk gak..
biase la tuh crash test
korang ni x blaja fizik ke pe?
/watch?v=G1OCKb-jckA
kelubi2003 2 years ago
Apa kejadah korang merepek....
Proton kompeni malaysia, kita patut sokong.
Tak suka beli keta lain.....tak mampu, diam jgn berlagak pandai. Dah la mmiskin takda duit nk beli keta...ada hati nk kutuk Proton tuh..apa inggat dia Jeremy Clarkson ke. AT least dia kutuk dapat duit. Korang yg kutuk tu...dapat apa tah....cari la awek.
apalagiboleh 2 years ago
ya btol!
kutuk je tau lol!
meter pon x tau nk buat!
nk complain je!
amir5719 2 years ago
even is not a nice car,
at least proton had tried or accomplish something..
built a car...
hahahha
Adly91 2 years ago
aku kalu ada pitis lebih toksir aku paka proton serik doh weh
kgjawek 2 years ago
nampaknya proton sudah improve safety standard,enjin pun POWER 125 bhp proton dah nak same standard dengan kereta jepun/korean
asuradagyu 2 years ago
jgn bimbang...proton adalah kenderaan yg paling selamat sekali dlm dunia ni,walaupun dibom dgn bom atom dan nuklear sekalipun,penumpang dan pemandu di dlm masih lagi selamat,tak percaya cubalah uji sendiri,kereta kebal pun kalah...... : )
vochelle1005 2 years ago 2
takbur...
KorWeng 2 years ago
ahahaha....yaa betol tu brader... bengong punya kereta. Kata ada safety standard tu dan ni...tapi semua optional. Enjin Campro...nama je glamour...tapi bila bawa rasa macam enjin tu yang control pemandu...
jethunter 2 years ago
proton cool
proton kete dia semua power..(kecuali 1999 kebawah x berapa safe masuk 2000 semua power.)
sapa yg dok kutuk tu sbb dia x de kete.. cian
exora smart cial!
alilawaz 2 years ago
Mana-mana kereta berlanggar pun semua remuk.Berapa banyak kereta BMW dgn Merz accident mampus jugak aku tengok.Tapi design Exora ni aku tak berapa suka la.Lampu depan macam nak tiru Toyota Wish.Designer kat RnD Proton ni takder taste ke.Masa tengah buat Model pakai tanah liat tu takkan korang tak perasan Exora ni ada nampak macam HAWAU sikit.Berani la sikit pakai IDEA sendiri.Jgn dok Copy Paste je kerjanya.
ReentryCapsule 2 years ago
hmmmm......
lol kalo cam tu ko jela kasi idea haha
alilawaz 2 years ago
Sape yg kutuk Proton tu maknanya dia takder Kereta.Statement kau macam PUNDEK.Kau jangan nak memuji melampau sangat la Proton.Memang ada Model Proton yg aku suka macam Perdana V6.Tapi kebanyakkannya HAWAU.Kilang Proton pun kau tak pernah masuk.Sebab tu membuta tuli.Kalau kau nak tahu seatbealt kau punya skru tu diorang bukan kasi TORK betul-betul pun.Cuma letak je Grease MERAH tu kunun dah TORK la.Padahal longgar.Kau je BODOH!
ReentryCapsule 2 years ago
haha lol....
alilawaz 2 years ago
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yastross 2 years ago
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proton gay..
xnarcotix 2 years ago
sume yang cakap proton tak bagus bongok
donnaopi 2 years ago
ada bukti ke semua org cakap proton x bagus si pandir?
aenz81 2 years ago
Jgn pedulikan si donnaopi tu, aenz81. He is trying to be cool. Lesen memandu pun silap2 takde lagi beb. Spesis monyet mcm dia mmg ada lagi dlm Malaysia ni beb. Tapi tak ramai cam dulu. Cayalah Exora!
DeWaNaGa69 2 years ago 5
haha.. sampai hati ko cakap dia mcm tu.. kang marah spesis monyet yg lain pulak hehe...
aenz81 2 years ago
this is not too bad right? haha
metalgear32 2 years ago
ok wat ... u still think proton need to do more in order to improve their cars!!!
pepgodila 2 years ago
ok la tu...mana ada keta accident tak remuk?kalu u blajar fizik, keta yg selamat adalah keta yang lembut di bahagian depan sb dia telah menukarkan tenaga hentakan kepada tenaga remukan dan selagi dia tidak meremukkan zon kerangka penumpang/pemandu.Jd exora ni ok laa..
moyib77 2 years ago
diharap lepas ni proton dapat cipte kereta yg paling tahan lasak sekali dlm dunia,mcm kereta presiden obama,kalis peluru,kalis bom,kalis nuklear,kalis apa lagi???
vochelle1005 2 years ago
Nak tengok Proton Exora Berlanggar dengan Renault E-Space.
wanyusri84 2 years ago
35 KMH enjin dah rosak teruk. Haram la aku nak beli.
zenkerin 2 years ago
macam tu you lebih suka engin ok, tapi you sendiri mati. pandai betul.
fliedlice88 2 years ago
dia lebih suka enjin ok,nyawa ok laaa.... lol
joesiollah 2 years ago
not what i mean la. i mean, itu baru 56kmh. bayangkan kalau 100kmh, apa jadi? mesti la driver dengan passenger tu remuk habis tubuh badan sebab enjin lebih dulu hancur. just a piece of me. bukan tidak menyokong buatan tempatan tapi sedikit frust kerana kualiti yang di export melebihi kualiti untuk orang kita pakai. sian orang malaysia kena tipu hidup2.
jangan marah ye.. u org kerja kat proton kah? hehe.
zenkerin 2 years ago
btul3x.... sokong.
joesiollah 2 years ago
spec untuk test ni barangkali sudah standard. boleh jadi kebarangkalian pemandu menekan brek sudah diambil kira menjadikan kelajuan berkurangan kepada lingkungan yang diuji.maaf, saya masih pelajar kejuruteraan dan aspek penilaian keselamatan ni belum sampai lagi..cuma pendapat saya kemungkinan kenapa diuji dengan kelajuan tersebut.
iLLusiOnEr 2 years ago
tapi x kan la 35kmh pun dah remuk tahap gaban gitu? bahaya woo..
zenkerin 2 years ago
aku rasa ko ni org perodua.. tak pun org toyota, tak pun honda ataupun ko keja ngan syarikat nama chery ataupun Tata kot?
cuba ko carikan aku video crash test keta jepun ke eropah ke, china ke yg speed dia 100km/h.. dah tgk video crash test keta luar negara ke? engine bay dia masih ok ke tak selepas crash? tahu apa itu crumple zone? ada bukti ke yg kualiti import lebih baik dari kualiti tempatan?
aenz81 2 years ago
laa... zenkerin, takkan tanya pasal crumple zone je ko terus diam.. bagilah cabaran sikit..
I find out that ur comment is quite childish. So, no point to arguing with u base on ur childish comment due to lacks of true facts. I'll consider it's as "kalah jadi abu, menang jadi arang" if the argument still ongoing. I hope u giving a proper comment with useful information next time. And please be mature.
aenz81 2 years ago
xpe lah. ko pandai, ko jawabkan je la untuk aku. aku nak tepuk tangan jek pasni kalau salah satu lagi keter tin milo ni eksiden teruk apa jadi. sama kot. aku tidak akan berpuas hati selagi pembekal kereta tempatan tidak membuat kereta untuk kegunaan orang tempatan SAMA DENGAN KUALITI YANG DIIMPORT! ada faham?
*bodo la lu..
zenkerin 2 years ago
Lu lagi bodo, sejak lu tahu sgt yg proton keta tin milo tu, aku nak tahu.. apa tin milonya tu? ada seorg pekerja utk syarikat membekal "sheet metal" tempatan utk buat body keta.. dia cakap yg syarikat dia membekalkan meterial itu utk keta toyota, perodua, honda dan proton.. dia cakap, proton pakai sheet metal yg paling tebal dan disaluti lapisan cat sekarang ni.. manakala T, H dan P2 menggunakan sheet metal yg nipis dan plain.
aenz81 2 years ago
chasis Exora menggunakan "SUPER GALVAZINED METAL" dibekalkan oleh syarikat korea, "POSCO"..
sementara keta jepun masih lagi menggunakan "GALVAZINED METAL".. kat tempat aku tinggal ada seorg cina menggunakan model Proton waja UK spec.. nama model itu IMPIAN.. aku pernah bercakap dgn dia, kualiti ada beza dgn yg local? dia cakap kualiti sama je, cuma ada sedikit aksessori tambahan sebab IMPIAN tu lebih mahal berbanding waja pada masa dulu..
aenz81 2 years ago
cari fakta dulu sebelum membuat andaian encik zenkerin pandai... zaman tin milo dah berakhir.. agaknya ko sedar tak yg management Proton dah berubah tgn? ko tahu yg Proton dibawah MD yg baru? semua andaian yg ko buat tu berdasarkan kisah lama Proton.. come on.. wake up.. we're moving forward.. if u're not come along with us, u'll be left behind...
aenz81 2 years ago
cuit sikit dah melenting. bukan mengata dier pon. lawak la ko ni. lalala..
*biarkan orang bodoh bercakap sendirian.. haha.
zenkerin 2 years ago
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aenz81 2 years ago
haha.. kan ko suruh aku jawab soalan ko kan? ttg kualtit keta proton utk export dan local sama ke tidak?
a ah... org pandai mcm ko ni mmg suka membuat andaian yg tidak berasas.. syabas.. bangga makbapak ko dgn ko nih.. hahaha ko ni mmg raja lawak...
aenz81 2 years ago
har3. bodo btol la melenting sampai gini skali - orang x kutuk dier pown. wakaka. ni pencacai proton ni. menegakkan benang yang basah. kalau dah xde kualiti tu, admit je lah wahai engineer haprak a.k.a tidak berduit. yang ko duk pertahan sangat tu, ko beli ke x? ke xde duit? kan muarah? sama kualiti (kononnya) dengan kereta buatan luar. muahahaha.
*aku bukan tidak menyokong produk malaysia tapi aku benci!
zenkerin 2 years ago
sian aku dgn ko ni.. cakap mcm org byk duit, tapi tgk dari umur ko ni mmg ko ni xder keta sendiri.. jgn kata nak pakai keta mahal yg berkualiti, pakai keta murah mcm proton pun ko tak mampu.. har3!
aku bukan nak menegakkan benang yg basah, bukan nak melenting.. cuma aku nak betulkan andaian yg tak berasas dari kamu yg bodoh sombong. Eh, yg ko melenting sampai mcm ni sekali pehal ha? bukan aku kutuk ko pun. aku cuma bangunkan ko dari mimpi siang.. bukti video yg jelas mcm ni pun masih kutuk?
aenz81 2 years ago
hahah
shyang12 2 years ago
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aenz81 2 years ago
Keta yg ko pkai skg ko dh selidik ke crash test dia? Silap2 x de ponn..sbb ape??? sebab utk market asia jeee...hehehehe...
yastross 2 years ago
kalau 100Kmh mcm mana plak.. x de video ke.. jarang org bawak bwh 50Kmh xsident tgolek / langgar tembok
takashisupreme 2 years ago
klau 100kmh agak aku setengah dari kereta tu dah hancus,hehe....
joesiollah 2 years ago
orang Malaysia beli kereta sport NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R pun bawa mesti hancur depan dia macam dalam video ni (tahun 2008).. baru je lancar di Malaysia beli dah langgar teruk terus buang jadi scrap sebab enjin NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R mahal sungguh..
watch?v=1uGYGxF39KA
petronasracingfan 2 years ago
takashisupreme, kalo ko bwk 100km/h dan terasa nak langgar keta kat depan, ko tekan brek ataupun tidak? apa yg ko akan buat dlm keadaan panik? apa agaknya speed ko semasa ko langgar keta kat depan tu? Tahu apa itu crumple zone? langgar benda yg berganjak dan tidak berganjak, sama tak "momentum" dia dan kadar pelupusan impak hentakan sama tak? Kalo langgar tembok 100km/h kat mana tu? kat dlm kawasan perumahan ko drive 100kmh ke? bangunanan btl2 berada ditepi jln ke? soalan critical thinking nih.
aenz81 2 years ago
kalau boleh buat crash test dari tepi, dan kamera tunjuk kat bahagian kaki nak tengok dia punya tempat pijak miyak dan brek tu terangkat ke tak.
rollover crash test, chasis tengah nampak memang kuat.. front crash test, nampaknya memang enjin dia rosak teruk, tapi nampak cermin tak pecah, orang dalam tu nampak macam selamat.
kalau aku mungkin bagi 3 1/2 bintang sebab tak ada crash test dari tepi dan kamera tak tunjuk apa jadi pada tempat kaki pemandu.
harap lepas ni ada video yang lebih detail
petronasracingfan 2 years ago
wow!!! superb car
muddle 2 years ago
An acheivement for Proton indeed.They are aiming for 4 to 5 stars! I remember Waja was 2 1/2 stars.
bryanwahl 2 years ago
not bad
ketaq 2 years ago