Yellow vs Sonkie @ Blizzcon SC2 Community Match Set 2 - P2of2

[Jockberg]

Haha, thees guys play like shit.

[Reubenenski]

@Jockberg they had the alpha for a very short time m8 :)

[aybeeceeboi]

turrible turrible damage!

[deathwalker8000]

terrible terrible damage

[mapleridgevancouver]

one high templar would take those hydras out

[will5125]

wow idiots, it costs 5 freaking dollars to get a beta key, go preorder it from gamestop.. 5 BUCKS...

[Despotaca]

Why dont we ahve this map in sc2 >_>

[cutiepe2ce]

@nightAgent89 mate where do you get to download SC2 beta? i WANT TO PLAY IT T-T

[0zz1988]

yellow is the korean gay?

[califragus7]

yellow is the korean guy?

[iamwalls]

Zerg might have won.. the whole back door entry with the new expansion could be the winning factor..

But then again, he's a WC3 player against a famous Korean SC player..

[Nautilus987]

PROTOSS WON?

[FiReFeeT666]

sonkie sucks at sc2, sonkie sucks at wc3..

[BenIGreen]

The fact that the two collosus dropped at the 3 o'clock expansion killed virtually no drones is evidence that they have been nerfed a bit too hard by the dev team.

And I agree with others that the vespene gas shut-off is going to be obnoxious in heavy macro games when each base has 2 geysers. That means 10 geysers running with about 30 drones that you need to be moving onto and off of production all the time. I hope they remove that. Really.

[Gamer777777]

well... who won?!

[RMZ1989]

Yellow of course...

[balabalayt]

overwhelmed by the stalkers and immortals

[Bowlao2]

man i wana see the mother ship but they keep attacking each other over and over so they don't have time for building and stuff

[LokNarash]

They won't build it, as the cost/benefit ratio of the mothership is way too low. Also, it moves ridiculously slow and you need proxy pylons everywhere to effectively move the thing.

It will - assuming the MS stays the way it is now - probably be a rare sight in pro matches....

[BenIGreen]

couldn't you fly in with a warp prism then just pop the MS right on top of a base, then turn on the planet cracker or some such?

[lobotomizer123]

Who won the game?

[Spintye]

They should revert the Collosus to the devastating powerhouse is was but only allow 1 or 2 of them in play at a time.

[Fractal8359]

I know colossi have range 6 upgradable to 9. Should they just have range from the beginning to be more effective?

Having said that colossi do suck on their own, much more effective 3+, greater than the sum of their parts

[dman519]

yeah picture a reaver in place of the colossi. there would have been piles of peons, lings, and hydras. colossi do terrible dmg? not really.

[nocbl2]

They don't seem to build much buildings....

[atik48]

niice demonstration of warp in

[zworld84ALMA]

"TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE"

lmao, qft

[signoaspire]

The Colossus is SHIT now. In EVERY video you see them get owned by everything they faced. Here you can see one almost got owned by 5 Zerlings!!!! 150 damage from 5 zerglings.

You need at least 3 to be effective, and it costs so much that for 3 colossi u can get something else much better.

[ltuuY41k]

I remember at the first protoss unit demonstartion colossi had something like 400/325 hp/sp now it's 200/150 what gives!

[Aldrius]

It was... too powerful...?

[anakataSC]

bring back revear or buff colossus

[GanjaGanja89]

now that toss cant turtle and win you are upset?

[spiritlight9k]

read the friggin description trolls, yellow won a

[Aldrius]

True. Which is why I think they reworked it a bit.

It now does 45 splash, but it's attack cooldown is longer. (So it takes longer to fire between attacks.)

[Aldrius]

Yeah, apparently at Blizzcon 07 and stuff they slaughtered pretty much everything when you had one or two... I think they just need to find a happier balance. From the sounds of it, it's stats have recently been changed so it does more damage in one shot, but it's overall dps has been reduced.

And yeah, it needs something to absorb damage, like a group of zealots or whatever. Otherwise Zerglings/etc. will just swarm it and kill it. I think this makes for better design.

[zapperxxx]

WTF WHO WON!?!? O_O

[shrunkdestroyer]

Yellow

[tlswhdgjs]

ahhh it looks like wc3

[drrrerr]

where's part 3 WTF

[rigell04]

i think the new gas harvesting shut down is going to get extremely annoying. i hope they take it out

[daveprince13]

Collossi are worthless. Worst unit ever.

[FuManChu]

they def need to be reworked. I've yet to see anyone get their moneys worth with them.

[daveprince13]

Ya me neither. At the beginning of this video the colossi barely get two drone with 8 swipes between the two of them. It's ridiculous. I've seen a vid where six swipes from one didn't kill a hydra. They are a complete waste. The developers keep trying to push and say that they can be "devastating" with numbers of them but they are only eating their words. That unit isn't going to be used in the game if it stays like this.

[Aldrius]

Keep in mind that the Colossi were unbelievably overpowered in previous events.

So what they're trying to do now is make their damage higher in the short term, but keeping it the same in the long-term.

[bLoodNeBuLa]

rvr much better for harassing

[TangoDelta29]

If I was a developer I would be embarrassed that fans saw the Colossi  like.... that.

[erikouwehand]

WHEN DID THEY REMOVED THE PHYSICS!

[DanielofDemeter]

is it just me or the collosus is.. meh?

[sharpdemon]

i dun like the new gas mod

[Jst0911]

when the collosus was dropped on the 3 o'clock expansion i think it killed 0 drones haha

[androgenik]

Colossi are completely useless.

[ConKarbon]

Not really. Get 5 of them with 20 zealots and your good to go.

[BenIGreen]

that's absurd. you shouldn't need 5 of them AND 20 zealots before they start being useful.

[patchhacker]

Dude they are awesome with a unit blocking for em espically against a zergling spammer just pumping no teching collosi need meat shields

[GreedyMC]

They lose vs mele units: / theyre prob like siege tanks 30 zerglings>2 sige tanks ie 30 zerglings>>2 collosus

[019ken]

omg. collosus is soo weak !!!

[vlad10090]

whar spec do u need 4 this game cuz i dont think my pc can take it if not ima buy another:P:P:P pls reply

[Ryan7395]

Google is your friend.

[YorkeKin]

Where is the macro?

[C0zmo69]

where the hell can i watch the end of this match?

[cloudsreturn]

colossus sucks. 6 or 7 zerglings tear them apart. That warp prism thing is seriously insane though. So good at rushing.

[champignones]

i agree, blizzard is testing right now how to improve collosus, let see how it turns out.

[hodlpu]

Played SC1? 6 or 7 hydralisks can kill a BC.

I don't see anyone complaining about that...

[XxLink4life]

wow this is realy actully getting good

[Yunliner]

3:40

[dragoons9009]

Where is the ENDING?

[pikmin12345]

terrible terrible damage, that cracks me up every time

[blizzta1]

hopefully, they fix the colossus. or have extreme upgrades for them.

[ZeroZum1990]

LOL at 2:30, use 2 reavers against that many hydras and not a single one would be left standing. Colosuss seems really useless.

[brainwasher9876]

agreed...the I always thought the colossus was overrated. This video proves it.

Anti zergling my ass, reavers would have had them for breakfast.

[DaFleegsta]

its only in certain situations will the collosus ever be extremely useful, blizz seemed to intend is on using the hill climb ability alot, so in a case with cliffs in the area collosus is prob useful..

but ya i agree i wish it was still better..

[C0zmo69]

i dont know you never see this guy use more than 2 collosus at a time. i bet with 4 firing at once theyd be way more affective with the stacked splash damage

[DaFleegsta]

true, but im sure theres another protoss unit with better splash dmg in group of 4

[msoulja]

Nydus Worm would have been GG

[undeadnightorc]

I would rather have reavers over colossus. Sure reaver ai sucked, but they were so much more dramatic to watch when they went to attack workers. Good reaver/shuttle micro is a sight to see and you can really respect a players skill when they can properly use them.

[ChummyChime]

did i hear Hydras are weak against land units? lol. are you kidding me? they really are bias, they like the toss.

[rockslavesoft]

It's predictable that Sonkie isn't as good as Yellow, but at least he could have showed us more tech =P. And damn, those new shuttles look cool to use!

[n8iveidiot13]

i thought it was an oversized observor lol i was like wow they really went all out with the cameras

[wizardoflarn]

I'm really looking forward to playing this game!

Though it's only one out of thousands of aspects, I am afraid to watch the extremely cool collussus become completely useless!

It's probably way too expensive and it doens't seem to deal out or take enough damage to legitimate this! :-(

[gvjuiceman1]

Stalkers aren't imba against zerg...obvoiusly non of you have played the game. Sonkie just plain sucks why can't anyone see that. He plays worse than any starcraft player would with even basic knowledge of the race. If sonkie would just get lurkers he could GG no RE yellow easily both games...maybe a nydus worm ?? I mean gawd this guy is terrible.

[champignones]

sonkie used lurkers near the end of the game, so dont talk without seeing the full video.

[bubomatic5]

Wouldn't it make sense to leave a stalker on a cliff and when lings came to attack it, it could just walk down the cliff, and then the lings would go back down..and repeat?

[baekacaek]

stalkers need to be toned down and colossus toned up a little imo. so much resources and tech for something that sucks against buildings and cant attack air. not to mention it sucks against melee as well

[MadeinHell2]

Well... i think that colossus has potential, but only from over the cliff/ behind other units. Zerglings did a quick job with them and that is a horrible loss...

[OMFGlearntoplay]

Ummm, so they cost 3 times as much as siege tanks, have less range, and are hit by anti-air... but they are good as siege units? Hardly. They obviously either need to make them cost less, or bump them up to be comparable to reavers for teh cost.

[ironlifter21]

The full version is at blizzcon2008 site, @ video archives. Sonkie(Zerg) does really good at keeping pressure on Yellow(ptoss) untile Yellow makes stalkers. Toss are op to zerg right now.

[infrogsreturn]

Thanks for telling me. It was a good match. :)

[Velosirraton]

Stalkers are imba against zergs

[crbb0]

Hmm, Collosus doesn't seem as interesting as Reavers.

[MorshuTheShopKeeper]

hmm, no one gives a shit

[crbb0]

lol internetz

[keunwp]

i agree. imagine what kind of damage cound have been done if they were reavers.

[grimnoob]

Because they were microed poorly, he didn't use them to walk up the cliffs in offense or defense. Oh, you probably meant "powerful" instead of interesting, people know what a reaver does for about a decade now, it's not interesting.

[Velosirraton]

Collosus Don't seem imba as reavers

[Kogerii]

Zerg wins?

[mcbstopper15]

toss wins...mass stalkers eventually overpower zerg. IMO zerg are terribly weak right now.

[Kogerii]

I haven't seen 'em win a game 'cept one that was up here (can't find it now, may've been taken down) where the Zerg player used the Infestors abilities. In the current build they can summon Infested Terrans and do AoE damage from underground. They were powerful and tearing up the enemy army.

[backow]

"And it turns out I didn't capture the end of the game. Hopefully someone else has the game, or even better, the HD DirectTV stream."

Does somebody have it?

[waltermh111]

yellow is the protoss right?

either way, he is doing a terrible job with his colossus this match. Its not meant as front line unit, its meant as a cliff attacker. Or at least in battles where theres a cliff nearby.

Especially the colossus is bad against quick zerglings and you would think he would have learned that after the first losses

[Elkhwind]

sonkie - mass tower noob from warcraft

[waltermh111]

huh?

i am actually surprised i havent been seeing any defenses from sonkie in either game.

[end1st]

55 what ?

[Drewboy64]

noooo I need my Sc2 fix

[jokey665]

wtf just cuts off halfway through the match? no part 3?

[Plmokn238]

It seems like some of the video's been cut off.

[HamTard]

is the end missing?

[ExileStrife]

ack, that's what I get for not watching what I upload...

[ExileStrife]

And it turns out I didn't capture the end of the game. Hopefully someone else has the game, or even better, the HD DirectTV stream.