Sinking the USS Vermilion

[unabnats]

20/20 hindsight. A frustrating hobby. How could the Allies not have P-47s giving close air support? Why were the paratroopers not dressed in breakaway flight suits to be able to unburden themselves of gear and outer clothing in one movement upon entering flooded fields, where many landed and immediately drowned. Why didn't they put a few tanks directly into the Higgins Boats? Why did all the Higgins Boats open from the front? Couldn;t a few been sacrificed by going in empty right into the beach?

[Robbob9933]

@unabnats Tanks were far too large to fit on Higgins boats, The instant release parachute harness had not been invented yet, there were no empty beaches, if the Higgins boats opened at the back, no one would have made it on the beach. Every available plane was performing close air support. Lessons learned in the Pacific were applied at Normandy. Destroyers provided 'point blank' fire support.

[unabnats]

The gunpowder could be towed and placed behind the ship, with pulleys or something for transfer. The Luftwaffe did not respond to DDay. Maybe they didn't know that would be the case though.

[unabnats]

I got into this discussion to ask something. These ships have finned (not flat bottomed) hulls. What happens if one get grounded by getting to near the shallows of a beach. Will it tip over right away, drowning all below, or can it be made to stay upright? It's said that at Omaha beach, some ship captains risked grouning to get close enough to see through the smoke. Thereby having use of the big guns. And it worked. Maybe, I thought, that should have been a policy. Perhaps even use river boats.

[cammoman45]

@vibratingstring also i understand about the Olympia, it should stay as is because it is the last of it's kind. With the WW2 ships there are a bounty of them yes, but are they so un important that they should be sunk/ made into a stove, no.

[vibratingstring]

@cammoman45

Well, most of them are razorblades, or on the bottom with an Axis torpedo hole...the naval carnage of WWII was mind-boggling...

[cammoman45]

@vibratingstring truth-fully they should be made into a new warship ,aka cut into tiny pieces and melted into metal sheets then made into a hull ect.

[ukusapillage]

instead of using the metal for other things... americans have alot of everything at their disposal i see

[cammoman45]

@vibratingstring what i think (to revise i guess ) either they should be put in a museum or cut into pieces and made into a new war ship you cant disagree with them living as they did before so well another form of museum a war ship to me

[vibratingstring]

@cammoman45

Well, there really isn't any point in making another Liberty Ship museum. One of the best and coolest of all *living* maritime museums already has that covered: orldideeb sdot liberty-ship sdot com_

A former colleague was on the board of directors for that organisation...

[cammoman45]

these ships should be put into a museum not a grave 

[vibratingstring]

@cammoman45

Who is going to pay for that museum? We already have too many WWII battleships. Meanwhile, the ONLY 1890s battleship left, the OLYMPIA, in Philadelphia, is at risk of going to the breakers...

[MrCriticOfAll]

WOFTAM.

[MadHawk8]

R.I.P

[gusneaker]

Pity no underwater images as she was sinking! Thanks for sharing this vid!

[arturkiller]

dude, i live in America, being from Russia, i see everyday that Americans are a bunch of ignorant, fat, greedy, selfish people. sure an American created a lightbulb, or we watch the movies made here. But all that shit is made by the smart inteligent people, which is a rare case here in the states. attacking a country for oil? sticking your noses EVERYWHERE in the world! why do you think so many ppl hate america?

[ballkans]

@arturkiller Just one reminder my broder from USSSR, Light bulb they just wish it is their man, but its not, it is my country man Nikola Tesla,, anyway Americans are known to steal scientists , buy em up so they say, AMERICAN DID IT,..fuck em..

[arturkiller]

@ballkans you make a very good point my friend. now that i think of it that is really true. FUCK EM! haha

[unabnats]

@ballkans Umm......Stealing scientists? All's fair in love and war, they say. So, I won't blame USSR for spying and stealing USA technology. We do same. But by the same token, don't whine about it either. The USSR obtained the A-bomb by spying. It reverse engineered a captured B-29, and built a whole fleet of them, even though by then obsolete. So stop complaining. Anyway, we both should guard against China, comrade.

[Unguidedone]

liberty ships are rare there is on point to sinking one :(

[gabriel120609]

what a stupid thing, they should have scrapped it, where is recycling and all those things about beeing "green" with this planet that all the amercican say???

[joetubealong]

@gabriel120609 Blah Blah Blah!!!! Man am I sick and tired of all of these FUCKING FORIGNERS coming on our (American Made) video sharing sight and saying rotten shit about us!!! We can only recycle so much shit before it puts the companies out of business that make new steel!! We need these industries because we have lost so many. Yea we Americans talk about recycling and alot of other shit! But what the fuck do you people do down in Argentina do?

[logun94]

@joetubealong suck my english balls , dickhead americans are retarded simple as you dont even understand sarcasm !

[joetubealong]

Maybe if you people in other countries stopped watching our movies and stopped listening to our music you wouldn't have so much to HATE about us!! I see people from all over the world on Youtube talking Shit about America and saying bad shit about my fellow countrymen, and I say to my self."If these people hate us so much why do they use so much of our technology?" Like the Computer the lightbulb, the Telivision the compact disc.Youtube, Facebook, Google, Windowsxp and Windows 7 and much more!!

[ct1p5]

@joetubealong The first programmable computer was built by the British in WWII. Edison refined and improved the electric filament lightbulb, he didn't invent it. The television was invented by a Scotsman, John Logie Baird. The compact disc was invented by Phillips, a Dutch company. The world wide web was invented by an Englishman, Tim Berners Lee, in Switzerland. You can keep Windows though, it's f***ing shit!

[ballkans]

@joetubealong Your technology??? American technology??:)) lol... why u make one more American to be so stupid?:) Let me tell u and all Americans that do not know or dont wanna know, where US has technology from. See just after WWII Americans gave Asylym to about 50 top WORLD scientist from Nazi Germany, including one who was the best, his name was Warner Broun, who toghether w other Germans made America what it is tofay, he actualy started NASA,, and dont forget bout my Countrymen, NIKOLA TESLA

[vibratingstring]

@ballkans

Learn to spell. It is Wernher von Braun. No, he didn't start NASA but he was central to its development.

Whether "technology" is "American" or not, the fact is that many great inventors have had to come here to see their ideas have even a chance of success as their home countries were too corrupt and enslaved to allow that.

It is new people and ideas, and a nation based on equality and freedom, that makes America what it is, warts and all.

[ballkans]

@vibratingstring About my spelling "that is very cheap statment wich i heard so many times from Americans like you,,, i mean u do understand me do you dickhead?:) ofcourse u do, so dont come to me with my spelling, i speak over 4 languages, come from part of the world where romans tried to concour us but could not,couse we were barbarians, took over Rome too, so just shut up.. how old is your town? and about Germans and Japaneese,they were and they still are running shit in any way in this world

[vibratingstring]

@ballkans

So I guess your language and comprehension skills got rather watered down by those four languages.

Sheesh.

Age of town? Typical eurotrash comment.

Too bad we might mostly agree. But if you "high horse" someone, you sound really stupid if you cannot even spell. You sound even dumber when you get some of your facts wrong. WVB did not invent NASA. NACA became NASA, and the aircraft guys were initially not so keen with the WVB rockets...they wanted to fly into space...

[unabnats]

@ballkans Hey, don't get me wrong. I respect your opinion, I really do. And I sympathize with your trouble spelling. But, spelling isn't that important. I think maybe when you're angry, your thoughts get ahead of your context. In other words, maybe your word ORDER is off a little. Many foreign speakers do this, and an affirmative, can come out like a negative. I do get the basic thought you trying to convey. But others might not. Maybe I can help. If you wish, friend me, and we can discuss.

[unabnats]

@ballkans To continue........I an willing to proof any post you write to make it clearer. I don't agree with everything you write, but that is not the point. I'm just offering help. Anyone who knows 4 languages, and is interested in history, is worth helping, and knowing, to me. You probably know Russian. Which I believe has the largest vocabulary of the major languages. Plus, a different alphabet.Your pride of your culture, and self-deprecating (we were barbarians) humor is charming.

[ballkans]

@vibratingstring You know what:) i do not know if u lady or not but u sound like one and i do not wanna go in to inteligent conversations w American woman,, i v been with soo many i know everything i have to know bout your kind, so no more politics w you ok: and just one more thing,, U all trash europeans , who didnt have nothin came to America and killed almost all real Americans (Indians) shame on u

[vibratingstring]

@ballkans

That's almost completely unintelligible. Please try writing in Spanish, German, or French, if you know one of them. I certainly can't make heads nor tails of what you just said, in English.

[unabnats]

@ballkans Please help ME understand. And I am man. Are you trashing Europeans who came to USA? Or, trashing Americans for trashing Europeans? It really is unclear. Also, what about Russians? They conquered the Balkans and killed many of THEM! Are you angry about that? If not, why not? Or, are you Russian yourself? In which case, YOU are the imperialist. What Russians did to the Balkans is as bad (well, not quite) as what happened to Native Americans.

[unabnats]

@vibratingstring Have to disagree with you here. Von Braun was a Nazi Scientist, who used slave labor, who surrendered to Americans rather than Russuans, because he figured he'd get away with whatever War Crimes commited be offering his sevices to the USA military. And it worked. He had no trouble with corruption and slavery, and equality? In 1945? Give me a break. Our record of letting Nazis off the hook, for expediency, was a disgusting, even shocking, fact that is well documented and still

[duikerdis]

@gabriel120609 It's costly to scrap that ship, because of asbestos... (there is lots of asbestos used in building warships) so they just sink that ship... greedy bustards...

[iflifegivesyoumelon1]

CHUCK NORRIS IS SO FUCKING OVER RATED!!! I HATE HIM!!! BRUCE LEE IS BETTER!!!!

[asdfghjkl6025]

@iflifegivesyoumelon1 what does that have to do with this ??????

[iflifegivesyoumelon1]

@asdfghjkl6025 everyone keeps saying "oh chuck norris can blah blah blah" and its ephing IRRITATING!!!!!

[asdfghjkl6025]

@iflifegivesyoumelon1 ohh ok

[Gryphonalia]

It's a victory ship, not a liberty ship, liberties had much stubbier bows.

[blackplague2011]

Long live the USS Vermilion!

[TheJoshua12104]

Chuck norris was on board

[IMadeThisForRock]

I wish they wouldnt have scrapped the original Enterprise

that ship was a winning machine..

R.I.P.

[manthony1956]

Noble ending. The notes say this is a Liberty Ship, I thought the hulls were made of concrete?

[giannivee1]

i think they got enough holes in it to sink it

[KenMacMillan]

I'd like to see a video of it being pushed along the sea floor.

[Taskforce1x1]

No one thinks to put mics under the water . I wanna hear bulkheads collapsing and sounds of debris and when it hits the ocean floor.

[imkoolkiller99]

o sorry it looks like bow sinking

[CADMAN4665]

when a ship is sunk for artificial reefs, it is completely expunged of any hazardous materials,etc, before sinking....pollution....what freaking goobers you people are!

[gordongate]

@CADMAN4665 so that circlular patch on the water to the aft of the stern isnt an oil spill from the ships bunkers then?

[chicoskikit]

new homes for fishes.

[SpincterManBubba]

Target Practice...I love it!

[imkoolkiller99]

its like how the titanic sank

[igenther99]

@imkoolkiller99 Actually the titanic sank bow first, and the back weighed alot and split. This is sinking stern first and didnt split.

[lkhyable]

@imkoolkiller99 no



[77magenta]

fill it with us sailors first then sink the fucking bitch!

[michaelwright999]

@77magenta DID THEY NOT PAY YOU ENOUGH BOY, FOR FUCKING AND YOU SUCKING THEM OF BOY ? YOUR JUST ANOTHER BITTER FAG.

[whydoyoueventry]

if u wana get to the point...2:16

[keithbu]

hmm, steel is 8 cents a pound or 12 in winter. where is this ship located :P

[thebadlongboarder]

why wouldn't they recycle it?? new metal for new ship ... why pollute the sea like that???

[excl0n]

@thebadlongboarder pollute? its been made a reef i would say thats much better then all the process and pollution it will take to bring it back to normal metal and not to mention that it will create more pollutants in the water after they turn it into whatever.

[samuel0303906147]

alguem me diga em portuguess o q aconteceu



[scorand]

was it really nessesary to get that far away

[DavisCampbell]

Rip

[77magenta]

pitty there aint no fucking terrorist yanks on her

[zackthewiseguy86]

Range Mark! Bearing Mark! Fire! whoosh!!!

[vexviper]

That old tug boats next hehe

[CumbyOnThePiss]

Where is the bridge etc.

[jonesphillip25]

They could of scrapped it and turned it into a new ship..Or just refit and repair it

[PorterCorgi]

@jonesphillip25 -- Most of the materials on the ship are so old and outdated that it would cost more to repair it than build a new one. Seems silly, but it's true. As for "refitting & repairing" it, again, it'd cost too much. That, and the framework is too old to support new materials.

[WINDHAMMAN]

great-more junk on the ocean floor what about all the go green recycling crap the scrap metal could have been put to good use instead of rusting away on the ocean floor

[PorterCorgi]

@WINDHAMMAN -- To quote someone below me, "Actualy they are creating an artificial reef so the local sea flora and fauna can thrive there. They cleaned it and stripped it of ALL harmful materials." So technically, they ARE going green. ;)

[WINDHAMMAN]

@PorterCorgi  agreed, I was wrong :)

[jasincl]

@WINDHAMMAN actually it will create an Aritfical Reef witch fish will eb able to live in and save themselves from Predators and stuff

[andyUKZ]

ww2 its history, is it an American ship? im English but its still a waste :(

[Arrowladedful]

@andyUKZ Well it is a USS so im nearly 100% sure it is.

[AggregateDood]

That sure was depressing... I spend all of my time trying to save and restore historical artifacts while others dump them into the ocean...

[tommyguy12341]

whey not keep the ship?

[doomer39er]

@tommyguy12341 all systems on the ship are out dated and its making way for new ships

[chuanist]

They wasted a lot of steel.

[jasincl]

@chuanist the steel is already too weak and it would cost more to Re-build it and the metal is useless its too weak to make a New Ship

[chuanist]

@jasincl Wrong. The ship itself is superannuated but the material it is made of is nearly pure iron, very easy to re-use. But the military is in the business of blowing things up, not preserving and re-using them.

[emomaiden]

@chuanist shut the hell up

[harpsinth]

littering yhe ocean...excellent job ! congratulatioins u.s.a. !

[trooptransporter]

@harpsinth Actualy they are creating an artificial reef so the local sea flora and fauna can thrive there. They cleaned it and stripped it of ALL harmful materials.

And no, the schips hull itself is not harmful for it is not a " heavy metal ",like lead.

So actualy there helping the sea not destroying it. Even if it corodes the metal is not all that diffrent from the ore that is naturaly found all over the world.So no its not poisonous

[Marko007ify]

lol this is USS ship? :D xaxaxax looks like a shelter for birds

[RayButchPerry]

ztpsossff - You're right about the many innovations which went in to the Liberty ships. They were slow, with old fashioned, but very reliable, reciprocating engines. Construction was the innovation. Made of concrete and of modular construction, they were turned out by the boat works of Henry J. Kiaser at a rate of one per day during the toughest months of the war. Dad was lucky. The Vulcan served 1941-1946. Many (most?) barely survived one trip. Were you or yours on one? Thanks

[keithbu]

@LGTheOneFreeMan there to lazy to cut the ship up

[SteffanLlwyd]

These ships went a long way to ensure our freedom in the UK. Hats off to all who built them, crewed them, loaded and unloaded them and made all the materials they carried. Thanks y'all!

[ultradumbass]

i'd so want to be on a ship when it was sinking. how many people nowadays would you hear of being on a sinking ship?

[expostfactum]

I wonder how many times the Germans saw the same thing through their periscopes.......

[voltag3man]

tht boat me and my dad went to it the boat is haunted for the ppl who sunk it well good luckfor them being haunted cause they sunk there teriotory!

[bestamerica]

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not good idea about this ship sinking under the water ground,,,

let this ship to dry dock for cutting, shredding, recycle and new metal again to make another ship

[niteelfrouge]

@LGTheOneFreeMan its better to send the ship to the bottom of the ocean to make a reef then to scrap it think about the environment a lot better for it!

[tpsossff]

@LGTheOneFreeMan

Using these old ships to help regenerate reefs is the most usefull and productive thing you can do. There is no shortage of steel and these old ships are not all that economical to scrap.

[KODAKGUYNUMBER1]

@tpsossff Then some day there will be a shortage of steel and they will wish they had scraped every fucking ship they sank!!!!!!

[wrothstarkiller]

@crazycuntryboy2 its better to send the ship to the bottom of the ocean to make a reef with a few explosives rather tha spending thousands to disassemble it or repair it.

[mikeknight4u]

man doing what he does best...destroying things. It makes me sick. We deserve to become extinct on this planet.

[101327]

@mikeknight4u STFU sissy.

[dorkf1sh]

@mikeknight4u You first, Mike. Walk the talk, buddy.

[satojinnthehero]

@mikeknight4u lol well if you want to be extinct kill yourself!

[RayButchPerry]

The death of a ship is always a sad thing. The liberty ships, primitive and slow as they were helped win the war. My Dad served, believe it or not, on the liberty ship USS Vulcan, launched 1940, service in the Atlantic 1940-1944, Pacific 1944-1947. Ship Motto: " WANT TO, CAN DO, WILL DO". kuddos Henry J. Kaiser.

[tpsossff]

@RayButchPerry

The liberty ships were not primitive in their time. They set new standards of construction techniques that were taken up after the war by many shipbuilding nations.

You dad was one of the unsung heroes of WW2. So many of his ilk died in awful circumstances after their ship was attacked.

[surrenderfrenchie]

hope she landed upright

[SR71ABCD]

What kind of vessel is she a Frigate, cargo, transport.

[TheDoc4387]

@SR71ABCD She was an Attack Cargo Ship (AKA-107). I served in her 1965 -

1967. Had a lot of good shipmates, most of them probably gone by now.

[TheDoc4387]

@SR71ABCD She was an Attack Cargo Ship (AKA-107). I served in her

1965 -1967

[wrothstarkiller]

@SR71ABCD they were mainly transport, transporting all the goods from the United States to Great Britian and the rest of Europe during World War 2.

[TheDoc4387]

My old ship, affectionately called "the squirmin vermin". She was my last ship and

the last to be done away with, but at least she serves a purpose, the others were

all sold for scrap. Was Chief Hospital Corpsman aboard her for 2 1/2 years. Ate,

slept and lived in her, she was home. RIP Vermilion.

[cheechorock]

i love the i failed school idiots calling these video's fake(when there obviously real)

[hod05]

FAKE

[85GTKid]

@hod05  DUMBASS

[kez3arco12]

Why this Ship sank??

[SAGEthewisedragon]

my guess would be because it's way too old, and it no longer needed.

[rcazphoto]

Dove this ship a couple of times many moons ago. I think it was 120 feet to the bottom. Big damn ship, lots of fish.

[BoyScout1960]

My dad was in a convoy in WWII. They were in a storm once and my pop was on deck and watched as a nearby Liberty Ship literally broke into several sections and went under almost immediately.

Actually we knew quite a lot about welding then, as the number of successful vessels proves. The fault lay in the sectional construction technique, not in the welding itself.

[tupsumato]

@BoyScout1960, the problem was the steel grade. The plates went from ductile to brittle in not-that-low temperatures, resulting in brittle fractures.

[geocam2]

The Liberty Ships had a famous fatal flaw - their welds would crack when exposed to high seas in freezing water. Many ships were lost during WW II, suddenly snapped in half on long convoy voyages to Russia, the crews never heard from again. They were some of the first welded ships, and we didn't know a lot about welding back then.

[SSPoseidon846]

would have been fun to be onboard her as she went down.

[RiverJH1995]

@SSPoseidon846 yeah, as long as other ships were around so you could just swim to them once it went down

[redbugiii]

Cool Video!!! I read it was an Attack Cargo Ship at the end of WWII------!!

[justforever96]

I still think it's a waste of natural resources. IF we make it that far, some day we'll be mining old landfills and salvaging old ships for the materials. That's a lot of frickin' steel to send to the seafloor when a lot less would do the trick.

[maxxdamage01]

well.. you are right. our resources are running low and are being used in abuse because of the monetary system if you know what I mean. but in the future we will probably have the technology to harvest the oceans. they are richer in minerals than the continents, but very hard to acquire.

[davetileguy]

hey dummy we will never EVER run out of iron,there is also more aluminum and titainium than iron.read a book.not Al gores book,let me geuss your about 20?

[StridertheRanger99]

some of those ships were concrete...i have a feeling that one was one of them....i mean how do u dispose of concrete haha

[REALITYCHURCH]

@justforever96 yea I see your point but the reef it becomes is probably worth way more than the deadwieght of the steal.

[tupsumato]

For what purpose? It's a WW2-era Liberty ship. Totally obsolete.

[ZackyHoomar]

its not killing animal life in fact its saving it, haven't you heard of the lack of coral reefs they are sinking it to make a artificial reef, plus they are honoring the souls lost on those ships.

[dhuebner88]

does anyone know of a reunion with the ship mates of the vermilion

[bogritboy]

Why did they sink her? Why didn't they just scrap her and use the steel to make new ships?

[thomasbhunter007]

Artificial reef.

[a4o31]

yay fishies!

[2ndOfficerCHL]

That's very expensive to do. It's a long process to disassemble a ship.

This way, she can be a boon for divers and fisherman, and bring tourist money into the area.

[ZackyHoomar]

they wanted to honor her and her losses buy sending her to her final resting place.

[MrDeano324]

@ZackyHoomar

Thats like saying you want to honor a famous millitary commander for his victories by shooting him in the face...

[jtm12180]

NM, just found that it's 75 toward the top and 130 at the bottom

[jtm12180]

how deep is the water it was sunk in? Does anyone know?

[catpressedjeenz]

I served as a memeber of the last crew of the USS Vermilion in 1971. Underneath the gray paint on the inside of the FT shack hatch (portside) ia a painting that I did. Word got out, lots of people came to see including the Captain. I happened to be in there at the time. He complimented me on the nice work and then told me to paint over it regulation gray. I had some good times and some scary times aboard that ship in the Gunnery Division. VR107...Can Do Will Do.

[lordleather]

wow thanks.i love that info......i was sorry to see her go down

[ccr5cxcr4]

Better for her to serve as a reef than razor blades.

[Jakethesnake1281]

@ccr5cxcr4 That what my grandfather says all the time.