i want to know what mileage it gets. if I want 0-60, i'll buy a sports car. so wth is the mileage? have you had any problems with the car? did they handle any warranty claims well? that is useful info...
@Krimghor hmmm....know what's funny? the author had no problem with my comment, but some douchebag (that's you, dumbass) felt the need to pipe up. Take a hint and STFU, gaywad.
9seconds? Thats really pathetic for a modern diesel, especially if you have to beat the shit out of it like that to get that time. My 28 year old diesel is faster and I don't have to abuse the transmission to do it.
:D I love how once it gets some revs, the tractor sound disappears and the good old boxer burble comes back. Like a wolf in (John Deere green) sheep's clothing.
I've noticed this with five cylinder diesels too, rev them a little and they sound like Audi rally cars.
try to rev from 2.000-4000rpm. The enigie has the most tourgue there. above 4.000 it is not that Good. This was my Personal felling about that engine, we have driven it in a legacy with 5speed H-pattern and in a Forester with 6 Speed H-pattern
Most small diesels (2L and under) tuned to perform in that rpm range. That's normal. There are some exceptions with a good variable geometry turbocharger, those are not shiny but good under 2000 rpm... For a while. :D
@stefanits1234 The only thing is, that the engine has no vibrations, when it would´t have the sound from a diesel, i would say it is a Gasoline engine. i had driven cars with 2.0 Diesels, but no one Feels so Powerfull and starnge like the Boxer diesel From suabru. The only thing is, that i dont like the 6 speed gearbox, the 5speed low-range gerbox is way better in my eyes^^
@stefanits1234 The sti is nice. im never driven in one, but it is a nice car^^ But the diesel is also a Very good engine. but i still Prefer Gasoline engines
@doromanekia Considering that the US and Canada use 72% (43,041 gallons) as much diesel as ALL of Europe (59,431 gallons), the US alone in at 39,000 gallons for 2005, I think your opinion is pretty invalid.
It's a question of theoretical marketing, they choose not to bring the vehicles to the US, not that they wouldn't sell.
@omaifakingad What on earth are you trying to say here? the US uses diesel for 4 seaters, although to a lesser degree. Hell, there have been a handful of American V8 diesels used in passenger cars.
@NotYour72Chevy I'm trying to say - yes, it is possible that US uses more diesel than europe, but certainly NOT for passenger cars. just 2-3% of cars inthe US are diesel.
im building a crawler in a few months time and im looking around for a diesel engine with a bit more grunt, does anyone knw if this motor will suit? im running dana 60 axles and 37 inch tyres...( jeep TJ )
@KrazyKuul111 I've been wondering this for years. The fact that a volkswagen golf tdi gets 10 more mpg than a prius (packed to the gills with computers, batteries, price-tag, and now a safety hazard), this country boggles my mind.
I know some of the 3/4 ton trucks in this country can get over 30+mpgs if tuned correctly. Why can't cummins make a mini version of the reliable 5.9... 2.9, 2.6 whatever. One of our FAILING automotive companies could drop this in a decent sized car that gets 60 mpg.
lol, the reason cummins or duramax can't make efficient diesels is because they only make truck engines, and they think that it is cool to make them big so they are more powerful and faster. It's pathetic how we think of diesels as engines for big heavy trucks, and not engines to be more efficient and used in smaller cars too.
I read in Diesel Power that all of the Big 3 make diesel minitrucks, with basically split powerstroke/duramax motors, but refuse to sell them here. The writer of the article was suitable outraged too! I would pay retail for a smaller diesel!
I have no clue why that is not in america either. I even tortured myself with a diesel rabbit in the 90s. Been with subaru since then as well. I still keep up modern with a 90hp 3 main boxer in an awd sube..this diesel would make feel right at home, at home for me is the same little sube for 13 years...no complaints. 40mpg to boot.
@KrazyKuul111 ... You can get a diesel in any truck/light truck you wish but are tougher to find in cars because crackpots think they emit more fumes and have legislated such stringent emission standards for car diesels that they aren't economical to purchase or drive. Yes, they are durable engines and are vastly improved over diesels of the past but the added emission controls drive the cost up even more and it also doesn't help that diesel fuel costs more than premium grade gasoline.
@ghrpdx The irony is that diesel is actually a much less refined fuel than petrol/gasoline and costs less to produce, but most countries put much higher tax on it so you end up paying more. The engines themselves are also more efficient.
@soundseeker63 It's called Making Money. When diesel was less popular it was cheap, but now diesel cars have improved the companies put the prices up. It's an easy way to mke a profit, they know more people want diesel. Same as everything unfortunately. It costs far less to refine than petrol and is safer to store and transport, so it's ideal for making a fast profit. All that money in refining has been saved instantly! Very unfair I know. You can buy diesels in America, see the videos.
@ghrpdx You seem to forget, you get twice the MPG for a fraction extra in cost. I pay approx £5 per gallon for diesel, which most of the UK pays. That gives me 55MPG in the town and 72MPG on a motorway at a constant 70MPH. That's a 1600cc turbo diesel. For 8p less a gallon for petrol with a 1600cc petro car I get 28MPG in the twon and 42MPG at 70MPH. Do you see why diesel wins hands down? Both cars do 0-60MPH in 10seconds and the diesel does 115MPH and petrol 125MPH. I know which I prefer!!!
@urbex2007 Perhaps you didn't notice the subject of this thread was diesel cars in the US. We have very limited choices for diesel cars in the states. The most efficient is probably the $23,500 (price/destination) VW Golf TDI, rated 30mpg/city. A $14,900 (price/destination) Hyundai Elantra nets 27mpg/city. Which one is going to save you more money? If you want a diesel in the US, you're limited to VW, Audi, and Mercedes ... unless you want a full-sized light truck.
@KrazyKuul111 With modern Diesel you don't have problems to starting fast when it's cold. I have a diesel car since 7 years and I want to say: diesel engine forever! It has the same torque of a big gasoline engine with 1/4 of carburant, It's amazing. I'm italian and I ask myself the same thing: why american people don't use diesel engine? I know that you love the torque, and more torque of diesel engine doesn't exist! ;)
Turbodiesel engines have big torque because of turbocharger, not because they are diesel engines. They have slightly more torque by nature of it´s construction, but other aspect of their construction is that they operates in lower revs. If you understand physics little bit, you will know what that means.
And cold starting is problem not of diesel engine itself, but of solidifying and freezing of fuel in low temperatures, which happens lot earlier with diesel fuel.
Turbodiesel engines have big torque because of turbocharger, not because they are diesel engines. They have slightly more torque by nature of it´s construction, but other aspect of their construction is that they operates in lower revs. If you understand physics little bit, you will know what that means.
And cold starting is problem not of diesel engine itself, but of solidifying and freezing of fuel in low temperatures, which happens lot earlier with diesel fuel.
@smilzomagro Sorry, but then how do you explain this: Subaru Impreza 2011 2.0 turbo engine (gasoline) 319.9 PS (315.5 bhp) (235.3 kW) at 6400 rpm/ 431 Nm (318 ft·lb) (44 kgm) at 3200-4400 rpm 2009 Subaru Impreza 2.0D 150.1 PS (148 bhp) (110.4 kW) at 3600 rpm/ 350 Nm (258 ft·lb) (35.7 kgm) at 1800-4200 rpm Did i read it right? The Gasoline one gets the most amount of power and torque!!! Oh... yeah they both have a turbocharger, that's why!
A gasoline engine designed to be sporty with a diesel engine designed to be comfortable for long journeys??.Diesel engines have won many races in the 24h Lemans and in the Paris-Dakar.
Work vehicles are diesel because the diesel cycle develops more torque than gasoline one and diesel has low fuel consumption. Do you want torque, look the torque of VW Touareg 5.0 TDI! After this find me a gasoline engine with same torque! (including turbo models, but with the same hp)
Do you know that diesel cars only won in Le Mans and in Dakar because the gasoline one's have an air restrictor or a turbocharger restrictor that gives advantage to diesel ones?
If the rules were equal, diesel wouldn't stand a chance, just look at WTCC now with the new rules!!! Seat with there TDI engine had to quit!!!
They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the couple, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason? Studied why.
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
@rubenvalente They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the couple, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason?
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the torque, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason?
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
You forgot to mention that a diesel engine only has the same amount of torque as a big gasoline one, if the diesel one has a turbocharger and the gasoline one dosen't...i think that's quite a great omission.
@rubenvalente I'm disagree....my peugeot diesel is 2.2 with 370 nm, in the same year of my car (2001) you could find a 2.0 gasoline turbocharger engine, for example a ford one, with 220 hp (mine has 140 hp) with only 250/270 n.m. Sure is faster than my car, but the torque and consuption? Diesel torque will be alway higher. Please, find me a big truck with a gasoline engine ...probably, you'll never find one; find me a locomotive with gasoline engine with 20 wagons behind...same answer.
@KrazyKuul111 Many companies do sell diesels in the U.S. the problem with the Subaru however, is that it does not meet California emission standards, and as of Jan. 2011 all cars sold in the U.S. must meet California emission standards. Even if they are sold outside of California.
Savez vous que le Boxer bien que donné à 150CV tourne en réel autour des 163CV testé sur banc d'essai dans Sub magazine ???
Cependant, je suis étonné que tu ailles chercher la puissance à près de 5000T/min !
Avant, j'étais réfractaire au Diesel.
Mais depuis que Subaru nous le fait proprement avec cata en circuit fermé, sans vibrations et presque inaudible, ce moteur sera mien et remplacera ma vieille impreza GT de 1998 de collection !
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You just proved my case for me. Diesels are 95% of the time renowned for their economy and mileage, so it's irrelevant what their 0-60mph time is, yet you posted a video of it.
The other 5% I refer to is in auto-racing i.e. the new generation of diesel-powered Audis winning LeMans and other endurance races. Outside of that, measuring a diesel's 0-60 as if it's supposed to impress people or be a useful data is pointless.
And yes, to be clear, if I'm shopping for a diesel-powered vehicle, it's 0-60 time is likely the LAST thing on my list of criteria. If you want a fast car available to the public, why on earth would you buy a diesel. These are designed for fuel economy, that goes without saying.
If you look at the Ford F-250 with the 6.4 liter diesel, flash a new PCM program to the computer, and it will do 0-60 in about 5 seconds and still get 22-24 mpg average... considering it weighs about 7,000 lbs. Just a throwing it out there.
I love those big trucks. Ppl don't realize how much power those things really have. Just a small about of work to it and it can out run most stock performance cars!
@malaka1212 Diesels have moved on a hell of a lot in the last ten years..,ten years ago,no one would of classed a diesel as being as fast as this....you are a proper whining girl...if you don't like something don't watch it simple enough...Bellend.
@malaka1212 I still need to know the 0-60mph of a diesel before I buy it to get an idea of whether it moves or it is sluggish. Whether I can actually overtake or join a motorway safely etc. so it is what people want to know about them. Not all diesels are economical, look at a bus or coach for example! If YOU don't need the info then don't watch, no one forces you to. Move along! You will be there for years moaning about all the videos you hate, there are billions on youtube.
@malaka1212 There are people out there that needs it. If you do not need it why bother clicking on this vid in the first place ? Trolling ? Get a life dude.
@malaka1212 ... actually, he launched closer to 0:09 seconds and hit 100km/h at 0:16 seconds. That's a pretty respectable time for an all-wheel-drive family car.
I like the diesel because it has the same performance as the NA 2.5L petrol while being twice as good on economy.
The petrol-turbo or the 3.0L 6-cylinder car will leave my car in the dust but they're far more expensive to run and there isn't that much use for the extra performance on the public roads...
it's not a boost pressure, it's economizer... gives you some idea of the economy of the enegine... there is also a small green upwarding arrow blinking on the side of the rev meter- it shows you the prefect time for gear change, if you accelerate gently it will tell you by slowly blinking 3 times to change the gear at around 1500-2300 rpm and if you go hard on it will blink quickly 3 times @around 3500-4200rpm.
we had one for a few days, cause our fori was by the 60.000km service. They are really powerfull^^ the only sad fact is, i can´t hear the turbo :( the have 352 NM by 1800 U/min thats really good
its not about the BHP.... is all about how big or little are the gears ;) so i could make my 1.8 TD ford escort go as fast as the subaru 4 example ;) but that should be in another life lol
Why all of you just count time from 0-100kph? For example Focus 1,8 TDCi (100HP) and Focus 1,6 Zetec (102HP) accelerate to 100kph in the same time, about 11,5sec. But from 100 to 140 petrol engine has no chance with turbocharged Diesel. On paper specifications look similar, but in drive we have 2 completly different cars. And when you try to tow a trailer, the differences will be much bigger. Diesel brings much benefits in comparison with petrol engine.
Watch the time, and watch the speedo in your peripheral version. He doesn't launch until just before 9 seconds, not 7. I'd say 8.75->17= 8.25 seconds.
Watch the camera shake. It starts at 7. The speedo (that is electronically controlled and not directly wired) comes along quite a bit later than the real launch that shakes the car.
Do you know exactly how fast this was? I counted 8 seconds... My turbo charged 2004 Forester could do it at or below 6, and my stock 2.2 1999 Impreza Outback (non turbo, 30+mpg) could do it in about 8 seconds. Nevertheless, this car definitely has more towing capabilities, and could probably do this even with weight.
It shows how much fuel you are using at the moment. When it's pointing straight down it means about 5 liters per 100km. To the left it's more, to the right it's less.
i didnt expected that kind of performance, impressive i got to say. And why i cant get such acceleration in my 2.0R (165Hp)? :D maybe because im too afraid to ruin clutch...
Acceleration depends more on the torque than horsepower. The 2.0R has 165hp and the diesel has 150hp. But the difference in torque is much bigger. The 2.0R has about 197Nm of torque when the diesel has 350Nm!!!
Apparemment le 0-100 de la Legacy est abattu en un peu moins de 9 secondes, ce qui rejoint à peu près les données du constructeur... (et ce qui représente une des meilleurs perfs dans cette catégorie). La voiture ayant servi au test est-elle une berline ou un tourer ?
Crappy sound by the way... even a simple 1.2l gasoline engine from any corean car maker can sound better than that. Diesel just sucks all the way.
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Subaru Impreza 2011 2.0 turbo engine (gasoline) 319.9 PS at 6400 rpm/ 431 Nm at 3200-4400 rpm
2009 Subaru Impreza 2.0D 150.1 PS at 3600 rpm/ 350 Nm at 1800-4200 rpm
Did i read it right? The Gasoline one gets the most amount of power and torque!!! Oh... yeah they both have a turbocharger, that's why!
rubenvalente 1 month ago
i want to know what mileage it gets. if I want 0-60, i'll buy a sports car. so wth is the mileage? have you had any problems with the car? did they handle any warranty claims well? that is useful info...
kenfo0 5 months ago
@kenfo0 It gets about 50mpg. No major problems.
markotark 5 months ago
@markotark that's really good. would buy a small diesel LONG before some "hybrid" crap. thx
kenfo0 5 months ago
@kenfo0 Because i'm sure he made this video just for you right?
Krimghor 4 months ago
@Krimghor hmmm....know what's funny? the author had no problem with my comment, but some douchebag (that's you, dumbass) felt the need to pipe up. Take a hint and STFU, gaywad.
kenfo0 4 months ago
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Krimghor 4 months ago
@Krimghor can't imagine what stupidity was in your reply, but I'm sure it was as inept as your first. why not just shut up?
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Krimghor 4 months ago
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@Krimghor can't imagine what stupidity was in your reply, but I'm sure it was as inept as your first. why not just shut up?
kenfo0 4 months ago
9seconds? Thats really pathetic for a modern diesel, especially if you have to beat the shit out of it like that to get that time. My 28 year old diesel is faster and I don't have to abuse the transmission to do it.
TrapOxidizer 7 months ago
Is that a 7-8 sec to 100??? Wow!
LollerStormeR 10 months ago
I know, I have a diesel
Brendon00000 1 year ago
inside nice, but outside it sounds like a old bus
trancowy89 1 year ago
I have never seen a 5000rpm redline, so low
Brendon00000 1 year ago
@Brendon00000 Its low for a 4 cylinder gas engine, not for a diesel. Diesels make their power in the lower rpms.
tobywong 1 year ago
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fuciminakule 1 year ago
:D I love how once it gets some revs, the tractor sound disappears and the good old boxer burble comes back. Like a wolf in (John Deere green) sheep's clothing.
I've noticed this with five cylinder diesels too, rev them a little and they sound like Audi rally cars.
joffeloff 1 year ago
@joffeloff
The five cylinders diesel engines are in a complete opposite league my friend! Trust me.
And please, don't insult an Audi rally car talking about a diesel engine!!!
rubenvalente 1 month ago
try to rev from 2.000-4000rpm. The enigie has the most tourgue there. above 4.000 it is not that Good. This was my Personal felling about that engine, we have driven it in a legacy with 5speed H-pattern and in a Forester with 6 Speed H-pattern
ShelbyMustang456789 1 year ago
@ShelbyMustang456789
Most small diesels (2L and under) tuned to perform in that rpm range. That's normal. There are some exceptions with a good variable geometry turbocharger, those are not shiny but good under 2000 rpm... For a while. :D
stefanits1234 1 year ago
@stefanits1234 The only thing is, that the engine has no vibrations, when it would´t have the sound from a diesel, i would say it is a Gasoline engine. i had driven cars with 2.0 Diesels, but no one Feels so Powerfull and starnge like the Boxer diesel From suabru. The only thing is, that i dont like the 6 speed gearbox, the 5speed low-range gerbox is way better in my eyes^^
ShelbyMustang456789 1 year ago
@ShelbyMustang456789
I only had the opportunity to drive the WRX STi (grrrrreaaat), but I am a diesel fan, so as soon as possible try to get one boxer diesel for a spin.
stefanits1234 1 year ago
@stefanits1234 The sti is nice. im never driven in one, but it is a nice car^^ But the diesel is also a Very good engine. but i still Prefer Gasoline engines
ShelbyMustang456789 1 year ago
My next car will most likely be a subaru and maybe a diesel.
Have a BMW diesel today wich is much faster then this.
It will hurt going down in performance but the MPG is so much better then the 2.5 or 3.6r.
And I won't buy this as a racer only a comuter car so diesel it most likely will be.
Nice vid mate!
Cheers!
McDiezel 1 year ago
Was this a time-lapse video? ;-)
4uneeda 1 year ago
where can i find a video of '' Forester boxer diesel acceleration ''
XeK7oR 1 year ago
I tried Subaru Forester 2.0 and Boxer Diesel (2009, both).
This 2.0 is veeery lazy, while this Boxer Diesel is AWESOME.
Milijunash 2 years ago
fast!
HelderFilipe8 2 years ago
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no you will never get it to the u.s drive your shity petroll cars diesel is for europians and japanese
doromanekia 2 years ago
@doromanekia Considering that the US and Canada use 72% (43,041 gallons) as much diesel as ALL of Europe (59,431 gallons), the US alone in at 39,000 gallons for 2005, I think your opinion is pretty invalid.
It's a question of theoretical marketing, they choose not to bring the vehicles to the US, not that they wouldn't sell.
Piro42 1 year ago
@Piro42 where the fuck did you get this from? US uses diesel.. for what? fucking trucks moving cargo? what about 4 seaters? exaactly.
omaifakingad 1 year ago
@omaifakingad What on earth are you trying to say here? the US uses diesel for 4 seaters, although to a lesser degree. Hell, there have been a handful of American V8 diesels used in passenger cars.
NotYour72Chevy 1 year ago
@NotYour72Chevy I'm trying to say - yes, it is possible that US uses more diesel than europe, but certainly NOT for passenger cars. just 2-3% of cars inthe US are diesel.
omaifakingad 1 year ago
@NotYour72Chevy like chevys 350 diesel, one of the worst engines in history
eclipsetuner99 1 year ago
@doromanekia Don't forget, it's scheduled for North American release in 2010.
Piro42 1 year ago
im building a crawler in a few months time and im looking around for a diesel engine with a bit more grunt, does anyone knw if this motor will suit? im running dana 60 axles and 37 inch tyres...( jeep TJ )
markrufino 2 years ago
why can't we get diesels in america. apart from acceleration and starting fast when it's cold, they are better in every way
KrazyKuul111 2 years ago 19
@KrazyKuul111 I've been wondering this for years. The fact that a volkswagen golf tdi gets 10 more mpg than a prius (packed to the gills with computers, batteries, price-tag, and now a safety hazard), this country boggles my mind.
I know some of the 3/4 ton trucks in this country can get over 30+mpgs if tuned correctly. Why can't cummins make a mini version of the reliable 5.9... 2.9, 2.6 whatever. One of our FAILING automotive companies could drop this in a decent sized car that gets 60 mpg.
MrKalebr 2 years ago
lol, the reason cummins or duramax can't make efficient diesels is because they only make truck engines, and they think that it is cool to make them big so they are more powerful and faster. It's pathetic how we think of diesels as engines for big heavy trucks, and not engines to be more efficient and used in smaller cars too.
KrazyKuul111 2 years ago
I read in Diesel Power that all of the Big 3 make diesel minitrucks, with basically split powerstroke/duramax motors, but refuse to sell them here. The writer of the article was suitable outraged too! I would pay retail for a smaller diesel!
Side41kick 2 years ago
I have no clue why that is not in america either. I even tortured myself with a diesel rabbit in the 90s. Been with subaru since then as well. I still keep up modern with a 90hp 3 main boxer in an awd sube..this diesel would make feel right at home, at home for me is the same little sube for 13 years...no complaints. 40mpg to boot.
boxer3main 2 years ago
@KrazyKuul111 who said that diesel cars doesn't accelerate? search for the audi v6 turbo diesel.. it has more than 200bhp.. and a lot of torque!
merkbruce 1 year ago
@KrazyKuul111 Because in America we use 6.0 cc cars for city!!!
boxer diesel subaru is the best diesel
kevinn96n96 1 year ago
@KrazyKuul111 ... You can get a diesel in any truck/light truck you wish but are tougher to find in cars because crackpots think they emit more fumes and have legislated such stringent emission standards for car diesels that they aren't economical to purchase or drive. Yes, they are durable engines and are vastly improved over diesels of the past but the added emission controls drive the cost up even more and it also doesn't help that diesel fuel costs more than premium grade gasoline.
ghrpdx 1 year ago
@ghrpdx The irony is that diesel is actually a much less refined fuel than petrol/gasoline and costs less to produce, but most countries put much higher tax on it so you end up paying more. The engines themselves are also more efficient.
soundseeker63 1 year ago
@soundseeker63 It's called Making Money. When diesel was less popular it was cheap, but now diesel cars have improved the companies put the prices up. It's an easy way to mke a profit, they know more people want diesel. Same as everything unfortunately. It costs far less to refine than petrol and is safer to store and transport, so it's ideal for making a fast profit. All that money in refining has been saved instantly! Very unfair I know. You can buy diesels in America, see the videos.
urbex2007 1 year ago
@ghrpdx You seem to forget, you get twice the MPG for a fraction extra in cost. I pay approx £5 per gallon for diesel, which most of the UK pays. That gives me 55MPG in the town and 72MPG on a motorway at a constant 70MPH. That's a 1600cc turbo diesel. For 8p less a gallon for petrol with a 1600cc petro car I get 28MPG in the twon and 42MPG at 70MPH. Do you see why diesel wins hands down? Both cars do 0-60MPH in 10seconds and the diesel does 115MPH and petrol 125MPH. I know which I prefer!!!
urbex2007 1 year ago
@urbex2007 Perhaps you didn't notice the subject of this thread was diesel cars in the US. We have very limited choices for diesel cars in the states. The most efficient is probably the $23,500 (price/destination) VW Golf TDI, rated 30mpg/city. A $14,900 (price/destination) Hyundai Elantra nets 27mpg/city. Which one is going to save you more money? If you want a diesel in the US, you're limited to VW, Audi, and Mercedes ... unless you want a full-sized light truck.
ghrpdx 1 year ago
@KrazyKuul111 Check out the VW Jetta's. Change your life ;D
Cameron1177 1 year ago
@KrazyKuul111 With modern Diesel you don't have problems to starting fast when it's cold. I have a diesel car since 7 years and I want to say: diesel engine forever! It has the same torque of a big gasoline engine with 1/4 of carburant, It's amazing. I'm italian and I ask myself the same thing: why american people don't use diesel engine? I know that you love the torque, and more torque of diesel engine doesn't exist! ;)
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Turbodiesel engines have big torque because of turbocharger, not because they are diesel engines. They have slightly more torque by nature of it´s construction, but other aspect of their construction is that they operates in lower revs. If you understand physics little bit, you will know what that means.
And cold starting is problem not of diesel engine itself, but of solidifying and freezing of fuel in low temperatures, which happens lot earlier with diesel fuel.
fuciminakule 1 year ago
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Turbodiesel engines have big torque because of turbocharger, not because they are diesel engines. They have slightly more torque by nature of it´s construction, but other aspect of their construction is that they operates in lower revs. If you understand physics little bit, you will know what that means.
And cold starting is problem not of diesel engine itself, but of solidifying and freezing of fuel in low temperatures, which happens lot earlier with diesel fuel.
fuciminakule 1 year ago
rubenvalente 1 month ago
A gasoline engine designed to be sporty with a diesel engine designed to be comfortable for long journeys??.Diesel engines have won many races in the 24h Lemans and in the Paris-Dakar.
Work vehicles are diesel because the diesel cycle develops more torque than gasoline one and diesel has low fuel consumption. Do you want torque, look the torque of VW Touareg 5.0 TDI! After this find me a gasoline engine with same torque! (including turbo models, but with the same hp)
smilzomagro 1 month ago
@smilzomagro
Do you know that diesel cars only won in Le Mans and in Dakar because the gasoline one's have an air restrictor or a turbocharger restrictor that gives advantage to diesel ones?
If the rules were equal, diesel wouldn't stand a chance, just look at WTCC now with the new rules!!! Seat with there TDI engine had to quit!!!
rubenvalente 1 month ago
They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the couple, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason? Studied why.
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
smilzomagro 1 month ago
@rubenvalente They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the couple, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason?
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
smilzomagro 1 month ago
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They are completely different, there will never be the perfect way to compare them. I made you a speech about the torque, where diesel wins widely. Diesel engines push the big trucks, long trains and large ships! There must be a reason?
If you want to do a race where there are diesel and gasoline is normal that there are rules preventing that a team can win by cheating. The limitations of which you speak are served because they fought on equal terms as the technique may allow it.
smilzomagro 1 month ago
@smilzomagro
You forgot to mention that a diesel engine only has the same amount of torque as a big gasoline one, if the diesel one has a turbocharger and the gasoline one dosen't...i think that's quite a great omission.
rubenvalente 1 month ago
@rubenvalente I'm disagree....my peugeot diesel is 2.2 with 370 nm, in the same year of my car (2001) you could find a 2.0 gasoline turbocharger engine, for example a ford one, with 220 hp (mine has 140 hp) with only 250/270 n.m. Sure is faster than my car, but the torque and consuption? Diesel torque will be alway higher. Please, find me a big truck with a gasoline engine ...probably, you'll never find one; find me a locomotive with gasoline engine with 20 wagons behind...same answer.
smilzomagro 1 month ago
@KrazyKuul111 Many companies do sell diesels in the U.S. the problem with the Subaru however, is that it does not meet California emission standards, and as of Jan. 2011 all cars sold in the U.S. must meet California emission standards. Even if they are sold outside of California.
spexyguy 10 months ago
Looks like 90km/h pull with second gear and most probably 130+ with third. Almost like a petrol engine. Simply great :)
gokhanasan 2 years ago 4
I want this in the u.s.
markopolo149 2 years ago 2
9 seconds? +/-
Tugaida 2 years ago 5
Savez vous que le Boxer bien que donné à 150CV tourne en réel autour des 163CV testé sur banc d'essai dans Sub magazine ???
Cependant, je suis étonné que tu ailles chercher la puissance à près de 5000T/min !
Avant, j'étais réfractaire au Diesel.
Mais depuis que Subaru nous le fait proprement avec cata en circuit fermé, sans vibrations et presque inaudible, ce moteur sera mien et remplacera ma vieille impreza GT de 1998 de collection !
laouren 2 years ago
Tu sais que les 3/4 des véhicule VAG au banc sorte 15Cv de plus que sur le papier. donc 13cv en plus c'est pas grand chose.
Mais bon après entre un 4 patte de camion VAG dont la puissance disparait a 3500tr et le boxer diesel Sub, c'est vrai qu'il y a pas a chier.
downman72 2 years ago
Nice vid of a diesel engine. I didn't know Subaru made them.
sabbyreloaded 2 years ago
@sabbyreloaded Subaru has made 2-litre diesel engines since 2008.
markotark 2 years ago
@sabbyreloaded,
ultimatespecs . com /car-specs/Subaru/9550/Subaru-Legacy-V-Sedan-2.0-Boxer-Diesel-Limited.html
They do... :P
ogatobranco 8 months ago
Sounds like gas.....
SakoTGrimes 2 years ago
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That's 9sec for 100km... why even bother posting a vid..
you launched at 0:07 xactly
100km was reached at 0:16
malaka1212 2 years ago
Why do you assume that every video showing a cars acceleration needs to be for the purpose of showing off?
This video was posted for the purpose of informing people, not for engaging in a drag race...
markotark 2 years ago 30
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You just proved my case for me. Diesels are 95% of the time renowned for their economy and mileage, so it's irrelevant what their 0-60mph time is, yet you posted a video of it.
This is information nobody needs.
malaka1212 2 years ago
Few problems with your commentary.
First, what is your justification for the 95% figure?
Second, even that number was correct, that would leave the 5% of time when diesels are not graded by the economy and mileage.
And do you claim that it is irrelevant if your car has 9 second or 18 second acceleration if you buy a diesel for mileage-reasons?
And this video not only contains the time it also presents sound and many other important aspects of a car.
markotark 2 years ago 21
The other 5% I refer to is in auto-racing i.e. the new generation of diesel-powered Audis winning LeMans and other endurance races. Outside of that, measuring a diesel's 0-60 as if it's supposed to impress people or be a useful data is pointless.
Your car is slow. Very slow.
But it'll go very far on a tank of gas.
malaka1212 2 years ago
And yes, to be clear, if I'm shopping for a diesel-powered vehicle, it's 0-60 time is likely the LAST thing on my list of criteria. If you want a fast car available to the public, why on earth would you buy a diesel. These are designed for fuel economy, that goes without saying.
malaka1212 2 years ago
If you look at the Ford F-250 with the 6.4 liter diesel, flash a new PCM program to the computer, and it will do 0-60 in about 5 seconds and still get 22-24 mpg average... considering it weighs about 7,000 lbs. Just a throwing it out there.
ashtrey05 2 years ago
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malaka1212 2 years ago
Thats impressive
Dakoder 2 years ago
@ashtrey05
The dodge cummins diesels are similar. My friend had one with a programmer, it was slow off the line, but hauled once it got rolling.
phateracing 2 years ago
I love those big trucks. Ppl don't realize how much power those things really have. Just a small about of work to it and it can out run most stock performance cars!
ashtrey05 2 years ago
@markotark Just pointing out, audi, le mans, 1,2,3 place, diesel engine, slow eh?
WilliamSunmo 6 months ago
if this video is irrelevant why have 57000 people watched it?
retardbinman 2 years ago
same reason millions of people watch useless vids on youtube every day, I believe it's called boredom
malaka1212 2 years ago
@malaka1212 fuck off
donpepito11 1 year ago
@malaka1212 Diesels have moved on a hell of a lot in the last ten years..,ten years ago,no one would of classed a diesel as being as fast as this....you are a proper whining girl...if you don't like something don't watch it simple enough...Bellend.
countrywideboy 1 year ago
@malaka1212 I still need to know the 0-60mph of a diesel before I buy it to get an idea of whether it moves or it is sluggish. Whether I can actually overtake or join a motorway safely etc. so it is what people want to know about them. Not all diesels are economical, look at a bus or coach for example! If YOU don't need the info then don't watch, no one forces you to. Move along! You will be there for years moaning about all the videos you hate, there are billions on youtube.
urbex2007 1 year ago
@malaka1212 There are people out there that needs it. If you do not need it why bother clicking on this vid in the first place ? Trolling ? Get a life dude.
melvineo10 6 months ago
@malaka1212 ... actually, he launched closer to 0:09 seconds and hit 100km/h at 0:16 seconds. That's a pretty respectable time for an all-wheel-drive family car.
ghrpdx 1 year ago 2
@malaka1212 What a asshole. Does it matter if it's not that fast?
Matty231 10 months ago
sounds very smooth for a diesel
I guess the boxer layout cancels out a lot of vibrations.
nurbsenvi 2 years ago
rev to max buddy....
Mendhaka 2 years ago
The torque-curve falls at the highest revs, the car accelerates faster when you change gears before max revs.
That way you can keep the the revs at the top of the curve for more of the time...
markotark 2 years ago
you dont drive a diesel like a petrol car, diesel have most power at mid-high rpm, and already at ~ 2100 rpm does diesels have max torque
kettu92 2 years ago
I did testdrive that engine, but somehow it is not as good (and fun) as 3-liter. Of course expenses are bigger.
hamppu89 2 years ago
Hello! Can you upload another video but this time showing 2 Subaru Legacy's racing against each other.
One with a Diesel and One with a petrol version. I want to see who wins in the race.
JuniorAnitonia 2 years ago
My brother has this car.....petrol version though.
bobble12221 2 years ago
I like the diesel because it has the same performance as the NA 2.5L petrol while being twice as good on economy.
The petrol-turbo or the 3.0L 6-cylinder car will leave my car in the dust but they're far more expensive to run and there isn't that much use for the extra performance on the public roads...
markotark 2 years ago
Yeah, that's where the diesel engine really shines. His car guzzles fuel like a bitch!
bobble12221 2 years ago
Btw, nice one for the big UNICEF donation.
bobble12221 2 years ago
Yeah, maybe i'm using the money that i save on fuel to help people...
But seriously, it was a worthy cause and i had something to give, so i did.
markotark 2 years ago
i think its how much fuel goes threw it uses
keanupimp11 2 years ago
whats the gauge right below the tach?
YJackets07 2 years ago
boost pressure
CVRealMan 2 years ago
it's not a boost pressure, it's economizer... gives you some idea of the economy of the enegine... there is also a small green upwarding arrow blinking on the side of the rev meter- it shows you the prefect time for gear change, if you accelerate gently it will tell you by slowly blinking 3 times to change the gear at around 1500-2300 rpm and if you go hard on it will blink quickly 3 times @around 3500-4200rpm.
bartekmachaj 2 years ago
100 at 17 secs, you need to check your stop watch. more like 8 seconds @ 100km/h
michael9678727 2 years ago
but it is diesel engine
00georg00 2 years ago
we had one for a few days, cause our fori was by the 60.000km service. They are really powerfull^^ the only sad fact is, i can´t hear the turbo :( the have 352 NM by 1800 U/min thats really good
ShelbyMustang456789 2 years ago
diesel engines reach a lot less revs than unleaded gas ones
matiii007 2 years ago
Yea diesel engines rev less because their compression ratio is much higher compared to petrol. So comparing the both just isn't accurate.
scoobeydoooo 2 years ago
I agree. Its like comparing apples to a kitten.
massdrewski 2 years ago
a diesel better have higher compresion because that is what diesels run on
EvoKiller2002 2 years ago
how is the diesel?
i have heard pros and cons...
can imagine its mad efficient with a bonus all wheel..
but won't really win any speed compet?
sidomo 3 years ago
Yes it's very economical but it's also quite fast. Especially when passing other cars.
But otherwise it's quiet and a comfortable cruiser.
I suggest you take a look at my video
" Subaru Legacy Diesel On Ice "
It shows how good handling it has even on ice without any traction control on.
markotark 3 years ago
Diesels make good low end torque and with proper gearing will match and sometimes outdo a gas engine.
chabbalato 2 years ago
What is the gauge for below Tachometer?
NJW1973 3 years ago
Fuel Efficiency
blicraft82 3 years ago
Thats pretty fast considering the gas mileage. Hope the U.S. version gets here soon. Love my Subaru would love it more if it got 45mpg.
moderatesunited 3 years ago
official 0-60mph time is 8.3seconds so say maybe 8.5 to 100kph.not bad for a large car with only 148bhp
mat12128 3 years ago
The first generation Legacy Turbo did 0-60 in 8.4 seconds, so yeah, I guess it's not bad at all!
AFTERGLOW22 3 years ago
its not about the BHP.... is all about how big or little are the gears ;) so i could make my 1.8 TD ford escort go as fast as the subaru 4 example ;) but that should be in another life lol
faranume01 3 years ago
yer you would have to change alot of gears to beat the subaru to 100kph =P.
Subarujoe 3 years ago
yes, too many.... with that money I could buy a subaru for example :D lol (kiddin')
faranume01 3 years ago
ahaha =P
Subarujoe 2 years ago
Why all of you just count time from 0-100kph? For example Focus 1,8 TDCi (100HP) and Focus 1,6 Zetec (102HP) accelerate to 100kph in the same time, about 11,5sec. But from 100 to 140 petrol engine has no chance with turbocharged Diesel. On paper specifications look similar, but in drive we have 2 completly different cars. And when you try to tow a trailer, the differences will be much bigger. Diesel brings much benefits in comparison with petrol engine.
plastman12 3 years ago
I counted 7 flat. NICE!
ronmann606 3 years ago
I counted 10. 7->17
tomaattikasa 3 years ago
Watch the time, and watch the speedo in your peripheral version. He doesn't launch until just before 9 seconds, not 7. I'd say 8.75->17= 8.25 seconds.
ronmann606 3 years ago
Watch the camera shake. It starts at 7. The speedo (that is electronically controlled and not directly wired) comes along quite a bit later than the real launch that shakes the car.
tomaattikasa 2 years ago
That's surprisingly quick!
Voloz244 3 years ago
we drive a legacy Boxer diesel 4 Days. This Diesel has 354 NM at 1800 u/min, its really fast. Sorry for my bad english
ShelbyMustang456789 3 years ago
Do you know exactly how fast this was? I counted 8 seconds... My turbo charged 2004 Forester could do it at or below 6, and my stock 2.2 1999 Impreza Outback (non turbo, 30+mpg) could do it in about 8 seconds. Nevertheless, this car definitely has more towing capabilities, and could probably do this even with weight.
dgsblb 3 years ago
Oops, I thought this was the Turbo Diesel Outback, not just a Legacy Diesel.
I need to double check the titles when roaming you-tube.
dgsblb 3 years ago
thats quicker than my vw tdi!
s172mch 3 years ago
very nise, and fast to!!!
baracdj 3 years ago
what is that gauge under the tach??
lanesmoshpit 3 years ago
It shows how much fuel you are using at the moment. When it's pointing straight down it means about 5 liters per 100km. To the left it's more, to the right it's less.
markotark 3 years ago
at what rev reaches 160 km/h?
theosi89 3 years ago
+/- 3100
Elmoucronno 3 years ago
Holy cow. I've been waiting too long for this engine.
AaronCompNetSys 3 years ago 2
i didnt expected that kind of performance, impressive i got to say. And why i cant get such acceleration in my 2.0R (165Hp)? :D maybe because im too afraid to ruin clutch...
sabakag 3 years ago
Acceleration depends more on the torque than horsepower. The 2.0R has 165hp and the diesel has 150hp. But the difference in torque is much bigger. The 2.0R has about 197Nm of torque when the diesel has 350Nm!!!
markotark 3 years ago
Hi, very nice car and fast!! are they as economical as Subaru claimed (5.6l/100km)? Thanks
fxgtz 3 years ago
Well, the display in the car currently shows 5.6. Haven't done any precise calculations.
markotark 3 years ago
Hi,
That's FAST. And if the engine is a little more experienced you can get to 100 km/h without shifting to 3. Saves an extra second!
greetings geert
geertvandijk1 3 years ago 2
By achieving 0-100 in less than 9', the Legacy confirms to be the fastest in its category. Subaru has taken the diesel route successfully.
Dd you make the test with the sedan or the tourer version ?
Elmoucronno 3 years ago
It's the tourer (STW). I think Subaru says that the sedan is 0,1 seconds faster to 100km/h. But i'm still happy with the performance.
markotark 3 years ago
Apparemment le 0-100 de la Legacy est abattu en un peu moins de 9 secondes, ce qui rejoint à peu près les données du constructeur... (et ce qui représente une des meilleurs perfs dans cette catégorie). La voiture ayant servi au test est-elle une berline ou un tourer ?
Elmoucronno 3 years ago
In english? Please?
markotark 3 years ago