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  • @wsoxman couldn't have said it better myself.

  • I live in the bankrupt State of Illinois, that is run by Democrats at just about every level. How come my State Democrats like Senator Durbin, never have public meetings like this?

    I'm still waiting for all that Oil that we were going to get from Iraq like liberals lied about.

  • people need to realise that the majority of American politicians are, essentially, in the pockets of big business. they all have interests outside of governmental policy that personal interest and benefit them. therefore, while that still exists, no political party is going to be on the up-and-up. they're all shady fuckers really

  • Cenk, THE HAMMER.

  • As soon as Republican AND Democrats wake up and see the common enemy all sweet talk and evasiveness and projection will not be enough to save the manipulators from their wrath.

    Till then....

    Sleep well!

    Peas.

  • I think the congressman was about to throw that guy is podium to shut him up but realized it was nailed to the floor!

  • Teapublikkancers do not support the people of this country they support corporations that ships jobs overseas,and banks

  • The guy asking the question is awesome

  • lol Owned. Love that guy asking the questions.

  • I can't wait for all the baby boomers to die out in the next 30 years. I so sick of our country being run off of Cold War politics, paranoia, and propaganda. The Cold War is over! Move the fuck on!

  • Typical. Change the question to something else, dodge the question with random talking points, agree even if your not doing anything and don't care, rile up the audience.

  • It isn't that American doesn't have the intellectual ability to elect honest officials, it is the problems that we have no honest officials to choose from. See, we know the Republican are all about themselves and the money in their pockets, so we know we can NEVER win with them. The democrats though you never know what you will get until they get in power. They are the lesser of two evils but like said, you don't know what to expect. America = Freedom for the rich only.

  • @TiffW1979 Could not have said that better myself

  • Regulate bankers? How about regulate GOD DAMN FREDDIE FANNIE WHO CAUSED THIS FUCKING MESS. You liberals LOVEEEE Freddie and Fannie. You liberals have no trouble with FreddieFannie pushing banks to give "liar loans" which got the banks into this mess in the first place. You liberals are pathetic...

  • @calimar28 LMFAO! The pathetic one here is you! This mess didn't start with Freddie and Fannie, this mess started back in 1982 with the Alternative Mortgage Transaction Parity Act. This law PREEMPTS state laws that restrict banks from making any mortgage except conventional fixed rate amortizing mortgages. The law actually "allows lenders to make loans with terms that may obscure the total cost of a loan." Republicans held the majority then!

  • @calimar28 You'd better check your facts...Fannie and Freddie followed...it's easy to see who led us down this shitty path...PRIVATE FUCKING BANKING!!!!!!!

  • @calimar28 What do you think Freddie and Fannie is exactly? It's funny how you conservatives get hold of a single talking point and hammer it to death.

    Yeah, your comment was from 4 months ago, but it was so stupid i had to point it out again. FURepublicans owning you made it amusing as well.

  • the people that vote republicans & these conservative democrats don't never see this type of curruption. the only thing they are worried about is ; Guns, Gay , Abortion ,tax cuts for the rich , Hurting the poor & Minorities , lie about the liberals for power & greed. it shouldn't be about any of those things. it should be about governing for the people and by the people. And leave corperations,Banks,insurance Co. & the other personal stuff out of it.

  • it was so cool to hear the Hatch questioner as a caller on the alex jones show july 26 w00t!

  • Kumbaya Kumbaya...uhh..Kumbaya. Shite. Nothing happened.

  • Git Git LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • Say it! Vote em' all out, clean our own house.

  • What a bad salesman.I could see him pulling the vacuum out the box and dust just falls all over like an Iranian desert.

  • wow. LOOK AT THAT! Did you see how uncomfortable that made him??? AWSOME!

  • This man also called for drug testing EVERYONE who is on unemployment. If anything these politicians should be tested for drugs. We really need to get rid of these people. He wants to talk about criminal activity, everything the Senate and the House does is criminal. They don't care about anything except the wealthy. I am so sick of these people.

  • the GOP is wall street's bitch. This is so obvious. Republicans love the banking and oil industry...

  • @Pull0utBoy Whats dissappointing is that democrats are also bought maybe about 80% of them

  • @Pull0utBoy Clinton was the bitch of people who really should not have been attempting to buy a house. Everybody qualifies for a load!! Shame on you Democrats...

  • @Pull0utBoy Clinton was the bitch of people who really should not have been attempting to buy a house. Everybody qualifies for a loan!! Shame on you Democrats...

  • @USABG58 Posting it twice doesn't make it anymore true. Keep your fingers in your ears and keep repeating your dogma though .. it's your right

  • @USABG58 CHECK HERBERT WALKER BUSHES 1992 STATE OF THE UNION ADRESS AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER THE THE GOP IS A FRAUD DOUBLE TALK SAY ONE THING DO ANOTHER THEN SAY IT'S THE DEMS THAT DO IT LOLOL

  • Typical, a very serious question is presnted ans the GOP senator passes blame on to the President.

  • all go to the senators youtube page and spam him about the young turks

  • When bankers go corrupt, blame the gov't. So long as any wealthy person makes money through corrupt means, blame the gov't. That's the reality of the Republican party.

  • @Mortello

    Neither party is above the other.

    Both establishment parties are controlled by banks and corporations.

  • Look at the senator's body language. He knows exactly what HIS constituent is talking about right off the bat. 1:07 is he trying to move the podium? He sort of gave up and did an "aw shucks" motion, like he's our friend . Crony capitalism is corrupting bureaucracy the nation over.

  • The more people that wise up and realize that most politicians are in the pocket of people with bucks, the better. Right now, as obvious as it is, most people just don't get that.

  • People still think the Politicians work for US?

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  • yeah the old guard definitely has to go. The problem is, their useless kids and other proteges are next in line and they are MUCH WORSE. I think that big government on any level simply has to go. What do these people produce? Fuck all. Reams of paper, enriching themselves and their buddies only and not just at the wage-slave's expense through taxation, no, that isn't enough. Now normal people are being double and triple and quadruple-dipped. Time for the trash to be taken out.

  • Cenk is the man. Much respect. I think he would do good in Politics as well. 

  • I wish I could have a transcript of this.

  • wow this is soo sad up on soo many levels bureaucracy and corruption is protecting the bad guys.

  • Article 1 Sec 8 and 10

    1) Gold and silver coin ONLY BY LAW

    2) Bills of credit are illegal currency - the government won't follow so you implode, total collaspe, country is toast

    Subversion

    The act of overturning, or the state of being overturned; entire overthrow; an overthrow from the foundation; utter ruin; destruction; as, the subversion of a government; the subversion of despotic power; the subversion of the constitution.

  • Keep being corrupt politicians. Eventually you'll go too far and you will have to answer the American People.

  • Your savior Obama takes MASSIVE contributions from Wall Street. The right-left paradigm is failing and people are waking up.

  • The American people deserve what they get. It's all about the money. And Orrin Hatch proves that money can get you anything you want. The USA is for sale to anyone. The public be dammed. The president is bought, Congress is bought and the Supreme Court is bought. Lol, BP owns us and they know it so that's why the Gulf will never be restored back to it's original condition. All they have to do is wait for an oil president to be in the White House.

  • @pongman Can not disagree with most of you thoughts and statements, Yes, this country is owned by "Big Business" and it's a crying shame that people are not standing up against the "Corporate Bullies". We have to take our country back before the greed destroys our only place in the universe that we can live...

    Man Made god, Not, god Made Man - Like Business, Religion and gods will be the end of the human species...

  • @stevethul1 What you and others either can't or don't want to realize is that the Public simply may not have the power or influence that you think it does. I don't believe it, have not seen any evidence suggesting it, for a while now.

    Look at what is going on with BP. There is, and has been, a huge outcry over everything that's been going on regarding it. Give me an example how any of that has amounted to ANYTHING.

    So start placing the blame where it belongs.

  • @Starry2000 I do realize what the public can do and we do have the power to change the world for the better, only if we all join together as one and stand up to these BP's and Monsanto's. BP is Britons biggest public retirement invested company and if everyone threatened to pulled their money out, I'm sure you would see a change in how they are handling this "World Changing" disaster that was created by all of us that use gasoline and other oil products. It's time for "Clean Energy" change...

  • @stevethul1 "if everyone threatened to pulled their money out"

    They aren't threatening, they ARE pulling their money out. BP has lost tens of Billions in that manner already, indeed about a month ago. They didn't change a damn thing.

    And your "well if we got together and sang Kumbaya" is nothing short of ridiculous. That would not accomplish anything other than raising the self esteem of some people and giving the ILLUSION that they accomplished something.

  • @Starry2000 What we REALLY need to do is all join hands and pray!

  • @stevethul1 "this "World Changing" disaster that was created by all of us that use gasoline "

    Another total BS line here. No. This was not caused by everyone who uses oil products. The blame lays squarely upon the shoulders of those at BP HQ, specifically those who rushed things despite safety problems.

  • You completely missed the point, maybe not clear on the meaning of where the blame lies. The world is dependent on "Fossil Products", we are all to blame, that is because the population as a whole could stand up and say "We want alternative fuels" being electric or non-carbon based modes of transport. No, this is not "B.S." because we can reduce the oil used by all of us. If you look at the Universe, it recycles most everything, we can mimic this through science. I do agree with blame to BP.

  • @stevethul1 "we are all to blame" "because the population as a whole could stand up"

    Yeah this would be bullshit. Like I said before, you have this complete and total disconnect from reality. Getting together to sing kumbaya isn't going to do anything, it is not the magic solution to every single problem that we face as according to your fantasies. We have to use oil, and the amount of oil that we do, because our very lives depend on it. We do what we do to just survive. You aren't realistic.

  • @Starry2000

    even as a liberal democrat, I have to agree. I'm sick of hearing people say "well if we just held hands and agreed to stop buying stuff that uses oil, we'd be better off" we'd be back in the stone age because the car companies almost completely refuse to let a fully electric car ever get made. Much less trucks or planes that are electric. Even our public transit systems like trains and buses aren't electric.

    Its not a coincidence, its the industry attacking the competition.

  • @stevethul1 or you could have said down with capitalism!!

  • The people take their grievances to actors, sorry, politicians like Hatch.

    Hatch Laughs.

    The Bankers continue looting the country.

    When do we say enough, when a gallon of milk costs $1,000?

  • there should be a whole lot of people people in jail who used their market maker and broker status in a coordinated dog piling naked short attack on capital markets in 08/09 that has gone entirely unprosecuted 2 years now after the crime.

    These psychopathic financial elites have us all by the balls until the military gets involved and cleans house IMO.

  • What did you American cowards expect after decades of failing to demand campaign finance reform... that the growing powers of Corporatocracy would enshrine the moral imperative and the filthy corrupt financial industry would set the gold standard for moral stewardship?

  • Politicians are slimeball pimps. WHY DO WE TOLERATE THIS SHIT?

  • Politicians like Hatch are far more dangerous than any murderer or petty thief.

  • Senator Hatch, we are watching you. Thank you Jenk and company!

  •  I finally agree with Cenk on something.

  • These are the republicans=neocons that need to go. The true patriots are for Ron Paul

  • @Panchee123 Newsflash Ron Paul is a republican that needs to go. Paul protects the same corporatocracy that Orin Hatch does, only difference is Ron Paul has a sweet sugar coating only low-information voters can taste.

  • @Panchee123 Obama and all his crap laws need to be dumped in the dumpster along his 4th reich comrades.Something has to be done about the political players.That is turd head and me part company.History has proven over time that big government becomes corrupt over time.Put the power back into the hands of the states and see how fast the economy turns around.

  • I can sum all this up in four words.

    But instead, let me ask this!

    Where is ana?

  • Cenk.....nice pontificating.....no substance but the blood vessels in your neck were popping..nice effect......

  • These politicians are going to look pretty fucked up dangling from a tree , and Judas money burning under their feet .

    I don't want that , but i see it happening .

  • The real president is Ben Shalom Bernanke.

  • The key to this video is when the man told Hatch the taxpayers bought worthless junk bonds....look at how uncomfortable he got and started moving the podium....all elected officials have done this to themselves....their constant lies and broken promises have finally caught up with them....the people want to trust someone but the only thing they have done was taught everyone not to trust anyone...they have played this lying game to long and the people see it now

  • good stuff.

  • "git! git! rough talk him and run him off"

  • Orin is just another CORPORATE WHORE!!

  • They're all Corporate Whores.

    Bush, McCain, Obama, Palin, Clinton Biden.

    Give me a fucking break, our Political System is a fucking joke.

  • @EMPIREofPUPPETS Very true. Too bad most Americans are too stupid to figure that out! I have given up on our political system!

  • @braveheart1779 American stupidity is what they bank on, literally.

  • @DillonDee1 Oh COURSE, he is a republican!!!!!!

  • Goldman-Sachs was the 2nd biggest campaign contributor to * Obama *. How can you people be so clueless?

  • @shochikubai26 That isn't being disputed. We say that all of the electives have been bought out, Obama included.

  • i knew i didn't like that guy, Yeah he'll do anything for money and power. Satan got 'im.

  • When you let the American ppl off their leash, they will tear a senator-up every time!

  • Republican, democrat = two sides of the same coin. Vote Libertarian

  • We need to get these old fogies out of the White House. They're a bunch of lying snakes who are out of touch with common Americans.

  • So who's cock do I have to suck to become a banker?

  • @Shadowlit001 probably a banker :P

  • You are stupid the reform bills all have provisions that would keep bailing out the to big to fail. Please read the bills. That is why many on both sides would not vote on the reform. As far as pull the wool over eyes both parties are full of corrupt politicians. Of the 535 only a dozen deserve their job. Grow up and smell the coffee people it is time to get rid of 90% in the house and senate.

  • Whenever a politician is confronted with the question, "who side are you on?" the answer is like the one Orrin Hatch gave, complete bs. It shouldn't matter whether you wear an orange hat or a purple hat, politicians like Hatch must be kicked out. Failure to do so is what gets our country into trouble and we have only ourselves to blame.

  • It is time to "Clean House", vote all incumbents out of office and get some "New Blood" representing us...

  • @stevethul1 when we vote in "New blood" to represent us the only ones who really benefit are the lobbyists. We need to put the fear of god into our existing elected officials.

  • @antifaith82 So True, but, Which god should we use for the fear factor?

    As far as I am concerned the only god that exist is the "Universe" and the only jesus is "Science". As we already know, most "Right Wing Bible Thumper's" think that they are going to a place that was made up by man. What a shame there isn't a real god to fear...

    Man Made god, Not, god Made Man - Send Religion and god back to the Bronze Age Never to Return - NEVER!!!

  • @stevethul1 Agreed, which is apparent to most people by the way I spelled it with a lowercase g. It's just a saying not to be taken literally. But while we're on the subject I agree with System of a Down when they say science has failed our mother earth.

  • @antifaith82 - I must ask, Why do you say "Science has Failed our Mother Earth"? When science is doing all that it can to show people that we are going to be our own demise...

    Man Made god, Not, god Made Man - The Universe is my god and Science is my jesus...

  • @stevethul1 Today a large part of science is in the hands of the wealthy private elite, much in the same way that religion is. That's why. Good example of this is how Monsanto has wiped out the biodiversity of the world's corn.

    I'm not religious nor do I believe in god so take your slogans and shove em up your ass.

  • @antifaith82 -Did a little research about the corn issue you are correct about the "Corn's" biodiversity being eroded with current strains that are being used for fuel productions. As for "Slogans" being shove up my ass - Too bad you've only seen one of my "Anti Religious, Anti god" signatures which I always post when making comments on theses channels. You have taken this wit, the Wrong Way.

    Man Made god, Not, god Made Man-Send god and religions back to the Bronze Age, Never to Return - NEVER!

  • @stevethul1 lol baby jesus :/)

  • was the "git, git, rough talk him and run him off" a reference to the recent bigfoot sighting? hah!

  • I am starting to wonder if the United States has the intellectual wherewithal to elect effective honest officials. There is so much focus on things that don’t matter, and so little thought given to the things that do.

    Pretty much everyone in the World knows that the US is on the way down. America may not get the government it needs, but it will certainly end up with the one it deserves.

  • @aldushuxley We do. The problem is that our elected officials are all shit. The good ones get bought out (Obama) or the supposed choices we have when voting are all corrupt to begin with. We also can't find the good ones because the corrupt guys have sooo much more financial backing to advertise their campaigns. Big business is incredibly powerful and there just aren't enough good politicians to stand up to them

  • @Tigersmind87, I agree with you.

  • @aldushuxley sad but true!

  • @aldushuxley this is what happens when you do erode public education for 30 or so years, people get stupid, then you shift from a manufacturing based economy to a consumer based one, people are too busy buying shiny things to care.. 

  • @phoboskitty, you're not wrong.

  • @aldushuxley Just watch the movie Idiocraty if you want to know your future.

  • @aldushuxley

    that's probably something people don't want to admit to themselves...these people don't just fall into office, we are letting them in and continue to squat there..all the while letting ourselves get caught up in the most trivial and inconsequential stuff Just go into the YoungTurks home page and sort the uploads by Most Viewed and see what kind of stuff makes up the top half of the list...sad.

  • @aldushuxley Every power has later fallen, from Athens, Sparta, Persia, Macedon, and Rome, to France, Britain, Russia and Germany. Once America falls, China will takes its place, only to later fall just the same.

  • He shouldn't be addressed as "Senator Hatch", but as "Corporate Whore Hatch".

  • This is such a cheap shot and is FAR from the point of what really happened and what lead to the crash. C.R.A created under Carter, which includes the creation of Fannie/Freddie & Indy Mac. Was ANY research done before this crap was hashed together? Short answer - NO. Who recieved the most contributions from these Banks like Goldman? Obama.

  • I say Cenk should stop reporting on this stuff and get into politics himself

  • @JaywalkerJack Can you imagine if him and Grayson became the two senators for any state? That state would immediately become the envy of the nation.

  • Who gave the banks the money, where these banks should have been allowed to COLLAPSE under there own problems? That is right, the DEMS and the REPUBS.

    Who DID not allow the Federal Reserve to get audited? That is right, the DEMS and the REPUBS.

    Who on this video is blaming ONLY the REPUBS? Oh, that would be the idiots at TYT and other idiots posting comments.

    Drink some more koolaid and go babaaaaahhhhhh ! LOL. IDIOTS!

  • @endisnighe

    Good comment. These clowns are playing these people who are obsessed with playing red vs. blue like a fiddle - & everyone else is forced to be stuck with the consequences.

  • Since when was asking a question' calling out'? Is it usually just flag waving clapping?

    In britian we hold our policitians to account on a constituency level, by asking piercing questions.

  • @nadoom well this aint Britain

  • You go get em Cenk! Go get em som bitches!!!

  • Hatch DOES think they are dumb, and he DOES think he is tricking them. Did you hear all of the people applauding his response to the question? A majority of those people have no idea, and they take pride in not knowing. All they have is their ignorance. They don't want to hear how crooked republicans like Hatch are. As long as hating gays and baby killers is in the discussion, none of the other "political" stuff matters.

  • @thesaxsoloist exactly what i was thinking

  • Republicans are either dumbshit racist hicks without a clue or evil greedy pigs. Way to go GOPieces of shit. Orin Hatch is a worthless pig that deserves to be executed for treason.

  • @kurd55 while it's rather ugly to think of such things in 2010, i completely agree. how many of these swine would be so greedy, if those of them would were guilty of such crimes were in fact prosecuted and executed in public?

    of course, people should become more active in politics so it doesn't get this bad, but hey.

    ;d

  • ...and you heard him, he's part of the judiciary commitee that is bent on protecting the bank robbers. Explains why nobody is going to jail. Everyday they are robbing people....it is corporate socialism and its why they dont want the humans to have any socialism of their own. They believe it's a govt by the people for the corporations.

  • Ghiet! Ghiet!

  • Time for voting a third party, make sure to write in communist party they know more of the problems in america than the the other two parties. PERIOD!!!

  • I'm the 8001st viewer

  • @Paragon23100 me too!

  • You can't blame the politicians, you have to blame the American people for participating in government every four years and expecting something to actually happen in there favor. ni4d*US

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    Dave Allen on being cheap and lying

    Lying isn't a tactic.

  • Beautiful, "why am I holding back" and nice use of "rough talk".

  • don't you just love career conservative politicians blaming "big government"? when will people wake up? it's like republicans running on change against their own president.

    tired of corporations running the government of the people? start with getting rid of career republicans and watch the culture change.

  • Party of incumbents...boy that's a lable that fits. I'm tired of these career politicians!

  • It's funny how republicans defend these guys even though it's their money that is being taken too. How can they not see that??

  • @LtShock Because they fear change that much.

  • this guy is a scumbag, he only go after the people who voted for him and than cut off their unemployment check after he and his colleges left them without jobs! and call them crocks, and drug addicts who don't deserve unemployment lol!! 

  • I love how some hicks can claim that high-ranking, intelligent bankers are "destroying the economy" when the overall global economy is growing and when those hicks have never passed Algebra II.

  • @MiyazakiKnight You are contradicting yourself. The global and national economies are on two different scales. The rest of the world could have positive GDP while the US could be in decline. What others are pointing out is the negative effect American banking activity is doing to the American economy. That activity may or may not negatively affect another country.

  • The over all economy is growing?? dude, millions of people are losing their jobs to the chinese...how the hell does the number one consumer economy grow when output from china is slowing because a huge part of america is no longer buying anything?? People lost their pensions, the baby boomers are retiring en masse by the tens of millions needing taxpayer support to pay their pension or they have to live on the streets. california cant afford to pay their cops or firemen.

  • @2:30 Hatch asks "what was the original problem that caused this great financial downfall?

    And the crowd answers like brainwashed zombies "Fannie and Freddie"....

    what a joke...

    the American public have so little knowledge of whats going on in their country and whats actually reality and truth that its makes you sick..

    It wasnt Fannie and Freddie republican morons...

    It was derivatives and especially the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 and removal of the Glass-Steagal act.

  • @mYOzZyKaT I think it's a larger problem. People have bought into the idea that no one has to pay for anything with taxes, and those in power have discovered they can divide the treasury among their supporters.

    Bush said as much when his tax cuts were instituted in 2001. "It's YOUR money," so you can have it back, with no plan to fund the cuts.

    You are right.

  • @vidguy007 I do not know about the "not paying for anything" idea. People must some sense of economy. The really hard large problem is the institutionalized lying in American politics and the total unashamed parade of bullshit, lies and making stuff up that constitutes the republican political strategy that Barry Goldwater refined and Bush senior adopted and passed on to his moronic offspring:

    lie

    make stuff up

    blame somebody else

  • The 60 votes thing again. lol

    Hatch is all an act like most of our politicians. Take a look at his finances which are public, he is heavily invested not only in these large banks but in the drug companies, he is a total fraud and he has not once supported or introduced any legislation that would control these monsters.

  • This has been a problem for a long time. It isn't the Rep. party or the Dem. party. It's a party of incumbents. They are more focussed on getting reelected than on solving any problems. As long as there are problems then they got something to campaign against. They sell themselves to us but all the while they are compromised and obligated to the big money interests that donate large sums of money. They "sell out". We need to call them out and hold them accountable. ALL of them. "TERM LIMITS"

  • He starts talking about how much he hates the wall street reform bill, and the first thing he mentions is the length??

  • @11111110

    Ugh, I know. I have to wonder just what can be done to save that country from intellectual nonexistence.

  • When did any democrat go after a banker??? WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE? Oh lets see democrats. I am all for term limits for all and they shoud not get a pension.You serve 8 years and DONE!

  • The GOP must have bs talking point meetings at least 3 times a week.

  • When someone says the health care bill is a bad thing, I'd like someone to ask them:

    "Without using the term Death Panels or Government takeover (unless you explain EXACTLY what is being taken over) please explain exactly what it is that you oppose."

    "Having health insurance is our system. If you are against this system, what system do you propose?"

  • @vidguy007 I`m Brazilian and I confess I don`t know the details about the Health Care Bill, but I`ll allow myself my 2 cents to this. Here they made Health Care free and universal in the Constitution in 1985 (we call it SUS). Results: 1) the free service is of the lowest quality possible, almost inhumane and cruel. Private health companies have grown incredibly since then.

  • @gilsonbicudo The reason your health system is in chaos is not because of "free" care, it's because your country allows ridiculous treatments and ridiculously high payments to doctors to work in the poorer areas and private insurers are still invested in your so-called "universal" care. Brazil's health care is barely 7% of it's GDP where as in the US it's beyond 16% and we don't have a public option. The similarities of our nations is our political systems are corrupt and the citizens don't vote

  • @TheUSMetalhead I can`t discuss figures: I don`t have them. The US is certainly much richer, so I suppose you guys can/could do better to the general population`s health whatever system you adopt. Our previous system worked better. Every worker had paid a certain amount and he and his family were covered by a reasonably decent service, yet provided by the government. Very poor people were still attended in a sort of charitable system. Only very rich had private insurance.

  • @gilsonbicudo Here in the US we pretend we don't have health care for everyone. If someone refuses to play the game and has no insurance and can't pay, we have state programs, which LOTS of people use.

    Pretending provides people who don't want universal health care an excuse to not realize we already do.

    No country with a functioning government can let people die on the streets. Universal health care is a reality.

    Here, people who can't pay get good care, but sometimes too late.

  • @vidguy007 "If someone refuses to play the game and has no insurance and can't pay, we have state programs, which LOTS of people use."

    Evidently you've never been in the position where you can't AFFORD health insurance because they've raised the rates beyond your reach, or can't GET coverage due to a pre-existing condition, but earn too much to qualify for state programs? My husband may have prostate cancer but is in limbo till we can find the money for another biopsy. This is shameful!!

  • @ismeme I meant, of course, OR can't pay. This was in response to a Brazilian guy's comment. They have universal health care. So do we, but since we pretend we don't, the care is often to little, or too late. We would pay less and have better care if we just understood that it costs more the way we do it.

    Yes, I have been lucky, I have worked for good companies that provide good insurance coverage. Unfortunately, not everyone has this coverage.

    I hope your husband is ok.

  • @vidguy007 You're right, it does cost more the way we do it, and for that reason I have to disagree with your assertion that we have universal health care. There is no equal access to health care in the US, not by a long shot, even with the new bill. You have the health care you can afford, and for tens of millions of Americans who are in the same boat my husband and I are, that's virtually none.

    Thanks for your good wishes. If only I could parlay them into the attention my husband needs.

  • wow, i fucking hate this corruption today, but its not like its a novelty or anything. DAMN YOU GILDED AGE!

  • Funny, Hatch wants there to be less government control yet he's a fucking senator.. 

  • What is the different between gun robbery and pen robbery?

    1. Gun cause homicide. Pen cause suicide.

    2. Gun take penny change compare with pen robbery.

    3. Gun robbery is illegal while pen is almost always legal.

    4. Gun robbery is easy and no education requirement while pen robbery need wise intelligent people with high education most of the time.

    In another words, is there a different between these 2? No. They are the exact thing. It is all about how you play the game, whether you win or lose.

  • The people in Utah ARE dumb. Whether Hatch thinks they are or not, the fact is.... they are scary dumb.

  • What caused the original problem?

    Drones "Fannie and Freddie"

    These people are trained parrots.

  • another dumbass republican

  • No party has fought harder against the big bank corruption harder than Hatch and the Republcians, and if that guy really wanted to lock up the crooks who are robbing this country, theres plenty of Democrats who do nothing but use their big government bullying to mug ($20 billion from a PRIVATE corporation) this country of it's free market principles. The free market is will crack down on anyone who breaks the rules, but the liberals have broken EVERY rule, just look at the constitution.

  • @tehant1liberal - provide ONE fact!!! Please!!!