@parena9090 Would you like to find a friend? As long as you bathe properly and have basic table manners there is no reason why you should be alone. Take a class at a local community college or community center. There are always other people looking for fun and companionship.
despite what bt and others have to say about this, i think you are a genious on this man. most people dont realize that asia was animist, and underneath that religion they had a martial art called te/tae. its best survived in the korean style of tae kyon( you should check that out.) thank you for this jewel sir. what was the tibetan bagua you were talking about?
@thedaoofthewarrior Thanks for the kind words and the Taekkyon idea, now I have to make a trip to Korea. The little bit of Tibetan bagua I learned was from a guy who wants it kept secret for political reasons, and he no longer teaches it. But it isn't lost and it will reappear at some point in the next 200 years.
I'm sick of you people! It's precisely you new age hippies who are ruining CMA because you don't practice fighting or train diligently, and end up mixing cultures and religions in hopes of faster advance. Just please don't teach your bagua to anybody.
@Scalier ....Hey junoir, when I was your age I was training full time. Have you any experience with traditional Chinese martial arts or are you some Y-gen with only a mouth and thumbs? Get off the internet and do horse stance for an hour. When you have as much experience as my baby toe, feel free to comment on my teaching methods. This video is not about how to train fighting, it is about history and culture. I CHALLENGE YOU....TO READ A BOOK!
@ogscott I do have experience, and I see that what you have learned is good, but what you practice is not. You can read all the books and do horse stance as much as you like, but if you don't seek for the martial withing the art, it's just art.
@Scalier Oh, I see where you are going with that. Yeah, you have been lied to by your teachers. Most likely they were lied to also. Actually the "popular" and "professional" theater/ritual arts of China were always martial. I'm talking seriously martial. So I retort, with history to my back, that it isn't "just art" UNLESS it is martial!
I enjoyed your humor as well as your honesty in truth, about the relationship with dance, and the martial arts (internal system). If man could just let go of EGO, and grasp the true SPIRIT of BROTHERHOOD this rock would be a WONDERFUL place
Allot of times when I see something very unusual I ask my self, is this guy out of his mind or is he a brilliant performance artist? You sir are the latter! Bravo!
Your proximity to a religion (or any other category) determines how specific you are. There is no such thing as bread either. There are groups of religious expression on the Chinese Continent which can be compared to groups of religious expression on the African Continent.
Well, historically "China" is as diverse religiously as Africa. Which is the point, and some scholars have argued that it should be thought of as continent-like.
Well, Ogscott, you just made my original point. Africa is a religiously diverse Continent. What I was trying to point out to you was that if you discuss the entire African land mass as if it contains only one tribe, one language or one culture an African historian will not take your ideas seriously. I would be just as inaccurate to make a You Tube video called 'European Dance' and only demonstrate Irish Step Dancing giving the impression that all dancing in Europe took this form as its base.
Except that I'm talking generally about martial arts in China...so comparing dance, generally, in Africa seems appropriate. Still, if this were a scholarly paper instead of a wild afternoon spontaneous rant on youtube...your point would be helpful.
Sorry if I took your video too seriously. I've lived in two different African countries and I've observed spectacular cultural differences in dance (among other things) within the tribes of those same countries. All the best to your martial arts practice.
At 4:50 I'm doing Liuhe style Xinyi. If you don't think it works, you are simply wrong. Perhaps you are trying to make a different point?
No, the story you heard about Dong Haichuan is probably false, at least in the details. Baguazhang was an art long before he got to it, it was just a secret ritual art. Do you even know what a Daoist monk is? The story is unlikely. What he said is he learned it from two hermits. The truth has yet to be unraveled.
Well BZM, you have choices. You can go to my blog "weakness with a twist," read up a little and engage in an intelligent debate. You can make your own video response. Or you can challenge Chuck Liddell to a fight to the death in the "cage" while wearing blind folds and fishnet stockings.
Mate thanks for you're lightness...i enjoy the vids and the relaxed presentation even if im not sure where you are coming from, ontological freedom is all good!
lol he took some hallucinogen while reading a bagua book and watching Africans on TV. There is no way something as advanced as bagua comes from primitive beings who don't even need to fight. He's hilarious i ll give him that ... weed lol...
ur ridiculous arent u teaching martial art? i cant believe people with absolutely no knowledge at all have the guts to mix an art for killing with some dances
First Ive never heard of bagua.Please excuse fragments.. I am interested in subjugated cultures hiding their martial arts in music and dance!So just some thoughts on your interesting post.
In communing with the spirits of sifus,ancestors,spirits of power...
Obviously Narayan I've pushed your buttons. And obviously we have some over lapping interests. Perhaps you have become too broad in your pursuits and it has left you unbalanced? Beng-Chuan is not a friendly greeting. I'm guessing that the traditions you have been studying require you to subordinate to them, and you are, out of fear, presuming that I would ask the same.
Subordination is not part of my practice. check out my blog "Weakness with a Twist"
I just pulled this off your page, apparently about yourself. You're sort of confused about feelings, arent you?
"I am a practitioner of Ving Tsun who is, by the way, open to other martial art forms. Nevertheless, being a socialized human being (as we all are), I am therefore partial to certain systems of movement over others. However, this in no way implies that I feel that those systems which I do not study are either inferior or even superior to my chosen vessels of bodily expression."
Hi Pelepeng, I will if you check out my blog "Weakness With a twist." Frankly, the reason I find it hard to recommend a book is that scholars and musicians don't have a huge overlap. Wouldn't it be great if someone wrote a book about music in ancient China that really explained the ways people thought about it.
Bagua is a term that is only a hundred years old. When Dong Hai Chuan taught my great-grandmaster and he taught his students who taught my present master Bagua was known as Zhuan Zhang (spiraling or turning palm). Despite the animal forms in Bagua the system primarily focusses (depending on your teacher) drills, applications, circle walking and conditioning like Paida (as practiced by Master Tian in Beijing and Ma Chuan Xu)
Sadly the 20th Century did much to cut Chinese people off from their roots. The search for power and potency are not just body mechanics, not now and certainly not historically.
Baguazhang got its 'new' name because it was so obviously close to its religious roots. The attempt to make it only phyilosophical and practical comes from both Confucianism and the West.
The use of strange forms and animal movements simply makes the technique easier to remember and it becomes part of the broader study of the internal arts, qigong and chinese medicine.
My man, I have trained with some of the best Bagua masters in China and I don't believe you have the first clue on the subject. Bagua, Xingyi Taiji Pilates, Yoga, Baji etc etc. all have on thing in common-body mechanics and power drills. It is funny how it is the west that has made the Chinese arts mystical.
Well that depends on what you mean by the word "connected." Certainly there is a historic connection and certainly there are people doing qigong that we might call animists, who call themselves daoists. And of course there are people practicing "animist" traditions who train and have always trained gongfu. My case is pretty strong, but feel free to present some counter evidence.
No, all you exposing is your disgusting, pathetic racism. You are a racist totalitarian, just like your piece of trash corrupt commie masters in china.
Precisely the region is where Europe, Africa, and Asia meet. I am not emotionally drawn as you to order with high feelings of admiration and awe of your pride and arrogant. You are defining on the term loosely or emotionally in Geography. Middle east should contain parts of North Africa (not Africa) and South-west Asia. I have nothing to hide. Go and look up in the Atlas.
Bagua is a sequence of pairs to form 64 possible comination. That is related to I -Ching. SO what is it that all these matters swayed to African dance or Chinese Music. Please read and find out more of Ganzhi systemc found in Bagua. Basically the Ganzhi system, composing of the Ten Celestial Stems and Twelve Terrestrial Branches. The truth is the China has a strong link to Middle East, not Africa.
The Ganzhi or Chinese Calendar/Almanac is the oldest continuously published book on earth. I have followed it closely for about 10 years. A closer look at the Ganzhi will strongly support my case.
One way to understand it is as a composite/synchronization of all the calendars used by all the different ethnic and regional religous cults of China and it's neighbors. It is a collection of all religions perceptions of time, (really!). So baguazhang is in a sense like the Calendar, a collection of all the different physiologies of trance practiced in China.
Because Youtube only allows 500 words, I have a more complete answer with links at my blog "Weakness with a Twist" under the title 'the Chinese Calendar'. Thanks for a great question!
I agree with the points you mentioned. Movements like Bagua is related to I-Ching and 64 movement of change. One need to visualize on these broader wisdom and philosophy to see how Pakua evolve. Motion of change in pakua is like storing of energy (body), transform (turning in circle) and open (projection of force). One question (food for thought): Where is the centre and balance for Bagua? Can any of the Afican dance be included as neijia or internal arts?
African dance does have some vocabulary I would call "internal" and they often sing in a very internally specific way. Many movements of African dance, if done very small, (what we in neijia sometimes call hidden) would qualify as internal in my opinion. But I should add that, usually African dancer's bodies are exterally hard. This is also true of some neijia but it is not the norm. Great question/comment!
I have seen Bagua practiced a lot of differnt ways for instance, I know a very good practisioner who always leans in toward the center while walking the circle. The simple answer is, the center of balance in bagua moves and there is more than one of them.
Funny but interesting. You, however struck a chord here. I would have to agree with Mr. BT and Mr. DB. It's just something that people are not ready for, and or capable of listening to.
My teaher in youth(sifu Stanley Walcott R.I.P.) would actually incorporate this idealogy into xingi/bagua. Being Latino myself,it made all the sense in the world.For ex. you cant lecture on the Hist. of salsa w/out referencing African Rythym(But, when dancing they both are 1 thing).
***part 3 of 3*** When referencing IMA (although not referenced 99.5% of the time in schools), you do "eventually" mix your instinctively given energy/culture with what ever your body evolves into. By evolving, I mean tentative studying in IMA. Well, in my case.
Yo ogscott all jokes a side, I have an good idea of where you was trying to go in your video. But on the real like DaiBoxer pointed out a lot people are not ready for that kind of Topic. Yo Check out African Presence in Early Asia by Runoko Rashidi. Have a lot of good information. Again you one funny cat. LOL
What is sure, is that all civilization (I prefer talking about civilization than colors...) had always be in touch with each other and that they always bring things to each other. What is sure is that the first man, and surely the first civilisation, were from africa... But I don't like those poeple who wants to reinterpret all history from a color, black or white... It remind me bad memories...We all have two legs and two arms, that's the real point...
Very interesting analogies my friend. Definitely much truth in what you touched upon. But as you can see, alot of people just are not ready for this kind of topic. You were spot on about Africen and Chinese music.
African I-FA is suspected by many as the source of Chinese I-Ching. The principles are identical. Check Wayne Chander's book ancient future which really expounds upon this.
I must say I like your light hearted spirit. Cheers.
Yo, WTF? I gotta say, dudes got some serious cojones to post that and not be afraid to express his thoughts and dance moves so openly. He seems pretty limber and energetic- when he talks its almost like he's doing silk reeling.
Hey man, I thought it was great entertainment. It shows a relaxed loose quality necessary for both internal arts and dancing, which is common in all cultures-- think about all the Deadheads airdancing at Greatful Dead concerts!
I have removed about 10 comments concerning drug use. I was arrested in 1990 for Dancing in the Oakland Airport. The police claimed they thought I was on drugs. When are people going to learn that lazy people take drugs, the rest of us get high dancing? Every high and low you can have is already in your body, you just have to get to know yourself (fearlessly). Thanks for the suggestion about avoiding Long-Spear Duels (LSD's)in general, sharp sticks can be nasty.
Wath are they on? Ok, there is probably some truth, we know it, but this is so "we and they"... This is not only african and chinese who have dancing or druming in common... Mankind has it... I'm white but this man is too white: too much thinking, too much reading, too much seperating "we and they"... Just do man, you do it well, so do... One dance, one fight, one love
LOL, haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa! These guys something else. What's not funny, is there probably is some truth in what he says. As sifu curry states "fighting should be like dancing." i.e. Capoeira! Peace!
did anyone care to notice how it says "expect irony productions" ?
aabobis 3 months ago
this dude is a comic genius
aabobis 3 months ago
A man, with no friends, all alone. So sad.
parena9090 4 months ago 3
@parena9090 Would you like to find a friend? As long as you bathe properly and have basic table manners there is no reason why you should be alone. Take a class at a local community college or community center. There are always other people looking for fun and companionship.
ogscott 4 months ago
despite what bt and others have to say about this, i think you are a genious on this man. most people dont realize that asia was animist, and underneath that religion they had a martial art called te/tae. its best survived in the korean style of tae kyon( you should check that out.) thank you for this jewel sir. what was the tibetan bagua you were talking about?
thedaoofthewarrior 9 months ago
@thedaoofthewarrior Thanks for the kind words and the Taekkyon idea, now I have to make a trip to Korea. The little bit of Tibetan bagua I learned was from a guy who wants it kept secret for political reasons, and he no longer teaches it. But it isn't lost and it will reappear at some point in the next 200 years.
ogscott 9 months ago
is this satire?
trinitypdt 11 months ago
I'm sick of you people! It's precisely you new age hippies who are ruining CMA because you don't practice fighting or train diligently, and end up mixing cultures and religions in hopes of faster advance. Just please don't teach your bagua to anybody.
Scalier 1 year ago
@Scalier ....Hey junoir, when I was your age I was training full time. Have you any experience with traditional Chinese martial arts or are you some Y-gen with only a mouth and thumbs? Get off the internet and do horse stance for an hour. When you have as much experience as my baby toe, feel free to comment on my teaching methods. This video is not about how to train fighting, it is about history and culture. I CHALLENGE YOU....TO READ A BOOK!
ogscott 1 year ago
@ogscott I do have experience, and I see that what you have learned is good, but what you practice is not. You can read all the books and do horse stance as much as you like, but if you don't seek for the martial withing the art, it's just art.
Scalier 1 year ago
@Scalier Oh, I see where you are going with that. Yeah, you have been lied to by your teachers. Most likely they were lied to also. Actually the "popular" and "professional" theater/ritual arts of China were always martial. I'm talking seriously martial. So I retort, with history to my back, that it isn't "just art" UNLESS it is martial!
ogscott 1 year ago
scott - you're a phenom - if you had a daily reality show of hybrid lecturing, you'd have a significant global audience - keith
henner59 1 year ago
Hahahaha! Good stuff!
baguaplayer 1 year ago
.... wtf ...
imbrd 2 years ago
cool dance !
arbizm 2 years ago
I enjoyed your humor as well as your honesty in truth, about the relationship with dance, and the martial arts (internal system). If man could just let go of EGO, and grasp the true SPIRIT of BROTHERHOOD this rock would be a WONDERFUL place
handsofgod7 2 years ago
Bless you crazy cloud!
I particularly enjoyed the Tibetan references...youre way out there in the bardo fields...and Legba...oh my word!
That said though your "martial"art (not the styles) seems shit but then whats a pearl to an oyster or vomit to a hungry dog..LMAO!!!
SAN DAI GING HONG!
YANHAP1 2 years ago
Allot of times when I see something very unusual I ask my self, is this guy out of his mind or is he a brilliant performance artist? You sir are the latter! Bravo!
GOG777 2 years ago
There is no such thing as 'the religion of Africa ", any more than there is "the religion of Asia"
egglot12 2 years ago
Your proximity to a religion (or any other category) determines how specific you are. There is no such thing as bread either. There are groups of religious expression on the Chinese Continent which can be compared to groups of religious expression on the African Continent.
ogscott 2 years ago
ogscott, china is not a continent
egglot12 2 years ago
Well, historically "China" is as diverse religiously as Africa. Which is the point, and some scholars have argued that it should be thought of as continent-like.
ogscott 2 years ago
Well, Ogscott, you just made my original point. Africa is a religiously diverse Continent. What I was trying to point out to you was that if you discuss the entire African land mass as if it contains only one tribe, one language or one culture an African historian will not take your ideas seriously. I would be just as inaccurate to make a You Tube video called 'European Dance' and only demonstrate Irish Step Dancing giving the impression that all dancing in Europe took this form as its base.
egglot12 2 years ago
Except that I'm talking generally about martial arts in China...so comparing dance, generally, in Africa seems appropriate. Still, if this were a scholarly paper instead of a wild afternoon spontaneous rant on youtube...your point would be helpful.
ogscott 2 years ago
Sorry if I took your video too seriously. I've lived in two different African countries and I've observed spectacular cultural differences in dance (among other things) within the tribes of those same countries. All the best to your martial arts practice.
egglot12 2 years ago
This isn't very funny.
wmonkey9 2 years ago 2
you should try capoeira, there is alot of fun of that kind :)
kwaig0n 2 years ago
No.
I have nothing to prove. And just for the record, your credibility is already less than mine.
ogscott 2 years ago
At 4:50 I'm doing Liuhe style Xinyi. If you don't think it works, you are simply wrong. Perhaps you are trying to make a different point?
No, the story you heard about Dong Haichuan is probably false, at least in the details. Baguazhang was an art long before he got to it, it was just a secret ritual art. Do you even know what a Daoist monk is? The story is unlikely. What he said is he learned it from two hermits. The truth has yet to be unraveled.
ogscott 2 years ago
Well BZM, you have choices. You can go to my blog "weakness with a twist," read up a little and engage in an intelligent debate. You can make your own video response. Or you can challenge Chuck Liddell to a fight to the death in the "cage" while wearing blind folds and fishnet stockings.
ogscott 2 years ago
Mate thanks for you're lightness...i enjoy the vids and the relaxed presentation even if im not sure where you are coming from, ontological freedom is all good!
resonance10 3 years ago
I think you have a lot of valid points!Very inspiring!
Thank you!
bagua007 3 years ago
this hippie is out of it! African religion... does he know Africa is a continent?
GPadre 3 years ago 3
Didn't Sun Ra say, "Africa is a state of mind?"
ogscott 3 years ago
lol he took some hallucinogen while reading a bagua book and watching Africans on TV. There is no way something as advanced as bagua comes from primitive beings who don't even need to fight. He's hilarious i ll give him that ... weed lol...
sHuaiiRen 3 years ago
I'm finding your comment rather primitive.
ogscott 3 years ago
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DaiBoxer 2 years ago
Primitive beings huh? Mr ShuaiRen your statement is what seems primitive friend.
DaiBoxer 2 years ago
ur ridiculous arent u teaching martial art? i cant believe people with absolutely no knowledge at all have the guts to mix an art for killing with some dances
sHuaiiRen 2 years ago
I guess you don't know that a dance is an "art?"
NeoBaku 2 years ago
The Music-- to to blend and become in concert with(African).... Or break the barriers awake the spirits(Chinese music)to summon the attentions of .
The dance---- swimming in the dimension of power .
To imbibe,soak up, charge up....
Also cultivate and promote flow of chi internally with these movements...
before a martial battle, an attempt at healing,or a bartering ,business session.
I like your relaxed, fun way of presentation!
Have you taken many multicultural dance classes?
Peacenrespect 3 years ago
First Ive never heard of bagua.Please excuse fragments.. I am interested in subjugated cultures hiding their martial arts in music and dance!So just some thoughts on your interesting post.
In communing with the spirits of sifus,ancestors,spirits of power...
Peacenrespect 3 years ago
This string bean needs to practice a whole lot of standing meditation (in silence for a thousand years) I just want to Beng-Chuan his stupid ass!
narayanr 3 years ago 8
Obviously Narayan I've pushed your buttons. And obviously we have some over lapping interests. Perhaps you have become too broad in your pursuits and it has left you unbalanced? Beng-Chuan is not a friendly greeting. I'm guessing that the traditions you have been studying require you to subordinate to them, and you are, out of fear, presuming that I would ask the same.
Subordination is not part of my practice. check out my blog "Weakness with a Twist"
ogscott 3 years ago
Whats a Beng-Chuan? Teach me your power.
mrkurt13 3 years ago
I just pulled this off your page, apparently about yourself. You're sort of confused about feelings, arent you?
"I am a practitioner of Ving Tsun who is, by the way, open to other martial art forms. Nevertheless, being a socialized human being (as we all are), I am therefore partial to certain systems of movement over others. However, this in no way implies that I feel that those systems which I do not study are either inferior or even superior to my chosen vessels of bodily expression."
mrkurt13 3 years ago
I have one simple question:
Why is this White Man the one to introduce Black Man Bagua?
Don't you guys ever give up? And there IS a direct link between China/Egypt/Ethiopia.
You just haven't researched enough ... and stop smoking so much, dude!
narayanr 3 years ago 2
Classic
OhFahtMuhk 4 years ago
Could you give me a reference for what you said about Chinese music in this video? I would like to read something about that. Thank you!
pelepeng 4 years ago
Hi Pelepeng, I will if you check out my blog "Weakness With a twist." Frankly, the reason I find it hard to recommend a book is that scholars and musicians don't have a huge overlap. Wouldn't it be great if someone wrote a book about music in ancient China that really explained the ways people thought about it.
ogscott 4 years ago
Bagua is a term that is only a hundred years old. When Dong Hai Chuan taught my great-grandmaster and he taught his students who taught my present master Bagua was known as Zhuan Zhang (spiraling or turning palm). Despite the animal forms in Bagua the system primarily focusses (depending on your teacher) drills, applications, circle walking and conditioning like Paida (as practiced by Master Tian in Beijing and Ma Chuan Xu)
bengquan78 4 years ago
Hi Bengquan, thankyou for your comments. I agree with everything you've said (except the "not a clue" part). But none of it contradicts me.
ogscott 4 years ago
Sadly the 20th Century did much to cut Chinese people off from their roots. The search for power and potency are not just body mechanics, not now and certainly not historically.
Baguazhang got its 'new' name because it was so obviously close to its religious roots. The attempt to make it only phyilosophical and practical comes from both Confucianism and the West.
ogscott 4 years ago
The use of strange forms and animal movements simply makes the technique easier to remember and it becomes part of the broader study of the internal arts, qigong and chinese medicine.
bengquan78 4 years ago
My man, I have trained with some of the best Bagua masters in China and I don't believe you have the first clue on the subject. Bagua, Xingyi Taiji Pilates, Yoga, Baji etc etc. all have on thing in common-body mechanics and power drills. It is funny how it is the west that has made the Chinese arts mystical.
bengquan78 4 years ago
Ether and Chi, yes its all the same!
Baguazhangster 4 years ago
Well that depends on what you mean by the word "connected." Certainly there is a historic connection and certainly there are people doing qigong that we might call animists, who call themselves daoists. And of course there are people practicing "animist" traditions who train and have always trained gongfu. My case is pretty strong, but feel free to present some counter evidence.
ogscott 4 years ago
Ant Man Bagua Boy, you have offended my family and the Shaolin Temple. You must have grown weary of living.
ogscott 4 years ago
Wow, that was FAR OUT! You are obviously feeling it. Totally wild. Super loose. Weird (in a good way)
brendanmattson 4 years ago
No, all you exposing is your disgusting, pathetic racism. You are a racist totalitarian, just like your piece of trash corrupt commie masters in china.
panthergod 4 years ago
Is this a joke?
wujimediagroup 4 years ago
Precisely the region is where Europe, Africa, and Asia meet. I am not emotionally drawn as you to order with high feelings of admiration and awe of your pride and arrogant. You are defining on the term loosely or emotionally in Geography. Middle east should contain parts of North Africa (not Africa) and South-west Asia. I have nothing to hide. Go and look up in the Atlas.
jeromeweng 4 years ago
Bagua is a sequence of pairs to form 64 possible comination. That is related to I -Ching. SO what is it that all these matters swayed to African dance or Chinese Music. Please read and find out more of Ganzhi systemc found in Bagua. Basically the Ganzhi system, composing of the Ten Celestial Stems and Twelve Terrestrial Branches. The truth is the China has a strong link to Middle East, not Africa.
jeromeweng 4 years ago
The Ganzhi or Chinese Calendar/Almanac is the oldest continuously published book on earth. I have followed it closely for about 10 years. A closer look at the Ganzhi will strongly support my case.
ogscott 4 years ago
One way to understand it is as a composite/synchronization of all the calendars used by all the different ethnic and regional religous cults of China and it's neighbors. It is a collection of all religions perceptions of time, (really!). So baguazhang is in a sense like the Calendar, a collection of all the different physiologies of trance practiced in China.
ogscott 4 years ago
Because Youtube only allows 500 words, I have a more complete answer with links at my blog "Weakness with a Twist" under the title 'the Chinese Calendar'. Thanks for a great question!
ogscott 4 years ago
I agree with the points you mentioned. Movements like Bagua is related to I-Ching and 64 movement of change. One need to visualize on these broader wisdom and philosophy to see how Pakua evolve. Motion of change in pakua is like storing of energy (body), transform (turning in circle) and open (projection of force). One question (food for thought): Where is the centre and balance for Bagua? Can any of the Afican dance be included as neijia or internal arts?
jeromeweng 4 years ago
African dance does have some vocabulary I would call "internal" and they often sing in a very internally specific way. Many movements of African dance, if done very small, (what we in neijia sometimes call hidden) would qualify as internal in my opinion. But I should add that, usually African dancer's bodies are exterally hard. This is also true of some neijia but it is not the norm. Great question/comment!
ogscott 4 years ago
I have seen Bagua practiced a lot of differnt ways for instance, I know a very good practisioner who always leans in toward the center while walking the circle. The simple answer is, the center of balance in bagua moves and there is more than one of them.
ogscott 4 years ago
Funny but interesting. You, however struck a chord here. I would have to agree with Mr. BT and Mr. DB. It's just something that people are not ready for, and or capable of listening to.
boriquastyle 4 years ago
My teaher in youth(sifu Stanley Walcott R.I.P.) would actually incorporate this idealogy into xingi/bagua. Being Latino myself,it made all the sense in the world.For ex. you cant lecture on the Hist. of salsa w/out referencing African Rythym(But, when dancing they both are 1 thing).
boriquastyle 4 years ago
***part 3 of 3*** When referencing IMA (although not referenced 99.5% of the time in schools), you do "eventually" mix your instinctively given energy/culture with what ever your body evolves into. By evolving, I mean tentative studying in IMA. Well, in my case.
boriquastyle 4 years ago
Ummm...just keep dancing man.
WarriorBoy 4 years ago
Yo ogscott all jokes a side, I have an good idea of where you was trying to go in your video. But on the real like DaiBoxer pointed out a lot people are not ready for that kind of Topic. Yo Check out African Presence in Early Asia by Runoko Rashidi. Have a lot of good information. Again you one funny cat. LOL
blacktaoist 4 years ago
What is sure, is that all civilization (I prefer talking about civilization than colors...) had always be in touch with each other and that they always bring things to each other. What is sure is that the first man, and surely the first civilisation, were from africa... But I don't like those poeple who wants to reinterpret all history from a color, black or white... It remind me bad memories...We all have two legs and two arms, that's the real point...
jagwa78 4 years ago
Very interesting analogies my friend. Definitely much truth in what you touched upon. But as you can see, alot of people just are not ready for this kind of topic. You were spot on about Africen and Chinese music.
African I-FA is suspected by many as the source of Chinese I-Ching. The principles are identical. Check Wayne Chander's book ancient future which really expounds upon this.
I must say I like your light hearted spirit. Cheers.
DaiBoxer 4 years ago
Yo, WTF? I gotta say, dudes got some serious cojones to post that and not be afraid to express his thoughts and dance moves so openly. He seems pretty limber and energetic- when he talks its almost like he's doing silk reeling.
patbirder 4 years ago
WTF, This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I can't fugure out if it is more offensive to Africans or Ba Gua people.
He gives martial arts people SF a bad name.
eyesac123 4 years ago
its offensive to the uptight.
resonance10 3 years ago
Hey man, I thought it was great entertainment. It shows a relaxed loose quality necessary for both internal arts and dancing, which is common in all cultures-- think about all the Deadheads airdancing at Greatful Dead concerts!
Dojo Rat
heyjt 4 years ago
I have removed about 10 comments concerning drug use. I was arrested in 1990 for Dancing in the Oakland Airport. The police claimed they thought I was on drugs. When are people going to learn that lazy people take drugs, the rest of us get high dancing? Every high and low you can have is already in your body, you just have to get to know yourself (fearlessly). Thanks for the suggestion about avoiding Long-Spear Duels (LSD's)in general, sharp sticks can be nasty.
ogscott 4 years ago
I give it to you northstar, you are funny as hell. I almost fall out when you started to dancing.
blacktaoist 4 years ago
haha, have you been living off hummus, how much do you weigh....lol
silatguy 4 years ago
what a joke.
knightofsilla 4 years ago
Wath are they on? Ok, there is probably some truth, we know it, but this is so "we and they"... This is not only african and chinese who have dancing or druming in common... Mankind has it... I'm white but this man is too white: too much thinking, too much reading, too much seperating "we and they"... Just do man, you do it well, so do... One dance, one fight, one love
jagwa78 4 years ago
LOL, haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa! These guys something else. What's not funny, is there probably is some truth in what he says. As sifu curry states "fighting should be like dancing." i.e. Capoeira! Peace!
KCMO2NDTWIN 4 years ago
Man you northstar cats need help. African Bagua To funny. LOL
blacktaoist 4 years ago