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  • it's incredible that you posted this!! I mean first you almost only strum the same chord for 2 minutes and also you didn't notice that the sound of your video was extremely horrible?

  • way too much treble his tone is harsh

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  • @megajames3000 Fender players love the treble.

    But it's probably the camera mic distorting... would sound thicker, bassier live of course.

  • @andros1984 i like treble too, but i think it's just too much for the diaphragm of mic

  • Mine is a '67, which are as good or better. No master volume.

  • Bass and treble on around 3 or 4 When cranked. Bright switch on or off sounds good and deep switch off. I don't like the way the deep switch sounds on mine. I don't use the bright switch much because of the trebley sound of the amp itself. I love this amp so.

  • Jumping from bass 1 to normal 1 and turning them up along with the guitar, you can get great overdrive and feedback. You can also get it from any input alone by cranking the amp and guitar.

  • HEY THATS MY OLD AMP!

  • why did you click the video? you knew what it was going to be

  • Wow... i had the exact same amp, how the **** do i get it to sound close to this without pedals???

  • @RFOAT U could turn the amp up loud on the volume and turn your treble down. Bass turned up to all and in either side (normal or bass channel). Normal channel is loudest, but has more treble. That's what I do with my telecaster anyway. It gets some feedback though not a lot, it depends on your pickup height, where you stand, and guitar volume.

  • @cameltooth1 I couldn't get it to do it - though i tried with an equalizer pedal with every frequency turned all the way down and the volume turned all the way up.. that worked!

  • Sounds fantastic.

  • this sounds so badass. dont know what all you haters are talking about

  • does the grill cloth on this bassman have an orange sparkle to it, as CTS did this which I hated, great sounding amp tho

  • great demo, bassmans sound the best ever

  • sounds like an electric fart

  • I have one of these amps, I think it's a 65! Great as a guitar amp, if you need some distortion on your bass, this amp sounds great for that as well! Mine needs some cosmetic work done on it but it still sounds great!

  • What's with all the incessant bitching? He's only doing what Hendrix would have done (and DID with his Marshalls), sounds pretty damn killer to me.

  • Rock and roll.

  • OMG! Long Live Rock And Roll. I think the sheer volume was killing the video camera. I would love to be about a 100' feet away or so and record that.

  • god, the HEADACHE after hearing one of these being pushed that hard lmao

  • Awesome

    

  • @CHESHIREMUSIC There actually is some pretty heavy clipping.

  • What about plugin a jazzbox in a triple rectifier next time ?

  • @CHESHIREMUSIC The customer is always right

  • wtf is this????

  • Yep, typical crappy sound from a '70s Bassman. Bloaty and farty like a night out at the all you can eat Mexican buffet. If it's not an Ultralinear, get in there and blackface that circuit. Early '70s model, Fender dumped the tail on the logo in '73 and there's no master volume, so there might be hope for it. What's the circuit designation? If it's an AA270 or AA371 there's still hope. It's too new to be an AB165

  • Use a proper mic when recording gems like this one. Please.

  • I'm amused at all the comments of people complaining about how he's using the amplifier. Seriously, anybody who plays guitar or let alone music should realize that people can do whatever the hell they want musically with whatever they have. Honestly, I think this sounds fantastic. Like an amazing thunder crash of brilliance and color. If you don't like it, then fine. If you have this amp, use it however you want to. But seriously, the last thing music needs is a mentality that there are rules.

  • @Aloiv i think theyre just refering to the clipping from the recording not what hes playing or his amp settings but i agree with you anyhow on the issue of rules. :)

  • @Aloiv ....well said

  • Oh yeah baby, the tone and SOUL of a Fender Bassman with a... Ibanez? wtf?

  • Now that is the sound of power tubes!! I wish the mic was not crapping out so bad though, their would be a l lot less bad comments!!!

  • This sounds excellent ,,,,cant seem to get this tone from much else....its perfect....I don't know what the other guys are talking about...this screams jack white and a lot of classic rock....amazing sound

  • thin crappt hahahahah

  • And he never lefts the tubes heat up first.

  • Inspired with this movie I bought 1971 Fender Bassman. And I tell ya... This vid doesn't lie. I plugged Gibson Flying V into it. The sound is a little less harsh (gotta get these X2N) but still mind-blowing. Ultra-fckin'-awesome! Thanks!

  • @dawebdisa you pray for corporate oppression.... got cha again. tit for tat bitch.

  • These amps are weird lol I had 70s one to. The distortion is narly maybe Jack Black would enjoy it in his special way. You can get good clean for certain types of jazz but not to be confused with the bell like jangly cleans from a super reverb or vibrolux type circuit. I've tried every OD pedal thru it and it doesn't seem to be harmonicly friendly in the valve dept for getting "the good OD tones".

    The tweed bassmans surely are a different animal.

  • THis is a nice sounding amp im gonna ge tthe 135 tommorow (if it works) i hope its a good decision but shit im willing to pay 300 bucks to get a 70s fender amp haha

  • i got a boner after hearing that badass tone

  • can you play bass on these amps

  • @hofnerbass24 Yes, the bass man was originally created as a bass amp, but it got hijacked by guitarists due to that tone. And damn, if that tone ain't purty.

  • @hofnerbass24 yes they were originally designed for bass guitar but frequently or more often played with electric guitars for some reason.

  • Woooh. That must have been quite loud!

    I've got a mid-seventies Champ and a Twin Reverb. I'm sort of scared of the latter as it is one of the 135W ones with the master volume and cathode re-bias. Try a demo with one of THOSE turned up!

    nasty.

  • .......tone.......!

  • I sure wish somebody would invent an effects pedal that sounded that good!

  • @kjmcintyrequasisnafu I can name three EHX small clone Boss ds-1 and EHX bigmuff

  • D usually works prety well after A.....

  • Keep pushing that son of a bitch over the edge! You rule!

  • Totally blew my mind... I'm don't know what to say... F***in' unbelieveable...

  • great amp. Tubes sound great

  • What does "Bridge the Channels" mean?

  • plug your guitar into the bright channel, and with a shorter cable connect input 1 of the normal to input 2 of the bright and blend the volumes

    by doing this you get a warmer tone with more drive

  • thats cool. was that meant to happen or is it just something that someone did when they were experimenting?

  • it probably was experimentation to begin with but i know that people do this on marshalls as well

    im not too sure if they intended on that being an option originally

  • Is any model Bassman a candidate for channel bridging?

  • as long as it has two inputs for a normal and bright channel, it should be good

    were you looking into a particular one?

  • You didn't get the REAL magic you get when you bridge the 2 channels together! ;)

  • but does it has its own distorcion chanel activated with a footswich or he really had to mix the 2 chanels to get that dirty sound?

  • It doesn't have a distortion channel and he DIDN'T bridge the channels- if he did, it would sound orgasmic.

  • oo i see! thanks mate! i want to get this amp for my guitar and wanted to know if it had a distortion channel! but when you bridge the channels you get a dirty sound right?

  • no. You get a dirty sound when you crank it up, REALLY REALLY loud.

  • @slashthebestone

    the distortion that your hearing is the the old fasioned kind of distortion. it's not something you get by changing to the "lead" channel, you just crank the shit out of a tube amp. pushing the input level on a tube amp will compress the output waveform, causing "clipping". you can achieve "soft-clipping" by slightly compressing that output, or get a "distorted" or "gritty" sound by really pushing those tubes. tubes can only handle so much, and distortin is what you get

  • You sell that fucking Ibanez man, please. The next time try a lil bit of a Gibson or Fender.

  • didnt know fender had it in em... learn somthing new everyday.

  • Notice how when this old battle horse is called back into active duty it answers with an emphatic, Bring It... Can I get a witness?

  • @MrBiblethmpr testify brother!

  • the cabinet appears to be a 1x15. Can anyone verify?

  • those video camera mic's werent made for recording dimed out tube amps. hurts my ears!. and to "punkeratheart", who dosent like "6 decade old tubes" i dont think they were making the kind of tubes this amp take 60 year ago. you can be sure if the original tubes were in this amp they would have put them in boxes and sold them as "NOS " for a couple thousand.

  • pete townshend tone right there

  • sick tone, my dude.

    punkeratheart, it's very possible he replaced the tubes, if you're implying that it sounds like shit because it has old tubes, you're dumb.

  • A shame you didn't really play anything, just kept striking chords awkwardly. Would have liked to hear some screaming Strat or Les Paul leads.

  • Guitars all over the background and you tested this thing with an Ibanez? Interesting, haha. Since there are no rules to rock and roll, I still think a Telecaster would sound better!

  • Can somebody who knows, tell me if all silverface bassmans will break/distort as this one? how about a bassman135 silverface???

  • i love how you can crank vintage amps all the way and they sound so good. try doing that with a peavey valve king. lol

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  • This one is my favorite.. Sounds like pure raunch!!!

  • Heres how i feel,these amps are designed to handle a certain amount of high volume,a person can push them to far,I learned this the hard way,i have a Fender Hot Rod deluxe tube amp,i had the volume up to load on the amp and guitar,it has caused the #1 high range hole have sound drop outs,i take responesablelity for this,i hate it,this good amp,.luckly i can still use the lower range #2 hole,but that leaves me with out the full scale range,Most of these of amps,they're not meant for StadiumVolume

  • why do people fight over these things?

    every amp can sound bad or good,

    its just how u use it.

    appreciate it for what it is,

    not what you want it to be.

  • Logic......on YouTube???? How refreshing.

  • Im glad you have the money to destroy that nice piece of equipment

  • oh, and also: when you're lowering everything, don't forget to turn of the bright switch. the guitar is bright as it seems, so bright off, every know to the middle, and then get your favorite tone by turning the eq slightly(remember, less is more, so it's better to lower the bass, than to push up the treble.

    i'm pretty sure when you do all of these things, your tone and overdrive will get much better and also grittier, beeffier and with less mud

  • i have the same bassman, but sounds more like acdc tone, when overdriven. the key is, lower everything a bit, lower the output of the guitar by lowering the PU's, and put the jack in number 2 in stead of no1. no2 gives more playground, and let you ajust better, because its lower. lower means in stead of breaking up at 3, then breaking up between 4 and 7. much better, much better tone, and when you push it just a little, pedals sing out!! then you'll really overdriving the amp!

  • Can you taste the saturation...rember your listening to it on your computer that is solid state also its not going to sound great on 1.5" speakers.

  • I listened through 78 dollar headphones.....the bassman is a wonderful amp, this one just has been mistreated. Most of the choppy sound is not the camera mis, but the sound of a workhorse that has hauled too many heavy loads.

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  • you do realize that the mic is clipping which is making it sound like a blender right?

  • Yeah, I can hear that too, and I HAVE in fact played through a GOOD bassman before, I'm aware of what they are, and how good they sound. But this one sounds awful, mic clipping aside, you can still hear how muddy and buzzy it sounds, like every single tube in it has gone totally microphonic, furthermore, it is breaking up in a way that sounds like a line level source plugged in to a phono input. The "crunch" is sounding more like a speaker with rips in the cone.

  • All of those problems also can come from the camera mic, oddly enough I love the horrible sound of this clip. Its so low fi its beautiful

  • Yeah well, I can see the appeal in low fi, but it is a novelty. So you may sit there and say "now that's a classic" while he's turning it up all the way, as it protests, but would you put an sm57 on it and record your major label debut?

  • Low-fi recording isn't a novelty its a full fledged producing technique. When did I say anything was a classic. If i had a major label deubt I'm fairly sure I'd pick what I thought was proper for a song, some songs might actually fair well with low-fi recording.

  • Ok, producing technique? We're not talking about analog recording consoles and reel to reel mastering, we're talking about an amp that was once very smooth and compressed at high volumes, then got treated like a disposable toy, and is now the exact opposite of smooth. Lots of people make the mistake of associating tubes with "low fidelity", but in truth, some of the clearest and cleanest hi-fi circuits ever created were built around tubes, like the old harmon kardon console systems.

  • I'm not sure what kind of a statement you're trying to make here. I never stated Hi-fi amplifiers were made without or with tubes. I simply stated that I enjoyed the sound of the video regardless of wether or not its the mic clipping or the amplifier. Hence forth me saying I would use Low-fi as a recording technique. As many many people do.

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  • your preference of sound is not a fact please stop treating it like one

  • Listen real close at 1:02. Are you trying to tell me that my opinion of that sound is in the minority? If so, then musicians these days have gone tone deaf. You're right, it is a matter of opinion, and one could express the opinion that the best distortion ever comes from putting a 1/4 lb of sand between the voice coil and the cone of your speaker, and that the best tone is that of a atrat through a PA amp, plugged in to nothing but a 10 foot tall stack of tweeters, and it's only opinion....so?

  • I am of the opinion that a muddy, buzzy, and ear-splitting sound is not a pleasing one, and if that is contrary to the popular opinion, then the makers of guitars, amps, pedals, speakers, rackmount processors, and pickups have all been on the wrong track for a very long time. The FACT is that the sound you hear out of this amp during this video is that of old tubes and an abused amplifier. That is fact. That thing probably has the original tubes in it, from 1959 or whenever it was made. FACT!

  • There is a major difference between hearing this on youtube and in person. Maybe you have heard it in person, I don't know. But you were talking about manufacturers couldn't possibly be on the wrong track for all this time?...most pro musicians will tell you they have been on the wrong track for a very long time

  • That's not what I said. I said that if this particular broken amp with it's 6 decade old tubes is what sounds the best to the majority, then the makers of the popular and expensive gear are on the wrong track. I know that crate and peavey are on the wrong track, but if people prefer the sound of this over the sound of a bassman with new tubes in it, and speakers that have not been ripped, then in fact, dr z, Carr, Bogner, Goodsell, VHT, Bad Cat, Demeter, PRS, genz benz- all on the wrong track.

  • This amp is cool, it is working its 6l6 hart out.

  • Horrible sounding amp.All mudd

  • Fender is not known for making muddy sounding amps ... I would say that Marshall could be classified as muddy in comparison with Fender.

  • i like

    1:01 - 1:02

    its so cool how he uses the whammy bar for that part i dont know why bnut im in love with this tone

  • I didn't know that could do that. Now actually play some real music with that tone!

  • play a rickenbacker with that and do some pete townshend windmills!

  • i like the ibanez Jem with a recto, but dang dude you shoulda played a Tele... I have this same rig and i use an 04 USA Tele and it sounds so much better. VHOBSESSED78 the guitar does kinda matter, if it didnt, no one would spend thousands of dollars on guitars, we would all play B.C. Rich Warlocks...

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  • It's just a tone demo. I wish more demo vids would cut out the chatter and wanking around and just let chords ring out like this.

  • You guys are, to put it bluntly, a bunch of fucking pricks.

    What the hell does it matter what guitar he's playing through it?

    God, you lot are so fucking picky.

  • No shit? I've been a musician for nearly a decade.

    The fact of the matter is, is that if he had not posted on the side that he was playing an Ibanez JEM with a DiMarzio X2N, nobody would have known the difference.

  • pick a strato!

    why to make a movie about an old amp with a guitar like ibanez??

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  • Nice riffs!

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  • what riffs?

  • Dude, please go to the wall and get a REAL guitar

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  • I think that this guy is doing a good thing. How often can you open a webpage and find a dozen midpower vintage tube amplifiers distorting on 10? So what if he likes to play an Ibanez guitar. I've seen many pictures of Junior Kimbrough playing Kramers, Ibanezs and Tiescos. And he isnt playing the madison square garden here, its a DEMO. The point of a DEMO is to listen to the tone of his rig. I personally like this lo-fi fuzz/nasty sound. Good job Cheshire music.

  • Ibanez guitars fucking suck.......so does CBS era fender products.....CBS ruined that company...... so glad CBS does not own fender anymore.

  • These later bassmans were not meant for guitar at all...its the early ones that sound amazing with a guitar

  • Something is definitely wrong here. Either the guitar is out of tune or the tubes are unbiased.

  • well I'm sick of hearing typical blues demos through these amps! for once, a no bull shit straight to the point, exposing the balls of the amp and with out pedals turding up the tone.

    it's a fine demo of a nice amp the way they were meant to be played.

  • why does he always play this ugly guitar ??

    not a perfect combination with fender amps ...

  • One of thebest ampls ever made! SOrry to tel you, but Ibanez Guitars don't even come close to Vintage Fender Telecasters and Stratocasters...

  • Wasn't the first Marshall based on the old Fender Bassman?

  • Yes, the circuits are VERY similar except for the position of the tubes. The two triodes of the first preamp tube of the marshall are individually biased which allowed Marshall to use a different bypass cap around the cathode-bias resister of one side to create the chrunchy bright channel. The other side used a 320uF cap for a fuller warmer sound.

  • Marshall used the layout from the 4x10 tweed from the 50's , not the same circuit as this cool siverface. only share the name. very different amps. All seem great in their own ways.

  • oooooooooozing

    2:00 -on

    love it this kinda stuff helps motivate me sometimes

    when i need to get my ASS off the couch and to the amp

  • man i wish fender would reissue these. i know they do a real nice reissue of the '59 combo, but itd be great to see the head get reished.

    how many watts is that by the way?

  • ill bet your neighbours love that monster huh? man even with youtube quality that things got a great sound

  • too bad the camera is clipping so badly... great amp though

  • I am glad you put this up, I have a chance to buy the same amp for $450 with a 15" cab and I wanted to know how this thing would sound cranked.

  • Maybe it's just my computer speakers but the bass sounded flabby to me, esp. when you really hit it at about 1:01 and 2:05. This could indicate the amp needs a cap job or that neck humbucker is too much for he Utah speakers.

  • i think the amp was working properly. the x2n was just too much for the poor thing to swallow. especially when being "played" like that.

    this amp is now in a new york studio pumping out the jam.

  • Sounds like pure magic. Yeah, if you do these amptests again, you could use 2-3 guitars, your jem and maybe some vintage LP´s and Strats. Would be fun to hear how the amp reacts. This is nice too, I dont know anything about the jem, but it sounds pretty good and musical to me. Vai stuff right?

  • why oh why did you choose an ibanez guitar to play through the bassman? fair enough its a decent guitar im not being a nob. But please will you demo the same amp with a rickenbacker or a casino or a gibson 330, gretsch etc etc. I want to hear an early 60's garage tone. cheers for the video!

  • i guess im the "nob" here. we tested 12 or 15 amps that night. the jem is my own guitar. i just wanted a beefy humbucker to test these things with. if we have some time in the future i will film some more of these tube rockets with a more "politically correct" guitar and pay more attention to what i am playing. we did these vids on a "whim". i didnt expect that they would be so popular and controversial. thanks.

  • NO! I say thanks for using a "non-standard" guitar for the test. There are too many amp reviews and other gear vids out there using the same old line-up of Fender Strat into some vintage amp to get the same old sounds that everyone knows. Using the Jem to test the old Bassman is perfect for showing all the young shredders and nu-metal downtuners out there that they don't need "The 8 channel Recto-Blast" amps to get a good sound. Good job, I say.

  • Oh No! I *want* them to buy the "The 8 channel Recto-Blast" crap so they're not competing for the older, classic gear! ;-)

    "Go away little shredder, this stuff sounds awful, you need a $5K "8 channel Recto-Blast"!"

    (I am joking, of course...)

  • I call them Rectumizers! ROFLMAO!

  • I call them a waste of money and technology -- let somebody else buy them -- I'd rather have an old warrior like this one...it just oozes mojo! ;-)

  • agreed. i can't stand the sound of these new ultra high tech so called "rock-wonders" that cost 10k for a digital sounding piece of crap with 5 channels for distortion, and an "off" switch if you want clean. this thing has tone just as ballsy, and it was built years before heavy metal as you think of it today was even known. what a fan fuckin tastic amp. if you can't shred on this thing (although it would be a sin to do it) then its not the amp, its YOU.

  • am precious.

    Klien tone of the base man spoils.(^○^)/

  • He must have no neighbors!

  • i wanna buy this amp but i was told jimi hendrix use to play his plexi amp at 10 and his amps didn't last very long, i don't wanna pay a couple of grand just to ruin my hearing and replace the speakers and tubes every 6 month just to get that bassman distortion. not worth it but these amps are top quality, these days you have to replace everything on a amp just to get it to work right.

  • i have a 73 bassman Ten that i ran into for 60 bucks, got it fixed up to original condition for 145. A great deal for how nice it sounds, great clean amp. A crapload of headroom, I can't even get close to maxing this thing out, every one was complaining of me making the house shake(at 5 on the master). Loud, yes! It doesn't like distortion pedals much (grunge), but I'm sure an overdrive pedal would do just fine.

  • great sound!!! man...i love the bassman :D

  • great sound that bassman ..see my collection, you can look me up at youtube, search for misterbassman..

  • how do you get it to sound like that???

  • crank it

  • haha enough said lol

  • it sounds like badfinger's pete ham's tone at the very start

  • a blast from the past. badfinger. great band. apple records. i remember finding out about you.

  • Original tubes? then its been nearly un-used? I own one too, a '68 and its freakin loud :p

  • Why on earth having all those guitars hanging on the wall you choose an Ibanez with a X2N??? I'd like to hear the same with a Jazzmaster or a Rick, great amp btw. Have you modded it?

  • i love my jem and the x2n just sweetens the deal.(for me)if i ever put some of these vids together again i will try different guitars and riff a bit more. no mods on this one. even the original fender tubes. scary loud. i mean loud. did i say loud?

  • Finally someone cranked this bad boy.

  • People forget these are BASS amps! That's what they were made for. I perfer the Twin amp, but this has more of a mellow sound. I don't like all that break-up either. Thanks for the demo.

  • good point. i think this thing weighs in at 60 watts. wicked loud. i mean wicked loud. enough power to carry a bass guitar with a moderate drummer and still give a bit of warmth. but as a guitar amp without some form of attinuation (spelling) too much power. my keyboard player would shoot me if i showed up at a gig with this machine. good coment. thanks.

  • They were made for bass but actually sound better on guitar, thats why they became so famous.

  • Sounds like Joe Walsh.

  • i love joe walsh

  • thats the amp that the first marshall's were based off of.

  • not really, the first Marshalls were based off the '59 tweed bassman.

    I have a Marshall JTM45, it sounds nothing like this.

  • I blow a jcm900 no coming back.

  • marshalls rock!

  • You can always hope it's the mics distorting really bad or something

  • no thats not the "mics" thats tubes.

  • Why does it sound so harsh?

  • do you mean distortion?

  • Yeah I mean the distortion

  • when you push a vacuum tube past it operating voltage it distorts. when you push a speaker too far it distorts as well. put them both together and this is what you end up with. believe it or not it is quite desirable.