The Europeans share the same instruments too but they never fight about to which people "the guitar" belongs. Each part of the world share similar music and instruments. It is normal. For example there is the "latino" world with the same music and the "orient" world with similar music. So in the end it is meaningless that turks, kurds and persians argue about music.
This is a famous turkish folk song. Kurds are a part of Turkey, so it is normal kurdish music sounds like turkish. One should not forget that kurds mainly use turkish instruments in their music, such as the baglama. But it is kind of wrong to say this or that instrument is "turkish(anatolian)", "kurdish" or "arabic", since we share the same instruments and we have all played them for thousand of years.
It is not about religion, it is not about anything, this is just PURE ART OF MUSIC. Just came back from Marmaris and love arabic music. I am Polish and please stop racism directed towards any nation, enjoy the music.
Arabic music in Marmaris??? We you mean that Turks are Arabs? or is there a misinterpretation?
Well you have been to Marmaris and still think that Turks are Arabs? Turks aren't Arabic, Turks are Turkish and play Turkish music. Arabs are Arabic and play Arabic music. I have nothing against Arabs, but we are not Arabs. THANK YOU.
Everyone shut up about the Kurdish people! Not a single group of people has all good people or all bad people! Think about that! Most importantly, sit back and enjoy the music and STOP HATING EACH OTHER!! To all the Turkish people on here fighting with the Kurdish people in a rude manner, I'm ashamed to be related to you guys. I judge a person by there character, not by their blood!
@kespec .. yazdigim sozlerde hangi yanlisi buldunda turkce ogren diyorsun embesil cocuk.. avrupada dogup buyudugu icin sînîrlî turkcesi olan bir ki$i olabilirim, ama hic degilse senin gibi embesilce yorum yapan biri degilim .. o ''lan'' lafi da sana girsin ..
bak arkadaşım burda bana avrupalıyım muhabbeti yapma, toplumsal & etnik sorunlara ineceksen ilk önce bu argümanlara uygun bir Türkçe hakimiyetine sahip olacaksın. yoksa siktir git dediğinden bir şey anlaşılmıyor
tek anladığım senin bir milliyetçi kürt öküzü olduğun, ve utanmadan Türkiye Türkünün, "kürt kültürünü" çaldığını iddia edebilecek kadar yaban hayvanı olduğundur. Ülkenin anasını sikip avrupaya kaçtınız şimdi de orda millete Türküm deyip de, Türkiye'nin imajını sik...
ekşi sözlük özentisi yaban öküzü oralarda takılmakla aydın olunmuyor, avrupa'dayım demekle adam olunmuyor. kürtlerin kültür çaldığı açık seçik ortada arayan bulur ama kimse dile getiremez çünkü getirirsen ırkçı olursun.
uzak durun şu ülkeden siktirin gidin danirmakalarda yaşayın daha temiz oluyor buraları, cahil öküz sürüsünü görmeyince daha güzel uyanıyorum güne.
@kespec Kürt soyu nerden gelmiş kültürü neye dayanır bana bir anlat gözünü seveyim. Türklerden niye nefret ediyorsun bana bunu anlat. Yıllarca Osmanlının Türkiyenin ekmeğini yediniz Türk vatandaşından farklı muamele görmediniz nedir derdiniz? Türk milleti şevkatlidir duyguludur. İspanya gibi Fransa gibi Amerika gibi Sırplar gibi olmadığmız için Kürt halkını bağrımıza basımışız kardeşimiz gibi görmüşüz dilimiz kültürümüz bile ayrışmaz olmuş. Bizde bilirdik bu saydığım ülkeler gibi soykırımyapmayı
These kinds of musics are the culture of the members of a religious group that reveres Ali.The instruments and the lyrics are Turkish.Their prayers,poems are all Turkish.This is not a music of Kurdish and Sunnis
@spotlight33 you might want to do some more research on this type of music, and look the name (Mar Ephrem the syrian )should help you out. you will learn where your music came from. :)
Yeah, and they don't have to wear stuff on their heads, wearing T-shirts, jeans or dress, and pretty sharp girls too. You can talk to them and they look you straight in the eye.
Impressive, that you actually think we dont allow our women to sing. Turkish women had even earlier rights to vote than some European countries like Belgium thanks to Ataturk's reforms.
@Turkish2023 I dont know about the reforms, I just read some of Bartok´s essays on turkish folk music and according to his researches, women weren´t allowed to sing, men considered it "not right" for a woman to sing. he wrote it in the first half of the last century I dont know much about modern turkey. I also don´t know why the hell should turkey enter the european union.
I dont know who thus Bartok guy is but be rational, what happened in first half of the last century is not relevant in 2010. If Turkish women had more rights and got the right to vote earlier then some European countries, I dont see why they shouldt had the right to sing.
@sspersian "tanbur" is a different instrument than "bağlama".I'm sure because we play both tanbur and bağlama here.Bağlama belongs to Turkish Turkmen (especially Alevi one's) people.Bağlama is played also in Iran because There is 30 million Turkish living in Iran today.Clothes are not traditional here.
The instrument he is playing, that looks like a guitarr is actually from persians. The persians created it probely during Sassanid era. In persian we call it "Tanbur".
It's called Yarali Ceylan by Arzu off the album Ceylanim. It's at the beginning and end of the vid, but don't worry, I had trouble figuring that out as well. Effin beautiful
safkan Türk halk müziği bu, kürt mürt diyenlerin kulaklarını temizlemek lazım. şimdi de Türkülerimizi mi çalmaya kalkıyorsunuz lan?? bu alevi-bektaşi türküsüdür, yani Türk!
@turkcukizi alevilerin arasinda cok benligini kaybetmis kurtler var, neyse hepsi insan sonunda... that's why i have no religion and call myself human...
Many times cultures mix in many ways and then it is very difficult to distinguish whose culture is whose. I dont care where this came from. It came from over in that region and I say fuck whatever possessed those morons to argue about who is better. You want to know the truth? Humans are not worthy of this planet and we are all horrible. So when the aliens come here dont expect to get a fruit basket. I would expect war to break out. Fuck us humans and our ridiculous quarrels.
can u people please stop arguing about nothing? no one's culture is better than another's just because one uses wood and the other uses sheep guts. perhaps one is the more ingenious for making use of something in a less obvious way than the wood or metal. anyway, no culture is better than another in any way other than how humanely it treats human life. and in that respect we are all pretty equal, so SHUTUP!
Why, oh why have this ridiculous argument about national origins when you have a beautiful piece of music playing? Are you people deaf? FUCK nationalism. Enjoy life already. m
Yeah? It's also related to a range of Iranian instruments, the tar being one of them. Like I said before, I'm not stating it belongs to any specific culture, thus I am against the assertion that it is Turkish. It's the synthesis of many different instruments belonging to many different cultural groups, and it developed in Anatolia not at the hands of the Turks alone, otherwise they'd be playing it in Central Asia, from whence the Turks came.
You are a fool of the highest calibre. Kurdish history and culture has been documented and recorded since the first millenium B.C. We can discuss that later, if you wish, because you seem to be completely ignorant of those facts.
The tar is not Azerbaijani, it is Iranian. Azeri culture is "Turkic" built on an Iranian stratum. The Azeri people are genetically Iranian, this is also a documented fact. The only thing Turkic about them is their language, which still contains a high Persian influence
Just because you don't KNOW, doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST. You're a fucking fool, you and your countrymen. You, the descendant of barbaric nomads who lived off the back of horses and stole the culture and civilisation of the people they pillaged and conquered, tell me that the Hurrians, the Medes, and our glorious Aryan heritage amount to nothing, but your horse milking Asian brethren who appropriated Arabic, Kurdish, Greek and Persian cultures do? Don't make me fucking laugh.
Yeah, that kinda doesn't mean anything dude, haha. I'd like you to go to Central Asia and find me anything similar to the music of Anatolia, or indeed an instrument similar to the saz.
It's called turku because that's what Turks call it. Notice how neither Kurds, Greeks nor Armenians use that word, yet have similar music, and are indigenous cultures? D'you notice that? Funny, right?
This is Anatolian music because it is common to all the cultures of Anatolia, Turks included.
oh, and I forgot to mention... the girl singing this song is Arzu Sahin, who happens to be Kurdish! ahaha
It's a Kurdish song translated to Turkish to appeal to a wider audience, it's very simple. But I maintain that it is an Anatolian style song, and not just Kurdish or Turkish.
as i stated kurdish musical culture is obvious imitation of turkish folk music, you cant simply deny it.
kurds loaned it, wrapped it, and sold it back to its original owners.
as the dominant culture has been turkish(with contrubitons of persian,arabic and french culture) appx thousand years over anatolia your statement remains 'unconvincing'..
and i cant really believe it how you defend your 'information', at least go check google.. and see what the heck baglama is and come from.
Show me proof that Kurdish culture is an "imitation" of Turkish culture. Turkic culture of Central Asia is nothing like Turkish culture of Anatolia. This is because not only is Turkish culture an amalgamation of native Anatolian cultures, but modern Turkish people are descendants of native Anatolians, with a very small interspersion of Turkic blood. A few hundred thousand Turks invaded Anatolia, when it was populated by millions.
we are not a imitation of kurds, because we have the saz, and look to central-asia like türkmenistan ore somtehing and oure music is the same! YOU LİE! the kurds learn the saz from the Turks!
@Sellos23 No it isn't Saz is just a smaller version of tanbour and tanbour is another model from panbur, an instrument from hurrians, which existed long before the word "turk" came up.
@Sellos23 The Kurds? Who you talking about particularly? Seems like your the one who expert, so please teach us about Turkish and Kurdish civilizations! oh yes please
My "harmony of cultures bullcrap" is the most accurate, and accepted explanation for the evolution of the Saz. The Saz neither looks nor sounds like any Central Asian, horse hair and sheep gut bullshit instrument you seem to be comparing it to. It evolved as a result of the synthesis of different instruments used by different cultures. It's not a Turkic instrument, just as any scientific Latin neologism isn't a Roman invention. You don't know your shit mate, you proved that.
you re citing your own 'knowledge' as reference to justify your statement.. i do not care for possiblities, there is a written history that tells the origin of baglama, go read kasgarlı mahmut's writings and his records for further information..
i do not have time to enlight ignorants such as you, grow some brain and before calling someone ignorant, you should disclaim him with 'valuable' refrences.
about myth of kurdish culture with 5000 years of evolution thing, i just laugh..
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The only myth is the myth of Turkish culture. Turkish culture is nomads living in yurts made of animal skins. Everything in Turkey now is a result of the appropriation of Greek and Middle Eastern cultures. Turks HAVE NO CULTURE of their own.
But you are using latin alphabet , Why ? Brother , Turkish language have 28 difrent voices.. And Arabic alphabeth is not enough for this.Our language dont have "long vowel" .. But arabic have.Our language dont have "back unvoiced" .. But arabic have.. Then my people were not knowing to write.They were reading.. But they could not write before Ataturk !
In my Country , A lot of children start to learn arabic alphabet when they were 7 years old.On the other hand , Kuran is arabic.We need to learn if we want to read :) But it doesnt mean "we must write with arabic".. It doesnt mean "we must use arabic alphabet in turkish language" :)
Exactly, what was the point in changing the national alphabet from Arabic letters to something else, when everyone was Muslim? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question bro.
Because round about ten percent actually understood the ottoman turkish. Atatürk gave turkey a better alfabet. Arabic script is useless to write Turkish
Dil Türkçe Daha neyin tartışması bu ya ? language is Turkish. Turkish folk songs that!!
TurkishWomens 1 month ago
Turkmen.
PrensHaru 1 month ago
The Europeans share the same instruments too but they never fight about to which people "the guitar" belongs. Each part of the world share similar music and instruments. It is normal. For example there is the "latino" world with the same music and the "orient" world with similar music. So in the end it is meaningless that turks, kurds and persians argue about music.
ezber1 4 months ago
This is a famous turkish folk song. Kurds are a part of Turkey, so it is normal kurdish music sounds like turkish. One should not forget that kurds mainly use turkish instruments in their music, such as the baglama. But it is kind of wrong to say this or that instrument is "turkish(anatolian)", "kurdish" or "arabic", since we share the same instruments and we have all played them for thousand of years.
ezber1 4 months ago
Böylesine boktan bir şarkıyla temsil edilmek iğrenç olurdu herhalde. Tam kürtlere laik bir şarkı olmuş.
sametturkmen87 5 months ago
It is not about religion, it is not about anything, this is just PURE ART OF MUSIC. Just came back from Marmaris and love arabic music. I am Polish and please stop racism directed towards any nation, enjoy the music.
blacksteen 6 months ago 3
@blacksteen
Arabic music in Marmaris??? We you mean that Turks are Arabs? or is there a misinterpretation?
Well you have been to Marmaris and still think that Turks are Arabs? Turks aren't Arabic, Turks are Turkish and play Turkish music. Arabs are Arabic and play Arabic music. I have nothing against Arabs, but we are not Arabs. THANK YOU.
DutchTurkish 5 months ago
I 'm a person that live in Zimbambe. And I 'm two years old. And I loved this song, yeeey !!
MBloodline6 6 months ago
I love how the music (very beautiful) and the video footage work together. <3
VTSPQR 7 months ago
Greeting from Greece!nice music
vitaliwths 7 months ago
Guys try Can Atilla not folk but I bet you'll love it !
ergunayral91 8 months ago
Turkey is so cool. What's a Kurd? I bet they're cool too if they play this sort of awesome stuff. Love, America (-:
starspangledpants 8 months ago
Everyone shut up about the Kurdish people! Not a single group of people has all good people or all bad people! Think about that! Most importantly, sit back and enjoy the music and STOP HATING EACH OTHER!! To all the Turkish people on here fighting with the Kurdish people in a rude manner, I'm ashamed to be related to you guys. I judge a person by there character, not by their blood!
WyvernhailQueen 9 months ago 3
good turkish muzik
GRINGOBLA 9 months ago
shut up u racist bastards.. music is great. keep the ethnic problems away.
Reelaxeed 10 months ago
Who is this artist?
username14657 1 year ago
Please someone give me the lyrics in turkish ! Love Turkye !
BarackLaraque17i 1 year ago
Ben bu müziği seviyorum.
Mattlarrivee 1 year ago
yashasin Turkiye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
111oktay 1 year ago
Turkish music is number 1
Greetings to Turks
ArabJinn 1 year ago
TURK FOLK MUSİC.
Dogu87es 1 year ago
kespec senin sopun belli olmayabilir ama bu ensturumanın ki bellidir!
şarkının da kökü belli alevi türküsüdür adı bile türkü öküzzz...
Dogu87es 1 year ago
ne zamadan beri kürt şarkıları türkçe söylenmeye başladı itin dölü, başkalarının kültürünü çalacağınıza kendi kültürünüzü yaratın gavur devşirmeleri
kespec 1 year ago
@kespec .. ne zamandin beri saz ve bu türkü, kürt külturundendir? kim kimin kültürünu caliyor? neyse niyetimizi bozmiyalim, türk kürt kardestir..
FreshPrinceAzizi 1 year ago
@FreshPrinceAzizi
kes lan önce türkçe öğren
kespec 1 year ago
@kespec .. yazdigim sozlerde hangi yanlisi buldunda turkce ogren diyorsun embesil cocuk.. avrupada dogup buyudugu icin sînîrlî turkcesi olan bir ki$i olabilirim, ama hic degilse senin gibi embesilce yorum yapan biri degilim .. o ''lan'' lafi da sana girsin ..
FreshPrinceAzizi 1 year ago
@FreshPrinceAzizi
bak arkadaşım burda bana avrupalıyım muhabbeti yapma, toplumsal & etnik sorunlara ineceksen ilk önce bu argümanlara uygun bir Türkçe hakimiyetine sahip olacaksın. yoksa siktir git dediğinden bir şey anlaşılmıyor
tek anladığım senin bir milliyetçi kürt öküzü olduğun, ve utanmadan Türkiye Türkünün, "kürt kültürünü" çaldığını iddia edebilecek kadar yaban hayvanı olduğundur. Ülkenin anasını sikip avrupaya kaçtınız şimdi de orda millete Türküm deyip de, Türkiye'nin imajını sik...
kespec 1 year ago
@FreshPrinceAzizi
ekşi sözlük özentisi yaban öküzü oralarda takılmakla aydın olunmuyor, avrupa'dayım demekle adam olunmuyor. kürtlerin kültür çaldığı açık seçik ortada arayan bulur ama kimse dile getiremez çünkü getirirsen ırkçı olursun.
uzak durun şu ülkeden siktirin gidin danirmakalarda yaşayın daha temiz oluyor buraları, cahil öküz sürüsünü görmeyince daha güzel uyanıyorum güne.
kespec 1 year ago
@kespec Sonuna kadar haklısın ama nefretle bir yere varamayız.
Morningstaric 1 year ago
@kespec Siz ikinizde kafayımı yediniz . Yorumları okudum gülesim geldi ! Herkes aynı şeyi savunuyor ama tartışıyorsunuz .
Tengri89 1 year ago
@FreshPrinceAzizi üsttü oku
Tengri89 1 year ago
@kespec Kürt soyu nerden gelmiş kültürü neye dayanır bana bir anlat gözünü seveyim. Türklerden niye nefret ediyorsun bana bunu anlat. Yıllarca Osmanlının Türkiyenin ekmeğini yediniz Türk vatandaşından farklı muamele görmediniz nedir derdiniz? Türk milleti şevkatlidir duyguludur. İspanya gibi Fransa gibi Amerika gibi Sırplar gibi olmadığmız için Kürt halkını bağrımıza basımışız kardeşimiz gibi görmüşüz dilimiz kültürümüz bile ayrışmaz olmuş. Bizde bilirdik bu saydığım ülkeler gibi soykırımyapmayı
Morningstaric 1 year ago
Excelent song , çok güzel sarki , muhtesem sarkiçi !!
smyle0123 1 year ago
i dont understand a word from this, but the music is just wonderful
petra102 1 year ago
These kinds of musics are the culture of the members of a religious group that reveres Ali.The instruments and the lyrics are Turkish.Their prayers,poems are all Turkish.This is not a music of Kurdish and Sunnis
spotlight33 1 year ago
@spotlight33 you might want to do some more research on this type of music, and look the name (Mar Ephrem the syrian )should help you out. you will learn where your music came from. :)
odi27 1 year ago
All over the workd there were exchanges. This discussion is not completely serious and honest. I like Halk Music
plop888 1 year ago
The vid + music = A1
ercheksargo 1 year ago
impressive, they actually allow women to sing there
ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus women can sing here without any problems :)
bilgentolis 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus
Yeah, and they don't have to wear stuff on their heads, wearing T-shirts, jeans or dress, and pretty sharp girls too. You can talk to them and they look you straight in the eye.
ercheksargo 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus
Impressive, that you actually think we dont allow our women to sing. Turkish women had even earlier rights to vote than some European countries like Belgium thanks to Ataturk's reforms.
Turkish2023 1 year ago
@Turkish2023 I dont know about the reforms, I just read some of Bartok´s essays on turkish folk music and according to his researches, women weren´t allowed to sing, men considered it "not right" for a woman to sing. he wrote it in the first half of the last century I dont know much about modern turkey. I also don´t know why the hell should turkey enter the european union.
ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus
I dont know who thus Bartok guy is but be rational, what happened in first half of the last century is not relevant in 2010. If Turkish women had more rights and got the right to vote earlier then some European countries, I dont see why they shouldt had the right to sing.
Turkish2023 1 year ago
@Turkish2023 Bartók is a famous hungarian man. google is your friend.
Aiolosz 1 year ago
instruments persian,clothes kurdish .i wonder turk if have any music,!!!!1
sspersian 1 year ago
@sspersian "tanbur" is a different instrument than "bağlama".I'm sure because we play both tanbur and bağlama here.Bağlama belongs to Turkish Turkmen (especially Alevi one's) people.Bağlama is played also in Iran because There is 30 million Turkish living in Iran today.Clothes are not traditional here.
Thegulugulu33 1 year ago
@sspersian
What Persian music from Mongolia? Please bitch we've had this music since we were fighting China under the Gokturk flag.
devanizmo 1 year ago
The instrument he is playing, that looks like a guitarr is actually from persians. The persians created it probely during Sassanid era. In persian we call it "Tanbur".
sorrypapawxz 1 year ago
Song is nice, please upload in a better quality if possisble!
YiannisThiakos 1 year ago
nevermind lol
Lokum1923 2 years ago
sarkisi adisi ne?
Lokum1923 2 years ago
Şu muzik ilaç bize.
Tengri89 2 years ago
This is so beautiful! Greetings from America!
What is the name of this song?
username14657 2 years ago
It's called Yarali Ceylan by Arzu off the album Ceylanim. It's at the beginning and end of the vid, but don't worry, I had trouble figuring that out as well. Effin beautiful
lavinder11 2 years ago
beautifull :D
justnobody5192 2 years ago 3
wow! very good!
acerb45666555 2 years ago 3
safkan Türk halk müziği bu, kürt mürt diyenlerin kulaklarını temizlemek lazım. şimdi de Türkülerimizi mi çalmaya kalkıyorsunuz lan?? bu alevi-bektaşi türküsüdür, yani Türk!
turkcukizi 2 years ago 9
@turkcukizi alevilerin arasinda cok benligini kaybetmis kurtler var, neyse hepsi insan sonunda... that's why i have no religion and call myself human...
vrietmet 6 months ago
ulan nerede muzik dinlesem politika var, olan ne zaman adam olacaksiniz emi?
vrietmet 6 months ago
yeterrrrr beeeeeeee!
vrietmet 6 months ago
Ihr seid doch alle Krank Kinder!!!!!!!!!hahah
Bu GERCEK TÜrk müzigidir!!!!!!!!
SIzce TürK MÜzigi nedir..onu bilmiyorsunuz!
sheyda90 2 years ago
Yani bencede bu şarkı tabii ki Türk muzigi değil, Ceylan'ın yandan yemişi.. müzikte berbat.
TereyagliCinSeddi 2 years ago
ulan ne o.ç ları var bu türkünnün kürtce olduğunu söylüyorlar
Dogu87es 2 years ago 2
Turk folk music
Dogu87es 2 years ago
+ cimbal "istambul'' in coda...or "zildjian"///
exerg101 2 years ago
It is Turkish bektashi folk song.
kuruvaziyer 2 years ago
tam mal lan where is that kurdish ??? maybe arzu the bitch is kurdish but the language and the song ist 100 % turkish
shahrukhsezer 2 years ago
Many times cultures mix in many ways and then it is very difficult to distinguish whose culture is whose. I dont care where this came from. It came from over in that region and I say fuck whatever possessed those morons to argue about who is better. You want to know the truth? Humans are not worthy of this planet and we are all horrible. So when the aliens come here dont expect to get a fruit basket. I would expect war to break out. Fuck us humans and our ridiculous quarrels.
ImAllergicToStupids 2 years ago 3
don't confuse Kurdish with Turkish!!!!
nezir1995nezir 2 years ago 2
can u people please stop arguing about nothing? no one's culture is better than another's just because one uses wood and the other uses sheep guts. perhaps one is the more ingenious for making use of something in a less obvious way than the wood or metal. anyway, no culture is better than another in any way other than how humanely it treats human life. and in that respect we are all pretty equal, so SHUTUP!
aslihan567 2 years ago
Why, oh why have this ridiculous argument about national origins when you have a beautiful piece of music playing? Are you people deaf? FUCK nationalism. Enjoy life already. m
PrinceTheRipperBel7 2 years ago
Yeah, I really think this should be called Anatolian folk music, not Turkish. The saz isn't even a Turkish instrument.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
It is TURKISH!! Cappito!
jelijeli1905 2 years ago
lots of laugh! what? isnt saz a turkish instrument?
baglama or saz, is a member of traditional stringed instruments which is the main instrument of all turkic folk music
here the family of central asian string-instruments:
baglama turkish
kopuz turkish
saz turkish
tar azerbaijani turk
dombra kazakhtar turk
bağlama is the most developed member of this family.
please do not state things you dont know anything about it..
kespec 2 years ago
Yeah? It's also related to a range of Iranian instruments, the tar being one of them. Like I said before, I'm not stating it belongs to any specific culture, thus I am against the assertion that it is Turkish. It's the synthesis of many different instruments belonging to many different cultural groups, and it developed in Anatolia not at the hands of the Turks alone, otherwise they'd be playing it in Central Asia, from whence the Turks came.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
you know nothing about history of saz&tar and happen to act the cool guy who knows everything...
calling saz is not turkish shows your ignorance.. still behind your misleading information..
saz is a developed version of dombra which is played asia; kazakhstan, nogay ethnics and ozbekistan
tar is not an iranian instrument infact its azerbaijani
saz is literally known as baglama is a turkic word, cool isnt it?
there is no sign of kurdish culture recorded before 19th century..
kespec 2 years ago
You are a fool of the highest calibre. Kurdish history and culture has been documented and recorded since the first millenium B.C. We can discuss that later, if you wish, because you seem to be completely ignorant of those facts.
The tar is not Azerbaijani, it is Iranian. Azeri culture is "Turkic" built on an Iranian stratum. The Azeri people are genetically Iranian, this is also a documented fact. The only thing Turkic about them is their language, which still contains a high Persian influence
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
there is nothing to discuss.. 5000 years of existence and no sign of own civilization.. i just laugh at that
and do not generalize, this reveals your ignorance.. i am not a descendant of so-called anatolian people cuz i am a turkman
you live in your own world dude and dont wait for any further reply you have proven your worthiness
kespec 2 years ago
Just because you don't KNOW, doesn't mean it doesn't EXIST. You're a fucking fool, you and your countrymen. You, the descendant of barbaric nomads who lived off the back of horses and stole the culture and civilisation of the people they pillaged and conquered, tell me that the Hurrians, the Medes, and our glorious Aryan heritage amount to nothing, but your horse milking Asian brethren who appropriated Arabic, Kurdish, Greek and Persian cultures do? Don't make me fucking laugh.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
lol really i was waiting for you to write its a traditional kurdish instrument
really dude get your facts straight
kurdish music: imitation of anatolian-turkish music which is called TURKU, you see even its name is TURK how you claim its not turkish? rofl
kespec 2 years ago
Yeah, that kinda doesn't mean anything dude, haha. I'd like you to go to Central Asia and find me anything similar to the music of Anatolia, or indeed an instrument similar to the saz.
It's called turku because that's what Turks call it. Notice how neither Kurds, Greeks nor Armenians use that word, yet have similar music, and are indigenous cultures? D'you notice that? Funny, right?
This is Anatolian music because it is common to all the cultures of Anatolia, Turks included.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
oh, and I forgot to mention... the girl singing this song is Arzu Sahin, who happens to be Kurdish! ahaha
It's a Kurdish song translated to Turkish to appeal to a wider audience, it's very simple. But I maintain that it is an Anatolian style song, and not just Kurdish or Turkish.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
as i stated kurdish musical culture is obvious imitation of turkish folk music, you cant simply deny it.
kurds loaned it, wrapped it, and sold it back to its original owners.
as the dominant culture has been turkish(with contrubitons of persian,arabic and french culture) appx thousand years over anatolia your statement remains 'unconvincing'..
and i cant really believe it how you defend your 'information', at least go check google.. and see what the heck baglama is and come from.
kespec 2 years ago
Show me proof that Kurdish culture is an "imitation" of Turkish culture. Turkic culture of Central Asia is nothing like Turkish culture of Anatolia. This is because not only is Turkish culture an amalgamation of native Anatolian cultures, but modern Turkish people are descendants of native Anatolians, with a very small interspersion of Turkic blood. A few hundred thousand Turks invaded Anatolia, when it was populated by millions.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
we are not a imitation of kurds, because we have the saz, and look to central-asia like türkmenistan ore somtehing and oure music is the same! YOU LİE! the kurds learn the saz from the Turks!
turkcukizi 2 years ago 3
Saz is a Turkish instrument even played in Turks in Central Asia. ahah what does the Kurds have? please.
Sellos23 2 years ago 21
@Sellos23 No it isn't Saz is just a smaller version of tanbour and tanbour is another model from panbur, an instrument from hurrians, which existed long before the word "turk" came up.
KurdoFighter 1 year ago
@Sellos23 YOUR LAND! HA!
NinaBella93 1 year ago
@Sellos23 The Kurds? Who you talking about particularly? Seems like your the one who expert, so please teach us about Turkish and Kurdish civilizations! oh yes please
RealHumanist 3 months ago
and we are talkin about the instrument's origin; not how its used in diffrent cultures..
i dont understand why you deny the fact that saz is actually a synthesis of centiral asian turkic instruments..
its a fact , all your harmony of cultures bullcrap doesnt change this fact..
and accept it your so called culture relies on a turkish instrument.
stating misleading information like its a fact :
'its not even turkish'
without citing any references
is just a mark of lack of knowledge
kespec 2 years ago
My "harmony of cultures bullcrap" is the most accurate, and accepted explanation for the evolution of the Saz. The Saz neither looks nor sounds like any Central Asian, horse hair and sheep gut bullshit instrument you seem to be comparing it to. It evolved as a result of the synthesis of different instruments used by different cultures. It's not a Turkic instrument, just as any scientific Latin neologism isn't a Roman invention. You don't know your shit mate, you proved that.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
you re citing your own 'knowledge' as reference to justify your statement.. i do not care for possiblities, there is a written history that tells the origin of baglama, go read kasgarlı mahmut's writings and his records for further information..
i do not have time to enlight ignorants such as you, grow some brain and before calling someone ignorant, you should disclaim him with 'valuable' refrences.
about myth of kurdish culture with 5000 years of evolution thing, i just laugh..
kespec 2 years ago
I don't give two fucks about gotu boklu mahmut's writings and records.
Turkish fascist propaganda doesn't fool me. You people were raised to believe the Hittites were a Turkish culture, ahahaha.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
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The only myth is the myth of Turkish culture. Turkish culture is nomads living in yurts made of animal skins. Everything in Turkey now is a result of the appropriation of Greek and Middle Eastern cultures. Turks HAVE NO CULTURE of their own.
gloomyoutlook 2 years ago
it is original turkish music of anatolian people
semihispanya 2 years ago
dont be angry to atatürk if you can be his half...
007Poseidon 2 years ago
someone can help me?
i wanna learn turkish
Ruka22ed 2 years ago 3
Latin Writing and Reading Unites Turkic People...Turks Not Arab..Sorry No Offense..
havasuatesh 2 years ago
i love the melody :)!!! THATS TURKEY TURKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY BEST OF!!!
nitro0088 2 years ago
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I would be able to read the lyrics to this Turkish song with Arabic letters, if it weren't for Mustafa Kemal...
TrustInIslam 2 years ago
But you are using latin alphabet , Why ? Brother , Turkish language have 28 difrent voices.. And Arabic alphabeth is not enough for this.Our language dont have "long vowel" .. But arabic have.Our language dont have "back unvoiced" .. But arabic have.. Then my people were not knowing to write.They were reading.. But they could not write before Ataturk !
eniser 2 years ago 3
It would have easier for them to just learn to write the words they were speaking, rather than being taught an entirely new alphabet.
TrustInIslam 2 years ago
In my Country , A lot of children start to learn arabic alphabet when they were 7 years old.On the other hand , Kuran is arabic.We need to learn if we want to read :) But it doesnt mean "we must write with arabic".. It doesnt mean "we must use arabic alphabet in turkish language" :)
eniser 2 years ago
Exactly, what was the point in changing the national alphabet from Arabic letters to something else, when everyone was Muslim? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question bro.
TrustInIslam 2 years ago
Because round about ten percent actually understood the ottoman turkish. Atatürk gave turkey a better alfabet. Arabic script is useless to write Turkish
greceanu 2 years ago
Ataturk also destroyed the last bit of the Islamic Caliphite. Dwell on that.
TrustInIslam 2 years ago
can somebody who speaks turkish write down the lyrics of this song using English alphabet, please? I will be very thankful
shirinbonusha 2 years ago
- yarali ceylanim senden baskasina gonul vermem , elin besledigi gulden al bu canimi sana dermem .
- yandi yurek yana yana , savur kulum done done , sogumadan elde kina zulfun telin yere sermem .
- amman yare amman yare ,hey pir (ali )ver bu derde care .
bir ok dustu yaralandim , dost elinden parelendim , dar gunumde karalandim , dil lal olur seni yermem .
and so on .......
there is a site called : ( turku sitesi ) you can get all the turkish folk songs lyrics and music notes .
m98m99 2 years ago
thank you so much, m98m99, this is very nice of you.
Can you kindly write me what the song is about?
shirinbonusha 2 years ago
ah, the beautiful tezene. listen to the mesmerizing sounds when he rests the tone.
Zitozu 2 years ago
turkey! is wonderfulll country.
Dogu87es 2 years ago 2
So I heard Turkey is the best country in the world, is this true?
wtfisditvoorbullshit 2 years ago
well you should find out yourself what kind of country it is^^ for me is turkey and japan the best!
12081985 2 years ago 2
Turk folk music.
Dogu87es 2 years ago
So, which folklor is this very, very beatuful songsong after all?
bregobegach 2 years ago
amaaaan wot's that?? no even need to listen because it is not turkish folk!!! listen "iki keklik"!!
su0935 2 years ago
The way it is performed evokes aspiration to learn Turkish
shirinbonusha 2 years ago
very nice
elidor300 2 years ago
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acerb45666555 2 years ago
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turkey will rule the world one day and i will help mae it happen
nidaroon858 2 years ago
rox
vallenato 3 years ago
thats what i like about the turkish folk or some modern music.....its always near to the Arabian music
TheExtinctCondor 3 years ago
Me too. :)
TrustInIslam 2 years ago
very beautiful music.
thnx bro .
n444n444 3 years ago 2