I liked Anne Boleyn as much as to call her my role model, but really? Anne Boleyn fans should take a break! With Jane Seymour harassing and adding Boleyn as your last name!
I think part of the issue with Anne is that everyone - including Henry later - blamed her for everything cruel that Henry did to Katherine and Mary. Anne's influence was certainly a part of it, and I won't say that it wasn't, but in the end the decision was Henry's. Anne really only had two options when Henry decided to pursue her, and I can't say I blame her for not wanting to be just a mistress. For the record, my favorite wife is Katherine Parr, but after that it's AB, KoA, or AoC; can't pick
Like you, I like all of Henry's wives. I admit at first I didn't like Anne, but I've changed my opinion. I respect Anne for not giving into Henry and telling him that she not going be with him unless they were married. However, the problem I have with argument that Henry was not going to be getting any more children from Katherine, and Henry was right in replacing her with Anne. for me personally , I feel its wrong to get in between someone marriage no matter what the circumstances.
are. Plus, I have a promblem with the double standard that comes after it when Henry replaces Anne with Jane. I mean same argument that Anne Boleyn fans made for Anne could apply for Jane as well. Henry was not getting any sons from Anne, so was it right for him to replace her with Jane?
Personally I think Anne got the short end of the stick with her relationship to Henry. It's like you said, what choice did she have? But I don't think it was right for her to ursurp Cathrine because Henry and Cathrine were still married at the time. I don't think it was right for her to pursue being queen like she did, when he was still married, because he was still married. He wasn't single when she wanted to be married to him, he just wanted someone to give him a son, once Cathrine was gone.
Great question, and I'm glad to see you're pursuing the real history. As has been previously stated, once Henry set his sights on Anne, she was off limits to everybody else (Wyatt's poem "Whoso List to Hunt" talks of a deer that is pretty much representative of Anne, and it's labeled with the Latin for "No man may touch me.") Was Anne justified is taking Katharine's spot? Not by our standards, but she had told Henry she was saving her virginity for marriage, and she wasn't allowed many options.
Yet, Love blinds Henry to the reality tt England is no man's island. Foreign policies also plays a part for stability.. Strangely, Anne couldn't produce the male heir to justify the English Reformation tt took innocent lives.. Plus, the Catholic Euporean countries refuse to recognise Anne & Elizabeth as Queen & Princess, thus, convincing Henry tt she's a liability & the only to savage the situtation was to behead her & take Jane as his wife (which they'll accept cuz' Katherine had died)...
Anne's refusal to sleep with Henry might have set her apart from all the other women Henry had slept with... I bet Anne had no intention of loving Henry either but when one tasted power, it's pretty addictive & Anne knows tt Wolsey & Katherine stand in the way of her becoming queen. This concidentally goes along with Henry's desire for a new wife cuz' Katherine was unable to have any more children... So, due to their goals, they fell in love, thus, setting off a historical chain of reactions
Henry was never meant to be King cuz' anyone thought tt it was going to be his older brother, Arthur... He was probably a king-on-training when he married Katherine but he understood that a male heir is needed... after miscarriages & one surviving daughter, he became worried and that's when Anne comes in... The Boleyns, including others, are enemies of Cardinal Wolsey (Henry's advisor)...,
Royals (and those wanting to be one) are spoilt, self absorbed pigs!
There actions are justified by they're damn spoilt behaviour and high rank just not their upbringing!
{No offense intended =)}
...again plausable argument ^^
(NOTE TO OTHERS=
I realise you'll thumb me down, but frankly, what i'm saying is the truth. Royals act the way they do/did because they were/are so high up in the world and are used to getting what they want)
I think King Henry VIII may have got rid of Catherine of Aragon anyway, whether Anne Boleyn was there or not. He was sleeping around and he wanted a son desperatly. Back then it was so hard for people to get divorces, if Henry was in modern society he wouldn't have hesitated to get a divorce and get remarried, it's so easy these days. I don't think Henry would have stayed with any of his wives/mistresses long enough to be quite honest. Good video - keep up the good work, put it in my faces
Anne Boleyn was smart and ambitious. She knew exactly what type of situation she was coming into, and she did what she had to do to make it favorable for herself. It wasn't ok. It wasn't right, but she did it.
For the record, my "favorite" of the six was Katharine Howard.
Great question. I have to say that it was completely wrong on a moral level, especially from our own perceptions of morality today, for Anne to have replaced Catherine. Given the information that exists about the Great Matter, Catherine, Anne, and Henry, it was, sadly, the only right thing she was allowed to do. Women's only worth was to make great marriages. Being pursued by Henry did not allow Anne to even have the prospects of having someone brave enough to ask for her hand when the king...
was pursuing her. Henry pretty much stalked her after allowing her engagement with Hal Percy to end at Wolsey's hand. Though I feel for Catherine, I dont think AB had much choice. It was either rebuff the king of england, disgrace her family, and end in poor spinsterhood (after living in the glamorous French court), or be queen. Plus, Henry was known for his charm and passion. Maybe she really did fall in love with him, and people do messed up things for love.
they were fairly good- almost noble, if you think about it- in context. And then of coruse the Reformation was twisted and perverted by people like Cromwell, who only wanted the money from the monasteries. *sigh* Joanna Denny has a book about her, which is really poorly written (she tries to cannonize Anne by tearing down everyone who opposed her) but makes some interesting points about her role in the Reformation.
And then she says that Anne's poor treatment of Mary is "understandable" because Mary refused to accept Anne as queen and illegitimise herself. It's ridiculous. She cherry-picks information so that she can make her point stronger, while withholding stuff that invalidates her point. It's terrible writing.
you're just saying that b/c you don't like Anne. H ow is a pro-Anne book different from a pro Mary book? Mary killed people, Anne didn't. I don't get why Mary is a saint and Anne is a demon.
Actually, Anne is one of my favourite historical figures, but if someone sets out to write history, they have to write HISTORY, not a revisionist version to suit the way they wish things had played out. It's a disservice to the complex and interesting people whose lives are twisted to suit the agenda of the author.
It's a tricky question, mostly because the stakes were higher than they would be today. In today's world, the stakes only go as high as "I want to marry this guy because he's rich and powerful, and I'll be rich and powerful by association." For Anne, the stakes were the souls of everyone in England, because she honestly believed that the Catholic Church was sinful and gluttonous. (And it was the latter- there were enormous abuses of power going on) So while we would condemn her actions today,
Well there were different branches of the Reformation. The spectrum ran from old-school Catholics (Katherine, Thomas More) to Protestants (Anne, Cranmer) to hardcore Lutherans (Martin Luther, Catherine Parr to a certain extent). Did she really practice as a Catholic? I'd assume she would worship in the Church of England, seeing as how it was tied to her marriage. And she supported the dissolution of the monasteries.
Yeah I appreciate the thing about the JS. As far as AB is concerned, I've heard quite a lot that she herself was a reformer. Her brother too, but not her father, he was just greedy, I would say. But Anne certainly promoted protestants, and the protestant cause to get where she did, although she did defend the monasteries. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure her heart was in reform.
Well Anne did a do a lot of things to Mary, terrible things, everything she did to Mary is written in "Sovreign Ladies: The Six Reging Queens of England"
I know that...is that the Maureen Walker Book. I think I might know it. I wasn't so keen on it (if we're talking about the same thing). It was quite Herman/Weirish.
She did practice Catholicism to some extent, but in the beginning of the Reformation, reformists/protestants were more about not following the Pope, not worshipping idols, and having the Bible in the vernacular language which for Anne was English. She had an English Bible in her quarters, which she had her ladies read from. Even her last words, To Jesus I commend my soul, were in English, which was against Catholicism, since Latin was the official language of the religion.
Yes but the majority of people didn't want the reformation. They were happy with the Church they were a part of. They didn't want to be reformists, their monastires were taken away from them - were would a traveller go if they needed to stay the night? the poor?the sick?
Like you said Henry pursued Anne even when she said not until he married her. Anne had to keep flirting and promising things during that time. It took many years for the divorce to happen. To get approval from the Pope. Etc, etc. Anne probably did what she did to Catherine because it took so long. Anne could have lost the King to Jane or back to her sister.
Anyway you look at it, it was selfish of Anne to usurp Catherine. Though if she did not usurp her Elizabeth would never have existed.
Whether he was looking for a divorce is debatable. There were rumours flying around earlier - but it seems unlikely as Catherine was pregnant at the time! I don't think it was ok, she encouraged him and she threatend to kill Catherine and her daughter Mary - more than once! To me that is not ok. For Catherine to go and die loney, in pain, and in exile was not okay either, yes I know it was Hnery who sent her there
I agree with you as to what Anne did to Catherine was wrong. But I think that Anne is judged to harshly with Mary, she did threaten her, but not with death, and Mary goaded her up the wall, Anne tried to reconcile with her repeatedly. Also, its not a justification for Mary's atrocities during her reign (not that you said that, but people do).
Yeah. There may have been no bloody Mary if there was no AB, but it's no justification on Mary's part. Elizabeth had a much harder time growing up, and her religious policies were no where near as draconian.
I disagree, Elizabeth was much younger than Mary when she lost her mother, and she was had the least favour from her father, which Mary did have after she conceded to her father. Elizabeth didn't find favour until KP came along. Mary, on the other hand, did. Elizabeth was continually stigmatized as being the daughter of a witch/whore whatever. She had problems with Seymour and was threatened with death when Mary came to the throne.
I disagree. After Mary conceded to Henry, she had much more favour than Elizabeth. Throughout her life she freely practised Catholicism, and when Edward dared tried to stop her Mary came out on top.
It wasn't freely. It was under tight, tight lock when the new prospect (Jane Grey's father in law) came Mary wanted to flee to Spain out of fear for her life
Cranmer and too a lesser extent, Cromwell. It was really Anne who insinuated Catherine's downfall. So yeah, it wasn't okay, because that's a truly horrible thing to do. However it still had the positives (in my opinion) of allowing the English Reformation and the Royal Supremacy.
I agree, but the fact that the Reformation was forced upon people was not okay. Off topic: Emma! You're back! Has your break from YT because of exams finished?
Ummm, although I do really like Anne, I don't think what she did to Catherine was right, and I think she did insinuate Catherine's downfall, because Henry did not make any moves towards divorce before he met Anne, even though he was uncomfortable about his marriage.
Also about Henry pursuing Anne. He did, but that was her intention, and her father's. She pushed it, pushed Henry, until she became Queen. She made all that possible through her promotion of Tyndale, and individuals such as
I liked Anne Boleyn as much as to call her my role model, but really? Anne Boleyn fans should take a break! With Jane Seymour harassing and adding Boleyn as your last name!
TheLadyPlantagenet 5 months ago
I think part of the issue with Anne is that everyone - including Henry later - blamed her for everything cruel that Henry did to Katherine and Mary. Anne's influence was certainly a part of it, and I won't say that it wasn't, but in the end the decision was Henry's. Anne really only had two options when Henry decided to pursue her, and I can't say I blame her for not wanting to be just a mistress. For the record, my favorite wife is Katherine Parr, but after that it's AB, KoA, or AoC; can't pick
PanBoleyn 1 year ago
Like you, I like all of Henry's wives. I admit at first I didn't like Anne, but I've changed my opinion. I respect Anne for not giving into Henry and telling him that she not going be with him unless they were married. However, the problem I have with argument that Henry was not going to be getting any more children from Katherine, and Henry was right in replacing her with Anne. for me personally , I feel its wrong to get in between someone marriage no matter what the circumstances.
Ladyjaxs 2 years ago
are. Plus, I have a promblem with the double standard that comes after it when Henry replaces Anne with Jane. I mean same argument that Anne Boleyn fans made for Anne could apply for Jane as well. Henry was not getting any sons from Anne, so was it right for him to replace her with Jane?
Ladyjaxs 2 years ago
Personally I think Anne got the short end of the stick with her relationship to Henry. It's like you said, what choice did she have? But I don't think it was right for her to ursurp Cathrine because Henry and Cathrine were still married at the time. I don't think it was right for her to pursue being queen like she did, when he was still married, because he was still married. He wasn't single when she wanted to be married to him, he just wanted someone to give him a son, once Cathrine was gone.
Runnin2Crazy 2 years ago 2
Is adultery OK? ofcourse not, I appreciate Anne as an extrodinary person but I've never been able to accept her elevation on moral grounds
justlooking213 2 years ago 2
Great question, and I'm glad to see you're pursuing the real history. As has been previously stated, once Henry set his sights on Anne, she was off limits to everybody else (Wyatt's poem "Whoso List to Hunt" talks of a deer that is pretty much representative of Anne, and it's labeled with the Latin for "No man may touch me.") Was Anne justified is taking Katharine's spot? Not by our standards, but she had told Henry she was saving her virginity for marriage, and she wasn't allowed many options.
princesskyrie 2 years ago
Yet, Love blinds Henry to the reality tt England is no man's island. Foreign policies also plays a part for stability.. Strangely, Anne couldn't produce the male heir to justify the English Reformation tt took innocent lives.. Plus, the Catholic Euporean countries refuse to recognise Anne & Elizabeth as Queen & Princess, thus, convincing Henry tt she's a liability & the only to savage the situtation was to behead her & take Jane as his wife (which they'll accept cuz' Katherine had died)...
GeneLovesClassic1980 2 years ago
Anne's refusal to sleep with Henry might have set her apart from all the other women Henry had slept with... I bet Anne had no intention of loving Henry either but when one tasted power, it's pretty addictive & Anne knows tt Wolsey & Katherine stand in the way of her becoming queen. This concidentally goes along with Henry's desire for a new wife cuz' Katherine was unable to have any more children... So, due to their goals, they fell in love, thus, setting off a historical chain of reactions
GeneLovesClassic1980 2 years ago
Henry was never meant to be King cuz' anyone thought tt it was going to be his older brother, Arthur... He was probably a king-on-training when he married Katherine but he understood that a male heir is needed... after miscarriages & one surviving daughter, he became worried and that's when Anne comes in... The Boleyns, including others, are enemies of Cardinal Wolsey (Henry's advisor)...,
GeneLovesClassic1980 2 years ago
The one time where I want to watch a show, I don't have that station. -.- Maybe I'll get lucky and see if Youtube has the Tudors or elsewhere!
BurningMyDreams 2 years ago
Does the debating ever cease?!? :o
Anyway, to be blunt....
Royals (and those wanting to be one) are spoilt, self absorbed pigs!
There actions are justified by they're damn spoilt behaviour and high rank just not their upbringing!
{No offense intended =)}
...again plausable argument ^^
(NOTE TO OTHERS=
I realise you'll thumb me down, but frankly, what i'm saying is the truth. Royals act the way they do/did because they were/are so high up in the world and are used to getting what they want)
anneisdabomb 2 years ago 2
thumb up for u :)
and
well spoken
Keksmich 2 years ago
never really was interested in anne boleyn or the tutors or w/e
now u made me lol
sexfanatic 2 years ago
I think King Henry VIII may have got rid of Catherine of Aragon anyway, whether Anne Boleyn was there or not. He was sleeping around and he wanted a son desperatly. Back then it was so hard for people to get divorces, if Henry was in modern society he wouldn't have hesitated to get a divorce and get remarried, it's so easy these days. I don't think Henry would have stayed with any of his wives/mistresses long enough to be quite honest. Good video - keep up the good work, put it in my faces
VenusTheGoddess1 2 years ago 3
Favourites (not faces) lmfao
VenusTheGoddess1 2 years ago
Catherine Parr was actually number 6 she was the one who blatently the trophy wrench lol
SteveeAlbino 2 years ago
Sorry, how was Katherine Parr a trophy wife? She was hardly just a pretty face standing next to Henry.
PanBoleyn 1 year ago
Anne Boleyn was smart and ambitious. She knew exactly what type of situation she was coming into, and she did what she had to do to make it favorable for herself. It wasn't ok. It wasn't right, but she did it.
For the record, my "favorite" of the six was Katharine Howard.
SapphoGrl4U 2 years ago
Its not a book its a real life thing
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
She was justified in her own mind more than likely.
satanicwatermelon 2 years ago
Great question. I have to say that it was completely wrong on a moral level, especially from our own perceptions of morality today, for Anne to have replaced Catherine. Given the information that exists about the Great Matter, Catherine, Anne, and Henry, it was, sadly, the only right thing she was allowed to do. Women's only worth was to make great marriages. Being pursued by Henry did not allow Anne to even have the prospects of having someone brave enough to ask for her hand when the king...
xxHistoryGirl23xx 2 years ago
was pursuing her. Henry pretty much stalked her after allowing her engagement with Hal Percy to end at Wolsey's hand. Though I feel for Catherine, I dont think AB had much choice. It was either rebuff the king of england, disgrace her family, and end in poor spinsterhood (after living in the glamorous French court), or be queen. Plus, Henry was known for his charm and passion. Maybe she really did fall in love with him, and people do messed up things for love.
xxHistoryGirl23xx 2 years ago
I actually doubt that Henry would have divorced Catherine, he made no sign of it.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
they were fairly good- almost noble, if you think about it- in context. And then of coruse the Reformation was twisted and perverted by people like Cromwell, who only wanted the money from the monasteries. *sigh* Joanna Denny has a book about her, which is really poorly written (she tries to cannonize Anne by tearing down everyone who opposed her) but makes some interesting points about her role in the Reformation.
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago
Oh I know! I hate her book! She even goes as far to call COA arrogant simply because she complained about her appaling living conditions.
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Its a ridiculous book, there are plenty of ways of defending Anne without resorting to the demonisation of both Catherine and Mary.
lookinglass123 2 years ago 2
And then she says that Anne's poor treatment of Mary is "understandable" because Mary refused to accept Anne as queen and illegitimise herself. It's ridiculous. She cherry-picks information so that she can make her point stronger, while withholding stuff that invalidates her point. It's terrible writing.
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago 3
you're just saying that b/c you don't like Anne. H ow is a pro-Anne book different from a pro Mary book? Mary killed people, Anne didn't. I don't get why Mary is a saint and Anne is a demon.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
Actually, Anne is one of my favourite historical figures, but if someone sets out to write history, they have to write HISTORY, not a revisionist version to suit the way they wish things had played out. It's a disservice to the complex and interesting people whose lives are twisted to suit the agenda of the author.
Viorica8957 2 years ago 3
^that was me. Wrong account.
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago
oh ok. I get what you're saying.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
It's a tricky question, mostly because the stakes were higher than they would be today. In today's world, the stakes only go as high as "I want to marry this guy because he's rich and powerful, and I'll be rich and powerful by association." For Anne, the stakes were the souls of everyone in England, because she honestly believed that the Catholic Church was sinful and gluttonous. (And it was the latter- there were enormous abuses of power going on) So while we would condemn her actions today,
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago
I never really saw Anne's actions as fueled by Religion.
After all she practiced as a Catholic until her death
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
Well there were different branches of the Reformation. The spectrum ran from old-school Catholics (Katherine, Thomas More) to Protestants (Anne, Cranmer) to hardcore Lutherans (Martin Luther, Catherine Parr to a certain extent). Did she really practice as a Catholic? I'd assume she would worship in the Church of England, seeing as how it was tied to her marriage. And she supported the dissolution of the monasteries.
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago
No. she didn't. She only took catholic mass just BEFORE her death right? But before that she fueled reform.
It's up for debate as to whether she was repenting or make a statement about her innocence (don't ask me how that one works).
Personally, I think whatever conversions you have just before you die don't really count, loss of nerve if anything...
lookinglass123 2 years ago
I read somewhere that she did 'practice' as a Catholic until she died.
I'm sure how accurate it is, but I think her family pushed the reform more through her than her pushing it.
I mean JS is a Catholic, but her brother were reformer.
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
Yeah I appreciate the thing about the JS. As far as AB is concerned, I've heard quite a lot that she herself was a reformer. Her brother too, but not her father, he was just greedy, I would say. But Anne certainly promoted protestants, and the protestant cause to get where she did, although she did defend the monasteries. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure her heart was in reform.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
Well Anne did a do a lot of things to Mary, terrible things, everything she did to Mary is written in "Sovreign Ladies: The Six Reging Queens of England"
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Oh!!!
I know that...is that the Maureen Walker Book. I think I might know it. I wasn't so keen on it (if we're talking about the same thing). It was quite Herman/Weirish.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
No, it's the Joanna Denny one, urrgh it's just...awful!
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Same, idiot.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
How is a book that whitewashes Anne different from one that whitewashes Bloody Mary?
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
She did practice Catholicism to some extent, but in the beginning of the Reformation, reformists/protestants were more about not following the Pope, not worshipping idols, and having the Bible in the vernacular language which for Anne was English. She had an English Bible in her quarters, which she had her ladies read from. Even her last words, To Jesus I commend my soul, were in English, which was against Catholicism, since Latin was the official language of the religion.
xxHistoryGirl23xx 2 years ago
Yes but the majority of people didn't want the reformation. They were happy with the Church they were a part of. They didn't want to be reformists, their monastires were taken away from them - were would a traveller go if they needed to stay the night? the poor?the sick?
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Not saying it was justified, just that that's what her mindset was. The monasteries did good work and bad.
LaurasBookBlog 2 years ago
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GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
Like you said Henry pursued Anne even when she said not until he married her. Anne had to keep flirting and promising things during that time. It took many years for the divorce to happen. To get approval from the Pope. Etc, etc. Anne probably did what she did to Catherine because it took so long. Anne could have lost the King to Jane or back to her sister.
Anyway you look at it, it was selfish of Anne to usurp Catherine. Though if she did not usurp her Elizabeth would never have existed.
MirrorsInMyMind 2 years ago
Neither would "Blood" Mary
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
CONT. - but would that have happend if Anne hadn't been there? No, it wouldn't. I also hate that she and Henry wore yellow and celebrated her death.
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Whether he was looking for a divorce is debatable. There were rumours flying around earlier - but it seems unlikely as Catherine was pregnant at the time! I don't think it was ok, she encouraged him and she threatend to kill Catherine and her daughter Mary - more than once! To me that is not ok. For Catherine to go and die loney, in pain, and in exile was not okay either, yes I know it was Hnery who sent her there
katharinethequene 2 years ago
I agree with you as to what Anne did to Catherine was wrong. But I think that Anne is judged to harshly with Mary, she did threaten her, but not with death, and Mary goaded her up the wall, Anne tried to reconcile with her repeatedly. Also, its not a justification for Mary's atrocities during her reign (not that you said that, but people do).
lookinglass123 2 years ago
When people say that Anne tried to reconcile, I think they don't understand what Anne was asking Mary to do.
Anne was asking Mary to call Anne Queen and admit her mother's marriage was invalid. How could she EVER think that was going to happen.
I can say that, if there had been no AB there would be no "Blood" Mary
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
Yeah. There may have been no bloody Mary if there was no AB, but it's no justification on Mary's part. Elizabeth had a much harder time growing up, and her religious policies were no where near as draconian.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
Well, no, Elizabeth didn't have a worse time, she had a relativly peaceful and very happy upbringing.
katharinethequene 2 years ago
I disagree, Elizabeth was much younger than Mary when she lost her mother, and she was had the least favour from her father, which Mary did have after she conceded to her father. Elizabeth didn't find favour until KP came along. Mary, on the other hand, did. Elizabeth was continually stigmatized as being the daughter of a witch/whore whatever. She had problems with Seymour and was threatened with death when Mary came to the throne.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
The only trouble she had was the scandal with Seymour.
Mary's was harassed all of her adult life due to her religious practices and always in fear of death.
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
I disagree. After Mary conceded to Henry, she had much more favour than Elizabeth. Throughout her life she freely practised Catholicism, and when Edward dared tried to stop her Mary came out on top.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
It wasn't freely. It was under tight, tight lock when the new prospect (Jane Grey's father in law) came Mary wanted to flee to Spain out of fear for her life
MelinaPendulum 2 years ago
Cranmer and too a lesser extent, Cromwell. It was really Anne who insinuated Catherine's downfall. So yeah, it wasn't okay, because that's a truly horrible thing to do. However it still had the positives (in my opinion) of allowing the English Reformation and the Royal Supremacy.
lookinglass123 2 years ago
I agree, but the fact that the Reformation was forced upon people was not okay. Off topic: Emma! You're back! Has your break from YT because of exams finished?
katharinethequene 2 years ago
Well no. But that didn't have as much to do with Anne, but with Cromwell, trying to defend the monasteries was why she lost her head.
Oh yeah! I am back :) No my exams haven't even started yet. I haven't revised and I'm fucked. But I couldn't stay of yt :)
lookinglass123 2 years ago
Hey.
Ummm, although I do really like Anne, I don't think what she did to Catherine was right, and I think she did insinuate Catherine's downfall, because Henry did not make any moves towards divorce before he met Anne, even though he was uncomfortable about his marriage.
Also about Henry pursuing Anne. He did, but that was her intention, and her father's. She pushed it, pushed Henry, until she became Queen. She made all that possible through her promotion of Tyndale, and individuals such as
lookinglass123 2 years ago