Yes we need open borders. 10 million Africans should be allowed to emigrate to America this year. Why would anyone object? Just let everyone who wants to move to America. Things will be great when America becomes majority non-european. Oh and it will give us smaller goverment cause you know that hispanics and blacks vote liberterian!
I like how the problem could be solved if only the government would relax regulation... while a great idea, its sad that its just an attempt to fix a broken window that bureaucratic incompetence made...
I like the idea of sea steading but couldn't this be used as a tax shelter by land-bound companies? Base on Blueseed or something like it an avoid taxes, regulations, etc.?
@Gammaclipper Someone answered this somewhere, if I remember. Surprisingly enough, most land based companies, the largest of them or the ones with the most lobbying, would benefit more staying on land than moving to sea. :P
He's not the first and I see it becoming more and more of a possibility. My favorite were the huge Ocean Liners that had runways on the top of them and could drive right through a hurricane and not feel it because the ship is so huge. It was literally a super huge floating city.
This idea is so awesome. I'm surprised there was no mention of the Seasteading Institute. I think this is where the idea came from. Check out the Seasteading Institute.
I would love to see more competition from a wide range of different countries. I don't think that we like to see silicon valley dominating the entrepreneur sector.
I kind of see people renting a broom-closet sized room on the ship and doing most of their work from home. Why commute 12 miles out to sea? Can the government PROVE you thought-up that idea on-shore?
I live in Silicon Valley and I think we should be able to create our own laws, kinda like Hong Kong does, because neither Washington nor Sacramento knows whats best for us.
@humanhiveanomaly That is exactly what the Sea Steading Institute is trying to establish, with the support of people like billionaire Peter Thiels. They reckon they'll have a full city-like platform within the next decade.
It's a good idea, but I don't think physical presence is that needed these days for the transfer of ideas. Even people from China still manage to find a way on the internet. If they're doing actual work though, like they have labs and machine shops, then yeah.
I love Seasteading, and there are many ways that settlements at sea can physically create value, but this is not one of them.
The Blueseed business model is based ENTIRELY on circumventing the rules. Yes, there is reason to oppose those (immigration related) rules, but it should be done legislatively.
The hazard is obvious. Since they will allow ppl to participate in our economy that our government was trying to keep out, the rule will be changed to shut down the loophole.
The danger is to their investors. Businesses use loopholes as a matter of course, but the problem is when you build something (a ship in this case) that depends on the letter of the law. Government will likely sabotage it. Blueseed argues that it's a difficult law to change. Granted.
I want Blueseed to force a discussion about nationalism and libertarianism. It's just a bad investment and problematic as an inroad to Seasteading.
@zassounotsukushi The point is that the rules are too complex. I personally needed to hire some foreign students that lived in my town. Not because I wanted to, but because they were the only qualified people that responded to ads. The project I was working on had to wait a year because after talking to 3 lawyers with 3 different opinions, we didn't want to risk getting audited by the IRS. That amounted to over $100,000 that would have been pumped in our local economy during a recession.
@cdoftx Blueseed would work for your company, but it's a tradeoff - tradeoff for what?
If they worked for you from a ship (which would risk their other visa), then you would be contracting foreign labor. So fine, you avoid legal costs and our country avoids granting another person limited working rights.
But why did the govt. limit their working rights in the first place? Are the objectives of our immigration laws still met? Will the law be changed in response to this? Probably.
I sense some entrepreneurs will create a pirate startup to capitalize on this seaborne venture. If they are really savvy, they will have a subsidiary security firm specializing in anti-pirate logistics.
we need open borders. why would anyone worry about letting 10 million Africans emigrate to the United States?
knightschwartz 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Yes we need open borders. 10 million Africans should be allowed to emigrate to America this year. Why would anyone object? Just let everyone who wants to move to America. Things will be great when America becomes majority non-european. Oh and it will give us smaller goverment cause you know that hispanics and blacks vote liberterian!
knightschwartz 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@knightschwartz All I heard was, "EEK DARK PEOPLE!"
beigelycheenut 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ReasonTV
what the FUCK!?? living on the sea. damn.
halflifeproductionz 1 month ago
In Canada we have a special immigrant class for entrepreneurs. Once you can prove you've got some start-up money, you are fast tracked entry here.
pimpstoney 1 month ago
Oh wit, this is a way to put a few fat wealthy people on a special tax-evading yacht, what a great idea; maybe try this in Greece?
HyperMediaNews 1 month ago
Tax evasion will get lots of people excited, so great luck; come to America and don't pay your fair share...
HyperMediaNews 1 month ago
I like how the problem could be solved if only the government would relax regulation... while a great idea, its sad that its just an attempt to fix a broken window that bureaucratic incompetence made...
Firestryke2 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 4
I like the idea of sea steading but couldn't this be used as a tax shelter by land-bound companies? Base on Blueseed or something like it an avoid taxes, regulations, etc.?
Gammaclipper 2 months ago
@Gammaclipper Someone answered this somewhere, if I remember. Surprisingly enough, most land based companies, the largest of them or the ones with the most lobbying, would benefit more staying on land than moving to sea. :P
PM me for the video, I guess.
AnarchisThinker 1 month ago
I be there will be lots of drugs and hookers there.
38MJA 2 months ago
Intellectual Property Laws do not exist on foreign waters.
unkonshustudio 2 months ago
with as unfriendly as I hear Cal is to businesses it astounds me that silicon valley is still as prosperous as it is.
teranspecialist 2 months ago
Sound like this guy wants to build a rea life Rapture. Andrew Ryan wannabe.
Shonenut213 2 months ago
@Shonenut213
He's not the first and I see it becoming more and more of a possibility. My favorite were the huge Ocean Liners that had runways on the top of them and could drive right through a hurricane and not feel it because the ship is so huge. It was literally a super huge floating city.
fishblades 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This idea sounds retarded. This shit is going to fail sorry.
Shonenut213 2 months ago
This idea is so awesome. I'm surprised there was no mention of the Seasteading Institute. I think this is where the idea came from. Check out the Seasteading Institute.
SirTenenbaum 2 months ago
I would love to see more competition from a wide range of different countries. I don't think that we like to see silicon valley dominating the entrepreneur sector.
vonGleichenT 2 months ago
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!
elisala3menda 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
So they wont have to pay taxes there ? THAT IS AWESOME!
MrJigssaw1989 2 months ago
I kind of see people renting a broom-closet sized room on the ship and doing most of their work from home. Why commute 12 miles out to sea? Can the government PROVE you thought-up that idea on-shore?
blurglide 2 months ago
Better look out for splicers. :D
MagnusIan 2 months ago
MAX!!
Keylimedelight 2 months ago
Better look out for Pirates!
TheHossUSMC 2 months ago
Man these silicon valley guys are smart. Immigration laws? They founded another country.
MrDarknessandDeath 2 months ago
Silicon valley's literally creating an offshore asset. Did anyone think 'Galt's Gulch' when they saw this?
MrDarknessandDeath 2 months ago 2
How is the fishing off that barge?
ZombiedustXXX 2 months ago
Gives' Fresh off the boat' a new meaning.
TiaSaysSo 2 months ago
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joaohenrique1730 2 months ago
oh good they are building Rapture
JESTER588 2 months ago 4
@JESTER588 Would you kindly seastead with me
Darkwizzrobe 2 months ago
I live in Silicon Valley and I think we should be able to create our own laws, kinda like Hong Kong does, because neither Washington nor Sacramento knows whats best for us.
GunsOfThePhoenix 2 months ago 3
An innovative workaround against the politicians who have outlawed freedom of association.
furyofbongos 2 months ago
This was tried before, unsuccessful i might add, look up Brink :P Within a few years,, whole thing was turned to shit..........just sayin
jwka2001 2 months ago in playlist Reason.tv Features
My question is: What is keeping this from STAYING off shore. Why not stay detached from the parasitic sector?
humanhiveanomaly 2 months ago 4
@humanhiveanomaly That is exactly what the Sea Steading Institute is trying to establish, with the support of people like billionaire Peter Thiels. They reckon they'll have a full city-like platform within the next decade.
daveyg07 2 months ago
Great idea until martial law is declared and one sidewinder missile later blue seed is no more...
TacticalCitySlicker 2 months ago
@TacticalCitySlicker your wrong, it will be a harpoon missile.
humanhiveanomaly 2 months ago
@humanhiveanomaly You're right... Please forgive this silly Army ground-pounder.
TacticalCitySlicker 2 months ago
It's a good idea, but I don't think physical presence is that needed these days for the transfer of ideas. Even people from China still manage to find a way on the internet. If they're doing actual work though, like they have labs and machine shops, then yeah.
PigeonTech 2 months ago in playlist Reason.tv Interviews 2012
That's bullshit.
REWHBLCAIN 2 months ago
We are John Galt
trollprepper 2 months ago 2
good idea.
The government is an obstacle to economic growth, anyways.
aeternusero 2 months ago
Will cannabis be legál, or mandatory?
ron7006 2 months ago
S I N K - - T H A T - - S H I T
TheEnneagram 2 months ago
@TheEnneagram Dumbass
trollprepper 2 months ago
@trollprepper Your breath smells like Troll jizz ... Begone!
TheEnneagram 2 months ago
@TheEnneagram You have smell-o-vision on your computer? Awesome! Oh wait, I only typed the statement.... "We are John Galt"
Why do you fear me so?
trollprepper 2 months ago
Hey I work for seasteading.
Charlesperalo 2 months ago
I love Seasteading, and there are many ways that settlements at sea can physically create value, but this is not one of them.
The Blueseed business model is based ENTIRELY on circumventing the rules. Yes, there is reason to oppose those (immigration related) rules, but it should be done legislatively.
The hazard is obvious. Since they will allow ppl to participate in our economy that our government was trying to keep out, the rule will be changed to shut down the loophole.
zassounotsukushi 2 months ago 3
@zassounotsukushi Thank you for pointing that out so clearly.
TheEnneagram 2 months ago
@TheEnneagram So I'm going to write more.
The danger is to their investors. Businesses use loopholes as a matter of course, but the problem is when you build something (a ship in this case) that depends on the letter of the law. Government will likely sabotage it. Blueseed argues that it's a difficult law to change. Granted.
I want Blueseed to force a discussion about nationalism and libertarianism. It's just a bad investment and problematic as an inroad to Seasteading.
zassounotsukushi 2 months ago
@zassounotsukushi The point is that the rules are too complex. I personally needed to hire some foreign students that lived in my town. Not because I wanted to, but because they were the only qualified people that responded to ads. The project I was working on had to wait a year because after talking to 3 lawyers with 3 different opinions, we didn't want to risk getting audited by the IRS. That amounted to over $100,000 that would have been pumped in our local economy during a recession.
cdoftx 2 months ago
@cdoftx Blueseed would work for your company, but it's a tradeoff - tradeoff for what?
If they worked for you from a ship (which would risk their other visa), then you would be contracting foreign labor. So fine, you avoid legal costs and our country avoids granting another person limited working rights.
But why did the govt. limit their working rights in the first place? Are the objectives of our immigration laws still met? Will the law be changed in response to this? Probably.
zassounotsukushi 2 months ago
@zassounotsukushi Is it possible to simply estabilish the company on that ship ? That way the company wouldnt have to pay any taxes right ?
MrJigssaw1989 2 months ago
this is just a front for Cobra, I know it!
TacticalNotIncluded 2 months ago 44
I sense some entrepreneurs will create a pirate startup to capitalize on this seaborne venture. If they are really savvy, they will have a subsidiary security firm specializing in anti-pirate logistics.
chocomalk 2 months ago 2
Interesting, will you be able to smoke weed there?
hoosierhiver 2 months ago in playlist Reason.tv Features 39
@hoosierhiver - actually, the U.S. government claims jurisdiction over all open oceans on the planet in their "war" on drugs.
furyofbongos 2 months ago
@hoosierhiver Sorry, it's a fire hazard... you could vaporize it, thou.
wallysaruman 1 month ago
W A S T E
TheEnneagram 2 months ago
@TheEnneagram thANK YOU !!
giantgreenbuddy 2 months ago in playlist Reason.tv Features