If this man didn't have a heart attack soon after I think not all of the public would have the same perception of this incident.
Personally if it was me I would have left the area quickly, I wouldn't have walked slowly in front of a line of Riot Police with my hands in my pockets.
fucking policeman we must protest vs the police and fuck this policeman specially in the usa the officer hits black guys the y do nothing nothinnnngggg !!!
@tomsbumboy I'm sorry but i cannot understand a word of what you're saying, please try using proper English, unless of course that was a language that is similar to English in which case a apologize.
The police done everything in their power to destroy evidence in this case. They used a pathologist who was under investigation for incompetence knowing they could rely on him to contaminate evidence to save his job. They lied saying they never hit Mr. Tomlinson only to change their story when this video emerged. Yet none of the officers involved have been charged with trying to pervert the course of justice. The video proves that the law in the UK is completely corrupt.
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its disgusting, this is know as deindividuation, when you put someone in a crowd or give them a uniform they start to develop a sense of anonymity. from this they start to loose self regulation allowing them to become more aggressive as they fell the anonymity has made less likely to be judged for aggressive behaviour. we need to regulate the police and make them seem more like humans than being disguised villains, this will stop institutional aggression
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pushing a middle aged man from behind can be quite severe. probably something in his brain snatched or he broke his neck (which is way easier than u think and doesnt have to affect u at all other than maybe suddenly killing u without any warning or symptoms be4hand or just healing)
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you see how he got hit by a baton in the leg, and witnesses say that he was stumbling b4 droping and dieing so that baton hit might have something to do with it
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I'm just going to say two things which have probably been said many times before. It seems quite obvious that Ian is trying to cause an obstruction, most people wouldn't walk that slow in front of riot police for fear of getting arrested for some stupid law.
Saying that, what the officer did is completely out of order, first striking Ian in the leg as maybe a "warning" shouldn't have been followed with a very hard push, It's obvious he wasn't having a good day and he chose to take it out on Ian
> It seems quite obvious that Ian is trying to cause an obstruction, most people wouldn't walk that slow in front of riot police for fear of getting arrested for some stupid law.
He was just tired, see e.g. watch?v=fWinfxscOl4&t=1m8s (Sky News "Officer Unlawfully Killed Ian Tomlinson At G20 Protest") "... and other camera footage shows him trying various routes home, but each time he'd been turned back at police cordons."
@Erik20091113 No I don't mean ex-officer. PC Simon Harwood still holds the rank of Constable. No it's not up to PC Harwood to attack people as you put it, if that is indeed what happened, however that does not change the fact that it is not up to you, or anyone else not involved in the trial to determine his guilt. That is what the judicial system is there for. You are not a Judge. This OFFICER has a right to a fair trial, and it is NONE of your business.
@Erik20091113 it is only obvious that he struck him. anything else is speculation, to be decided by a jury NOT you, again that's why we have a judiciary. Your comment outlines how bad your understanding of police powers is, and more specifically the purpose of an arrest. The last comment is just nonsense.
@Erik20091113 It is well deserved justice. And he will have no doubt been put before a Court to have some more. There is nothing bent about a policeman giving someone like that a good kick in. He put countless innocent lives in serious danger because he didn't want to get caught.
@Erik20091113 No I don't mean ex-officer. PC Simon Harwood still holds the rank of Constable. No it's not up to PC Harwood to attack people as you put it, if that is indeed what happened, however that does not change the fact that it is not up to you, or anyone else not involved in the trial to determine his guilt. That is what the judicial system is there for. You are not a Judge. This OFFICER has a right to a fair trial, and it is NONE of your business.
@honeymclean He was moving on, he's walking away from them, the police had the area locked down anyway so it was impossible to truly get away from them. If they'd just let him pass he'd still be here today. Only one person here is acting like a fanny, he's the one in the uniform and balaclava.
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Did this piece of filth get away with murder in the end? To the royal flush person who thinks 'the days of the police protecting their own are over'. You are a delusional fool and/or I suspect you are a copper anyway.
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the met police are prick this isn't the first time they have done this to some one look at the video he didn't do any thing at all i can't understand why the police man did what he did he now should be fired and sent down for man slaughter but that want happen because justice is re to come by my condolences to the man's family, may this be a lesson the police help you and they don't help you most of the time it ways in the way of not helping.
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@007RoyalFlush Anybody whome kills should be open the the full force of the law and media coverage, whatever they do for a job! you a cop by any chance.
@skiddy250 Before a trial? I think you'll find that's a breach of basic human rights, something you all claim to fight for. Only when they're YOUR OWN rights, of course. Hypocrites.
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@007RoyalFlush I think your find its in the national inertrest that the people whome protect an serve are working outside the law and go around beating good everyday folk up! its plane wrong and should be addressed in every way possible.. Even if it means naming and shameing every one of them! This way it might just stop this barbaric behaviour..
@skiddy250 Yes it most definitely should be addressed, but "naming and shaming" before that person has had his law-given absolute right to defend itself is simply wrong, and goes against the core principals of basic human rights. It's hypocrisy in its worst form.
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@007RoyalFlush To many people are hiding behind such laws, anyway this really was a clear cut case. plus what about ian tomlinson rights eg walking home safely from work. This is what happens when our rights as a nation are watered down... whome cast the first stone?
@skiddy250 They have an absolute right to hide behind those laws, they are there for a very good reason. It is not up to the media or the public to determine a person's guilt, regardless of how obvious it may or may not seem. That is the whole point of having a judicial system. You have missed the point entirely, the treatment of PC Harwood shows human rights being entirely ignored. You have no right to judge him, and you have no right to know his identity before he has had his day in Court.
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@007RoyalFlush No its not up to the media but the public are drafted in to determine the guilt of a person! This took place he is guilty, what i hear or say don't count for jack. if that vid had never been taken this would have been swept under the carpet and another manslaughter by the police would have faded into the past. He's a killer.
@skiddy250 Yes, it's called a jury. Are you part of that jury? He is innocent until he is proven guilty in a court room. That is a fundamental human right that we all have. Your opinion on what may or may not have happened but for the media coverage is completely irrelevent. Rights are equal to all men, including police officers.
@007RoyalFlush You assume the police would have told us the truth if this vid hadn't come out, remember when Tomlinson collapsed at the police line and officers had had no contact with him?
The names of those accused of crimes end up in the media every day, the police can't be an exception. Harwood has had the same treatment as almost every other criminal his name was given to the media.
@Starman117 They may not have made it public but they certainly would still be investigating. The police have no obligation to make public any internal enquiries. The days of police protecting their own is well and truly behind us. They take a completely opposite stance today. I'm not in any way suggesting that police are or should be an exception. The media have no right to identify ANYONE unless they have already been found guilty or are on the run.
@007RoyalFlush Well the media do, all the time, after your precious police force tell them. So how about they A stop blabbing and B nick the papers that do? Noone should be identified but whilst they are the police can't be the exception. The days of police protecting their own are in the past? Really? Remember when they told us he fell over and they were pelted with bricks whilst they tried to save him? Police lies to cover their own arses are alive and well.
@Starman117 The police don't tell them to you moron, it's exactly the opposite of what they want. If you knew anything about the judicial system and the technicalities available to defendants then you would be agreeing with me. Police don't give a shit about each other
@007RoyalFlush Go to google go to the news tab, then google police confirm. It's right there. Plus there was the saline woman. Yes sometimes it's media sources but think about who those sources must be sometimes. Why is it so impossible for the police to name someone? They named Harwood.
@007RoyalFlush And if they really didn't give a shit about each other we'd have had the truth from the start and the City Officer's complaints would have been passed up to the IPCC
@Starman117 You're not entitled to know a damn thing, so get off your high horse. The police don't have to reveal any details whatsoever to the public. They can make up any story they damn well please. The only thing that matters is whether any wrongdoing is dealt with properly, and that's none of your business either, just the same as it's none of my business if you get reprimanded at your place of work.
@007RoyalFlush I may not be but the police will tell me (via the media) whether I'm entitled to or not. The police blab all the time. Why do you think they're in so much trouble over the Leveson inquiry? It's well known they're too close to the press. How about you go demand the saline nurses not be named instead of a killer?
@Starman117 The media have a spin on everything, they pick and choose what to broadcast and how to edit it in order to service their angle. The police HATE the press with a passion, they cause nothing but problems for them. Top ranking big-wigs may be a different story all together, but they're not really policemen, they're politicians in uniform. I'm talking about REAL policemen.
@007RoyalFlush So it's the bosses that out the suspects? They're still policemen and would have been standing beside the real policemen at some point. In English what you're saying is that the senior officers are twats. Name an organisation run by twats that is in any way good. Yeah the press do give them problems, tediously outing their crimes, one in this vid see above. The media spin but the camera doesn't lie.
@Starman117 No police officer "outs" the suspects, I've said this many times, it is counterproductive to the objectives of the police, unless that person is on the run and they need him found. You are naive if you think that the same incident filmed on the same camera at the same time can't have very different reactions based on the way it is edited and how much of it the media choose to allow us to see.
@007RoyalFlush I know the power of editing there's none here it shows the whole assault from start to finish. And knowing the circumstances surrounding it makes it even worse, cause pretty much every defence of the police that's been given on here is proved wrong.
So the police never out anyone, so I assume that wasn't a police officer confirming in that article I showed you it was a man in fancy dress? Journalists aren't breaking into police stations for info on suspects the police tell them
> The media have no right to identify ANYONE unless they have already been found guilty or are on the run.
Noone has a right to kill, unless in self defence. Anyone who attacks a peaceful citizen and kills them should be behind bars; the police squad which didn't arrest the killer should be dismissed for blatant disregard of duty.
@Erik20091113 Your comment suggests that the officer deliberately killed this man, which he clearly did not. It is most definitely NOT up to you, or any other member of the public other than the jurors to decide the facts of the case. It quite simply has NOTHING to do with you. You truly are a moron if you believe there was no editing. There is no lead up to the incident. That's because the media don't want you you to see the lead up or it was never filmed. You have a poor understanding of law.
@007RoyalFlush innocent? u must be blind. fuck off with all your legal jargon! hits him in the legs then uses all his might to topple him when he can't even defend himself. you are a fucking moron. period. not only should he be named he should be fucking hung drawn and quartered for ABUSING his police powers.
* two cops have been accused of assaulting a suspect in a police cell until he confessed the two cops are accused of repeatedly spitting threatening and aiming punches at him they have been placed on light duties its alleged one cop searched him and took £1400 from his pocket trial for perverting the course of justice antthr feckin whitwash cumn up *
feel like i spent 40 years in the desert see what this not so united kingdom has become a pale horse is emerging , and those that had the audacity to doubt my claims where are they now ? look back a year to a year and a half eveything i prophesised has come true , the numerous spook aliases tried to sabatage the good word , i pradicted all the events now i say prepare for the return of the olympians
A police officer who was sacked by his force after being jailed for throwing a woman on to a concrete cell floor wins his job back.
The director of public prosecutions has expressed his concern at the collapse of Britain's biggest trial involving former police officers - after a judge ruled they could not get a fair hearing
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They were making an example out of this guy instead of going full force at the mob & getting beaten like an anorexic school girl !& the fat shit retard didn't even hurried to get away!
@Starman117 That maybe the case and I understand where you are coming from. But if I was in the polices shoes and I seen someone like Him walking slowly like in the video in front of me, I would think He's trying to provoke the squad when trying to do their job. If someone was walking slow at that pace in front of you then surely you would think somethings odd.
@GreyGooseDon Firstly he was walking away from the officers ad there is no law of "provoking the police" by walking down a street. He had committed no offence, there was no intelligence to say he had. The Police are supposed to be professional & if someone walking slow causes them to engage in criminal acts of violence they are in the wrong job. Lets remember the officer in his evidence has lied & lied to cover his actions. No the law is the law, indiscriminate violence is simply unacceptable.
@GreyGooseDon Something odd doesn't mean he's trying to piss me off, it might mean he's ill. In fact that's what it did mean he was very ill and died because of it. And what happened after they pushed him over? They stopped so he didn't get in the way they never intended to go any further,
@capturedpilot " The Home Office orders the police to provoke and abuse demonstrators," .... very true comment. This is pretty universal world wide. The only format they allow is protest, and then once together, they use brutality on the masses and snatch ring leaders to face charges of affray, which is a serious charge.Also they gain much intelligence for their files.
@1dantom " Not about pointless little spotty oiks voicing their disatisfaction with authority in general.
My mistake!," should we send our comments for your approval, so you can peruse them and discern their validity to topic. Listen, on the streets you may have guns, tasors and handcuffs for bullying us into conformity, but on here, you have to do it with facts and I.Q. ... this is why you whine, a level playing field for once.
@1dantom No its about the criminals in uniform called Police.....the same people one of the country's most senior judges called "Institutionally racist".......the same people that run people over and get charged with dangerous driving like the Mersey side officer 2 weeks ago....Institutionally racist....according to a senior high court judge.....
@1dantom Is that your best? ha ha ha ha ha.........No they should not be paid more....One should never pay for corruption. And frankly i have never come across such a shallow, uneducated idiot that brings nothing but insults and cheap shots....It says everything about you, which is not very much.
@dannymaclure1 this thread was going a bit quiet, I prayed either somebody pro-police or an arse hole would appear, then you showed up and filled both requisites.
@1dantom *Strikes you down* and hopefully you won't become more powerful than I can possibly imagine. Amazingly Dantom most people have a problem with innocent people being killed. Hard to grasp i know but true so it's very likely more than one person will disagree with you..
@Starman117 you missed the point completely; then thats you; filling this page with your ramblings. The death of Ian Tomlinson is rightly being looked at through the judicial system. My problem lies with the fools who hijack his case to complain about authority in general. And people with multi IDs (ring any bells?)
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@1dantom So that's how you try and win arguments by making false accusations against your opponents? I know you like to think saying the same thing over and over again makes it true but trust me it really doesn't. As for authority in general, how has the system treated this case? They've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into prosecuting him, it was even harder to get the truth about what happened in the first place. This case is everything wrong with the police and CPS in microcosm.
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@1dantom Ps read the police Blog Inspector gadget if you dare, it has a readrship of about 25% of the force and they don't think they did anything wrong here, They don't even think there should be a trial. Just a small problem if at least that many police think that, don't you agree?
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@1dantom You're paranoid badcop999. Trying to use false ad honims against your opponents doesn't help you win arguments. Btw to use your words against you again, no evidence so shoosh. A good phrase that, you should have been more careful about using it.
Tomlinson is a dumb fuck! If there were 35 police officers walking behind me, i would in no way just casually walk around with them, you would get the fuuuuck out of there!
the only thing that makes me happy is bleeding cops, in a perfect word i would fucking shoot every since corrupt fucking dirty cop out there for the pain and misery they cause communities everywhere. Police aren't your friend, they're a gang
Mr. Hardwood had certainly committed a common assault but it is difficult to imagine that such a so-called 'blunt force trauma', which seems in fact nothing more than a push, had caused Mr Tomlonson to die of massive internal bleeding. Dr. Cary's evidence given at the inquest is probably more credential than Dr. Patel's initial postmortem report on Ian Tomlinson but there is no apparent causal link between the assault and possible internal rupture which may have caused abdominal haemorrhage.
@MrPrivity Three doctors say this is what killed him, the one who didn't has been struck off for malpractice after ruling a woman found dead covered in knife wounds and bites had died of natural causes.
@MrPrivity You're right! His blood vessels were probably bound to rupture at any minute. Despite assaulting a man from behind, with his hands in his pocket, it is clearly absurd to suggest that this caused the internal bleeding reported...
@Starman117 Sorry, sarcasm is very hard to convey in text. Obviously, despite his health, PC Harwood ultimately killed this man - and as such should be charged.
look at those pig cunts thinking they are hard....we will burn you motherfuckers down if you push us any further..remember how u lost during the august riots u pussy pig fucks
@Obain what 1500? where? they didn't catch shit...even if true that is a tiny percentage of everyone who was rioting...I fucking loved the riots, hope they happen again soon
@Obain nope no trolling honest opinion..I fucking hate the government, the expense fiddling MPs, politicians, the 'I failed at life so I became a police officer to gain some power' police cunts, who are very racist btw, and right wing fuckends like urself...every rioter in August was a soldier of revolution
@Obain 1500 out of how many? Plus the fact that the polcie couldn't do shit to stop them and only caught them afterwards. I wouldn't say lost but they didn't win.
@Starman117 3 days of mass shoplifting.. and now everythings been normal for months. In fact robbery has gone down as much as 50% in some places due to all the idiots who put themselves in klink for a few years. If it was so easy it would still be going on now!
@Obain The riots are not still going on because people don't want them so, nothing more, the police police with our consent, wen we say not they are useless, that's largely a good thing, look here for example there are a dozen cops think that would have happened to them if the protesters had taken issue with this, the same thing that happened when the protesters took issue with coppers acting like twats in Tottenham.
@Starman117 My description is wrong actually, allow me to amend it.
No hope drug dealing, criminal underclass, sub-human, moral blanks. Thats a bit closer. And considering the country has 70 million people living in it I think we can see where the majority is. Once you have 46 million people agreeing with you get back to me.
@Obain No still wrong description, I'll leave that though you must be used to it by now. Where did you get 46 million from? And you cannot deny the fact that a mere 3000 people ran rings around 150,000 plus police for 3 days. See what I mean the second any large group says no to the police they're useless.
@Starman117 46 million is half the population of the UK, numbnuts. As for the police - considering prisons are full to bursting they do a pretty sterling job.
@Obain Half of 70 million is 46 million?? Half of 70 million is 35 million. And you know what it's not difficult to fill your prisons, our lot have managed it and they couldn't stop a measly 3 thousand rioters. The police outnumbered the rioters more than 50 to one.
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If this man didn't have a heart attack soon after I think not all of the public would have the same perception of this incident.
Personally if it was me I would have left the area quickly, I wouldn't have walked slowly in front of a line of Riot Police with my hands in my pockets.
xBlizzerx 1 week ago
What a trouble maker. Good on that policeman.
SuperChunderpants 1 week ago
fucking policeman we must protest vs the police and fuck this policeman specially in the usa the officer hits black guys the y do nothing nothinnnngggg !!!
TurkishboyTayfun44 1 week ago 2
Police getting away with murder again!!!
keremoto1 1 week ago 3
iz mate farmboy sez its a slite nudg. Fekn wankr.
tomsbumboy 1 week ago
@tomsbumboy I'm sorry but i cannot understand a word of what you're saying, please try using proper English, unless of course that was a language that is similar to English in which case a apologize.
brettsworld99 1 week ago
@brettsworld99
same langwidge az you. "a apologiZe" " playin wid mah cats and (somtimes) mah dog and anime"
Lol.
tomsbumboy 1 week ago
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@tomsbumboy Nope, not a word.
brettsworld99 1 week ago
PC Simon Harwood described the assault on Tomlinson as, "a pretty poor push!" Not from where I'm looking...
Damnblastify 1 week ago
The police done everything in their power to destroy evidence in this case. They used a pathologist who was under investigation for incompetence knowing they could rely on him to contaminate evidence to save his job. They lied saying they never hit Mr. Tomlinson only to change their story when this video emerged. Yet none of the officers involved have been charged with trying to pervert the course of justice. The video proves that the law in the UK is completely corrupt.
dashwood123 2 weeks ago
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its disgusting, this is know as deindividuation, when you put someone in a crowd or give them a uniform they start to develop a sense of anonymity. from this they start to loose self regulation allowing them to become more aggressive as they fell the anonymity has made less likely to be judged for aggressive behaviour. we need to regulate the police and make them seem more like humans than being disguised villains, this will stop institutional aggression
kahuna3901 2 weeks ago
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pushing a middle aged man from behind can be quite severe. probably something in his brain snatched or he broke his neck (which is way easier than u think and doesnt have to affect u at all other than maybe suddenly killing u without any warning or symptoms be4hand or just healing)
No0bT4rD 2 weeks ago
Its funny how people can still say 'Oh leave them alone they're just doing their job'.
sniper987 2 weeks ago 18
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you see how he got hit by a baton in the leg, and witnesses say that he was stumbling b4 droping and dieing so that baton hit might have something to do with it
robloxbang1 2 weeks ago
serious question how dd he passed away im sofaking confused
dablacksquad 3 weeks ago
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@dablacksquad integral bleed causd by the arsol in uniform
tomsbumboy 2 weeks ago
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I fucking hate that bunch of wall to wall corrupt cunts, something has to be done, and theres only so much people will stand for.
CallusDnb 3 weeks ago
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two sum up. ian was kild bye an arsol. u ol know that. end of storey.
tomsbumboy 3 weeks ago
@tomsbumboy =/
Jdondanegro 3 weeks ago
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the behavyor ov harewood is a perfec exampl 4 the reintrudukshion ov linch mobs.
tomsbumboy 3 weeks ago
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I'm just going to say two things which have probably been said many times before. It seems quite obvious that Ian is trying to cause an obstruction, most people wouldn't walk that slow in front of riot police for fear of getting arrested for some stupid law.
Saying that, what the officer did is completely out of order, first striking Ian in the leg as maybe a "warning" shouldn't have been followed with a very hard push, It's obvious he wasn't having a good day and he chose to take it out on Ian
ricky91t 3 weeks ago
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@ricky91t
> It seems quite obvious that Ian is trying to cause an obstruction, most people wouldn't walk that slow in front of riot police for fear of getting arrested for some stupid law.
He was just tired, see e.g. watch?v=fWinfxscOl4&t=1m8s (Sky News "Officer Unlawfully Killed Ian Tomlinson At G20 Protest") "... and other camera footage shows him trying various routes home, but each time he'd been turned back at police cordons."
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
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See also FIgAXMh73a0, which shows Simon Harwood had used excessive force more often that day.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 No I don't mean ex-officer. PC Simon Harwood still holds the rank of Constable. No it's not up to PC Harwood to attack people as you put it, if that is indeed what happened, however that does not change the fact that it is not up to you, or anyone else not involved in the trial to determine his guilt. That is what the judicial system is there for. You are not a Judge. This OFFICER has a right to a fair trial, and it is NONE of your business.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 5
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@007RoyalFlush
> No it's not up to PC Harwood to attack people as you put it, if that is indeed what happened,
It is obvious that Harwood attacked an unarmed man in the back, causing his death.
> That is what the judicial system is there for.
In a judicial system a killer would be arrested, quod non.
> This OFFICER has a right to a fair trial,
Ian Tomlinson was denied his right to a fair trial, he was killed. That killers are put behind bars, is everyone's business.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 it is only obvious that he struck him. anything else is speculation, to be decided by a jury NOT you, again that's why we have a judiciary. Your comment outlines how bad your understanding of police powers is, and more specifically the purpose of an arrest. The last comment is just nonsense.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 9
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@007RoyalFlush
> it is only obvious that he struck him
It is also obvious that the victim of that unprovoked attack in the back, died. The scumbag lied that he didn't hit him from behind.
> Your comment outlines how bad your understanding of police powers is, and more specifically the purpose of an arrest.
There was no arrest, there was an extra-judicial killing.
> The last comment is just nonsense.
Killers should be behind bars, in jail or in a mental asylum.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
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@007RoyalFlush
> to be decided by a jury NOT you, again that's why we have a judiciary.
To quote your comment at your latest video watch?v=c65jfVRTd-s "This police officer dishes out some well deserved justice", you defend bent coppers.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 It is well deserved justice. And he will have no doubt been put before a Court to have some more. There is nothing bent about a policeman giving someone like that a good kick in. He put countless innocent lives in serious danger because he didn't want to get caught.
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@007RoyalFlush
> It is well deserved justice.
Whether is it well deserved is debatable, but as long as it wasn't a sentence by a court, it certainly isn't justice.
> There is nothing bent about a policeman giving someone like that a good kick in.
Kicking someone on the ground is cowardly, typical behaviour of mafia enforcers.
> He put countless innocent lives in serious danger ...
Sure, and those two cops did too. They endangered countless innocent lives for a ff-ing car.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 No I don't mean ex-officer. PC Simon Harwood still holds the rank of Constable. No it's not up to PC Harwood to attack people as you put it, if that is indeed what happened, however that does not change the fact that it is not up to you, or anyone else not involved in the trial to determine his guilt. That is what the judicial system is there for. You are not a Judge. This OFFICER has a right to a fair trial, and it is NONE of your business.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago
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the police tell them shood reed the police SELL them.
tomsbumboy 3 weeks ago
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dantom/farmboy
evrybudy on heer nose ur simoharwode an ur goin 2 jale wer u wil b a prizon wife shared by a lod ov big blak men lmao
tomsbumboy 3 weeks ago
wot a sad lonly kunt ur farmboy
tomsbumboy 3 weeks ago
All he had to do was move on when asked by the police and he would still be here today,why oh why did he have to act like a fanny.
honeymclean 4 weeks ago 5
@honeymclean He was moving on, he's walking away from them, the police had the area locked down anyway so it was impossible to truly get away from them. If they'd just let him pass he'd still be here today. Only one person here is acting like a fanny, he's the one in the uniform and balaclava.
Starman117 3 weeks ago
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tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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Most police deserve to go to hell with there own dicks up there ass
hotrad1230 1 month ago
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Did this piece of filth get away with murder in the end? To the royal flush person who thinks 'the days of the police protecting their own are over'. You are a delusional fool and/or I suspect you are a copper anyway.
wooger9375 1 month ago
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that's disgusting
this makes makes me sick
that police officer is just such a coward.
he doesn't even deserve to take up space on earth
oooMTBMTBooo 1 month ago
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we hav a rite 2c the face ov the kiler as e is a danger on our strets
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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the met police are prick this isn't the first time they have done this to some one look at the video he didn't do any thing at all i can't understand why the police man did what he did he now should be fired and sent down for man slaughter but that want happen because justice is re to come by my condolences to the man's family, may this be a lesson the police help you and they don't help you most of the time it ways in the way of not helping.
scottysqueeze 1 month ago
How dare this video brandish an advertisement of zurich co.!!!!
TheMausey 1 month ago
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yup. jes like we hav a rite 2c th kilers face ?
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1MENSAMEMBER 1 month ago
@1MENSAMEMBER ooops edwina22!! messed up again and posted as tomsbumboy!!! oh dear! pmsl!!!
1dantom 1 month ago 2
@1dantom Quiet badcop999
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@Starman117 yes edwina22 whatever you say lmfao
1dantom 3 weeks ago 2
@1dantom Nah still wrong there. Tho you must be used to being wrong by now.
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tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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GLORY TO AN INDEPENDENT BRITAIN!
We must free ourselves from the evil American empire and the new world order.
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arabellasp2 1 month ago
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we hav a rite 2c the kilers face
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
The officer should NEVER have been publicly identified.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago
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@007RoyalFlush Anybody whome kills should be open the the full force of the law and media coverage, whatever they do for a job! you a cop by any chance.
skiddy250 1 month ago
@skiddy250 Before a trial? I think you'll find that's a breach of basic human rights, something you all claim to fight for. Only when they're YOUR OWN rights, of course. Hypocrites.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago 2
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@007RoyalFlush I think your find its in the national inertrest that the people whome protect an serve are working outside the law and go around beating good everyday folk up! its plane wrong and should be addressed in every way possible.. Even if it means naming and shameing every one of them! This way it might just stop this barbaric behaviour..
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@skiddy250 Yes it most definitely should be addressed, but "naming and shaming" before that person has had his law-given absolute right to defend itself is simply wrong, and goes against the core principals of basic human rights. It's hypocrisy in its worst form.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago 9
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@007RoyalFlush To many people are hiding behind such laws, anyway this really was a clear cut case. plus what about ian tomlinson rights eg walking home safely from work. This is what happens when our rights as a nation are watered down... whome cast the first stone?
skiddy250 1 month ago
@skiddy250 They have an absolute right to hide behind those laws, they are there for a very good reason. It is not up to the media or the public to determine a person's guilt, regardless of how obvious it may or may not seem. That is the whole point of having a judicial system. You have missed the point entirely, the treatment of PC Harwood shows human rights being entirely ignored. You have no right to judge him, and you have no right to know his identity before he has had his day in Court.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago 7
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@007RoyalFlush No its not up to the media but the public are drafted in to determine the guilt of a person! This took place he is guilty, what i hear or say don't count for jack. if that vid had never been taken this would have been swept under the carpet and another manslaughter by the police would have faded into the past. He's a killer.
skiddy250 1 month ago
@skiddy250 Yes, it's called a jury. Are you part of that jury? He is innocent until he is proven guilty in a court room. That is a fundamental human right that we all have. Your opinion on what may or may not have happened but for the media coverage is completely irrelevent. Rights are equal to all men, including police officers.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago 8
@007RoyalFlush You assume the police would have told us the truth if this vid hadn't come out, remember when Tomlinson collapsed at the police line and officers had had no contact with him?
The names of those accused of crimes end up in the media every day, the police can't be an exception. Harwood has had the same treatment as almost every other criminal his name was given to the media.
Starman117 1 month ago
@Starman117 They may not have made it public but they certainly would still be investigating. The police have no obligation to make public any internal enquiries. The days of police protecting their own is well and truly behind us. They take a completely opposite stance today. I'm not in any way suggesting that police are or should be an exception. The media have no right to identify ANYONE unless they have already been found guilty or are on the run.
007RoyalFlush 1 month ago 6
@007RoyalFlush Well the media do, all the time, after your precious police force tell them. So how about they A stop blabbing and B nick the papers that do? Noone should be identified but whilst they are the police can't be the exception. The days of police protecting their own are in the past? Really? Remember when they told us he fell over and they were pelted with bricks whilst they tried to save him? Police lies to cover their own arses are alive and well.
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@Starman117 The police don't tell them to you moron, it's exactly the opposite of what they want. If you knew anything about the judicial system and the technicalities available to defendants then you would be agreeing with me. Police don't give a shit about each other
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 2
@007RoyalFlush Go to google go to the news tab, then google police confirm. It's right there. Plus there was the saline woman. Yes sometimes it's media sources but think about who those sources must be sometimes. Why is it so impossible for the police to name someone? They named Harwood.
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@007RoyalFlush And if they really didn't give a shit about each other we'd have had the truth from the start and the City Officer's complaints would have been passed up to the IPCC
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@Starman117 You're not entitled to know a damn thing, so get off your high horse. The police don't have to reveal any details whatsoever to the public. They can make up any story they damn well please. The only thing that matters is whether any wrongdoing is dealt with properly, and that's none of your business either, just the same as it's none of my business if you get reprimanded at your place of work.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 2
@007RoyalFlush I may not be but the police will tell me (via the media) whether I'm entitled to or not. The police blab all the time. Why do you think they're in so much trouble over the Leveson inquiry? It's well known they're too close to the press. How about you go demand the saline nurses not be named instead of a killer?
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@Starman117 The media have a spin on everything, they pick and choose what to broadcast and how to edit it in order to service their angle. The police HATE the press with a passion, they cause nothing but problems for them. Top ranking big-wigs may be a different story all together, but they're not really policemen, they're politicians in uniform. I'm talking about REAL policemen.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 2
@007RoyalFlush So it's the bosses that out the suspects? They're still policemen and would have been standing beside the real policemen at some point. In English what you're saying is that the senior officers are twats. Name an organisation run by twats that is in any way good. Yeah the press do give them problems, tediously outing their crimes, one in this vid see above. The media spin but the camera doesn't lie.
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@Starman117 No police officer "outs" the suspects, I've said this many times, it is counterproductive to the objectives of the police, unless that person is on the run and they need him found. You are naive if you think that the same incident filmed on the same camera at the same time can't have very different reactions based on the way it is edited and how much of it the media choose to allow us to see.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago
@007RoyalFlush
> No police officer "outs" the suspects,
Killing the suspects is easier, isn't it?
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 You think you're being clever, but in actual fact your comment makes no sense.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 2
@007RoyalFlush I know the power of editing there's none here it shows the whole assault from start to finish. And knowing the circumstances surrounding it makes it even worse, cause pretty much every defence of the police that's been given on here is proved wrong.
So the police never out anyone, so I assume that wasn't a police officer confirming in that article I showed you it was a man in fancy dress? Journalists aren't breaking into police stations for info on suspects the police tell them
Starman117 3 weeks ago
@007RoyalFlush
> The media have no right to identify ANYONE unless they have already been found guilty or are on the run.
Noone has a right to kill, unless in self defence. Anyone who attacks a peaceful citizen and kills them should be behind bars; the police squad which didn't arrest the killer should be dismissed for blatant disregard of duty.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@Erik20091113 Your comment suggests that the officer deliberately killed this man, which he clearly did not. It is most definitely NOT up to you, or any other member of the public other than the jurors to decide the facts of the case. It quite simply has NOTHING to do with you. You truly are a moron if you believe there was no editing. There is no lead up to the incident. That's because the media don't want you you to see the lead up or it was never filmed. You have a poor understanding of law.
007RoyalFlush 3 weeks ago 2
@007RoyalFlush
> Your comment suggests that the officer deliberately killed this man, which he clearly did not.
He deliberate attacked an unarmed man in the back, causing his death.
I might hope you mean *ex*-officer.
> It is most definitely NOT up to you, or [...] to decide the facts of the case.
It is not up to Simon Harwood to decide which citizens he can attack.
> You truly are a moron
My IQ is a tad higher, but for imbeciles the difference might be hard to discern.
Erik20091113 3 weeks ago
@007RoyalFlush innocent? u must be blind. fuck off with all your legal jargon! hits him in the legs then uses all his might to topple him when he can't even defend himself. you are a fucking moron. period. not only should he be named he should be fucking hung drawn and quartered for ABUSING his police powers.
deadmonable 3 weeks ago
DANTOM plonkr mustive bin online alday presing the thumsdown sad git
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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So much for the police being public servents. That cop needs to be taken off the street, who knows what he'll do next.
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1dantom 1 month ago 6
jus logof an logon an tic th thum up or thum downwaze then kepe doingg it cos dantom badcop farmboy dus it ol th tim hezajoke
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
@tomsbumboy Are you retarded?
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rowancboi17 1 month ago
* two cops have been accused of assaulting a suspect in a police cell until he confessed the two cops are accused of repeatedly spitting threatening and aiming punches at him they have been placed on light duties its alleged one cop searched him and took £1400 from his pocket trial for perverting the course of justice antthr feckin whitwash cumn up *
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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brudda from da hood pml
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
feel like i spent 40 years in the desert see what this not so united kingdom has become a pale horse is emerging , and those that had the audacity to doubt my claims where are they now ? look back a year to a year and a half eveything i prophesised has come true , the numerous spook aliases tried to sabatage the good word , i pradicted all the events now i say prepare for the return of the olympians
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Cell-shove officer wins job back
A police officer who was sacked by his force after being jailed for throwing a woman on to a concrete cell floor wins his job back.
The director of public prosecutions has expressed his concern at the collapse of Britain's biggest trial involving former police officers - after a judge ruled they could not get a fair hearing
ere we feckin go again
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1dantom 1 month ago
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ur gon toby lokt up harwood wiv a blak nob up yoor rektm plenty times per day
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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Fuckin' narcs, pigs and wankers. Those pigs should be shot to pieces. Let the 60's gangsters be reborn and none of this would ever happen!!
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1dantom 1 month ago
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@1dantom
dantom an constbl pc harwood same peeple
tomsbumboy 1 month ago
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They were making an example out of this guy instead of going full force at the mob & getting beaten like an anorexic school girl !& the fat shit retard didn't even hurried to get away!
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Blair Peach
Harry Stanley
Richard O'Brien
Charles De Menezes
Victims of police brutality. Justice for all.
J122COCK 2 months ago
@Starman117 That maybe the case and I understand where you are coming from. But if I was in the polices shoes and I seen someone like Him walking slowly like in the video in front of me, I would think He's trying to provoke the squad when trying to do their job. If someone was walking slow at that pace in front of you then surely you would think somethings odd.
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@GreyGooseDon Firstly he was walking away from the officers ad there is no law of "provoking the police" by walking down a street. He had committed no offence, there was no intelligence to say he had. The Police are supposed to be professional & if someone walking slow causes them to engage in criminal acts of violence they are in the wrong job. Lets remember the officer in his evidence has lied & lied to cover his actions. No the law is the law, indiscriminate violence is simply unacceptable.
bannon1000 2 months ago 2
@GreyGooseDon Something odd doesn't mean he's trying to piss me off, it might mean he's ill. In fact that's what it did mean he was very ill and died because of it. And what happened after they pushed him over? They stopped so he didn't get in the way they never intended to go any further,
Starman117 1 month ago
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dantom haz lods of alise but the real wan iz pc simon harewood
tomsbumboy 2 months ago
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The UK Police are thugs. Paid thugs. They are not on our side. They will do anything they are told to do; all they care about is their pay.
The Home Office orders the police to provoke and abuse demonstrators.
capturedpilot 2 months ago
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@capturedpilot " The Home Office orders the police to provoke and abuse demonstrators," .... very true comment. This is pretty universal world wide. The only format they allow is protest, and then once together, they use brutality on the masses and snatch ring leaders to face charges of affray, which is a serious charge.Also they gain much intelligence for their files.
AMORANTORI 2 months ago
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dantom haz lods ov alises but the real wan iz pc simon harewood
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1dantom 2 months ago 6
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@1dantom " Not about pointless little spotty oiks voicing their disatisfaction with authority in general.
My mistake!," should we send our comments for your approval, so you can peruse them and discern their validity to topic. Listen, on the streets you may have guns, tasors and handcuffs for bullying us into conformity, but on here, you have to do it with facts and I.Q. ... this is why you whine, a level playing field for once.
AMORANTORI 2 months ago
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@1dantom No its about the criminals in uniform called Police.....the same people one of the country's most senior judges called "Institutionally racist".......the same people that run people over and get charged with dangerous driving like the Mersey side officer 2 weeks ago....Institutionally racist....according to a senior high court judge.....
bannon1000 2 months ago 2
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dantom haz lods ov alises but the real wan iz pc simon harewood
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1dantom 2 months ago 6
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@1dantom Is that your best? ha ha ha ha ha.........No they should not be paid more....One should never pay for corruption. And frankly i have never come across such a shallow, uneducated idiot that brings nothing but insults and cheap shots....It says everything about you, which is not very much.
bannon1000 2 months ago
@1dantom too true
dannymaclure1 2 months ago
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@dannymaclure1 this thread was going a bit quiet, I prayed either somebody pro-police or an arse hole would appear, then you showed up and filled both requisites.
AMORANTORI 2 months ago
@AMORANTORI trololololol
dannymaclure1 2 months ago
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@AMORANTORI Full of arseholes atm mate, looks like most of the decent people have left, I should probs join them.
Starman117 1 month ago
I think you will find that bannon1000 IS starman 117. strike me down if i am wrong. What a tosser!!
1dantom 2 months ago
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@1dantom "I think you will find that bannon1000 IS starman 117. strike me down if i am wrong. What a tosser!! "
ketels an teepots becos ur constabul simon harewood the killer
tomsbumboy 2 months ago
@1dantom *Strikes you down* and hopefully you won't become more powerful than I can possibly imagine. Amazingly Dantom most people have a problem with innocent people being killed. Hard to grasp i know but true so it's very likely more than one person will disagree with you..
Starman117 1 month ago
@Starman117 you missed the point completely; then thats you; filling this page with your ramblings. The death of Ian Tomlinson is rightly being looked at through the judicial system. My problem lies with the fools who hijack his case to complain about authority in general. And people with multi IDs (ring any bells?)
1dantom 1 month ago 4
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@1dantom So that's how you try and win arguments by making false accusations against your opponents? I know you like to think saying the same thing over and over again makes it true but trust me it really doesn't. As for authority in general, how has the system treated this case? They've had to be dragged kicking and screaming into prosecuting him, it was even harder to get the truth about what happened in the first place. This case is everything wrong with the police and CPS in microcosm.
Starman117 1 month ago
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@1dantom Ps read the police Blog Inspector gadget if you dare, it has a readrship of about 25% of the force and they don't think they did anything wrong here, They don't even think there should be a trial. Just a small problem if at least that many police think that, don't you agree?
Starman117 1 month ago
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@1dantom Pps I just found an old message in my inbox telling me that you have multiple ID's badcop.
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1dantom 1 month ago 7
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@1dantom You're paranoid badcop999. Trying to use false ad honims against your opponents doesn't help you win arguments. Btw to use your words against you again, no evidence so shoosh. A good phrase that, you should have been more careful about using it.
Starman117 1 month ago
all this debating, gets you nowhere, this is what the state encourages, while it negoiates using violence, and violence sparing litle or nothing.
AMORANTORI 2 months ago
wot r u smokn mate ? pls hand it rounde
tomsbumboy 2 months ago
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aka kiler p.c. simon harewood
tomsbumboy 2 months ago
Waiting for the punchline Mr twat! Whats your point!?
1dantom 2 months ago
Tomlinson is a dumb fuck! If there were 35 police officers walking behind me, i would in no way just casually walk around with them, you would get the fuuuuck out of there!
SuperKwestionMark 2 months ago
@SuperKwestionMark And then they'd nick you assuming you had soemthing to hide.
Starman117 2 months ago
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The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime. Max Stirner.
AMORANTORI 2 months ago
I thought our police in this country were better than this. Shame on them all involved here.
Come on British Police don't become another America yelling about our pseudo freedoms while 'the man' rules with an iron fist.
simblack72 3 months ago
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Ya think? you brits are such twats.
IauthenticI 2 months ago
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the only thing that makes me happy is bleeding cops, in a perfect word i would fucking shoot every since corrupt fucking dirty cop out there for the pain and misery they cause communities everywhere. Police aren't your friend, they're a gang
PremiumGaming 3 months ago 2
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@PremiumGaming errr...evidence please! ENLIGHTEN US WITH OUR "WISDOM" uNTIL THEN....SHOOOOOSH!
1dantom 3 months ago
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@1dantom Evidence for what? You're making no sense. My point is basically FUCK THE POLICE
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@1dantom
u stil ere you fekin tosser
tomsbumboy 3 months ago
@tomsbumboy yes edwina aka mensamember etc welcome back; all of you!
1dantom 3 months ago
Mr. Hardwood had certainly committed a common assault but it is difficult to imagine that such a so-called 'blunt force trauma', which seems in fact nothing more than a push, had caused Mr Tomlonson to die of massive internal bleeding. Dr. Cary's evidence given at the inquest is probably more credential than Dr. Patel's initial postmortem report on Ian Tomlinson but there is no apparent causal link between the assault and possible internal rupture which may have caused abdominal haemorrhage.
MrPrivity 3 months ago
@MrPrivity Three doctors say this is what killed him, the one who didn't has been struck off for malpractice after ruling a woman found dead covered in knife wounds and bites had died of natural causes.
Starman117 2 months ago
@MrPrivity Go fuck yourself.
If I pushed you randomly on the street and you died of the same cause I would get charged for manslaughter if I'm freaking lucky.
El1juh 2 months ago 2
@MrPrivity You're right! His blood vessels were probably bound to rupture at any minute. Despite assaulting a man from behind, with his hands in his pocket, it is clearly absurd to suggest that this caused the internal bleeding reported...
EssentialOption 2 months ago 6
@EssentialOption Tough, he might have been on his last legs but that's no excuse for finishing him off.
Starman117 2 months ago
@Starman117 Sorry, sarcasm is very hard to convey in text. Obviously, despite his health, PC Harwood ultimately killed this man - and as such should be charged.
EssentialOption 2 months ago
@EssentialOption Sorry, my bad, good for you.
Starman117 2 months ago
how horrid, poor guy D:
08CJ11 3 months ago
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this pisses me off, the fucking pig was cleared of manslaughter. i hope someone shoots the cunt
YTPEXPERT 3 months ago
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look at those pig cunts thinking they are hard....we will burn you motherfuckers down if you push us any further..remember how u lost during the august riots u pussy pig fucks
viralfunnies 3 months ago
@viralfunnies Lost? Is that why 1500 retards are now in prison? What would have happened if the police had won then?
Obain 3 months ago 8
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@Obain what 1500? where? they didn't catch shit...even if true that is a tiny percentage of everyone who was rioting...I fucking loved the riots, hope they happen again soon
viralfunnies 3 months ago
@viralfunnies Trololololol
Obain 3 months ago
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@Obain nope no trolling honest opinion..I fucking hate the government, the expense fiddling MPs, politicians, the 'I failed at life so I became a police officer to gain some power' police cunts, who are very racist btw, and right wing fuckends like urself...every rioter in August was a soldier of revolution
viralfunnies 3 months ago
@viralfunnies I find its more likely to be 'I failed at life so I became a criminal or a troll on the internet'.
Obain 3 months ago
@Obain no mate at work busy busy
viralfunnies 3 months ago
@Obain 1500 out of how many? Plus the fact that the polcie couldn't do shit to stop them and only caught them afterwards. I wouldn't say lost but they didn't win.
Starman117 2 months ago
@Starman117 3 days of mass shoplifting.. and now everythings been normal for months. In fact robbery has gone down as much as 50% in some places due to all the idiots who put themselves in klink for a few years. If it was so easy it would still be going on now!
Obain 2 months ago
@Obain The riots are not still going on because people don't want them so, nothing more, the police police with our consent, wen we say not they are useless, that's largely a good thing, look here for example there are a dozen cops think that would have happened to them if the protesters had taken issue with this, the same thing that happened when the protesters took issue with coppers acting like twats in Tottenham.
Starman117 2 months ago
@Starman117 The police police with the consent of the majority. 3,000 shoplifters and general council estate scumbags are not the majority.
Obain 2 months ago
@Obain No they are not the majority (your description of them is completely wrong btw) but it does show just how much of a majority is needed.
Starman117 2 months ago
@Starman117 My description is wrong actually, allow me to amend it.
No hope drug dealing, criminal underclass, sub-human, moral blanks. Thats a bit closer. And considering the country has 70 million people living in it I think we can see where the majority is. Once you have 46 million people agreeing with you get back to me.
Obain 2 months ago
@Obain No still wrong description, I'll leave that though you must be used to it by now. Where did you get 46 million from? And you cannot deny the fact that a mere 3000 people ran rings around 150,000 plus police for 3 days. See what I mean the second any large group says no to the police they're useless.
Starman117 2 months ago
@Starman117 46 million is half the population of the UK, numbnuts. As for the police - considering prisons are full to bursting they do a pretty sterling job.
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@Obain
wen did uk pop becom 92 mill ? wev ol bin asleepe we mus b all numnuts then
tomsbumboy 2 months ago
@Obain Half of 70 million is 46 million?? Half of 70 million is 35 million. And you know what it's not difficult to fill your prisons, our lot have managed it and they couldn't stop a measly 3 thousand rioters. The police outnumbered the rioters more than 50 to one.
Starman117 2 months ago
He was walking stupidly fucking slow.....
millsy1804 3 months ago
@millsy1804 Yeah he was, because cuntface in the vid had hit him round the leg with his baton.
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who cares if he died, he was disabled anyway, we dont need disabled people in the world, im glad he fucking died, he deserved it
LordPipweed 3 months ago