Oh please. History proves Bush to be dumb. He was a drunk into his 40s. Then he became president and succeeded in doing one thing: fucking this place up. I love Hitch, but he's wrong on this one.
Bill Mayer called Sarah Palin a CUNT. So lets play by Obamas same rules here. Bill Mayer you are a disgrace and should turn off your sponsors and say you are sorry and be a man like
Rush. What say ye now about this fellow who just gave the President 1 million? Play by the same rules!
gosh im so tired of this idiot Maher. He needs to gtfo off HBO and just take is money and his drugs and just bake, cuz that's all he's good for. Meanwhile we lost Christopher Hitchens, a great man of our time, and this scumbag gets away with all these insults? God bless Christopher Hitchens. I know he wasn't a believer but fucking God bless him. I miss him already.
I love Bill Maher, but I do agree with Hitchens. George Bush was, in my opinion an horrible leader, but he was no way an idiot. Although he may have done some stupid things, we all do them. its called being human. Anyone who graduates from harvard is smart.
@artandscience13 he never graduated from Harvard, he went to Yale thanks to his o BTW daddy who was president, and his family has held positions in politics since the 1800's ,once you realize all that , then you can see how much easier it can be to get by not on intelligence but by the sheer fact your family "is" the establishment
True. However, Bush only played his ignorant religious role on TV in order to get the mindless approval of retarded rednecks across the nation. His measured IQ is somewhere around 120, and while that is certainly not genius level, it's still significantly above average. It's probably a little higher than the average IQ of Maher's audience.
@eurozone69 Exactly why I dont like hitchens, for such a "smart" person he claims to be yet he acts like bush earned his way to the presidency, theres something weird about him dawkins & all these others that pretty much insult you for not believeing what they do yet critizize religion for the same .
Sometimes a cigar is really a cigar.... And sometimes Bill Maher invites real intellectuals onto his show in order to try to validate his own pseudo-intellectualism.
I never justifyd terrorism, and if yu re-read my comment about it, u'd see that i said if you were a civilian in a war zone, get the hell outta the way, or you stand a chance of being forcefully used. I never blamed civilians. I justifyd RETALIATION TO TERRORISM WITH TERRORISM YES, BUT AGAINST THOSE WHOM TERRORIZE US, PERIOD. and do tell what terrorst actions the US is doing in s.america. I supposed your gonna blame the cartels, and kidnappings of US citizens on our own kind too?...get off it.
Wrecked! Finally someone who comes on the show and points out that Bill's entire ruse is pandering to an audience that thinks they're better than everyone else.
I'm curious also, as to what country you are from?...to make such bold accusations of my country?..i'm not goin off on an rant here..(luv Dennis Miller)...and this IS about christopher Hutchins...and bill mahers nitwit audiences....after all.
Do you think we were wrong for invading pakistany land to take out bin laden? Hey i'm a peacekeeper first and foremost, but also old school hardliner when it comes to any kind of aggression towards my own,..also, what's the holocost have to do with todays aggressions?..other then the genocide in african countries, (which misuse our funding and aid)?..i think you missinterpreted my view towards justifying terrorist actions. Is not Lybia right now going thru terrorist actions?
I would have liked to have heard this entire episode. It would be nice to see this entire discussion from start to finish. In spite of what Christopher Hitchens says in this, I believe Bill Maher to be very intelligent, and would have liked to hear how such a discussion between these two turned out....
The 911 retaliation was certainly justifyd, yet took too long, and personally, i'd a retalited by making iraq a parking lot of a few cities,..just to show the world enough is enough, radical to you i'm sure,..but where's it gonna stop?..how do you stop it (aggression by radicals, particularly the muslims) and still maintain your stature in the world as one that welcomes all whom come to it?
Never said you could trust government, as at 50, i've been around long enough to know, and having served 6 yrs in the army as well, to NOT trust government as a whole. I still beleive in our constitution, and haven't used it per say on an individuall basis for personal gain. Led mostly a law-abiding life, but tired of media driven, and personal gain driven americans just using for personal gains, and seeing facts twisted in relations to conflicts & politics.
Civilians in most cases are used as shields by terrorist countries, cowards that they are, and civilians are used as well, to bring anarchy, chaos to our lands, to our troops, etc,..vietnam, and the afgan wars have proven it, so like i said, all bets are off. If your a civilian in a war torn country, wake up n smell the coffee, YOU TOO can be a target, accidental or otherwise. Get out of the way!
I dont justify 'terrorist' actions, and the US doesn't 'terrorize' anyone,..if anything we've been for the most part,..reactionary, defending our own, as well as others. In t his day and age you can almost throw out our constitution, at least in this country, as the pc liberals have shredded it for nothing other than self-gains, as in loop-holes in everything, when it was essentially written as a 'black n white' set of laws. That's more abuse than anything. ...
@northpoint43m Sir, you are justifying terrorism when you say all bets are off while at war and that civilians have themselves to blame. Read my prior post. Dude that's a lie, off course the US terrorize people. Do I really have go through all the terrorists that the US has in one way or the other supported. Your actions in S.America for example. How have liberals Shredded the Constitution. It's religious conservatives for example that try to turn the US to pseudo-theocracy, and succeeded.
Can we really trust anyone foreign, third world radical types that slam the US, and talk tough ?
N. Korea?..Iran?..with nukes?....like i said, its a catch-22, damned if you do /don't. But to ask the 'free world' to just sit back and watch the fanatics go off just can't happen, lessons learned from both world wars, and 911. We had chances to take Bin Laden out in the nineties and didn't do it, and look what happened. Good discussion Giantus, i respect your opinions no problem..
@northpoint43m I admire the US Constitution, but can the rest of the world trust the US ? I love US culture but the world cannot trust the US either. You have plenty of radical types, hell some might even become president. But yes these countries threaten a country or two (S-korea and Israel respectively) but so these countries. Israel is currently saber rattling like no other, and have no qualms about arming a country such as apartheid S.Africa with nukes or blowing up scientists (terrorism)
I'm a fair fan of Hitchens per say, having his columns in my paper here in chicago, but he's also a dolt at times too, as we all are. It was good to see someone tell Maher & his audience their a bunch of morons, & Maher certainly plays to them with simplistic references, especially with favorites that he doesn't like, (BUSH). When Maher first started appearing on HBO, i was hoping for more like Dennis Miller commentary, & a more intelligent audience like Miller's, whom i dig, ...didn't happen.
I'm all for BIG BROTHER by the way when it comes to protecting me, and for those whom talk infringement of privacy, etc, they can kiss my @^%$#, i don't want another 911, and if i'm a good citizen, i got nothing to hide, nor worry about. So i say do what you have to do, and you really think the US wants another war?..after having it thrust upon us?..after it help sink our economy?..doubtful. Iran, and half the MUSLIM world have it in their heads that their secular religion is IT, ..not us.
@northpoint43m You know what I like about the US constitution ? The fact that acknodleges that you cannot trust Goverment/Big brother completely. The issue isn't necessarily whether or not you have something to hide, more so is the risk of abuse. The constitution gives you the right to bear arms to protect you from tyrannical government, good luck resisting a government that knows you every step. Might as well scrap the second amendment.
@Giagantus...no offense taken, and i do understand your point, and you DO have one, tho i'd more put it like a CATCH-22 when it comes to my country. While we're certainly not innocent, most don't understand THAT PHRASE, especially when it comes to security, war, foreign affairs, etc. In war, all bets are off, period, regardless what this PC, liberalist thinking, me me me world thinks, as most won't even consider sticking up for their country by entering service, security?, do what you have to do
@northpoint43m So with other words you are now justifying terrorist actions ? Because for example AQ considers itself at war. And it considers civilians viable targets (after all you just said in war all bets are off). With other words your're saying 9/11 was justfied (the Holocaus as well). The issue is that IRAQ was never a threat to the US (two weeks to defeat them). Why stand up for a country that lies to you and claims to protect while she does the opposite ? Not civilized behavior IMO
Hey gigantus,..its easy to name about thirty other countries that have done the same things that u accuse americans of,...including (since yu spelled it SHYTE (it's shit here in america) IRELAND (english cop & soldier killers), and ENGLAND (various factions both protestant and catholic)...so get off your high horse, We that are NOT bill maher fans, per say, but viewers with an interest in our country, and world affairs, don't ALL act like the morons whom attend his shows.
@northpoint43m I was adressing C-Hitchens comments comcerning IRAN. If Iran wants a third world war because of acts of named members in goverment so does the US. But I am not claming the US is unique in such acts. Second of all the US claims to be the "good guys" but act like the "bad guys". US talk of terrorism for instance is bullshit since you sponsor it all the time (contras), hell the KKK had carte blanche for decades and they are clearly a terror-group. So US policy is BS at best.
@northpoint43m OH yeah I spelt shit as shyt (not shyte) intentionally it's a long story why. I do not reside in the US my friend so how you spell it matters little to me (your hardly the only English speaking country in the world, so get off your high horse). And yes English is my third or fourth language. I dislike US double speak and hypocrisy not US culture or Americans (well I have issues with the intolerant and racist fanatics though). I hope I don't sound too harsh/unfriendly :)
Named members of various US goverments have created (directly or indirectly) and funded death squads. The Contras in latin america for example. Henry kissinger and others did similiar shyt in Chile for instance So the US has histically speaking done alot of bad things maybe even worse than the current Iranian Govermnet, despicable as it may be
Dubya himself has trouble coming up with 5 George Bush jokes per night & he's not only a pretty funny man off camera he's obviously got access to the best material every morning when his butler cum manservant shaves him.
By the way his manservant's name is 'FRIDAY' funnily enough.
That's just his nickname tho as his full name is "MONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY (Friday) SATURDAY & TWICE ON SUNDAY'S AFTER CHURCH' but that was a bit of a mouthful (Snicker) so he shortened it to 'FRIDAY' Folks.
@TheShootTruth10 and if someone from the middle east said that about the west we would call him a terrorist. I'm sure ur trolling but that doesn't make your mindset any better.
very valid point by hitchens about the inane criticism of Bush's intelligence. people love doing it to make themselves feel better, but the reality is you don't become president by being stupid. glad someone has the courage to tell it like it is to this smug rabble
@AgnesSteinberg Too bad he stood at a podium and said..uh..uhh..uuuhhhhh for ten minutes and finally said I dont know! Thats as STUPID AS YOU CAN GET!!! AND THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN NORMAL..FAIL
@AgnesSteinbergthis is the only time Hitchens sounds like an idiot. 1) he never said Iran will wipe Israel off the map 2) most of the world hates America because of what they do all over the world - the us actually started illegal wars against countries - this is no reason to attack Iran 3) Iraq/afghan wars have cost 4 billion - the only reason we went was because of the military industrial complex and big oil speculators 4) bush was a c minus student who tucked up everything he ever touched ect
@AgnesSteinberg Exactly you get it when your daddy hands it to you. Christopher Hitchens was a Moron someone who acted so smart & above everyone but coundnt figure out that cigarettes & drinking were going to kill him?
@j2mfp78 That has to be the most incredibly stupid point i've ever read. Smoking and drinking doesn't equate to a lack of intelligence. Knowing the consequences of your actions also doesn't equate to a higher level of intelligence.I am sure as for Christopher Hitchens smoking for many people of his generation was done because it was considered cool and rebellious and the scientific knowledge about it didn't exist. You are painting a brush based on common knowledge today not what was back in 1970
@EnvisionFilms I'm sorry it doesnt take a genius to figure out cigarettes & alcohol arent good for you, so he's suppose to convince me theres no god with his intelect but he didnt know cigarettes were bad because there wasnt studies done on it yet?
@j2mfp78 Ok show me a video or some form of evidence to support your accusation that he didn't know they were bad for him?. Because i've never seen him make such a claim. I am pretty sure he knew they are bad but did them anyway because like everyone else in the world he had the right to make that choice. It sounds a bit like you are so anti Hitchens you are looking for any excuse to not agree with him because you can't hold fault with his actual words so you need to attack his character.
@EnvisionFilms Your actually making my point. He understood it but did it anyway? Well why couldnt he understand peoples beliefs in religion or whatever weather science proves something or not we all make our choices he seemed just as dogmatic as the religions he condems.
@j2mfp78 Massive difference between cigarettes and religion, his issue with Religion and in fact the issue with religion is that it renders a totalitarian regime and total control over the masses as seen by the pope and theocracies in African nations which completely negates democracy and liberty. You're the one who's the non-intellect that can't establish a difference between religion and a cigarette. Shame on you.
@MrShakespere You do what most others do when talkin about the subject, you blame an outside source instead of the humans doing it. Its not religion that corrupts, or money or science ,its the people who choose to be that way its like sayin since one guy cant handle alcohol no one can drink now. p.s. I never said I was an intellect (you obviously think you are with that name though) anyways keep defending your cult hero.
@j2mfp78 Okay so now I apply the difference between cigarettes and religion to alcohol and religion. You're using what's known as circular reasoning. It's a logical fallacy by the way.
@MrShakespere Well then why didnt you reply to what I wrote instead of avoiding it with your silly comments.. Look up cognitive dissonance smart guy it seems to fit you perfectly.
I don't get all of the hatred Maher's getting in this comment section. Maher had a very nice tribute to Hitchens on the current season's premiere episode, and even had Hitchens on his show after this incident. Maher clearly enjoyed having Hitchens around, and valued what he had to say. From what I can tell, Hitchens liked Maher fairly well too.
@MrRaspberryBeret "[Wherever] a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi [Fascist], a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'adviser' or leader; in Cuba [it was] [Jesuit-trained] Castro's 'Father' Armando Llorente..."
Emanuel M. Josephson (American physician and historian)
@MrRaspberryBeret "Above all things, Jesuits are 'confessors'. Their services unto the royalty were urged as a 'need', as they became assigned to hear the confessions of the aristocrats, emperors, kings, queens, princes, princesses, ['royal'] mistresses, those in every level of government -- they all revealed their secret plans, their intimate sins, their inner-most thoughts, as their lives became virtually an open book to the Jesuits.
@MrRaspberryBeret "In the agreement to rescue Rome [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church's hierarchy] from the predicament of losing its world control to Protestantism, and to preserve the spiritual and temporal supremacy which the popes [had] 'usurped' during the Middle Ages, Rome now 'sold' the [Roman Catholic] Church to the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]; in essence the popes surrendered themselves into their hands."
@MrRaspberryBeret "Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, as far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the [Roman] Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the [Nazi] Party.
Geeez...what is that thing hanging from the the middle of mayer's face? A trunk? That nasal flap is enormous. When mayer puts his head back, he looks like a frickin two car garage. Can a nose get any bigger?
Hitchin's mind is always very difficult if not impossible to beat. He was brave and courageous beyond belief and expressed his self confidence all the time. His thinking was almost always correct and portrayed justice.
@BrotherAtticus they are audience for a reason. They come there because they like him. Same could and should be said for Bill O'Reilley, Justin Bieber or any group or individual. They are there because they are allready on the same page with their entertainers.
Hitchens should have reigned in his hyperbole. Clearly his target audience was the most intelligent, and given the distribution of IQ I would bet just about anything that there was at least one person in the audience who had an IQ higher than Bush, if not 5 (though I don't know the size of the audience itself. There is a difference between "calling it like you see it" and saying deliberately provocative things just to piss people off.
Maher is too obtuse to realize his own all too obvious dull wit.....Bush was a statesman with 30 IQ points on the present occupant.....Hitchens merely points out the lemming status of Maher's equally dull witted minions....
@gorillaonrye what the hell are you talking about? i can't stand the islamophobic, mainstream democrat propagandist piece of trash called bill maher anymore then the next man, but to call him "dull witted", is just ridiculous. as much as i hate to admit it, the guy is brilliant. and while i agree that obama is a blithering moron, so the hell was george bush. 30 IQ points higher? with what evidence?
Well said. Bush was just the punching bag of America's slack-jawed idiots. Not to say that what Bush accomplished in office was all that great, but the whole thing about questioning the man's intelligence was funny at first, obnoxious after a little while.
Hitchens is right in that the level of crudeness that such jokes evolved into makes the joke no longer insightful or poignant, but as vulgar as the culture of Bush-bashing became, the reason for its success was the public's recognition of the truth behind the exaggeration: the man had not the level of either intelligence or competence we expect from the nominal leader of the free world.
A spade is still a spade, despite cruder descriptions.
@gorillaonrye "All these things cause the Father-General [of the Jesuits] to be feared by the Pope and sovereigns... A sovereign who is not their [the Jesuits'] friend will sooner or later experience their vengeance." (1852)
Luigi Desanctis (Official Censor of the Inquisition)
@gorillaonrye ...Wherever a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi, a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'advisor' or leader; in [Communist] Cuba Fr. Armando Llorente and in Argentina the neo-Nazis are led by Fr. Menvieille."
@gorillaonrye "[Jesuit-trained Illuminist Adam] Weishaupt's success in forcing the Vatican to reestablish the abolished Jesuit Order [Ed. Note: it had been abolished in 1773 by Pope Clement XIV], through revival of the Church's original Nazarene Communism in the form of present-day Communism, led to the conspiracy's control by the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]...
Bill Maher is ultimately a comedian which tackles the easy to reach issues on the surface, continually grabbing at arguments which don't require a huge amount of critical thinking, but have huge followings. His controversy comes from his militant attitude towards these pretty basic ideas (atheism, stupid presidents), whereas Hitchens comes from not only his attitude, but the fact that his ideas are much more comprehensive, less mainstream and more profound.
@inertiaMS Thank you for saying this. I've been watching a few of Bill Maher's videos and just feel like he's only licking the top of the iceberg. It really makes me miss Bill Hicks and George Carlin. Now I have to see everything Hitchens has done.
I'm sorry Hitchens but I'm smarter than the president even if he and the military industrial complex has denied me information and encouraged my ignorance about my security in the name of maintaining my security. However its incredibly revealing that I've decided to debate a man that can no longer communicate his positions in any capacity. Yet I'm still smarter than George W. Bush. Its not the man I'm debating but the idea.
I like Bill Maher but, I think one point that Christopher is making is that we need to look at how we respond to problems. Repeatedly calling the president of the U.S. an idiot in various and creative ways is counterproductive to rational discussion. It creates an emotional divide that serves only as a distraction from the real issues. We must remember though, that such an approach is normally not funny and Mayer's ratings would plummet. Bill Mayer is first and foremost a comedian.
@dnsmithnc i really hope ya'll don't think that Bill Mahar is doing anything other than delivering eyeballs to his advertisers. that is his job ... his ONLY job.he does this in the same way all the other mass media platforms do by appealing to the lowest common denominator. Bill's gag also includes heavy doses of "i'n part of the cool kids cuz i'm in on the joke and the ever popular we are all smarter than everyone else that, unsurprisingly, everyone uses.
@dnsmithnc exactly, couldn't agree more. He makes great points, such as in Religulous, but he's really out of his element sometimes which makes him look cynical
@dnsmithnc Maher is not foremost a comedian, though. He is foremost a pundit, that is people tune into his show to hear his cleverly articulated political opinions, in exactly the same way people tune into fox news. It isn't news, but it isn't comedy either. Maher very frequently gets serious and retains the audience's full interest and attention, he is only inhibitted from saying anything intelligent or honest. You can still say that's his job, but the point is he has no integrity.
@dnsmithnc We should also remember Hitchins is a warmongering chickenhawk coward who promotes zionist agenda and has been exposed many times as decietful. Look at the lies he said about Iran which never said it would wipe Israel of the map a miss translation exposed by the number of Jews living in Iran. Google operation Ajax and read confessions of an economic hitman. Stopp WW3 vote Ron Paul end the wars and stop the insanity
Hitchens was taking it pretty easy on Maher and still Maher kept blundering like the oaf he is. Incredibly stupid to go up against Hitchens with so unprepared. But then again, Maher makes Bush look like Stephen Hawkings on a ginko biloba drip.
Sometimes I think Bill Maher even gets annoyed at is audience. I've seen moments where he makes a joke or an anti-Republican comment, starts going into another joke or comment, and gets cut off by sudden audience cheers, and he gets this "Oh Please Shut The Fuck Up!" look on his face.
"None of whom IS smarter than the president" - the late mr hitchens spoke un-grammatically , where the word none is singular. He also spoke without evidence- any audience member who read a daily paper was without doubt better-informed than the president. w was not then and never had been a reader of any major daily - his own admission. And he owned a major league ball team. Think if you owned a nag, you'd buy the damn racing form? Hitchens, a sad loss - well before he died.
Funny now that Bush is gone and Obama is in,Maher is all for bombing Iran. Maher is a fool who makes jokes to hide his ignorance,or when he cant answer/articulate himself.Look up Michael Scheur making a fool of him on the Iran/Israel issue.
@frother Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
I'm not a hardcore conservative tea party member, but I cannot STAND bill maher. he's an obnoxious tool. he's the left equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Hitchens was a respectable intellectual. I say that as a pious Christian. He was the one new atheist i respected.
@mrsayoose And I imagine your comments in an accent of a knuckle dragging Neanderthal. Judging by your simple responses, I take it that I'm being quite accurate?
this is so amazing. i don't agree with hitchens about the war but he makes such a good point about people, maher and his audience. just because you're a part of the 'liberal left' does not make you intelligent or any less susceptible to following the crowd. when they booed the second time, i couldn't believe it. so pathetic.
I think time has proven Christopher Hitchens entirely wrong on the Iraq War issue, which he was so passionately for just because of his generally racist hatred of the Muslim culture. But he used the presence of Al-Qaeda members who came in AFTER the invasion as somehow justification that there really WAS a terrorist threat as if they'd been there the whole time and when called out on it, he just responded so childishly. Maher's audience can be really rude but this was not an instance of such.
That's what I loved about Hitchens. He was left-leaning, but he wasn't like all these stereotypical liberals who all agree with eachother and pat themselves on the back. I was personally against the war in Iraq, I'm not a liberal or leftist, and Hitchens was a great free-thinker and this sequence demonstrates his intellectual honesty. I agree with him here, and he was right about not always following the liberal point of view on every subject. He was a free man, not a sheep.
Well they are booing about something Hitchens was completely WRONG about.
I like Hitchens actually. But he was dead wrong about throwing his weight behind the war criminals of the Dubya gang, just as he's dead wrong about feminism. And in this case he was rightly boo'd.
Mind you I respect Hitchens more then Maher. Maher is an antivax kook and supports SOPA and PIPA.
Bush was is and will always be a fucking moron. Sorry Hitchens hitched his wagon to the most idiotic President we have had since Taft but it's true. This will always be the albatross around Hitchens neck, his hate for organized religion (a hate I share with him) and especially militant Islam blinded him to Bush and more importantly the people around Bush (Cheney Rummy Wolfy etc) and what total lying scum they all were. He was wrong, it happens to everyone, he was wrong
Nice edit. This was one of the things that Hitchens got incredibly WRONG, his support for the Bush administrations bullshit war and their bullshit reasons for starting it has been the biggest nightmare for Hitchens career no matter if he wanted to admit it or not. He hates organized religion as I do and he especially hates Muslim extremists like I do, his problem is who he aligned himself with when it came to publicly taking a stand. He aligned himself with fundamentalist Christians MISTAKE.
I would like to have seen Maher's response to Hitchen's comments. I get the feeling that Maher wasn't really as insulted as the video is trying to show.
I've always thought that Maher was THE MOST OBNOXIOUS comedian and liberal out there. He's the liberal equivalent to Rush Limbaugh. Thank God for Christopher Hitchens.
@dgriff18 I believe he's stating that Bush looks stupid, and is- as opposed to others who'd say he acts stupid (which is pretty objective) although is a very smart man beneath.
@hightechjunkieva I miss Christopher Hitchens. There aren't enough smart people in the world. Sadly he died not long ago. He is an author and made a living from being intelligent.
Oh please. History proves Bush to be dumb. He was a drunk into his 40s. Then he became president and succeeded in doing one thing: fucking this place up. I love Hitch, but he's wrong on this one.
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Bill Mayer called Sarah Palin a CUNT. So lets play by Obamas same rules here. Bill Mayer you are a disgrace and should turn off your sponsors and say you are sorry and be a man like
Rush. What say ye now about this fellow who just gave the President 1 million? Play by the same rules!
Theloveshow60to70 4 hours ago
Without Hitchens, the world is such a shittier place.
oneiros666 5 hours ago
Israel wants a Third World War!
asadhonda 22 hours ago
Oh look, Hitchens spouting absolute shit again...
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gosh im so tired of this idiot Maher. He needs to gtfo off HBO and just take is money and his drugs and just bake, cuz that's all he's good for. Meanwhile we lost Christopher Hitchens, a great man of our time, and this scumbag gets away with all these insults? God bless Christopher Hitchens. I know he wasn't a believer but fucking God bless him. I miss him already.
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Sumoto999 3 days ago
I love Bill Maher, but I do agree with Hitchens. George Bush was, in my opinion an horrible leader, but he was no way an idiot. Although he may have done some stupid things, we all do them. its called being human. Anyone who graduates from harvard is smart.
artandscience13 3 days ago
@artandscience13 he never graduated from Harvard, he went to Yale thanks to his o BTW daddy who was president, and his family has held positions in politics since the 1800's ,once you realize all that , then you can see how much easier it can be to get by not on intelligence but by the sheer fact your family "is" the establishment
eurozone69 3 days ago
@eurozone69
True. However, Bush only played his ignorant religious role on TV in order to get the mindless approval of retarded rednecks across the nation. His measured IQ is somewhere around 120, and while that is certainly not genius level, it's still significantly above average. It's probably a little higher than the average IQ of Maher's audience.
VegitoVai90 3 days ago 2
@eurozone69 Exactly why I dont like hitchens, for such a "smart" person he claims to be yet he acts like bush earned his way to the presidency, theres something weird about him dawkins & all these others that pretty much insult you for not believeing what they do yet critizize religion for the same .
j2mfp78 1 hour ago
Sometimes a cigar is really a cigar.... And sometimes Bill Maher invites real intellectuals onto his show in order to try to validate his own pseudo-intellectualism.
DtheS1 4 days ago
bush graduated from yale and harvard.. he is far from stupid
3732334 5 days ago
hahaha
afromime 6 days ago
He has got a very good point, haha.
MartinPurvis 6 days ago
LOL HItchens tore them a new one!!!!
thekidofva 6 days ago
And remember, THIS POST WAS ABOUT HUTCHINS!, AND HIS FLIPPING OFF MAHERS IGNORANT CROWDS.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
I never justifyd terrorism, and if yu re-read my comment about it, u'd see that i said if you were a civilian in a war zone, get the hell outta the way, or you stand a chance of being forcefully used. I never blamed civilians. I justifyd RETALIATION TO TERRORISM WITH TERRORISM YES, BUT AGAINST THOSE WHOM TERRORIZE US, PERIOD. and do tell what terrorst actions the US is doing in s.america. I supposed your gonna blame the cartels, and kidnappings of US citizens on our own kind too?...get off it.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
hitchens calling it like it is :)
Konstiin 1 week ago
Wrecked! Finally someone who comes on the show and points out that Bill's entire ruse is pandering to an audience that thinks they're better than everyone else.
bjlayd61 1 week ago
I'm curious also, as to what country you are from?...to make such bold accusations of my country?..i'm not goin off on an rant here..(luv Dennis Miller)...and this IS about christopher Hutchins...and bill mahers nitwit audiences....after all.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
Do you think we were wrong for invading pakistany land to take out bin laden? Hey i'm a peacekeeper first and foremost, but also old school hardliner when it comes to any kind of aggression towards my own,..also, what's the holocost have to do with todays aggressions?..other then the genocide in african countries, (which misuse our funding and aid)?..i think you missinterpreted my view towards justifying terrorist actions. Is not Lybia right now going thru terrorist actions?
northpoint43m 1 week ago
I would have liked to have heard this entire episode. It would be nice to see this entire discussion from start to finish. In spite of what Christopher Hitchens says in this, I believe Bill Maher to be very intelligent, and would have liked to hear how such a discussion between these two turned out....
darkridr25 1 week ago
The 911 retaliation was certainly justifyd, yet took too long, and personally, i'd a retalited by making iraq a parking lot of a few cities,..just to show the world enough is enough, radical to you i'm sure,..but where's it gonna stop?..how do you stop it (aggression by radicals, particularly the muslims) and still maintain your stature in the world as one that welcomes all whom come to it?
northpoint43m 1 week ago
Never said you could trust government, as at 50, i've been around long enough to know, and having served 6 yrs in the army as well, to NOT trust government as a whole. I still beleive in our constitution, and haven't used it per say on an individuall basis for personal gain. Led mostly a law-abiding life, but tired of media driven, and personal gain driven americans just using for personal gains, and seeing facts twisted in relations to conflicts & politics.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
Civilians in most cases are used as shields by terrorist countries, cowards that they are, and civilians are used as well, to bring anarchy, chaos to our lands, to our troops, etc,..vietnam, and the afgan wars have proven it, so like i said, all bets are off. If your a civilian in a war torn country, wake up n smell the coffee, YOU TOO can be a target, accidental or otherwise. Get out of the way!
northpoint43m 1 week ago
I dont justify 'terrorist' actions, and the US doesn't 'terrorize' anyone,..if anything we've been for the most part,..reactionary, defending our own, as well as others. In t his day and age you can almost throw out our constitution, at least in this country, as the pc liberals have shredded it for nothing other than self-gains, as in loop-holes in everything, when it was essentially written as a 'black n white' set of laws. That's more abuse than anything. ...
northpoint43m 1 week ago
@northpoint43m Sir, you are justifying terrorism when you say all bets are off while at war and that civilians have themselves to blame. Read my prior post. Dude that's a lie, off course the US terrorize people. Do I really have go through all the terrorists that the US has in one way or the other supported. Your actions in S.America for example. How have liberals Shredded the Constitution. It's religious conservatives for example that try to turn the US to pseudo-theocracy, and succeeded.
Giagantus 1 week ago
a new found respect for this man
geoff1424 1 week ago
"come on"........he got straight owned
BigSamMusic 1 week ago
Balls
Schoening91 1 week ago
Can we really trust anyone foreign, third world radical types that slam the US, and talk tough ?
N. Korea?..Iran?..with nukes?....like i said, its a catch-22, damned if you do /don't. But to ask the 'free world' to just sit back and watch the fanatics go off just can't happen, lessons learned from both world wars, and 911. We had chances to take Bin Laden out in the nineties and didn't do it, and look what happened. Good discussion Giantus, i respect your opinions no problem..
northpoint43m 1 week ago
@northpoint43m I admire the US Constitution, but can the rest of the world trust the US ? I love US culture but the world cannot trust the US either. You have plenty of radical types, hell some might even become president. But yes these countries threaten a country or two (S-korea and Israel respectively) but so these countries. Israel is currently saber rattling like no other, and have no qualms about arming a country such as apartheid S.Africa with nukes or blowing up scientists (terrorism)
Giagantus 1 week ago
Masta-Troll. I miss this man.
tompulsar 1 week ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Finally, an atheist who doesn't blindly follow the Liberal ideals like a puppet.
Maher got pwned and all he could retort was "sometimes a cigar is cigar".
All aboard the fail train, Billy, you'll have plenty on there with ya :)
MrTormey 1 week ago
I'm a fair fan of Hitchens per say, having his columns in my paper here in chicago, but he's also a dolt at times too, as we all are. It was good to see someone tell Maher & his audience their a bunch of morons, & Maher certainly plays to them with simplistic references, especially with favorites that he doesn't like, (BUSH). When Maher first started appearing on HBO, i was hoping for more like Dennis Miller commentary, & a more intelligent audience like Miller's, whom i dig, ...didn't happen.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
I'm all for BIG BROTHER by the way when it comes to protecting me, and for those whom talk infringement of privacy, etc, they can kiss my @^%$#, i don't want another 911, and if i'm a good citizen, i got nothing to hide, nor worry about. So i say do what you have to do, and you really think the US wants another war?..after having it thrust upon us?..after it help sink our economy?..doubtful. Iran, and half the MUSLIM world have it in their heads that their secular religion is IT, ..not us.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
@northpoint43m You know what I like about the US constitution ? The fact that acknodleges that you cannot trust Goverment/Big brother completely. The issue isn't necessarily whether or not you have something to hide, more so is the risk of abuse. The constitution gives you the right to bear arms to protect you from tyrannical government, good luck resisting a government that knows you every step. Might as well scrap the second amendment.
Giagantus 1 week ago
@Giagantus...no offense taken, and i do understand your point, and you DO have one, tho i'd more put it like a CATCH-22 when it comes to my country. While we're certainly not innocent, most don't understand THAT PHRASE, especially when it comes to security, war, foreign affairs, etc. In war, all bets are off, period, regardless what this PC, liberalist thinking, me me me world thinks, as most won't even consider sticking up for their country by entering service, security?, do what you have to do
northpoint43m 1 week ago
@northpoint43m So with other words you are now justifying terrorist actions ? Because for example AQ considers itself at war. And it considers civilians viable targets (after all you just said in war all bets are off). With other words your're saying 9/11 was justfied (the Holocaus as well). The issue is that IRAQ was never a threat to the US (two weeks to defeat them). Why stand up for a country that lies to you and claims to protect while she does the opposite ? Not civilized behavior IMO
Giagantus 1 week ago
Hey gigantus,..its easy to name about thirty other countries that have done the same things that u accuse americans of,...including (since yu spelled it SHYTE (it's shit here in america) IRELAND (english cop & soldier killers), and ENGLAND (various factions both protestant and catholic)...so get off your high horse, We that are NOT bill maher fans, per say, but viewers with an interest in our country, and world affairs, don't ALL act like the morons whom attend his shows.
northpoint43m 1 week ago
@northpoint43m I was adressing C-Hitchens comments comcerning IRAN. If Iran wants a third world war because of acts of named members in goverment so does the US. But I am not claming the US is unique in such acts. Second of all the US claims to be the "good guys" but act like the "bad guys". US talk of terrorism for instance is bullshit since you sponsor it all the time (contras), hell the KKK had carte blanche for decades and they are clearly a terror-group. So US policy is BS at best.
Giagantus 1 week ago
@northpoint43m OH yeah I spelt shit as shyt (not shyte) intentionally it's a long story why. I do not reside in the US my friend so how you spell it matters little to me (your hardly the only English speaking country in the world, so get off your high horse). And yes English is my third or fourth language. I dislike US double speak and hypocrisy not US culture or Americans (well I have issues with the intolerant and racist fanatics though). I hope I don't sound too harsh/unfriendly :)
Giagantus 1 week ago
Named members of various US goverments have created (directly or indirectly) and funded death squads. The Contras in latin america for example. Henry kissinger and others did similiar shyt in Chile for instance So the US has histically speaking done alot of bad things maybe even worse than the current Iranian Govermnet, despicable as it may be
Giagantus 1 week ago
Dubya himself has trouble coming up with 5 George Bush jokes per night & he's not only a pretty funny man off camera he's obviously got access to the best material every morning when his butler cum manservant shaves him.
By the way his manservant's name is 'FRIDAY' funnily enough.
That's just his nickname tho as his full name is "MONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY (Friday) SATURDAY & TWICE ON SUNDAY'S AFTER CHURCH' but that was a bit of a mouthful (Snicker) so he shortened it to 'FRIDAY' Folks.
spacelizardlaw 1 week ago
This is what happens when you expect intelligent debate from drunk people.
weejockpoopongmcplop 1 week ago
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feuchtersoft 1 week ago
fuck it. get this over with and take out the middle east completely. when you have cancer you kill it from the source.
TheShootTruth10 1 week ago
@TheShootTruth10 and if someone from the middle east said that about the west we would call him a terrorist. I'm sure ur trolling but that doesn't make your mindset any better.
hypedpotential 1 week ago
THANK YOU
woofuuckimswaggedout 1 week ago
very valid point by hitchens about the inane criticism of Bush's intelligence. people love doing it to make themselves feel better, but the reality is you don't become president by being stupid. glad someone has the courage to tell it like it is to this smug rabble
AgnesSteinberg 1 week ago 37
@AgnesSteinberg youre right, being president has nothing to do with intelligence at all
tehmiff 1 week ago
@AgnesSteinberg Too bad he stood at a podium and said..uh..uhh..uuuhhhhh for ten minutes and finally said I dont know! Thats as STUPID AS YOU CAN GET!!! AND THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN NORMAL..FAIL
d2echronic 6 days ago
@AgnesSteinbergthis is the only time Hitchens sounds like an idiot. 1) he never said Iran will wipe Israel off the map 2) most of the world hates America because of what they do all over the world - the us actually started illegal wars against countries - this is no reason to attack Iran 3) Iraq/afghan wars have cost 4 billion - the only reason we went was because of the military industrial complex and big oil speculators 4) bush was a c minus student who tucked up everything he ever touched ect
ToonFightFan 6 days ago
@AgnesSteinberg Exactly you get it when your daddy hands it to you. Christopher Hitchens was a Moron someone who acted so smart & above everyone but coundnt figure out that cigarettes & drinking were going to kill him?
j2mfp78 5 days ago
@j2mfp78 That has to be the most incredibly stupid point i've ever read. Smoking and drinking doesn't equate to a lack of intelligence. Knowing the consequences of your actions also doesn't equate to a higher level of intelligence.I am sure as for Christopher Hitchens smoking for many people of his generation was done because it was considered cool and rebellious and the scientific knowledge about it didn't exist. You are painting a brush based on common knowledge today not what was back in 1970
EnvisionFilms 5 days ago
@EnvisionFilms I'm sorry it doesnt take a genius to figure out cigarettes & alcohol arent good for you, so he's suppose to convince me theres no god with his intelect but he didnt know cigarettes were bad because there wasnt studies done on it yet?
j2mfp78 5 days ago
@j2mfp78 Ok show me a video or some form of evidence to support your accusation that he didn't know they were bad for him?. Because i've never seen him make such a claim. I am pretty sure he knew they are bad but did them anyway because like everyone else in the world he had the right to make that choice. It sounds a bit like you are so anti Hitchens you are looking for any excuse to not agree with him because you can't hold fault with his actual words so you need to attack his character.
EnvisionFilms 5 days ago
@EnvisionFilms Your actually making my point. He understood it but did it anyway? Well why couldnt he understand peoples beliefs in religion or whatever weather science proves something or not we all make our choices he seemed just as dogmatic as the religions he condems.
j2mfp78 5 days ago
@j2mfp78 Massive difference between cigarettes and religion, his issue with Religion and in fact the issue with religion is that it renders a totalitarian regime and total control over the masses as seen by the pope and theocracies in African nations which completely negates democracy and liberty. You're the one who's the non-intellect that can't establish a difference between religion and a cigarette. Shame on you.
MrShakespere 5 days ago 3
@MrShakespere You do what most others do when talkin about the subject, you blame an outside source instead of the humans doing it. Its not religion that corrupts, or money or science ,its the people who choose to be that way its like sayin since one guy cant handle alcohol no one can drink now. p.s. I never said I was an intellect (you obviously think you are with that name though) anyways keep defending your cult hero.
j2mfp78 1 hour ago
@j2mfp78 Okay so now I apply the difference between cigarettes and religion to alcohol and religion. You're using what's known as circular reasoning. It's a logical fallacy by the way.
MrShakespere 1 hour ago
@MrShakespere Go write a poem since your not reading what I wrote anyways theres no use in continuing this discussion.
j2mfp78 1 hour ago
@j2mfp78 I read, hence the reply. Nice. Straw man's argument. Ta...
MrShakespere 1 hour ago
@MrShakespere Well then why didnt you reply to what I wrote instead of avoiding it with your silly comments.. Look up cognitive dissonance smart guy it seems to fit you perfectly.
j2mfp78 23 minutes ago
@j2mfp78 no, he knew
TOMHYLE88 5 days ago
@AgnesSteinberg Your kidding right?
j2mfp78 1 hour ago
...Where can I watch the entire video?
bmaseray 1 week ago
I don't get all of the hatred Maher's getting in this comment section. Maher had a very nice tribute to Hitchens on the current season's premiere episode, and even had Hitchens on his show after this incident. Maher clearly enjoyed having Hitchens around, and valued what he had to say. From what I can tell, Hitchens liked Maher fairly well too.
Brianzilla2004 1 week ago
I don't care if I disagree with any of them on some issues, they are both cool in my book.
offwithurhead 1 week ago
HAHAHA my man Hitch has no fear. That audience is an example of people following each other and calling it a religion.
HxCDeathMetalHead 2 weeks ago
It is scientifically proven that all Americans are stupid.
Especially the audiences.
Ignorance is bliss, then again so is war.
Derp.
MrRaspberryBeret 2 weeks ago
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@MrRaspberryBeret "[Wherever] a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi [Fascist], a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'adviser' or leader; in Cuba [it was] [Jesuit-trained] Castro's 'Father' Armando Llorente..."
Emanuel M. Josephson (American physician and historian)
augustmaquet 2 weeks ago
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@MrRaspberryBeret "Above all things, Jesuits are 'confessors'. Their services unto the royalty were urged as a 'need', as they became assigned to hear the confessions of the aristocrats, emperors, kings, queens, princes, princesses, ['royal'] mistresses, those in every level of government -- they all revealed their secret plans, their intimate sins, their inner-most thoughts, as their lives became virtually an open book to the Jesuits.
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@MrRaspberryBeret "In the agreement to rescue Rome [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church's hierarchy] from the predicament of losing its world control to Protestantism, and to preserve the spiritual and temporal supremacy which the popes [had] 'usurped' during the Middle Ages, Rome now 'sold' the [Roman Catholic] Church to the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]; in essence the popes surrendered themselves into their hands."
John Daniel
augustmaquet 2 weeks ago
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@MrRaspberryBeret "Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, as far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the [Roman] Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the [Nazi] Party.
Adolph Hitler
augustmaquet 2 weeks ago
I love the fact that Maher showed this clip in his memorium of Hitchens. Even when i disagreed with him, I fucking loved the guy.
YourDogIsDeadHAHA 2 weeks ago 6
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what a repulsive human being
otttyb1 2 weeks ago
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Geeez...what is that thing hanging from the the middle of mayer's face? A trunk? That nasal flap is enormous. When mayer puts his head back, he looks like a frickin two car garage. Can a nose get any bigger?
mccalister3605 2 weeks ago
Hitchin's mind is always very difficult if not impossible to beat. He was brave and courageous beyond belief and expressed his self confidence all the time. His thinking was almost always correct and portrayed justice.
veronicats100 2 weeks ago
LOL chris hitchens what a hero
minimalist34 2 weeks ago 15
Fuck you neocons
deathbyzza420 3 weeks ago 2
i for one enjoy his bush-iq references with feverish joy, however, hitchens is yet again a clarion voice among chatter.
flatulentperdition 3 weeks ago
Maher, go to your room school is over for u and your pathetic moronic audience.
TheDuckseason 3 weeks ago
HAHAH YES! YES YES YES!!! YOU ARE HTE MAN HITCHENS!!!!!!!
supermonkeywtf09 3 weeks ago
Politics aside, let's be honest: Maher's sheep audience IS a little stupid.
BrotherAtticus 3 weeks ago 3
@BrotherAtticus they are audience for a reason. They come there because they like him. Same could and should be said for Bill O'Reilley, Justin Bieber or any group or individual. They are there because they are allready on the same page with their entertainers.
Geckuno 3 weeks ago
@Geckuno Correct.
BrotherAtticus 3 weeks ago
@BrotherAtticus You want to see sheep? Watch the morning shows they put up in here (Turkey) there youı can find all the sheep you like =)
Geckuno 3 weeks ago
Hitchens should have reigned in his hyperbole. Clearly his target audience was the most intelligent, and given the distribution of IQ I would bet just about anything that there was at least one person in the audience who had an IQ higher than Bush, if not 5 (though I don't know the size of the audience itself. There is a difference between "calling it like you see it" and saying deliberately provocative things just to piss people off.
puertoricofree 3 weeks ago
@gorillaonrye Well said my friend. I thought Maher was going to cry when Hitch berated the audience.
rxc128 4 weeks ago
@manfriend: oh shut up
cruelbusiness1984 4 weeks ago
I am one of the many lesser egos....worship my lies...
theforestero 4 weeks ago
Maher is too obtuse to realize his own all too obvious dull wit.....Bush was a statesman with 30 IQ points on the present occupant.....Hitchens merely points out the lemming status of Maher's equally dull witted minions....
gorillaonrye 4 weeks ago 22
@gorillaonrye what the hell are you talking about? i can't stand the islamophobic, mainstream democrat propagandist piece of trash called bill maher anymore then the next man, but to call him "dull witted", is just ridiculous. as much as i hate to admit it, the guy is brilliant. and while i agree that obama is a blithering moron, so the hell was george bush. 30 IQ points higher? with what evidence?
FuckUtube4Life2010 3 weeks ago
@gorillaonrye Kudos to you
MrNisse5 3 weeks ago
@gorillaonrye
Well said. Bush was just the punching bag of America's slack-jawed idiots. Not to say that what Bush accomplished in office was all that great, but the whole thing about questioning the man's intelligence was funny at first, obnoxious after a little while.
AgApE010 2 weeks ago
@AgApE010
How does a cliche become a cliche?
Hitchens is right in that the level of crudeness that such jokes evolved into makes the joke no longer insightful or poignant, but as vulgar as the culture of Bush-bashing became, the reason for its success was the public's recognition of the truth behind the exaggeration: the man had not the level of either intelligence or competence we expect from the nominal leader of the free world.
A spade is still a spade, despite cruder descriptions.
Lodatzor 2 weeks ago
@Lodatzor
Keeping in mind that I am NOT a Bush-supporting Republican, tell me why you think he lacked intelligence?
Maybe it's just not as immediately obvious to me as, say, Sarah Palin's ineptness.
AgApE010 2 weeks ago
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@gorillaonrye "All these things cause the Father-General [of the Jesuits] to be feared by the Pope and sovereigns... A sovereign who is not their [the Jesuits'] friend will sooner or later experience their vengeance." (1852)
Luigi Desanctis (Official Censor of the Inquisition)
augustmaquet 2 weeks ago
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@gorillaonrye ...Wherever a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi, a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'advisor' or leader; in [Communist] Cuba Fr. Armando Llorente and in Argentina the neo-Nazis are led by Fr. Menvieille."
Emanuel M. Josephson (1968)
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@gorillaonrye "[Jesuit-trained Illuminist Adam] Weishaupt's success in forcing the Vatican to reestablish the abolished Jesuit Order [Ed. Note: it had been abolished in 1773 by Pope Clement XIV], through revival of the Church's original Nazarene Communism in the form of present-day Communism, led to the conspiracy's control by the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]...
augustmaquet 2 weeks ago
maher is really bozo the clown.
darkfur35 1 month ago
Bill Maher is ultimately a comedian which tackles the easy to reach issues on the surface, continually grabbing at arguments which don't require a huge amount of critical thinking, but have huge followings. His controversy comes from his militant attitude towards these pretty basic ideas (atheism, stupid presidents), whereas Hitchens comes from not only his attitude, but the fact that his ideas are much more comprehensive, less mainstream and more profound.
inertiaMS 1 month ago
@inertiaMS Thank you for saying this. I've been watching a few of Bill Maher's videos and just feel like he's only licking the top of the iceberg. It really makes me miss Bill Hicks and George Carlin. Now I have to see everything Hitchens has done.
missartist123 1 month ago
I'm sorry Hitchens but I'm smarter than the president even if he and the military industrial complex has denied me information and encouraged my ignorance about my security in the name of maintaining my security. However its incredibly revealing that I've decided to debate a man that can no longer communicate his positions in any capacity. Yet I'm still smarter than George W. Bush. Its not the man I'm debating but the idea.
VirginiaTagz 1 month ago
I can only admire Hitchens' intellectual fearlessness. RIP.
Firehorse40 1 month ago
Hitches is a guy who left religion but embraced the state. Two of which are very debilitating.
teawead 1 month ago
@teawead yea it's very ironic that such a brilliant mind could support Bush and the Iraq War.
webnovice2012 1 month ago
I like Bill Maher but, I think one point that Christopher is making is that we need to look at how we respond to problems. Repeatedly calling the president of the U.S. an idiot in various and creative ways is counterproductive to rational discussion. It creates an emotional divide that serves only as a distraction from the real issues. We must remember though, that such an approach is normally not funny and Mayer's ratings would plummet. Bill Mayer is first and foremost a comedian.
dnsmithnc 1 month ago 60
@dnsmithnc i really hope ya'll don't think that Bill Mahar is doing anything other than delivering eyeballs to his advertisers. that is his job ... his ONLY job.he does this in the same way all the other mass media platforms do by appealing to the lowest common denominator. Bill's gag also includes heavy doses of "i'n part of the cool kids cuz i'm in on the joke and the ever popular we are all smarter than everyone else that, unsurprisingly, everyone uses.
kiely 3 weeks ago
@dnsmithnc exactly, couldn't agree more. He makes great points, such as in Religulous, but he's really out of his element sometimes which makes him look cynical
jakebenjaminsk7ss 3 weeks ago
@dnsmithnc Maher is not foremost a comedian, though. He is foremost a pundit, that is people tune into his show to hear his cleverly articulated political opinions, in exactly the same way people tune into fox news. It isn't news, but it isn't comedy either. Maher very frequently gets serious and retains the audience's full interest and attention, he is only inhibitted from saying anything intelligent or honest. You can still say that's his job, but the point is he has no integrity.
eggory 3 weeks ago
@dnsmithnc We should also remember Hitchins is a warmongering chickenhawk coward who promotes zionist agenda and has been exposed many times as decietful. Look at the lies he said about Iran which never said it would wipe Israel of the map a miss translation exposed by the number of Jews living in Iran. Google operation Ajax and read confessions of an economic hitman. Stopp WW3 vote Ron Paul end the wars and stop the insanity
MultiShampain 2 weeks ago
Hitchens was taking it pretty easy on Maher and still Maher kept blundering like the oaf he is. Incredibly stupid to go up against Hitchens with so unprepared. But then again, Maher makes Bush look like Stephen Hawkings on a ginko biloba drip.
mydogbanjo 1 month ago
@mydogbanjo Maher wasnt being irrational in the least bit...
oaklandrmoss18 1 month ago
Sometimes I think Bill Maher even gets annoyed at is audience. I've seen moments where he makes a joke or an anti-Republican comment, starts going into another joke or comment, and gets cut off by sudden audience cheers, and he gets this "Oh Please Shut The Fuck Up!" look on his face.
DathanielTDK 1 month ago
"sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... and sometimes its A BIG BROWN DICK!!"
~the great George Carlin
JaCkMiChEaLs0n 1 month ago
"None of whom IS smarter than the president" - the late mr hitchens spoke un-grammatically , where the word none is singular. He also spoke without evidence- any audience member who read a daily paper was without doubt better-informed than the president. w was not then and never had been a reader of any major daily - his own admission. And he owned a major league ball team. Think if you owned a nag, you'd buy the damn racing form? Hitchens, a sad loss - well before he died.
newsmanbluesman 1 month ago
@newsmanbluesman Ditherer.
mrsthursday 1 month ago
Funny now that Bush is gone and Obama is in,Maher is all for bombing Iran. Maher is a fool who makes jokes to hide his ignorance,or when he cant answer/articulate himself.Look up Michael Scheur making a fool of him on the Iran/Israel issue.
Leinster4life13 1 month ago
Hitchens is incredible :D
frother 1 month ago
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marionetemanJ 1 month ago
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Epicaq 1 month ago
Bush had an IQ of maybe 130. Not genius level, but definitely above most of his mockers.
SmashActionRemix 1 month ago
I'm not a hardcore conservative tea party member, but I cannot STAND bill maher. he's an obnoxious tool. he's the left equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Hitchens was a respectable intellectual. I say that as a pious Christian. He was the one new atheist i respected.
kubrox91 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Hitchens is by far and away the greatest British export ever, not even the Beatles get close to him.
StamfordMax 1 month ago
@mrsayoose Assuming you believe Neanderthals ever existed, of course.
SecularBritain 1 month ago
@mrsayoose And I imagine your comments in an accent of a knuckle dragging Neanderthal. Judging by your simple responses, I take it that I'm being quite accurate?
SecularBritain 1 month ago
Honestly, I think Hitchens was wrong on this one. He's just being insulting. When Maher made a good point about Bush, Hitchens attacked the audience.
MagatsutheCalamity 1 month ago
this is so amazing. i don't agree with hitchens about the war but he makes such a good point about people, maher and his audience. just because you're a part of the 'liberal left' does not make you intelligent or any less susceptible to following the crowd. when they booed the second time, i couldn't believe it. so pathetic.
fujikokun 1 month ago
@SirDebaser thank god ? you do relize this is a bill maher show right ? as in STICTLY athiest
MiloMatrataMusic 1 month ago
I think time has proven Christopher Hitchens entirely wrong on the Iraq War issue, which he was so passionately for just because of his generally racist hatred of the Muslim culture. But he used the presence of Al-Qaeda members who came in AFTER the invasion as somehow justification that there really WAS a terrorist threat as if they'd been there the whole time and when called out on it, he just responded so childishly. Maher's audience can be really rude but this was not an instance of such.
blondie666 1 month ago
That's what I loved about Hitchens. He was left-leaning, but he wasn't like all these stereotypical liberals who all agree with eachother and pat themselves on the back. I was personally against the war in Iraq, I'm not a liberal or leftist, and Hitchens was a great free-thinker and this sequence demonstrates his intellectual honesty. I agree with him here, and he was right about not always following the liberal point of view on every subject. He was a free man, not a sheep.
Wotanraven 1 month ago
omg, this is the best "fuck you" I have EVER heard my entire life ....
Byron10301 1 month ago
yeah i love hitchens but his foreign policy isnt the greatest
marioluvian 1 month ago
Well they are booing about something Hitchens was completely WRONG about.
I like Hitchens actually. But he was dead wrong about throwing his weight behind the war criminals of the Dubya gang, just as he's dead wrong about feminism. And in this case he was rightly boo'd.
Mind you I respect Hitchens more then Maher. Maher is an antivax kook and supports SOPA and PIPA.
But Hitchens was far from infallible.
I wish Hitchens had lived longer though.
TheSkunkCat 1 month ago
I bet half the audience doesn't even know what frivolous means.
jwdogg1551 1 month ago
HAha YES
uhhh54321 1 month ago
Well, this is the reason I didn't agree with Hitchens on everything...
jerico641 1 month ago
The British have terrible teeth
mrsayoose 1 month ago
@mrsayoose Clearly some troll who gets off on insulting British people...
boygrant123 1 month ago
RIP Hitchens. I enjoyed watching him at times.
sukidiamond 1 month ago
@mrsayoose You, sir, are an utterly disgusting, detestable, miserable and pathetic human being.
SecularBritain 1 month ago 2
@SecularBritain I hear your insults in a British accent. It's hilarious.
mrsayoose 1 month ago
@SecularBritain The British are cranky
mrsayoose 1 month ago
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mrsayoose 1 month ago
While i disagree with his views on Iran, this was fucking awesome.
Urindunk 1 month ago
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mrsayoose 1 month ago
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Myeah, sure, I don't really give the biggest fuck about Hitchens, all I know is that Maher's audience is fucking annoying.
Urindunk 1 month ago
@Urindunk They are annoying. They never used to clap so much.
mrsayoose 1 month ago
Pause at 1:09 to see the best Hitch smile!
tmeyer10000 1 month ago
Thanks for everything Christopher. God is definitely not great,but you WERE THE GREATEST.
MOGGS1942 1 month ago
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Bush was is and will always be a fucking moron. Sorry Hitchens hitched his wagon to the most idiotic President we have had since Taft but it's true. This will always be the albatross around Hitchens neck, his hate for organized religion (a hate I share with him) and especially militant Islam blinded him to Bush and more importantly the people around Bush (Cheney Rummy Wolfy etc) and what total lying scum they all were. He was wrong, it happens to everyone, he was wrong
SurlytheCLown 1 month ago
Nice edit. This was one of the things that Hitchens got incredibly WRONG, his support for the Bush administrations bullshit war and their bullshit reasons for starting it has been the biggest nightmare for Hitchens career no matter if he wanted to admit it or not. He hates organized religion as I do and he especially hates Muslim extremists like I do, his problem is who he aligned himself with when it came to publicly taking a stand. He aligned himself with fundamentalist Christians MISTAKE.
SurlytheCLown 1 month ago
I would like to have seen Maher's response to Hitchen's comments. I get the feeling that Maher wasn't really as insulted as the video is trying to show.
miraskillz 1 month ago
I've always thought that Maher was THE MOST OBNOXIOUS comedian and liberal out there. He's the liberal equivalent to Rush Limbaugh. Thank God for Christopher Hitchens.
kubrox91 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
I miss Christopher Hitchens. There aren't enough smart people in the world.
xarzu 1 month ago
@xarzu He was an idiot. That's why he's dead
mrsayoose 1 month ago
Does anyobe know where can i see the full episode??
impartialequity 1 month ago
what does Maher mean at the end?
dgriff18 1 month ago
@dgriff18 I believe he's stating that Bush looks stupid, and is- as opposed to others who'd say he acts stupid (which is pretty objective) although is a very smart man beneath.
Maddolis 1 month ago
:troll:
TheRyanK2 1 month ago
Holy crap! Who is this guy???? He's awesome!
hightechjunkieva 1 month ago
@hightechjunkieva I miss Christopher Hitchens. There aren't enough smart people in the world. Sadly he died not long ago. He is an author and made a living from being intelligent.
xarzu 1 month ago
To think every time I watched this show and saw him make a Bush is dumb joke, I thought the exact same thing. I sure miss Mr. Hitchens...
HiDeguild 1 month ago