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  • err....

    CURSILLINESS!

  • I really think you meant P-E-N-E-T-E-N-T-I-A-L-S CBFH! There's too much «pentecostal» silliness infiltrating the Anglican Communion as it is without accidentally introducing more! <8-)))

  • Yes, the Mag and Nunc written by Dyson is always amazing~

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  • This is excellent. Thank you for posting it.

  • This Nunc Dimittis has the most beautiful gloria patris I have ever sung - I performed this at an evensong at National Cathedral and I got goosebumps!

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  • choirboyfromhell1 should learn to spell "definitive". I was taught to spell by Mr Fiddian, Headmaster of Kings College Choir School

  • Sorry, I went to music conservatory as a vocal performance major, not spelling a spelling bee.

  • And you get a free drink at the Eagle next time I'm in town.

  • Watch out for the ghost though in the back Bar (the one with the initials scrawled on the ceiling by WW2 airmen), really put the frighteners on me!

  • Haven't seen it! Usually over at the Maypole...that's were the real choir drinks.

  • LOL. When our choir was touring at Exeter Cathedral, one of the vergers was giving the trebles a tour and had them all scared of the "ghosts" that were supposedly haunting the place!

  • Found the definative answer (an organ scholar at Clare no less)

    The cassocks are black during weekdays, red on weekends.

  • lovely

    i've sung @ Kings collage Cambridge chapel!

    well nice!

  • Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace : according to thy word.

    For mine eyes have seen : thy salvation,

    Which thou hast prepared : before the face of all people;

    To be a light to lighten the Gentiles : and to be the glory of thy people Israel.

  • Is King's the only choir that changes the colors of their cassocks for the liturgical seasons? I.e. black for penitential seasons and red for otherwise it seems.

    Very lovely, Dyson is always nice.

  • Hm, I never saw them with different colors than their red/white choirrobes..

  • the types of choir robes colors is very interesting: in england its red, france all white with a wooden cross or dark blue, in spain black, in italy violet, in poland sky blue, in the netherlands turquoise and in germany too red,

  • Choir robes (or cassocks) vary in colour in England. If not a Royal foundation, then black is common, but other colours may be chosen as well. However, Red is only permitted in Royal Foundations, suchas here at King's (founded by King Henry VI), Westminster Abbey, St George's Chapel etc. Note at St Paul's Cathedral they wear black, not Red, as there are no Royal foundations here!

  • you seem to know a lot about that. So, why do the choristers of westminster RC cathedral wear red choir robes? is westminster cath. a royal foundation? I believe no, because state religion of united kingdom is aglicanism, isn't it?

  • The Choir of Westminster Cathedral wear robes according to Roman Catholic guidelines, whatever they may be. The colour red I describe above are specifically for Royal foundations in England according to the Church of England, of which the Monarch is Head and Supreme Governor (and is annointed as such at the Coronation). Hope that helps.

  • @ donhenri01:

    Don't know about the other countries you mentioned, but as ds1868 says above, in England (in Anglican churches) choir robes are only red if the choir has a royal connection.

    Another significant robe colour is purple, showing a choir connected to a bishop (eg Canturbury, York and also various other churches founded by bishops).

    The usual "default" robe colour is black.

    @choirboyfromhell: we don't change our cassocks, but don't wear surplices on Good Friday.

  • Why does St. John's College Cambridge wear red cassocks? Do they have a royal connection?

  • Yes they do. St John's College was founded by Lady Margaret Beaufort, who was Henry VII's mother (and Henry VIII's grandmother).

  • That's absolutely right, but to be even more specific Lady Margaret Beaufort was a direct descendent of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster (third son of King Edward III, King of England 1327-1377). Margaret Beaufort always signed herself as Margaret R, to emphasise to her son Henry VII that she would be Queen Regnant by law, but was allowing him to be King instead! Henry VII didn't mind this at all! So yes Royal money and patronage founded St John's, hence the red robes.

  • I went one time to a evensong in de kings college chapel and I saw that they were waring black choir robes

  • An the time of the year was.....?

  • It was in november or begin december in 2008

  • It was in november or begin december in 2008

  • That's Advent, a penitential season.

  • @choirboyfromhell It doesn't actually. Red robes are for weekends and feast days. Black robes are for normal weekdays.

  • @choirboyfromhell The cathedral choir I sing in have different colour cassocks for weekdays and Sundays, but not Seasons.

  • @choirboyfromhell We wore black on weekdays and pentecostals and red for weekends and celebrations. I think we're the only ones yes :P

  • One of the best pieces of music ever written. The first line of the gloria always moves

  • Dyson's Mag and Nunc in D in the dimness of a Sunday evensong - very heaven!!

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