@lsdmadman Looking over your channel, I see you appreciate fine music. I haven't run into too many people familiar with Roy Harper or Tangerine Dream.
@sdbolt65 You are so right! FM sold out to the pop music scene with the addition of Buckingham/Nicks. The Weston and Welch years produced their best work.
@mjfletch5737 The decline of FM radio was sad to see. I remember a lot of great stations growing up in California and now, their only claim to fame is the rubbish they put out. The DJ's think that trashy is great and I guess people are willing to settle for it.
I have a F'wood Mac double cd of them playing on the BBC and is it great. Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood at their finest. If you find it, give it a listen.
love this song to me all members of fleetwood mac were great this band always rocked no matter what era of fleetwood mac it was. great song writers. great guitar players that is what made fleetwood mac so good and today they still are great love em.
i think it is bob also, he starts the song low as a tenor/ baritone, and has a higher voice for the choruses. christine may be in the chorus , but i can't say for sure .
oh my gosh, we hear so much about buckingham and nicks, how soon we forget about Peter, Danny and Bob. I was forturnate to see Fleetwood Mac in the 70's. A Bill Gramm production @ Winterland. I paid 4 bucks at the door. I was close enough to see that christie wasn't wearing a bra.....not that she needed 1. One of the best live show I've ever seen, specially when they played this song....
Hold on with both hands, kids -- here we go again -- 2012 knocking at the door. Time will bury you if you allow it. Don't be a casualty of time -- leave something positive and wondrous behind (like sublime music like this). We DO invent the future we want to face. It's all about choice! A Happy and Hopeful 2012 to planet earth!
Many thanks for making me feel young again!! I prefer this iteration of the group, regardless of their later commercial success. I feel privileged to have known these songs since they were released!!
Does anyone know if this album is available anywhere? I had it on vinyl years ago, but have never seen it emerge on CD or on iTunes, etc. Is it tied up in legal restrictions or something?
@msondine-Bob welch left because he was the main song writer in the band and the pressure to write became to great.This is THE Reason he quit.What a misguided "idea" he would feel insecure as the only axe player! What rubbish!
I didn't present this as a fact, but merely as an assumption;) Before 'Heroes are Hard to Find' Welch always played together with another guitarist, who was more specialized in taking the lead. When Kirwan did his infamous head bashing/guitar smashing thingie and wouldn't go on stage, Bob had a rather hard time, because he wasn't used to playing lead. At least that's what M.Fleetwood writes in his autobiography:) Not that I take most what he writes too seriously;)
No doubt about it, Bob Welch and Bob Weston made a great guitar playing combo, with the former on lead guitar. The departure of Weston lead to Welch's departure. Too bad.
On the on the other hand, without a true lead guitarist for the album 'Heros are Hard to Find', Welch focused mainly on the lyrical side of things, such as with his song 'Bermuda Triangle'.
I would say the that 'Bare Trees', the album that immediately followed 'Future Games' is Fleetwood Mac's best album by a country mile.
@ohioguy7 I would go for the Kirwan ones though....I'm a devoted fan of his music....not underrating Welch's contribution of course...he definitely kept them going
I could listen to this over and again. This playing while viewing clips from Time After Time, The Time Machine (1960 and 2002), Somewhere In Time (Chris Reeve as the Time Traveler). Not to forget clips from all of the Back to the Future flicks. "You invent the future..." so very profound -- so very true. I always say a prayer for tomorrow, people. I just hope that, "I'm not the only one."
Thank you for posting this nearly-lost gem. Love that little flare of Spanish guitar at the beginning -- a carry-over from the 1960s when music was an incredible amalgam of different musical genres. The lyrics are thoughtful and true. The music is like something out of a beautiful and effective daydream. It's music for the day after tomorrow. I wonder -- has anyone given any thought to incorporating this magnificent tune into a movie soundtrack? This is KIING TONE!
@ShelldaleWay Truly sublime in every regard. The last time I heard Future Games (before I heard it here) was in 1987 during a "fluff piece" at the end of a radio news broadcast. It was about a future war between people with telekinetic powers and people with high-tech weaponry. Bad Sci-Fi in the same vein as L. Ron Hubbard. Back in the 1970s, I was a Scientologist for a short time. Man, was I a dope!
Who gives a f... about the particulars...theszes guys f...'n rocked like no other M f....inf mf'ers ever... Petere GReen had ...f'n ...THEY F'N ROCKED more than Shit!
It is my understanding that when Danny Kirwin joined the band, a few years before Welch, Kirwin had to write half the songs for the album 'Then Play On', as a sort of initiation into the Fleetwood Mac band.
Welch sort of continued that tradition with 'Future Games', being the major contributor immediately upon joining the band.
Not really, Both Danny and Bob Welch contributed 3 songs for Future Games, while Christine wrote 2. On Bare Trees Danny penned 5 of the 9 songs. So, until he got the sack he was the major contibutor. He also was the lead guitar player in those years:)
@MsOndine Beg to differ. 'Future Games' would be great album by anyone else's standards, but by Fleetwood Mac's it is below average. The only really outstanding song on it is the Welch penned title track.
@charlesremschel7 Bob Welch was with Mac for 5 albums, over a 4 year period, ending around 1974. One analysis I read is that he was disappointed by the infighting revolving around marital infidelity, chiefly between Danny Kirwin's replacement, Bob Weston and Mick Fleetwood's beautiful wife Jenny Boyd. Christine McVie also had an affair around this time.
Welch had a semi-successful solo career in the second half of the 70's, but nothing compared to the stuff he did with Fleetwood Mac.
Well I think Mick Fleetwood is a big hypocrite for sacking Bob Weston. Fleetwood gave his wife far too less attention all those years they were married and later on he himself started an afair with Stevie Nicks. Bob Welch and Bob Weston got along fine as I understand, so this must have been a hard blow for Bob Welch. Also Bob Welch wasn't a real lead player, so being the only guitar player must have made him feel rather insecure.
@MsOndine I agree with your analysis of M. Fleetwood/Weston/Welch. Regarding some of the other comments on best F. Mac album, it really is a matter of taste, to a large extent. I like 'Rumours', but that is not my favorite kind of music. I'm more into heady stuff, sort of like 'Miles Away', 'Future Games', and 'Bermuda Triangle'.
I also like to see/hear a bit of humor in music, like the song 'Rattlesnake Shake', which I believe is a Peter Green composition.
I also think Future Games is a great prog track. However my favourite track of this great album - imo together with 'Bare Trees' the best Fleetwood Mac album - remains 'Sands Of Time':)
To me the top five Fleewood Mac albums IMO are:
Rumours, although I think its too polished and songs like The Chain sound far more interesting live.
Then Play On
Future Games
Bare Trees
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.
The rest has some nice tracks, but don't convince as a whole..
I'd like to add that I think the last one 'Say You Will' is one of their more interesting albums. However, mostly because of the raw, heavy tracks by Lindsey Buckingham like Come and Murrow Turning Over In His Grave but far less because of Nick's contribution. The same goes more or less for Tusk. As a Buckingham solo album this would have been a classic , but unfortunately most of the Nicks and McVie tracks are way too poppy and consersative to make it a believable project.
A classic! There's some really great guitar in this song. Long before the commercial Fleetwood Mac, they went into the studio and jammed and came up with gems like this. Multiple guitar licks in wonderful stereo. I love it!!
..."you invent the future that you want to face". That's deep!
gemini16th 6 days ago
dudes!!! this rools...thanky the hell moocho
lsdmadman 1 week ago in playlist Fleetwood Mac - Future Games
Sorry all you Top 40 Fleetwood Mac lovers, but their best work was done long before Buckingham/Nicks stumbled on scene and watered down the music.
sdbolt65 1 week ago
@sdbolt65 it wd be nigh impossible to agree more!
lsdmadman 1 week ago in playlist Fleetwood Mac - Future Games
@lsdmadman Looking over your channel, I see you appreciate fine music. I haven't run into too many people familiar with Roy Harper or Tangerine Dream.
sdbolt65 1 week ago
@sdbolt65 You are so right! FM sold out to the pop music scene with the addition of Buckingham/Nicks. The Weston and Welch years produced their best work.
mjfletch5737 1 week ago
@mjfletch5737 The decline of FM radio was sad to see. I remember a lot of great stations growing up in California and now, their only claim to fame is the rubbish they put out. The DJ's think that trashy is great and I guess people are willing to settle for it.
I have a F'wood Mac double cd of them playing on the BBC and is it great. Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood at their finest. If you find it, give it a listen.
sdbolt65 1 week ago
Awesome music!
travisbailey1964 2 weeks ago
19 years old, LOVE Fleetwood Mac!! This song is so chill :)
Korver222 2 weeks ago
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Korver222 2 weeks ago
love this song to me all members of fleetwood mac were great this band always rocked no matter what era of fleetwood mac it was. great song writers. great guitar players that is what made fleetwood mac so good and today they still are great love em.
rockzulla 3 weeks ago
FYI: you can really hear Christine McVie's vocals at the end(..."I'm not the only one").
gemini16th 1 month ago
Ultimate mellow-out rock track. You don't even need the weed around playing this one.
gemini16th 1 month ago
How bout that Crazy Horse riff they toss out at a couple points in the song...love it.
mudatthewall 1 month ago
I am SO glad I am wearing headphones!
charvesa 1 month ago
i think it is bob also, he starts the song low as a tenor/ baritone, and has a higher voice for the choruses. christine may be in the chorus , but i can't say for sure .
texas4christ 1 month ago
can't believe only 12,000 people have listened to this! ....ahem, on UT
deankyle08 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
My fav album of all time.Secound would be yer album,The James Gang
1skippyman 1 month ago
oh my gosh, we hear so much about buckingham and nicks, how soon we forget about Peter, Danny and Bob. I was forturnate to see Fleetwood Mac in the 70's. A Bill Gramm production @ Winterland. I paid 4 bucks at the door. I was close enough to see that christie wasn't wearing a bra.....not that she needed 1. One of the best live show I've ever seen, specially when they played this song....
strckr55 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
I miss this. I had it on 8 track a long time ago. I just ordered it!
autumnsdadsgirl 2 months ago
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texas4christ 2 months ago
@texas4christ Christine McVie
Rockym100 2 months ago
@texas4christ it's Bob Welsh
lynnfarang 1 month ago
Hold on with both hands, kids -- here we go again -- 2012 knocking at the door. Time will bury you if you allow it. Don't be a casualty of time -- leave something positive and wondrous behind (like sublime music like this). We DO invent the future we want to face. It's all about choice! A Happy and Hopeful 2012 to planet earth!
mickeymousebiker1 2 months ago
ear candy ~ what a beauty ~
heapbigtalk 2 months ago
Ya estan sonando en Mexico
guuM0oo 2 months ago
I start melting at about the 5:30 mark - it is musical nirvana...
csamonds 2 months ago
Best album
rivieralife1 3 months ago
I thought Danny Kirwan was a master when I was in college. Turns out he had serious talent. Hope he's out there somewhere, playing.
MaryFizz3 3 months ago
The CD is available. it's an extraordinary album featuring some of Danny Kirwin's finest work and others.
gpotterc 3 months ago
cocaine
WBCRsfinest 4 months ago
Many thanks for making me feel young again!! I prefer this iteration of the group, regardless of their later commercial success. I feel privileged to have known these songs since they were released!!
rhevern 4 months ago
fantastic --- thumbs up ..ann
Lichtfee004 4 months ago
Beautiful, haunting classic!
cayman5775 4 months ago
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bassmanjoe 5 months ago
You ROCK for posting the whole album... <3 <3 .... THANK YOU...!!!
55cynhow 5 months ago in playlist Fleetwood Mac - Future Games
Does anyone know if this album is available anywhere? I had it on vinyl years ago, but have never seen it emerge on CD or on iTunes, etc. Is it tied up in legal restrictions or something?
cjsukes 5 months ago
@msondine-Bob welch left because he was the main song writer in the band and the pressure to write became to great.This is THE Reason he quit.What a misguided "idea" he would feel insecure as the only axe player! What rubbish!
Incomplete6230 5 months ago
@Incomplete6230,
I didn't present this as a fact, but merely as an assumption;) Before 'Heroes are Hard to Find' Welch always played together with another guitarist, who was more specialized in taking the lead. When Kirwan did his infamous head bashing/guitar smashing thingie and wouldn't go on stage, Bob had a rather hard time, because he wasn't used to playing lead. At least that's what M.Fleetwood writes in his autobiography:) Not that I take most what he writes too seriously;)
MsOndine 5 months ago
No doubt about it, Bob Welch and Bob Weston made a great guitar playing combo, with the former on lead guitar. The departure of Weston lead to Welch's departure. Too bad.
On the on the other hand, without a true lead guitarist for the album 'Heros are Hard to Find', Welch focused mainly on the lyrical side of things, such as with his song 'Bermuda Triangle'.
I would say the that 'Bare Trees', the album that immediately followed 'Future Games' is Fleetwood Mac's best album by a country mile.
JasonEmery9 5 months ago
Underrated....majestic.....superb....soothing....trippy....psychedelic......stoned...MASTERPIECE
TheBitterSweetgr 5 months ago 17
@TheBitterSweetgr
with a mild drink and
a little smoke it's very dreamy...
and nice memories..
ohioguy7 2 months ago in playlist Fleetwood Mac - Future Games
@ohioguy7 I adore this Mac period....although it's a quite unsure and unstable one....their music flows...
TheBitterSweetgr 2 months ago
@TheBitterSweetgr
as are their Mystified and Hypnotized songs
the 'germangirl' visual version of Hyp. is
cosmic.....
or maybe duran duran's version
of lay lady lay
ohioguy7 2 months ago
@ohioguy7 I would go for the Kirwan ones though....I'm a devoted fan of his music....not underrating Welch's contribution of course...he definitely kept them going
TheBitterSweetgr 2 months ago
@TheBitterSweetgr best stoner song ever.
donkeymikes 2 months ago 3
@donkeymikes One of the best without doubt.....
TheBitterSweetgr 2 months ago
@donkeymikes Yes- it will just about get you high without ever going near the "weed"!
gemini16th 1 month ago
@TheBitterSweetgr For another compariable mellow-blues Bob Welch track, listen to "Bright Fire" off the "Penguin" disc(1973).
gemini16th 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
@gemini16th Excellent choice!
mjfletch5737 1 week ago
I could listen to this over and again. This playing while viewing clips from Time After Time, The Time Machine (1960 and 2002), Somewhere In Time (Chris Reeve as the Time Traveler). Not to forget clips from all of the Back to the Future flicks. "You invent the future..." so very profound -- so very true. I always say a prayer for tomorrow, people. I just hope that, "I'm not the only one."
mickeymousebiker1 5 months ago
Thank you for posting this nearly-lost gem. Love that little flare of Spanish guitar at the beginning -- a carry-over from the 1960s when music was an incredible amalgam of different musical genres. The lyrics are thoughtful and true. The music is like something out of a beautiful and effective daydream. It's music for the day after tomorrow. I wonder -- has anyone given any thought to incorporating this magnificent tune into a movie soundtrack? This is KIING TONE!
mickeymousebiker1 5 months ago 12
@mickeymousebiker1 You're welcome. This tune is sublime :)
ShelldaleWay 5 months ago 2
@ShelldaleWay Truly sublime in every regard. The last time I heard Future Games (before I heard it here) was in 1987 during a "fluff piece" at the end of a radio news broadcast. It was about a future war between people with telekinetic powers and people with high-tech weaponry. Bad Sci-Fi in the same vein as L. Ron Hubbard. Back in the 1970s, I was a Scientologist for a short time. Man, was I a dope!
mickeymousebiker1 5 months ago
@mickeymousebiker1 This song is in the almost famous soundtrack, i was amazed when i heard it and realized what i was hearing
GreenyMcFleetwood 4 months ago
@GreenyMcFleetwood Great lyrics and music -- isn't it? I truly liked Fleetwood Mac back then.
mickeymousebiker1 4 months ago
@mickeymousebiker1 this song is from Almost Famous (2000) ;p
hondakii0 4 weeks ago
Who gives a f... about the particulars...theszes guys f...'n rocked like no other M f....inf mf'ers ever... Petere GReen had ...f'n ...THEY F'N ROCKED more than Shit!
rexatubeU 6 months ago
pretty good
sepulthrax 6 months ago
It is my understanding that when Danny Kirwin joined the band, a few years before Welch, Kirwin had to write half the songs for the album 'Then Play On', as a sort of initiation into the Fleetwood Mac band.
Welch sort of continued that tradition with 'Future Games', being the major contributor immediately upon joining the band.
JasonEmery9 6 months ago
@JasonEmery9,
Not really, Both Danny and Bob Welch contributed 3 songs for Future Games, while Christine wrote 2. On Bare Trees Danny penned 5 of the 9 songs. So, until he got the sack he was the major contibutor. He also was the lead guitar player in those years:)
MsOndine 6 months ago
@MsOndine Beg to differ. 'Future Games' would be great album by anyone else's standards, but by Fleetwood Mac's it is below average. The only really outstanding song on it is the Welch penned title track.
JasonEmery9 6 months ago
@JasonEmery9 wonder what happened to Bob Welch--
charlesremschel7 5 months ago
@charlesremschel7 Bob Welch was with Mac for 5 albums, over a 4 year period, ending around 1974. One analysis I read is that he was disappointed by the infighting revolving around marital infidelity, chiefly between Danny Kirwin's replacement, Bob Weston and Mick Fleetwood's beautiful wife Jenny Boyd. Christine McVie also had an affair around this time.
Welch had a semi-successful solo career in the second half of the 70's, but nothing compared to the stuff he did with Fleetwood Mac.
JasonEmery9 5 months ago
@JasonEmery9 thanks but I meant figuratively he had a great voice but if u remember he got tired of the biz
charlesremschel7 5 months ago
@JasonEmery9,
Well I think Mick Fleetwood is a big hypocrite for sacking Bob Weston. Fleetwood gave his wife far too less attention all those years they were married and later on he himself started an afair with Stevie Nicks. Bob Welch and Bob Weston got along fine as I understand, so this must have been a hard blow for Bob Welch. Also Bob Welch wasn't a real lead player, so being the only guitar player must have made him feel rather insecure.
MsOndine 5 months ago
@MsOndine I agree with your analysis of M. Fleetwood/Weston/Welch. Regarding some of the other comments on best F. Mac album, it really is a matter of taste, to a large extent. I like 'Rumours', but that is not my favorite kind of music. I'm more into heady stuff, sort of like 'Miles Away', 'Future Games', and 'Bermuda Triangle'.
I also like to see/hear a bit of humor in music, like the song 'Rattlesnake Shake', which I believe is a Peter Green composition.
JasonEmery9 5 months ago
@JasonEmery9,
I also think Future Games is a great prog track. However my favourite track of this great album - imo together with 'Bare Trees' the best Fleetwood Mac album - remains 'Sands Of Time':)
To me the top five Fleewood Mac albums IMO are:
Rumours, although I think its too polished and songs like The Chain sound far more interesting live.
Then Play On
Future Games
Bare Trees
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.
The rest has some nice tracks, but don't convince as a whole..
MsOndine 5 months ago
@MsOndine (myself),
I meant: 'top albums', not especially 'top five top albums';)
MsOndine 5 months ago
@JasonEmery9,
I'd like to add that I think the last one 'Say You Will' is one of their more interesting albums. However, mostly because of the raw, heavy tracks by Lindsey Buckingham like Come and Murrow Turning Over In His Grave but far less because of Nick's contribution. The same goes more or less for Tusk. As a Buckingham solo album this would have been a classic , but unfortunately most of the Nicks and McVie tracks are way too poppy and consersative to make it a believable project.
MsOndine 5 months ago
@JasonEmery9 Beg to differ as well. 'Show Me a Smile' is also outstanding. You are correct about the title track being outstanding.
RayNDeere 1 month ago
some of mt best memories of being on radio is when I could play the unknown but best tracks by this band!!!!!!
arnettstacy 6 months ago 3
yea before they became commercial!
TheAlienwoman 7 months ago 4
A classic! There's some really great guitar in this song. Long before the commercial Fleetwood Mac, they went into the studio and jammed and came up with gems like this. Multiple guitar licks in wonderful stereo. I love it!!
p5bdkw 7 months ago 13
@p5bdkw You said it! This tune is a mind-blower (and truthful too)! WE invent the future we want to face.
mickeymousebiker1 2 months ago
Good ol stuff dude!
fortheloveoftunes 7 months ago 2
Cool!!
LaniRockster 7 months ago 3