greks you dumb ass gypsy beggars come to Albania and clean our toilets and give us your women for some Albanian service we will pay well in olives currency.
hehehe...bankrupy gypsy nation Alexander was a real man that means that he was Albanian cos one of us equals 100 gayreks.
@1L1R1A Are u living underground? is it cold? do u need any blankets? dont worry the Greeks sooner or later will find u...! and please dont even compare us with u, u low life criminals of this world!
BEWARE...........
You are talking about my countrys history? and u emphasise on gays? .Thats how much u know cause all ur history was, is murdering, backstabbing, raping and selling drugs and arms!! thats who u r...and thats why u r proud of! ....Scum!!!
You modify history. You claim that because Alexander's mother was from the Greek region of Epirus which is next to Illyria. His mother was Greek. Ancient Epirus was Greek.
Alexander was born on 20 July 356 BC,in Pella, the capital of the Kingdom of Macedon. He was the son of Philip II, the Greek King of Macedon. His mother was Philip's fourth wife Olympias, the daughter of the Greek Neoptolemus I, the king of Epirus.....
He had a Greek education.. Many people were passed over including Isocrates and Speusippus, the latter of whom was Plato's successor at the Academy and who offered to resign to take up the post. In the end, Philip offered the job to Aristotle, who accepted, and Philip gave them the Temple of the Nymphs at Mieza as their classroom. ..........NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE ......JEALOUS AND IDIOT MAN!....OUST!!!!!!!
@nixter888 Greek region of Epirus,thats fucking bullshit.just like macedonia tell greek what does emathia mean in greek?you cant tell me can you?.epirus was part of albanian land aswell,if alexandra was greek then his father would not have destroyed greece,its funny how he allied with illyria and epirus both are where albanians are from.
Headword: ?mathoeis. ?mathoentos Adler number: eta,278 Translated headword: sandy Vetting Status: high Translation: [genitive] h)maqo/entos: gravelly. Greek Original: Ημαθοείς του ημαθοέντος = αμμώδους. Note: cf. scholion on Homer, Iliad 2.77, where this genitive occurs (there, and elsewhere, as an epithet of Pylos). Similar glosses in other lexica. Keywords: definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; epic; geography Translated by: Catharine Roth on 17 August 2006@00:49:54.
@nixter888 lol dont lie.see how many times you had to try change words to find this word,,it has no meaning in greek you know it and so do i..If this is the way you try find meanings then fuck i can have the whole greek citys named in my language,emathia was macedonia you lie,FACT,you onlt class macedonia as greek because coins with alexandra on it...It doesnt mean he is greek it means he was a hero to all people,.,even albanians.,,free epirus from the greeks,,macedonia is macedonia not greek
@ktm066 You mean free Epirus from the Albanians!,,,Epirus has been occupied since at least Neolithic times, by seafarers along the coast and hunters and shepherds in the interior, who have brought with them the Greek language. These people buried their leaders in large tumuli containing shaft graves, similar to the Mycenaean tombs, indicating an ancestral link between Epirus and the Mycenean civilization
Epirus was inhabited by the same nomadic Hellenic tribes that went on to settle in the rest of Greece. Aristotle considered the region around Dodona to have been part of Hellas and the region where the Hellenes originated.By the early 1st millennium BC, the population of Epirus consisted of three principal clusters of Greek-speaking tribes: the Chaonians in northwestern Epirus, the Molossians in the centre and the Thesprotians in the south.BEHAVE NOW!
@nixter888 I will do same thing ready,E Madhia in albanian means the greatest,,i didnt have to change nothing,what about montenegro,, ma i zi..these words are 100% thracian...see i dont change nothing.macedonians were illyrian not greek,,
@nixter888 At the beginning of the second millennium B.C., the area later known as Macedonia was inhabited principally by Illyrians in the west and Thracians in the east. During the second millennium B.C. the ancient Greeks descended in several waves of migration from the interior of the Balkans into what is now Greece. Some passed through the Morava-Vardar Valley and across the plain of Thessaly on their way south. Others traveled through Epirus
@nixter888 Ancient Greek writers used the name Pelasgians (Greek: Pelasgoí, s. Pelasgós) to refer to groups of people who preceded the Hellenes and still dwelt in several locations in mainland Greece, Crete, and other regions of the Aegean, as neighbors of the Hellenes, into the 5th century
@ktm066 Pelasgians were Greeks and only Greeks,..Do not kid your self!....Even if they spoke a dialect of Greek,they were my ancestors ,,THEY LIVE IN THE SAME PLACE, THE GREEKS LIVE TODAY,...THEY BECAME ONE!...WHEN A PERSON HAS A MOTHER LET'S SAY FROM SPAIN,AND A FATHER FROM ITALY,HE IS BOTH SPANISH AND ITALIAN!...PELASGIANS WERE MY ANCESTORS AND NOT YOURS!
@nixter888 he whole ‘Haemus’ continent, from the borders of Thrace and Macedonia to the extreme point of Peloponnesus and in North as far as Danube, was peopled with the great Pelasgian nation.However, it is agreed that Pelasgians had spoken a “barbaric” (non-Greek) language.
@nixter888 he Albanians have as much right to the name of modern Pelasgians as the modern Greeks have to their name. And in fact the Jews living in the Levant continue to apply to them the name Pelishtim (the Hebrew corrupted form of Pelasgian)
@nixter888 The original Macedonian kingdom. While it is reasonable to argue that the original Macedones who emerged in Emathia in the eighth century were a homogeneous group, this is not true of the great Macedon kingdom at the time of Alexander the Great. A majority of the population of that kingdom was not Macedonian, but Illyrian and Thracian. There were many different tribes that Philip II welded together to form the Macedon nation
@nixter888 It is widely accepted that the mythical claim of “Hellenic descent” of Macedonian kings was a smart diplomatic effort of them to gain Hellenic credentials and privileges among the Hellenes. But this supposed ‘Heracleid’ origin had no weight at all since during all the time Greeks and Macedonians contested such claim. In the eyes of each other, Macedonians perceived Greeks as a foreign people as well as Greeks perceived Macedonians and their king
@ktm066 Polybius, in his work The Histories, describes the treaty made between Hannibal and Philip V of Macedon, clearly stating that Macedonia was a part of what he perceived as Greece and that Macedonians were Greeks.He also includes in his work the speech of Lyciscus the Acarnanian who, addressing to Cleonicus and Chlaeneas, the Aetolian envoys at the assembly of Sparta, refers to the racial kinship between Aetolians, Achaeans and Macedonians
Thucydides, in his work History of the Peloponnesian War, concurs with Herodotus, stating that Alexander Ι of Macedon (father of Perdiccas II of Macedon) and his ancestors the Temenidae, originally came from Argos,and they were Greeks,and they spoke Greek!
@nixter888 [Demosthenes, 3rd Philippic 31]. In 480 BC, the Macedonian king Alexander I attempted to participate in the Olympic Games, and met with resistance by competitors, who regarded him as a non-Greek. Even Alexander the Great himself despised the arrogance of Greeks in his Macedonian army during Asiatic exploits..Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among Macedonians like demi-gods among wild beasts?” [Plutarch, The life of Alexander, 51, 2].
@ktm066 Demosthenes out of rage he said ...to Phillip ,you are not Greek not even barbarian!...it was an expression he was using when he was mad,..He meant that Philip was harsh!
@nixter888 One of the significant sites which illustrates their presence [the presence of the Illyrian tribes] is the one in the vicinity of the neighboring villages Vergina and Palatitsia, at the foot of the Pirin Range, which projects above the southwestern corner of the Emathia Plain, twenty kilometers from Methone on the land and seven or eight kilometers in the south from the coasts of the lower Haliacmon River.
@nixter888 archaeological picture there shows the presence of an Illyrian population from 800 B.C. until the middle of the seventh century. Further to the south, on the slopes of Mt. Titarion and the Pirin Mountains as well as the northern extensions of Mt. Olympus lived Macedons, who gave their name to the region Macedonia.”
@nixter888 Also, the ancient traditions show that prior to the Macedonian hegemony, the territories north of mount Olymp were called “Illyria”. This is what Herodotus (8.137) confirms:137.
@ktm066 In Greek mythology, Makednos was the mythical progenitor and eponymous ancestor of the Macedonians. According to Hesiod's Catalogue of Women, Makednos was the son of Zeus and Thyia, the daughter of Deucalion and Pyrrha, and brother of Magnes.On the other hand, Hellanicus of Lesbos' later genealogy lists Makednos as the son of Aeolus, the founder of the Aeolian tribe, and thus a grandson of Hellen, the mythological patriarch of the Hellenes...AS YOU CAN SEE ,THEY WERE GREEKS EVEN BEFORE !
Herodotus, in his work Histories, talks about the origin of the Macedonian royal house, the Argead dynasty, from the city of Argos, in the Peloponnese, and the lineage of Temenus, a descendant of Heracles, thus they were also known as Temenides. He also writes that the Macedonians were a Greek tribe from which the Dorians originated!,,,,NOTHING ALBANIAN!
The territory the Illyrians covered came to be known as Illyria to Greek and Roman authors, corresponding to parts of the former Yugoslavia and Albania, between the Adriatic Sea in the west, the Drava river in the north....You are Albanians and many historian do not think that you have anything to do with the Illirians ether!
@nixter888 herodotus also said that the dorians had no prevliages in greece because they spoke diffrent language,,,I also have read much to nixter?Macedonians were a Greek tribe from which the Dorians originated!,,Witch page because i have read much,please tell?dorians so alost of greeks say are the tosk dilect ?yes thats what i have hurd from other greeks?Then answer who are albanians?MACEDONIANS WERE ILLYRIANS NOT GREEKS,THEY SPOKE DIFFRENT LANGUAGE TO YOU GREEKS,,PHILLIP MARRIED A ILLYRIAN
@nixter888 AND A EPIRUT.BOTH NONE GREEKS,if epirus was greek land then why didnt greeks take back there land thousands of years ago but instead 1913 from albanians?Why they didnt before because it was never greek it was the people who fled from you barbarians who came from asia minor....in 1913 greeks and serbs took much albanians land are you going to deny that?You seem smart then you would know this,,,
@ktm066 The fact that you greeks and stupid carpathian gypsy serbian goat fucking filthy pigs,,That insult was to serbs,,are the only people who deny our culture,,But then take much from us,,I saw a serbians video on here with serbs wearing the northern albanian PLIS,,aka scull cap do you belive that shit fucking pigs they are,,anyway albanians have much in there language that use cant deny they can explain things that greeks cant and meanings?And if you say albanians didnt have a writing system
@ktm066 I THINK YOU TURN THE STORY AROUND !...I TOLD YOU BEFORE!..THERE IS NOTHING THE GREEKS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THEIR LANGUAGE!...DO NOT KID YOUR SELF!
@ktm066 then THINK my language is older than writing system itself and so is yours..My language was translated into the alphabet,,we can explain illyrain tribes and dardanian kings from epirut princess to dardanian princess,,to the places in montenegro, and in kosova,we have all names of old places like the word NIS that hasnt changed for years and in montenegro ulqin shkoder,and many more...this is our land and where we are from and no mother fucker greeks or gypsy
@ktm066 EPIRUS IS A GREEK LAND,AND ONE DAY IT'S GOING TO BE OURS AGAIN! AS FOR THE WRITING I TOLD YOU,....DISPILIO TABLEDS ARE GREEK!..SO ARE THE The Vinča tablets!.. The script, deciphered and is identifying signs for "bear", "bird" and "goddess". The whorl inscriptions would read "bear — goddess — bird — goddess — bear — goddess– or "the bear goddess and the bird goddess are really a single bear goddess",and that attributes in Greek goddess Artemis.
@ktm066 OH MY GOD!....Aρτεμης" : (Από τη λέξη "αρτεμές" = ακεραιότητα).Artemis from the word Artemes which means boundless, integral, uncorrupted....ANYTHING ELSE?
@ktm066 serbian pig monkey carpathian goat donkey muts are going to get rid of us,,albanians only have problems with greeks because they insult with the turkish bullshit,I never had problem with greeks until i signed up to YT,I mainly have problems with serbs they make my blood boil and aswell with turks,,You just need to study and stop deny albanians for there rights also,,
@ktm066 YOU LIVE IN A DREAM!...TIME TO WAKE UP!.. Macedonia and Macedonian Greeks have been located for at least 2,500 years just where the modern Greek province of Macedonia is. Exactly this same relationship is true for Attica and Athenian Greeks, Argos and Argive Greeks, Corinth and Corinthian Greeks, etc.
@nixter888 Athenian Greeks,well lets talk about them shell we greek?lets talk about how they speak the albanian dilect shell we greek?your the ones who live in the dream that epirus,macedonia,illyria,thracians, are all greek people fuck me for fuck sake herodotus and homer says they are not greek,,not everything is greek,it funny how albanian language understands more of the old people than your language?funny that,,as i said macedonians were more illyrian than greek.
@ktm066 In Greece they never spoke Albanian!...Are out of your mind or what!..You understand more old Greek than us,..you said!.........Ancient Greek and modern Greek is one and the same!...I DARE YOU TO TRY ME!
@ktm066 GIVE IT UP!...YOU HAVE NO CHANCE!................ALBANIAN.....TRY TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR YOUR COUNTRY ALBANIA,..TODAY,AND LEAVE THE BIG DREAMS ALONE!.......YOU HAVE LOST!!!
@nixter888 listen...were you always call greeks?NO were albanians always called albanians?No so how the fuck do you know who albanians are?How can you say that albanians didnt have a big part of history in balkans? you cant both nations share much dna and much features?So who are the greeks and albanians..since your country is a mixture of 2 diffrent dna witch are the greeks EV_13 or j2? as i said EMATHIA IS MORE GHEG ALBANIAN THAN GREEK?
@nixter888 I ahve read odyssey i have it on my computer,You see languages and writing went through a change.just like the greek language it has gone through many changes,,I have seen much albanian in homers writing in bits and pieces,,I wont lie there is much i cant understand but some i can...
@ktm066 THIS IS PURE GREEK... IDIOT!..IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS IN YOUR LANGUAGE THEY DERIVED FROM THE HOMERIC GREEK LANGUAGE!,,GREEK LANGUAGE GREEK LETTERS,GREEK MEANING!!!!..YOU'RE OUT OF THIS WORD!,,,YOU ARE TRYING TO KID WITH US IN FROND OF OUR EYES!..CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR TIME?
@nixter888 Then who are dorians?then why is there 2 diffrent language getting spoken in greece?If epiruts are greeks then why are they speaking albanian dilect?Why is albanians speaking a dilect that people from around athens,lemnos.and othe parts of greece?
The Dorians Greek: Δωριεῖς,were one of the four major tribes into which the Ancient Greeks of the Classical period divided themselves,...THEY WERE Greeks!..... Dorus was the son of Hellen, the mythological patriarch of the Hellenes!...NOBODY SPEAKS ALBANIAN IN GREECE!
We don't have to justify to you, ignorant people!.... Why do we bother with the most backward race of people in the whole of Europe???When the whole Balkans was going up in flames of revolution the Albo's fought to remain with their Ottoman masters!...You are the result of YOUR TURKISH FATHERS!...BEHAVE!
@nixter888 .You are the result of YOUR TURKISH FATHERS!...BEHAVE!,AM I,,Sorry i am not dark,,or do i have pure black hair..I have brown hair with hazel eyes,Albanians fought harder than greeks READ HISTORY,,,i am from the cathlic albanians of north albania,The ones who fucked turks up more than your whole nation,We were also the ones who declared war again in 1913 and so on,,,
@nixter888 So who are the arvanties?Are they dorians?are the arbreshes dorans?PLEASE SAY YES heheheh it will make you look like a complete dick head,Macedonians had another dilect that you greeks couldnt understand..face it,,
@ktm066 Arvanites today self-identify as Greeks!....IDIOT!..If you try to tell them they are Albanians ..they will kill you!....They are Greeks forgotten in Albania since ancient times ,in the Greek colonies of Albania,who came to Greece,after you took their place,ARVANON away from them!...Behave!
@nixter888 thye have never been fogotten EVER,,If they are greek then so am i, wE NEVER TOOK THERE PLACE WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE AND WE FOUGHT WITH THEM AGAINST THE OTTOMANS,SOME FOUGHT AGAINST THEM BUT ALOT DIDNT INFACT IT WAS ONLY 7,000 ALBANIANS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THEM NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING POPULATION OF ALBANIANS,,YOU THINK ALBANIANS OF TODAY ARE MIXTURE OF TURKISH,,BUT YOU NEVER HAVE BEEN SO WRONG,,ARVANTIES ARE ALBANIAN 100%
@nixter888 THEY MAY FEEL GREEK BECAUSE THEY FEEL BETRAYED BY SOME OF THERE BROTHERS BUT NOT ALL OF US BETRAYED THEM,,I HAVE WHITE SKIN WITH HAZEL EYES WITH BROWN HAIR JUST LIKE MOST OF THE ARVANTIES,MOST OF US ALBANIANS KEPT ALL OUR TRADITIONS THROUGH HARD TIMES,WE FOLLOWED THE KANUN OF i LEKE DUKAGJINIT WITCH WAS INFORCED BY SCANDERBEG AND LEKE DUKAGJINIT THE CHRISTAIN ALBANIAN PRINCE
@ktm066 Arvanites are Greeks!..You are not Greek!.. Arvanites in Greece typically object to being associated with the Albanian nation or being called an "ethnic minority", since they have a strong feeling of being ethnically Greek ,and take offense at being called Albanians!...
@nixter888 Oh i know im not greek i was usiong that as a sentence..They are 100% ALBANIANS<go ask arbreshes who they are?they will tell you brainwashed albanians...dont lie please..they are albo,bu blood ,folk,traditions and language,,,and by features we are still here greek we never went anywhere we know who they are,,
@ktm066 They are not Albanians!..They are Greeks,like the Βορειοηπειρώτες Vorioipirotes, in Albanian,These Greek population has suffered from the prohibition of the Greek language,and their right to identify them selves as Greeks!..The same thing happened with the Arvanites of Greece,when they were still in Albania, hundreds of years ago! their language is mixed Greek,60%and Albanian 40%......
@nixter888 stop deny.the arvantie language is 70% albanian and 30% greek,stop lies greek.the migration of arvanties to greece was in 1300s,,as i said ask arbreshes who they are you lying pice off shit,,i can understand them and you cant,,,why not go into greek translater and type in arvanties words and see what comes up you stupid greek,,you lie soooo much you belive the bullshit you speak,,now you make me angry,,,it is in your blood to lie,and to steal,.arvanties are albanian,nothing less,
@ktm066 lets see some facts?Arvanites, a population group in Greece. Arvanitika is today an endangered language, as its speakers have been shifting to the use of Greek and most younger members of the community no longer speak it.[2],linguistic scholarship unanimously describes Arvanitika as a dialect of Albanian[
Similarly, the Ethnologue lists a separate sub-entry for "Albanian, Arvanitika" ([6]), along with parallel entries for Gheg Albanian, Tosk Albanian and Arbëresh[8].
Arvanites in Greece originated from Albanian settlers who moved south at different times between the 13th and 16th century/Some later movements are also believed to have been motivated to evade Islamization after the Ottoman conquest. The main waves of migration into southern Greece started around 1300, reached a peak some time during the 14th century, and ended around 1600.[7] Arvanites first reached Thessaly, then Attica, and finally the Peloponnese.[8]
The name Arvanites and its equivalents go back to an old ethnonym that used in Greek to refer to Albanians.[17][18] It originally referred to the inhabitants of that region Arvanon (Άρβανον) or Arvana (Άρβανα),[19] and then to all Albanian-speakers. In Albanian language the self-designation Arbëror, which is still in use by Arvanites and Arbëreshë of Italy, had been exchanged for the new name Shqiptarë since the 17th century
@ktm066 Those Arvanites from Arvanon are Greeks,who were trapped in your country,since ancient times and they mixed their language which was Greek with Albanian!...BEHAVE!
@nixter888 hahahahahh nice propaganda greek?lol and you still deny that they are albanian.they just use our old name..hahah trapped lol,,BEHAVE GREEK,,
@nixter888 using your words?they are not dorians they are albanian,the fact that it has been written down by your own greek writers about albanian migrating is funny,I am talking to you about arvanties and it was you greeks who wrote down there migration and also italia,,you are stupid boy,,they are albanian,,by the way then tell me who are arbreshes?i am betting you will say greek but they will tell you albanians?you tell false things,,albanians freed your people and you kill them..
@ktm066 HAHAHAHAHAH! What a clown! HAHAHAH! Dorians were not albanians. Dorians were one of the 3 groups which left from crete (minoan civilization) to spread the hellenic civilization. 3 groups = Dorians, Ions & Thesps. Albanians??? Yes.... Illyrians, who showed up after a lost greek traveller fucked a cavewoman in an unknown territory for ancient greece and the first illyrian came to life... Then that Illyrian said: "We existed for 2 million years".
You are free to go and ask them in Greece yourself face to face!.. Its been hundreds of years since they moved to Greece, and they themselves do not seem to like being pushed into an identity they dont identify with anyway. To me they are Greeks, full Greeks.
@ktm066 although these communities also espouse a Greek national identity nowadays.[4] The word Shqiptár is also used in a few villages of Thrace, where Arvanites migrated from the mountains of Pindus during the 19th century[21]While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the wish of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks has led to a stance of rejecting the identification of the language with Albanian as well
Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with local Arvanitic communities.[2
@nixter888 tHIS KANUN WAS INFORCE BECAUSE SOME ALBANIANS FOUGHT WITH THE OTTOMANS AND IF WE HAD THIS KANUN IT MEANS THE ONES WHO FOUGHT WITH THE OTTOMANS COULD NOT FIGHT AGAINST US WHO FOLLOWED THIS TRADITION BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT THERE FAMILYS IN RISK.MEANING WE WOULD KILL THEM AND THERE FAMILY,,SO MANY SERVANTS WHO HELPED OTTOMANS WOULDNT TRY HURT OTHER ALBANIANS,
@ktm066 Kanun i vjetër.Kanuni i Lekë Dukagjinit,The Kanun of Çermenikë,Kanuni i Papa Zhulit,,The Kanun of Labëria,,Kanuni i Skenderbeut..these are the kanuns of diffrent tribes,,The Kanun of Skanderbeg is the closest in version to the Kanun of Lekë Dukagjini.these are all still in use today,In my family we still use this tradition today,there is 10,000 familys left who use this traditions..
@nixter888 Yes you do have to justifiy to us?we have to with you,goes both ways,,you deny albanians from everything but it is 2 hard for you because soo much of albanians language and traditions are from ancient balkans...And even dna,,
They came down from the mountains because they took advantage of the gap that was created from the massacres by the ottomans to the christian populations of the balkans. just like it happen in kossovo.
Go steal a chicken or something, that's what the albanians are good at. You will fail in stealing greek history.
..A number of folk etymologies have repeatedly been used to tie historical Greco-Roman mythico-legendary figures to Albanian words. These attempts are somewhat extreme till stupid. For instance, the Albanian word det "sea" (dialectal dēt, Italo-Albanian dejt, dejët), which is traced by etymologists to *deubeta "depth", is redicusuly linked to the Greek titaness Tethys. Similar attempts have been made for Odysseus (Ulysses), Athena, Emathia, etc., most of which have other, real etymologies.}
when somebody decide to attack Greek people and their culture,or any people or any culture, he/she must have a lot of historical facts , which in this case do not exist.
Time to go back to school and search Internet for more information!.. Now that the Skopian troll appeared too, claiming history and genuinity, I must say the Greek proverb:.. ΔΥΟ ΓΑΙΔΑΡΟΙ ΜΑΛΩΝΑΝ ΣΕ ΞΕΝΟ ΑΧΥΡΩΝΑ!...=TWO DONKEYS WERE FIGHTING IN A FOREIGN PROPERTY!....BEHAVE!
You have serious issues! This is the funniest and the most absurd thing I've heard in quite a while. Are all you people delusional? This can be treated you know, if you ask for professional help. You need to have your head examined, it's filled with nonsense.
I won't even attempt to refute your arguments, they are so false that it hurts just to read them.
Countries like yours in order to find history, they have either to invent or to steal...
So, we can understand you easily, dont worry...
Aristoteles was from Tirana also?...Now that thanks to you I know that we have stolen from Albanians our language, history, civilisation etc,
I offer YOU immediately and voluntarily as a token of apology!!!Please, excuse us for not having all immigrated to Gobbi desert to leave you our country as a gift of hour.
@ktm066 GREEKS ALWAYS CALLED THEM SELVES GREEKS!..ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?.....IONIANS,EOLIANS,MACEDONIANS,DORIANS,ACHAIANS,MINOANS,TROJANS,ATHENIANS,SPARTANS,MYRMIDONS,THESSALIANS,EPEROTANS,CYCLADIANS,DANAEANS,MYCENAEANS,..PELASGIANS,ALL GREEKS,THOSE NAMES DERIVED FROM THEIR PLACE OF WHERE THEY HAD THEIR CITIES!..DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Epirus is called by Aristotle mother of the Greeks, meaning that in this land the Greek people first developed their culture as we see in the Dodons temple and other monuments.Epirots were actually of Dorian origin as we known from the alphabet we have from that time and moreover Pirro is recognized as a Greek hero.I
@nixter888 And how do you know that one of these people are not albanians?you dont know.you have no clue..as i said many times nixter albanians are very old people and have been around when these people were in there prime,,you greeks just angry that your old brothers changed religion,You see im christian and i dont give care what religion anyone is,As lond as they dont preach to me i am fine,,
@nixter888 THOSE NAMES DERIVED FROM THEIR PLACE OF WHERE THEY HAD THEIR CITIES!..Then what about all the citys that derrive from albanian language?Does this mean it is there people? you see you are not the onlyones who have much old citys and places that have meaning in albanian and no one else?what about the albanians who live in albania and kosova?they have most illyrian names and tribes and the meanings?you get me?why is it ok for greeks to say this and not albanians? WHY
@nixter888 Because you cant handle that there were alsoa race as old as you if not older?Use your brain and stop bullshit.and get over it albanias are as old as greeks...
@ktm066 We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero.
@nixter888 We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero.I agree with you 100% i know slavs dont belong in macedonia but i say macedonians were a people who spoke the gheg albanian dilect..
@ktm066 Another northern Greek, Aristotle, went off to study for nearly 20 years in the Academy of Plato. Aristotle subsequently returned to Macedonia and became the tutor of Alexander III. They used Greek in their classroom which can still be seen near Naoussa in Macedonia.
@nixter888 explian this,The world uses the alphabet now are they greek,is england greek?is usa greek?is all western countrys greek?NO they just use the alphabet to comunicate with eachother,,Just because a people used the greek alphabet doesnt mean they are greek,,it clearly says macedonians were not greek,
@ktm066 what in the world are you saying!....The English speak English,..In Greece they spoke Greek!...and we talking about language and not alphabet!...Are you stupid or what!
@ktm066 The questions follow: Why was Greek the lingua franca all over Alexander’s empire if he was a “FYROMIAN”? Why was the New Testament, for example, written in Greek.......The answers are clear: Alexander the Great was Greek, not Slavic,or Albanian, and Slavs,and Albanians, and their language were nowhere near Alexander or his homeland until 1000 years later.
@nixter888 alexadra spoke his mother tung and it was not greek,?he spoke 2 other languages,as you say if epirus is greek then it cant be epirus as you said also illyrian were a greek people so it cant be illyiran as they are both greek?then who was it because if epirus and illyrian were greek then there was no need to speak another language other than greek? historians also have prooved he spoke anothe language also and that greek wasnt his mother language?
@ktm066 The Macedonians were from the Dorians raceThe Dorians were pure Greeks. Various attempts to derive one section of them from Illyrian origins have been unsuccessful. The fact that the Dorians were Greek naturally presupposes that the tribes of which they were composed were also Greek, and these include the Makednoi or Makedones, at a date earlier than the fourteenth century b.c....
The people called by the Persians 'Greeks whose head¬dress is like a shield' are therefore identified with the Macedonians...In a fragment of Hellanikos (fifth century B.C.), Makedon, the mythical founder of the Macedonians, appears as the son of Aiolos. This genealogical relationship reflects the idea that the Macedonians were a section of the Aiolians, a sub-division of the Greek race
After the battle of Issos, Alexander the Great sent a let¬ter to Darius that began as follows: 'Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us much harm though we had done them no prior injury; I have been appointed commander-in-chief of the Greeks and in¬vaded Asia in the desire to take vengeance on Persia for your aggressions..From this extract it emerges clearly that Alexander regarded Macedonia as a Greek country!
The ambassador of this same king, in his address to the Aitolians in 200 B.C., ranged the Macedonians with the Greeks and not with the 'foreigners' (αλλοεθνείς) and 'barbarians' (βάρβαροι).
From the time that Alexander I asserted at Olympia that he was Greek, and the tradition that the Macedonian dynasty was descended from the Temenids of Argos became generally known, it was commonly accepted by the Greeks that the Macedonian royal family was part of the Greek The hypothesis that the Macedonians were Greeks is supported by all the reliable evidence: the ancient tradition that the Dorians were descended from a section of the Macedonians.
The legacy he left behind from Anatolia to India was as Greek as his settlers could make it, right down to a theater, gymnasium, and inscribed copy of the Delphic maxims in a far corner of Afghanistan.
With the city-states to the south is hardly an argument against his Hellenic heritage; it only means that Macedonia remained more Homeric than Athens, Thebes, or Sparta. It is hard to be more Greek than that. Nor should we be troubled by Alexander’s ability to speak a Macedonian dialect or by his interest in the world beyond Greece itself. Alexander was a man of the world, certainly, but he was a man from Macedonian Greece. According to Arrian 2.14.4,...
Alexander said this himself in a letter to the Persian king Darius:
Alexander sent a reply to Darius by way of Thersippos, who went back with the Persian envoys. Alexander’s letter states as follows: “Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece, inflicting evils upon us without provocation…”
Here Alexander’s point seems clear—Macedonia was historically a part of Greece.
@nixter888..... This will be plain if we first define truth and falsehood. To say that what is is not, or that what is not is, is false; but to say that what is is, and what is not is not, is true; and therefore also he who says that a thing is or is not will say either what is true or what is false. (Aristotle, Metaphysics)
@nixter888 The pseudo-Makedonist regime in Skopje ,and Albania,have elevated fraud to the level of science, and it has correspondingly reduced science to being the contemptible paramour of their repulsive politics of hatred, ultra-nationalist bigotry and ethnic intolerance.
@nixter888 not true since there was no migration of the albanians to balkans explains also that there were people who were living in balkans that were not greek,i tell you something the gheg albanian language is very very old it is the oldest language out of all albanian people.the tosks spoke once the same language as ghegs but were very influeced by greeks because they both lived with eachother but the northern albanians lived sicluded from you greeks the result of that is the high dna of them
@nixter888 of ev-13,my language out dates 1000yrs later of alexandra,I also want to ask you question did the greek alphabet get created around 4000bc?because im unsure because in kosova there was a stone found and on it it reads TY ET, and it is dated 6000bc weird very,,because this TY ET is albanian language and is still in use today and we dont have to change nothing..you see more mistakes of modern greek.
@nixter888 Not to mention in kosova as we speak a great big illyrian dardanian castle is getting unearthed now..upliana infact,,cant wait.truth is coming out slowly...
@ktm066 Skopje,and Albania they have to understand that they cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.
@nixter888 137. Now of this Alexander the seventh ancestor was that Perdiccas who first became despot of the Macedonians, and that in the manner which here follows:–From Argos there fled to the Illyrians three brothers of the descendents of Temenos, Gauanes, Aëropos, and Perdiccas; and passing over from the Illyrians into the upper parts of Macedonia they came to the city of Lebaia.
@nixter888 remember this>?“The Macedonians are going to judge your case,” he said. “Please state whether you will use your native language before them. Philotas: “Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you.
@nixter888 Then the king said: “Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases – only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language”. The key phrase [Curtius(2) Hist. Alex. Magni Maced., IV, I11.4.: ] ” . . . Macedonatus, homines linguae suae per interpretem audire,” (“. . . born a Macedonian, to hear the men of his language through an interpreter,”
@ktm066 WHEN THE GREEKS GO TO CYPRUS IN THE VILLAGES ,THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CYPRIOTS SAYING WHEN THEY TALK!..BUT THEIR LANGUAGE IS GREEK DIALECT!...BEHAVE NOW!!!!
@nixter888 Despite the possessing of Greek culture and language, Macedonians never lost their native tongue and were proud of it. Many historical sources are written in Greek, and it was a common practice among Greek historians to hellenize foreign names. For example, the name of the powerful first king of the Persian empire, Kuruš, ought to be transcribed as Kourous or Kouroux in Greek, but became Kyros, because this looks like a Greek word (“Mr. Almighty”
@ktm066 The prehistoric settlement of Dispilio is situated at the site Nisi, on the southern shore of Kastoria lake. It was located in 1932, when the lake level fell, and at the point where Nisi was separated from the lakeshore, remains of wooden posts became visible,..on a wooden tablet that was found at the archeologic site of Dispilio at Kastoria and dated by the method of C14 at the 'Dimokritos' research center to 5260 BC. IT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK LETTERS!
@nixter888 So, the fact that Greek authors use Greek names for Macedonian people and deities does not prove very much about the Macedonian language. There is evidence that Greeks were unable to understand people who were makedonizein, “speaking Macedonian”. The Macedonian king Alexander the Great was not understood by the Greeks when he shouted an order in his native tongue and the Greek commander Eumenes needed a translator to address the soldiers of the Macedonian phalanx
@nixter888 IT IS IN DEED GREEK HISTORY?IS IT?how do you know that for sure.faults are in the people who wrote greeks history.look you greeks are old and i respect that but you you also have to respect that albanians are fucking very very old,both greek and albanians were living with eachother for thousnads of yrs befor any slavnic was in balkans.And albanians are not going anywhere.
@ktm066 Good try to get some glory,from the Greeks!...You did nothing ...my friend!,...Greeks did everything!,,,I don't know any ancient Albanian to have discover anything ever!...Nobody wrote false Greek history,...in the sacred grounds of my country, and in my coded very ancient language lies the truth!
The world learns Pythagorean THEOREM Archimedian POLYHEDRONS,EUCLID GEOMETRY,DEMOCRITUS ETHICS!ARISTOTLE METAPHYSICS,and many more!!!you learn nothing Indian in school!!!you learn Greek mathematics!!even the chines,the Egyptians the Americans,the Austalians!THE ENTIRE WORLD!..They also learn HERACLITEAN logos,Hermetic knowledge,Homeric hymns and poems,SOLONEAN LAW,CLEISTHENEAN DEMOCRACY,ARISTARCHEAN ASTRONOMY ,and the story goes on and on!
.in the Universities of the world they teach Pythagorean theorem ,Euclidean geometry, Orphic Mysteries,Aristotelian,logic and philosophy ,SOCRATEAN PHILOSOPHY ,ARCHIMEDEAN PRINCIPALS!..NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE!
@nixter888 NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE!we were not always called albanians.just like you were not always called greece..and just like macedonia EMATHIA,just like kosova just like montenegro,just like turkey,and many other old countyrs,,you prove nothing,,you think because our name of our country is called albania doesnt mean we were not part of the old people of balkans...you silly..
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
we do and always did have a civilization. the problem is that you probably don't, so you think everybody's like that. Greece has artists and philosophs that you can't even imagine...
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
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@TheBlinked1 are the fable sunken cities of the Aegean, for thousands of years , stolen from Egypt?...You mast not embarrass your self anymore!...BEHAVE!
Hahahahahaha 1L1R1A wrote swomthig fantastic and I quote:
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture.
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Devoj4E 6 months ago
OPA ! i love greece ;d check out my videos aswell from greece :D efcaristo. yamas
erstatning 8 months ago
Close your ,mouth Albanaki,..Leave your dreams and wake up!
nixter888 9 months ago
Seriously, why all the nonsense about "macedonn vs. greek vs. slav vs. albanian vs. BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!
stfu and love GREECE! its freaquinn A M A Z I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrtundra45 10 months ago
and how old do you think albanians are and there dna? Albanians are as old as greeks if not older and from the balkans
ktm066 10 months ago
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dexameron 11 months ago
greks you dumb ass gypsy beggars come to Albania and clean our toilets and give us your women for some Albanian service we will pay well in olives currency.
hehehe...bankrupy gypsy nation Alexander was a real man that means that he was Albanian cos one of us equals 100 gayreks.
1L1R1A 11 months ago
@1L1R1A Are u living underground? is it cold? do u need any blankets? dont worry the Greeks sooner or later will find u...! and please dont even compare us with u, u low life criminals of this world!
BEWARE...........
You are talking about my countrys history? and u emphasise on gays? .Thats how much u know cause all ur history was, is murdering, backstabbing, raping and selling drugs and arms!! thats who u r...and thats why u r proud of! ....Scum!!!
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nixter888 11 months ago
You modify history. You claim that because Alexander's mother was from the Greek region of Epirus which is next to Illyria. His mother was Greek. Ancient Epirus was Greek.
Albanians stop stealing. It's against the law.
nixter888 11 months ago
Alexander was born on 20 July 356 BC,in Pella, the capital of the Kingdom of Macedon. He was the son of Philip II, the Greek King of Macedon. His mother was Philip's fourth wife Olympias, the daughter of the Greek Neoptolemus I, the king of Epirus.....
nixter888 11 months ago
He had a Greek education.. Many people were passed over including Isocrates and Speusippus, the latter of whom was Plato's successor at the Academy and who offered to resign to take up the post. In the end, Philip offered the job to Aristotle, who accepted, and Philip gave them the Temple of the Nymphs at Mieza as their classroom. ..........NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE ......JEALOUS AND IDIOT MAN!....OUST!!!!!!!
nixter888 11 months ago
@nixter888 Greek region of Epirus,thats fucking bullshit.just like macedonia tell greek what does emathia mean in greek?you cant tell me can you?.epirus was part of albanian land aswell,if alexandra was greek then his father would not have destroyed greece,its funny how he allied with illyria and epirus both are where albanians are from.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Emathea= Ημαθοης = ο αμμωδεις (λεξικο Σουδα) =Soudas dictionary....
Ημαθια =η αμμουδερή =sandy .Do you want anything else, ΑΛΒΑΝΕ;
nixter888 10 months ago
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 lol dont lie.see how many times you had to try change words to find this word,,it has no meaning in greek you know it and so do i..If this is the way you try find meanings then fuck i can have the whole greek citys named in my language,emathia was macedonia you lie,FACT,you onlt class macedonia as greek because coins with alexandra on it...It doesnt mean he is greek it means he was a hero to all people,.,even albanians.,,free epirus from the greeks,,macedonia is macedonia not greek
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 You mean free Epirus from the Albanians!,,,Epirus has been occupied since at least Neolithic times, by seafarers along the coast and hunters and shepherds in the interior, who have brought with them the Greek language. These people buried their leaders in large tumuli containing shaft graves, similar to the Mycenaean tombs, indicating an ancestral link between Epirus and the Mycenean civilization
nixter888 10 months ago
Epirus was inhabited by the same nomadic Hellenic tribes that went on to settle in the rest of Greece. Aristotle considered the region around Dodona to have been part of Hellas and the region where the Hellenes originated.By the early 1st millennium BC, the population of Epirus consisted of three principal clusters of Greek-speaking tribes: the Chaonians in northwestern Epirus, the Molossians in the centre and the Thesprotians in the south.BEHAVE NOW!
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 I DID NOT CHANGE ANY WORDS!...I GAVE ALL THE ROOTS OF THE WORD EMATHIA AND WHERE IT CAME FROM!!!!WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU SAYING?
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 I will do same thing ready,E Madhia in albanian means the greatest,,i didnt have to change nothing,what about montenegro,, ma i zi..these words are 100% thracian...see i dont change nothing.macedonians were illyrian not greek,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 At the beginning of the second millennium B.C., the area later known as Macedonia was inhabited principally by Illyrians in the west and Thracians in the east. During the second millennium B.C. the ancient Greeks descended in several waves of migration from the interior of the Balkans into what is now Greece. Some passed through the Morava-Vardar Valley and across the plain of Thessaly on their way south. Others traveled through Epirus
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Some scholars recently suggested that Asia Minor was the original Greek homeland.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Ancient Greek writers used the name Pelasgians (Greek: Pelasgoí, s. Pelasgós) to refer to groups of people who preceded the Hellenes and still dwelt in several locations in mainland Greece, Crete, and other regions of the Aegean, as neighbors of the Hellenes, into the 5th century
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Pelasgians were Greeks and only Greeks,..Do not kid your self!....Even if they spoke a dialect of Greek,they were my ancestors ,,THEY LIVE IN THE SAME PLACE, THE GREEKS LIVE TODAY,...THEY BECAME ONE!...WHEN A PERSON HAS A MOTHER LET'S SAY FROM SPAIN,AND A FATHER FROM ITALY,HE IS BOTH SPANISH AND ITALIAN!...PELASGIANS WERE MY ANCESTORS AND NOT YOURS!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 he whole ‘Haemus’ continent, from the borders of Thrace and Macedonia to the extreme point of Peloponnesus and in North as far as Danube, was peopled with the great Pelasgian nation.However, it is agreed that Pelasgians had spoken a “barbaric” (non-Greek) language.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 he Albanians have as much right to the name of modern Pelasgians as the modern Greeks have to their name. And in fact the Jews living in the Levant continue to apply to them the name Pelishtim (the Hebrew corrupted form of Pelasgian)
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 The original Macedonian kingdom. While it is reasonable to argue that the original Macedones who emerged in Emathia in the eighth century were a homogeneous group, this is not true of the great Macedon kingdom at the time of Alexander the Great. A majority of the population of that kingdom was not Macedonian, but Illyrian and Thracian. There were many different tribes that Philip II welded together to form the Macedon nation
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 It is widely accepted that the mythical claim of “Hellenic descent” of Macedonian kings was a smart diplomatic effort of them to gain Hellenic credentials and privileges among the Hellenes. But this supposed ‘Heracleid’ origin had no weight at all since during all the time Greeks and Macedonians contested such claim. In the eyes of each other, Macedonians perceived Greeks as a foreign people as well as Greeks perceived Macedonians and their king
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Polybius, in his work The Histories, describes the treaty made between Hannibal and Philip V of Macedon, clearly stating that Macedonia was a part of what he perceived as Greece and that Macedonians were Greeks.He also includes in his work the speech of Lyciscus the Acarnanian who, addressing to Cleonicus and Chlaeneas, the Aetolian envoys at the assembly of Sparta, refers to the racial kinship between Aetolians, Achaeans and Macedonians
nixter888 10 months ago
Thucydides, in his work History of the Peloponnesian War, concurs with Herodotus, stating that Alexander Ι of Macedon (father of Perdiccas II of Macedon) and his ancestors the Temenidae, originally came from Argos,and they were Greeks,and they spoke Greek!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 [Demosthenes, 3rd Philippic 31]. In 480 BC, the Macedonian king Alexander I attempted to participate in the Olympic Games, and met with resistance by competitors, who regarded him as a non-Greek. Even Alexander the Great himself despised the arrogance of Greeks in his Macedonian army during Asiatic exploits..Do not the Greeks appear to you to walk about among Macedonians like demi-gods among wild beasts?” [Plutarch, The life of Alexander, 51, 2].
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Demosthenes out of rage he said ...to Phillip ,you are not Greek not even barbarian!...it was an expression he was using when he was mad,..He meant that Philip was harsh!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 One of the significant sites which illustrates their presence [the presence of the Illyrian tribes] is the one in the vicinity of the neighboring villages Vergina and Palatitsia, at the foot of the Pirin Range, which projects above the southwestern corner of the Emathia Plain, twenty kilometers from Methone on the land and seven or eight kilometers in the south from the coasts of the lower Haliacmon River.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 archaeological picture there shows the presence of an Illyrian population from 800 B.C. until the middle of the seventh century. Further to the south, on the slopes of Mt. Titarion and the Pirin Mountains as well as the northern extensions of Mt. Olympus lived Macedons, who gave their name to the region Macedonia.”
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Also, the ancient traditions show that prior to the Macedonian hegemony, the territories north of mount Olymp were called “Illyria”. This is what Herodotus (8.137) confirms:137.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 In Greek mythology, Makednos was the mythical progenitor and eponymous ancestor of the Macedonians. According to Hesiod's Catalogue of Women, Makednos was the son of Zeus and Thyia, the daughter of Deucalion and Pyrrha, and brother of Magnes.On the other hand, Hellanicus of Lesbos' later genealogy lists Makednos as the son of Aeolus, the founder of the Aeolian tribe, and thus a grandson of Hellen, the mythological patriarch of the Hellenes...AS YOU CAN SEE ,THEY WERE GREEKS EVEN BEFORE !
nixter888 10 months ago
Herodotus, in his work Histories, talks about the origin of the Macedonian royal house, the Argead dynasty, from the city of Argos, in the Peloponnese, and the lineage of Temenus, a descendant of Heracles, thus they were also known as Temenides. He also writes that the Macedonians were a Greek tribe from which the Dorians originated!,,,,NOTHING ALBANIAN!
nixter888 10 months ago
The territory the Illyrians covered came to be known as Illyria to Greek and Roman authors, corresponding to parts of the former Yugoslavia and Albania, between the Adriatic Sea in the west, the Drava river in the north....You are Albanians and many historian do not think that you have anything to do with the Illirians ether!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 herodotus also said that the dorians had no prevliages in greece because they spoke diffrent language,,,I also have read much to nixter?Macedonians were a Greek tribe from which the Dorians originated!,,Witch page because i have read much,please tell?dorians so alost of greeks say are the tosk dilect ?yes thats what i have hurd from other greeks?Then answer who are albanians?MACEDONIANS WERE ILLYRIANS NOT GREEKS,THEY SPOKE DIFFRENT LANGUAGE TO YOU GREEKS,,PHILLIP MARRIED A ILLYRIAN
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 AND A EPIRUT.BOTH NONE GREEKS,if epirus was greek land then why didnt greeks take back there land thousands of years ago but instead 1913 from albanians?Why they didnt before because it was never greek it was the people who fled from you barbarians who came from asia minor....in 1913 greeks and serbs took much albanians land are you going to deny that?You seem smart then you would know this,,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 The fact that you greeks and stupid carpathian gypsy serbian goat fucking filthy pigs,,That insult was to serbs,,are the only people who deny our culture,,But then take much from us,,I saw a serbians video on here with serbs wearing the northern albanian PLIS,,aka scull cap do you belive that shit fucking pigs they are,,anyway albanians have much in there language that use cant deny they can explain things that greeks cant and meanings?And if you say albanians didnt have a writing system
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 I THINK YOU TURN THE STORY AROUND !...I TOLD YOU BEFORE!..THERE IS NOTHING THE GREEKS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THEIR LANGUAGE!...DO NOT KID YOUR SELF!
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 then THINK my language is older than writing system itself and so is yours..My language was translated into the alphabet,,we can explain illyrain tribes and dardanian kings from epirut princess to dardanian princess,,to the places in montenegro, and in kosova,we have all names of old places like the word NIS that hasnt changed for years and in montenegro ulqin shkoder,and many more...this is our land and where we are from and no mother fucker greeks or gypsy
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 EPIRUS IS A GREEK LAND,AND ONE DAY IT'S GOING TO BE OURS AGAIN! AS FOR THE WRITING I TOLD YOU,....DISPILIO TABLEDS ARE GREEK!..SO ARE THE The Vinča tablets!.. The script, deciphered and is identifying signs for "bear", "bird" and "goddess". The whorl inscriptions would read "bear — goddess — bird — goddess — bear — goddess– or "the bear goddess and the bird goddess are really a single bear goddess",and that attributes in Greek goddess Artemis.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 ARTEMIS WHAT DOES THIS MEAN IN GREEK?IN ALBANIAN IT MEANS GOLD MINE.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 OH MY GOD!....Aρτεμης" : (Από τη λέξη "αρτεμές" = ακεραιότητα).Artemis from the word Artemes which means boundless, integral, uncorrupted....ANYTHING ELSE?
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 serbian pig monkey carpathian goat donkey muts are going to get rid of us,,albanians only have problems with greeks because they insult with the turkish bullshit,I never had problem with greeks until i signed up to YT,I mainly have problems with serbs they make my blood boil and aswell with turks,,You just need to study and stop deny albanians for there rights also,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 lol you retard. In Greek mythology,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Retardation is YOUR game,...I DARE YOU TO TELL ME YOUR PART OF THE MACEDONIAN ,MYTHOLOGY,AND HISTORY!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 WE HAVE JUST AS MUCH WRITE TO AS YOU IN BALKANS,,,MACEDONIANS ARE MORE SIMULAR TO ALBANIANS THAN GREEK?THANX
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 YOU LIVE IN A DREAM!...TIME TO WAKE UP!.. Macedonia and Macedonian Greeks have been located for at least 2,500 years just where the modern Greek province of Macedonia is. Exactly this same relationship is true for Attica and Athenian Greeks, Argos and Argive Greeks, Corinth and Corinthian Greeks, etc.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 Athenian Greeks,well lets talk about them shell we greek?lets talk about how they speak the albanian dilect shell we greek?your the ones who live in the dream that epirus,macedonia,illyria,thracians, are all greek people fuck me for fuck sake herodotus and homer says they are not greek,,not everything is greek,it funny how albanian language understands more of the old people than your language?funny that,,as i said macedonians were more illyrian than greek.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 In Greece they never spoke Albanian!...Are out of your mind or what!..You understand more old Greek than us,..you said!.........Ancient Greek and modern Greek is one and the same!...I DARE YOU TO TRY ME!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 HOMERIC HAS MUCH ALBANIAN,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 HOMERIC DOES NOT HAVE ANY ALBANIAN!..DO NOT EMBARRASS YOUR SELF ANYMORE!!!!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 v=97NS-uZMohw read some facts..
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 GIVE IT UP!...YOU HAVE NO CHANCE!................ALBANIAN.....TRY TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR YOUR COUNTRY ALBANIA,..TODAY,AND LEAVE THE BIG DREAMS ALONE!.......YOU HAVE LOST!!!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 listen...were you always call greeks?NO were albanians always called albanians?No so how the fuck do you know who albanians are?How can you say that albanians didnt have a big part of history in balkans? you cant both nations share much dna and much features?So who are the greeks and albanians..since your country is a mixture of 2 diffrent dna witch are the greeks EV_13 or j2? as i said EMATHIA IS MORE GHEG ALBANIAN THAN GREEK?
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 I DARE YOU TO READ THE ODYSSEY IN THE HOMES WORDS,AND BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND!...SMART ASS!
nixter888 10 months ago
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πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσε·
πολλῶν δ’ ἀνθρώπων ἴδεν ἄστεα καὶ νόον ἔγνω,
πολλὰ δ’ ὅ γ’ ἐν πόντῳ πάθεν ἄλγεα ὃν κατὰ θυμόν,
ἀρνύμενος ἥν τε ψυχὴν καὶ νόστον ἑταίρων.
ἀλλ' οὐδ' ὧς ἑτάρους ἐρρύσατο, ἱέμενός περ·
αὐτῶν γὰρ σφετέρῃσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὄλοντο,
νήπιοι, οἳ κατὰ βοῦς Ὑπερίονος Ἠελίοιο
ἤσθιον· αὐτὰρ ὁ τοῖσιν ἀφείλετο νόστιμον ἦμαρ.
τῶν ἁμόθεν γε, θεά, θύγατερ Διός, εἰπὲ καὶ ἡμῖν.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 HOMER'S
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 I ahve read odyssey i have it on my computer,You see languages and writing went through a change.just like the greek language it has gone through many changes,,I have seen much albanian in homers writing in bits and pieces,,I wont lie there is much i cant understand but some i can...
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 THIS IS PURE GREEK... IDIOT!..IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS IN YOUR LANGUAGE THEY DERIVED FROM THE HOMERIC GREEK LANGUAGE!,,GREEK LANGUAGE GREEK LETTERS,GREEK MEANING!!!!..YOU'RE OUT OF THIS WORD!,,,YOU ARE TRYING TO KID WITH US IN FROND OF OUR EYES!..CAN'T YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR TIME?
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 Then who are dorians?then why is there 2 diffrent language getting spoken in greece?If epiruts are greeks then why are they speaking albanian dilect?Why is albanians speaking a dilect that people from around athens,lemnos.and othe parts of greece?
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 WHAT THE HELL?
The Dorians Greek: Δωριεῖς,were one of the four major tribes into which the Ancient Greeks of the Classical period divided themselves,...THEY WERE Greeks!..... Dorus was the son of Hellen, the mythological patriarch of the Hellenes!...NOBODY SPEAKS ALBANIAN IN GREECE!
nixter888 10 months ago
We don't have to justify to you, ignorant people!.... Why do we bother with the most backward race of people in the whole of Europe???When the whole Balkans was going up in flames of revolution the Albo's fought to remain with their Ottoman masters!...You are the result of YOUR TURKISH FATHERS!...BEHAVE!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 .You are the result of YOUR TURKISH FATHERS!...BEHAVE!,AM I,,Sorry i am not dark,,or do i have pure black hair..I have brown hair with hazel eyes,Albanians fought harder than greeks READ HISTORY,,,i am from the cathlic albanians of north albania,The ones who fucked turks up more than your whole nation,We were also the ones who declared war again in 1913 and so on,,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 So who are the arvanties?Are they dorians?are the arbreshes dorans?PLEASE SAY YES heheheh it will make you look like a complete dick head,Macedonians had another dilect that you greeks couldnt understand..face it,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Arvanites today self-identify as Greeks!....IDIOT!..If you try to tell them they are Albanians ..they will kill you!....They are Greeks forgotten in Albania since ancient times ,in the Greek colonies of Albania,who came to Greece,after you took their place,ARVANON away from them!...Behave!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 thye have never been fogotten EVER,,If they are greek then so am i, wE NEVER TOOK THERE PLACE WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE AND WE FOUGHT WITH THEM AGAINST THE OTTOMANS,SOME FOUGHT AGAINST THEM BUT ALOT DIDNT INFACT IT WAS ONLY 7,000 ALBANIANS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THEM NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING POPULATION OF ALBANIANS,,YOU THINK ALBANIANS OF TODAY ARE MIXTURE OF TURKISH,,BUT YOU NEVER HAVE BEEN SO WRONG,,ARVANTIES ARE ALBANIAN 100%
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 THEY MAY FEEL GREEK BECAUSE THEY FEEL BETRAYED BY SOME OF THERE BROTHERS BUT NOT ALL OF US BETRAYED THEM,,I HAVE WHITE SKIN WITH HAZEL EYES WITH BROWN HAIR JUST LIKE MOST OF THE ARVANTIES,MOST OF US ALBANIANS KEPT ALL OUR TRADITIONS THROUGH HARD TIMES,WE FOLLOWED THE KANUN OF i LEKE DUKAGJINIT WITCH WAS INFORCED BY SCANDERBEG AND LEKE DUKAGJINIT THE CHRISTAIN ALBANIAN PRINCE
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Arvanites are Greeks!..You are not Greek!.. Arvanites in Greece typically object to being associated with the Albanian nation or being called an "ethnic minority", since they have a strong feeling of being ethnically Greek ,and take offense at being called Albanians!...
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 Oh i know im not greek i was usiong that as a sentence..They are 100% ALBANIANS<go ask arbreshes who they are?they will tell you brainwashed albanians...dont lie please..they are albo,bu blood ,folk,traditions and language,,,and by features we are still here greek we never went anywhere we know who they are,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 They are not Albanians!..They are Greeks,like the Βορειοηπειρώτες Vorioipirotes, in Albanian,These Greek population has suffered from the prohibition of the Greek language,and their right to identify them selves as Greeks!..The same thing happened with the Arvanites of Greece,when they were still in Albania, hundreds of years ago! their language is mixed Greek,60%and Albanian 40%......
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 stop deny.the arvantie language is 70% albanian and 30% greek,stop lies greek.the migration of arvanties to greece was in 1300s,,as i said ask arbreshes who they are you lying pice off shit,,i can understand them and you cant,,,why not go into greek translater and type in arvanties words and see what comes up you stupid greek,,you lie soooo much you belive the bullshit you speak,,now you make me angry,,,it is in your blood to lie,and to steal,.arvanties are albanian,nothing less,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 lets see some facts?Arvanites, a population group in Greece. Arvanitika is today an endangered language, as its speakers have been shifting to the use of Greek and most younger members of the community no longer speak it.[2],linguistic scholarship unanimously describes Arvanitika as a dialect of Albanian[
ktm066 10 months ago
Similarly, the Ethnologue lists a separate sub-entry for "Albanian, Arvanitika" ([6]), along with parallel entries for Gheg Albanian, Tosk Albanian and Arbëresh[8].
ktm066 10 months ago
"[l]inguistically, there is no doubt that [Arvanitika] is a variety of Albanian".
In terms of "ausbau" (sociolinguistic "upgrading" towards an autonomous standard language),
ktm066 10 months ago
Arvanites in Greece originated from Albanian settlers who moved south at different times between the 13th and 16th century/Some later movements are also believed to have been motivated to evade Islamization after the Ottoman conquest. The main waves of migration into southern Greece started around 1300, reached a peak some time during the 14th century, and ended around 1600.[7] Arvanites first reached Thessaly, then Attica, and finally the Peloponnese.[8]
ktm066 10 months ago
The name Arvanites and its equivalents go back to an old ethnonym that used in Greek to refer to Albanians.[17][18] It originally referred to the inhabitants of that region Arvanon (Άρβανον) or Arvana (Άρβανα),[19] and then to all Albanian-speakers. In Albanian language the self-designation Arbëror, which is still in use by Arvanites and Arbëreshë of Italy, had been exchanged for the new name Shqiptarë since the 17th century
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Those Arvanites from Arvanon are Greeks,who were trapped in your country,since ancient times and they mixed their language which was Greek with Albanian!...BEHAVE!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 hahahahahh nice propaganda greek?lol and you still deny that they are albanian.they just use our old name..hahah trapped lol,,BEHAVE GREEK,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Stop using my words,..They are Greeks,...They are Dorians,and you can never change that!...BEHAVE ALBANAKI!.
Your attempt to associate them with a possible albanian consioussness has failed!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 using your words?they are not dorians they are albanian,the fact that it has been written down by your own greek writers about albanian migrating is funny,I am talking to you about arvanties and it was you greeks who wrote down there migration and also italia,,you are stupid boy,,they are albanian,,by the way then tell me who are arbreshes?i am betting you will say greek but they will tell you albanians?you tell false things,,albanians freed your people and you kill them..
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 HAHAHAHAHAH! What a clown! HAHAHAH! Dorians were not albanians. Dorians were one of the 3 groups which left from crete (minoan civilization) to spread the hellenic civilization. 3 groups = Dorians, Ions & Thesps. Albanians??? Yes.... Illyrians, who showed up after a lost greek traveller fucked a cavewoman in an unknown territory for ancient greece and the first illyrian came to life... Then that Illyrian said: "We existed for 2 million years".
HAHAHAHAHA Even a baboon is smarter than u!
tonysoldan 5 months ago
You are free to go and ask them in Greece yourself face to face!.. Its been hundreds of years since they moved to Greece, and they themselves do not seem to like being pushed into an identity they dont identify with anyway. To me they are Greeks, full Greeks.
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 although these communities also espouse a Greek national identity nowadays.[4] The word Shqiptár is also used in a few villages of Thrace, where Arvanites migrated from the mountains of Pindus during the 19th century[21]While Arvanitika was commonly called Albanian in Greece until the 20th century, the wish of Arvanites to express their ethnic identification as Greeks has led to a stance of rejecting the identification of the language with Albanian as well
ktm066 10 months ago
Arvanitika and Albanian has come to the forefront especially since the early 1990s, when a large number of Albanian immigrants began to enter Greece and came into contact with local Arvanitic communities.[2
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 STOP LIES OK,,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 tHIS KANUN WAS INFORCE BECAUSE SOME ALBANIANS FOUGHT WITH THE OTTOMANS AND IF WE HAD THIS KANUN IT MEANS THE ONES WHO FOUGHT WITH THE OTTOMANS COULD NOT FIGHT AGAINST US WHO FOLLOWED THIS TRADITION BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT THERE FAMILYS IN RISK.MEANING WE WOULD KILL THEM AND THERE FAMILY,,SO MANY SERVANTS WHO HELPED OTTOMANS WOULDNT TRY HURT OTHER ALBANIANS,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Kanun i vjetër.Kanuni i Lekë Dukagjinit,The Kanun of Çermenikë,Kanuni i Papa Zhulit,,The Kanun of Labëria,,Kanuni i Skenderbeut..these are the kanuns of diffrent tribes,,The Kanun of Skanderbeg is the closest in version to the Kanun of Lekë Dukagjini.these are all still in use today,In my family we still use this tradition today,there is 10,000 familys left who use this traditions..
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Yes you do have to justifiy to us?we have to with you,goes both ways,,you deny albanians from everything but it is 2 hard for you because soo much of albanians language and traditions are from ancient balkans...And even dna,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 The only albanians in the history of archeology are the ones who were opening and stealing tombs !
The albanians were uncivilized, small tribes who were living high in the mountains of the west balkans.
nixter888 10 months ago
They came down from the mountains because they took advantage of the gap that was created from the massacres by the ottomans to the christian populations of the balkans. just like it happen in kossovo.
Go steal a chicken or something, that's what the albanians are good at. You will fail in stealing greek history.
nixter888 10 months ago
..A number of folk etymologies have repeatedly been used to tie historical Greco-Roman mythico-legendary figures to Albanian words. These attempts are somewhat extreme till stupid. For instance, the Albanian word det "sea" (dialectal dēt, Italo-Albanian dejt, dejët), which is traced by etymologists to *deubeta "depth", is redicusuly linked to the Greek titaness Tethys. Similar attempts have been made for Odysseus (Ulysses), Athena, Emathia, etc., most of which have other, real etymologies.}
nixter888 10 months ago
when somebody decide to attack Greek people and their culture,or any people or any culture, he/she must have a lot of historical facts , which in this case do not exist.
Time to go back to school and search Internet for more information!.. Now that the Skopian troll appeared too, claiming history and genuinity, I must say the Greek proverb:.. ΔΥΟ ΓΑΙΔΑΡΟΙ ΜΑΛΩΝΑΝ ΣΕ ΞΕΝΟ ΑΧΥΡΩΝΑ!...=TWO DONKEYS WERE FIGHTING IN A FOREIGN PROPERTY!....BEHAVE!
nixter888 10 months ago
You have serious issues! This is the funniest and the most absurd thing I've heard in quite a while. Are all you people delusional? This can be treated you know, if you ask for professional help. You need to have your head examined, it's filled with nonsense.
I won't even attempt to refute your arguments, they are so false that it hurts just to read them.
nixter888 10 months ago
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Countries like yours in order to find history, they have either to invent or to steal...
So, we can understand you easily, dont worry...
Aristoteles was from Tirana also?...Now that thanks to you I know that we have stolen from Albanians our language, history, civilisation etc,
I offer YOU immediately and voluntarily as a token of apology!!!Please, excuse us for not having all immigrated to Gobbi desert to leave you our country as a gift of hour.
nixter888 10 months ago
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nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 GREEKS ALWAYS CALLED THEM SELVES GREEKS!..ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?.....IONIANS,EOLIANS,MACEDONIANS,DORIANS,ACHAIANS,MINOANS,TROJANS,ATHENIANS,SPARTANS,MYRMIDONS,THESSALIANS,EPEROTANS,CYCLADIANS,DANAEANS,MYCENAEANS,..PELASGIANS,ALL GREEKS,THOSE NAMES DERIVED FROM THEIR PLACE OF WHERE THEY HAD THEIR CITIES!..DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
nixter888 10 months ago
Epirus is called by Aristotle mother of the Greeks, meaning that in this land the Greek people first developed their culture as we see in the Dodons temple and other monuments.Epirots were actually of Dorian origin as we known from the alphabet we have from that time and moreover Pirro is recognized as a Greek hero.I
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 And how do you know that one of these people are not albanians?you dont know.you have no clue..as i said many times nixter albanians are very old people and have been around when these people were in there prime,,you greeks just angry that your old brothers changed religion,You see im christian and i dont give care what religion anyone is,As lond as they dont preach to me i am fine,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 THOSE NAMES DERIVED FROM THEIR PLACE OF WHERE THEY HAD THEIR CITIES!..Then what about all the citys that derrive from albanian language?Does this mean it is there people? you see you are not the onlyones who have much old citys and places that have meaning in albanian and no one else?what about the albanians who live in albania and kosova?they have most illyrian names and tribes and the meanings?you get me?why is it ok for greeks to say this and not albanians? WHY
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Because you cant handle that there were alsoa race as old as you if not older?Use your brain and stop bullshit.and get over it albanias are as old as greeks...
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 v=97NS-uZMohw watch.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero.
nixter888 10 months ago
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@nixter888 We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient Paionia, who speak Slavic – a language introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander – can claim him as their national hero.I agree with you 100% i know slavs dont belong in macedonia but i say macedonians were a people who spoke the gheg albanian dilect..
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Another northern Greek, Aristotle, went off to study for nearly 20 years in the Academy of Plato. Aristotle subsequently returned to Macedonia and became the tutor of Alexander III. They used Greek in their classroom which can still be seen near Naoussa in Macedonia.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 explian this,The world uses the alphabet now are they greek,is england greek?is usa greek?is all western countrys greek?NO they just use the alphabet to comunicate with eachother,,Just because a people used the greek alphabet doesnt mean they are greek,,it clearly says macedonians were not greek,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 what in the world are you saying!....The English speak English,..In Greece they spoke Greek!...and we talking about language and not alphabet!...Are you stupid or what!
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 The questions follow: Why was Greek the lingua franca all over Alexander’s empire if he was a “FYROMIAN”? Why was the New Testament, for example, written in Greek.......The answers are clear: Alexander the Great was Greek, not Slavic,or Albanian, and Slavs,and Albanians, and their language were nowhere near Alexander or his homeland until 1000 years later.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 alexadra spoke his mother tung and it was not greek,?he spoke 2 other languages,as you say if epirus is greek then it cant be epirus as you said also illyrian were a greek people so it cant be illyiran as they are both greek?then who was it because if epirus and illyrian were greek then there was no need to speak another language other than greek? historians also have prooved he spoke anothe language also and that greek wasnt his mother language?
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 First of all is a shame to write ALEXANDERS ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ name like this!....
nixter888 10 months ago
@ktm066 The Macedonians were from the Dorians raceThe Dorians were pure Greeks. Various attempts to derive one section of them from Illyrian origins have been unsuccessful. The fact that the Dorians were Greek naturally presupposes that the tribes of which they were composed were also Greek, and these include the Makednoi or Makedones, at a date earlier than the fourteenth century b.c....
nixter888 10 months ago
The people called by the Persians 'Greeks whose head¬dress is like a shield' are therefore identified with the Macedonians...In a fragment of Hellanikos (fifth century B.C.), Makedon, the mythical founder of the Macedonians, appears as the son of Aiolos. This genealogical relationship reflects the idea that the Macedonians were a section of the Aiolians, a sub-division of the Greek race
nixter888 10 months ago
After the battle of Issos, Alexander the Great sent a let¬ter to Darius that began as follows: 'Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us much harm though we had done them no prior injury; I have been appointed commander-in-chief of the Greeks and in¬vaded Asia in the desire to take vengeance on Persia for your aggressions..From this extract it emerges clearly that Alexander regarded Macedonia as a Greek country!
nixter888 10 months ago
The ambassador of this same king, in his address to the Aitolians in 200 B.C., ranged the Macedonians with the Greeks and not with the 'foreigners' (αλλοεθνείς) and 'barbarians' (βάρβαροι).
nixter888 10 months ago
From the time that Alexander I asserted at Olympia that he was Greek, and the tradition that the Macedonian dynasty was descended from the Temenids of Argos became generally known, it was commonly accepted by the Greeks that the Macedonian royal family was part of the Greek The hypothesis that the Macedonians were Greeks is supported by all the reliable evidence: the ancient tradition that the Dorians were descended from a section of the Macedonians.
nixter888 10 months ago
The cultural milieu of the Macedonian court was Greek.
The texts that Alexander studied as a youth were Greek.
The books he read while in Asia were Greek.
The heroes he emulated, the gods he worshipped, the temples he built were Greek.
The coins he minted in the millions were Greek.
nixter888 10 months ago
The legacy he left behind from Anatolia to India was as Greek as his settlers could make it, right down to a theater, gymnasium, and inscribed copy of the Delphic maxims in a far corner of Afghanistan.
nixter888 10 months ago
With the city-states to the south is hardly an argument against his Hellenic heritage; it only means that Macedonia remained more Homeric than Athens, Thebes, or Sparta. It is hard to be more Greek than that. Nor should we be troubled by Alexander’s ability to speak a Macedonian dialect or by his interest in the world beyond Greece itself. Alexander was a man of the world, certainly, but he was a man from Macedonian Greece. According to Arrian 2.14.4,...
nixter888 10 months ago
Alexander said this himself in a letter to the Persian king Darius:
Alexander sent a reply to Darius by way of Thersippos, who went back with the Persian envoys. Alexander’s letter states as follows: “Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece, inflicting evils upon us without provocation…”
Here Alexander’s point seems clear—Macedonia was historically a part of Greece.
nixter888 10 months ago
δῆλον δὲ πρῶτον μὲν ὁρισαμένοις τί τὸ ἀληθὲς καὶ ψεῦδος. τὸ μὲν γὰρ λέγειν τὸ ὂν μὴ εἶναι ἢ τὸ μὴ ὂν εἶναι ψεῦδος, τὸ δὲ τὸ ὂν εἶναι καὶ τὸ μὴ ὂν μὴ εἶναι ἀληθές, ὥστε καὶ ὁ λέγων εἶναι ἢ μὴ ἀληθεύσει ἢ ψεύσεται (Αριστοτέλης, Μεταφυσικά)=............
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888..... This will be plain if we first define truth and falsehood. To say that what is is not, or that what is not is, is false; but to say that what is is, and what is not is not, is true; and therefore also he who says that a thing is or is not will say either what is true or what is false. (Aristotle, Metaphysics)
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 The pseudo-Makedonist regime in Skopje ,and Albania,have elevated fraud to the level of science, and it has correspondingly reduced science to being the contemptible paramour of their repulsive politics of hatred, ultra-nationalist bigotry and ethnic intolerance.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 not true since there was no migration of the albanians to balkans explains also that there were people who were living in balkans that were not greek,i tell you something the gheg albanian language is very very old it is the oldest language out of all albanian people.the tosks spoke once the same language as ghegs but were very influeced by greeks because they both lived with eachother but the northern albanians lived sicluded from you greeks the result of that is the high dna of them
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 of ev-13,my language out dates 1000yrs later of alexandra,I also want to ask you question did the greek alphabet get created around 4000bc?because im unsure because in kosova there was a stone found and on it it reads TY ET, and it is dated 6000bc weird very,,because this TY ET is albanian language and is still in use today and we dont have to change nothing..you see more mistakes of modern greek.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Not to mention in kosova as we speak a great big illyrian dardanian castle is getting unearthed now..upliana infact,,cant wait.truth is coming out slowly...
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Skopje,and Albania they have to understand that they cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated.
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 137. Now of this Alexander the seventh ancestor was that Perdiccas who first became despot of the Macedonians, and that in the manner which here follows:–From Argos there fled to the Illyrians three brothers of the descendents of Temenos, Gauanes, Aëropos, and Perdiccas; and passing over from the Illyrians into the upper parts of Macedonia they came to the city of Lebaia.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 remember this>?“The Macedonians are going to judge your case,” he said. “Please state whether you will use your native language before them. Philotas: “Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you.
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 Then the king said: “Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases – only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language”. The key phrase [Curtius(2) Hist. Alex. Magni Maced., IV, I11.4.: ] ” . . . Macedonatus, homines linguae suae per interpretem audire,” (“. . . born a Macedonian, to hear the men of his language through an interpreter,”
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 WHEN THE GREEKS GO TO CYPRUS IN THE VILLAGES ,THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CYPRIOTS SAYING WHEN THEY TALK!..BUT THEIR LANGUAGE IS GREEK DIALECT!...BEHAVE NOW!!!!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 Despite the possessing of Greek culture and language, Macedonians never lost their native tongue and were proud of it. Many historical sources are written in Greek, and it was a common practice among Greek historians to hellenize foreign names. For example, the name of the powerful first king of the Persian empire, Kuruš, ought to be transcribed as Kourous or Kouroux in Greek, but became Kyros, because this looks like a Greek word (“Mr. Almighty”
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 The prehistoric settlement of Dispilio is situated at the site Nisi, on the southern shore of Kastoria lake. It was located in 1932, when the lake level fell, and at the point where Nisi was separated from the lakeshore, remains of wooden posts became visible,..on a wooden tablet that was found at the archeologic site of Dispilio at Kastoria and dated by the method of C14 at the 'Dimokritos' research center to 5260 BC. IT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK LETTERS!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 what does nisi mean in greek?
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Νησι ,Νησος=Island!.....
nixter888 10 months ago
Respond to this video...nisi means start in albanian?you see
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 So, the fact that Greek authors use Greek names for Macedonian people and deities does not prove very much about the Macedonian language. There is evidence that Greeks were unable to understand people who were makedonizein, “speaking Macedonian”. The Macedonian king Alexander the Great was not understood by the Greeks when he shouted an order in his native tongue and the Greek commander Eumenes needed a translator to address the soldiers of the Macedonian phalanx
ktm066 10 months ago
@nixter888 LEARN THE FAULTS IN YOUR SO CALLED HISTORY GREEK..
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 IT IS IN DEED GREEK HISTORY,AND BELONGS TO ME AND TO MY NATION,...FAULTS EXISTS IN YOUR VICIOUS MIND!....
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 IT IS IN DEED GREEK HISTORY?IS IT?how do you know that for sure.faults are in the people who wrote greeks history.look you greeks are old and i respect that but you you also have to respect that albanians are fucking very very old,both greek and albanians were living with eachother for thousnads of yrs befor any slavnic was in balkans.And albanians are not going anywhere.
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 Good try to get some glory,from the Greeks!...You did nothing ...my friend!,...Greeks did everything!,,,I don't know any ancient Albanian to have discover anything ever!...Nobody wrote false Greek history,...in the sacred grounds of my country, and in my coded very ancient language lies the truth!
nixter888 10 months ago
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The world learns Pythagorean THEOREM Archimedian POLYHEDRONS,EUCLID GEOMETRY,DEMOCRITUS ETHICS!ARISTOTLE METAPHYSICS,and many more!!!you learn nothing Indian in school!!!you learn Greek mathematics!!even the chines,the Egyptians the Americans,the Austalians!THE ENTIRE WORLD!..They also learn HERACLITEAN logos,Hermetic knowledge,Homeric hymns and poems,SOLONEAN LAW,CLEISTHENEAN DEMOCRACY,ARISTARCHEAN ASTRONOMY ,and the story goes on and on!
nixter888 10 months ago
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.in the Universities of the world they teach Pythagorean theorem ,Euclidean geometry, Orphic Mysteries,Aristotelian,logic and philosophy ,SOCRATEAN PHILOSOPHY ,ARCHIMEDEAN PRINCIPALS!..NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE!
nixter888 10 months ago
@nixter888 NOTHING ALBANIAN THERE!we were not always called albanians.just like you were not always called greece..and just like macedonia EMATHIA,just like kosova just like montenegro,just like turkey,and many other old countyrs,,you prove nothing,,you think because our name of our country is called albania doesnt mean we were not part of the old people of balkans...you silly..
ktm066 10 months ago
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" Totum Graecorum est " (=Άπαντα είναι των Ελλήνων) Cicero, pro placco =EVERYTHING BELONGS TO THE GREEKS!
nixter888 10 months ago
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diddnt ataturk love gays and boys he was one of them I read.
tasios777 1 year ago
1L1R1A hahahah you are not ylirian but an another albanian immigrant who hates greeks stupid barbarian
ElassonaG13 1 year ago
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BANKRUPT!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1L1R1A 1 year ago
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1L1R1A 1 year ago
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
1L1R1A 1 year ago
@1L1R1A Greece is Greece man,
we do and always did have a civilization. the problem is that you probably don't, so you think everybody's like that. Greece has artists and philosophs that you can't even imagine...
poor minds say poor words... nothing more to say!
TitanaMaster 1 year ago
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greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
1L1R1A 1 year ago
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greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
1L1R1A 1 year ago
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Finde on f@cebook "Properties_Greece"...for many awesome picture of Greece!!!
GREEKCRIMINAL 1 year ago
great video about santorini greek history is breathtaking..that music sunds quite asian though.. first greek music had to do with harps and flutes
kirmix21 1 year ago
Haa the 22 people who disliked this video don't know what natural beauty is.
hollisterox16 1 year ago
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Free energy has been here for a while ,But Millions are spend in supressing that information,Find this technology at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Start the revolution!
perplexfraction 1 year ago
Beautiful stuff. But it still doesn't change the fact Greeks stole virtually everything from Ancient Kemet (Egypt).
TheBlinked1 1 year ago
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nixter888 1 year ago
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@TheBlinked1 are the fable sunken cities of the Aegean, for thousands of years , stolen from Egypt?...You mast not embarrass your self anymore!...BEHAVE!
nixter888 1 year ago
Greek secrets:watch?v=PpLFN3gzeTs
puncyy 1 year ago
watch google video:
Thomas McEvilley on 'The Shape of Ancient Thought'
check out youtube vid:
Burke Lecture: Buddhism in a Global Age of Technology
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
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@macfreefilms Do not stand comments by Skopians "wannabe Macedonians" as "TRUMACEDON",remove them.They are pathetic brainwashed,history stealers!
LiBeRtO21 1 year ago
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CALLAS80 1 year ago
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Hahahahahaha 1L1R1A wrote swomthig fantastic and I quote:
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture
I love this guy
hahahahhahhaha
TRUMACEDON 1 year ago
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Hahahahahahahaha 1l1r1a wrote somthing fantastic:
greece is a country only for the hardest badest hard core ass jabbers of the world.
I went there and I could swear I was in Africa or Arabia. Faggots everywhere, saturated with gays from all over the world. But its not unusual.....ass jabbing is sacred to them and passed down from father to son as part of their intrinsic ethiopian culture.
I love this guy he is my kind of man.
TRUMACEDON 1 year ago
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TRUMACEDON 1 year ago