no offence but you're a troll and an idiot. Actual christian metal bands like Living Sacrifice or The Crimson Armada (there's plenty more) are to appeal to people who like metal but also worship. Personally I don't like worship or gospel but when its metal, i think its better. Its all about the message and how people want to take it. Go fuck yourself troll.
Paul Washer's famous "Shocking Youth Message" here on YT was done after a Christian metal mosh situation. He was never invited back to speak at that conference. Good video brother.
if a man can praise God with a acoustic guitar, why cant another guy grab a electric guitar and yell and scream God's name and worship him, metal for jesus for ever. and some of the bands your useing are porbably not christian at all, they just use the label because they cant get any other
the "oh, sleeper" cover has been explained. the pentogram stands for satans head, the top to angles that arent there stand for his horns, and in one of the songs its sung from God's point of view. part of it goes "they will sing to a world reborn, they will sing as i cut off your horns, ill cut off your horns"
the song is a retaliation from God to satan, because the first song on the album is satan challenging God and this one is the last song on the album. it has a christian meaning.
Believe it or not, Christian metal can connect people to God just as much as acoustic worship can. You should see a Sleeping Giant or For Today concert, people are lifting their hands worshiping God. Are you saying that the countless people, teens especially who have been saved through Christian metal are decieved servants of satan? It's not hard to see that metal can be used as a ministry to teens, and that many concerts are filled with God's presence and people who are worshiping God.
I have a test. Look up the lyrics for "In Christ" by Living Sacrifice. It might change the way you look at Christian metal. Look up the song too so you can see it is indeed a metal song. Do you think those lyrics are evil? They upfront worship our Creator. How can a song that worships God be evil? Because "In Christ" does nothing short of worship God.
Continuation: EVERY SINGLE Christian metalhead you see in that mosh pit is filled with more hope and determination for God than most people that attend church and participate in worship. Don't tell me they're filled with hate. Lots of kids that listen to just Christian rock and not metal are dead in their faith. That's something I can't say metal ever made me feel. And Static-X was a horrible example. That's veering towards the nu-metal/hate metal Slipknot type genre.
There is nothing in the bible that says piercings are evil. The Jewish tradition was actually to pierce the noses of the servants. Secondly, if you would have actually done a little research, you would know that the Oh, Sleeper "Repentagram" does not indicate Satanism at all. The horns are ripped off, leaving an arrow pointing UPWARDS. Thirdly, I have been in dozens of mosh pits, and all I've felt is brotherly love from everyone participating. And the only hate I've ever felt is towards sin.
Your 100% right! This music / image is decadent and worldly.
Followers of Yahshua / Jesus are to be set-apart, "Holy", set-apart from the rest of the world. These bands and kids are self justifying it because there not willing to let go of it, it means more to them than God's will, there deceiving there self. But remember, sanctification is a process, pray that these bands and kids will receive conviction and that there eyes will be open to the sin it is. You were right to leave that church.
Your 100% right! This music / image is decadent and worldly.
Followers of Yahshua / Jesus are to be set-apart, "Holy", set-apart from the rest of the world. These bands and kids are self justifying it because there not willing to let go of it, it means more to them than God's will, there deceiving there self. But remember, sanctification is a process, pray that these bands and kids will receive conviction and that there eyes will be open to the sin it is. You were right to leave that church.
To further my last point, in a mosh pit everybody is mutually agreeing that yes they might get hurt. It's like playing paintball. I'm not playing paintball to hurt the people on the other team, even though that does happen, I'm playing it because it's a game, and it's fun. If somebody gets shot in the eye, I don't laugh and keep playing, I stop the game and help that person. I find you to be very close minded sir.
And let me comment on the Oh, Sleeper logo, if you would do your research and read interviews you would discover that it's actually a pentagram (which represents a goat's head) with the horns cut off (which references the final song on the album, about God's final defeat over Satan). As far as moshing goes, realize that the whole point of moshing isn't to hurt each other, but to express yourself. If somebody gets knocked down, they're picked up immediately.
Your continued arguments on "appearance of evil" is misled. What makes heavy metal in itself dark and evil? And don't tell me because it was meant as "satan worship", that's committing the genetic fallacy. Saying distorted guitars are "evil" is just a reitteration of what people thought about the church organ at first, or should I say "the devil's bagpipes"
@firecharger I'm just repeating what you said, you said you know metal because you went to a static x (which I wouldn't really call metal) concert, you didn't mention anything else and I'm not "hearing" what your saying now, I'm reading it genius
@firecharger You say your argument is based on scripture but the scripture doesn't apply. 1. metal isn't darkness. Are metal show's performed in dark venues? yes but that doesn't make it satanic, some churches hold services in the dark, ( a christmas eve service for example) besides that verse is refering to spiritual darkness not physical. God is the God of night as well as day. There is nothing inherently dark or evil about metal, its just a stereotype
What you are doing is trying to put christianity in a box, saying this or that can be christian, God is bigger than your little box. Stop condemning other's heart felt worship, its insulting. How would you like it if i walked in your church and told you to stop worshiping in your way because you are really serving satan?
Your main argument is the band looks and sounds like other secular bands of the genre. Christian rap sounds like secular rap the difference is the lyrics. Christian pop sounds like secular pop, the difference is the lyrics. christian country sounds like secular country THE DIFFERENCE IS THE LYRICS. I don't see you condemning these genres. As to the look, the same can be apllied christian rappers look like secular rappers etc.
This video is ignorance, plain and simple. You are caught up in the lie that both christian and non- christians alike believe. That metal is by default evil. this is simply a stereotype and nothing more. Music is neutral. Notes, rythym, instuments, beat, all are neither good or evil. Lyrics on the other hand can be good or evil, they are what determine the bands message, whether you as an individual can understand them is a mute point.
What I'm hearing is your opinion while you haven't addressed what the Bible says regarding the fruit of the Spirit, God not being the author of confusion, walking in the light and not darkness, and everything else that's been addressed.
I've heard all the arguments for this music and I still don't see it lining up with God's word or character.
@firecharger and I'm telling you, you take those verses out of context and try to apply it to your argument. Metal doesn't equate darkness, metal doesn't equate confusion.
People use this music to save people, how is that "bad fruit" how can satan drive out satan. You don't understand the music (I mean the genre not the words), plain and simple. You are ignorant and i don't mean that as an insult, many people don't get what metal really is
@firecharger 2. Metal isn't confusion. Metal isn't as structured or predictable as other genres but it still has structure and order otherwise it wouldn't be music. Order is what seperates music from noise.3. Chritian metal has SAVED people. If that isn't good fruit, than I don't know what is. It doesn't promote violence or anger. Face it, you don't have a biblical argument
Hmmm... "Christian Metal"?? Is that like... let's say.. "Christian" cigarettes? or "Christian" booze? or "Christian " porn?? Yeah, I'd say its on the same level!! What fellowship hath light with darkness. One cannot drink from the cup of Christ and the cup of demons. Impossible!! The fruit of the Spirit is...... love, joy, peace ect.. this music manifests satanic fruit; anger, violent...
You're right, but read the comments and see how vehemently people defend this music. I've throw every bible verse I can think of at this topic, but they still justify it.
This music was born out of death metal. What more do we need to know?
@firecharger And Paul was born of a persecutor of Christians. So he couldn't be a real Christian right? He was just fake and confusing people, am I right?
most so called christian metal bands dont really but lot of christian meaning in to there songs but there a a few of the bands that are true christians and write and play there music for God like with oh sleeper cd cover the last song on the cd talks about cuting off the devils horns and thats where they get the atr work for that cd
Also, he doesn't understand the 'Cookie Monster' language. Dude! It's not your language - so stop stressing about it. Because YOU don't understand it doesn't mean I don't. Listen to and with your heart - that's where He is.
Do what you have to do sir, but you are seriously barking up the wrong tree.Bow wow!
@MessengerOnline There are multiple things going on here. One of the biggest is that Mr. firecharger is 'associating' what he sees with his eyes to what he has experienced in the PAST. He 'associates' tattoos and body jewelry with evil.
I'm not going to get involved in this any further, I don't believe we should fight about our believes. I have prayed about this topic also. Everyone's walk is different and yours is not meant to partake in this type of music but I believe it can be a ministry tool, I respect you for voicing yourself, but I also disagree but we are brothers in Christ and should not fight. God Bless you, and stay strong with God.
First off Mychildren Mybride sucks and so does Sleeping Giant.
I've seen Oh, Sleeper multiple times(plus their from my hometown) and I think every band with Christian members should take their outlook, if they want to hear their views on the "Christian Lifestyle" then they can come up to them at a show and talk to them about it.
Or bands just shouldn't label themselves as a "Christian Band".
Have Christian members and stand for what they believe in, but not call themselves, a Christian Band.
I thought Jesus was hanging out with prostitutes and drunks and the filth of the Earth? I thought Jesus loved them despite all of that? I thought Jesus looked at the heart of a man and not the clothes he wore.
I think ti comes down to wear the band's heart is. If it is indeed for God, you have no right to say it's a bad thing. It's pretty plain and simple.
The "flask" in the video is a cologne bottle, it's kind of the whole point of the video. Did you watch it past the first 30 seconds? Go look at a band called For Today and tell me they are not christian. Watch the interviews, read the lyrics, you can't just look at the outward appearance of one band and use it to judge the whole genra, its simply not a valid argument
(Continued).....I have been able to bring 7 people to God and lead them in the prayer of Salvation, and every single one of them have told me its because they had a spark that ignited a flam for God through the music. I love you as a brother in Christ but as a brother I must tell you when I disagree with you. God Bless
I looked up "I am terrified" and "Mortification" I can't understand what they're saying for the most part.
I prayed about this because I hear accounts like yours that say "people are getting saved" but the music seems very ungodly in it's presentation. So, I've been conflicted. I asked God "Am I coming against a ministry of yours?"
I was suddenly awakened in the middle of the night with the words ringing in my head "God is not the author of confusion" Read the rest of that verse.
@firecharger I don't see how that verse validates your argument, you are the one who is confused, we aren't. We know god uses this music to bring glory to his name.
@firecharger So you can't understand what the band is saying, but that doesn't mean everyone can't. If you've been around the music you can understand the words. I can understand bands like Becoming the Archetype and For Today better than I can understand a lot of bands that sing. As long as the vocalist articulates you can understand screaming as easily as singing.
@firecharger what do you mean by that? Are you saying God can't understand the words? He doesn't need to, he looks straight to the heart. Are you implying that "God's opinion" is that no one can understand the lyrics? how can you know that?
(continued).... And that is where everyone should take a step back and take a hard look at it to see if it is Godly. But you treat ALL Christian Metal bands like they are from Hell. I'm not saying I'm perfect and you shouldn't say you are perfect either and I'm not saying your saying that. But you should really get ALL the facts not just the ones you twist to fit your opinion........(Continued in next)
(Continued)....There is a band in Australia called Mortification that sings SCRIPTURE in the bars and pubs and underground metal clubs. You tare apart these bands but don't even try to find out what exactly the images in the videos and album covers are meant to represent. try to get in contact with some of the bands. I can agree with you on the fact that there are some bands that are some what "posers" that say they are Christians but don't show it.........(Continued in next)
I would really like you to look at a band named "I Am Terrified" look at there lyrics. and let me know what you think. I myself was a unbeliever 5 years ago, I listened to bands like Disturbed, Metallica, Slipknot...and so many non Christian bands, I was actually ministered through and brought to Christ through the messages in the LYRICS of Christian metal bands. such as Stryper, and my personal favorite is I Am Terrified........(see next comment for continued)
Wow man, do you even know how many kids here about Jesus at these shows? From personal experience these guys have touched some of my own friends, some of these guys are the most realest christian people. There not stuck in a religion, they have Jesus and represent him to people who need him. You are being very very judgmental. did you know there are also acoustic bands that aren't christian. Should we judge them too? What kind of music is acceptable?
Part 2 Come on man, get with it. David was misunderstood (little guy), Jesus was misunderstood (winebibber). Just be careful - be led - not just by your own understanding, or a teacher that makes you feel good - but by the Spirit of God - God on Earth, the Holy Ghost.
Nah, sorry. This is full of loaded rhetorical questions. Dude, if is isn't from God that's one thing. But judge righteous judgement. Be careful that you're not creating your own religion based on your feelings instead of being taught by the Holy Spirit. There are also a lot of people in the world that would prefer there be all white churches and no one to throw up on them when they are praying for someone. Or there are people who wouldn'y sit next to a homeless guy in a church.
PT1 as far as Christain metal not being an act of God goes, you're wrong. I personally have been brought to Christ through the ministry of bands your telling me aren't Christain. God also says to Go and make deciples of all nations(Matt 28:18) also READ THE FREAKING LYRICS Oh, sleeper's last song on the album you showed ends with the line I WILL CUT OFF YOUR HORNS, reffering to the devil, the pentagram is broken to symbolise Gods victory over the devil. Sleeping Giant's frontman Thom Green
PT2 has an incredibly story of how he came to God, and read the lyrics to Oh Praise Him a song they play every show The entire song is bringing about praising God for the countless blessing He's givin us. Christain mosh pits are way calmer than anything youd see at Static X My life was changed in a Sleeping Giant mosh pit For Today another Christain metal band signed to Facedown records, a Christain metal label, I ve spoke to the members of that band and they helped me truly give my life to God
PT3 In your other video you say we need to judge people by their fruit, I ve been to these shows I saw in person the Christain deathcore band Impending Doom preform the song they wrote that is based off and named after Romans 8 as far as their sound goes, i could write a gregorian chant about the devil but it wont mean gregorian chants could lead people to the devil in a sinfull world there will always be evil things that look like and sould like Godly things, you cant denounce their ministry
moshing is fun u should go and have fun and the flask is for money and wuts wrong wit dinkin if u read your bible u would find that jesus drank and dont talk crap about mychildmybride u never talked to them if u dont like the music than fine just dont talk crap about it.
That MCMB song was about addictions and how you can break them. Listen to the breakdown.
Pantera isn't Christian, but just because it's not a Christian band doesn't mean you can't listen to it. I listen to MOSTLY Christian metal. Not even just MCMB kinda stuff. like old stuff, ie living sacrifice, vengeance rising, deuteronium, tourniquet.
But you can't tell me you've NEVER listened to Secular Country music. You look like a country boy, how is country different than metal?
if a child drew their dad a picture and put their whole heart in wouldnt he give it the highest value of the world no matter how it looked. ive known metal band members that just with their testimony show a closer relationship to God than the farisees sitting in todays pews waiting for their next prey to prowl on. Plus back in his time Jesus was probably the biggest rebel of all just for healling people on the sabbath.
Thats only a few bands and you are so wrong. Screaming doesn't mean your not worshipping. Also remember there are these kids who were from the secular world now saved and thats what they listen to but if there aren't christain metal they may just go back to listening to secular music. I am sorry but i tottaly disagree have you read the lyrics.
i once knew a guy whose idol was Hitler. He was a very troubled individual. He told me one day that a Christian metal band had recruited him to be their singer. He was a fairly "good" (if you can term that sound as being good) death metal singer. This singing is like the singing in this video in the song near the beginning. So this band that supposedly praises God is recruiting a Hitler lover for the sound he brings? Sounds like priorities are a little off there.
Whats your point? You totally lost me on this one. This guy didn't like hitler because he was a lutheran. The fact that he was is totally besides the point. He liked hitler for his racist ideologies and his justification for violence and world control. The fact that Hitler was a lutheran is totally inconsequential. Hitler didn't follow his lutheran beliefs, he betrayed them and went against the spirit of Christ.
@Itsfaith33 Actually, Martin Luther condemned modern jews as a parasitic blight upon humanity. So if you wanna get TECHNICAL, Hitler was more of a good lutheran fighting for the spirit of Christ than anyone will ever be. I don't support Genocide, or Hitler; HOWEVER, I do support historical accuracy and fact-checking before speaking.
Wow I did not know that. Thats kind of crazy, considering Christ was a Jew. I don't get how people get off condemning all Jews as being bad people its just not true. I love the Jews....politically speaking they've done some bad thing recently but the situation in Palestine is complicated to put it lightly. As for fact checking I'm pretty sure that even most Lutherans would be unaware of the little known fact you speak of. Its just not something someone thinks to check!
Everyone has some historical blindness except for perhaps the best historians in the world. Please I don't like the attitude of your comment. Its not done with the best of intentions. Don't patronize others over their own unawareness of ignorance. Not everyone knows everything and we all make mistakes.
But wasn't Hitler also a big fan of Nietzsche? Nietzsche hated the Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity. He's nicknamed "the antichrist philosopher" for a reason.
if you keep up with your bible you will learn that God excepts everyone...
maybe you should follow him...I'm glad this kid express himself and reach out to people who might look up to him...and he might save one lost soul..shouldn't you be proud about that?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10: 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
God loves everyone, but that doesn't mean everyone gets a free pass into heaven. The bible is very clear that you must be a born again believer in Jesus Christ to enter heaven. You MUST turn away from sin. Jesus said "He who loves me, keeps my commandments"
You can tell that alcoholic wreck that God loves him, but you must also tell him that no drunkard will enter the kingdom of heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
@firecharger The act of truly Loving God should inspire a change If you have completly given your life to Christ then you probably won't want to keep sinning Jesus' death and resurection shows that God loves everyone, everyone is given a get out of hell free card Being a born again beliver simpily means that you love God and accept Jesus as you Lord and Savior Read Romans 3:23-24 and John 3:16-17 Ephesians 2:8-9 says You are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ anyone can get into heaven
If it's created to worship God, it's Christian music, no matter what. Also, the 10 commandments were made for us to see that we needed God in our lives or else we wouldn't be anything. New "laws" in the New Testament.
and by the way, The FLASK? it wasnt a flask, it was a perfume bottle!! watch the next 10 seconds of the video! and whats wrong with sleeping giant? i didnt see what you had against them. they are great
This really stupid. who said tattoos and piercings are bad. all those bands are christian bands. does a christian band have to only worship God? its a band of christians, not a christian band really. they can sing about whatever. moshing is fun. why should moshing be bad. this guy knows nothing about metal.
Liviticus! is old testament. in the old testament it also says you arent allowed to shave your face and eat meat. laws were changed. and when they say marking on you back in the day they used ashes from their ansestors and stuff. not really ink tats.
well lyrically yes, they are christian... the talk about God in their lyrics and they actually call people to christ in their concerts. also the bible say's not to judge, and your judging them by their apperance. my children my bride dosent represent all of heavy metal. they only represent themselfs... for example august burns red have no tatooes. further more that pentagram was against satan..cutting off the horns not promoting creation over christ.
thanks firecharger for this video. I have some friends who listen to this type of music and who claim that this music is christian. ill make sure to pass this video along to them, but hey do you know any artists or groups that play christian rap,hiphop,and r&b i dont know where to find any
I am sorry I build a wall on your videos that I feel need responded too.. Be careful not to think that your salvation lies within the Law. If you are going to play Law you got to do the Sabbath on Saturday and puke Easter (Ishtar) and Christmas (Talmuz/Baal) up like the darkness masquerading light that it is. Man cannot live by the Law. If any men could there would have been no need for the sacrifice of Christ as our propitiation bought and purchased by his own blood.
Read the lyrics of the group called Lamb of God... if the people who listen to this band actually believe this is inspired in anyway by Christ are disturbed. No spirit filled individual could listen to that imo and not feel like they were being spiritually attacked. I turn on the video by Nate called the Fire every so often to see how well I hold up against that onslaught. The first time I heard that I got a burning feeling in my stomach that was uncomfortable, it opened my eyes.
I agree with you but at some point you have to let those be. Jesus said if your not against me your with me. In the end it will be up to God to chastise his children. If they are truly his children they will be lead in the right direction. You see I see this stuff all the time. I am defending Profit Owuor from other's who call themselves Christians who mock Owuor and say he is of the devil because he slays people in the spirit. I being from an apostolic background, don't agree with them
ok tats are not bad yea i dont agree with some of the things on there..everyone sins there is only one sin bigger then all and that is to deny Gods name...im sure u have ate more then ur body can take and thats a sin right there so all sins amout out to the same..yes others see sins diff bc it isnt there life style..i have tats and i will continue to get them but it doesnt mean i will go to hell
Ok. i have comment on one of your videos before (not sure if it was this one or part 2) and I have heard a very good point. Jesus said to be fishers of men. so to do this we need to ask ourselves, "what do you do when fishing?" You need bait for the fish to bite. Just like using worms to attract the fish, Music can be a bait to lure people into hearing the gospel.
AHAHAHAHAHA!!! CHRISTIANS ARE SO STUPID!! lmao ahaha godly worship lifestyle?! lmao, smoke a bowl, drink a beer & SIN to your hearts content, its so fun :D appreciate all the things satan brings into life, hes another creation from god therefor anything he creates is a by product of gods creation, SIN! SIN! SIN! HAIL SATAN LMAO
Yes sir, Oh Sleeper is full of god fearing young men who share their faith through music. Have you done more than just looked at their logo? Have you listened to a song and read the lyrics? Have you watched an interview with the band to hear their take on their faith and music? Maybe you should do that before you judge them. I don't think Mychildren Mybride is a prime example of a christian metal band. Look at, For Today, August Burns Red or In the Midst of Lions
That BROKEN pentegram is a mockery of satan. It represents god's victory over satan. The pentegram represents the head of a goat, and that pentegram represents a goat with its horns cut off. Do some research
1st vid---Does drumming on buckets advance the kingdom of God? Did he tell him the gospel? Did he tell the guy his testimony about Jesus?
2nd vid-- Where's Jesus in those lyrics? You can call the pizza delivery guy Lord if you want. Doesn't mean they're singing to Jesus even if you think they are.
Did you know that even demons have acknowledge Jesus as the Christ and the Son of God. Does that make them christians?
And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
@firecharger i guess this is you showing the acknowledgements, which as i said was a bit of a contradiction. i'm sorry if i've rubbed you the wrong way but i feel you being to general and there are little gems as it were if you can find them its may just be like finding a needle in a hay stack. "Open your closed mind, close your open mouth. your pushing more than your pulling."
@firecharger 1st no it doesn't and no he didn't i showed that video as you stated that you do not have to become a clone of the secular bands with tattoos ect. this proves that not all christian metal bands do.
2nd no he wasn't maybe as i was kinda claiming it not a worship song but as you and anyone else knows if you know a band so catch up with the blogs/ interviews ect. therefore i know its about himself and jesus. and i think your being picky if thts all you could say you know there....
@firecharger 2nd..... great lyrics, i don't really think you could deny that. you also just contradicted yourself by saying that acknowledging Jesus Christ doesn't make you christian so they didn't need too.
by the way i'm not trying to say your wrong i don't think you are completely i just think that the whole christian metal genre is evil. there are bands that don't do any of the long list you explained. i still believe your being narrow minded and basing upon opinion.
I haven't contradicted myself. Anyone can acknowledge Jesus Christ. In fact, churches are full of people that do, but many still live sinful lives. Repentance is required.
Regardless of your opinion of this music or mine, would you still follow Jesus Christ for who He is and what He's done if this music disappeared tomorrow?
@firecharger ok maybe i misunderstood where you were coming from when you said 'where was jesus in those lyrics?' but it still feels a bit contradicting as your saying they should have acknowledged Jesus in the lyrics but then you say doing this doesn't make you christian or that people do and lead sinful lives therefore the lyrics didn't necessarily need this.
Yes i would, i don't follow jesus because of the music i listen too. i don't think many do its just a small support/ comfort if you like. which is why i feel your exaggerating this issue. maybe one day one of us will change our opinions. God Bless.
Please look at the first link, the second if you really hate screaming just mute and read the lyrics although i dont class most metal songs as worship, this i do or as close as you'll get as a whole song. and the last is really brutal, but would it really portray a different meaning if it was a lovely acoustic song again. literally verses arranged into a song.
i agree with some of what you've said, but i feel you've been very narrow minded; maybe from an outsiders view the christian metal scene doesn't look great but if you love it and are immersed by it you know where the heart is at and who the most respectable bands are, and not just in terms of music. speaking of the music at which point does a drum become evil is it the rhythm being played? same with a guitar, is it a certain note? and vocalist not all look angry. check the links in my next post.
hold on there !! "Worldliness"?? knowin about the big ole world and its many cultures and beliefs just make ones connection to Jesus even stronger! and beer and metal dont affect yer beliefs because ya can always weed out the more obnoxious pointless bands, and focus on the good ones! and barley is grown in earth! and God made earth! therefore, God has provided the barley! therefore, drinkin beer is a holy act of submission to Gods plan! its our sacred duty! :D
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
I am a guitarist for a Christian Metal Band, Maranatha Complex. I live by the Lord and will die for Him, forsaking all others. I am listening to your commentary, but I am confused. There are obviously fake "Christians" in the world, and then there are those who are at a different levels of sanctification. But what about what the Apostle Paul said in I Corinthians 9:19-23 about becoming all things to all men so that he might save some and be a fellow partaker of the Gospel with them. God bless.
Remember... JESUS hung out with sinners and people who were different looking for their time. Don't you think Jesus would hang out with guys with tatts if he were to walk the earth today. The key here is the MESSAGE!! What are they saying? Are there FRUITS? Not how one looks. God be with you.
Clearly you didn't watch the video and just jumped to conclusions.....
@ 3:37 that isn't a "flask for their Christian Starbucks".... It's a bottle of Cologne containing the acronyms MCMB (My Children My Bride)
As far as the Pantera shirt.... I cant make a Judgment if this is right or wrong for THEM...as for ME as a Christian, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing such filth.
You mention that you have to look a certain way... I almost think that is the most judgmental statement of the year.
Thank you for stating your reasons for hating christian music. We will try and take into account not to use any christian themes so as not to hurt your feelings. Have a wonderful day.
win the lost at any cost. jesus died for our sins. 39 lashes, 3 nails. if your not willing to accept theses kids that are in the secular scene how can you show gods love to them?
dude i really understand where your comeing form and all.. and alot of bands that may say they are christian may not be. but to be honest you, you gotta do some more research. your geting into what everyones listing to.. look up the band close your eyes. wile screaming- "oh god i'll say i love you but it wouldnt be enough". look more into this music bro. this may confict your heart but you cant judge these kids. if you dont like it dont listen to it! but your not god he knows our hearts.
who are we to juge thats up to god not me or anybody else i know of a church that kicks it members and they are the ones that really need god check my video the one church thats sucks and let me know what you think
I was thinking the same thing. I am almost certain that the reason this is happening is because church attendance is falling and they need ways to attract young people. They are being attracted for the wrong reasons, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
I personally don't see anything godly OR ungodly about it. Its just people doing their thing. "People" not God, doing their thing. As if it could be anything else...
I might agree that that some of the things you have said, the look and appearance of the groups have an affect and the way they present their bands are not acceptable. But you using 3 examples of bands that don't have a good grasp of Christianity. How can you use this to represent All Christian Music. Look at bands like Flyleaf and POD. They are also considered Metal bands. Are they against God. You are generalizing something and pointing the finger at everyone affiliated with Metal.
I am always glad to see someone stand up for his beliefs as you have. What people need to understand is that music is very powerful and because it is, it is a very strong tool for the enemy.
You have my respect for speaking up on a topic that you know you will be ridiculed for yet your loyalty to God is more important.
what bands are you talking about that their lyrics aren't christiann? As I Lay Dying has the deepest lyrics i've ever heard and there's no doubt whatsoever that they're christian. same with Disciple, Skillet, August Burns Red (the most clean cut heavy metal band i've every seen), The Devil Wears Prada, Pillar, Red, Spoken, Underoath.
All have undeniable lyrics. almost all of them (whose concerts i've been to) make it very clear what their intentions are. Skillet espeshly has led countless ToHim
okay, this is rediculous, tattoos and piercings are a form of self expression and it doesnt mean ur unholy God will not judge you cause of it. in the my children my bride video that wasnt a flask thts a cologne bottle , its a part of the concept of the video, watch a little more. and moshing is like a form of dance, a little violent, but people rarely get hurt and if they do they're more than likley in the pit and if someone falls they're helped up. ur rediculous God wont judge cause of music
I stop watching the video after you showed a clip of that music. I only saw it for 4 seconds and stop it. My head feel funny from this music. I'm happy I don't listen to this trash.
You're like people in the 50's who thought Rock'N'Roll was evil. In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock. That's what Christian metal is. And if one person gets saved because of it, that's not worth it to you?!! Imagine yourself telling Jesus: "Yeah, I know that guy came to know you because of it, I still think it's wrong." Just a thought.
I use to listen to secular metal then I found Christian metal and it woke me up to the faith. God created music, music isn't evil, words are. If the words praise God, why would you say it's evil? Christian metal just expresses another side of Christianity. It ain't all roses! Can't tell people how horrible eternity is going to be if they don't repent? Gotta be so PC?
I'm sorry to say that you sound self-righteous. You're going on and on, judging people you don't know. If you'd ever been to a christian metal concert you'd know that a lot of the kids there are not Christians, they just enjoy the music. Christian metal IS worship! Your video makes me so sad and really hurts.
this is what you call wolves in sheeps clothing, but even the clothing looks like wolves. these are deceivers who sing this music, feel what it brings up in you, certainly not peace, it is dark and heavy and brings a spirit of discontentment and forboding. we are to come out of the world, not wrap up something worldy and try to package it with a Christian bow. Some how I dont see Jesus throwing back a brew and slamming around with them and screaming Jesus loves me this I know. Just not good!
I thought Jesus died for all our sins?? I must have recieved a diffenert version of the bible!! One where God forgives and loves you no matter who you are or what you look like... its a great version, you should read it!! My minister has a tattoo, I should tell her that she is going to hell.. she might wanna be filled in on that fact! This whole vid goes against exactly what Christianity stands for, congrats for FAILING at life and Christianity! ! Plp like you need to be smacked "God Forgive Me"
I just told you that tattoos don't send people to hell. However, continuing in sin cannot be overlooked by God.
When you are born again, the Spirit of God guides you towards repentance and sanctification from the world. Christians shouldn't continue in things (such as tats) that God has spoken against.
Be not conformed to the world, but transformed by the renewing of your mind (Romans 12:2)
Jesus wants a bride that is spotless and blameless before God. (Ephesians 5:27)
actually the bible speaks about turning and sin no more. you cannot walk the same sinful patterns as you once had while you were lost. It is very confusing to have a converted person not stand apart in their new life and show a true conversion by walking holy, especially when the continue in the same lifestyle they had always, where is the light then? It confuses those whom you are then trying to witness to. Take of the old self and clothe yourself in purity and like things, not old rags!
i agree with ashley, you are very uneducated. looking a certain way and listening to certain music does not mean you dont worship your god and believe in your religion.
If you watched the whole video, you would know that there's much, much more to this topic than just appearances.
It's true that Jesus judges the heart and not the appearance of man, but by focusing on just this issue, you're missing the whole point of the video.
The bible says we are to be holy, blameless, sanctified and not conformed to or loving this world. How is it sanctified if you can't tell it apart from secular music unless you read the lyrics?
the god you should be speaking about is to be respected, GOD is his name. She is a little blinded, so not good to be cheering her on, what you fill yourself up with is what you let out as well. Music and lyrics make an impact on a person and your are blinded if you dont recognize, what goes in changes a persons heart and mind, fill up on junk and junk you will be, fill up on good and you will flow out good.
You honestly have to be the most uneducated DOUCHE BAG I have ever come across. You might wanna do your research befor you go bashing... I'm sure "God" loves you right now for going out of your way to purposly attack people... So I have tats and piercings and that means I'm going to hell?? Rather be there with all my friends then in Heaven surrounded by your fellow brain washers!! DOUCHE
no offence but you're a troll and an idiot. Actual christian metal bands like Living Sacrifice or The Crimson Armada (there's plenty more) are to appeal to people who like metal but also worship. Personally I don't like worship or gospel but when its metal, i think its better. Its all about the message and how people want to take it. Go fuck yourself troll.
zake369 1 year ago
This video is right on spot. What are these people thinking that this music and behavior is of God?
woodster2k1 1 year ago
Thanks for putting this back up, Andy! Keep safe on the road and do everything for the Glory of God! :)
joejumps4fun 1 year ago
Paul Washer's famous "Shocking Youth Message" here on YT was done after a Christian metal mosh situation. He was never invited back to speak at that conference. Good video brother.
MustardSeedish 1 year ago
if a man can praise God with a acoustic guitar, why cant another guy grab a electric guitar and yell and scream God's name and worship him, metal for jesus for ever. and some of the bands your useing are porbably not christian at all, they just use the label because they cant get any other
Angel9477 1 year ago
the "oh, sleeper" cover has been explained. the pentogram stands for satans head, the top to angles that arent there stand for his horns, and in one of the songs its sung from God's point of view. part of it goes "they will sing to a world reborn, they will sing as i cut off your horns, ill cut off your horns"
the song is a retaliation from God to satan, because the first song on the album is satan challenging God and this one is the last song on the album. it has a christian meaning.
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graveawakeningbass 1 year ago
Believe it or not, Christian metal can connect people to God just as much as acoustic worship can. You should see a Sleeping Giant or For Today concert, people are lifting their hands worshiping God. Are you saying that the countless people, teens especially who have been saved through Christian metal are decieved servants of satan? It's not hard to see that metal can be used as a ministry to teens, and that many concerts are filled with God's presence and people who are worshiping God.
Timofsky 1 year ago
I have a test. Look up the lyrics for "In Christ" by Living Sacrifice. It might change the way you look at Christian metal. Look up the song too so you can see it is indeed a metal song. Do you think those lyrics are evil? They upfront worship our Creator. How can a song that worships God be evil? Because "In Christ" does nothing short of worship God.
Darkhyperchao 1 year ago
Continuation: EVERY SINGLE Christian metalhead you see in that mosh pit is filled with more hope and determination for God than most people that attend church and participate in worship. Don't tell me they're filled with hate. Lots of kids that listen to just Christian rock and not metal are dead in their faith. That's something I can't say metal ever made me feel. And Static-X was a horrible example. That's veering towards the nu-metal/hate metal Slipknot type genre.
gibsonfan3 1 year ago
There is nothing in the bible that says piercings are evil. The Jewish tradition was actually to pierce the noses of the servants. Secondly, if you would have actually done a little research, you would know that the Oh, Sleeper "Repentagram" does not indicate Satanism at all. The horns are ripped off, leaving an arrow pointing UPWARDS. Thirdly, I have been in dozens of mosh pits, and all I've felt is brotherly love from everyone participating. And the only hate I've ever felt is towards sin.
gibsonfan3 1 year ago
@gibsonfan3 Just pointing out, Impending Doom have the "repentagram", not Oh, Sleeper.
YoYoHall 1 year ago
@YoYoHall Haha, woops! Thanks dude.
gibsonfan3 1 year ago
Your 100% right! This music / image is decadent and worldly.
Followers of Yahshua / Jesus are to be set-apart, "Holy", set-apart from the rest of the world. These bands and kids are self justifying it because there not willing to let go of it, it means more to them than God's will, there deceiving there self. But remember, sanctification is a process, pray that these bands and kids will receive conviction and that there eyes will be open to the sin it is. You were right to leave that church.
EveryEyeWillSeeHim 1 year ago
Your 100% right! This music / image is decadent and worldly.
Followers of Yahshua / Jesus are to be set-apart, "Holy", set-apart from the rest of the world. These bands and kids are self justifying it because there not willing to let go of it, it means more to them than God's will, there deceiving there self. But remember, sanctification is a process, pray that these bands and kids will receive conviction and that there eyes will be open to the sin it is. You were right to leave that church.
EveryEyeWillSeeHim 1 year ago
To further my last point, in a mosh pit everybody is mutually agreeing that yes they might get hurt. It's like playing paintball. I'm not playing paintball to hurt the people on the other team, even though that does happen, I'm playing it because it's a game, and it's fun. If somebody gets shot in the eye, I don't laugh and keep playing, I stop the game and help that person. I find you to be very close minded sir.
YoYoHall 1 year ago
And let me comment on the Oh, Sleeper logo, if you would do your research and read interviews you would discover that it's actually a pentagram (which represents a goat's head) with the horns cut off (which references the final song on the album, about God's final defeat over Satan). As far as moshing goes, realize that the whole point of moshing isn't to hurt each other, but to express yourself. If somebody gets knocked down, they're picked up immediately.
YoYoHall 1 year ago
Your continued arguments on "appearance of evil" is misled. What makes heavy metal in itself dark and evil? And don't tell me because it was meant as "satan worship", that's committing the genetic fallacy. Saying distorted guitars are "evil" is just a reitteration of what people thought about the church organ at first, or should I say "the devil's bagpipes"
YoYoHall 1 year ago
@firecharger and being to one, nu metal concert doesn't make you an expert.
NTL199068 1 year ago
@NTL199068 going not being
NTL199068 1 year ago
@NTL199068
1 Concert? LoL. How could you know what I've been to or listened to?
I'm not going to continue to argue with you. The "Christian Metal" has damaged your ability to hear clearly.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger I'm just repeating what you said, you said you know metal because you went to a static x (which I wouldn't really call metal) concert, you didn't mention anything else and I'm not "hearing" what your saying now, I'm reading it genius
NTL199068 1 year ago
@firecharger I love how you are ignoring my comments
NTL199068 1 year ago
@firecharger You say your argument is based on scripture but the scripture doesn't apply. 1. metal isn't darkness. Are metal show's performed in dark venues? yes but that doesn't make it satanic, some churches hold services in the dark, ( a christmas eve service for example) besides that verse is refering to spiritual darkness not physical. God is the God of night as well as day. There is nothing inherently dark or evil about metal, its just a stereotype
NTL199068 1 year ago
@firecharger wasn't talking to you
NTL199068 1 year ago
What you are doing is trying to put christianity in a box, saying this or that can be christian, God is bigger than your little box. Stop condemning other's heart felt worship, its insulting. How would you like it if i walked in your church and told you to stop worshiping in your way because you are really serving satan?
NTL199068 1 year ago
Your main argument is the band looks and sounds like other secular bands of the genre. Christian rap sounds like secular rap the difference is the lyrics. Christian pop sounds like secular pop, the difference is the lyrics. christian country sounds like secular country THE DIFFERENCE IS THE LYRICS. I don't see you condemning these genres. As to the look, the same can be apllied christian rappers look like secular rappers etc.
NTL199068 1 year ago
This video is ignorance, plain and simple. You are caught up in the lie that both christian and non- christians alike believe. That metal is by default evil. this is simply a stereotype and nothing more. Music is neutral. Notes, rythym, instuments, beat, all are neither good or evil. Lyrics on the other hand can be good or evil, they are what determine the bands message, whether you as an individual can understand them is a mute point.
NTL199068 1 year ago
@NTL199068
What I'm hearing is your opinion while you haven't addressed what the Bible says regarding the fruit of the Spirit, God not being the author of confusion, walking in the light and not darkness, and everything else that's been addressed.
I've heard all the arguments for this music and I still don't see it lining up with God's word or character.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger and I'm telling you, you take those verses out of context and try to apply it to your argument. Metal doesn't equate darkness, metal doesn't equate confusion.
People use this music to save people, how is that "bad fruit" how can satan drive out satan. You don't understand the music (I mean the genre not the words), plain and simple. You are ignorant and i don't mean that as an insult, many people don't get what metal really is
NTL199068 1 year ago
@firecharger 2. Metal isn't confusion. Metal isn't as structured or predictable as other genres but it still has structure and order otherwise it wouldn't be music. Order is what seperates music from noise.3. Chritian metal has SAVED people. If that isn't good fruit, than I don't know what is. It doesn't promote violence or anger. Face it, you don't have a biblical argument
NTL199068 1 year ago
Hmmm... "Christian Metal"?? Is that like... let's say.. "Christian" cigarettes? or "Christian" booze? or "Christian " porn?? Yeah, I'd say its on the same level!! What fellowship hath light with darkness. One cannot drink from the cup of Christ and the cup of demons. Impossible!! The fruit of the Spirit is...... love, joy, peace ect.. this music manifests satanic fruit; anger, violent...
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
You're right, but read the comments and see how vehemently people defend this music. I've throw every bible verse I can think of at this topic, but they still justify it.
This music was born out of death metal. What more do we need to know?
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger And Paul was born of a persecutor of Christians. So he couldn't be a real Christian right? He was just fake and confusing people, am I right?
YoYoHall 1 year ago
@kingdmculture More ignorance, probably never heard a lick of any metal in your life
NTL199068 1 year ago
emilime0789: "The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." 1 samuel 16:7
Who are we to judge another person's heart? That is NOT our job. 1 day ago
well said. might want to take a second look at that firecharger.
ssbananabob 1 year ago
most so called christian metal bands dont really but lot of christian meaning in to there songs but there a a few of the bands that are true christians and write and play there music for God like with oh sleeper cd cover the last song on the cd talks about cuting off the devils horns and thats where they get the atr work for that cd
diedie11 1 year ago
Also, he doesn't understand the 'Cookie Monster' language. Dude! It's not your language - so stop stressing about it. Because YOU don't understand it doesn't mean I don't. Listen to and with your heart - that's where He is.
Do what you have to do sir, but you are seriously barking up the wrong tree.Bow wow!
MessengerOnline 1 year ago
@MessengerOnline There are multiple things going on here. One of the biggest is that Mr. firecharger is 'associating' what he sees with his eyes to what he has experienced in the PAST. He 'associates' tattoos and body jewelry with evil.
MessengerOnline 1 year ago
I'm not going to get involved in this any further, I don't believe we should fight about our believes. I have prayed about this topic also. Everyone's walk is different and yours is not meant to partake in this type of music but I believe it can be a ministry tool, I respect you for voicing yourself, but I also disagree but we are brothers in Christ and should not fight. God Bless you, and stay strong with God.
gmonrowe 1 year ago
First off Mychildren Mybride sucks and so does Sleeping Giant.
I've seen Oh, Sleeper multiple times(plus their from my hometown) and I think every band with Christian members should take their outlook, if they want to hear their views on the "Christian Lifestyle" then they can come up to them at a show and talk to them about it.
Or bands just shouldn't label themselves as a "Christian Band".
Have Christian members and stand for what they believe in, but not call themselves, a Christian Band.
ofdarknesspawns 1 year ago
"The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." 1 samuel 16:7
Who are we to judge another person's heart? That is NOT our job.
emilime0789 1 year ago
What lifestyle? What appearance?
I thought Jesus was hanging out with prostitutes and drunks and the filth of the Earth? I thought Jesus loved them despite all of that? I thought Jesus looked at the heart of a man and not the clothes he wore.
I think ti comes down to wear the band's heart is. If it is indeed for God, you have no right to say it's a bad thing. It's pretty plain and simple.
BrianHuddle 1 year ago 2
Search For today interview and click on the top result, if you don't think this music is a ministry
NTL199068 1 year ago
The "flask" in the video is a cologne bottle, it's kind of the whole point of the video. Did you watch it past the first 30 seconds? Go look at a band called For Today and tell me they are not christian. Watch the interviews, read the lyrics, you can't just look at the outward appearance of one band and use it to judge the whole genra, its simply not a valid argument
NTL199068 1 year ago
(Continued).....I have been able to bring 7 people to God and lead them in the prayer of Salvation, and every single one of them have told me its because they had a spark that ignited a flam for God through the music. I love you as a brother in Christ but as a brother I must tell you when I disagree with you. God Bless
gmonrowe 1 year ago
@gmonrowe
I looked up "I am terrified" and "Mortification" I can't understand what they're saying for the most part.
I prayed about this because I hear accounts like yours that say "people are getting saved" but the music seems very ungodly in it's presentation. So, I've been conflicted. I asked God "Am I coming against a ministry of yours?"
I was suddenly awakened in the middle of the night with the words ringing in my head "God is not the author of confusion" Read the rest of that verse.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger I don't see how that verse validates your argument, you are the one who is confused, we aren't. We know god uses this music to bring glory to his name.
NTL199068 1 year ago
@gmonrowe
So....If "God is not the author of confusion" why can't I understand the words of a song that's supposed to be glorifying Him?
Dude, even Kanye West raps about Jesus, but we know he's not a christian.
satan can deliver a sermon and talk about Jesus too, but we're taught to look at their fruits.
Gal. 5:22-23
love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance.
I don't see that in this music.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger So you can't understand what the band is saying, but that doesn't mean everyone can't. If you've been around the music you can understand the words. I can understand bands like Becoming the Archetype and For Today better than I can understand a lot of bands that sing. As long as the vocalist articulates you can understand screaming as easily as singing.
NTL199068 1 year ago
@NTL199068
Well, I guess your opinion is more important than God's opinion?
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger what do you mean by that? Are you saying God can't understand the words? He doesn't need to, he looks straight to the heart. Are you implying that "God's opinion" is that no one can understand the lyrics? how can you know that?
NTL199068 1 year ago
(continued).... And that is where everyone should take a step back and take a hard look at it to see if it is Godly. But you treat ALL Christian Metal bands like they are from Hell. I'm not saying I'm perfect and you shouldn't say you are perfect either and I'm not saying your saying that. But you should really get ALL the facts not just the ones you twist to fit your opinion........(Continued in next)
gmonrowe 1 year ago
(Continued)....There is a band in Australia called Mortification that sings SCRIPTURE in the bars and pubs and underground metal clubs. You tare apart these bands but don't even try to find out what exactly the images in the videos and album covers are meant to represent. try to get in contact with some of the bands. I can agree with you on the fact that there are some bands that are some what "posers" that say they are Christians but don't show it.........(Continued in next)
gmonrowe 1 year ago
I would really like you to look at a band named "I Am Terrified" look at there lyrics. and let me know what you think. I myself was a unbeliever 5 years ago, I listened to bands like Disturbed, Metallica, Slipknot...and so many non Christian bands, I was actually ministered through and brought to Christ through the messages in the LYRICS of Christian metal bands. such as Stryper, and my personal favorite is I Am Terrified........(see next comment for continued)
gmonrowe 1 year ago
What's christianity?
RipBipBear 1 year ago
Wow man, do you even know how many kids here about Jesus at these shows? From personal experience these guys have touched some of my own friends, some of these guys are the most realest christian people. There not stuck in a religion, they have Jesus and represent him to people who need him. You are being very very judgmental. did you know there are also acoustic bands that aren't christian. Should we judge them too? What kind of music is acceptable?
marcostjohnable 1 year ago
Part 2 Come on man, get with it. David was misunderstood (little guy), Jesus was misunderstood (winebibber). Just be careful - be led - not just by your own understanding, or a teacher that makes you feel good - but by the Spirit of God - God on Earth, the Holy Ghost.
MessengerOnline 1 year ago
Nah, sorry. This is full of loaded rhetorical questions. Dude, if is isn't from God that's one thing. But judge righteous judgement. Be careful that you're not creating your own religion based on your feelings instead of being taught by the Holy Spirit. There are also a lot of people in the world that would prefer there be all white churches and no one to throw up on them when they are praying for someone. Or there are people who wouldn'y sit next to a homeless guy in a church.
MessengerOnline 1 year ago
PT1 as far as Christain metal not being an act of God goes, you're wrong. I personally have been brought to Christ through the ministry of bands your telling me aren't Christain. God also says to Go and make deciples of all nations(Matt 28:18) also READ THE FREAKING LYRICS Oh, sleeper's last song on the album you showed ends with the line I WILL CUT OFF YOUR HORNS, reffering to the devil, the pentagram is broken to symbolise Gods victory over the devil. Sleeping Giant's frontman Thom Green
keeein 1 year ago
PT2 has an incredibly story of how he came to God, and read the lyrics to Oh Praise Him a song they play every show The entire song is bringing about praising God for the countless blessing He's givin us. Christain mosh pits are way calmer than anything youd see at Static X My life was changed in a Sleeping Giant mosh pit For Today another Christain metal band signed to Facedown records, a Christain metal label, I ve spoke to the members of that band and they helped me truly give my life to God
keeein 1 year ago
PT3 In your other video you say we need to judge people by their fruit, I ve been to these shows I saw in person the Christain deathcore band Impending Doom preform the song they wrote that is based off and named after Romans 8 as far as their sound goes, i could write a gregorian chant about the devil but it wont mean gregorian chants could lead people to the devil in a sinfull world there will always be evil things that look like and sould like Godly things, you cant denounce their ministry
keeein 1 year ago
@keeein You tell 'im dude! Wow, huh?
MessengerOnline 1 year ago
HAVE U EVER HEARD OF FUN!!!!!!!!
moshing is fun u should go and have fun and the flask is for money and wuts wrong wit dinkin if u read your bible u would find that jesus drank and dont talk crap about mychildmybride u never talked to them if u dont like the music than fine just dont talk crap about it.
oh and sleeping giant is christian
familyforce5fan4life 1 year ago
That MCMB song was about addictions and how you can break them. Listen to the breakdown.
Pantera isn't Christian, but just because it's not a Christian band doesn't mean you can't listen to it. I listen to MOSTLY Christian metal. Not even just MCMB kinda stuff. like old stuff, ie living sacrifice, vengeance rising, deuteronium, tourniquet.
But you can't tell me you've NEVER listened to Secular Country music. You look like a country boy, how is country different than metal?
shadowsoldier492 1 year ago
HAIL THE BLACK MESSIAH
BESTIALTWILIGHT 1 year ago
if a child drew their dad a picture and put their whole heart in wouldnt he give it the highest value of the world no matter how it looked. ive known metal band members that just with their testimony show a closer relationship to God than the farisees sitting in todays pews waiting for their next prey to prowl on. Plus back in his time Jesus was probably the biggest rebel of all just for healling people on the sabbath.
10davidserrano 1 year ago
Thats only a few bands and you are so wrong. Screaming doesn't mean your not worshipping. Also remember there are these kids who were from the secular world now saved and thats what they listen to but if there aren't christain metal they may just go back to listening to secular music. I am sorry but i tottaly disagree have you read the lyrics.
jdglaze2014 1 year ago
i once knew a guy whose idol was Hitler. He was a very troubled individual. He told me one day that a Christian metal band had recruited him to be their singer. He was a fairly "good" (if you can term that sound as being good) death metal singer. This singing is like the singing in this video in the song near the beginning. So this band that supposedly praises God is recruiting a Hitler lover for the sound he brings? Sounds like priorities are a little off there.
Itsfaith33 1 year ago
@Itsfaith33 Dude, Hitler was a devout Lutheran... Double check your history bro
schattenseele88 1 year ago
@schattenseele88
Whats your point? You totally lost me on this one. This guy didn't like hitler because he was a lutheran. The fact that he was is totally besides the point. He liked hitler for his racist ideologies and his justification for violence and world control. The fact that Hitler was a lutheran is totally inconsequential. Hitler didn't follow his lutheran beliefs, he betrayed them and went against the spirit of Christ.
Itsfaith33 1 year ago
@Itsfaith33 Actually, Martin Luther condemned modern jews as a parasitic blight upon humanity. So if you wanna get TECHNICAL, Hitler was more of a good lutheran fighting for the spirit of Christ than anyone will ever be. I don't support Genocide, or Hitler; HOWEVER, I do support historical accuracy and fact-checking before speaking.
schattenseele88 1 year ago
@schattenseele88
Wow I did not know that. Thats kind of crazy, considering Christ was a Jew. I don't get how people get off condemning all Jews as being bad people its just not true. I love the Jews....politically speaking they've done some bad thing recently but the situation in Palestine is complicated to put it lightly. As for fact checking I'm pretty sure that even most Lutherans would be unaware of the little known fact you speak of. Its just not something someone thinks to check!
Itsfaith33 1 year ago
@schattenseele88
Everyone has some historical blindness except for perhaps the best historians in the world. Please I don't like the attitude of your comment. Its not done with the best of intentions. Don't patronize others over their own unawareness of ignorance. Not everyone knows everything and we all make mistakes.
Itsfaith33 1 year ago
@schattenseele88
But wasn't Hitler also a big fan of Nietzsche? Nietzsche hated the Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity. He's nicknamed "the antichrist philosopher" for a reason.
Dn8Free 1 year ago
Is moshing worship?
does it have to be?
moshing is dancing,
is any other dancing worship?
is going shopping worship?
WeCrapEggs 1 year ago
dude for today sings straight from the bible you cant tel me thats not christian
f3nd13y 1 year ago
You are right on! I have thought the same myself for some time now. God Bless!
sccloser 1 year ago
That is kinda dumb man...
if you keep up with your bible you will learn that God excepts everyone...
maybe you should follow him...I'm glad this kid express himself and reach out to people who might look up to him...and he might save one lost soul..shouldn't you be proud about that?
Cwhobbs11 1 year ago
@Cwhobbs11
God accepts everyone who repents.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10: 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger
God loves everyone no matter what people do.
dont tell me thats not true!
if i go up to some alcaholic wreck i can say that God loves him.
im not going to say to him that God will only once you repent.
WeCrapEggs 1 year ago
@WeCrapEggs
God loves everyone, but that doesn't mean everyone gets a free pass into heaven. The bible is very clear that you must be a born again believer in Jesus Christ to enter heaven. You MUST turn away from sin. Jesus said "He who loves me, keeps my commandments"
You can tell that alcoholic wreck that God loves him, but you must also tell him that no drunkard will enter the kingdom of heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger
Amen, brother, I left my first church(Southern Baptist), over 9 years ago over modern music and the deleting of the KJV.
Obviously it is ungodly.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago
@firecharger The act of truly Loving God should inspire a change If you have completly given your life to Christ then you probably won't want to keep sinning Jesus' death and resurection shows that God loves everyone, everyone is given a get out of hell free card Being a born again beliver simpily means that you love God and accept Jesus as you Lord and Savior Read Romans 3:23-24 and John 3:16-17 Ephesians 2:8-9 says You are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ anyone can get into heaven
keeein 1 year ago
If it's created to worship God, it's Christian music, no matter what. Also, the 10 commandments were made for us to see that we needed God in our lives or else we wouldn't be anything. New "laws" in the New Testament.
xResurrectx 1 year ago
and by the way, The FLASK? it wasnt a flask, it was a perfume bottle!! watch the next 10 seconds of the video! and whats wrong with sleeping giant? i didnt see what you had against them. they are great
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
This really stupid. who said tattoos and piercings are bad. all those bands are christian bands. does a christian band have to only worship God? its a band of christians, not a christian band really. they can sing about whatever. moshing is fun. why should moshing be bad. this guy knows nothing about metal.
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
@xIAMDAVEx
God said tats and piercings are bad.
Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Based on what I see on your channel, I would find it hard to believe you have spiritual discernment on this matter.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger
Liviticus! is old testament. in the old testament it also says you arent allowed to shave your face and eat meat. laws were changed. and when they say marking on you back in the day they used ashes from their ansestors and stuff. not really ink tats.
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
@xIAMDAVEx
Do some research on where tats came from. It's a pagan practice.
Do you read your bible?
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger
old testament. you must be very religious to still follow those old rules.
i know lots of christian youth group leaders that have full sleeve tattoos.
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
@xIAMDAVEx
Just cause a youth group leader does it, doesn't mean God's cool with it. read your bible.
firecharger 1 year ago
@xIAMDAVEx Old Testament is still relevant.
sccloser 1 year ago
well lyrically yes, they are christian... the talk about God in their lyrics and they actually call people to christ in their concerts. also the bible say's not to judge, and your judging them by their apperance. my children my bride dosent represent all of heavy metal. they only represent themselfs... for example august burns red have no tatooes. further more that pentagram was against satan..cutting off the horns not promoting creation over christ.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
Hmm alot of rap singers talk about drugs sex and violence.
They wear extremely baggy clothes which reminds me of these things because they sing about them sometimes..
If I see a christian wearing baggy clothes and rapping should I think that's evil ?
No.
arleksundah 1 year ago
thanks firecharger for this video. I have some friends who listen to this type of music and who claim that this music is christian. ill make sure to pass this video along to them, but hey do you know any artists or groups that play christian rap,hiphop,and r&b i dont know where to find any
young2theb 1 year ago
LOL @ 7:30-7:40 lol just like me praise God
Nephtali1981 1 year ago
I am sorry I build a wall on your videos that I feel need responded too.. Be careful not to think that your salvation lies within the Law. If you are going to play Law you got to do the Sabbath on Saturday and puke Easter (Ishtar) and Christmas (Talmuz/Baal) up like the darkness masquerading light that it is. Man cannot live by the Law. If any men could there would have been no need for the sacrifice of Christ as our propitiation bought and purchased by his own blood.
drevenkaine 1 year ago
Read the lyrics of the group called Lamb of God... if the people who listen to this band actually believe this is inspired in anyway by Christ are disturbed. No spirit filled individual could listen to that imo and not feel like they were being spiritually attacked. I turn on the video by Nate called the Fire every so often to see how well I hold up against that onslaught. The first time I heard that I got a burning feeling in my stomach that was uncomfortable, it opened my eyes.
drevenkaine 1 year ago
@drevenkaine
the band lamb of god are no where near a christian band and have never said they are one.
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
continued from last post ---> Jesus talking Mark 3:28-30 KJV
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
Imagine the witnessing those Christian metal kids are doing? A righteous mans steps are ordered. If there spirit filled all is well.
drevenkaine 1 year ago
I agree with you but at some point you have to let those be. Jesus said if your not against me your with me. In the end it will be up to God to chastise his children. If they are truly his children they will be lead in the right direction. You see I see this stuff all the time. I am defending Profit Owuor from other's who call themselves Christians who mock Owuor and say he is of the devil because he slays people in the spirit. I being from an apostolic background, don't agree with them
drevenkaine 1 year ago
The stuff you showed in your video is definately NOT worshiping Christ or spreading the gospel.
picc01 1 year ago
ok tats are not bad yea i dont agree with some of the things on there..everyone sins there is only one sin bigger then all and that is to deny Gods name...im sure u have ate more then ur body can take and thats a sin right there so all sins amout out to the same..yes others see sins diff bc it isnt there life style..i have tats and i will continue to get them but it doesnt mean i will go to hell
yotapimpin9 1 year ago
Ok. i have comment on one of your videos before (not sure if it was this one or part 2) and I have heard a very good point. Jesus said to be fishers of men. so to do this we need to ask ourselves, "what do you do when fishing?" You need bait for the fish to bite. Just like using worms to attract the fish, Music can be a bait to lure people into hearing the gospel.
goalmaster14 1 year ago
AHAHAHAHAHA!!! CHRISTIANS ARE SO STUPID!! lmao ahaha godly worship lifestyle?! lmao, smoke a bowl, drink a beer & SIN to your hearts content, its so fun :D appreciate all the things satan brings into life, hes another creation from god therefor anything he creates is a by product of gods creation, SIN! SIN! SIN! HAIL SATAN LMAO
havok6669 1 year ago
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER lets all Sin to our hearts content stick it to tha man! SATAN! A
yahkcool 1 year ago
@havok6669
It may be fun now, but it has consequences.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
firecharger 1 year ago
And as for the mosh pit.
Is that chicago bears hat on your head?
Football is just as violent as a mosh pit yet it is acceptable
what's the difference?
NTL199068 1 year ago
@NTL199068
It's a Cincinnati Reds hat. I don't watch baseball or any other sport anymore.
Regardless of Oh Sleeper's logo, does the music and the band members' lifestyles match up with the bible?
firecharger 1 year ago
Yes sir, Oh Sleeper is full of god fearing young men who share their faith through music. Have you done more than just looked at their logo? Have you listened to a song and read the lyrics? Have you watched an interview with the band to hear their take on their faith and music? Maybe you should do that before you judge them. I don't think Mychildren Mybride is a prime example of a christian metal band. Look at, For Today, August Burns Red or In the Midst of Lions
NTL199068 1 year ago
I'm going to defend oh sleeper
That BROKEN pentegram is a mockery of satan. It represents god's victory over satan. The pentegram represents the head of a goat, and that pentegram represents a goat with its horns cut off. Do some research
NTL199068 1 year ago
Yes. I am in the same page as you. Good point.
mecarol7 1 year ago
@iloveredbull
1st vid---Does drumming on buckets advance the kingdom of God? Did he tell him the gospel? Did he tell the guy his testimony about Jesus?
2nd vid-- Where's Jesus in those lyrics? You can call the pizza delivery guy Lord if you want. Doesn't mean they're singing to Jesus even if you think they are.
Did you know that even demons have acknowledge Jesus as the Christ and the Son of God. Does that make them christians?
firecharger 1 year ago
Mark 3:11 And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
Luke 4:41
And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
Luke 8:28
When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger i guess this is you showing the acknowledgements, which as i said was a bit of a contradiction. i'm sorry if i've rubbed you the wrong way but i feel you being to general and there are little gems as it were if you can find them its may just be like finding a needle in a hay stack. "Open your closed mind, close your open mouth. your pushing more than your pulling."
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@firecharger 1st no it doesn't and no he didn't i showed that video as you stated that you do not have to become a clone of the secular bands with tattoos ect. this proves that not all christian metal bands do.
2nd no he wasn't maybe as i was kinda claiming it not a worship song but as you and anyone else knows if you know a band so catch up with the blogs/ interviews ect. therefore i know its about himself and jesus. and i think your being picky if thts all you could say you know there....
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@firecharger 2nd..... great lyrics, i don't really think you could deny that. you also just contradicted yourself by saying that acknowledging Jesus Christ doesn't make you christian so they didn't need too.
by the way i'm not trying to say your wrong i don't think you are completely i just think that the whole christian metal genre is evil. there are bands that don't do any of the long list you explained. i still believe your being narrow minded and basing upon opinion.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@iloveredbull
I haven't contradicted myself. Anyone can acknowledge Jesus Christ. In fact, churches are full of people that do, but many still live sinful lives. Repentance is required.
Regardless of your opinion of this music or mine, would you still follow Jesus Christ for who He is and what He's done if this music disappeared tomorrow?
firecharger 1 year ago
@firecharger ok maybe i misunderstood where you were coming from when you said 'where was jesus in those lyrics?' but it still feels a bit contradicting as your saying they should have acknowledged Jesus in the lyrics but then you say doing this doesn't make you christian or that people do and lead sinful lives therefore the lyrics didn't necessarily need this.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@firecharger
Yes i would, i don't follow jesus because of the music i listen too. i don't think many do its just a small support/ comfort if you like. which is why i feel your exaggerating this issue. maybe one day one of us will change our opinions. God Bless.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
@firecharger Repentance is a change of mind.
dutchmcgee101 1 year ago
@dutchmcgee101
Which results in a change of actions.
firecharger 1 year ago
by the way matt griener is the drummer for the second band, not so scary looking as you were portraying christian metal band members.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
Please look at the first link, the second if you really hate screaming just mute and read the lyrics although i dont class most metal songs as worship, this i do or as close as you'll get as a whole song. and the last is really brutal, but would it really portray a different meaning if it was a lovely acoustic song again. literally verses arranged into a song.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
i agree with some of what you've said, but i feel you've been very narrow minded; maybe from an outsiders view the christian metal scene doesn't look great but if you love it and are immersed by it you know where the heart is at and who the most respectable bands are, and not just in terms of music. speaking of the music at which point does a drum become evil is it the rhythm being played? same with a guitar, is it a certain note? and vocalist not all look angry. check the links in my next post.
iloveredbull 1 year ago
hold on there !! "Worldliness"?? knowin about the big ole world and its many cultures and beliefs just make ones connection to Jesus even stronger! and beer and metal dont affect yer beliefs because ya can always weed out the more obnoxious pointless bands, and focus on the good ones! and barley is grown in earth! and God made earth! therefore, God has provided the barley! therefore, drinkin beer is a holy act of submission to Gods plan! its our sacred duty! :D
acerb45666555 1 year ago
@acerb45666555
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
firecharger 1 year ago
I am a guitarist for a Christian Metal Band, Maranatha Complex. I live by the Lord and will die for Him, forsaking all others. I am listening to your commentary, but I am confused. There are obviously fake "Christians" in the world, and then there are those who are at a different levels of sanctification. But what about what the Apostle Paul said in I Corinthians 9:19-23 about becoming all things to all men so that he might save some and be a fellow partaker of the Gospel with them. God bless.
nickcovanes 1 year ago
@nickcovanes
Should I, as a Christian, have to mute the music on your video to read the lyrics because I find the sounds to be abhorrent to my spirit?
You make a decent point, but where does one draw the line?
firecharger 1 year ago
@nickcovanes KUDOS
OrganicDad 1 year ago
Remember... JESUS hung out with sinners and people who were different looking for their time. Don't you think Jesus would hang out with guys with tatts if he were to walk the earth today. The key here is the MESSAGE!! What are they saying? Are there FRUITS? Not how one looks. God be with you.
OrganicDad 1 year ago
@OrganicDad
Jesus did hang out with the sinners, but the sinners that reacted to His message drastically changed their behavior.
Listen from 4:03 to 4:40. Should a Christian that's been born again continue getting tattoos and piercings?
firecharger 1 year ago
Clearly you didn't watch the video and just jumped to conclusions.....
@ 3:37 that isn't a "flask for their Christian Starbucks".... It's a bottle of Cologne containing the acronyms MCMB (My Children My Bride)
As far as the Pantera shirt.... I cant make a Judgment if this is right or wrong for THEM...as for ME as a Christian, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing such filth.
You mention that you have to look a certain way... I almost think that is the most judgmental statement of the year.
OrganicDad 1 year ago
@OrganicDad
I made an error in saying it was a flask. Does that justify the rest of the video or the music?
firecharger 1 year ago
Thank you for stating your reasons for hating christian music. We will try and take into account not to use any christian themes so as not to hurt your feelings. Have a wonderful day.
KillingTheSon 1 year ago 2
win the lost at any cost. jesus died for our sins. 39 lashes, 3 nails. if your not willing to accept theses kids that are in the secular scene how can you show gods love to them?
lucas46273 1 year ago
dude i really understand where your comeing form and all.. and alot of bands that may say they are christian may not be. but to be honest you, you gotta do some more research. your geting into what everyones listing to.. look up the band close your eyes. wile screaming- "oh god i'll say i love you but it wouldnt be enough". look more into this music bro. this may confict your heart but you cant judge these kids. if you dont like it dont listen to it! but your not god he knows our hearts.
lucas46273 1 year ago
I used to be a Christian...it was awful.....
xepergod 1 year ago
who are we to juge thats up to god not me or anybody else i know of a church that kicks it members and they are the ones that really need god check my video the one church thats sucks and let me know what you think
superman28016 1 year ago
hail satan 666 bitch dethrone the son of god
fortsigma 1 year ago
@fortsigma
So, you like this music?
firecharger 1 year ago
I bet you're about 12 years old, fortsigma. Hail the Power Rangers, buddy-o.
MrBluntCunt 1 year ago
I was thinking the same thing. I am almost certain that the reason this is happening is because church attendance is falling and they need ways to attract young people. They are being attracted for the wrong reasons, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
I personally don't see anything godly OR ungodly about it. Its just people doing their thing. "People" not God, doing their thing. As if it could be anything else...
Moonbogg 1 year ago
its called positive hardcore i know where i am swinging when i dance.
look up the acacia strain and the song Jesus fucking Christ.
look up lyrics and compare it to mcmb.
then post a third video
ellis2324 1 year ago
I might agree that that some of the things you have said, the look and appearance of the groups have an affect and the way they present their bands are not acceptable. But you using 3 examples of bands that don't have a good grasp of Christianity. How can you use this to represent All Christian Music. Look at bands like Flyleaf and POD. They are also considered Metal bands. Are they against God. You are generalizing something and pointing the finger at everyone affiliated with Metal.
cmm1190 1 year ago
We are known by our fruits.
I am always glad to see someone stand up for his beliefs as you have. What people need to understand is that music is very powerful and because it is, it is a very strong tool for the enemy.
You have my respect for speaking up on a topic that you know you will be ridiculed for yet your loyalty to God is more important.
God bless you
66thPsalm 1 year ago
@66thPsalm It is a strong tool.. but can't someone take a tool and use it against the enemy? I see nothing wrong with metal. It's just music.
igottehgoodstuffz 1 year ago
what bands are you talking about that their lyrics aren't christiann? As I Lay Dying has the deepest lyrics i've ever heard and there's no doubt whatsoever that they're christian. same with Disciple, Skillet, August Burns Red (the most clean cut heavy metal band i've every seen), The Devil Wears Prada, Pillar, Red, Spoken, Underoath.
All have undeniable lyrics. almost all of them (whose concerts i've been to) make it very clear what their intentions are. Skillet espeshly has led countless ToHim
goalmaster14 1 year ago
okay, this is rediculous, tattoos and piercings are a form of self expression and it doesnt mean ur unholy God will not judge you cause of it. in the my children my bride video that wasnt a flask thts a cologne bottle , its a part of the concept of the video, watch a little more. and moshing is like a form of dance, a little violent, but people rarely get hurt and if they do they're more than likley in the pit and if someone falls they're helped up. ur rediculous God wont judge cause of music
higginsnine4 1 year ago
I stop watching the video after you showed a clip of that music. I only saw it for 4 seconds and stop it. My head feel funny from this music. I'm happy I don't listen to this trash.
YahGlory 1 year ago
@YahGlory Lol you calling Chrisitan Music trash? Hmm. That sounds like blasphemy or something.
igottehgoodstuffz 1 year ago
You're like people in the 50's who thought Rock'N'Roll was evil. In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock. That's what Christian metal is. And if one person gets saved because of it, that's not worth it to you?!! Imagine yourself telling Jesus: "Yeah, I know that guy came to know you because of it, I still think it's wrong." Just a thought.
prisonofflesh 1 year ago
I use to listen to secular metal then I found Christian metal and it woke me up to the faith. God created music, music isn't evil, words are. If the words praise God, why would you say it's evil? Christian metal just expresses another side of Christianity. It ain't all roses! Can't tell people how horrible eternity is going to be if they don't repent? Gotta be so PC?
prisonofflesh 1 year ago
I'm sorry to say that you sound self-righteous. You're going on and on, judging people you don't know. If you'd ever been to a christian metal concert you'd know that a lot of the kids there are not Christians, they just enjoy the music. Christian metal IS worship! Your video makes me so sad and really hurts.
prisonofflesh 1 year ago
this is what you call wolves in sheeps clothing, but even the clothing looks like wolves. these are deceivers who sing this music, feel what it brings up in you, certainly not peace, it is dark and heavy and brings a spirit of discontentment and forboding. we are to come out of the world, not wrap up something worldy and try to package it with a Christian bow. Some how I dont see Jesus throwing back a brew and slamming around with them and screaming Jesus loves me this I know. Just not good!
kindredinspirit 2 years ago
I thought Jesus died for all our sins?? I must have recieved a diffenert version of the bible!! One where God forgives and loves you no matter who you are or what you look like... its a great version, you should read it!! My minister has a tattoo, I should tell her that she is going to hell.. she might wanna be filled in on that fact! This whole vid goes against exactly what Christianity stands for, congrats for FAILING at life and Christianity! ! Plp like you need to be smacked "God Forgive Me"
ashleyboone 2 years ago
I just told you that tattoos don't send people to hell. However, continuing in sin cannot be overlooked by God.
When you are born again, the Spirit of God guides you towards repentance and sanctification from the world. Christians shouldn't continue in things (such as tats) that God has spoken against.
Be not conformed to the world, but transformed by the renewing of your mind (Romans 12:2)
Jesus wants a bride that is spotless and blameless before God. (Ephesians 5:27)
firecharger 2 years ago
actually the bible speaks about turning and sin no more. you cannot walk the same sinful patterns as you once had while you were lost. It is very confusing to have a converted person not stand apart in their new life and show a true conversion by walking holy, especially when the continue in the same lifestyle they had always, where is the light then? It confuses those whom you are then trying to witness to. Take of the old self and clothe yourself in purity and like things, not old rags!
kindredinspirit 2 years ago
i agree with ashley, you are very uneducated. looking a certain way and listening to certain music does not mean you dont worship your god and believe in your religion.
meggyLETDOWN 2 years ago
@meggyLETDOWN
If you watched the whole video, you would know that there's much, much more to this topic than just appearances.
It's true that Jesus judges the heart and not the appearance of man, but by focusing on just this issue, you're missing the whole point of the video.
The bible says we are to be holy, blameless, sanctified and not conformed to or loving this world. How is it sanctified if you can't tell it apart from secular music unless you read the lyrics?
firecharger 2 years ago
the god you should be speaking about is to be respected, GOD is his name. She is a little blinded, so not good to be cheering her on, what you fill yourself up with is what you let out as well. Music and lyrics make an impact on a person and your are blinded if you dont recognize, what goes in changes a persons heart and mind, fill up on junk and junk you will be, fill up on good and you will flow out good.
kindredinspirit 2 years ago
You honestly have to be the most uneducated DOUCHE BAG I have ever come across. You might wanna do your research befor you go bashing... I'm sure "God" loves you right now for going out of your way to purposly attack people... So I have tats and piercings and that means I'm going to hell?? Rather be there with all my friends then in Heaven surrounded by your fellow brain washers!! DOUCHE
ashleyboone 2 years ago
@ashleyboone
Tattoos and piercings don't send people to ****. It's the rejection of Jesus Christ and lack of repentance from sin.
firecharger