No matter what any commission says, there was someone behind the knoll who fired the fatal shot that blasted the rear right side of the skull off JFK's head & it was no amateur either. This was a trained marksman who knew exactly what he was doing. Was LBJ involved? Would he take the risk of getting hit by a bullet that may have missed? We know he took over once JFK was gone but I'm skeptical about LBJ being involved. He would have been fried immediately. No one is that powerful.
The JFK-Administration had a lot of excellent members, like Theodore Sorensen, Bobby Kennedy, Bob McNamara and Cyrus Vance.
Unfortunately, there were a number of extremely poor people - advisers, military officers and other executives - who darkened the future of beauty and hope. These include Curtis Le May, Lyndon B Johnson and Allen Dulles (Gris Bay's most prominent supporters). I need hardly add that JFK should have kicked the JE Hoover on his first day as president, this scum!
How much did Director J Edgar Hoover knew about the events of November 22, 1963? I don´t mean that the Bureau "did it" but what I say is did Hoover make any cover-ups regarding the investigation about the assassination?
I believe JFK was shot (the fatal third shot) from right in front of him (someone at the Grassy Knoll, or behind towards Stemmons Hway). I don´t think a man like Oswald did it...alone. He - Oswald - was part of a conspiracy (and might not have known it at all)
@714AD Lee Bowers who worked in the railroad tower saw two men a good half hour or more standing behind the stockade fence. The plotters had to have a gunman up close, the knoll, so as to make surte that JFK did not survive the shooting. Because then JFK would have had a REAL investigation and the culprits would have been caught and hung. LBJ, who was probably in on it, along with Hoover, supressed all evidence to make sure the lone nut assassin was the official report.
@Humes53 Read what LBJ's mistress Madeleine Brown has to say about a meeting at the home of Cowboy owner Clint Murchison the night before the assassination. I'd believe her before I believed Lyin Lyndon.
If Oswald had any role it was to thwart the assassination. How is it that a description of Oswald goes out within 30 minutes? A faction of the CIA (David Atlle Phillips, Gen. Lansdale and others) hired mob shooters and LBJ and Hoover covered up any evidence. Bannister, Clay Shaw, Ferrie and others cooperated, Trafficante. Warren Commision all baloney. Had to have a shooter close up on the knoll to make sure 100% that JFK did not survive the attack or JFK would have had an investigation
@Humes53 You're right about the Knoll though. A blind man could see something else was lurking out there and the fatal shot was clearly fired from the knoll. With all the confusion whoever it was quietly slipped away and remember, there was nothing like today's video cameras to monitor the activity in the streets etc. because if there had been at the time we would have known for sure exactly what happened & could have gone further than speculation. .
Sure sure no one can ever find out the truth. JFK wanted Tesla free energy ships and everyone else wanted rockets so LBJ got a Space Center and Nixon and Disney sent men to the Moon. Tesla said Earth provides 36" of lead protection. You figure out where the astronauts went. 50X the speed of light particle energy that Tesla discovered means free energy yet liars in science locked up all up Tesla's work except they fly his ship to spite up.
What about these people interviewed at the time ? watch?v=uB_68m6yDHY&feature=related
Its funny how people still believe the 'official line' when in fact some ex-members of the WC itself later denounced its findings themselves. These are the people who fed you the lies in the first place !! And yet, people still believe in the magic bullet-lone gunman theory. Er....dumb or what ?
To metros2: My educated opinion better be MIGHTY SPECIAL to get your attention. Like you, I have read, studied, and considered every OPINION under the sun re: this planned tragedy. If you really want to know, you've got to look somewhere else, like right under your nose. Trust me.............I figured it out. However, the delivery of this punchline has to be perfect.
@metros2 What the hell am I talking about? The motive for killing JFK. THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'll give you a hint. The reason no one could figure it out was because the motive was (kind of) hidden for 10 years. I said (kind of). The motive is now clear and it was done RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR NOSES.
There was NEVER a question of whether or not Oswald pulled the trigger. He had the gun mail ordered to him. It was preowned and had/had a semi-automatic clip attached. The smoke screen question revolved mostly around if he acted alone; vis-s-vis, grassy knoll figure, multiple echos in dealy plaza, the mob, etc, etc. In my educated opinion, all these questions throw us off of thinking about the motive. The motive has been revealed!!
Conspiracy nuts are the first to say the system is all a big front, yet they unwittingly believe in the system to their core. They can't accept a loser like Oswald succeeded in killing a President. They can't accept Ruby killed Oswald in a room full of Police.
There has to be an incredible reason behind it all, because Police don't screw up & Presidents can only be killed by powerful men.
Mundane fact: Presidents are human & they die. Police screw up. End of story.
@matooli Everything you said in your reply was right on BUT it's not the "End of story", as you put it. It was really only the very beginning of it for us IF you only knew the motive. RSVP
@matooli Boy life's simple for this airhead. So I'm supposed to believe that Police USUALLY screw up and people who are medium shots out perform FBI sharp shooters ROUTINELY?? Is that the way you think? did you see the z film? Does it LOOK like the shot came from the rear or the front? Oh wait I forgot the "optical illusion" thing. That's right we can't accept optical illusions either. I think you need to take a class in logic would probably be good for you.
Zapruder film: Kennedy, sitting rigid in back brace, jerks FORWARD & DOWN, then back. Large shot blasts out the FRONT SIDE of JFK's head: ie- EXIT wound. ie-shot from BEHIND. Little girl runs down street, looks BEHIND at shots. ie- gunshots come from BEHIND. Witnesses who actually see shooter at book depository window. Real question: why are you willing to accept any theory about the assassination besides Oswald being guilty? A sense of empowerment?
@matooli You mention a little girl looks BEHIND at shots how about the dozens of witnesses you can clearly see charging up the grassy knoll after the assassination?? Hello? And as far as Oswald I have no idea whether he as innocent or guilty but the physics indicate a frontal head shot so unless he was somewhere ar ound the knoll, he didn't take the final shot. Also the WC puts him eating lunch at around 12:10-12:15 the time Kennedy was scheduled to be in dealey plaza according to newspapers
Really? What motive was that? You mean the one in the "official" Warren Report that told us Oswald's motive was to "seek for himself a place in history- a role as the 'Great Man' "?
Interesting, isn't it?...and at the very moment when Oswald had the chance to get to that 'place in history' by taking credit for demising the leader of the Free World, he denies the deed & calls himself a patsy? What's your "educated opinion" on THAT?
Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
@kevinjomlor Oswald was definitely innocent. He did nothing.
DPD Chief Jesse Curry before his death: "We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building with a gun in his hand."
Don't be stupid about this. The Warren Commission was never established to determine a possible motive but to examine the crime scene details only....... and they did a superb job. It's the Kennedy assasination, not the second coming. The MOTIVE has FINALLY been established.
When people are told what the motive was (in my humble opinion), every one of them is stopped in their tracks......................because it makes too much sense. It took a long , long time to figure it out, finally the search is done. Mysterious huh?
A lame deflection on LBJ's part in this video, just like his orchestration of the Warren Commission. LBJ was a master manipulator and with J. Edgar Hoover obfuscated the real circumstances surrounding JFK's murder. LBJ was a puppet of Big Business and the Military Industrial complex, and was handsomely rewarded for his efforts. I don't believe that the real truth will ever come out as the hidden powers behind JFK's murder are still very much in power today.
JFK didn't want him as VP actually, and didn't need him to win Texas. That's the spin that LBJ's people put out. Other books and documentaries (you can find some of them on YouTube) have revealed that Johnson forced himself into JFK's ticket by using J. Edgar Hoover's blackmail on JFK to make himself VP. Kennedy wanted a different running mate.
Just exactly "WHO" was he referring to at the end where he says "... Oswald and others that may have been involved" ??? What did HE know about the "others"? As if he didn't know EXACTLY what the hell went on that dreadful day in Dallas. I bet he'd have been a real top notch speaker with todays teleprompters. Liar Liar Pants On FIre... Scuzbucket...Sumbeeotch.
What's amazing is that LBJ spent years trying to convince the public that it was Oswald alone, and then after he leaves office he does this interview admitting that it may have been others! So LBJ admits he was lying to the public when he insisted for years he had no doubts it was Oswald alone.
Johnson says the Warren Commission "had only one objective and that was the truth"
"The truth"? The Warren Commission's objective was to investigate a murder and tell us who committed the crime. Inherent in that is certainly 'the truth" but this lying bastard KNOWS the sole objective was to whitewash what really occurred that day, so he invokes the word "truth" knowing the diametric OPPOSITE was the case.
Oh..and LBJ henchman Malcolm Wallace's fingerprints were found at the JFK crime scene.
@1963coupdetat True. Very good points. As more & more books are written on LBJ's involvement in the JFK assassination (and there are already some out now), transcripts like this will be closely analyzed with what we already know. His behavior here is VERY suspicious. And of course, when he says the Warren Commission members were the best group of men possible he is full of baloney. The presence of Allen Dulles (who was fired by JFK & hated him) is just one example.
@1963coupdetat You forgot to mention LBJ yapping at how "bipartisan" his Warren Commission was. As if it mattered how many Republicans or Democrats were represented on a panel investigating the violent death of the POTUS. His selections were only intended to "legitimize" a phony "investigation" with a predetermined outcome. LBJ is heard on tape cajoling Sen. Russell to be "my man" on the Warren Commission, and said "all you (Russell) have to do is evaluate a Hoover report he's already made!"
@rdstern1 True. The triers of fact have to be unbiased and not prejudiced towards the victim or any aspect of the case- this is a basic principle of law. It is why judges have to recuse themselves in some cases, and why jury selection must be fair. You don't put people on it that hated the victim or were fired by him (eg. Allen Dulles) or allow it to be controlled by other people who didn't like the victim (eg. Hoover & LBJ).
Looking down and to the left is usually a sign that a person is trying to deceive. This is not true for everyone.
Another sign of lying is when talking a person will close his eyes momentarily, for a little longer than an ordinary blink. (This behavior can also be caused by merely being a little uncomfortable, such as when addressing a group.)
When a person is looking up and to the right he is usually trying search his memory for information.
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
Oh yeah, the E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession. Man the gag is on you guys. His body language with the hose under his nose tells me that this old extortionist knew that this was his last shot at some publicity. One of Garrison's 3 tramps tells all before he checks out. His only big event was when he got to the pearly gates and couldn't pay off Saint Peter. Dorothy had already got there with his money. The Kennedy brothers died by the sword that they lived by. Not by conspiracy. Just fate.
Hey, grantbonfart: It looks to me like the old guy had gas, and maybe he was uncomfortable, and trying to be polite. You wanna be a subject ? Send me your picture, without the Nazi uniform and I'll tell you what I see.
Kennedy murdered Diem. Can you tell it by looking at him ? How many more can you super sluthes convict by looking at them ? This is great. Now we can just say fu*k the justice system and hire a few of you ba*tards to look at em. Maybe we should bring the fu*king Gestapo back and let em measure the heads. I despise LBJ, but this is a joke. Well let me tell you this and ya'll stuff it down your Crapper. Oswald was Guilty. I can tell it by lookin at the scrawney bast*rd. And you are Facists.
@BlueWolfe38 Kennedy did not murder Diem. Do you really think you are going to pass that off? The CIA & the Pentagon had Diem murdered - 3 weeks before they had Kennedy murdered. And did you read what was written below? Many people, including JFK's own secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, suspected LBJ of being behind the JFK murder.
@TheLensSolution By his very own admission after the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy was the executive officer of the Government. Dulles was gone, and Kennedy and McNamara were tighter than two queers on a hayride. You cannot possibly believe that the murder of Diem went unsanctioned by Kennedy. JFK, the great martyr, was a ruthless political son-of-a-bitch, with deservedly many enemies. But, "in the final analysis", all it took was one disenchanted little Marxist with a mail order rifle.
@BlueWolfe38 You're not going to have much credibility if you keep on spinning for the Warren Commission - the large majority of people don't believe it. JFK did not have Diem killed, and there are plenty of books that deal with this subject. It was the pro-war CIA & Pentagon who were behind it. Oswald was a not a Communist, he did not shoot Kennedy etc. etc. You know all this. He couldn't even make those shots if he wanted to.
@TheLensSolution I have never given a rat's ass about what the large majority of the people think. People stood in line to buy tickets for the Titanic. Oswald was a Marxist, I am an average shot with a Carcano. I could have done the shooting myself, and so could Oswald.
@BlueWolfe38 Please post your own video re-enactment showing you on a 6th floor building firing 3 or 4 shots, at a moving car down the street, and successfully hitting the head of a mannequin inside. If you lone nutters are going to talk the talk, it's time you walk the walk.
@TheLensSolution There were only 3 shots. And if you Conspiracy Folks are going to walk your walk, then please post a reference to any solid evidence that you have: Shooter(s), weapon, spent casings, ballistics, medical or pathological evidence, films, photos, crystal ball, tarot cards, fortune cookie(s), etc. Don't relate to me what someone thought they saw or heard, footprints and cigarette butts behind the fence, or blobs and outlines in the pyracanthia bushes, Just one "shred" of evidence.
@BlueWolfe38 And at least one other gunman that fired the "kill shot" because Oswald could not possibly have made that one from the angle he was allegedly at.
@railroadwino1 There is no evidence of multiple shooters. Evidence is the key word here. Eyewitness testimony requires evidence to substantiate itself. There was no evidence collected from the knoll. The lack of evidence in the car resists multiple shooters. This is not science, in as much as it is common sense. If you approach this case from the standpoint that there had to be a conspiracy, you will be frustrated, as most conspiracy theorists are after 48 years with no evidence.
@BlueWolfe38 The Warren Commission itself contains all sorts of evidence of multiple shooters, as well as eyewitnesses who say they saw them. Why don't you prove that it was a lone gunman?
@TheLensSolution It would be much easier for you to "prove" that it was not. You certainly do not have a gun, a clarified witness, or ballistics in the car or in the body of the President or Governor Connelly. This is the part that you do not seem to grasp as a lawyer. I am sure that you are a very good one. But we just do not have the evidence of anyone past Oswald. I wish that there was. Can you produce it, other than just what you think of believe? I can't either. So it is common sense.
@TheLensSolution Correct. Conspiracy-fact advocates' major issue with the WCR is the fallacious CONCLUSION of a "lone, deluded gunman" in spite of contradictory evidence contained within, e.g. Clint Hill eyewitness testimony that the REAR of JFK's head was missing. Some ppl don't know that witness accounts ARE considered evidence, just like trace evidence, in a court of law. Also, American jurisprudence mandates that the ACCUSED be proven guilty beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Plenty of RD w/Oswald.
@TheLensSolution Another reason the Warren Commission hasn't stood the test of time is the wholly implausible motive they attributed to Oswald. To wit: "He sought for himself a place in history- a role as the 'Great Man' who would be recognized as having been in advance of his times."
So..Oswald supposedly killed the leader of the Free World to achieve his 'place in history', yet he DENIED responsibility for the act that would have put him in that place?
@rdstern1 Correct. Nothing the WC says is logical, and that includes their pathetic attempt to attribute a motive to Oswald. There is no evidence he was a Communist or that he wanted to kill JFK, but there is lots of evidence that he was working for the CIA & FBI and that they planted him there. He said he was innocent & he was killed shortly after - those are also points in his favor.
The MLK and JFK assassinations are linked - directly.
After the car driven by the "alleged" killer of MLK was located, a piece of paper with the name and a phone number was found in it. The young FBI agent, Donald Wilson, did not give it to his supervisor. The agent checked it out.
The phone number was tracked to a building on Commerce St. in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club was previously operated in 1963 by Jack Ruby.
LBJ body language! "In a close investigation, authorities rely closely on the body movements displayed in the interrogation room. They review the tapes and watch for any hints. A shift in weight before a suspect responds to a question buys him more seconds to think about what he or she is going to say."
Google "Evelyn Lincoln list of suspects". Evelyn Lincoln was JFK's secretary for his whole political career (from when he started in the Senate in 53 to when he was killed in 63). On her way home from Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, she wrote a list of suspects of who she thought killed him, and LBJ was at the top. Last year her list of suspects was released for the first time - it is in her own handwriting.
The MLK and JFK assassinations are linked - directly.
After the car driven by the "alleged" killer of MLK was located, a piece of paper with the name and a phone number was found in it. The young FBI agent, Donald Wilson, did not give it to his supervisor. The agent checked it out.
The phone number was tracked to a building on Commerce St. in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club was previously operated in 1963 by Jack Ruby.
You can tell he is guilty just by looking at his body language! And of course, there are people who have PHD's in non-verbal communication who can also do more analysis on this in the future. Jack Ruby himself identified LBJ as being behind the JFK assassination, and now we know that Lyndon Johnson was Evelyn Lincoln's #1 suspect too. Lincoln was JFK"s long-term personal secretary and confidante and her list of suspects is now online, with LBJ at the top!
@Gtrplyr1 James Files(self admitted shooter), David Ferrie(hitman who was murdered 2 hours before he was supposed to testify.) I think at least 2 more shooters.
@waspmeister Files is another CIA potted plant. They tried pushing him on the public many years ago. Didn't work. They they tried again a few years ago with the help of Jim Marrs. It worked on some people - like you. The "found" and aged bullet shell with a bite on it and "creative" telephone records BS is probably the joke that sold you. Files was going to be executed for his killing crimes and struck a deal.
Before Files, they tried pushing Roscoe White as the assassin.
@barmtraiI Well I have never heard of any telephone records, but since you know so much smartass, why don't you tell us who did it, IF you know so much. But you can't cuz you don't. An admission is an admission. I never said he was the only one, did I? NO.
".... NBC retained me as a consultant for their planned story on Files. .... established from telephone records Files was in Chicago, not Dallas, on November 22, 1963. We then placed a call to Files .... . He said he had a twin brother, who no one knew about, and whom he met shortly before November 22, and who he murdered after November 22. His wife, however, said there was no twin .... My view ... is that Files invented the story for the money ...".
Johnson was a master manipulator. He wanted Kennedy out of the way so he could become president. He gave the order and Hunt and others carried it out. Don't take my word for it. E. Howard Hunt gave a deathbed confession concerning this.
@alspry I saw the Hunt confession. Another thing, is that Hunt is on video talking about the Diem assassination. Diem was president of S. Vietnam. Diem was assassinated on 1 Nov 63, 21 days before JFK.
On the video Hunt openly tells that the CIA did "fabricate" evidence that JFK ordered the murder of Diem.
Merriam-Webster dictionary - Fabricate: invent, create - 1a: accused of fabricating evidence).to make up for the purpose of deception (
Kennedy went up against the industrial war complex. He was trying to avoid Vietnam and follow the rules of engagement according to the constitution. He also went up against the central banking system by printing debt free money through Ex. Order 11110 called the United States notes backed by silver instead of federal reserve notes backed by nothing. This would have destroyed them. Rothschild himself stated - give me control of a nations money and I care not what their laws are. Makes me wonder.
I love this video because it is complete true that LBJ was a liar. I am an expert on this topic...more so than anyone else, and I can tell you that my research has proven LBJ to be a complete liar and that he was behind the Kennedy assassination 100%. Anyone trying to claim otherwise is a fraud and most likely a communist that hates America and all it's value. They also do not believe in God.
"... they found some literature, I understand, some literature dealing with Free Cuba Movement. Following this--and so I looked up and Jack Ruby is in the' audience and he said, no, it is the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Well, he corrected me,... why someone in the audience would speak up and answer a question".
Fair Play for Cuba Committee was done ONLY during Oswald's time in New Orleans. Therefore, Ruby knew him from there.
@10Faenor That is not what happened. There is a video of this particular incident, which shows all and sundry correcting Wade. Furthermore: it isn't even seen if Ruby was part of the 'chorus' correcting Wade. Lastly: The Fair Play for Cuba Committee was not 'unknown'; it had its main branch in New York.
@TennesseeAsshole you already said "if" Ruby was correcting Wade. Ruby does not have be on a video correcting Wade. Wade gave the testimony about Ruby. And NY is irrelevant.
Asshole - you already know Ruby was in NO. If you want to look up various web sites again, go for it.
@TennesseeAsshole - all you provided was the CIA's and Hoover's "created" evidence. You have no hard evidence of Oswald doing anything. There was never any Oswald hand print. Oswald never owned any rifle or pistol. The only proof you have is that you are a lying asshole.
@Drummer1981 Oh I take pride in spending my leisure moments debunking anti-LBJ garbage. When one has actually studied the person and his politics, you get that 'flow'. How many books on LBJ have you read? You just barge in here talking about 'truth' when you obviously haven't read a single volume on the man.
OSWALD and Others that could have been involved... Hmmm Why should any american accept the single bullet theory after hearing this from the president of the USA.
"The Kennedy's will never embarras me again! That's not a threat - that's a promise!" Gee, Lyin' Butthead Johnson! If I could travel in time, I'd come for ya!
@elfving73 My wake up call consisted of finding out Oliver Stone's 'JFK' and pretty much every conspiracy theory out there had zero basis in acual fact. Sure, it was sobering, since it is far more consoling to believe a huge sinister conspiracy took the life of JFK than a lone nut. But that's the way it is.
I begun with reading about the Kennedys and their politics, LBJ, L Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchinson, Carlos Mosello, "Mac" Wallace, LHO, and many more, and boy - there's NO NEED to read about different cospiracies theories - I you study them all, everything points in ONE DIRECTION.
@elfving73 Oh yes, the 'Hoover-Nixon-LBJ' party at Murchison's... Here's my wake up call to you: This 'party' is the brainchild of Madeline Brown, who came up with it decades after the fact. Wake up call no. 1: Clint Murchison a) did not own a house in Dallas in November 1963 and b) wasn't even in Dallas on Nov. 21 or Nov. 22 1963, as he was in his Glad Oaks ranch home in Palestine, Texas.
@elfving73 Wake up call no. 2: Jack Valenti testified that LBJ spent the entire night with him at the Texas Hotel in Fort Worth. Wake up call no. 3: Hoover was in Washington D.C. on both Nov. 21 and Nov. 22. Wake up call no. 4: It's Carlos Marcello. Wake up call no. 5: LBJ was probably more progressive and liberal than Kennedy - but one only finds this out when one actually studies Johnson's political ideology.
Ok! I'm not worse than I can admit that's perhaps me who needs a wakeup call. You've obviosly done your homework. I begun "studying" the assassination of JFK only a few weeks ago. Simply because I saw a vignette on Discovery about a program about the assassination. "The Secret Service guys speak out for the first time since the assassination". I found it interesting and though that I should read a little before I saw the program, so I could follow a little closer....
So, these last weeks, I've been absorbed by the theme. Been spending hours after hours every night, reading, looking at clips etc. I've been through all the "It was/it was not LHO", "It was not a conspiracy", "It WAS a consperacy". But I wasn't til I begun reading about the persons claimed to have been involved that I saw a pattern that in the end points in the same direction. I may still have loads of things wrong, but I still think these guys was involved somehow.
I don't have a personal interest to conclude a specific "truth". I'm just very curious, it's an intriguing story, and I would like to know, as many others I guess, what really happen. If you think I'm on the wrong track, please point me in the direction you believe one have to stroll to get closer to the truth. I'm honestly interested, and even if I didn't make it come across, I am open-minded.
@elfving73 Well, to me, the change occurred after watching 'Beyond Conspiracy' and reading Larry Sturdivan's 'JFK Myths. A Scientific Investigation into the Kennedy Assassination." I started out, in 1987, as a conspiracy theorist. But eventually, the forensic evidence, along with physics, made me a Lone Nutter.
@elfving73 start with the mcadms site online that deals with the assasination. Then read bugliosi's book. if you do that and still don't come to the conclusion that Oswald did it alone, then you believe in a home somewhere.
lets see eisenhower sent the first 3000 advisor to vietnam, kennedy had 16000 advisors training south vietnamese,,johnson took over and by 1966 usa had 385,000 army and marine in vietnam with 70,000 navy personel offshore..is that an increase ..duh ...the vietnam war was the one i was drafted and many of my friends and family served in ,TennesseOwn MY Bones your the one thats doesnt know squat...
@mtzlypk Could you please point out to me where I have said Johnson did NOT escalate the Vietnam War? Please read again: I am denying the bogus claim that Johnson a) was inherently gung ho for war in Vietnam - advising both Eisenhower and Kennedy against going to Asia - and b) that LBJ was PART OF A CONSPIRACY to kill JFK so that he COULD escalate the war. It is this disgusting claim that Johnson was somehow involved in the murder of JFK that pisses me off, as it has NO basis in fact.
and those involved in elliminating Castro with Cuban `exciles`, CIA assassins and the the toxic cocktail of all mentioned along with mob involvment who lost a lot of `business` in Cuba, the playground of the rich under the Batista regime. Something happened that resulted in their guns turning on Kennedy which in turn meant it had to be covered up by the many who knew of this toxic cocktail.Look at the Cuba issue alone and it is, in my view, motive enough for that very infamous murder in 1963.
I`m not sure LBJ was as guilty or as implicit in urging for Kennedy`s murder as is suggested. To understand the kennedy assassination/murder, or any murder you need to understand the motive and fotr that you need to understand his presdiency and the times he governed in. Who hated kennedy with a passion? Those who felt let donw by his `inaction` on Cuba, Bay of Pigs, the missile crisis and the intact nature of Castro Government. That is where the nature of the motive lays for me,
As diabolical and murderous a bastard as he was, LBJ was still (barely) a human being. Here he expresses human frailty. This clip should be a case study in body language.. uncomfortable posture, awkward pauses, sporadic eye contact (esp. when saying "or..others"). Add this video to his well-known endemic ruthless nature, his henchman Malcolm Wallace's fingerprints in the Dal-Tex Bldg, and self-incriminating dialogue with Hoover, and it becomes clear this guy was up to his ears in the conspiracy.
@jmurphy778 Malcolm Wallace? You're kidding me, right? Will you conspiracists look beyond discredited bs 'documentaries' and Oliver Stone movies, please?
@Drummer1981 Uhm no. He is not. He is damn wrong. Do the research. Find out all about Madeline Brown and her bogus testimony. Start off with the fact that Clint Murchison did not even own a home in Dallas in Nov 1963 and was at his Glad Oaks ranch in Palestine, Texas on Nov 22.
Johnson's facial expressions and body language in this interview suggest a man who is tired of carrying the weight of an enormous lie, one that has tormented the shit out of him.
@dogterd Will you people ACTUALLY DO SOME RESEARCH? LBJ was tormented allright, tormented by the notion that there was indeed a communist-inspired conspiracy behind the JFK assassination. THAT is why he was tormented. Well, that, and having been saddled with a war he did not want nor ever sought.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Why do you troll all the Kennedy vids? NONSTOP. This would show that you have an agenda, one that is clear because your existence is one of pushing the 'lone nut' theory without any waivering to all the evidence that points to another conclusion. That sir, disqualifies you as a source of truth. You cannot be taken seriously because you are either obviously insane or you are paid to carry out this mission of disinfo. Either way, you stink.
@blite13 This is pretty rich... I refuse to accept the bonanza of conspiracy theory bullshit that has clouded this case, and, therefore, I am either insane or (chuckle) a paid bagman. Could you please read that bit for yourself again: I disagree with the conspiracy theories, as none have any basis in fact, so therefore, I am on a 'paid mission' by The Man to cover up 'the truth'?
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Let me guess, people being paid to troll certain vids to spew propaganda for the Gov and Corporations could never happen, right? I mean, the Gov would never waste time and money on having paid goofs with hundreds of alias accounts swarming certain vids to discredit and deflect the truth, nahhh, could never happen, right? Just like police sending provocateurs into protests, even sporting event crowds to incite riot behavior, could never happen, right?
@blite13 I'm a social-democrat actually. That is why I dig LBJ's Great Society. You'd have known LBJ was fighting ultra-capitalism and the oppression of the poor, sick and elderly if you had bothered to actually study the man and his ideas.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones I know LBJ was just a saint who never wanted to harm a flea, and Bill Clinton was just so sweet. All those people he helped in WhiteWater and Mena Arkansas, shame all those people who had to die because they knew too much. Just as long as Bill could have his blow and his bitches and Hiliary could have her muffpie, it was all good, right?
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Oh, a socialist democrat...why don't you just say communist? So you love that JFK was done in the manner he was, ahhh, starting to make sense.
@blite13 Also, I don't 'love' JFK being 'done' in that matter. JFK, along with people like LBJ, Robert Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey and Ralph Yarborough were true social democrats who would have prevented America - and the West in general - from spiraling into this cesspool of corporatism and dog-eat-dog capitalism spearheaded by Ronald Reagan.
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Yeah right.....DREAM ON. LBJ took the Gov straight into what you say he prevented, you are a poser, not worth anyone's time really.What do you care anyways? "you are just a dutchman".
No matter what any commission says, there was someone behind the knoll who fired the fatal shot that blasted the rear right side of the skull off JFK's head & it was no amateur either. This was a trained marksman who knew exactly what he was doing. Was LBJ involved? Would he take the risk of getting hit by a bullet that may have missed? We know he took over once JFK was gone but I'm skeptical about LBJ being involved. He would have been fried immediately. No one is that powerful.
714AD 5 days ago
The JFK-Administration had a lot of excellent members, like Theodore Sorensen, Bobby Kennedy, Bob McNamara and Cyrus Vance.
Unfortunately, there were a number of extremely poor people - advisers, military officers and other executives - who darkened the future of beauty and hope. These include Curtis Le May, Lyndon B Johnson and Allen Dulles (Gris Bay's most prominent supporters). I need hardly add that JFK should have kicked the JE Hoover on his first day as president, this scum!
Ulf6D 1 week ago
How much did Director J Edgar Hoover knew about the events of November 22, 1963? I don´t mean that the Bureau "did it" but what I say is did Hoover make any cover-ups regarding the investigation about the assassination?
I believe JFK was shot (the fatal third shot) from right in front of him (someone at the Grassy Knoll, or behind towards Stemmons Hway). I don´t think a man like Oswald did it...alone. He - Oswald - was part of a conspiracy (and might not have known it at all)
Ulf6D 1 week ago
He was about to name a few others when he caught himself and just said, "others who could have been involved."
adamszman 1 week ago
Oswald & others.. The Grassy Knoll others?
714AD 2 weeks ago
@714AD Lee Bowers who worked in the railroad tower saw two men a good half hour or more standing behind the stockade fence. The plotters had to have a gunman up close, the knoll, so as to make surte that JFK did not survive the shooting. Because then JFK would have had a REAL investigation and the culprits would have been caught and hung. LBJ, who was probably in on it, along with Hoover, supressed all evidence to make sure the lone nut assassin was the official report.
Humes53 5 days ago
@Humes53 Read what LBJ's mistress Madeleine Brown has to say about a meeting at the home of Cowboy owner Clint Murchison the night before the assassination. I'd believe her before I believed Lyin Lyndon.
Humes53 5 days ago
If Oswald had any role it was to thwart the assassination. How is it that a description of Oswald goes out within 30 minutes? A faction of the CIA (David Atlle Phillips, Gen. Lansdale and others) hired mob shooters and LBJ and Hoover covered up any evidence. Bannister, Clay Shaw, Ferrie and others cooperated, Trafficante. Warren Commision all baloney. Had to have a shooter close up on the knoll to make sure 100% that JFK did not survive the attack or JFK would have had an investigation
Humes53 2 weeks ago
@Humes53 That's a real nasty accusation made about LBJ there.. I really doubt he had anything to do with any cover up.
714AD 2 weeks ago
@Humes53 You're right about the Knoll though. A blind man could see something else was lurking out there and the fatal shot was clearly fired from the knoll. With all the confusion whoever it was quietly slipped away and remember, there was nothing like today's video cameras to monitor the activity in the streets etc. because if there had been at the time we would have known for sure exactly what happened & could have gone further than speculation. .
714AD 2 weeks ago
Sure sure no one can ever find out the truth. JFK wanted Tesla free energy ships and everyone else wanted rockets so LBJ got a Space Center and Nixon and Disney sent men to the Moon. Tesla said Earth provides 36" of lead protection. You figure out where the astronauts went. 50X the speed of light particle energy that Tesla discovered means free energy yet liars in science locked up all up Tesla's work except they fly his ship to spite up.
teslaandlyne 3 weeks ago
@teslaandlyne liars in science locked up all of Tesla's work except they fly his ship to spite us.
teslaandlyne 3 weeks ago
It was people who wanted war that Killed JFK
mity15 3 weeks ago
What about these people interviewed at the time ? watch?v=uB_68m6yDHY&feature=related
Its funny how people still believe the 'official line' when in fact some ex-members of the WC itself later denounced its findings themselves. These are the people who fed you the lies in the first place !! And yet, people still believe in the magic bullet-lone gunman theory. Er....dumb or what ?
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ColdIndian1 4 weeks ago
To metros2: My educated opinion better be MIGHTY SPECIAL to get your attention. Like you, I have read, studied, and considered every OPINION under the sun re: this planned tragedy. If you really want to know, you've got to look somewhere else, like right under your nose. Trust me.............I figured it out. However, the delivery of this punchline has to be perfect.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
@kevinjomlor What the hell are you talking about?
metros2 1 month ago
@metros2 What the hell am I talking about? The motive for killing JFK. THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'll give you a hint. The reason no one could figure it out was because the motive was (kind of) hidden for 10 years. I said (kind of). The motive is now clear and it was done RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR NOSES.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
There was NEVER a question of whether or not Oswald pulled the trigger. He had the gun mail ordered to him. It was preowned and had/had a semi-automatic clip attached. The smoke screen question revolved mostly around if he acted alone; vis-s-vis, grassy knoll figure, multiple echos in dealy plaza, the mob, etc, etc. In my educated opinion, all these questions throw us off of thinking about the motive. The motive has been revealed!!
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
@kevinjomlor
Conspiracy nuts are the first to say the system is all a big front, yet they unwittingly believe in the system to their core. They can't accept a loser like Oswald succeeded in killing a President. They can't accept Ruby killed Oswald in a room full of Police.
There has to be an incredible reason behind it all, because Police don't screw up & Presidents can only be killed by powerful men.
Mundane fact: Presidents are human & they die. Police screw up. End of story.
matooli 1 month ago
@matooli Everything you said in your reply was right on BUT it's not the "End of story", as you put it. It was really only the very beginning of it for us IF you only knew the motive. RSVP
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
@matooli Boy life's simple for this airhead. So I'm supposed to believe that Police USUALLY screw up and people who are medium shots out perform FBI sharp shooters ROUTINELY?? Is that the way you think? did you see the z film? Does it LOOK like the shot came from the rear or the front? Oh wait I forgot the "optical illusion" thing. That's right we can't accept optical illusions either. I think you need to take a class in logic would probably be good for you.
PabloPena108 4 weeks ago
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Zapruder film: Kennedy, sitting rigid in back brace, jerks FORWARD & DOWN, then back. Large shot blasts out the FRONT SIDE of JFK's head: ie- EXIT wound. ie-shot from BEHIND. Little girl runs down street, looks BEHIND at shots. ie- gunshots come from BEHIND. Witnesses who actually see shooter at book depository window. Real question: why are you willing to accept any theory about the assassination besides Oswald being guilty? A sense of empowerment?
matooli 4 weeks ago
@matooli You mention a little girl looks BEHIND at shots how about the dozens of witnesses you can clearly see charging up the grassy knoll after the assassination?? Hello? And as far as Oswald I have no idea whether he as innocent or guilty but the physics indicate a frontal head shot so unless he was somewhere ar ound the knoll, he didn't take the final shot. Also the WC puts him eating lunch at around 12:10-12:15 the time Kennedy was scheduled to be in dealey plaza according to newspapers
PabloPena108 4 weeks ago
@kevinjomlor "The motive has been revealed!!"
Really? What motive was that? You mean the one in the "official" Warren Report that told us Oswald's motive was to "seek for himself a place in history- a role as the 'Great Man' "?
Interesting, isn't it?...and at the very moment when Oswald had the chance to get to that 'place in history' by taking credit for demising the leader of the Free World, he denies the deed & calls himself a patsy? What's your "educated opinion" on THAT?
metros2 1 month ago
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Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
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Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
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Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out whwn it was done. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
Oswald definitely did it AND he was the ONLY GUNMAN. That does NOT MEAN he acted alone. He just never realized they were going to take HIM out. And the man who took HIM out (Jack Rubinstien)was never aware of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK until after the fact. Then, he was given instructions. Even so, that does nothing to establish motive.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
@kevinjomlor Oswald was definitely innocent. He did nothing.
DPD Chief Jesse Curry before his death: "We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building with a gun in his hand."
10Faenor 1 month ago
Don't be stupid about this. The Warren Commission was never established to determine a possible motive but to examine the crime scene details only....... and they did a superb job. It's the Kennedy assasination, not the second coming. The MOTIVE has FINALLY been established.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
When people are told what the motive was (in my humble opinion), every one of them is stopped in their tracks......................because it makes too much sense. It took a long , long time to figure it out, finally the search is done. Mysterious huh?
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
The motive is all we lack. Trust me, it was MUCH bigger than LBJ. After all these years, the motive is NOW KNOWN and it makes too much sense.
kevinjomlor 1 month ago
A fucking murderer, plain and simple!
blackmetalurgist 1 month ago
Sure the Warren Commissions' objective was the truth,......but only to bury it.
waspmeister 1 month ago
His ear is so big.
mdshott1 1 month ago
A lame deflection on LBJ's part in this video, just like his orchestration of the Warren Commission. LBJ was a master manipulator and with J. Edgar Hoover obfuscated the real circumstances surrounding JFK's murder. LBJ was a puppet of Big Business and the Military Industrial complex, and was handsomely rewarded for his efforts. I don't believe that the real truth will ever come out as the hidden powers behind JFK's murder are still very much in power today.
sauroid1 1 month ago
It's interesting just how many men of power are utter scumbags LBJ, Nixon, Hoover, Bush
Spindry96 1 month ago
wow! you can tell he's 100% guilty...that was a creepy video
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deadadelta 1 month ago
He is very nervous.
MasterBlasterRGR 1 month ago
JFK didn't want him as VP actually, and didn't need him to win Texas. That's the spin that LBJ's people put out. Other books and documentaries (you can find some of them on YouTube) have revealed that Johnson forced himself into JFK's ticket by using J. Edgar Hoover's blackmail on JFK to make himself VP. Kennedy wanted a different running mate.
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
LBJ was a self interest liar.
He never told the truth about anything.
The Kennedy's hated him.
JFK had to have him as VP because he needed Texas to win the election.
Johnson will always be remembered as a liar, womanizer, idiot, power hungry man and on and on.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 1 month ago
Just exactly "WHO" was he referring to at the end where he says "... Oswald and others that may have been involved" ??? What did HE know about the "others"? As if he didn't know EXACTLY what the hell went on that dreadful day in Dallas. I bet he'd have been a real top notch speaker with todays teleprompters. Liar Liar Pants On FIre... Scuzbucket...Sumbeeotch.
decendant1776 1 month ago
What's amazing is that LBJ spent years trying to convince the public that it was Oswald alone, and then after he leaves office he does this interview admitting that it may have been others! So LBJ admits he was lying to the public when he insisted for years he had no doubts it was Oswald alone.
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
When Johnson, at the end, says, "others," that is *so* creepy.
bogglerful 1 month ago 3
Too bad Walter Cronkite didn't have LBJ hooked up to a polygraph and then asked him: "Did you have anything at all to do with the assassination?"
amosburke 1 month ago
look he can hardly breath,he is so nervous
LordBen42 1 month ago 2
Heh.. notice how he say's "Oswald or others"
Spindry96 1 month ago 4
Johnson says the Warren Commission "had only one objective and that was the truth"
"The truth"? The Warren Commission's objective was to investigate a murder and tell us who committed the crime. Inherent in that is certainly 'the truth" but this lying bastard KNOWS the sole objective was to whitewash what really occurred that day, so he invokes the word "truth" knowing the diametric OPPOSITE was the case.
Oh..and LBJ henchman Malcolm Wallace's fingerprints were found at the JFK crime scene.
1963coupdetat 1 month ago 3
@1963coupdetat True. Very good points. As more & more books are written on LBJ's involvement in the JFK assassination (and there are already some out now), transcripts like this will be closely analyzed with what we already know. His behavior here is VERY suspicious. And of course, when he says the Warren Commission members were the best group of men possible he is full of baloney. The presence of Allen Dulles (who was fired by JFK & hated him) is just one example.
TheLensSolution 1 month ago 3
@1963coupdetat You forgot to mention LBJ yapping at how "bipartisan" his Warren Commission was. As if it mattered how many Republicans or Democrats were represented on a panel investigating the violent death of the POTUS. His selections were only intended to "legitimize" a phony "investigation" with a predetermined outcome. LBJ is heard on tape cajoling Sen. Russell to be "my man" on the Warren Commission, and said "all you (Russell) have to do is evaluate a Hoover report he's already made!"
rdstern1 1 month ago 3
@rdstern1 True. The triers of fact have to be unbiased and not prejudiced towards the victim or any aspect of the case- this is a basic principle of law. It is why judges have to recuse themselves in some cases, and why jury selection must be fair. You don't put people on it that hated the victim or were fired by him (eg. Allen Dulles) or allow it to be controlled by other people who didn't like the victim (eg. Hoover & LBJ).
TheLensSolution 1 month ago 6
Beast! Now you know how evil people have taken over the U.S. Federal government!
studiosinger 2 months ago
Straight from the psychopath's conspiring murderer's mouth.
studiosinger 2 months ago
Looking down and to the left is usually a sign that a person is trying to deceive. This is not true for everyone.
Another sign of lying is when talking a person will close his eyes momentarily, for a little longer than an ordinary blink. (This behavior can also be caused by merely being a little uncomfortable, such as when addressing a group.)
When a person is looking up and to the right he is usually trying search his memory for information.
butdoyou1970 2 months ago
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"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
AidanDonnelly 2 months ago
Oh yeah, the E. Howard Hunt deathbed confession. Man the gag is on you guys. His body language with the hose under his nose tells me that this old extortionist knew that this was his last shot at some publicity. One of Garrison's 3 tramps tells all before he checks out. His only big event was when he got to the pearly gates and couldn't pay off Saint Peter. Dorothy had already got there with his money. The Kennedy brothers died by the sword that they lived by. Not by conspiracy. Just fate.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Hey, grantbonfart: It looks to me like the old guy had gas, and maybe he was uncomfortable, and trying to be polite. You wanna be a subject ? Send me your picture, without the Nazi uniform and I'll tell you what I see.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Kennedy murdered Diem. Can you tell it by looking at him ? How many more can you super sluthes convict by looking at them ? This is great. Now we can just say fu*k the justice system and hire a few of you ba*tards to look at em. Maybe we should bring the fu*king Gestapo back and let em measure the heads. I despise LBJ, but this is a joke. Well let me tell you this and ya'll stuff it down your Crapper. Oswald was Guilty. I can tell it by lookin at the scrawney bast*rd. And you are Facists.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 Kennedy did not murder Diem. Do you really think you are going to pass that off? The CIA & the Pentagon had Diem murdered - 3 weeks before they had Kennedy murdered. And did you read what was written below? Many people, including JFK's own secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, suspected LBJ of being behind the JFK murder.
TheLensSolution 2 months ago
@TheLensSolution By his very own admission after the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy was the executive officer of the Government. Dulles was gone, and Kennedy and McNamara were tighter than two queers on a hayride. You cannot possibly believe that the murder of Diem went unsanctioned by Kennedy. JFK, the great martyr, was a ruthless political son-of-a-bitch, with deservedly many enemies. But, "in the final analysis", all it took was one disenchanted little Marxist with a mail order rifle.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 You're not going to have much credibility if you keep on spinning for the Warren Commission - the large majority of people don't believe it. JFK did not have Diem killed, and there are plenty of books that deal with this subject. It was the pro-war CIA & Pentagon who were behind it. Oswald was a not a Communist, he did not shoot Kennedy etc. etc. You know all this. He couldn't even make those shots if he wanted to.
TheLensSolution 2 months ago
@TheLensSolution I have never given a rat's ass about what the large majority of the people think. People stood in line to buy tickets for the Titanic. Oswald was a Marxist, I am an average shot with a Carcano. I could have done the shooting myself, and so could Oswald.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 Please post your own video re-enactment showing you on a 6th floor building firing 3 or 4 shots, at a moving car down the street, and successfully hitting the head of a mannequin inside. If you lone nutters are going to talk the talk, it's time you walk the walk.
TheLensSolution 2 months ago
@TheLensSolution There were only 3 shots. And if you Conspiracy Folks are going to walk your walk, then please post a reference to any solid evidence that you have: Shooter(s), weapon, spent casings, ballistics, medical or pathological evidence, films, photos, crystal ball, tarot cards, fortune cookie(s), etc. Don't relate to me what someone thought they saw or heard, footprints and cigarette butts behind the fence, or blobs and outlines in the pyracanthia bushes, Just one "shred" of evidence.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 And at least one other gunman that fired the "kill shot" because Oswald could not possibly have made that one from the angle he was allegedly at.
Mozart1220 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 So one persons guilt = everyone elses innocence?
railroadwino1 2 months ago
@railroadwino1 There is no evidence of multiple shooters. Evidence is the key word here. Eyewitness testimony requires evidence to substantiate itself. There was no evidence collected from the knoll. The lack of evidence in the car resists multiple shooters. This is not science, in as much as it is common sense. If you approach this case from the standpoint that there had to be a conspiracy, you will be frustrated, as most conspiracy theorists are after 48 years with no evidence.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 The Warren Commission itself contains all sorts of evidence of multiple shooters, as well as eyewitnesses who say they saw them. Why don't you prove that it was a lone gunman?
TheLensSolution 2 months ago 2
@TheLensSolution It would be much easier for you to "prove" that it was not. You certainly do not have a gun, a clarified witness, or ballistics in the car or in the body of the President or Governor Connelly. This is the part that you do not seem to grasp as a lawyer. I am sure that you are a very good one. But we just do not have the evidence of anyone past Oswald. I wish that there was. Can you produce it, other than just what you think of believe? I can't either. So it is common sense.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@TheLensSolution Correct. Conspiracy-fact advocates' major issue with the WCR is the fallacious CONCLUSION of a "lone, deluded gunman" in spite of contradictory evidence contained within, e.g. Clint Hill eyewitness testimony that the REAR of JFK's head was missing. Some ppl don't know that witness accounts ARE considered evidence, just like trace evidence, in a court of law. Also, American jurisprudence mandates that the ACCUSED be proven guilty beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Plenty of RD w/Oswald.
rdstern1 1 month ago 2
@TheLensSolution Another reason the Warren Commission hasn't stood the test of time is the wholly implausible motive they attributed to Oswald. To wit: "He sought for himself a place in history- a role as the 'Great Man' who would be recognized as having been in advance of his times."
So..Oswald supposedly killed the leader of the Free World to achieve his 'place in history', yet he DENIED responsibility for the act that would have put him in that place?
Totally incongruous w/common sense.
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@rdstern1 Correct. Nothing the WC says is logical, and that includes their pathetic attempt to attribute a motive to Oswald. There is no evidence he was a Communist or that he wanted to kill JFK, but there is lots of evidence that he was working for the CIA & FBI and that they planted him there. He said he was innocent & he was killed shortly after - those are also points in his favor.
TheLensSolution 1 month ago
guilty as hell!! he knew...
ferryvanextel 2 months ago
"Oswald. er. uh. others ..." Interesting. Never seen this footage.
culturecrusherblog 2 months ago
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The MLK and JFK assassinations are linked - directly.
After the car driven by the "alleged" killer of MLK was located, a piece of paper with the name and a phone number was found in it. The young FBI agent, Donald Wilson, did not give it to his supervisor. The agent checked it out.
The phone number was tracked to a building on Commerce St. in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club was previously operated in 1963 by Jack Ruby.
barmtraiI 2 months ago
LBJ body language! "In a close investigation, authorities rely closely on the body movements displayed in the interrogation room. They review the tapes and watch for any hints. A shift in weight before a suspect responds to a question buys him more seconds to think about what he or she is going to say."
grantbondart 2 months ago
Google "Evelyn Lincoln list of suspects". Evelyn Lincoln was JFK's secretary for his whole political career (from when he started in the Senate in 53 to when he was killed in 63). On her way home from Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, she wrote a list of suspects of who she thought killed him, and LBJ was at the top. Last year her list of suspects was released for the first time - it is in her own handwriting.
TheLensSolution 2 months ago
The MLK and JFK assassinations are linked - directly.
After the car driven by the "alleged" killer of MLK was located, a piece of paper with the name and a phone number was found in it. The young FBI agent, Donald Wilson, did not give it to his supervisor. The agent checked it out.
The phone number was tracked to a building on Commerce St. in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club was previously operated in 1963 by Jack Ruby.
barmtraiI 2 months ago
Law & Order is the best disguise for political corruption and dictators.
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usefulstuf 2 months ago 6
You can tell he is guilty just by looking at his body language! And of course, there are people who have PHD's in non-verbal communication who can also do more analysis on this in the future. Jack Ruby himself identified LBJ as being behind the JFK assassination, and now we know that Lyndon Johnson was Evelyn Lincoln's #1 suspect too. Lincoln was JFK"s long-term personal secretary and confidante and her list of suspects is now online, with LBJ at the top!
TheLensSolution 2 months ago 19
@TheLensSolution who pulled the trigger? who is the supposed actual rifleman, from your take? i can't seem to get a solid answer..
Gtrplyr1 1 month ago
@Gtrplyr1 James Files(self admitted shooter), David Ferrie(hitman who was murdered 2 hours before he was supposed to testify.) I think at least 2 more shooters.
waspmeister 1 month ago
@waspmeister thanks... this is sad.. He was our last real president..
Gtrplyr1 1 month ago
@waspmeister Files is another CIA potted plant. They tried pushing him on the public many years ago. Didn't work. They they tried again a few years ago with the help of Jim Marrs. It worked on some people - like you. The "found" and aged bullet shell with a bite on it and "creative" telephone records BS is probably the joke that sold you. Files was going to be executed for his killing crimes and struck a deal.
Before Files, they tried pushing Roscoe White as the assassin.
barmtraiI 1 month ago
@barmtraiI Well I have never heard of any telephone records, but since you know so much smartass, why don't you tell us who did it, IF you know so much. But you can't cuz you don't. An admission is an admission. I never said he was the only one, did I? NO.
waspmeister 1 month ago
@waspmeister NBC Edward Epstein
".... NBC retained me as a consultant for their planned story on Files. .... established from telephone records Files was in Chicago, not Dallas, on November 22, 1963. We then placed a call to Files .... . He said he had a twin brother, who no one knew about, and whom he met shortly before November 22, and who he murdered after November 22. His wife, however, said there was no twin .... My view ... is that Files invented the story for the money ...".
barmtraiI 1 month ago
Johnson was a master manipulator. He wanted Kennedy out of the way so he could become president. He gave the order and Hunt and others carried it out. Don't take my word for it. E. Howard Hunt gave a deathbed confession concerning this.
alspry 2 months ago
@alspry I saw the Hunt confession. Another thing, is that Hunt is on video talking about the Diem assassination. Diem was president of S. Vietnam. Diem was assassinated on 1 Nov 63, 21 days before JFK.
On the video Hunt openly tells that the CIA did "fabricate" evidence that JFK ordered the murder of Diem.
Merriam-Webster dictionary - Fabricate: invent, create - 1a: accused of fabricating evidence).to make up for the purpose of deception (
jjh36Is 2 months ago
bunch of bullshit from a supreme bullshitter
pacoloco729 2 months ago
Kennedy went up against the industrial war complex. He was trying to avoid Vietnam and follow the rules of engagement according to the constitution. He also went up against the central banking system by printing debt free money through Ex. Order 11110 called the United States notes backed by silver instead of federal reserve notes backed by nothing. This would have destroyed them. Rothschild himself stated - give me control of a nations money and I care not what their laws are. Makes me wonder.
Ricku571 2 months ago
Yep!!! one guilty Man.
cruisersism 2 months ago
I love this video because it is complete true that LBJ was a liar. I am an expert on this topic...more so than anyone else, and I can tell you that my research has proven LBJ to be a complete liar and that he was behind the Kennedy assassination 100%. Anyone trying to claim otherwise is a fraud and most likely a communist that hates America and all it's value. They also do not believe in God.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 What research is that?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones haha i'm messing w/ you. i can see you are really into this so i'll leave you alone. good look with your endeavors.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
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Drummer1981 2 months ago
I don't think you know anything on the subject. I think you're a fraud.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 Go ahead, test me. After that, may I test your knowlegde on Johnson?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones i've moved on.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
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TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 Yes, that is probably for the best.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 TennesseeAsshole always lies, and is everywhere in the JFK rooms. Another dickhead based in Langley VA.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor Langley, Virginia? Are you ferreal? lmao
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeAsshole - Oswald and Ruby knew each other, regardless of your next lie to the contrary. The proof is already known.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor No it is not. Please, provide solid evidence that Oswald and Ruby knew eachother...
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeAsshole WC testimony, Henry Wade
"... they found some literature, I understand, some literature dealing with Free Cuba Movement. Following this--and so I looked up and Jack Ruby is in the' audience and he said, no, it is the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Well, he corrected me,... why someone in the audience would speak up and answer a question".
Fair Play for Cuba Committee was done ONLY during Oswald's time in New Orleans. Therefore, Ruby knew him from there.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor That is not what happened. There is a video of this particular incident, which shows all and sundry correcting Wade. Furthermore: it isn't even seen if Ruby was part of the 'chorus' correcting Wade. Lastly: The Fair Play for Cuba Committee was not 'unknown'; it had its main branch in New York.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeAsshole you already said "if" Ruby was correcting Wade. Ruby does not have be on a video correcting Wade. Wade gave the testimony about Ruby. And NY is irrelevant.
Asshole - you already know Ruby was in NO. If you want to look up various web sites again, go for it.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor No, I''m not interested in websites. Hard evidence, plz.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeAsshole try to give me hard evidence that Oswald shot anyone. You never have it.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor Oswald's rifle, Oswald's bullets, Oswald's handprint, Oswald's shirt. Anything else??
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeAsshole - all you provided was the CIA's and Hoover's "created" evidence. You have no hard evidence of Oswald doing anything. There was never any Oswald hand print. Oswald never owned any rifle or pistol. The only proof you have is that you are a lying asshole.
10Faenor 2 months ago
@10Faenor Furthermore, provide evidence that Ruby ever was in New Orleans.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
Also, TennesseeOwnsMyBones - how much time did you spend commenting on this stupid video. get a life dude.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 Oh I take pride in spending my leisure moments debunking anti-LBJ garbage. When one has actually studied the person and his politics, you get that 'flow'. How many books on LBJ have you read? You just barge in here talking about 'truth' when you obviously haven't read a single volume on the man.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
No. He is completely correct on everything.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
OSWALD and Others that could have been involved... Hmmm Why should any american accept the single bullet theory after hearing this from the president of the USA.
mrFalconlem 2 months ago
The fact of the matter is that JFK was murdered and LBJ was one of many who gained from this terrible deed.May God forgive them
cruisersism 2 months ago
"The Kennedy's will never embarras me again! That's not a threat - that's a promise!" Gee, Lyin' Butthead Johnson! If I could travel in time, I'd come for ya!
elfving73 2 months ago
@elfving73 Yeah, just spout some silly conspiracy theory myths, it's much easier than actually researching Johnson and his politics.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones
"Myths" - you gotta be kidding! Haha! I'd say you've missed your wakeup-call for years, and years to come!
elfving73 2 months ago
@elfving73 My wake up call consisted of finding out Oliver Stone's 'JFK' and pretty much every conspiracy theory out there had zero basis in acual fact. Sure, it was sobering, since it is far more consoling to believe a huge sinister conspiracy took the life of JFK than a lone nut. But that's the way it is.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones
I begun with reading about the Kennedys and their politics, LBJ, L Edgar Hoover, Clint Murchinson, Carlos Mosello, "Mac" Wallace, LHO, and many more, and boy - there's NO NEED to read about different cospiracies theories - I you study them all, everything points in ONE DIRECTION.
elfving73 2 months ago
@elfving73 Oh yes, the 'Hoover-Nixon-LBJ' party at Murchison's... Here's my wake up call to you: This 'party' is the brainchild of Madeline Brown, who came up with it decades after the fact. Wake up call no. 1: Clint Murchison a) did not own a house in Dallas in November 1963 and b) wasn't even in Dallas on Nov. 21 or Nov. 22 1963, as he was in his Glad Oaks ranch home in Palestine, Texas.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@elfving73 Wake up call no. 2: Jack Valenti testified that LBJ spent the entire night with him at the Texas Hotel in Fort Worth. Wake up call no. 3: Hoover was in Washington D.C. on both Nov. 21 and Nov. 22. Wake up call no. 4: It's Carlos Marcello. Wake up call no. 5: LBJ was probably more progressive and liberal than Kennedy - but one only finds this out when one actually studies Johnson's political ideology.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones
Ok! I'm not worse than I can admit that's perhaps me who needs a wakeup call. You've obviosly done your homework. I begun "studying" the assassination of JFK only a few weeks ago. Simply because I saw a vignette on Discovery about a program about the assassination. "The Secret Service guys speak out for the first time since the assassination". I found it interesting and though that I should read a little before I saw the program, so I could follow a little closer....
elfving73 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones
So, these last weeks, I've been absorbed by the theme. Been spending hours after hours every night, reading, looking at clips etc. I've been through all the "It was/it was not LHO", "It was not a conspiracy", "It WAS a consperacy". But I wasn't til I begun reading about the persons claimed to have been involved that I saw a pattern that in the end points in the same direction. I may still have loads of things wrong, but I still think these guys was involved somehow.
elfving73 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones
I don't have a personal interest to conclude a specific "truth". I'm just very curious, it's an intriguing story, and I would like to know, as many others I guess, what really happen. If you think I'm on the wrong track, please point me in the direction you believe one have to stroll to get closer to the truth. I'm honestly interested, and even if I didn't make it come across, I am open-minded.
elfving73 2 months ago
@elfving73 Well, to me, the change occurred after watching 'Beyond Conspiracy' and reading Larry Sturdivan's 'JFK Myths. A Scientific Investigation into the Kennedy Assassination." I started out, in 1987, as a conspiracy theorist. But eventually, the forensic evidence, along with physics, made me a Lone Nutter.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones You need to be born again.
cruisersism 2 months ago
@cruisersism I take it you adhere to Luke 14:33.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@elfving73 start with the mcadms site online that deals with the assasination. Then read bugliosi's book. if you do that and still don't come to the conclusion that Oswald did it alone, then you believe in a home somewhere.
arther1045 2 months ago
BS Johnson just wanted as many fox holes as possible for people to hunt the truth.
Garymayo 2 months ago
LBJ is a conman,plain and simple
nicenonya3 2 months ago
Fuck Johnson. You can tell he's hiding something, its just eating him up inside.
74jailbreaker 2 months ago
there's about fifteen things a man does when he tellsa lie - LBJ just did about ten of 'em..
reefergladness 2 months ago
@reefergladness How many lies did Garrison tell? Or Oliver Stone for that matter?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
lets see eisenhower sent the first 3000 advisor to vietnam, kennedy had 16000 advisors training south vietnamese,,johnson took over and by 1966 usa had 385,000 army and marine in vietnam with 70,000 navy personel offshore..is that an increase ..duh ...the vietnam war was the one i was drafted and many of my friends and family served in ,TennesseOwn MY Bones your the one thats doesnt know squat...
mtzlypk 2 months ago
@mtzlypk Could you please point out to me where I have said Johnson did NOT escalate the Vietnam War? Please read again: I am denying the bogus claim that Johnson a) was inherently gung ho for war in Vietnam - advising both Eisenhower and Kennedy against going to Asia - and b) that LBJ was PART OF A CONSPIRACY to kill JFK so that he COULD escalate the war. It is this disgusting claim that Johnson was somehow involved in the murder of JFK that pisses me off, as it has NO basis in fact.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
and those involved in elliminating Castro with Cuban `exciles`, CIA assassins and the the toxic cocktail of all mentioned along with mob involvment who lost a lot of `business` in Cuba, the playground of the rich under the Batista regime. Something happened that resulted in their guns turning on Kennedy which in turn meant it had to be covered up by the many who knew of this toxic cocktail.Look at the Cuba issue alone and it is, in my view, motive enough for that very infamous murder in 1963.
8corporal 3 months ago
I`m not sure LBJ was as guilty or as implicit in urging for Kennedy`s murder as is suggested. To understand the kennedy assassination/murder, or any murder you need to understand the motive and fotr that you need to understand his presdiency and the times he governed in. Who hated kennedy with a passion? Those who felt let donw by his `inaction` on Cuba, Bay of Pigs, the missile crisis and the intact nature of Castro Government. That is where the nature of the motive lays for me,
8corporal 3 months ago
As diabolical and murderous a bastard as he was, LBJ was still (barely) a human being. Here he expresses human frailty. This clip should be a case study in body language.. uncomfortable posture, awkward pauses, sporadic eye contact (esp. when saying "or..others"). Add this video to his well-known endemic ruthless nature, his henchman Malcolm Wallace's fingerprints in the Dal-Tex Bldg, and self-incriminating dialogue with Hoover, and it becomes clear this guy was up to his ears in the conspiracy.
jmurphy778 3 months ago 6
@jmurphy778 Malcolm Wallace? You're kidding me, right? Will you conspiracists look beyond discredited bs 'documentaries' and Oliver Stone movies, please?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 3 months ago
@jmurphy778 you're damn right.
Drummer1981 2 months ago
@Drummer1981 Uhm no. He is not. He is damn wrong. Do the research. Find out all about Madeline Brown and her bogus testimony. Start off with the fact that Clint Murchison did not even own a home in Dallas in Nov 1963 and was at his Glad Oaks ranch in Palestine, Texas on Nov 22.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
Johnson's facial expressions and body language in this interview suggest a man who is tired of carrying the weight of an enormous lie, one that has tormented the shit out of him.
dogterd 3 months ago
@dogterd Will you people ACTUALLY DO SOME RESEARCH? LBJ was tormented allright, tormented by the notion that there was indeed a communist-inspired conspiracy behind the JFK assassination. THAT is why he was tormented. Well, that, and having been saddled with a war he did not want nor ever sought.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 3 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Why do you troll all the Kennedy vids? NONSTOP. This would show that you have an agenda, one that is clear because your existence is one of pushing the 'lone nut' theory without any waivering to all the evidence that points to another conclusion. That sir, disqualifies you as a source of truth. You cannot be taken seriously because you are either obviously insane or you are paid to carry out this mission of disinfo. Either way, you stink.
blite13 2 months ago
@blite13 This is pretty rich... I refuse to accept the bonanza of conspiracy theory bullshit that has clouded this case, and, therefore, I am either insane or (chuckle) a paid bagman. Could you please read that bit for yourself again: I disagree with the conspiracy theories, as none have any basis in fact, so therefore, I am on a 'paid mission' by The Man to cover up 'the truth'?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Let me guess, people being paid to troll certain vids to spew propaganda for the Gov and Corporations could never happen, right? I mean, the Gov would never waste time and money on having paid goofs with hundreds of alias accounts swarming certain vids to discredit and deflect the truth, nahhh, could never happen, right? Just like police sending provocateurs into protests, even sporting event crowds to incite riot behavior, could never happen, right?
blite13 2 months ago
@blite13 En waarom zou Oom Sam een Nederlander betalen om hun vuile werk op te knappen?
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Who the freak knows, maybe because it makes money? Mr Tennessee lying ass.
blite13 2 months ago
@blite13 I'm a social-democrat actually. That is why I dig LBJ's Great Society. You'd have known LBJ was fighting ultra-capitalism and the oppression of the poor, sick and elderly if you had bothered to actually study the man and his ideas.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones I know LBJ was just a saint who never wanted to harm a flea, and Bill Clinton was just so sweet. All those people he helped in WhiteWater and Mena Arkansas, shame all those people who had to die because they knew too much. Just as long as Bill could have his blow and his bitches and Hiliary could have her muffpie, it was all good, right?
blite13 2 months ago
@blite13 Uhm no. LBJ was no saint. Please quote me where I made such a remark.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Oh, a socialist democrat...why don't you just say communist? So you love that JFK was done in the manner he was, ahhh, starting to make sense.
blite13 2 months ago
@blite13 Because communism does not correlate with the core tenent of social-democracy... being, democracy.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@blite13 Also, I don't 'love' JFK being 'done' in that matter. JFK, along with people like LBJ, Robert Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey and Ralph Yarborough were true social democrats who would have prevented America - and the West in general - from spiraling into this cesspool of corporatism and dog-eat-dog capitalism spearheaded by Ronald Reagan.
TennesseeOwnsMyBones 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Yeah right.....DREAM ON. LBJ took the Gov straight into what you say he prevented, you are a poser, not worth anyone's time really.What do you care anyways? "you are just a dutchman".
blite13 2 months ago
@TennesseeOwnsMyBones Reagan was a horrible president. He took the country in the wrong direction!
Yellyist 2 months ago