Although the nazi's didn't treat blacks as bas jews and perhaps not worse then people in America did, but they certainly considered blacks/africans as lesser men than germans.
Did u know that the hospitality given was actually an attribute of a nazi directive set in place prior to the arrivial of the foreign athletes to show extreme tolerance
There in this footage is Captain Hollywood, Joseph Goebbels, the idiot who swung the decision for Nazi Germany to stage this Olympic fiasco. Had the Nazis stuck to their original, and correct, idea that the Olymplic was "an infamous festival domnated by Jews ", and thus curtailed their hosting of the 1936 Olympics, then none of this Black Power stuff would have been conceived and born then. There'd be no Torch Relay - with every nuclear family dosey nowadays whining over who can have a carry.
He only won because he was wearing shoes made by a NAZI, his name was Adolf Dassler you guys may know his shoe brand Adidas, or you might know his brother Rudolf dassler he made Puma.
@tallbr0 Yes i did i was going on the Jokeing side, with a true fact but if you take it to heart, then i guess that's the way u took it, I guess i should of added a lol at the end to make sure to show people i was jokeing. My bad LOL
hitler may have treated him well but in the end he was an asshole to many people and caused a lot of heartache and destruction.
the sad thing is that all sides were lead by assholes and still are. this is why sport is held so highly in our society, for the most part it is pure.
its right there no hiding no bullshit, you go out you run, jump, kick, pass, shoot, throw, there are no hidden agendas.
thats why we hate our leaders due to their self-serving lying and bullshit
its ironic that owens was treated better in NAZI GERMANY, than he was in the states. The German people asked him for autographs when he was in public. Hitler even sent him a "commemorative inscribed cabinet photograph of himself."
@sadface0 lol,..keep sniffing glue, dude. Nazi Germany was already enforcing racial hygiene policys, purging academia & science of political opposition & especially jews. The 1935' passage of the Nuremberg Laws were a series of antisemitic laws that stripped german citizenship from people based on their religion.
How ironic Germany used the olympics as a public relations device to promote national socialism and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.
@fluffy1931 are you an idiot? I simply pointed out that owens received more respect in hitlers Germany than he would've gotten back home. Germans cheered for him, asked him for autographs, and Hitler even congratulated owens on his victories. This is straight out of his autobiography, faggot.
@sadface0 lol,..you dumbfuck. Nazi Germany staged the olympics for public relations. At that same time they were purging political opposition & inferior people ( jews,gypsys, etc.,) deemed by their 'pseudoscience' and racial hygiene policys from government, academia & business & science. The passage of the1935' Nuremberg Laws besides enforcing anti-semitic laws stripped german citizens of their citizenship based on their religion.
You are all obviously ignorant of the fact that Hitler, before the Jesse Owens victory was called away for an inportant conference, he later came back to congratulate Jesse on his achievement, how do I know? I have read Jesse's autobiography, have you?
Adolf Hitler in 1930 lectured an American journalist from Scribner's Magazine that 99% of the USA banks were owned and operated by the jews. The correct figure though was closer to 90%. Soon after Hitler was elected in 1933 the magazine Saturday Evening Post published an article which espoused that Germans possessed "infantile minds" because they could not accept the reality of their servitude to jewish power while Americans were able to accept the reality of their lives under jewish control.
@MOONBEAMRAINE2012 No. It's true. The BBC has the falsified propaganda in it's adio library and played it on air. Owens stated he was treated well by Hitler and his sister also states this
Oh yes, I forgot. Hitler was a paragon of virtue who just wanted to befriend the poor. I must have confused him with a malignignant, sspiteful, small-minded, paranoid megalomaniacal lunatic who brought about the deaths of millions through his policies of race hatred and European domination. Im always making that mistake. Id forgotten about Lloyd Georges contribution to democracy. That would be why he sold knighthoods and peerages I guess - to promote the cause of democracy.
Not that I would agree with germanys political system back then (or now -.-), but african americans were not treatet to good in the USA either. And that even long after WW 2 was over, so america probably isn´t the best thing to name when it comes to human rights.
@autSigurd I have been very critical of the USAs human and civil rights record but at no time has there ever been a policy to exterminate its ethnic minorities. The two cases are not comparable. And I am fully aware that the USA had slavery and conducted acts of barbarism against the Native Americans (Indians). It is fashionable these days to say everyone is as bad as everyone else. and "The victors write history" (1) Everyone isnt equally bad and (2) Sometimes victors tell the truth.
"Its up to us to learn form all the mistakes but also forgive and to forget." - Ochick
You know what? A comment as plainly contradictory and badly reasoned as that let's me know that I am dealing with a major victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. And therefore, there is no point trying to show you why. I mean, please, LOOK at what you chuffin' wrote!!!
Holy shit,, Pole vaulting & High jumping (pure agility) with no protection for the landing,, That shit should be an enforced again for my amusement!! lol
ADOLF HITLER WAS THE GREATEST GERMAN - NO, THE GREATEST EUROPEAN THERE HAS EVER BEEN. COMPARE THAT TO ANY WESTERN PRESENT-DAY MONEY-HUNGRY POLITICAL BROILER AND YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
@JumalanMyrsky Yeah, that's why Germany was in a such a lovely condition when he had finished with it. Smashed to bits, occupied, partitioned and full of dead people. Way to go, Adolf.
@USERNAMEfieldempty I think its the UK and US fault it was smashed to bits. UK was the first to bomb citys. Hitler waited 3 weeks for churchill to stop but he didnt. The German people got angry at there familys being horribly killed so Hitler had do fight fire with fire. What you did in Dresden is a holocaust like it or not. Roservelt and Churchill didnt have good morals. God have mercy on their soles
@USERNAMEfieldempty No everything is correct in my comment. If you want to go back intime a bit more then it would be the Treaty of Versilles that destroyed Germany. Even the UK people though that the Treaty was wronge. The Nazi party was the only ones willing to try and get free of it. As the Great Lloyd George said "Hitler is the Geroge washington of Germany". They many have done terrible things but they have been punished. So should our Government for what we have done.
@ochick1 Hey, guess what? Your great-grandfathers would punch you in the mouth for the shit you are spewing and they would be absolutely right to do so.
To try to remove any blame from the Nazis for the second world war is an evil and stupid thing to do. So fuck off and get a proper political/historical education or just admit that you're a Nazi.
@USERNAMEfieldempty As a christian my job is to forgive people. Jesus forgave the jews and the romans for what they did to him. So i think we can forgive the Nazis. Only The Father can deside whether someone is evil or not. Saying that someone is evil is a act of blasphemy. Ony one grand parent was invloved and he never talked about it cos he seen the awfull thing that happened to the crews of the ships he sank. Like them being burnt alive in the oil spill.
@ochick1 'Forgiving' the Nazis is NOT the same as trying to show they were blameless. You are trying to blame the allies, that is not the same claim as 'forgiving the Nazis' by a country mile. I don't care a button if you are a Christian... in your last two posts you explicitly tried to exonerate The Nazis from any blame. That's a bloody strange thing for a Christian to try and do.
@ochick1 How dare you! How dare you presume to forgive the Nazis for the crimes they inflicted upon other people! To hell with the judgment of God. Where was God when all the suffering was taking place and where is he now? If he doesnt show an interest in what his "creatures" are up to we just have to deal with things ourselves.Go and do your "job" elsewhere you sanctimonious waste of oxygen! You cant forgive on behalf of other people and only a Christian would have the gall to try.
@mikelheron20 Instead of "forgiving" it would have been helpful if Christian churches had stood up for the Jews in the war. Most were happy to turn a blind eye. There were some brave exceptions but not many. The record of Christianity v the Jews is a bloody disgrace. They should be asking forgiveness for themselves not for the Nazis.
@mikelheron20 ALso just cos areas of the catholic church didnt help dosent mean all churchs did nothing. My own church donated money to Hungarian jews so they could move to the UK befor the war got out of hand.
@ochick1 I accept that. That is why I said "most". I realise that many were in ignorance of the events and probably none knew the full scale of the horrors.I avoided singling out the Catholic Church because I didnt want to imply that they were the only religious group that gave comfort to the Nazis. But the Catholic Church has a particularly heavy burden of responsibility. Although, once again, there were Catholics who did what they could to assist the Jews.
@mikelheron20 Gods last act in interfearing with life was with noah. And he showed the rainbow in they sky to show that he was sorry for his actions and never do it again. Life is short but it God its for ever. These mean in our short time in life its our duty to be servents of lord god. There is no going forward if people keep bitch about whos worse in each war. All war is wornge. Its up to us to learn form all the mistakes but also forgive and to forget.
@ochick1 You are fully entitled to forgive people who wrong you. But you are not entitled to forgive people who wrong others. That is the privilege of the victim and belongs to no one else. We all agree that war is wrong and that we should learn from our mistakes. Well then lets learn - and we wont do that by forgetting the lessons from the past or by minimising them. Are you saying that God apologised for the flood? Ive heard it all now. That he regretted it? For an omnipotent
@mikelheron20 omniscient and omni-everything else being he didnt show much foresight then did he? By the way, he only said he wouldnt destroy the world by flooding again - so dont cancel your fire insurance just yet. Mind you, youre probably not covered for "acts of God" anyway.
@mikelheron20 The act of showing noah and the people the rainbow is debated as god feeling the need to give us a gift. The only reson for this gift would be to show is apology for what he has done so that the people of earth (It never realy says all the earth was flooded) could trust him. Some desisions are hard to make even when it is a posative. So even though God had every right to do it its still best to apologise.
@mikelheron20 Lloyd George is greatest man in British history. He gave the bigest steps into a true democracy and helped the poor out of the cycle of poverty. In 1936 he spent alot of time in Germany going over with Hitler the idea of National Socialism which was inline with his own beliefs of helping the poor. He also talked to lots of random Germans to see there opinion which they all were happy to finaly have hope in there lives.
@mikelheron20 Any way we cant reach an agreement so lets leave it. This video dosent even show us anything. The one were he is being interviewed atleast shows us somthing.
@ochick1 Yeah God save their shoes, you illiterate moron.
Ever heard of Coventry or the Blitz? THAT came first, not Dresden. The reason Churchill was criticised for Dresden was that it was revenge. Calling Dresden a holocaust is a bit like saying its the same as gassing 6 million Jews. Or that Germany's bombing campaign of Britain was a holocaust, which I'm sure you wouldn't dream of saying, right?
@DominionOfTheSword As i said in one of the comments. The UK were the first ones to bomb citys due to German air defences being to stornge in military areas. In Dresden more children died then the whole of ww2 (including the holocaust) and ww1 put togther. This was because the children that were in hiding in the country were evacuated to dresden as the Russian army was pushing in from the east. So yes that is the same as killing jews which have not commited a crime.
respect from native american apache in the mountain! i've traveled and seen first hand the lies and terrorism of the zionist "jew," fuck them in my rez we eradicate them and their usurping businesses too!!!!
It is fashionable to say "Theyre all as bad as each other." or "There was wrong on both sides." The second statement is true - the first is not. There are degrees of evil. It is just lazy thinking not to differentiate. Saying that the Nazis were worse is simply a statement of fact and doesnt exonerate other nations from war crimes. The stage on from "They were no worse than anyone else" becomes "They were good guys really." No they werent. They were evil murdering scum and we mustnt forget it.
@deephiddentruth I am not an expert on this period of American history and I know that there is a great deal of misinformation, courtesy of Hollywood. I dont feel competent to comment on it to any great degree. My original point - and I hold to it - is that while US governments undoubtedly have a great deal to answer for in their treatment of various ethnic groups there has never been (to my knowledge) a policy of ethnic cleansing or genocide - unlike Nazi Germany.
@mikelheron20 ....but the successful ethnic cleansing of the red Indian was US government policy. Which was why no bastard was ever hung for the crime. The same US government have a lot to answer for the covert overthrowing of many foriegn governments ..... but thats another whole different ball game.
@deephiddentruth Well, just as you appear to be sceptical about the Holocaust (in the face of overwhelming evidence: photographs, films, eyewitness accounts, scrupulously maintained records, testimony of prison guards, artifacts, confessions and boasts by war criminals and the testimony of the survivors) I remain sceptical of your claims that are not supported with anything like the same weight of evidence. You will no doubt take this as further proof of naivety or bias.
@mikelheron20 So be it. I will just comment on one point since it concerns my own country. Yes, the British invented the concentration camp in the Boer War.To compare them with Dachau, Belsen, Treblinka, Auschwitz etc. is absurd and leaves you wide open to the charge of extreme naivety.
@mikelheron20 Ah possibly the most racist country ever. Well besides the fact there is now a sign at Dachau proclaiming there was NEVER any gassings or even was it a death camp at least shows how mud sticks and just how those liberating bastards could lie. Don't think the British were angels before their camp invention. There is a plaque in New York in rememberance to the 55,000 Americans who died on prison ships from torture disease and starvation during the American Revolution.
@mikelheron20 Ah possibly the most racist country ever. Well besides the fact there is now a sign at Dachau proclaiming there was NEVER any gassings or even was it a death camp at least shows how mud sticks and just how those liberating bastards could lie. Don't think the British were angels before their camp invention. There is a plaque in New York in rememberance to the 55,000 Americans who died on prison ships from torture disease and starvation during the American Revolution.
@mikelheron20 When the Spanish Armarda was defeated only the British could leave their seamen at sea to eventually die so not to pay them their well earned wages lol Only the righteous high moral British lol I have to hand it to them!
@deephiddentruth Im sure youve heard of Godwins Law. It says that your internet opponent has lost the argument when he starts bringing the Nazis into it. Ive got a new one. Its called Mikes Law and says: Your opponent is really fucked when he starts dragging the Spanish Armada into the discussion. Thanks for giving me a good laugh. I spat my coffee when I read your comment. Im sending it to my friends. They could do with a good laugh too. Thanks again.
@mikelheron20 Well while your laughing, anytime you need proof let me know. I was explaining the ruthlessness that the British are capeable of. The same ruthlessness needed for an an Island smaller then Texas to rule over 2/3 of the world. I once had a similar debate and the guy turned round and said,"At least the British Empire wasn't as cruel all the others." I can assure you I laughed louder and longer than you.
@mikelheron20 No, the British did not invent concentration camps in the Boer War. Americans used them to 'pacify the natives' in the Philippines after they conquered them, and earlier, in the 1830s and 40s, in their own country for the same purpose.
@Oswulf1 If you say so. But it doesnt really matter who invented them, does it? The point is that comparing the Nazi extermination camps (lets call them that to avoid confusion) with what were essentially internment camps is fatuous.
@mikelheron20 I honestly believe you know nothing of the Boer war. Burning down every household and imprisoning every Boer including women and children. Having them rot to die by starvation and disease. Then after home political pressure finally shipping off any remaining survivors to a far off British South Atlantic Island colony to complete the job. THIS IS WHAT I CALL EXTERMINATION.
@mikelheron20 "My claims are not supported lol Unfortunately for you 90% of your case was debunked at the Earnst Zundell trial in Canada in the late 80's or early 90's. The chief Jewish witness didn't bother turning up for the re-trial as he committed purjury in the 1st. No I have no fear of the outcome with a proper investigating of the Holocaust but obviously some on your side of the fence do.
Jesse Owens was my great-uncle and it's amazing to see that he's still relevant. My family would be very proud to have been a pillar in "African American" history, if there is such a thing. Nice vid. Much love from Detroit, Murder City.
@wuggysback Your great uncle was a fine man. You should be proud of him. I heard a recording of he and his sister on the BBC saying he was treated well by Hitler, and an historian admitting Jessie was being used for propaganda purposes
Hitler was a smart man if you read books you would understand but that doesn't not make him into a lunatic. he wanted revenge and he got Germany at a perfect time when they were unstable and mad. Lots of Germans did not even want Hitler. He lied and convinced people to believe him using excuses like Poland attacked them first at the end of the day he was crazy all he wanted was a white ariyon nation and nothing good come out of that.
For those who can't lip-read German, on seeing Jesse bust that 100m dash, Hitler vowed "Verdammt, Ich vill blitz zis neue VorldRekord" ... which he did, in 1939, by racing a similar distance across the Polish border in 9 seconds flat! Owens, in recognition of the superior athlete, then gave all his gold medals back to Onkel Adolph and promised to never again sass the White Man.
Germany treated Jesse better than the USA ever did. Roosevelt wouldn't meet him on his return and he was left to race horses to earn a living for a novelty. Stop using the race card it makes the US look stupid. Jesse Owen wasn't even allowed to use a whiteman's rest room and things didn't improve by the 60's when Cassius Clay dumped his gold medal when he was refused a meal in a restaurant. Add to that the previous wiping out of the red indians and the US have no moral grounds for arguement.
@mikelheron20 Oh really why is that then. Maybe you think the annailation of the Red Indians does not count or the enslaving , hanging, burning, raping negroes was just a "phase". lol Whether the German Reich actually commited the holocaust or not (which is still up for debate except for fear of imprisonment) it was only around for 12 years. America has over 300 years of blood on it's hands. I would like to know what your grounds for uncomparability.
@deephiddentruth I have been as outspoken as anyone on Americas civil and human rights record. But never in the history of the USA was there an avowed policy of genocide. Americas treatment of Native Americans was a shameful part of its history - its treatment of negroes also. But neither come close to the barbaric, systematised murder of the Jews. I know in this age of moral relativism everyone is deemed as bad as everyone else but it is simply untrue.
@mikelheron20 I guess you are not a Red Indian or a black American as somehow I don't think they will share your view of minimizing their treatment. I never heard of a jew having the children taken away and had " the indian" beaten out of them or hung from a tree burning. How about Korean, Vietnamese, Arab and Afghan civilians for good measure as my god the US have systematically killed millions of those since 1945.Could you tell me what part of the 300 odd years of the US that are not shameful?
@deephiddentruth You have missed my point. It was not my intention to minimise the terrible things you mention and if I have given that impression I apologise unreservedly. The difference is that while these things happened they were not a matter of national policy. They were actions conducted by wicked individuals. Atrocities occur in warfare and are despicable but- to my knowledge - they have not been sanctioned by the US government. I know you will quote carpet bombing
@mikelheron20 in Vietnam and many other acts carried out in war and I would not sek to defend them. I regard the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as indefensible no matter how much they shortened the war. But the Nazis, uniquely, as a matter of national policy systematically, coldly and efficiently set out to exterminate, in the most brutal way, an entire race and anyone who did not match their warped view of racial, physical, mental perfection. And the USA never did that.
@codalisa007 Are you saying that it was ever the policy of any US government to exterminate native Americans? Chief Joseph of the Nez Perces said "They made us many promises but they only kept one. They promised to take our land and they did." And he was right. What the US (I am from the UK by the way) did was indefensible. But they didnt round up native Americans - put them in camps and exterminate them. Or do you have information that they did? If so, I have never seen it.
@mikelheron20 It is obvious by the naivety of your answers on the red indian debate you are truely unaware of the full horrors unleashed on women and children by the US army. That does not make you a bad person as the Red indian history has been swept out of sight. However what you are actually saying whether you realise it or not is that the life of a Jew is worth more than a red indian. Maybe for some enlightenment U tube Massacre at wounded knee coincidently the same year Hitler was born.
@deephiddentruth That is a very silly and unfair thing to say. I have admitted that I am no expert in these matters. Are you? I have a decent laymans knowldge of the history of Native Americans and their treatment at the hands of the US government,and the army. I have read may of the standard works on the subject but I realise that doesnt qualify me as an expert. Neither does it make me naive. I certainly do not regard any man, woman or child's life as more or less valuable
@mikelheron20 than that of another and I dislike this sort of argument because it inevitably gives that impression - especially when people are looking for signs of prejudice and bias. So let me ask you a straightforward, simple question. Do you consider the scale of the atrocities against the Native Americans to be comparable to those inflicted upon the Jews. Incidentally, I have read "Bury my heart at wounded knee" (as well as a number of other books about Native American
@mikelheron20 All I am saying is the Allies have no moral grounds to judge the Third Reich. They themselves committed attrocities in WW2. Historically America are guilty of genocide as are the British who even invented the concentration camps they have tried to dump on Hitler. The propganda used on Hitler and the Germans by these evil bastards is a perpetual daily exercise on TV and the media. They have no moral right especially on the word of a mass killer and liar like Stalin to judge anyone.
@mikelheron20 history. I said I was not an expert - not that I was ignorant or uninformed. (Note to self: dont be so modest in future). I have also watched (before you mentioned it) the Utube video. In fact, it paints a rather watered down version of events compared to Dee Browns.
@mikelheron20 My answer is: What happened to the Red Indian far outwieghs what happened to the Jews. The Jews were allowed to leave with all their wealth ( Transfer agreement) War broke out and enemies of the state (not just Jews) were placed in camps just as in the US. There is no doubt prisoners were shot but systematic gassings, soap, lampshades pure propaganda.As for the Red Indians plight? I have never heard of scalping, using tits for tobacco, dancing around with mutilated arms and legs.
@mikelheron20 Well the fact that you do seem aware of such massacres by the US military throughout the hundreds of years of persucution of the red indian surprises me. To take away a man's land and freedom and place him in a concentration camp, not as a war time inconvienance but for the rest of his LIFE certainly does not give anyone the moral right to critise the Third Riech. Especially when there is now more than enough evidence to debunk the gassings to warrant a public debate/investigation.
@deephiddentruth Incredibly, you seem to be confusing concentration camps with POW camps. Jews werent sent there to live out the war - they were sent there to work as slaves and die. By contrast, Sitting Bull led his people to a reservation from which he was allowed to leave to join Bill Cody. Have you ever heard of a jew seeking out a concentration camp or being allowed to leave one - except as smoke pouring from a chimney?
@mikelheron20 Well if you knew anything about cremation there is never any smoke pouring from a chimney. That is exactly the Hollywood myth I am talking about. As for Sitting Bull he was just one example who could leave to make a certain white man rich. Do you think he would be allowed to lead his tribe off? The Jews were sent to work as in any POW camp they even had a swimming pool in Auschwitz. .
Why do you think none of the accused people either working in the camps or giving orders to them claimed there was no gassing? Frank, Hoess, Eichmann and so many others. And why didn't the producers of Zyklon B negate production and delivery and the authenticity of documents showing it, if they had to fear death if convicted?
@silverbud There has been a question mark over how "confessions" were extracted. Also the threat to their familes if they did not comply. The documentary "Cole in Auschwitz" where David Cole a jew actually gets an interview with the guy in charge who openly admits to "alterations to the camp" after the war by the Soviets. The chimney they built is not even attached to any building. Blue Zyclon B stains left in the delousing room is clearly not visible in the so called gas chamber. All on U tube.
@deephiddentruth How many german black folks do you think existed at the time? All the nazis combined and there could have been more racists in the USA, why? Take a look at the size difference in land. Hitler fancied himself a scholar, outstanding individuals intrigued him, does that make him a good person? No, what is your point? I probably shouldn't have to remind you how many africans the nazis killed.
@CommunistCookie The reason there were not many blacks in Germany was because they hadn't shipped them in by the millions as slaves like the US did you idiot. Would you like me to completely obliterate your arguement by showing you Africans in German uniform and Muslims fighting for Hitler you ill informed communist cookie?
@deephiddentruth ya FDR had the whole US team come to the white house - all BUT Jesse. the Klan told him that if Jesse showed up that they would drop their support for him. FDR could not hold the southern vote without the Klan. And in NS Germany Jesse sat in the front of the bus for the first time in his LIFE.
What was his reaktion? I not see or heard a reaktion! Should he be happy that another Nation Black or White win a Game? Is Obama happy when the germans or the french win?
@toprookie well it was all part of the chamberlain "appeasement" policy , but in the end it was just a plan against the U.S.S.R. That plan went wrong tho, hitler was taking advantage from the anticomunist countries world wide (after all he was even taking advantage of the anticomunist people of germany).
2 world wars and one world cup.. doodah
deathfromabove592 17 hours ago
@deathfromabove592 All with the help of the USA and one russian linesman or it could never have been achieved ... DOODAH!
deephiddentruth 12 hours ago
hitler wasnt racist
he was allies with arabs and italians who are NOT aryan
he was against corruption
21scuderia 18 hours ago
Hitler's reaction? If Hitler to England was a joke ... imagine this black man...
666NSBM88 1 day ago
Germany won ...
666NSBM88 1 day ago
Hahahahaha,,,American Jesse Owens kicked butt!
rgneufeld 1 day ago
Although the nazi's didn't treat blacks as bas jews and perhaps not worse then people in America did, but they certainly considered blacks/africans as lesser men than germans.
gravettian 2 days ago
Did u know that the hospitality given was actually an attribute of a nazi directive set in place prior to the arrivial of the foreign athletes to show extreme tolerance
CaptCrewSock 2 days ago
back when atheletes won for real,not with steroids,
dcigsfan2306 2 days ago
There in this footage is Captain Hollywood, Joseph Goebbels, the idiot who swung the decision for Nazi Germany to stage this Olympic fiasco. Had the Nazis stuck to their original, and correct, idea that the Olymplic was "an infamous festival domnated by Jews ", and thus curtailed their hosting of the 1936 Olympics, then none of this Black Power stuff would have been conceived and born then. There'd be no Torch Relay - with every nuclear family dosey nowadays whining over who can have a carry.
Richardhedditch261 3 days ago
and all they had to do was yell....."Police!!!"And jesse ran like the wind.
spm1021 4 days ago
He only won because he was wearing shoes made by a NAZI, his name was Adolf Dassler you guys may know his shoe brand Adidas, or you might know his brother Rudolf dassler he made Puma.
ST4leave 4 days ago
@ST4leave did you just say he ONLY won because of his shoes. really wowwww the shit ppl say on fb
tallbr0 4 days ago
@tallbr0 Yes i did i was going on the Jokeing side, with a true fact but if you take it to heart, then i guess that's the way u took it, I guess i should of added a lol at the end to make sure to show people i was jokeing. My bad LOL
ST4leave 4 days ago
@ST4leave this is true, ive beeen ridiculed so many times for stating this fact. thank you sir.
paz77ful 3 days ago
@ST4leave Hahahaha but it took a black American to show them how to wear them!
rgneufeld 1 day ago
Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson, and Hank Aaron are athletes to look up to, against all odds they stayed humbled.
cflo1386 4 days ago
owens was awesome.
hitler may have treated him well but in the end he was an asshole to many people and caused a lot of heartache and destruction.
the sad thing is that all sides were lead by assholes and still are. this is why sport is held so highly in our society, for the most part it is pure.
its right there no hiding no bullshit, you go out you run, jump, kick, pass, shoot, throw, there are no hidden agendas.
thats why we hate our leaders due to their self-serving lying and bullshit
markbatch 4 days ago
1:46 NO CRASH MAT !!! hardcore!!
checkyerself 4 days ago
@checkyerself I was saying the same thing. Badass!!
tyrehoward 2 days ago
its ironic that owens was treated better in NAZI GERMANY, than he was in the states. The German people asked him for autographs when he was in public. Hitler even sent him a "commemorative inscribed cabinet photograph of himself."
lolol, its just funny
sadface0 5 days ago 18
@sadface0 Amazing huh? It only shows how truly wicked America is.
mansamusa2012 5 days ago
@sadface0 im pretty sure hitler just did all that to make himself look good
STATiSofVITALETHICS 2 days ago
@sadface0 Roosevelt on the other hand didn't even send a telegram...
helvete1991 2 days ago
@sadface0 Ultimate Irony
tyrehoward 2 days ago
@sadface0
Perhaps only to you that's "funny".
;-/
farronx 2 days ago
@sadface0
very ironic
celph414 1 day ago
@sadface0 lol,..keep sniffing glue, dude. Nazi Germany was already enforcing racial hygiene policys, purging academia & science of political opposition & especially jews. The 1935' passage of the Nuremberg Laws were a series of antisemitic laws that stripped german citizenship from people based on their religion.
How ironic Germany used the olympics as a public relations device to promote national socialism and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.
pls gtfoh
fluffy1931 1 day ago
@fluffy1931 are you an idiot? I simply pointed out that owens received more respect in hitlers Germany than he would've gotten back home. Germans cheered for him, asked him for autographs, and Hitler even congratulated owens on his victories. This is straight out of his autobiography, faggot.
sadface0 1 day ago
@sadface0 lol,..you dumbfuck. Nazi Germany staged the olympics for public relations. At that same time they were purging political opposition & inferior people ( jews,gypsys, etc.,) deemed by their 'pseudoscience' and racial hygiene policys from government, academia & business & science. The passage of the1935' Nuremberg Laws besides enforcing anti-semitic laws stripped german citizens of their citizenship based on their religion.
pls gtfoh you nazi fagtard apologist
fluffy1931 23 hours ago
@sadface0 Really? That's interesting.
Yezzur011 1 day ago
You are all obviously ignorant of the fact that Hitler, before the Jesse Owens victory was called away for an inportant conference, he later came back to congratulate Jesse on his achievement, how do I know? I have read Jesse's autobiography, have you?
thecubanism 5 days ago 10
@thecubanism There is also a photogragh of that event.
LimerickWarrior1 2 hours ago
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"rear area pig"
guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/16/new-evidence-adolf-hitler
ButtHurtGrub 6 days ago
The J. Owens victory should be a message to hitler that there's not any superiority in mankind, of one over others.
Eliusalmo1 6 days ago
@Eliusalmo1 Hitler never treated Owens badly. On the contrary, the whole thing was a propaganda lie
alanbstard4 5 days ago
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Adolf Hitler in 1930 lectured an American journalist from Scribner's Magazine that 99% of the USA banks were owned and operated by the jews. The correct figure though was closer to 90%. Soon after Hitler was elected in 1933 the magazine Saturday Evening Post published an article which espoused that Germans possessed "infantile minds" because they could not accept the reality of their servitude to jewish power while Americans were able to accept the reality of their lives under jewish control.
HeLovedOnionSoup 5 days ago
@alanbstard4 wow that's crazy!! Nazi Germany treating Owens better than the United States!! that's some fucked up shit!!
MOONBEAMRAINE2012 4 days ago
@MOONBEAMRAINE2012 No. It's true. The BBC has the falsified propaganda in it's adio library and played it on air. Owens stated he was treated well by Hitler and his sister also states this
alanbstard4 4 days ago
This happens when men become "gods".
Eliusalmo1 6 days ago
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DominionOfTheSword 6 days ago
There was nothing to be forgiven for.
deephiddentruth 6 days ago
Oh yes, I forgot. Hitler was a paragon of virtue who just wanted to befriend the poor. I must have confused him with a malignignant, sspiteful, small-minded, paranoid megalomaniacal lunatic who brought about the deaths of millions through his policies of race hatred and European domination. Im always making that mistake. Id forgotten about Lloyd Georges contribution to democracy. That would be why he sold knighthoods and peerages I guess - to promote the cause of democracy.
mikelheron20 6 days ago
Not that I would agree with germanys political system back then (or now -.-), but african americans were not treatet to good in the USA either. And that even long after WW 2 was over, so america probably isn´t the best thing to name when it comes to human rights.
autSigurd 6 days ago
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@autSigurd I have been very critical of the USAs human and civil rights record but at no time has there ever been a policy to exterminate its ethnic minorities. The two cases are not comparable. And I am fully aware that the USA had slavery and conducted acts of barbarism against the Native Americans (Indians). It is fashionable these days to say everyone is as bad as everyone else. and "The victors write history" (1) Everyone isnt equally bad and (2) Sometimes victors tell the truth.
mikelheron20 6 days ago
"Its up to us to learn form all the mistakes but also forgive and to forget." - Ochick
You know what? A comment as plainly contradictory and badly reasoned as that let's me know that I am dealing with a major victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. And therefore, there is no point trying to show you why. I mean, please, LOOK at what you chuffin' wrote!!!
USERNAMEfieldempty 6 days ago
@WarriorClass22 Hurray
thefirstbeast 1 week ago
Revenge against the Nazi and The Whites...kill them all
WarriorClass22 1 week ago
@WarriorClass22 and kill the golden goose that lays all of the subhuman brown races golden eggs?
face it, without whitey, every third world brown race would be exterminated by northern asiatics. U mad brah?
lictor313 1 week ago
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LOL thats cute...why would I be mad when I can kick your cracker teeth in? YOU MAD now piggy?
WarriorClass22 1 week ago
Holy shit,, Pole vaulting & High jumping (pure agility) with no protection for the landing,, That shit should be an enforced again for my amusement!! lol
spinert 1 week ago
it began in africa.
dvrn86 1 week ago
that nigger should have been shot for upsetting the fuhuer
MrEnEmE420 1 week ago
Hitler was a joke, may he burn in hell for all eternity.
bathtownship 1 week ago
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7mikethebike 1 week ago
According to Woody Strode (actor and former decathlete, famed for his role in Spartacus), Hitlar commissioned a painting of him.
seanofafrica 1 week ago
so you're showing this vid for what. we see no reaction.
skinwalkerxxx 1 week ago
ADOLF HITLER WAS THE GREATEST GERMAN - NO, THE GREATEST EUROPEAN THERE HAS EVER BEEN. COMPARE THAT TO ANY WESTERN PRESENT-DAY MONEY-HUNGRY POLITICAL BROILER AND YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
DER FÜHRER LEBT IN UNSEREN HERZEN WEITER !
JumalanMyrsky 1 week ago
@JumalanMyrsky Yeah, that's why Germany was in a such a lovely condition when he had finished with it. Smashed to bits, occupied, partitioned and full of dead people. Way to go, Adolf.
USERNAMEfieldempty 1 week ago 2
@USERNAMEfieldempty I think its the UK and US fault it was smashed to bits. UK was the first to bomb citys. Hitler waited 3 weeks for churchill to stop but he didnt. The German people got angry at there familys being horribly killed so Hitler had do fight fire with fire. What you did in Dresden is a holocaust like it or not. Roservelt and Churchill didnt have good morals. God have mercy on their soles
ochick1 1 week ago
@ochick1 bullshit, Ochick. The Nazis are responsible for the destruction of Germany in WWII. Nobody else.
USERNAMEfieldempty 1 week ago
@USERNAMEfieldempty No everything is correct in my comment. If you want to go back intime a bit more then it would be the Treaty of Versilles that destroyed Germany. Even the UK people though that the Treaty was wronge. The Nazi party was the only ones willing to try and get free of it. As the Great Lloyd George said "Hitler is the Geroge washington of Germany". They many have done terrible things but they have been punished. So should our Government for what we have done.
ochick1 1 week ago
@ochick1 Hey, guess what? Your great-grandfathers would punch you in the mouth for the shit you are spewing and they would be absolutely right to do so.
To try to remove any blame from the Nazis for the second world war is an evil and stupid thing to do. So fuck off and get a proper political/historical education or just admit that you're a Nazi.
USERNAMEfieldempty 1 week ago
@USERNAMEfieldempty As a christian my job is to forgive people. Jesus forgave the jews and the romans for what they did to him. So i think we can forgive the Nazis. Only The Father can deside whether someone is evil or not. Saying that someone is evil is a act of blasphemy. Ony one grand parent was invloved and he never talked about it cos he seen the awfull thing that happened to the crews of the ships he sank. Like them being burnt alive in the oil spill.
ochick1 1 week ago
@ochick1 'Forgiving' the Nazis is NOT the same as trying to show they were blameless. You are trying to blame the allies, that is not the same claim as 'forgiving the Nazis' by a country mile. I don't care a button if you are a Christian... in your last two posts you explicitly tried to exonerate The Nazis from any blame. That's a bloody strange thing for a Christian to try and do.
USERNAMEfieldempty 1 week ago
@ochick1 How dare you! How dare you presume to forgive the Nazis for the crimes they inflicted upon other people! To hell with the judgment of God. Where was God when all the suffering was taking place and where is he now? If he doesnt show an interest in what his "creatures" are up to we just have to deal with things ourselves.Go and do your "job" elsewhere you sanctimonious waste of oxygen! You cant forgive on behalf of other people and only a Christian would have the gall to try.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Instead of "forgiving" it would have been helpful if Christian churches had stood up for the Jews in the war. Most were happy to turn a blind eye. There were some brave exceptions but not many. The record of Christianity v the Jews is a bloody disgrace. They should be asking forgiveness for themselves not for the Nazis.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 ALso just cos areas of the catholic church didnt help dosent mean all churchs did nothing. My own church donated money to Hungarian jews so they could move to the UK befor the war got out of hand.
ochick1 6 days ago
@ochick1 I accept that. That is why I said "most". I realise that many were in ignorance of the events and probably none knew the full scale of the horrors.I avoided singling out the Catholic Church because I didnt want to imply that they were the only religious group that gave comfort to the Nazis. But the Catholic Church has a particularly heavy burden of responsibility. Although, once again, there were Catholics who did what they could to assist the Jews.
mikelheron20 6 days ago
@mikelheron20 Gods last act in interfearing with life was with noah. And he showed the rainbow in they sky to show that he was sorry for his actions and never do it again. Life is short but it God its for ever. These mean in our short time in life its our duty to be servents of lord god. There is no going forward if people keep bitch about whos worse in each war. All war is wornge. Its up to us to learn form all the mistakes but also forgive and to forget.
ochick1 6 days ago
@ochick1 You are fully entitled to forgive people who wrong you. But you are not entitled to forgive people who wrong others. That is the privilege of the victim and belongs to no one else. We all agree that war is wrong and that we should learn from our mistakes. Well then lets learn - and we wont do that by forgetting the lessons from the past or by minimising them. Are you saying that God apologised for the flood? Ive heard it all now. That he regretted it? For an omnipotent
mikelheron20 6 days ago
@mikelheron20 omniscient and omni-everything else being he didnt show much foresight then did he? By the way, he only said he wouldnt destroy the world by flooding again - so dont cancel your fire insurance just yet. Mind you, youre probably not covered for "acts of God" anyway.
mikelheron20 6 days ago
@mikelheron20 The act of showing noah and the people the rainbow is debated as god feeling the need to give us a gift. The only reson for this gift would be to show is apology for what he has done so that the people of earth (It never realy says all the earth was flooded) could trust him. Some desisions are hard to make even when it is a posative. So even though God had every right to do it its still best to apologise.
ochick1 6 days ago
@ochick1 Lloyd George also considered Hitler the saviour of Germany. So we neednt attach too much importance to his judgment need we?
mikelheron20 6 days ago
@mikelheron20 Lloyd George is greatest man in British history. He gave the bigest steps into a true democracy and helped the poor out of the cycle of poverty. In 1936 he spent alot of time in Germany going over with Hitler the idea of National Socialism which was inline with his own beliefs of helping the poor. He also talked to lots of random Germans to see there opinion which they all were happy to finaly have hope in there lives.
ochick1 6 days ago
@mikelheron20 Any way we cant reach an agreement so lets leave it. This video dosent even show us anything. The one were he is being interviewed atleast shows us somthing.
ochick1 6 days ago
@ochick1 Yeah God save their shoes, you illiterate moron.
Ever heard of Coventry or the Blitz? THAT came first, not Dresden. The reason Churchill was criticised for Dresden was that it was revenge. Calling Dresden a holocaust is a bit like saying its the same as gassing 6 million Jews. Or that Germany's bombing campaign of Britain was a holocaust, which I'm sure you wouldn't dream of saying, right?
DominionOfTheSword 6 days ago
@DominionOfTheSword As i said in one of the comments. The UK were the first ones to bomb citys due to German air defences being to stornge in military areas. In Dresden more children died then the whole of ww2 (including the holocaust) and ww1 put togther. This was because the children that were in hiding in the country were evacuated to dresden as the Russian army was pushing in from the east. So yes that is the same as killing jews which have not commited a crime.
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@ochick1 "In Dresden more children died then the whole of ww2 (including the holocaust) and ww1 put togther"
Actually, not true: in Dresden, more children died than were ever born in the entire human history! Please keep your facts straight.
lrevzin 6 days ago
@JumalanMyrsky Yeah he was really great. Didn't end too well for him and most of Europe though did it?
Hmm, maybe that original theory maybe wrong then. Maybe he was the worst human in all of history, and maybe you are just the greatest twat in Finland
DominionOfTheSword 6 days ago
god bless hitler!
respect from native american apache in the mountain! i've traveled and seen first hand the lies and terrorism of the zionist "jew," fuck them in my rez we eradicate them and their usurping businesses too!!!!
scorpian8king 1 week ago
It is fashionable to say "Theyre all as bad as each other." or "There was wrong on both sides." The second statement is true - the first is not. There are degrees of evil. It is just lazy thinking not to differentiate. Saying that the Nazis were worse is simply a statement of fact and doesnt exonerate other nations from war crimes. The stage on from "They were no worse than anyone else" becomes "They were good guys really." No they werent. They were evil murdering scum and we mustnt forget it.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Are you now talking about the 7th cavalry because it sounds about right?
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth I am not an expert on this period of American history and I know that there is a great deal of misinformation, courtesy of Hollywood. I dont feel competent to comment on it to any great degree. My original point - and I hold to it - is that while US governments undoubtedly have a great deal to answer for in their treatment of various ethnic groups there has never been (to my knowledge) a policy of ethnic cleansing or genocide - unlike Nazi Germany.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 ....but the successful ethnic cleansing of the red Indian was US government policy. Which was why no bastard was ever hung for the crime. The same US government have a lot to answer for the covert overthrowing of many foriegn governments ..... but thats another whole different ball game.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth Well, just as you appear to be sceptical about the Holocaust (in the face of overwhelming evidence: photographs, films, eyewitness accounts, scrupulously maintained records, testimony of prison guards, artifacts, confessions and boasts by war criminals and the testimony of the survivors) I remain sceptical of your claims that are not supported with anything like the same weight of evidence. You will no doubt take this as further proof of naivety or bias.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 So be it. I will just comment on one point since it concerns my own country. Yes, the British invented the concentration camp in the Boer War.To compare them with Dachau, Belsen, Treblinka, Auschwitz etc. is absurd and leaves you wide open to the charge of extreme naivety.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Ah possibly the most racist country ever. Well besides the fact there is now a sign at Dachau proclaiming there was NEVER any gassings or even was it a death camp at least shows how mud sticks and just how those liberating bastards could lie. Don't think the British were angels before their camp invention. There is a plaque in New York in rememberance to the 55,000 Americans who died on prison ships from torture disease and starvation during the American Revolution.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
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@mikelheron20 Ah possibly the most racist country ever. Well besides the fact there is now a sign at Dachau proclaiming there was NEVER any gassings or even was it a death camp at least shows how mud sticks and just how those liberating bastards could lie. Don't think the British were angels before their camp invention. There is a plaque in New York in rememberance to the 55,000 Americans who died on prison ships from torture disease and starvation during the American Revolution.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 When the Spanish Armarda was defeated only the British could leave their seamen at sea to eventually die so not to pay them their well earned wages lol Only the righteous high moral British lol I have to hand it to them!
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mikelheron20 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth Im sure youve heard of Godwins Law. It says that your internet opponent has lost the argument when he starts bringing the Nazis into it. Ive got a new one. Its called Mikes Law and says: Your opponent is really fucked when he starts dragging the Spanish Armada into the discussion. Thanks for giving me a good laugh. I spat my coffee when I read your comment. Im sending it to my friends. They could do with a good laugh too. Thanks again.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Well while your laughing, anytime you need proof let me know. I was explaining the ruthlessness that the British are capeable of. The same ruthlessness needed for an an Island smaller then Texas to rule over 2/3 of the world. I once had a similar debate and the guy turned round and said,"At least the British Empire wasn't as cruel all the others." I can assure you I laughed louder and longer than you.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 No, the British did not invent concentration camps in the Boer War. Americans used them to 'pacify the natives' in the Philippines after they conquered them, and earlier, in the 1830s and 40s, in their own country for the same purpose.
Oswulf1 1 week ago
@Oswulf1 If you say so. But it doesnt really matter who invented them, does it? The point is that comparing the Nazi extermination camps (lets call them that to avoid confusion) with what were essentially internment camps is fatuous.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Good point.
Oswulf1 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 I honestly believe you know nothing of the Boer war. Burning down every household and imprisoning every Boer including women and children. Having them rot to die by starvation and disease. Then after home political pressure finally shipping off any remaining survivors to a far off British South Atlantic Island colony to complete the job. THIS IS WHAT I CALL EXTERMINATION.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 "My claims are not supported lol Unfortunately for you 90% of your case was debunked at the Earnst Zundell trial in Canada in the late 80's or early 90's. The chief Jewish witness didn't bother turning up for the re-trial as he committed purjury in the 1st. No I have no fear of the outcome with a proper investigating of the Holocaust but obviously some on your side of the fence do.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
Old war propaganda dies slow!
Bommelmensch 1 week ago
Great, congratulations. I did a research about it. It's true. One day the truth will be known for all the humankind.
rubensbragg 1 week ago
god bless hitler:-) didn't mr owens say hitler saluted him:-)
buckodcelt 1 week ago
Jesse Owens was my great-uncle and it's amazing to see that he's still relevant. My family would be very proud to have been a pillar in "African American" history, if there is such a thing. Nice vid. Much love from Detroit, Murder City.
wuggysback 1 week ago
@wuggysback
Yes, and Nelson Mandela is my grandfather. I am very proud of him too.
sharkybrown109 1 week ago
@wuggysback Your great uncle was a fine man. You should be proud of him. I heard a recording of he and his sister on the BBC saying he was treated well by Hitler, and an historian admitting Jessie was being used for propaganda purposes
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@Joni45654 I don't blame you, people should behave a lot more maturely!
movietheaterpoet 1 week ago
Hitler was a smart man if you read books you would understand but that doesn't not make him into a lunatic. he wanted revenge and he got Germany at a perfect time when they were unstable and mad. Lots of Germans did not even want Hitler. He lied and convinced people to believe him using excuses like Poland attacked them first at the end of the day he was crazy all he wanted was a white ariyon nation and nothing good come out of that.
bobdivet 1 week ago
@bobdivet rubbish
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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SO MUCH FOR THE SO-CALLED SUPERIOR ARYAN RACE!..........LOL!!!
emarkham84 1 week ago
@emarkham84 So much for unintelligent replies lol GERMANY WON MORE GOLD MEDALS THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY. Try educating yourself.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
That little rat-faced Goebbels sitting next to Hitler was one of the worst, him and his freak-zombie wife....
Ca1861 1 week ago
For those who can't lip-read German, on seeing Jesse bust that 100m dash, Hitler vowed "Verdammt, Ich vill blitz zis neue VorldRekord" ... which he did, in 1939, by racing a similar distance across the Polish border in 9 seconds flat! Owens, in recognition of the superior athlete, then gave all his gold medals back to Onkel Adolph and promised to never again sass the White Man.
YankeeThievesGoHome 1 week ago
Germany treated Jesse better than the USA ever did. Roosevelt wouldn't meet him on his return and he was left to race horses to earn a living for a novelty. Stop using the race card it makes the US look stupid. Jesse Owen wasn't even allowed to use a whiteman's rest room and things didn't improve by the 60's when Cassius Clay dumped his gold medal when he was refused a meal in a restaurant. Add to that the previous wiping out of the red indians and the US have no moral grounds for arguement.
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@deephiddentruth yes that is true
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 why?
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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@deephiddentruth yes you are correct. The BBC has admitted the propaganda campaign againstHitler using an unsuspecting Owens
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@alanbstard4 Thank you.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth a pleasure
alanbstard4 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth All of that may be true, but it is ridiculous to compare American racism with that of Nazi Germany.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Oh really why is that then. Maybe you think the annailation of the Red Indians does not count or the enslaving , hanging, burning, raping negroes was just a "phase". lol Whether the German Reich actually commited the holocaust or not (which is still up for debate except for fear of imprisonment) it was only around for 12 years. America has over 300 years of blood on it's hands. I would like to know what your grounds for uncomparability.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth I have been as outspoken as anyone on Americas civil and human rights record. But never in the history of the USA was there an avowed policy of genocide. Americas treatment of Native Americans was a shameful part of its history - its treatment of negroes also. But neither come close to the barbaric, systematised murder of the Jews. I know in this age of moral relativism everyone is deemed as bad as everyone else but it is simply untrue.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 I guess you are not a Red Indian or a black American as somehow I don't think they will share your view of minimizing their treatment. I never heard of a jew having the children taken away and had " the indian" beaten out of them or hung from a tree burning. How about Korean, Vietnamese, Arab and Afghan civilians for good measure as my god the US have systematically killed millions of those since 1945.Could you tell me what part of the 300 odd years of the US that are not shameful?
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth You have missed my point. It was not my intention to minimise the terrible things you mention and if I have given that impression I apologise unreservedly. The difference is that while these things happened they were not a matter of national policy. They were actions conducted by wicked individuals. Atrocities occur in warfare and are despicable but- to my knowledge - they have not been sanctioned by the US government. I know you will quote carpet bombing
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 in Vietnam and many other acts carried out in war and I would not sek to defend them. I regard the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as indefensible no matter how much they shortened the war. But the Nazis, uniquely, as a matter of national policy systematically, coldly and efficiently set out to exterminate, in the most brutal way, an entire race and anyone who did not match their warped view of racial, physical, mental perfection. And the USA never did that.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 What about the native American Indians? Was that not genocide?
codalisa007 1 week ago
@codalisa007 Are you saying that it was ever the policy of any US government to exterminate native Americans? Chief Joseph of the Nez Perces said "They made us many promises but they only kept one. They promised to take our land and they did." And he was right. What the US (I am from the UK by the way) did was indefensible. But they didnt round up native Americans - put them in camps and exterminate them. Or do you have information that they did? If so, I have never seen it.
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mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 It is obvious by the naivety of your answers on the red indian debate you are truely unaware of the full horrors unleashed on women and children by the US army. That does not make you a bad person as the Red indian history has been swept out of sight. However what you are actually saying whether you realise it or not is that the life of a Jew is worth more than a red indian. Maybe for some enlightenment U tube Massacre at wounded knee coincidently the same year Hitler was born.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth That is a very silly and unfair thing to say. I have admitted that I am no expert in these matters. Are you? I have a decent laymans knowldge of the history of Native Americans and their treatment at the hands of the US government,and the army. I have read may of the standard works on the subject but I realise that doesnt qualify me as an expert. Neither does it make me naive. I certainly do not regard any man, woman or child's life as more or less valuable
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 than that of another and I dislike this sort of argument because it inevitably gives that impression - especially when people are looking for signs of prejudice and bias. So let me ask you a straightforward, simple question. Do you consider the scale of the atrocities against the Native Americans to be comparable to those inflicted upon the Jews. Incidentally, I have read "Bury my heart at wounded knee" (as well as a number of other books about Native American
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@mikelheron20 All I am saying is the Allies have no moral grounds to judge the Third Reich. They themselves committed attrocities in WW2. Historically America are guilty of genocide as are the British who even invented the concentration camps they have tried to dump on Hitler. The propganda used on Hitler and the Germans by these evil bastards is a perpetual daily exercise on TV and the media. They have no moral right especially on the word of a mass killer and liar like Stalin to judge anyone.
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@mikelheron20 history. I said I was not an expert - not that I was ignorant or uninformed. (Note to self: dont be so modest in future). I have also watched (before you mentioned it) the Utube video. In fact, it paints a rather watered down version of events compared to Dee Browns.
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 My answer is: What happened to the Red Indian far outwieghs what happened to the Jews. The Jews were allowed to leave with all their wealth ( Transfer agreement) War broke out and enemies of the state (not just Jews) were placed in camps just as in the US. There is no doubt prisoners were shot but systematic gassings, soap, lampshades pure propaganda.As for the Red Indians plight? I have never heard of scalping, using tits for tobacco, dancing around with mutilated arms and legs.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth The Jews were not going around and scalping people, raping in mass, steal kids and women to be slaves and well being Indians.
GlenRoSSe69 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Well the fact that you do seem aware of such massacres by the US military throughout the hundreds of years of persucution of the red indian surprises me. To take away a man's land and freedom and place him in a concentration camp, not as a war time inconvienance but for the rest of his LIFE certainly does not give anyone the moral right to critise the Third Riech. Especially when there is now more than enough evidence to debunk the gassings to warrant a public debate/investigation.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth Incredibly, you seem to be confusing concentration camps with POW camps. Jews werent sent there to live out the war - they were sent there to work as slaves and die. By contrast, Sitting Bull led his people to a reservation from which he was allowed to leave to join Bill Cody. Have you ever heard of a jew seeking out a concentration camp or being allowed to leave one - except as smoke pouring from a chimney?
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Well if you knew anything about cremation there is never any smoke pouring from a chimney. That is exactly the Hollywood myth I am talking about. As for Sitting Bull he was just one example who could leave to make a certain white man rich. Do you think he would be allowed to lead his tribe off? The Jews were sent to work as in any POW camp they even had a swimming pool in Auschwitz. .
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
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Why do you think none of the accused people either working in the camps or giving orders to them claimed there was no gassing? Frank, Hoess, Eichmann and so many others. And why didn't the producers of Zyklon B negate production and delivery and the authenticity of documents showing it, if they had to fear death if convicted?
silverbud 1 week ago
@silverbud There has been a question mark over how "confessions" were extracted. Also the threat to their familes if they did not comply. The documentary "Cole in Auschwitz" where David Cole a jew actually gets an interview with the guy in charge who openly admits to "alterations to the camp" after the war by the Soviets. The chimney they built is not even attached to any building. Blue Zyclon B stains left in the delousing room is clearly not visible in the so called gas chamber. All on U tube.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@mikelheron20
Just adding information. Yes, some managed to leave. With the help of money and friends. Especially, when they were in Germany and not yet in Poland.
In Poolen war man verlooren!
silverbud 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 there was not a systematic murder of Jews
alanbstard4 1 week ago
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MarioBrosClassic 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 Nazi Germany actually had good ties with Latin America also
mexivato210 1 week ago
@mexivato210 Of course it did. Why do you think so many Nazi war criminals fled to Argentina? What about it?
mikelheron20 1 week ago
@mikelheron20 nothing im just agree with your previous statement, didnt think you where gonna be a smart ass about it
mexivato210 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth you are comparing apples and oranges....
lilbeaveymac 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth How many german black folks do you think existed at the time? All the nazis combined and there could have been more racists in the USA, why? Take a look at the size difference in land. Hitler fancied himself a scholar, outstanding individuals intrigued him, does that make him a good person? No, what is your point? I probably shouldn't have to remind you how many africans the nazis killed.
CommunistCookie 1 week ago
@CommunistCookie The reason there were not many blacks in Germany was because they hadn't shipped them in by the millions as slaves like the US did you idiot. Would you like me to completely obliterate your arguement by showing you Africans in German uniform and Muslims fighting for Hitler you ill informed communist cookie?
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth im sorry but you use the word "US" 2 arbitrarily
MarioBrosClassic 1 week ago
@MarioBrosClassic Well I'm not sorry. Every word about the US I said is true and you know it.
deephiddentruth 1 week ago
@deephiddentruth ya FDR had the whole US team come to the white house - all BUT Jesse. the Klan told him that if Jesse showed up that they would drop their support for him. FDR could not hold the southern vote without the Klan. And in NS Germany Jesse sat in the front of the bus for the first time in his LIFE.
GlenRoSSe69 1 week ago
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What was his reaktion? I not see or heard a reaktion! Should he be happy that another Nation Black or White win a Game? Is Obama happy when the germans or the french win?
Realgeld 1 week ago
jesse owens i like what what heve done...ì´m german,but you are grear!!!!
beckiflo 1 week ago
I can't hear the announcer what's he saying?
tonyanthony8 1 week ago
@tonyanthony8 He said: "Damn! Look at that nigger go!"
Cobe1976 1 week ago
Thumbs up if you think, that usterboy is an assfucking racist cunt.
sharkybrown109 1 week ago
@sharkybrown109 lol you do you even know what racist is idiot. looks to me that you are the skinhead shit bag. go kill yourself.
usterdboy 1 week ago
Can someone tell me why the olympics were ever held in germany while this madman was in power?
toprookie 1 week ago
@toprookie well the Nazis on this form can tell "they wont accept reason so don't try to tell they are wrong". just read the comments below.
usterdboy 1 week ago
@toprookie well it was all part of the chamberlain "appeasement" policy , but in the end it was just a plan against the U.S.S.R. That plan went wrong tho, hitler was taking advantage from the anticomunist countries world wide (after all he was even taking advantage of the anticomunist people of germany).
loko5555 1 week ago
@loko5555 thanks for the knowledge . i love learning about anything that has to do with world war 2.
toprookie 1 week ago
@toprookie
exulanten (.) com/hell
u love to learn? Here's a good link.
Or read Books for example The Nemesis of Potsdam.(R.Zayas)
or Hard core Thinks like Eye on Eye (John Sack)
spoekenkieker1 1 week ago
@spoekenkieker1 Thanks. I'll try to find them at the library.
toprookie 1 week ago
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@toprookie
The same reason they were held in China last time. China has a bad history of human rights violations.
Most people don't know that Hitler was "TImes Magazine" man of the year back then. He was being pushed by the establishment. Just like Obama is today.
Its only after they lost control of Hitler they turned on him and scapegoated him.
1HelpingMany 1 week ago