Obama speech on race(Part 4 of 4)-3/18/2008

[San47di]

Anyone not progressively moved by this entire speech, has a hole in their soul.

[Srhandel]

There is a new Rev. Wright controversy, he said in some magazine that Jesus' crucifixion was a "lynching Italian style". Obama is a clueless idiot sitting in this church for 20 years listening to this racist pastor spew his hate. Also, his health care plan will bankrupt us. His socialistic programs will cost over $3 trillion. The equivalent of 3 1/2 Iraq wars. I will not be voting for Obama he will divide this country like he has divided the Democrat party.

[XYZJuli1512007]

i dont give a shit about jesus, god, angles and all this bible propaganda. i dont need this to be moral. stay free!

[airrunwesker]

Darwin would, somwehat, disagree. "A man's friendships are one of the best measures of his worth".

[dehbee]

i agree, a true good and moral person will do good and moral deeds without anyone, any being telling them to be good and moral.

[warlordnipple]

Well more people say that you have to believe in Jesus and do good works and they have said it for longer and if your really believe in Jesus it would be impossible to not do good works. So just accepting Christ as your savior is not really enough to get you into heaven. It is also not a "way" into the kingdom the kingdom is all around us hell is not a specific place it is just the absence of God.

[lanainfla]

The only way into the Kingdom is through Jesus Christ. Any other path will lead you nowhere. Nowhere is Hell. Does not matter your traditions as long as Jesus is your accepted savior who died on the cross for your sins. It's the truth.

[SugarSean1981]

"Rather than going to church, I attend a sweat lodge; rather than accepting bread and toast [sic] from the Holy Priest, I smoke a ceremonial pipe to come into Communion with the Great Spirit; and rather than kneeling with my hands placed together in prayer, I let sweet grass be feathered over my entire being for spiritual cleansing and allow the smoke to carry my prayers into the heavens. I am a Mi'kmaq, and this is how we pray." Noah Augustine, from his article "Grandfather

[lanainfla]

Jesus is your personal savior by whom entrance into the Kingdom is the only way. Today, on Good Friday, we reflect on the massive suffering Jesus took upon himself. The suffered sum of all the sins of humanity past present and future. That means the sins of all the inequities commited by all individuals concentrated on Him that day on the cross - just so sinners like you and me and everyone will have eternal life. We must accept him to be saved from hell

[lanainfla]

As I have said - frellthat ....the more I read your propaganda the more I believe you are on the side of Satan. Abortion is murder

[lanainfla]

frellthat ...you are meaningless. The definition of Liberalism has been totally re-defined by the democrats. Don't give me your webster dictionary bullshit, the dems/so called liberals are destroying the very fabric of our nation:

Abortion

Homosexuality

Anti Patriot Act

Pro Obama

Surrender and Run

Planned Parenthood

Weak on Military

and most of all the democrats ranks are filled with anti american skum like you.

In the total picture, You will never win,

[lanainfla]

frellthat....yo are so stupid!

John McCain on Abortion: "I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world, because to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction.

Source: Speeches to 2008 Conservative Political Conference

frellthat....fret this - you liberals arte very skum of the earth, liars baby murderers, gay supporters, anti american sickos that should create your own country on a different planet.

[lanainfla]

frellthat ....the more I read your propaganda the more I believe you are on the side of Satan. Abortion is murder

[lanainfla]

durchar..... Liberalism is a disease and you are spreading it! Obama revealed himself as a fraud (which he is) but you are not honest enough to see it.

Liberalism is a disease and you are spreading it!

[frellthat]

From Webster's Dictionary:

Liberalism: a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

If liberalism is a disease, I'm HAPPY to spread it.

[amariner5]

The fight to make abortion unthinkable SHOULD be Obama's too. Abortion kills. Most abortions are the result of care-less sex, that wasn't rape or incest.  Just regular old sex. The punishment is death for the unborn. Can you not see the injustice there?

[frellthat]

You're going to get a pro-choice candidate whether you vote for Obama or McCain. McCain is just betting that you evangelicals are easily duped and so throws you one or two rhetorical bones from time to time just to get your votes. But he's never been a pro-life candidate.

So this whole discussion on abortion is meaningless. Abortion is not an issue in this election.

It kills me how you fundies can respect the lives of embryos, yet vote for candidates who will drop bombs on children.

[amariner5]

What makes you think I am a "fundie" or that I support "bombing children"? There is a lie that you bought into, that all democrats have to be pro-abortion and anti-religion, or that repuplican are all church-going warmongers.

Abortion is never "meaningless " and just imagine the courage it would take for a DEMOCRAT to stand up for the last group of humans that have no rights.

Flellthat, you shouldn't jump to conclusions about anyone. That is why said make abortion UNTHINKABLE, not illeagal.

[frellthat]

"What makes you think I am a "fundie" or that I support "bombing children"?"

Because of the fundie talking points you're using. There is no organized opposition to abortion that doesn't come from religious sources, and the only reason religious authorities oppose it is because they have to because of their silly dogmas about the soul.

[2007xyzzy]

"There is no organized opposition to abortion that doesn't come from religious sources"

Wow, Frellthat, you sure can dish out absolutes. Unfortunately, you are wrong (as with almost(?) all absolutes).

Just take a look (even via ultrasound) -- there is a discernible head and heartbeat at just eight weeks! That is life, human life. This relies only on _science_.

Remember sweeping generalizations only reflect on your own level of education of a matter.

[frellthat]

Terry Schiavo had a discernable head and heartbeat as well. That doesn't make her alive in a human sense.

What I said was that there is no organized opposition to abortion that doesn't come from religious sources, and that was correct. The only groups who oppose this are religious groups, and only the most fundamentalist of them. It's driven entirely by dogma.

[amariner5]

"Silly dogmas" Personal attack? ok, whatever, I examine my beliefs and question what I read, hear, say and write. I try to be accurate and concise. My opposition to abortion isn't for dogma, it for science. Have you questioned what makes you human? What is a human, and when does life begin? Just because we might not be able to prove exactly when cell matter is human, should arbitrarly end what may or may not be life? If something is alive, and human, is their life worth less than mine or yours?

[gjohnson87109]

Thank you barack for not being a coward. Thank you for giving me and my son hope for this new America that I see on the horizion for us all. The World is watching and they too are hoping for a change. No more idiots and theives. No more dividers. NO FEAR! NO MORE!

[jacksonnicolem]

oh my goodeness...you know most of these people who are sooooo against abortion probably think capital punishment is ok!

[yournightmare000]

abortion is not the main problem right now, you people are just looking for an excuse to turn your back on the truth and on what´s important.

that was a great speech and one of the most important speeches on the history of humanity.

[lanainfla]

DCUPtoejuice .....More like Liar on Fire

[lanainfla]

And he preaches hope.....hmmmmm, hope for the murdered butchered aborted babies.....I think not!

Obama....King of Abortion.....King of Liars. And there is MUCH, MUCH M O R E !!!!!!

[frellthat]

An embryo is not a baby.  That's why we have different words to describe them.

[lanainfla]

Obama the liar: Watch an Alan Keyes video on abortion instead of concentrating on the Obama fraud. In fact watch the Keyes/Obama debate on abortion. You know, reaching inside a woman's womb and cutting off a babies life is even WORSE than murder.

Obama as state senator stood firm on allowing born babies as a result of botched late term abortions to die, even though they were breathing and funtioning on their own. Obama is a cold blooded FRAUD!

[PenaltyKillah]

Obama may support abortion, but Alan Keyes made illogical prejudicial remarks about lesbians related to incest... in the Senate debate.

[lanainfla]

But you liberals don't think abortion is a deadly sin and point to Iraq to change the subject. Honestly....you folks are sick!

[PenaltyKillah]

Do you suggest any prevention/alternative methods for accidental/unplanned pregnancies, instead of playing a game of the pointing fingers? If only we all put our minds together to debate, negotiate, and brainstorm... The clashing of philosophies is just an excuse for those who aren't really concerned about their own society.

[lanainfla]

Yes, Liar: He talks about Hope but slashes all hope for murdered American babies. Watch an Alan Keyes video on abortion instead of concentrating on the Obama fraud. In fact, watch the Keyes/Obama debate on abortion. You know, reaching inside a woman's womb and cutting off a babies life - MURDER! Obama as state senator stood firm on allowing born babies as a result of botched late term abortions to die, even though they were breathing and funtioning on their own. Obama is a cold blooded FRAUD!

[lanainfla]

bostr1956 ...The list is forever that's why I say simply liar. Here's one: Obama wants racial equality, a country where little black and white children shall grow up together in peace and harmony. He sends such a loving and caring message, seemingly heartfelt and truly sincere. Why even Obama himself said that to know him is to love him. He brings hope and promise of change, of a new world of opportunties and great internal strides.

To be continued:

[DCUPtoejuice]

man on fire

[bostr1956]

Obama is the only chance offered by this election to bring America together into, as he said, "a more perfect union."  For the last 15 years, political divisiveness has grown out of control. Our problems cannot be resolved by those whose lifes and purported beliefs are inherently partisan.

[lanainfla]

Liar

[bostr1956]

What an erudite, eloquent response. Just what do you regard as a lie? Demogogues use simplistic responses like "liar." What Obama said was true. Race has been a problem by and against all races. It's time to face this issue squarely and work to improve. I would like to see lanainfla explain what "lies" he or she observed. I doubt that he or she is able to do so. He or she is part of the problem, not the solution.

[bgearldwlu82]

What a joke don't run from the issues

[ShortBrainTV]

Bless you and I hope you win. I hope for all of us that you win.