1080 works but it does not get 100% so if the nz tax payer wonts to keep paying . doc should consentrate on the smaller reserves and off shore island and possum can be controled throught trapping since there is a fur trade back . i trap a few in the tararuas and see tui fantails woodpeigeon as for farms boundary poison bait station work well. some pro 1080 dont care about the conservation they just profit from the contracts etc at the taxpayers expence , trappers cost the taxper nothing.
@MrNgm12345 raelly bring on 1080 are you aware of how long those creatures have ben on this planet and hve lived together just fine its the human population that is killin them of not the other animales and nothin i mean nothin deserves to die the way they do for fuck sakes murders rapist child molesters get a better death then these innocent animales you say on bring 1080 i say you deseevre a bullet in your heartless head
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It disturbs me very much when today people can use a poison like 1080 indiscriminantly causing such wide spread suffering among wild animals and domesticated too , and especially dogs its sheer lunacy . PLEASE BAN THIS CRUEL SUBSTANCE ( 1080 ) FOR GOOD OF EVERY LIVING CREATURE AND MANKIND !
The people who allowed this in the first instance should be shot . What a total disgrace from a dept of Conservation, GOD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY NO NOT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE !
According to my book of Extinct NZ birds, written by Alan Tennyson the main causes of bird extinction in NZ are, in order, Humans, Rats and dare I mention it, the sacred NZ cat. The Possum, that gets all the attention is at the bottom of the list (14th),DOC tells us that 1080 doesn't affect these 3(wtf?)How do they expect us to believe anything they say. It is time DOC got its shit together and stop telling porkies. And why have they taken the water warning of the 1080 poison signs?
The Department of Conservation is a disgrace, and the heads of the Dept who allow this crime on New Zealand's environment to continue should be ashamed of themselves.
@jl121982 Anyone who really thinks that using 1080 in New Zealand is a smart thing, needs a reality check. It is a deadly poison! It doesn't just kill animals. it leaches into the soils, the rivers and the land in general. Your land! Your children's land and so on! For heavens sake we are s***ing in our own backyard. Wake up you people. Do the math. To suggest there is no better way to deal with pests is ignorant.
well #1 is that it kills every thing and the anything thats come it contact with that animal
#2 I pig hunt with a pack of dogs and if they bite into a possum or a pig that has been poisoned with 1080 then there is a very high risk that they will be poisoned and as a hunter to have to shoot a dog to put a dog out of its misery that you have trained up from a pup and spent time with that dog every day for years is not something you ever want to have to do.
Ok good points thank you. Emotions run high on both sides of this debate so it is hard to get really good information but this really helped so once again thank you.
Oh, and if anyone else has more to add it would be great :)
In 1999 it was estimated that there were, give or take a few, 60 million possums in N.Z.
Half a billion dollars and with a reported 90% kill rate there is an estimated 70 million possums in N.Z. in 2009 I'm not a mathematician but something aint right here. I don't know what the answer to this problem is but I don't think this is it.
It disturbs me to see animals dying this way and it upsets me to have to keep my animals shut away all day.But I have no other choice.I can't allow them their freedom anymore when 1080 is dumped on my door step
whats funny is the Public Relations series that was put out- you guys see that crap on saving the Whales - where a bunch of idiots get on a boat go after some fishers- if it were a real activist group it would just cut the sea nets - but I guess that not entertaining lol- Boooo Boooo Propaganda
Who's accountable? Who's respinsible? Who needs to be taken out and flogged to death? If the masses had ANY intelligence whatsoever, we wouldn't even be dealing with this sickening crap. If they had ANY spine or balls whatsoever, the perps would be hung or locked up forever. But...we'll just let all the animals get mass murdered, while we watch britany and rhianna. *barf*
Surely this is a case for the SPCA??? I just cant understand how its happening in this country!!!!! DOC needs to be put befor a court and asked some serious questions.
DOC NZ should understand,10-80 is just not the way!!!!!! issue more hunting permit may be better!!!!! preserving the nz bush has nothing to do with eliminating the whole wild animal population. plus the population of animals is far from getting out of hand!!!!!!!!! DISGRACE!!!!!
it is understandable if deer are in plague propportions to be culled but this is a fukin disgrace not just at the waste of good venison but the suffering of the beast, hunters are the best control method
1080 works but it does not get 100% so if the nz tax payer wonts to keep paying . doc should consentrate on the smaller reserves and off shore island and possum can be controled throught trapping since there is a fur trade back . i trap a few in the tararuas and see tui fantails woodpeigeon as for farms boundary poison bait station work well. some pro 1080 dont care about the conservation they just profit from the contracts etc at the taxpayers expence , trappers cost the taxper nothing.
9stafford9 6 months ago
@MrNgm12345 raelly bring on 1080 are you aware of how long those creatures have ben on this planet and hve lived together just fine its the human population that is killin them of not the other animales and nothin i mean nothin deserves to die the way they do for fuck sakes murders rapist child molesters get a better death then these innocent animales you say on bring 1080 i say you deseevre a bullet in your heartless head
sntlaw 1 year ago
I wonder what the birds would say about 1080?
ispytrout 1 year ago
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It disturbs me very much when today people can use a poison like 1080 indiscriminantly causing such wide spread suffering among wild animals and domesticated too , and especially dogs its sheer lunacy . PLEASE BAN THIS CRUEL SUBSTANCE ( 1080 ) FOR GOOD OF EVERY LIVING CREATURE AND MANKIND !
The people who allowed this in the first instance should be shot . What a total disgrace from a dept of Conservation, GOD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY NO NOT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE !
1953longrangesniper 1 year ago
According to my book of Extinct NZ birds, written by Alan Tennyson the main causes of bird extinction in NZ are, in order, Humans, Rats and dare I mention it, the sacred NZ cat. The Possum, that gets all the attention is at the bottom of the list (14th),DOC tells us that 1080 doesn't affect these 3(wtf?)How do they expect us to believe anything they say. It is time DOC got its shit together and stop telling porkies. And why have they taken the water warning of the 1080 poison signs?
waiotahi52 2 years ago
The Department of Conservation is a disgrace, and the heads of the Dept who allow this crime on New Zealand's environment to continue should be ashamed of themselves.
primecreator 2 years ago
@primecreator : since when rats, possums, deers and chamoix are NZ willife? They're all introduced pests
jl121982 1 year ago 2
@jl121982 Anyone who really thinks that using 1080 in New Zealand is a smart thing, needs a reality check. It is a deadly poison! It doesn't just kill animals. it leaches into the soils, the rivers and the land in general. Your land! Your children's land and so on! For heavens sake we are s***ing in our own backyard. Wake up you people. Do the math. To suggest there is no better way to deal with pests is ignorant.
primecreator 1 year ago
I'm doing a school assigment and I am hoping people watching this can answer a few questions for me.
1. what are the biggest problems you have with 1080? and
2. What aspects of your life/personality do you think influenced you into disliking 1080 as a means of possum control?
contempgirl 2 years ago
well #1 is that it kills every thing and the anything thats come it contact with that animal
#2 I pig hunt with a pack of dogs and if they bite into a possum or a pig that has been poisoned with 1080 then there is a very high risk that they will be poisoned and as a hunter to have to shoot a dog to put a dog out of its misery that you have trained up from a pup and spent time with that dog every day for years is not something you ever want to have to do.
motoxstud371 2 years ago
Ok good points thank you. Emotions run high on both sides of this debate so it is hard to get really good information but this really helped so once again thank you.
Oh, and if anyone else has more to add it would be great :)
contempgirl 2 years ago
well done poisoning paradise is an excelent doco by grafboys and these clips just add to to the evidence.
Aoteabird 2 years ago
In 1999 it was estimated that there were, give or take a few, 60 million possums in N.Z.
Half a billion dollars and with a reported 90% kill rate there is an estimated 70 million possums in N.Z. in 2009 I'm not a mathematician but something aint right here. I don't know what the answer to this problem is but I don't think this is it.
waiotahi52 2 years ago
It disturbs me to see animals dying this way and it upsets me to have to keep my animals shut away all day.But I have no other choice.I can't allow them their freedom anymore when 1080 is dumped on my door step
phoebereeves 2 years ago
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cdubwestsyde 2 years ago
ya thats pretty much the good version- lol
whats funny is the Public Relations series that was put out- you guys see that crap on saving the Whales - where a bunch of idiots get on a boat go after some fishers- if it were a real activist group it would just cut the sea nets - but I guess that not entertaining lol- Boooo Boooo Propaganda
Iampolynesian 2 years ago
I'm so fucking mad i could shit eggrolls.
Who's accountable? Who's respinsible? Who needs to be taken out and flogged to death? If the masses had ANY intelligence whatsoever, we wouldn't even be dealing with this sickening crap. If they had ANY spine or balls whatsoever, the perps would be hung or locked up forever. But...we'll just let all the animals get mass murdered, while we watch britany and rhianna. *barf*
God help us!
SmilingWood 2 years ago
the ass hole who thought 1080 was a good idea should eat some
mikehahahawood 3 years ago
I thinking shhoting the deer ect is a MUCH better way,more humane and doesn't kill innocent pets
balto4 3 years ago
wow how do you get hold of that stuff
shaunh2770 3 years ago
Surely this is a case for the SPCA??? I just cant understand how its happening in this country!!!!! DOC needs to be put befor a court and asked some serious questions.
bassinvadernz 3 years ago
we know who should be dining for dinner with a plate of 1080.
bobbypossum 4 years ago
DOC NZ should understand,10-80 is just not the way!!!!!! issue more hunting permit may be better!!!!! preserving the nz bush has nothing to do with eliminating the whole wild animal population. plus the population of animals is far from getting out of hand!!!!!!!!! DISGRACE!!!!!
chenke721 4 years ago
it is understandable if deer are in plague propportions to be culled but this is a fukin disgrace not just at the waste of good venison but the suffering of the beast, hunters are the best control method
thehook86 4 years ago