Arghh~! Why don't you include the details as to why he was shot. Openly feminine, gay, great good for you! Why was the kid touching his genitals and groping other kids, and why did he publicly proclaim his love for a boy who clearly was not gay!? No, you guys don't get a pass for this, yea the kid shouldn't have been shot, but he could have avoided it if he didn't harass straight boys. Do you have any idea how creepy it is to be hit on by another guy?
Creepy enough to SHOOT him and KILL him? Real men should be man enough to tell him enough and report it, not kill him. If I was hit on by another girl I didn't like, that's what I would do too. Fucking asshole. Think too much about your pride and your dick.
Why is it that you do not mention whites as an example of groups of people who are victims of hate crime? Are you suffering from the liberal white guilt illusion that hate crimes against whites is not so much of a problem as the other way around?
It doesn't matter what color his skin was, Lawrence King was murdered because he was gay. He could have been black or white. Blacks have faced their own civil rights battle, but still face discrimination today just as gay people do, just as women do, people of different religons, etc.
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There not born gay . It a perverse. Im sick of you fuckin liberal fagots. We need to keep these fagots back in the closit. You keep letting them out bitch.,
dont make fun of him because he was open-minded...i have friends that r gay and i cant imagined them getting shot for being gay so if u have nothing nice to say just dont even talk @lgnrome
HAHAHA. I can't believe this kid. "God hates gays". No God is disgusted at the fact that his creation is caught up in this junk. Nice try kid. It will NEVER end. Gays WILL NOT be equal. Your race is not your sex. You being gay has nothing to do with your race or religion. Back in the 60s-70s this wasen't such an isssue because people had common sense. Being gay is not the way and is not ok. You can change!
Actually, in the 60s-70s this WAS an issue. It just wasn't as in the public eye. Family values changed to a point where being open about things such as whether or not you were sexually active and your sexual orientation was not only accepted, but expected. And where would you get the idea that God hates gays? If you believe in a God that hates, you might want to look around, pretty sure the people you're going to church with are Devil worshipers. God is Love, read your Bible.
You believe in the bible? Seriously? I don't usually criticize people who are religiously... But you believe in a book that was written thousands of years ago by PEOPLE? Not to mention the bible has been rewritten over and over throughout the years.
God doesn't exist. Get over yourself. If you don't like gays, that's fine. Keep your shit opinion to yourself, no one cares.
Everything you said is the truth, with the exception of the part about GOD. But yeah, gays are fighting a PRIDE filled, LUST DRIVEN, uphill battle that mother nature will NEVER allow them to win. Mother nature makes mistakes, and we have all been given instincts which tell us when something is not good for the tribe (populous). THIS is why gays are cast out and rejected by the MAJORITY of our society, it's only natural. Those of you who think you can defy mother nature will be RUDELY awakened.
Im gay myself, and I cringed when I heard this news about Lawrence, BUT, he wasnt shot ONLY because he was gay. I read all the articles online. Lawrence sexualy harrased and threw his gayness on guys who clearly told him they didnt like it and wanted him to stop and one boy took the wrong path and shot him. I hold the shooter completely accountable but Lawrence wasnt as innocent as we might think.
"the bible started it" lol wtf the bible wasn't the first abrahamic scripture written and pagan religons before that more then likely dissed gays.But anyway everyone deal with it we live in a fucked up world and if you haven't noticed it only gets worse. There is nothing we could ever do to change this. Thousands of families are slaughtered everyday in other countries but you stop to mourn for one little gay kid? typical. Guess what? Earth is pretty much hellish.
typical your an ass, I agree with what you said about the slaughtering of families for other countries but you didn't have to sound so ignorant about it...
PLEASE don't associate the BLACK struggle with the GAY struggle, black people are against "Gay rights" too. Gay is a choice, BLACK is a RACE, get it right or shut your mouth.
EVERYTHING in life is a choice, that is except for 2 things: Being BORN,& DIEING. What you do between those 2 involentary events are besically choices you make which are influenced by your environment/peers. If you have strength of character your parents/elders did a good job teaching you good values 2 bring forward in your life. If you let EVERYONE influence you, you will be dragged in several directions at once, & you will end up in turmoil. We ALWAYS have a choice to make. No right, No wrong.
I might be an asshole sometimes, but CLOSE MINDED? I really don't think so. I think it's funny how humans only want freewill to apply 2 CERTAIN areas of their lives, while attempting 2 ignore or disavow it's existance in ANY area of their lives that comes up to question by the greater majority of the population. I don't think homosexuality should be prohibited, but you can't tell others what to think about it's origins. Enjoy being gay if you want, I don't care, but you have STILL made a choice.
Alright and What The Fuck is wrong with you people, she is making a point. How about nice job on your video but I... and so on don't be an ass and just not even note you watch the whole video.
Nice job? For what? Stating the obvious? Come on now buddy, she doesn't deserve a medal for a silly YouTube video. It's a self-serving outlet, what is she really accomplishing besides garnering sympathy from people who are ALREADY crying fake crocodile tears for this tragedy. People LOVE tragedy almost as much as they love sex, you will never change that, all you are doing is wallowing in your OWN emotions about a situation you had NOTHING to do with. How about discussing a SOLUTION instead?
I guess you could say I chose the first time I learned about homosexuality. I learned about how some people like to date the same sex and sodomize each other (straight people too!! YUCK) and I guess I didn't even really have to give it more than a moment's thought before I realized that it didn't make ANY sense to me. If other people like to do it, then hey, I say go ahead, I don't dig people's weird fetishes either. Doesn't make me hate them though. Like I said we ALWAYS have a choice to make.
Must be hard going through life lacking the even simplest of braincell I mean let me see here you started this off by yelling about African Americans and then you seem to think everything is a choice, first of all that "When did I choose" thing was really stupid I mean all you proved was you are straight and that is it you didn't choose anything.
Well first of all let's get this back to a respectable tone, since you are suffering from misconceptions about my present attitude. I was never YELLING about African Americans, I just think it is unfair to lump blacks and gays in the same catagory concerning civil rights, and I'll tell you why: Reguardless of what the common gay perception is about choice, you DO have the choice concerning how people percieve YOU. In other words, if you don't want someone to think you are gay you can change it.
Black people wake up black (and usually proud of it), it doesn't matter what clothes we put on, who we go to bed with, where we work, what we do AFTER work, it doesn't matter if we cure cancer, it doesn't matter if we have the same blood type as someone who needs a transfusion, some people HATE us on SIGHT. It's not the same buddy, I get irritated when gay people try to stand side by side with us in an attempt to equate their struggle with ours, when they have CHOSEN their plight. TELL THE TRUTH
Anyway, the POINT is, nobody knows you are gay until you TELL them. Putting gays besides blacks in a civil rights struggle is INSULTING to many of us. Black people are NOT intrinsic friends of gay people, it's VERY important that people know and understand that. I have nothing PERSONALLY against gays, but I DO feel that it is unfair to equate the GAY rights struggle with the Black rights struggle. It's just how I feel about it, sorry if you don't like it.
Point being that people are Fucking stupid, thats the point I'm trying to get a crossed here. Do not blame them for deciding that since African Americans went through a struggle that, that might mean they could help them in their struggle.
People are fucking stupid, you're right about that, but like I said before, Black people owe NOTHING to Gays (unless they are gay themselves). So don't expect unconditional support for gay rights from blacks unless you want to have your (or their) feelings hurt. Black people have their OWN battles to fight, and thankfully they (the battles) have nothing to do with sodomy. Be gay if you want, there's nothing wrong with that, just don't implicate race issues in your fight for what you want.
she was just using it as an example of oppression, not "equating" it with the gay rights struggle. What i want to know though, is how does her comment affect you or anyone else in a negative way at all? jeeeeesus
Funny how long these comments stay up. Guess nobody else has anything interesting to say huh? Always in search of a new perspective on things aren't we? My previous comment illustrated pretty well my belief. Some people seem to think blacks and gays should walk hand in hand against oppression, I believe gay people almost LIKE oppression, because they welcome it into their lives in MANY forms. It's something to think about, being gay is cool with me, but is it REALLY worth the trouble?
First of all if you want to continue this, you can scrap the condescending attitude, I don't need you telling me to, "be clear". Gays have no REQUIREMENT to make public what their convictions/inclinations in the bedroom are, therefore it must be a voluntary act. They want ATTENTION just like every other human being, & they get it by REBELLING and DELIBRATELY doing things that are against the social norm. The fact that it is sexual only sweetens the deal for most. It's an ADDICTION born of ego.
The likely-hood of you being able to understand me or where I am coming from is slim if not nonexistent. So why bother? Some people just don't support homosexuality, I just don't feel it is something that should be encouraged in society. What GOOD is it? What BENEFIT do we reap as human beings by NOT discouraging it? There is NO benefit. I believe people should be able to do what they want, but I don't advocate casual sexual encounters (BAD IDEA), so WHY would I advocate SODOMY & LESBIANISM?
I disagree with you 100%. I think its extremely selfish to side with the people trying to forbid rights of gays and lesbians. Most already live through hell getting through the day, enduring hurtful comments and harrasement. And all they want is to marry the one they love, and have it LEGAL. What happened to the seperation of church and state? We are not a Christian nation, we are a FREE nation. Marriage is a government liscence, not one by the church. And homosexuality is completely NATURAL!
Everything we do as humans is NATURAL, how could any action taken by a being of this world be ANYTHING less? The point I am making is there is a system of checks & balances in place that keeps the herd maintained from a NATURAL perspective. This very system prohibits humanity as a whole from embracing our proclivities that do NOT benefit the survival of the species, & homosexuality is one of these proclivities. Mother Nature already knows how to manage this, & hatred is JUST as natural as LOVE.
First of all, i am not trying to understand where you're coming from (although i would enjoy knowing), but it seems that you wrote your comment up there for a reason, and it seems that you are trying to convince me. Well, you're not going to convince anyone with your theory that it's an act of "rebellion" or "attention seeking," which has no evidence of any sort. There have been studies of homosexuality, and none of them have found what you just said. In other words, it is bullshit. Sorry.
All studies conducted have been INCONCLUSIVE. I hope you understand that, check for yourself if you don't believe me. These type of circumstances don't offer the option of a quick and easy decision on either part. The truth is, Human Nature is Human Nature, meaning: As Human Beings we are an OCEAN of emotions that lead to a SEA of behavior, all is natural, however all is NOT necessarily beneficial. Resisting homosexuality as a culture is as natural as EMBRACING it. Don't believe me? WATCH & SEE.
i KNOW all studies have been inconclusive, that's why i can't accept this comment of yours: "They want ATTENTION just like every other human being, & they get it by REBELLING and DELIBRATELY doing things that are against the social norm. The fact that it is sexual only sweetens the deal for most. It's an ADDICTION born of ego."
You don't have to accept it, what you DO have to accept is the fact that the MAJORITY of the world's general population still rejects homosexual behavior. That's what YOU have to accept, and I am willing to bet that all the studies in the world will have little if no affect on that fact. I've told you where I stand, & I have no problem with gays either, just tell the truth about the world is all man. You can't change human nature.
Resisting homosexuality as a culture might be natural, but human beings have the capicity to learn to accept it (if you don't believe me, WATCH & SEE). And if you're asking yourself, "what good will that do? where is the benefit?" think about the violence directed at homosexuals, think of the alienation they face, and think of the things things that are denied to them, such as (in our culture) the benefits of marriage. If hsexuality were embraced by everyone, these problems would disappear
I didn't say they will disappear, i said "IF homosexuality were accepted" they WOULD. Pay attention.
"I don't think anyone really wants them to anyway." Wrong. Read the comments, and listen to the people on other videos about Lawrence King, and ask thousands of people, and you will see people want them to disappear. Not everyone's as apathetic as you.
Well then... Let the battle begin. All that is left is to see who winds up the winner. Funny thing is, really I am nothing more than a casual observer. I have no real agenda, I don't REALLY care what gays do. I don't REALLY care if mankind makes it through another year. But the truth is the truth, & I will always speak with that in mind. Just because you WANT something 2 be a certain way, and it SEEMS like the right thing to you, it doesn't mean it REALLY is. Your blinders are on, take them off.
I have spoken NOTHING but truth, sounds to me like you are not capable of understanding me. Read my last comment again man, your battle is NOT with me, I don't have anything against gays, but there are a HELL of a lot of people in the WORLD who HATE HATE HATE gays. I didn't create this situation, & I don't agree with the violence either, you are just going to have to face reality here is all. You have NO CHOICE but to battle, & you are already fighting if you are gay or support gay rights.
Hmm...ok. Thing about this, i most of the people who hate gays will die soon, and humans are being born to accept gays because those people who hate gays are starting to be more discreet about it.
That remains to be seen doesn't it? I mean after all the topic of this video is violence against a gay youth at the hands of another youth, so I don't really see how your last comment can be very accurate at all. Like I said man, just face the facts, and get ready to protect yourself.
I know there's still violence driven by homophobia even among youths, and i know many babies are being born into a homophobi family today, but read my comment carefully. I said people who hate gays were being more discreet about it, but i never said ALL OF THEM. Progress happens slowly, i'm not expecting for a majority of people to accept homosexuality THIS year, but maybe in the next ten years. Just look at the pattern. Nowadays we have openly gay artists, celebrities, and even politicians.
And also, you don't have to advocate anything you don't want to, but for fuck's sake, this video is about TOLERANCE, and about LIVE AND LET LIVE, and about DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM KILLING INNOCENTS. That's all! ok?
Oh I agree with that, like I said, checks and balances, one side against the other, YIN vs YANG. But just don't forget you can NEVER have one without the other. Humanity will most likely reject homosexuality in a majority rules fashion as long as we exist. Who wants to be normal anyway right?
wow alexrules13 is a complete ignoramous. anyway, i completely agree with you. gay, straight, black, white, jewish, christian what does it all matter. they're all labels made up so we can categorize and discriminate people. its not fair at all.
...First of all, when did you choose to be straight I mean you never did right...by the way do us all a favor and beat the shit out of who ever raised you cause there dumbfucked up more then you...
Oh thats alright, sorry for my stupid reply comment, I thought I came off sounding bad myself so yea :) really sorry about that I just commented on Kmarxist, I wish closed minded people would just shut their mouths and leave things alone don't you. well anyways great video! hope your doing well and if I right its friday so have a nice weekend as well. ^_^
I really agree with you about everything you said. its sad and it isnt right that people would be willing to kill others just cuz they are different. you are a very smart girl and this video is great.
o wow nicole im sorry but i must say that your room lookes soo clean, holy shit when you said you cleaned at i didnt relize it would look perfect. its reminding me of kates room lol.
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nature created homos for some reason.
1. To be stress busters, beating the shit out of them releases stress
2. Organ donors need a kidney,liver, heart grab a gay of your blood type and there you have replacement.
3. Tired of raising your babies just hand them over to these homos, they are absolute idiots they will raise anybodies kids.
4. You dont have any one to dip your cock in to they are natural living blow me up dolls.
Thats homos for you piece of meat to be used and discarded.
G41MCombo 9 months ago
... daaamn u sexeeyy <3
gorbulean 1 year ago
SoulForce(dot)com says The Holy Bible does not condemn homosexuality.
This video is cool. If I witness hate I will stand against it. I favored this video and rated 5 stars.
Fira777 2 years ago
Arghh~! Why don't you include the details as to why he was shot. Openly feminine, gay, great good for you! Why was the kid touching his genitals and groping other kids, and why did he publicly proclaim his love for a boy who clearly was not gay!? No, you guys don't get a pass for this, yea the kid shouldn't have been shot, but he could have avoided it if he didn't harass straight boys. Do you have any idea how creepy it is to be hit on by another guy?
jakemaroc312 2 years ago
Creepy enough to SHOOT him and KILL him? Real men should be man enough to tell him enough and report it, not kill him. If I was hit on by another girl I didn't like, that's what I would do too. Fucking asshole. Think too much about your pride and your dick.
ixithegreat 2 years ago
ignrome, guys like you make us look bad. cry me a river you coldhearted homophobe!
heyhaila09 2 years ago
Why is it that you do not mention whites as an example of groups of people who are victims of hate crime? Are you suffering from the liberal white guilt illusion that hate crimes against whites is not so much of a problem as the other way around?
Dovenpeis 2 years ago
It doesn't matter what color his skin was, Lawrence King was murdered because he was gay. He could have been black or white. Blacks have faced their own civil rights battle, but still face discrimination today just as gay people do, just as women do, people of different religons, etc.
ixithegreat 2 years ago
The BuyBull is the root of most evil in the US.
AnorexicBob 3 years ago
The sodomite died. lol
lgnrome 3 years ago
Go fuck yourself. Please. Go fuck yourself.
ixithegreat 3 years ago
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There not born gay . It a perverse. Im sick of you fuckin liberal fagots. We need to keep these fagots back in the closit. You keep letting them out bitch.,
lgnrome 3 years ago
@lgnrome do you find all deaths funny?
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 death happens to everyone. We can't ignore it.
lgnrome 1 year ago
dont make fun of him because he was open-minded...i have friends that r gay and i cant imagined them getting shot for being gay so if u have nothing nice to say just dont even talk @lgnrome
Mrjose117able 1 year ago
@Mrjose117able no offensive to anyone. I made a comment that was bad . I was wrong no one should die .
lgnrome 1 year ago
@lgnrome fuck off
idaman12345 1 year ago
HAHAHA. I can't believe this kid. "God hates gays". No God is disgusted at the fact that his creation is caught up in this junk. Nice try kid. It will NEVER end. Gays WILL NOT be equal. Your race is not your sex. You being gay has nothing to do with your race or religion. Back in the 60s-70s this wasen't such an isssue because people had common sense. Being gay is not the way and is not ok. You can change!
TheMadMusicMan 3 years ago
I like being bi. Go research you blockhead. 10% of most species of mammals are gay too.
ixithegreat 3 years ago
Actually, in the 60s-70s this WAS an issue. It just wasn't as in the public eye. Family values changed to a point where being open about things such as whether or not you were sexually active and your sexual orientation was not only accepted, but expected. And where would you get the idea that God hates gays? If you believe in a God that hates, you might want to look around, pretty sure the people you're going to church with are Devil worshipers. God is Love, read your Bible.
tmsbrdrs2 3 years ago
Really?
You clearly have no room to talk.
You believe in the bible? Seriously? I don't usually criticize people who are religiously... But you believe in a book that was written thousands of years ago by PEOPLE? Not to mention the bible has been rewritten over and over throughout the years.
God doesn't exist. Get over yourself. If you don't like gays, that's fine. Keep your shit opinion to yourself, no one cares.
epicwater 3 years ago
Everything you said is the truth, with the exception of the part about GOD. But yeah, gays are fighting a PRIDE filled, LUST DRIVEN, uphill battle that mother nature will NEVER allow them to win. Mother nature makes mistakes, and we have all been given instincts which tell us when something is not good for the tribe (populous). THIS is why gays are cast out and rejected by the MAJORITY of our society, it's only natural. Those of you who think you can defy mother nature will be RUDELY awakened.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
you're not very eloquent.. :S
flo123456 3 years ago
Wow... you're very well spoken for a 15 year old. And very pretty (don't worry I'm 14, not 40). Anyway, nice, heartfelt video
ipodblendedfun 3 years ago
Im gay myself, and I cringed when I heard this news about Lawrence, BUT, he wasnt shot ONLY because he was gay. I read all the articles online. Lawrence sexualy harrased and threw his gayness on guys who clearly told him they didnt like it and wanted him to stop and one boy took the wrong path and shot him. I hold the shooter completely accountable but Lawrence wasnt as innocent as we might think.
Stretch2325 3 years ago 3
AVENGED SEVENFOLD :D
MikeMoldao 3 years ago
"the bible started it" lol wtf the bible wasn't the first abrahamic scripture written and pagan religons before that more then likely dissed gays.But anyway everyone deal with it we live in a fucked up world and if you haven't noticed it only gets worse. There is nothing we could ever do to change this. Thousands of families are slaughtered everyday in other countries but you stop to mourn for one little gay kid? typical. Guess what? Earth is pretty much hellish.
Lateralus1988 3 years ago
typical your an ass, I agree with what you said about the slaughtering of families for other countries but you didn't have to sound so ignorant about it...
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
Your pretty! =)
AnastasiaMalinkova 3 years ago
Because of his "sexual orientation" OR because he was a cross dressing nuisance who harassed minors at school? Big difference...
getveryreal 3 years ago
To murder him was wrong either way.
ixithegreat 3 years ago
i thought he was 13?either way its really sad.
FreddyGlss 3 years ago
like i understand why ur doing this. and at my school we did a day of silence for lawrence King.But honestly no need to bring in religion!
itislove15 3 years ago
What was the background story on Lawrence King? Was he Asian or Latino? and Why was he living in a group home?
doobiesmoke15 3 years ago
5 stars.
Ellioto9 3 years ago
I like the ideas, and I agree with everything you're saying.
but if you need a script to remember your own train of thought, how much of what you're saying do you actually believe?
and this could do without you playing with your hair.
abc123unmi 3 years ago
erm.. that wasn't a script, it was a few dates and stuff.
ixithegreat 3 years ago
PLEASE don't associate the BLACK struggle with the GAY struggle, black people are against "Gay rights" too. Gay is a choice, BLACK is a RACE, get it right or shut your mouth.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Unless you hide it, but that itself is living a life in unhappiness.
ixithegreat 3 years ago
EVERYTHING in life is a choice, that is except for 2 things: Being BORN,& DIEING. What you do between those 2 involentary events are besically choices you make which are influenced by your environment/peers. If you have strength of character your parents/elders did a good job teaching you good values 2 bring forward in your life. If you let EVERYONE influence you, you will be dragged in several directions at once, & you will end up in turmoil. We ALWAYS have a choice to make. No right, No wrong.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Alright then you choice was to be a close minded asshole that listens to other people, good...no I mean reeeeeeally good choice.
~You are a DumbFuck! Hope your happy ;)~
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
I might be an asshole sometimes, but CLOSE MINDED? I really don't think so. I think it's funny how humans only want freewill to apply 2 CERTAIN areas of their lives, while attempting 2 ignore or disavow it's existance in ANY area of their lives that comes up to question by the greater majority of the population. I don't think homosexuality should be prohibited, but you can't tell others what to think about it's origins. Enjoy being gay if you want, I don't care, but you have STILL made a choice.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Alright and What The Fuck is wrong with you people, she is making a point. How about nice job on your video but I... and so on don't be an ass and just not even note you watch the whole video.
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
Nice job? For what? Stating the obvious? Come on now buddy, she doesn't deserve a medal for a silly YouTube video. It's a self-serving outlet, what is she really accomplishing besides garnering sympathy from people who are ALREADY crying fake crocodile tears for this tragedy. People LOVE tragedy almost as much as they love sex, you will never change that, all you are doing is wallowing in your OWN emotions about a situation you had NOTHING to do with. How about discussing a SOLUTION instead?
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Alright, not that there is any point of commenting you but Hell I'll try it. Alright when did you choose? tell me that...
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
I guess you could say I chose the first time I learned about homosexuality. I learned about how some people like to date the same sex and sodomize each other (straight people too!! YUCK) and I guess I didn't even really have to give it more than a moment's thought before I realized that it didn't make ANY sense to me. If other people like to do it, then hey, I say go ahead, I don't dig people's weird fetishes either. Doesn't make me hate them though. Like I said we ALWAYS have a choice to make.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
...Alright, random and it makes no sense but heck. I've got nothing to say.
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
Must be hard going through life lacking the even the SIMPLEST of understanding.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Must be hard going through life lacking the even simplest of braincell I mean let me see here you started this off by yelling about African Americans and then you seem to think everything is a choice, first of all that "When did I choose" thing was really stupid I mean all you proved was you are straight and that is it you didn't choose anything.
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
Well first of all let's get this back to a respectable tone, since you are suffering from misconceptions about my present attitude. I was never YELLING about African Americans, I just think it is unfair to lump blacks and gays in the same catagory concerning civil rights, and I'll tell you why: Reguardless of what the common gay perception is about choice, you DO have the choice concerning how people percieve YOU. In other words, if you don't want someone to think you are gay you can change it.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Black people wake up black (and usually proud of it), it doesn't matter what clothes we put on, who we go to bed with, where we work, what we do AFTER work, it doesn't matter if we cure cancer, it doesn't matter if we have the same blood type as someone who needs a transfusion, some people HATE us on SIGHT. It's not the same buddy, I get irritated when gay people try to stand side by side with us in an attempt to equate their struggle with ours, when they have CHOSEN their plight. TELL THE TRUTH
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Anyway, the POINT is, nobody knows you are gay until you TELL them. Putting gays besides blacks in a civil rights struggle is INSULTING to many of us. Black people are NOT intrinsic friends of gay people, it's VERY important that people know and understand that. I have nothing PERSONALLY against gays, but I DO feel that it is unfair to equate the GAY rights struggle with the Black rights struggle. It's just how I feel about it, sorry if you don't like it.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Point being that people are Fucking stupid, thats the point I'm trying to get a crossed here. Do not blame them for deciding that since African Americans went through a struggle that, that might mean they could help them in their struggle.
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
People are fucking stupid, you're right about that, but like I said before, Black people owe NOTHING to Gays (unless they are gay themselves). So don't expect unconditional support for gay rights from blacks unless you want to have your (or their) feelings hurt. Black people have their OWN battles to fight, and thankfully they (the battles) have nothing to do with sodomy. Be gay if you want, there's nothing wrong with that, just don't implicate race issues in your fight for what you want.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
she was just using it as an example of oppression, not "equating" it with the gay rights struggle. What i want to know though, is how does her comment affect you or anyone else in a negative way at all? jeeeeesus
berniemacster 3 years ago
Funny how long these comments stay up. Guess nobody else has anything interesting to say huh? Always in search of a new perspective on things aren't we? My previous comment illustrated pretty well my belief. Some people seem to think blacks and gays should walk hand in hand against oppression, I believe gay people almost LIKE oppression, because they welcome it into their lives in MANY forms. It's something to think about, being gay is cool with me, but is it REALLY worth the trouble?
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Gays welcome oppression into their lives? Well now you really must elaborate, and be clear, please.
berniemacster 3 years ago
First of all if you want to continue this, you can scrap the condescending attitude, I don't need you telling me to, "be clear". Gays have no REQUIREMENT to make public what their convictions/inclinations in the bedroom are, therefore it must be a voluntary act. They want ATTENTION just like every other human being, & they get it by REBELLING and DELIBRATELY doing things that are against the social norm. The fact that it is sexual only sweetens the deal for most. It's an ADDICTION born of ego.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
The likely-hood of you being able to understand me or where I am coming from is slim if not nonexistent. So why bother? Some people just don't support homosexuality, I just don't feel it is something that should be encouraged in society. What GOOD is it? What BENEFIT do we reap as human beings by NOT discouraging it? There is NO benefit. I believe people should be able to do what they want, but I don't advocate casual sexual encounters (BAD IDEA), so WHY would I advocate SODOMY & LESBIANISM?
Kmarxist 3 years ago
I disagree with you 100%. I think its extremely selfish to side with the people trying to forbid rights of gays and lesbians. Most already live through hell getting through the day, enduring hurtful comments and harrasement. And all they want is to marry the one they love, and have it LEGAL. What happened to the seperation of church and state? We are not a Christian nation, we are a FREE nation. Marriage is a government liscence, not one by the church. And homosexuality is completely NATURAL!
ixithegreat 3 years ago
Everything we do as humans is NATURAL, how could any action taken by a being of this world be ANYTHING less? The point I am making is there is a system of checks & balances in place that keeps the herd maintained from a NATURAL perspective. This very system prohibits humanity as a whole from embracing our proclivities that do NOT benefit the survival of the species, & homosexuality is one of these proclivities. Mother Nature already knows how to manage this, & hatred is JUST as natural as LOVE.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
First of all, i am not trying to understand where you're coming from (although i would enjoy knowing), but it seems that you wrote your comment up there for a reason, and it seems that you are trying to convince me. Well, you're not going to convince anyone with your theory that it's an act of "rebellion" or "attention seeking," which has no evidence of any sort. There have been studies of homosexuality, and none of them have found what you just said. In other words, it is bullshit. Sorry.
berniemacster 3 years ago
All studies conducted have been INCONCLUSIVE. I hope you understand that, check for yourself if you don't believe me. These type of circumstances don't offer the option of a quick and easy decision on either part. The truth is, Human Nature is Human Nature, meaning: As Human Beings we are an OCEAN of emotions that lead to a SEA of behavior, all is natural, however all is NOT necessarily beneficial. Resisting homosexuality as a culture is as natural as EMBRACING it. Don't believe me? WATCH & SEE.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
i KNOW all studies have been inconclusive, that's why i can't accept this comment of yours: "They want ATTENTION just like every other human being, & they get it by REBELLING and DELIBRATELY doing things that are against the social norm. The fact that it is sexual only sweetens the deal for most. It's an ADDICTION born of ego."
berniemacster 3 years ago
You don't have to accept it, what you DO have to accept is the fact that the MAJORITY of the world's general population still rejects homosexual behavior. That's what YOU have to accept, and I am willing to bet that all the studies in the world will have little if no affect on that fact. I've told you where I stand, & I have no problem with gays either, just tell the truth about the world is all man. You can't change human nature.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Resisting homosexuality as a culture might be natural, but human beings have the capicity to learn to accept it (if you don't believe me, WATCH & SEE). And if you're asking yourself, "what good will that do? where is the benefit?" think about the violence directed at homosexuals, think of the alienation they face, and think of the things things that are denied to them, such as (in our culture) the benefits of marriage. If hsexuality were embraced by everyone, these problems would disappear
berniemacster 3 years ago
You can hope all you want. The problems you are speaking of will NEVER disappear. I don't think anyone really wants them to anyway.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
I didn't say they will disappear, i said "IF homosexuality were accepted" they WOULD. Pay attention.
"I don't think anyone really wants them to anyway." Wrong. Read the comments, and listen to the people on other videos about Lawrence King, and ask thousands of people, and you will see people want them to disappear. Not everyone's as apathetic as you.
berniemacster 3 years ago
Hope never changed reality. The ratio of acceptance is not in your favor.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
In reading your comment, two quotes come to mind:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
It is bad to be oppressed by a minority, but it is worse to be oppressed by a majority. Lord Acton
berniemacster 3 years ago
Well then... Let the battle begin. All that is left is to see who winds up the winner. Funny thing is, really I am nothing more than a casual observer. I have no real agenda, I don't REALLY care what gays do. I don't REALLY care if mankind makes it through another year. But the truth is the truth, & I will always speak with that in mind. Just because you WANT something 2 be a certain way, and it SEEMS like the right thing to you, it doesn't mean it REALLY is. Your blinders are on, take them off.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
You haven't spoken any truths so far, you've only given your opinions, so you can shove this "battle" up your ass, for i am not interested.
berniemacster 3 years ago
I have spoken NOTHING but truth, sounds to me like you are not capable of understanding me. Read my last comment again man, your battle is NOT with me, I don't have anything against gays, but there are a HELL of a lot of people in the WORLD who HATE HATE HATE gays. I didn't create this situation, & I don't agree with the violence either, you are just going to have to face reality here is all. You have NO CHOICE but to battle, & you are already fighting if you are gay or support gay rights.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
Hmm...ok. Thing about this, i most of the people who hate gays will die soon, and humans are being born to accept gays because those people who hate gays are starting to be more discreet about it.
berniemacster 3 years ago
That remains to be seen doesn't it? I mean after all the topic of this video is violence against a gay youth at the hands of another youth, so I don't really see how your last comment can be very accurate at all. Like I said man, just face the facts, and get ready to protect yourself.
Kmarxist 3 years ago
I know there's still violence driven by homophobia even among youths, and i know many babies are being born into a homophobi family today, but read my comment carefully. I said people who hate gays were being more discreet about it, but i never said ALL OF THEM. Progress happens slowly, i'm not expecting for a majority of people to accept homosexuality THIS year, but maybe in the next ten years. Just look at the pattern. Nowadays we have openly gay artists, celebrities, and even politicians.
berniemacster 3 years ago
And also, you don't have to advocate anything you don't want to, but for fuck's sake, this video is about TOLERANCE, and about LIVE AND LET LIVE, and about DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM KILLING INNOCENTS. That's all! ok?
berniemacster 3 years ago
Oh I agree with that, like I said, checks and balances, one side against the other, YIN vs YANG. But just don't forget you can NEVER have one without the other. Humanity will most likely reject homosexuality in a majority rules fashion as long as we exist. Who wants to be normal anyway right?
Kmarxist 3 years ago
good , 15 years??, wow!! you're beautiful :)
timfurtado 3 years ago 4
amazing job thanks
nemway 3 years ago
You go, Mommy.
No one should abuse anyone over orientation, or race, or ANYTHING, for that matter. It's just cruel.
KickArseToothbrush 3 years ago 2
aw nicole your so beautiful, both physically and mentally. i love you!
Sugareexthexgypsy 3 years ago 3
wow alexrules13 is a complete ignoramous. anyway, i completely agree with you. gay, straight, black, white, jewish, christian what does it all matter. they're all labels made up so we can categorize and discriminate people. its not fair at all.
Whatsursign 3 years ago 2
You are a smart girl and hopefully a role model for the future.
PaganLyle 3 years ago 3
"She who would lead a Christlike life is she who is perfectly and absolutely herself."
Oscar Wilde
consciousson 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fuck fags who the fuck cares if they burn in hell!
alexrules13 3 years ago
...First of all, when did you choose to be straight I mean you never did right...by the way do us all a favor and beat the shit out of who ever raised you cause there dumbfucked up more then you...
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? You obviously don't know what you're talking about...
ixithegreat 3 years ago
...Alright, um That was my cousin trying to sound like me do um, people don't take this comment seriously.
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
No no no I was talking to alexrules13. I'm really sorry if that sounded bad :(
ixithegreat 3 years ago
Oh thats alright, sorry for my stupid reply comment, I thought I came off sounding bad myself so yea :) really sorry about that I just commented on Kmarxist, I wish closed minded people would just shut their mouths and leave things alone don't you. well anyways great video! hope your doing well and if I right its friday so have a nice weekend as well. ^_^
~Your Movie Rocks! Nice job!!~
whatsthepiont 3 years ago
Thank you very much :)
ixithegreat 3 years ago
LOok hot
shadowmaster206 3 years ago
I really agree with you about everything you said. its sad and it isnt right that people would be willing to kill others just cuz they are different. you are a very smart girl and this video is great.
obssesedwithamylee 3 years ago
o wow nicole im sorry but i must say that your room lookes soo clean, holy shit when you said you cleaned at i didnt relize it would look perfect. its reminding me of kates room lol.
obssesedwithamylee 3 years ago