Forest Fires and Oregon Forestry

[rushin2]

Bogus...

It is "healthy" to reseed the "same" pine tree type through the country and expect a "bio-diversity?" After "clear-cutting" that is... Harvested by "caring and loving" logging corporations with blessings from the top to ravage and destroy public property. Owned by public...

And than come "natural" fires that destroy this monoculture practice...

So "natural," isn't it?..

[sparklerbombg]

how come when there is forest fires it is usaully located in a pine tree forest? do pine trees have a flammable resin or something?

[dylaninLG]

fire is natural. the only reason we have so much fuel build up is because of keeping fire out. thinning also helps but when you have so much bad blood between the owl people and the loggers stuff tends to pile up. we need to reform our forest practices and attitudes twards fire if we are going to learn how to live with it and use it as a tool in forest management.

[mskyler100]

guess what there are way more than 10 people living in oregon...did you know in the united states alone more than 65% of homes in the last 10 years have been built in what use to be wildland fire area? hmm...u should get a better edumacation

[sleeksilverxo]

@mskyler100 speaking of better 'edumacation' ....

lmfao.

gah, seriously. if you're going to diss others, make sure your own english is impeccable.

[immigrationplague]

the guy presenting looks like george bush

[Brambleiah]

Break ties from commercial commercials. Oregon forests are our brethren and our local lungs.

[jands8186]

@Brambleiah i completely agre i live in Salem, Oregon

[Diomedea7]

It is the policies of Liberals running Oregon that have created what is literally a Scorched Earth policy. Its time to STOP liberals and vote Democrats out of office. They have proven that they only know how to destroy, time to fire the lot of em.

[Brambleiah]

Time to fire "them"? Fire all of them. "They" are all the same. What happened to people being our government? Democracy happened. If you are going to live in a reality based on political ideology, restore our Republic.

[tacorontian]

And people who is this man the brother of JOrge Bush,hahahahahahah how funny he is,The next job of Mr Bush, forest guardian.....

[blinko656]

Only commys live in oregon.

[dylaninLG]

@blinko656 if by "commy" you mean republicans then you would be corect.

[aznerd999]

California ftw. screw Oregon. Oregon has like 10 people living there and its cold. So screw Oregon. CALIFORNIA fTW

[KameradeHeinrich38]

Wisconsin ftw!!!

[aznerd999]

Lol.

[blinko656]

Funny.

[nomader88]

"California ftw. screw Oregon. Oregon has like 10 people living there and its cold. So screw Oregon. CALIFORNIA fTW"

You California idiots... such a typical comment really. You know if we got rid of California the average national IQ would probably go up 30 points. But for now we're all stuck with you and thanks to that everyone thinks the average American is stupid.

You all are always talking about how Oregon sucks. If that's the case then stay the hell out of my wonderful state.

[keavoncp]

@nomader88 Actually the average national IQ would decrease by 30 points if California was eliminated. I can think of countless other states that removing WOULD bring the average IQ up by though.

[pee2727]

central oregon ftw

[mdvaden]

After moving to south Oregon, we became much more familiar with the commonality of naturally occuring forest fires.

Even the coast redwoods had some hefty fires once upon a time. I've seen a lot of old charring on some old groves there. My redwood page can be found if you GOOGLE THIS:

mdvaden + Grove of Titans Redwoods

Some nearby trees are charred, and few have fire caves or cavities.

[amayagab]

Only you can prevent forast fires, witch is good because I have shit to do.

[OneSkiWonder]

You where doing good until after the comma. Prescribed fires are a lot more effective at preventing wild fires then trying never to have them catch fire.

[jj35456]

i hope all the animals survived

[rositabuena]

the animals smell the smoke and run , all animals survived they feel the danger

[OneSkiWonder]

not all of them... I've had fire jump my lines because burning animals run across them.

[rositabuena]

what? i dont understand.

[communitywork]

What people may not know is that the fires are also causing damage on an "elemental" level - that is, in increased amounts of elements such as iron, aluminum and mercury accumulating in watershed systems after a fire. Enhanced concentrations of such elements in stream water adversely affect the quality of downstream water supplies and the rate of vegetation regrowth.

[Sprchrged04]

ya it also acts as a fertilizer for new trees...Forest fires are natural.

[OneSkiWonder]

Some plants need fire to grow. I know there are some that the seeds will not sprout until after a fire has past.

[oceanus12]

This was done by greek developers in a few regions because of the way the by law is set up unfortunately it is the same in turkey. very very sad we feel your pain. hope our plane and redcrescent helps you in your time of need.TURKEY

[Lulitus13]

how many people is stupid in this world!!! ..YOU´RE TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE...this is about death....don´t you understand the meaning of this phenomenon?...al, the people who post political issues are totally insesitive.

[chrislawless]

lol wut?

[amayagab]

how many people IS stupid in this world? I think you answered your own question.

[sachiko808chan]

okay, smokey, we get it

[kotsiosconnie]

responsible is turkish

away from greece

ishallah na krousete eseis genitsaroi ante oust pou eisaste mazi mas

[TurkArmegedon]

are you idiot or what? how a türkish can be responsible fire in greece? i share this pain with your people. you lost 63 people in fire... sometimes türkey also has problem with forest burrning. i can understand you so much... good luck for you, i will pray for you...

[shima0088]

watch?v=ZgzCrWQKAK8...this video is made by Turks for our Greek neighbours...we share ur pain...we r always here for u whenever u need...God bless both of our beatiful countries...

[demikak1]

paidia i katastasi mas einai tragiki xwris polla logia voi8iste oloi gt kaigomasteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[shima0088]

ı m Turkish...ı m so sorry for this idiot who is called''onlygodcanjudgeme etc''...he is a real idiot who has no feelings...ı feel horrible for the fires in Greece...Turkish tv gives Greece allday with latest news...ı hope,Greece government is gonna find the responsibler of this disaster...ı m so sorry about ppl's family who died in fire...Turks share Greece's pain...be sure of this...get well soon,neighbours...our hearts r with Greece...God bless

[akrepalp]

greece ALWAYS IS SPONSOR TO TERORIST kurdis WHO GIVES FOREST FIRE IN TURKEY..THIS IS PAYBACK BAYBE..PAYBACK

[onlygodcanjudgeme34]

yeah..ı'm very hapyy..good greek dead greek ::))

good fire greek fire gasoline to pour..this is tragedy(comedy) 51 dead..işallah 100...200...3000..1500 dead zuha zuha zuha beter ol komşiii g(ay)reek

[grdreamers]

Κύριε Ελέησον

God help us

[Lulitus13]

I hope that God is seeing all this terror. I´m praying for you, and your beutiful country.

Blessings

[lisduggan64]

@Lulitus13 I don't mean to rude or invasive but I had to comment on what you said about a god seeing all this terror...isn't your god supposed to be responsible for everything that happens on this planet, except for the bad that men do (because that's usually a combination of the devil and free will)? I thought god knows all that was, is and will ever be....if so why then does he in your words let this kind of "terror" happen. Some fires are natural others are caused...get over the god thing!

[crystalina123]

THE ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tarhun]

here's a better idea: just stop putting out forest fires. That's how forests have done it for millions of years, no need to change the system now.

[AlonsoLegend]

But what happens when it grows so much that it threatens cities next to forests as in some American and Australian cities? I understand your thinking but it would be asking for trouble.

[OFRI01]

That is a problem with letting wildfires burn. Using controlled fire -- what is known as prescribed fire -- can return fire back into the forest in a controlled way so thin the forest and to reduce the fuels on the forest floor. Prescribed burning is conducted under very strict weather and fuel conditions to minimize the risk of it escaping and becoming a wildfire.

Stephen Fitzgerald

Oregon State University Forestry Professor, Fire Scientist

[dylaninLG]

@OFRI01 ya but it can also jump lines or the wind can blow the wrong way creating a real wild fire. but im only 15 so this is only hersay.

[OFRI01]

Our forests have huge and unnatural levels of fuel buildup over the last century. Letting fires burn today may not mimic how fire naturally burned a century ago. For example, ponderosa pine forests burned every 3-30 years. With today's fuel levels, simply allowing a wildfire to burn would torch the entire stand, killing even the old growth trees and threaten communities bordering our forests.

Stephen Fitzgerald

Oregon State University Forestry Professor, Fire Scientist

[tarhun]

yes, but that would only happen once. And afterwards we just wait a few centuries and it will go back to exactly how it was before we started messing things up.

[dylaninLG]

@tarhun i realy dont want my town(bordered by pine forests all the way around) to be burned to a crisp or lose my house. also, in oregon, we have a "let burn" law that says if a fire is burning in a wilderness area, you dont supress it untill it treatens private lands, historical sites or nat.l forest.

[GreenwoodWhut]

Interesting.. My initial thoughts were of propaganda but forest thinning may be a useful tool to prevent disasters. jlashure has a point.

[OFRI01]

Forest thinning, if done with fire in mind, can mimic fire. Thinning out subordinate trees, leaving the larger more fire-resistant trees, mimics mortality that would be caused by understory fire. After removing the slash, the forest can be underburned (depending on the forest type) to maintain a more open stand free of understory ladder fuels and fuels on the forest floor.

Stephen Fitzgerald

Oregon State University Forestry Professor, Fire Scientist

[jlashure]

hey goldenforeskin...blow me

[goldenskin212]

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lol

[jlashure]

i think that about every 10 years theres enough bulidup where a controlled fire is needed to help maintain forest health. When buildup goes much beyond this point it could be the cause of devestating, out of of control fires.

[OFRI01]

In general you are probably right, but it will depend on the forest type and the productivity of the site. More productive sites add more fuel quicker than less productive sites. To your second point, ladder fuels can develop over a 10-120 year period, which increases the risk of crown fires. Under story trees and shrubs are considered ladder fuels.

Stephen Fitzgerald

Oregon State University Forestry Professor

[rweggler]

This video breifly talks about forest fires. I found it interesting that he said years of keeping fire out is often the cause of big fires. I wonder how often a forest must be thinned out to help prevent a forest fire? What is considered too much thinning, and when is it considered deforestation?

[OFRI01]

Keeping fire out of the forest has occurred since the early part of the 20-century. A forest should be thinned perhaps every 10 years or so, depending on the type and productivity of the forests If you remove all the trees and don't replant, that might be considered deforestation. However, in Oregon, the Forest Practices Act requires landowners to replant if they reduce the density of forest below specific stocking levels.

Stephen Fitzgerald

Oregon State University Forestry Professor