Harold Camping Rebutal Part 1 by Dr Meyers

[yohannbiimu]

Subjectivity is the whole of Camping's exegesis. There is nothing substantive about it, and hence, I cannot figure out how ANYONE could listen to his rambling, convoluted teaching, and conclude that he's "proven from scripture" that he can figure out when the end of time will be. It isn't there! It's made up out of whole cloth, and yet, he's conned hundreds, if not thousands of people to invest EVERYTHING to his heresies. He is surely leading people towards the falling away.

[sonsofthunder12]

Just as I suspected a wolf in sheeps clothing

I am curious under what false pretenses you used to get Harold to agree to your interview.

Your hack job editing of the interview in an attempt to serve Satans agenda fails because the Truth always defeats deception and lies.

You only have 6 days to get right with the creator.

Shalom

[crazyman4985]

I just feel bad for people who are quitting their Jobs and education to hand out Campings Doctrine.. He misinterprets scripture constantly, causes fear, arguement

[jerome07sun]

Camping = False prophet

[smurfboywv]

@Lizzi7000 You support the devil.

[smurfboywv]

@Lizzi7000 You need to stop worshipping Harold Camping!!!!!! He is not God.

[1SwordSearcher]

Thx much Dr. Meyers for getting this message out as the Bible has many infallible proofs declaring Judgment day on May 21, 2011. Eventhough you don't believe, the facts are that all the evidence is directly from the Bible alone. Harold is a spokesman for many who have critiqued, studied, and verified this information for many years now, 05-21-2011.zapto.org

[smurfboywv]

@1SwordSearcher What verse is May 21 in? What verses have exact years that those events occured? Provide those verses and I will believe camping.

[1SwordSearcher]

@smurfboywv

Here at: 05-21-2011.zapto.org/Chronolog­y.html you will be able to read a statement I prepared for explaining how May 21, 2011 was understood from the Bible alone. My webpage 05-21-2011.zapto.org is completely devoted to exposing the evidence for May 21, 2011.

[smurfboywv]

@1SwordSearcher I don't want links to websites, I want versus from the Bible "aka" proof!

[sonsofthunder12]

@smurfboywv Genesis 7:11

[smurfboywv]

@sonsofthunder12 Try again, that talks about the day the great flood began.

[sonsofthunder12]

@smurfboywv Smirfboy you really surprise me with your comments. Do you know why God illustrates the flood and Noah? Do you really know? I don't get the feeling you do, yet I see your comments all over mocking and ridiculing the word of God. when the Bible says, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. When you read that, do you know what it means? If you don't, why do you go on deceiving and pretending to know ? This isn't a game, this is serious.

[smurfboywv]

@sonsofthunder12 Again, the Bible says, in Gods own words, that NO MAN KNOWS, NO NOT THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN, NOR THE SON, BUT MY FATHER ONLY. You need to re-read the bible.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: You forget that God said he would NEVER flood the world again. His promise is the image of a rainbow. Please stop taking scriptures out of context. God said he would never flood the world again but you say he will. Hmmmm....you are calling God a liar. Also: "But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33) I'm betting on Jesus!

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong I have never foregotten that God said the first judgment is by water and the final judgment is by fire. By the looks of your channel you live in a fantasy world, it's not surprising a dilusion has come upon you and smirfdog. I also see you love horror stories, sad to say, but your going to love judgment day because the bible says it will be horrific. let me remind you, you still have less that 3 days to break free from your pride filled witch hunt and seek gods mercy.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Do you know that God said not to judge people? You just did that. I'll have you know that it is very childish and unchristian like to judge people by what they like. Sadly you fall for a false prophet that says there is no hell which in the bible there IS a hell it's the river of fire. Next is calling the son of God Satan then saying that Jesus is actually Micheal the Arch Angel....cont...

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong I used to share similar beliefs about the Bible and then my eyes were opened. Just like you probably imagine yourself to be Guinevere, I imagined myself to be Arthur. Then I woke up and I came to Truth. Keep pulling the judging card and the name calling card from your Tarot deck it still doesn't get you closer to understanding scripture. The proof of understanding is your belief that Jesus doesn't even know. Jesus said I and the Father are one.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Honey you are a fool. You are also going off topic as I've listed the things Harold Camping has said that is not in the bible. So where in the bible does it say in bold letters that May 21,2011 is the rapture that would make God and Jesus liars they stated in the bible that we are NOT to know. Oh and where is the Anti-Christ? If you say Obama I will laugh because he is a pathetic Anti-Christ.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong I see all the Ladys of the Lake are here commenting. Well gather around...The Bible teaches that to those in darkness, He will come like a thief in the night. Revelation 3:3 teaches that we must know at what hour He comes or He will come upon us as a thief in the night.

The thief comes to kill and destroy. So yes, if we are not in darkness we will absolutely know the time.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: You just took it out of context yet again. And Lady of the Lake? What kind of fantasy books are you reading? Or are you going senile. And besides that it STILL does not mean that May21st is the rapture. Sorry you fail yet again. -_-

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong It was a reference to avalon, which is mythology. I assumed since you and your friend use avalon themes you would also understand the mythologic character reference. It seems you are using a fantasy book, however, and do not understand the origin of avalon. I am beginning to see a pattern here of biblical and mythological interpretation. I am not sure we will have another chance to dialog. but like winterwonderland said, you girls will be ok. i think so too. ggodnight

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: I will stick with what the bible said IN context. When it says No man will know it clearly said that the date and time God will only know. I will never believe what you have to say about May 21st. I will not happen on a date that is predicted by man. A prophet get sit right ONCE! If the said prophet (Harold Camping) fails then it did not come from the mouth of God (Remember 1994?) Notice the question mark? It called wiggle room so he can get out of trouble another one cont...

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: One a book Harold Camping wrote is called We are almost there...Hmmm...notice the word ALMOST? again wiggle room. If it was real the book would be "We are there!"

When you place ALMOST in it then it seems you are NOT sure at all. Definition of ALMOST: very nearly but not exactly or entirely <we're ALMOST there. ^_~

Understand now? He made a loophole.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong almost like , 2 more days

see ya

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12 The name "antichrist" is only found in 1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 7. The Apostle John was the only Bible writer to use the name antichrist. Studying these verses, we learn that many antichrists (false teachers) will appear between the time of Christ's first and Second Coming, but there will be one great antichrist who will rise to power during the end times, or "last hour," as 1 John phrases it. He will deny that Jesus is the Christ. cont...

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: He will deny both God the Father and God the Son. He will be a liar and a deceiver.1 John 4:1-3 says, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. cont....

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world."

By the end times, many will easily be deceived and embrace the antichrist because his spirit will already dwell within the world.

In 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, the antichrist is described as the "man of sin," or "son of perdition." Here Paul, like John, is also warning believers about the antichrist's ability to deceive: cont....

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: "Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." In Revelation 13:5-8, the antichrist is referred to as "the beast."

So the Ant-Christ comes BEFORE Jesus returns.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Also saying that Jesus did not go to the cross to save us. And on top of that Ignoring: "But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33)

Ignoring this scriptures and all the other warning you of false prophets like Harold Camping is going to send you straight to the hell your false prophet does not believe in.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong somebody needs a hug!

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: I believe it is you my dear. And you say I'm in a dilusion. I at least do what the bible says to do. Harold Satan Camping is under the influence of the devil. Please! Follow Jesus! He is the ONLY way into heaven. Making fun of people because of what they like is pathetic ans sad. See you on May 22nd. ^_~

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: So I believe you will need a hug when you are here on the 22nd and I will happy to give you one. Just don't go overboard and kill yourself. You have people on here that will indeed reach out to you as a brother and will be happy to talk to you including me WITHOUT the mocking. I HATE what Harold Camping has done to families, friend and the church. He screwed us all including you. smurfboywv is indeed right. You really should be listening not to Camping but to GOD's words!!

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: I think you do. You lost and it was EPIC!!! So are you going to make fun of my hobbies too and my background pic? Because that is shameful for a so called Christian to do. Leave the judging to God...unless you think your God. Well you DO follow Harold Satan Camping around and take up for and praise him and some even pray to him like he is Jesus. So not only is this disgusting man a false prophet he is also a false Christ. You are a fool.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Winterwonderland2207 Greetings My Lady, are you Gwenhwy the Great or Gwenhwy the less?

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: You shouldn't mock and make fun of people after all it makes only YOU look bad in the eyes of the Lord and the people here on YouTube. Seems to me you sound like a troll. It would do you well to learn some respect and then and only then you will Receive the respect you want from others.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Winterwonderland2207 Sorry, it was a reference to Avalon and Arthurian mythology I thought you might know the characters since you use the thematic on your channell.  Actually, it would be complimentary because I was asking if you were one of the Royal Priestess'

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: Umm..no. I have read a book called Avalon but it's not the same as your book. It's in a series actually. These pictures were re-drawn by no other then Eternal. She did a pretty good job.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Winterwonderland2207 very nice work...wow we agreed....

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: Agreed to what exactly? That she a great artist? But really NOTHING happened!!! No earth shattering earthquakes. But you know what? I'd still like to be friends with you. So when you get back give me a friend invite. :D

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: I think you just bit off more then you can chew when it comes to Eternalsummersong. She is very grounded and smart. She studies the bible like she said all of what Harold Camping says is not in the bible. And you know the ones she was talking about. Eternal was saved at 10 and so was I. We will be fine. you....I'm not so sure about after all you follow a false prophet that got it wrong in 1994.

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: So SIR what Eternal is saying is this: "But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33)

Notice that it said SON (Jesus) Now if it had meant the anti-christ then it would say the son of perdition. Or if it meant Satan then it would say Lucifer or Satan. He IS the king of lies after all.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Winterwonderland2207 Once again, to say even Jesus doesn't know is false because Jesus said I and the Father are one. If the Father knows then Jesus knows. Thats elementary. When it says that only the Father knows it means, the day and hour must come only from the Bible. It doesn't mean we cant know or shouldn't know, because we must know or He will come upon us like a thief.

[Winterwonderland2207]

@sonsofthunder12: So do YOU need a hug now? Or do you believe that October 21 is now the end? Because he did this before in the 90's to be exact. Lol! He push the date up three times. All I have to say is I hope you snap out of it go back to church and find the REAL God and the REAL Jesus. Because you REALLY need them.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Harold ADDS AND SUBTRACTS FROM THE BIBLE. For that he WILL go to hell. Another thing annihilationism: Destruction of the Soul came from The Seventh-day Adventist Church which is a cult! Annihilationism is NOT in the bible. He also has Jim Jones leader of the Peoples Temples PRINTING PRESS!!! On November 18, 1978 mass suicide of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip. That is some demonic influence.

[sonsofthunder12]

@Eternalsummersong If the Father knows, so does Jesus. the Son you refer to in the gospels is not the Son of man, but the son of perdition. it is satan himself that is being prepared to go into judgment day also known as the lake of fire.

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Also calling people names is rather....childish. So please get his name right it's @smurfboywv. You may want to pay attention to peoples names. Oh and do not spout out random scriptures at me that has NOTHING to do with the rapture. Besides the AntiChrist has not shown up. And if you call Obama the antichrist I will laugh because he is not much of one. >_>

[Eternalsummersong]

@sonsofthunder12: Lol! Nothing Happened.Soooooo.....what happened to the rolling earthquakes?

[mtpenguin1]

How long is a year? Answer: 12 months, with the following exceptions: - Sabbath years = 13 months, - Jubilee years = 13 months 360 days in common years. 390 days in Sabbath and Jubilee years. The difference of days is exactly (6 * 360) + 390 = 2550 days in Sabbath periods. (7 * 2550) + 390 = 18240 days in Jubilee periods. 70 * 18240 = 1,276,800 days in 3500 Biblical years. 365.2422 days per year * 3500 years = 1,278,347.7 days (1,547.7 day difference)

[AnEskimo]

Harold Camping is quite the actor. He is really playing this all up good. I listen to Open Forum every day, and I can not wait til the open forum on May 23rd. good interview though.