Get a different guild IMO. I fill in any slot in H Naxx as prot, Healing or Ret, depending on whats needed. Paladins are great at everything. Though I gotta admit we have a DK with 31khp unbuffed and almost 70% avoidance who is a tanking king.
You do not realize how happy i am to finally see a fellow blood elf pally more than 75% of the vids on youtube are ally ones (not that theres anything wrong with them) its just great to finally see sum horde action =D 5*
ok, so currently my paladin is only 16k hp unbuffed, but he is uncrittable and uncrushable. in Beta as prot he is pushing +847 spelldamage. now with moves that generate "high threat", i am afaraid to say warrior's are gonna get replaced.
i've met good warrior tanks, druids, and paladins. each of them has their own way of tanking. warriors and druids start out great, while pallies don't get that credit at the beginning, they start out not so great, and as they build they actually meet and surpass warriors and druids.
well i know all sort of tanks im a palla tank a friend of me is a warior and another a druid ( all tanks) but the druid tank still is the best he can still hold agro on more mobs not so efective as palas but good enough and have tons of health/armor
palla tank is made for shattered halls almost ALL pulls u do are aoe pulls ok ok in heroic it might get hard on boss but still its np just u gota know what u do
Pally tanks have highest aggro on my tankadin with my aggro becames like 5 times more then the 2nd highest aggro on an dps on heroic bosses and tankadins r very good aggro on mobs
lol, are you serious? A decked paladin tank, three aoe classes and a resto shaman or holy paladin can clear that place in no time at all. Try playing the game a little before posting next time imo :D
pallies can offload more threat at the start, but a epic geared warrior can pull off a pally. But if the pally knows whats he's doing the raid wont peel off him if he has a decent amount of spellpower anyways.
are you fucking retarded? its kinda the other way around bud... really how does block value add threat? also paladins can put out way more threat then warriors at end game raiding if they have enough spell dmg, cause really how often do your warrior moves get blocked, miss, parried etc.
To those who say ret pala dps is weak, it gets better in 25 man raids than it does in 5 mans. The extra 2% damage, if the paladin has imp. sanctity aura, helps 1 group. Not much but its some. The big damage is Imp judgement of the crusader, which helps all 25 peoples crits on the target. Doesn't seem like much but thats a LOT more crits. Plus 2 holy pally can throw light and wisdom judgements on a boss, and a ret pally can keep them judged by using crusdaer strike. Makes it TONS easier.
Zombie, you are a retard. Paladin tanks hold much more threat than a warrior in part because their threat scales with their gear, a warriors doesn't. time you open up your mouth bashing classes you should know what you are talking about.
Judgement of righteousness takes scales by 73% of their spell damage. Concecration scales by 76%. Your right it scales with gear. A paladin who has 500-600 spell damage would generate a ton of threat. Yet a paladin starting off with only blue avoidance gear and maybe 1 or 2 pieces of crappy spell damage gear will have no threat. A paladin can only be better at single mob tanking than a warrior if he had the best gear in the game.
Paladin tanks are better than warrior tanks IMO. Warrior tanks can handle single mob threat better than a paladin, but a paladin can STILL handle single mob threat very well. Warriors can NOT hold as many mobs nearly as good, or nearly as many, as a paladin tank can. Paladin tanks are more versatile, and the fact that they can have a good healing set and spam flash of light and be a backup healer in fights makes them more useful than a warrior who can only wannabe dps if they don't tank.
iPodguy0.. Ofc you can do bubble! When you do bubble, do righteous defense and then you have agro for the time the righteous defense last, but you have to remove the bubble before rightous defense drops, or else you will lose agro again
Nicely done. for the gauntlet right after that, check out "pallys can't tank heroic shattered halls". We've got the run down to 45 min heroic from zone-in to portal out, all melee group. Pally is essentially the Tank-CC, while the dps focus fire down mobs systematically .
Warriors absorb more damage, paladins have more ways to get their own health back. If you factor in judgement and seal of light into overall mitigation, paladins will come out above warriors and druids every time.
well pallys can be good at tanking but warriors are the main and best tanking class, all hybrid classes can be good at different things but are best at one and 4 pallys its healing. read up some interveiw with the leading guild in the world and you will c thats what they say. ofc all are free to do what they want but my palla is were he sopoed to be in holy.
pallys are excellent tanks, I managed to prove myself to 3rd in progress raid guild on my server as a tank. Now I tank all Kara, SSC, pfft.. Three 6 Mafia the music aint it? =P
normally when i tank, i have a pally healer and a shaman healer, for one, so i can have BoSanc, have kings andhave stoneskin totem and other shit ect ect, i keep devo on while the other pally keeps ret aura, i hit AW, trinket, toss sheild, judge righteous, the jduge crusader and jsut keep going at it, not hard
ya we can tank wo the aoe but , we tank multiple mobs well and this helps other classes use there aoe/ multi shot what ev on more targets wo pulling aggro , on single non boss pulls we dont use it , unless ur rollin with a heavy dpser who likes to pull aggro
Well, yea, it helps a lot , but if its not for multiple MOBS and you can hold aggro really good w/o I advise usin it for mob aggro mostly, if ur takin on a boss, try savin a lil bit of mana if u a lil low on it, I usually bust it out on bosses and huge Mobs
Had a pally tank SH, group makeup holy priest, mage, rogue, hunter, and obviously the pally. we didnt need to use CC at all he was able to hold agro on everything. than at kargath he tanked him and all adds. it was easy to keep him topped off also. pally tanks are coming up. i just think they need to try and stop dpsing, tank or healers what their best at.
My name is Julz character name Megiddo, GM of Praetorian Guard on Darrowmere. Ask Blizzard, paladin tanks are here to stay. I am the MT for my guild and we're up to shade in Karazhan. I have also tanked most heroics and I am exalted with all 5 factions. Pally tanks FTW.
Paladins generate more threat than warriors or druid tanks, you being alliance should know that by now....also this boss is BY FAR not the easiest Heroic boss...i know of many that are laughable.....and the fact that they made it to the boss is an acomplishment, the trash before him involves killing packs of mobs some with 6+ elites that can all one shot a clothy...
yeah if you want a real tank get a drood or a warrior. only reason this vid is up to prove how hard it is to have a pally tank. they have shit melee and shit heals. a all round shit class imo
BEEEAETCH L2P Nublet. Paladins make excellent tanks. I will give you 100$ RL cash (if you remember what that is) if you show me a tank that can tank a pack of 5+ mobs without losing aggro and be high in dmg meters...
yeah only cause the hunter is redirecting all aggro to tank. only tanking because of the hunter. put a destruction lock and mage in their, you wont have a pally tank :) and horde sux. and they look like shit in gear.
Wow, l2p. Pally tanks are coming up in the world, learn to deal with it. We are good at it too. The hunter is redirecting aggro because the pally can't charge at the mob, rtard.
Finally finding a use for a hunter.
Plus, it's all about teamwork anyways, so go suck on your lollipop and go to middle school.
it kinda pisses me that the paladins are allways healbots
I mean,Im a human paladin and on the 80% of the raids and dungeons they say "okay you will be the healer while the warriors tanking"
and I hate that because healers are boring
hungaryanhyker 3 years ago
Get a different guild IMO. I fill in any slot in H Naxx as prot, Healing or Ret, depending on whats needed. Paladins are great at everything. Though I gotta admit we have a DK with 31khp unbuffed and almost 70% avoidance who is a tanking king.
toomanynames01 3 years ago
You do not realize how happy i am to finally see a fellow blood elf pally more than 75% of the vids on youtube are ally ones (not that theres anything wrong with them) its just great to finally see sum horde action =D 5*
Protzor 3 years ago
This video inspired me to spec Protection on my Paladin at level 68, and now I'm clearing Sunwell Plateau! ^_^
GloboChem 3 years ago
holy pala, damn bot
DonkeyPL 3 years ago
ok, so currently my paladin is only 16k hp unbuffed, but he is uncrittable and uncrushable. in Beta as prot he is pushing +847 spelldamage. now with moves that generate "high threat", i am afaraid to say warrior's are gonna get replaced.
toomanynames01 3 years ago
i aggre as a prot pally. i think DK and pallys are going to be the new superior tanks.
zeldera 3 years ago
what server are you on? i think i have seen your guild
iHATEtheSUPERBOWL 3 years ago
i've met good warrior tanks, druids, and paladins. each of them has their own way of tanking. warriors and druids start out great, while pallies don't get that credit at the beginning, they start out not so great, and as they build they actually meet and surpass warriors and druids.
userenji 3 years ago
well i know all sort of tanks im a palla tank a friend of me is a warior and another a druid ( all tanks) but the druid tank still is the best he can still hold agro on more mobs not so efective as palas but good enough and have tons of health/armor
luckygozer 3 years ago
people go on about how a pala cant tank SH heroic but they are probs the best for it!
pala tank = best aoe tank and this dungeon requires aoe tanking
and pala tanks gain mana through being healed and once they gain a huge amount of initial agro so that they can swap moves so they can use wisdom etc!
ULTIMARAGNAR0K 3 years ago
palla tank is made for shattered halls almost ALL pulls u do are aoe pulls ok ok in heroic it might get hard on boss but still its np just u gota know what u do
luckygozer 3 years ago
dont know why but...dont think its heroic...
funnypillow7049 3 years ago
you can seem him loot a badge of justice...
RustedCarnage 3 years ago
what song is that?
toomanynames01 3 years ago
Pally tanks have highest aggro on my tankadin with my aggro becames like 5 times more then the 2nd highest aggro on an dps on heroic bosses and tankadins r very good aggro on mobs
dets2 3 years ago
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Paladins cant tank SH herioc
wowpwnz0rd 3 years ago
shut up ( coming from a warrior )
chab0nk 3 years ago
lol? you're either clueless or trolling, either way stfu imo.
cjleach 3 years ago
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they can't k? paladins suck at tanking, warroir pwns pala by miles.
wowpwnz0rd 3 years ago
lol, are you serious? A decked paladin tank, three aoe classes and a resto shaman or holy paladin can clear that place in no time at all. Try playing the game a little before posting next time imo :D
cjleach 3 years ago 3
*holy priest.
cjleach 3 years ago
noob pallas are better in tanking more mobs very good for aoe pulls and even at bosses
if i would say best tanking then
1)paladin
1) druid
2) warior
(pala = druid depens on both seen very good druid / pala)
luckygozer 3 years ago
Have most aggro but mana= fail
wowpwnz0rd 3 years ago
pallies can offload more threat at the start, but a epic geared warrior can pull off a pally. But if the pally knows whats he's doing the raid wont peel off him if he has a decent amount of spellpower anyways.
toomanynames01 3 years ago
2 Healer ? roflmao
crill20 3 years ago
the only other healing class in there was a priest, and he was in shadow form, genius.
userenji 3 years ago
i thinki see a shammy aswell
koolmoedee11 3 years ago
Why is this video posted? Pally tanks are proven awesome because you can tank a heroic boss?
ChessJew 3 years ago
warrior tanks are the best for bosses. paladin tanks shine on multiple trash.
50CenT123smoke 3 years ago
warrior threat gets better with gear too...
Hit, expertise, and block value cause warriors to do more threat
for pallys its spell damage
early on pallys will probably out threat a warrior but at later gear levels warriors do the same or more threat
patconnects 3 years ago
are you fucking retarded? its kinda the other way around bud... really how does block value add threat? also paladins can put out way more threat then warriors at end game raiding if they have enough spell dmg, cause really how often do your warrior moves get blocked, miss, parried etc.
whoatemypie 3 years ago
bv = more shield slam damage = more threat.
Paladin skill get resisted too, or 'miss'. Also, Paladin melee misses, which means no SoR/SoV dmg/stack.
My Paladin can do around 1500 solid TPS, 2200+ burst. Our warrior MT -barely- does less. It's not "way more", and we're both equal gear level- tier6.
Who's the retard now? Dick.
jdastridge 3 years ago
i can AoE tank on my warrior like 5to 6 ppl but not 20 ppl like a pally can i still get it done:) warrior tanks FTW
crazedude4life 3 years ago
I'm not so worried about the tank as I am the healer... That looks like 50% or more overhealing... Good luck keeping your mana up in rais, bro.
varisdead 3 years ago
paly tank own :D
diabolo2030 3 years ago
To those who say ret pala dps is weak, it gets better in 25 man raids than it does in 5 mans. The extra 2% damage, if the paladin has imp. sanctity aura, helps 1 group. Not much but its some. The big damage is Imp judgement of the crusader, which helps all 25 peoples crits on the target. Doesn't seem like much but thats a LOT more crits. Plus 2 holy pally can throw light and wisdom judgements on a boss, and a ret pally can keep them judged by using crusdaer strike. Makes it TONS easier.
zoomie6421 3 years ago
Zombie, you are a retard. Paladin tanks hold much more threat than a warrior in part because their threat scales with their gear, a warriors doesn't. time you open up your mouth bashing classes you should know what you are talking about.
YaHater 3 years ago
Judgement of righteousness takes scales by 73% of their spell damage. Concecration scales by 76%. Your right it scales with gear. A paladin who has 500-600 spell damage would generate a ton of threat. Yet a paladin starting off with only blue avoidance gear and maybe 1 or 2 pieces of crappy spell damage gear will have no threat. A paladin can only be better at single mob tanking than a warrior if he had the best gear in the game.
zoomie6421 3 years ago
Paladin tanks are better than warrior tanks IMO. Warrior tanks can handle single mob threat better than a paladin, but a paladin can STILL handle single mob threat very well. Warriors can NOT hold as many mobs nearly as good, or nearly as many, as a paladin tank can. Paladin tanks are more versatile, and the fact that they can have a good healing set and spam flash of light and be a backup healer in fights makes them more useful than a warrior who can only wannabe dps if they don't tank.
zoomie6421 3 years ago
iPodguy0.. Ofc you can do bubble! When you do bubble, do righteous defense and then you have agro for the time the righteous defense last, but you have to remove the bubble before rightous defense drops, or else you will lose agro again
huttafutta 3 years ago
i tanked this guy as a prot pally at 69....hes easy just the fears annoy me =/
Nutmikk 4 years ago
sadly you cant enter heroics till you are lvl 70... so pew pew, and have a cookie for your made up stories
SildRain 4 years ago
yeah you can, been in heroic sl at 69 on my priest...please think before you speak
WoWisalotoffun 4 years ago
SildRain, he could have ment that he did tank him on normal mode, he didnt say that he did it on heroic, you can eat that cookie yourself, bitch.
IzeTheJukebox 4 years ago 3
Nicely done. for the gauntlet right after that, check out "pallys can't tank heroic shattered halls". We've got the run down to 45 min heroic from zone-in to portal out, all melee group. Pally is essentially the Tank-CC, while the dps focus fire down mobs systematically .
00Aquilino00 4 years ago
tankadin ftw, am 1 myself :P
soul516 4 years ago
tankadin ftw!
yonarspally 4 years ago
escalibur is right... palas are the main healer in tbc.... tank palas feral dudu were improved in tbc but still cant tank as good as warris
SidneyBlock 4 years ago
im a lvl 70 warr in TK and SSC and let me tell you , for multiple mobs theres nothing better than a tankadin.
deathsythe12 4 years ago 3
wtf is excaliburr saying
alexoracheff9 4 years ago
it took to long my group downed that boss in like 1:20 but thats was just once though lol
slipknotvw 4 years ago
heroic SL wat harder
bloodelf1227 4 years ago
yawn.. that took way to long to kill that boss.
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FREAKYFABLE 4 years ago
Very nice
helldudeXD 4 years ago 2
Excaliburr831. are you 3 years old? LEARN TO FUCKING SPELL YOU DICKHEAD
deathwish1992 4 years ago 2
EL EM AYE OH
vagenis 4 years ago
the song kicks ass you snitches
snitches get stitches
bumperrrrr 4 years ago
healer nab, always spamming Holy light
Bestdrad 4 years ago
what is the song name? Great video!!
ninjasailing 4 years ago
That music sucks.... Hiphop is something for little children....
ppoleee 4 years ago
I hate hiphop myself, I hate rap
I hate the people who made it too.
Numanumaki 4 years ago
I hate both, but damn, this song isnt so bad
zerodyme6 4 years ago
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kara=free epics place imo. same as druids pallys are imba in 5 manners but when ya come to gruuls/maggy warriors just take less damage thats a fackt.
excaliburr831 4 years ago
Warriors absorb more damage, paladins have more ways to get their own health back. If you factor in judgement and seal of light into overall mitigation, paladins will come out above warriors and druids every time.
p8ntballphreak 4 years ago 2
Gruuls and Maggy are free epics. I tank both with a Paladin. Thank god you read the internet and became such an expert on us.
plaestic 4 years ago
well pallys can be good at tanking but warriors are the main and best tanking class, all hybrid classes can be good at different things but are best at one and 4 pallys its healing. read up some interveiw with the leading guild in the world and you will c thats what they say. ofc all are free to do what they want but my palla is were he sopoed to be in holy.
excaliburr831 4 years ago
Fine, keeping thinking like that, i just OWNED Kara 2 hours ago without wiping once. 12k HP unbuffedm 1 epic, all rares. Easy shit,
PalaTank
Rainwarning 4 years ago
Very nice... :-)
pallys are excellent tanks, I managed to prove myself to 3rd in progress raid guild on my server as a tank. Now I tank all Kara, SSC, pfft.. Three 6 Mafia the music aint it? =P
ryder187mac 4 years ago
normally when i tank, i have a pally healer and a shaman healer, for one, so i can have BoSanc, have kings andhave stoneskin totem and other shit ect ect, i keep devo on while the other pally keeps ret aura, i hit AW, trinket, toss sheild, judge righteous, the jduge crusader and jsut keep going at it, not hard
Draelok23 4 years ago
ya we can tank wo the aoe but , we tank multiple mobs well and this helps other classes use there aoe/ multi shot what ev on more targets wo pulling aggro , on single non boss pulls we dont use it , unless ur rollin with a heavy dpser who likes to pull aggro
angelesxxx 4 years ago
Can paladins tank without the aoe?
Beefdipings 4 years ago
yes, but it is harder. we need to burn the ground to make holding agg easier
Rainwarning 4 years ago
Well, yea, it helps a lot , but if its not for multiple MOBS and you can hold aggro really good w/o I advise usin it for mob aggro mostly, if ur takin on a boss, try savin a lil bit of mana if u a lil low on it, I usually bust it out on bosses and huge Mobs
zerodyme6 4 years ago
Had a pally tank SH, group makeup holy priest, mage, rogue, hunter, and obviously the pally. we didnt need to use CC at all he was able to hold agro on everything. than at kargath he tanked him and all adds. it was easy to keep him topped off also. pally tanks are coming up. i just think they need to try and stop dpsing, tank or healers what their best at.
Jesaus07 4 years ago
yea pally dps is a waste they could be alot more usefull if they tank or heal since dps is for mages rogues locks and hunters
gashuffer51 4 years ago
My name is Julz character name Megiddo, GM of Praetorian Guard on Darrowmere. Ask Blizzard, paladin tanks are here to stay. I am the MT for my guild and we're up to shade in Karazhan. I have also tanked most heroics and I am exalted with all 5 factions. Pally tanks FTW.
JulianWinnfield 4 years ago
HORDE RULLZ U NUB!
lospedros 4 years ago
pally tanks aren't that bad, we've used pally tanks in parts of kara
Mattefuller 4 years ago
Horde suck :p Alliance ftw !! pally tanks rule! viva la resistance!! etc
Tonks88 4 years ago
BTW this is the easiest boss of all outland heroic or otherwise
xplosivepizza 4 years ago
Paladins generate more threat than warriors or druid tanks, you being alliance should know that by now....also this boss is BY FAR not the easiest Heroic boss...i know of many that are laughable.....and the fact that they made it to the boss is an acomplishment, the trash before him involves killing packs of mobs some with 6+ elites that can all one shot a clothy...
TheHeysues 4 years ago
yeah if you want a real tank get a drood or a warrior. only reason this vid is up to prove how hard it is to have a pally tank. they have shit melee and shit heals. a all round shit class imo
xplosivepizza 4 years ago
hater ~~
Mitho77 4 years ago
Yeah but they can tank like hell, shithead now go away and die a slowly death, gimp.
DieHardjagged 4 years ago
You never seen a paladin tank have you there the best tanks in the game warriors are panzys and droods need to Learn to heal.
Kelo60 4 years ago
BEEEAETCH L2P Nublet. Paladins make excellent tanks. I will give you 100$ RL cash (if you remember what that is) if you show me a tank that can tank a pack of 5+ mobs without losing aggro and be high in dmg meters...
ryder187mac 4 years ago
yeah only cause the hunter is redirecting all aggro to tank. only tanking because of the hunter. put a destruction lock and mage in their, you wont have a pally tank :) and horde sux. and they look like shit in gear.
xplosivepizza 4 years ago
Wow, l2p. Pally tanks are coming up in the world, learn to deal with it. We are good at it too. The hunter is redirecting aggro because the pally can't charge at the mob, rtard.
Finally finding a use for a hunter.
Plus, it's all about teamwork anyways, so go suck on your lollipop and go to middle school.
591r17 4 years ago
heh who needs charge when you have avengers shield? : ^ ^
sneakyrobber 4 years ago
Paladin tanks have the highest threat in the game ;)
Thank you, l2p :)
theRealJensaarai 4 years ago
I have a level 70 paladin (43holy-18prot) and I tank all 5 man instances and some heroics. I also off tank kara.
My 'regular' group consist of the following, 2 paladin (myself and a friend, healer), fire mage, destro lock, AND a shadow priest.
Needless to say that I can hold aggro from all of them with only 18 points in prot. Learn2Play and quit stating something you know nothing about.
ngv523 4 years ago
My (ex-)guild (I quit WoW before TBC) uses a paladin to MT a lot of raid bosses. Works great. Especially aoe tanking I hear.
Canyarion 4 years ago
LOL dudes are you shiting me i tanked SV with 3 mages a priest and me and didnt lose aggro but like 4 times.
Kelo60 4 years ago