Order = the fraction of chaos we can grasp. I don't buy the presumption that someone "created" it. I rather think everything just is in the sense of emptiness just is emptines. Why/who is a non sequitur built on delusions, which arise from lack of understanding. Lack of understanding because of: 1 Ignorance and witshfull thinking. 2 too small capacity - complex or less complex (which is subjectical) logical fallacies. It's functions and dynamics in circuits - system (everything).
okay,...im only 15 but im gana spend the rest of my life learning about this stuff cuz this science matters the most, of how we were made. God? or Science? we might not ever know.
My Grandfather worked at Bletchley park during the war.
All the family and I know is that he could speak many different languages & was not aloud to talk about what ever went on there(& that he was also sick of fucking Spam,which was hard to come by for most folk during those turbulent ration booked times)
I hope one day they release all of the info about the place during the second world war so maybe my grand kids(and mankind)might learn what the fuck exactly they were up to!
As a behavioral scientist who long studied Chaos and String Theory and quantum science in relation to human behavior in groups, I felt that this documentary made the complexity of the above more accessible to a general audience whether overly simplified, anthropomorphizing, and dramatic or not.
"A vid of knowledge and the complexity of the universe: 186,063 views.
Rebeca Black's "Friday" : 121,360,657 views."
Superb documentary but I was thinking what would science tell in next 100 years about same topic.This can be true but it isnt this is just human interpretation remember what Nietzsche said "All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.” or watch Solaris by Tarkovsky.
For even a relatively simple single cell organism, what created its DNA, the assembly instructions? ... Give me the evidence for a biological, or naturalistic, method for inert matter becoming self-aware ... how did Krebs cycle jump from anaerobic to aerobic, there's no explanation
@slack7639 Its like this: You personally have no explanation. You believe no one else has an explanation, nor ever will, and into this apparent gap in understanding you wish to drop in your own cherished notion, while lowering the evidence bar to it. Funny - I just Googled your question and came up with a lot of reading. But you don't really want an answer, do you. Its all just empty rhetoric.
@slack7639 from what u just said i assume u meant there is no explanation so u believe god did it? so let me just ask u this - he has the time to manually switch every single micro operations in a cell? and there are well over millions and millions in just the finger tip. hmmm.. sorry i sounded stupid. and thats maybe because ur rhetoric itself is just that to begin with! gotcha! and just to add, ur a self righteous homophobic bigot.
@kokosz33 i think you will find it was a team effort. originally the poles, english and french teams continued to decrypt the codes during ww2. definitely wasnt the yanks
@dpasque63 comon give the credit to the Poles. They broke the enigma before the war and when it seamed that the war is comeing they gave they knowledge to French and Brits. After that you can say it was a team effort of countinous decription of ever changing codes. All I see in BBC/ english movies is that the brits broke the enigma.
All the bickering on these posts is comedic. Let's face it-we're thrown into the world through birth, and NONE of us has a damn clue about what's going on ultimately. Science, religion-they're both just responses to existence, and they both play their parts. But if you religious folks take that stuff literally (the idea that you're going to die and go beyond the clouds to a benevolent father, etc.), then you're out of your minds and thinking on about a 10-year old level.
'How did we get here?' Simple. Read the book of Genesis. God called everything into existence by His power. Why make it all so difficult? If 'it' all began in a pond of muck somewhere then who created the muck? Come on folks. God exists and He sent Jesus to free you from spiritual death. Believe in Him. Trust Him. He loves you.
@JimBrinkley1 If god does exist explain why people who arent ready to die, die unexpectedly, why most wars are fought over religion, god etc and why he sends people to make everyone 'believe' in him?
@Aimz192 Most wars are not fought over religion but rather plunder (oil, gold, drugs, etc). No one can make you believe in Him. You have free will to reject Him or to embrace Him. Ppl who 'aren't ready' to die? No one is guaranteed tomorrow thats why TODAY is the day to choose to serve the Lord.
@JimBrinkley1 but how do you know the god thing with genesis happened?? were you there?? no. so you cant possibly know for sure! its just a theory. not a fact because it has not been proven
Narrator - "For the first time, I believe..." Wow, so much for science, he is back to religion at the get-go. lol Anyone can believe anything they want. Sand, driven by wind and gravity, into shapes, is not self organization. It appears to me Turing's theory falls on this point alone, since he doesn't consider outside forces to be a contributing factor.
@dharmanova Its called marketing - maybe a 300 page math text is more truthful - but will get 2 viewers - most laymen need to be drawn in with a more familiar context, so even if that leads to some distortions - its justified in the interests of introduction - those interested enough to pursue further will clear up the distortions in their further studies.
@dharmanova They do it so that the average population can understand it. :) Yes they do tend be rather anthropomorphous, but I think it helps people connect in the form of wonder and awe. So I imagine they deliberately do this too. I also believe that it is not possible to over-dramatize science :) dramatizing is of course just another part of anthropomorphism and honestly, it's one of primary ingredients that make the BBC's Horizon programs so captivating.
@dharmanova I mean just think about it, how many people out of the quarter of a million who have watched this show, would have been even slightly interested if it were simply a professor standing in front of a large dry erase board, explaining this stuff in complex detail? they would hit the back button instantly and or fall asleep.
This shows that God did not create the man, not even the life, or the Universe. It creates something a lot bigger and a lot simpler. It creates the laws of nature (you can call it "the verb") and then left it to evolve with free will. Creating an object its a lot easier than creating a law that allows the object to evolve naturally without its further intervention. Pretending God's permanent guide means fixing permanently a bad design. I don't agree.
At 1:26 he says, "I believe". That is a Religious statement, not a Scientific one.
The Mandelbrot set is self similar at all levels of magnification because in Math it has no dimensions. It does describe the real world, but only a little. The structure of a tree does look similar to the structure of it's branches, but one step up from a tree is a forest that looks nothing like a single tree and there are no structures that look anything tree-like at the cellular level. Complete nonsense.
brilliant report. though, in saying that noone, before Turing, had thought of descrbing nature using maths, ignores the work of wittgenstein - and Logic.
This mathematics must be formed by a natural geometry at the quantum level of the atoms. A process of symmetry forming and breaking that we see as chaos. Very interesting video!
@singenera you can't. self-aware beings like humans don't happen by coincidence, especially not in such a short period of time bc the odds are impossible. btw there's no such thing as chaotic laws, that's bs. it's either lawful or lawless but not both bc matter tends toward complete chaos. informative laws come by intelligent ordinance, not by chance bc chance isn't a creative force. without God as first cause, all you have is magic.
what is our basis of authority in saying that the universe is in uniformed condition? we can't put it in a test-tube & we can't reproduce it so that's unscientific. Whenever you step out of the bounds of reproducible events & start talking about origins & destinies, it becomes faith, not science. I swear, evil man will stoop to the most irrational premise to escape the authority of God. Even if that means saying that informative laws arise spontaneously with no intelligent ordinance. sad...
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y gravity is actually a negative. it's void so we can't put it in a tube either. we observe the effect & we give it a meaningful name: gravity. whenever you start speculating weather or not gravity holds ultimate purpose, that's theology, not reproducible science. btw this film is the one that pushes the ideal that "rape, murder, genocide, and slavery" isn't *really* objectively wrong. it tells us that there's no standard of good & we watch all evils in the world come from it.
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y yeah right. we act that our sciences have any authority on origins & destinies, as if we're the creators of the universe. man hates God.
@sKewbrain If man hates god why do we create them? And which god are you talking about? If it's the Abrahamic god then you run along and read your Bible or think about the idea of original sin.
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y we don't create them. they're satanically inspired & the only reason ppl take gods is either bc they're forced on us(overtly or manipulatively) or because the "gods" always promise to provide a way for us to be like gods. all religion teaches some form of self-righteousness & man will respond to that. man hates the true God bc the true God is Holy & therefore gives no leverage for evil man to be self-righteous. btw, what about original sin?
@sKewbrain You didn't answer my question, until you say which god you're talking about, I will continue with original sin. I made that very clear and you've failed to answer a basic and simple question.
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y my God is the absolutely Holy, eternal God of the Prophets. the sovereign mind that began ALL times & dimensional realities for it's own purposes. yes, the Father of the Christ. so what about original sin?
@sKewbrain We don't create them? Who do you think come up with ideas? And every religious person says their god is the true god, because you believe it doesn't make your god any more real than another.
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y I'm sure most religions are made up. It's foundational to the most basic of human reasoning to understand that law doesnt originate materially, but conceptually so behind the material reality, there is mind, not nothingness. for the most part, all religion stems from ancient Babylonian Luciferianism & it spread all over the world. Religion varied to a point but it's all pretty much the same. Paganism was based on sciences. they just used gods(persons) as a metaphors.
@FatmaReda and how do you exactly know 100 percent that those religions arent made up?? i mean how doo you exactlyy know. were you here at the begging of the earth? no! so there is no way you can possibly know that. this is exactly what chaos theory is about.
@trinity27777 it's mentioned in the 3 religions that these are the only religions that god has sent to human beings, and everyone should really stop when it comes to religion it's not something about scientific facts it's something about faith and belief, so you're right i wasn't here but i still believe in my religion even though i'm not very religious, there's really somethings that you just have to believe that it's true even if you don't know why. :)
@sKewbrain Whether religions are made up or not they are the last part of humanity that still focuses on community. Marx was very right when he said the religion was the lesser of two evils, as we become more specialised we become more disassociated with our work and the human contribution of our work is lost forever. People become more depressed and isolated. I think this is why people seek religion I think.
@MotherOfAllBombs1 I am a die hard atheist and this is one of the best analyses i've read on this matter.regardless of whether i agree with you or not.i think that economic neo liberalism as a system functions towards dehumanisation of the society as it promotes pure competition and drives us back to jungle rules. religion can be a safe and easy to reach refuge.but people do not seek religion.they are being tought how to believe and in what god they should believe from the age of 2...
@sKewbrain Honestly I have a difficult time trying understand how it is that people still believe in this stuff. Science has quite literally crushed everything about it, "religion" to the point of overkill. I would have expected religion to go extinct after the enlightenment. It's like these people are lugging around a dead carcass. Bury that stinking lump of decomposing thought already!! lol The indoctrination of child is a very powerful thing indeed.
@lmos26 How can you believe that some atoms 'conspired' to make a human. or that grains of sand 'conspired' to make a sand dune. That is stupid and to swallow that bollocks because you watch it on the bbc and the 'man on the telly' said that it was scientific and stuff is mixing stupidity with more stupidity until you have a dumb cocktail of idiocy with a stupid umbrella in a dumb glass that self organised into some bollocks you could swallow. The 'dead carcass' your referring to is your brain.
@HashiSecure Okay you've taken the hysterical creationist "point" about the complexity of DNA being somehow comparable to a sand castle being built completely by random. "that's what you meant to say I think" which is the same as being dealt a particular set of cards and saying WOW, We could play cards for the rest of our lives and never be dealt that hand again! Now then, how I can believe in science is simple, Its where the evidence is & I don't believe in the ridicules and illogical.
@HashiSecure It's utterly pointless to debate with an ignorant and irrational personal, there are thousands of gods and myths of past beliefs and even separate beliefs around the world today that all argue that their myth is the absolute truth... you're entire "faith" is based off a manuscript, a human document, it has nothing to do with the world around you and contains no evidence and never will. it's fantasy, mere baseless claim and contradictory to all modern science.
@sKewbrain I believe religion is as old as our specie, homo sapiens sapiens. I do also believe that science is the inevitable end of religion and that there is something even mroe advanced than "normal" science, that our minds cannot even remotely grasp.
@GrimTheCrow when you start a sentence with "i do also believe...' and end it with "minds cannot even remotely grasp' in no way can you assume yourself to be holding the high ground of reason. You are not. I believe stupidity is as old as our species and the first time man concocted the idea that his arms and legs just attached themselves to his torso spontaneously, he gave birth to the first stupid thought. This was far superseded in this program and all the idiots who want to sound intelligent
@HashiSecure I can see on your reply that you did not understand what was betwen the beginning and the end. What i am saying is that we have no right to claim that we are unique. Right now someone can be worshipping god somewhere else in the universe... And somewhere else, someone got tired of worshipping and turning cheeks and went out to look for an answer instead.And that answers are to be found, and more questions to be asked, for ever. So thank you for seeing the smaller picture.
@sKewbrain 1) if your 'sure' religions are made up, what is this surety based upon? 2) to say 'Law' is not material, but a concept is a fallacy. the 'law' of gravity existed before man was there to say 'hey, thats gravity'.3) To then conclude that this means the 'mind' existed before the 'material' things is stupid. The universe existed before man and mans mind.4) to say 'all religions...." have you researched all 'religions'....nope!5) first religion recorded 'pyramid text' in a word 'egypt'
Come on people. It's a sendonic existance. Religon is hyper galorical frippery. Chaos is a man made word that desperatly trys to describe entropic tessinance. By the way. I'm drunk and I just made all that up.
Why can't people see that Religion is a man made thing?!?!? WAKE UP YOU IGNORANT FOOLS........GOD DID NOT MAKE MANKIND OR ANYTHING ELSE! I can't believe so many people can still live in a bubble when we know pretty much fully how we got here. Science should be the new religion.
So many ignorant religious assholes are holding humanity back!
What can science say scientifically about intention? It's a cop-out to talk about self-organization, an assumption based only on ignorance. Purpose and design are non-scientific subject matters. Science can not logically explain everything.
"I think so" is not a reliable guide to anything. Please show me where, in the development of a human being or any other creature, the 'chewed lump' (mudghah) stage occurs. Or how about the precise meaning of the sentence "Then we developed out of it another creature".
Don't get me wrong, these may be primitive descriptions of embryology, as seen by people who'd had to deal with miscarriages, both in livestock and humans, but it hardly stands up as 'precise' or 'prophesy'.
I don't "think" or "guess". The reality is that you very less or no knowledge about embryonic stages. First of all for your information the mudgah stage is a microscopic stage. You cannot see that stage with naked eye and so it is not possible to to find out that during a miscarriage. And yes the mudgah like stage exists. Stages from 28 to 42 days shows several bead-like somites which resemble the teeth marks. I will post a "neutral" link next.
You're attributing a lot to a vague interpretation of a verse from a pre-scientific book. Read ancient speculations on the universe & our place in it for what they are,& they can be a good insight into the people who wrote them & their world-picture. But they are neither prophecy nor anachronistic fore-knowledge, merely the thoughts of often quite intelligent people doing their best with what they had. You do them a disservice trying to read more into their words than they meant
On the other hand, that verse could equate to the Greek idea, & probably many others, of the four elements — earth, air, fire & water. Coal, after all, could be seen as containing both earth & fire, & it gives off smoke (earth & air), as it burns.
Not 'accurate' so much as it's a good example of much of the thinking of its time (and better, probably, than Europe's at that time) There's a good documentary by the same presenter on the science of Islam...
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Epic documentary that explain the complex theory into my understanding, and you guys don't fight about the religion things, the documentary basically doesn't discuss the existence of god, for theists, you can understand that god create the basic rule that the universe run, gravity, self-similarity,feedback, evolution,etc...just like put a seed into the earth and let it grow and we are one of the result of his creation. It may be different from what the church tells about god, but it makes sense.
This should be called, "The Secret life of Order". From just some primary elements the spectacular living things have prevailed and we are not realizing how amazing it all is? Which makes it easy to say God made us out of very cheap elements to what we are now. Be thankful of the GOD.
@pigeonpsycho I do not believe you are racist but I do believe you are an immature person looking for attention and it worked. Please do not do this again. It only reflects on you.
@pigeonpsycho If you're ever wondering what sort of person you are; what the measure of you is, take a look at your inbox. Your peers are usually pretty accurate. But the good news is; its just your behaviour, and therefore you can do something about it - improve it! :)
@JollSSteR Not long ago, NASA reported that two galaxies collided and stars were formed as a result, which will explode and release elements we are made of. Apparently chaos is something the universe is fond of.
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Heh, It appears as if ScopedOUT2 hasn't bothered to even read the Old Testament. The notion that the religions of Abraham were pure before they were corrupted by paganism is refuted in the bible itself. Read Numbers 5 and ask yourself what is pure about poisoning a woman with tainted water because her husband thinks she cheated on her. The notions of justice and law found in the old testament are hardly pinnacle's of human morality, untainted by disbelievers and nature worshipers.
Anybody who doubts how sinister govt can be, just needs to look at what they did to Turin. A man who helped crack the Enigma codes. After saving 1,000's of lives the govt convicted Turin of "GAYNESS", and as an alternative to prison he had to undergo injections to cure him of his malady.
Utterly disgusting. Im sure Turin would be happy to know it only took 60 + years for the British govt to apologise. Even more disgusting.
@justabout27 Im not bound by any dogma be it secular or religious. Ill be tolerant of religion when it stops encroaching on my life and the lives of others. Keep your delusional beliefs to yourselves and we'll be cool.
This is amazing information everyone should try to fully understand its implementations instead of arguing how it makes you feel. There is simple truth in nature everywhere if you look for it. Let go of your past beliefs and look forward to your future knowledge.
Order = the fraction of chaos we can grasp. I don't buy the presumption that someone "created" it. I rather think everything just is in the sense of emptiness just is emptines. Why/who is a non sequitur built on delusions, which arise from lack of understanding. Lack of understanding because of: 1 Ignorance and witshfull thinking. 2 too small capacity - complex or less complex (which is subjectical) logical fallacies. It's functions and dynamics in circuits - system (everything).
SaerdnaOoOoo 7 months ago
who is the composer of the song @ 1:34-2:50 ? and what's it called?
Rebane999 7 months ago
thank u a billion times eltororelajo, you have no idea how thrilled I am at the moment.
farhadjo0n 7 months ago
Does anybody know the track played at 2:55, this piano solo is drivin' me crazy!
what's its name!?!?!?!?!???!!?!?
the opening song is from avro part but i haven't achieved finding the track played at 2:55 I need HELP!!!!
farhadjo0n 7 months ago
@farhadjo0n
The track is actually Erik Satie Gnossienne #3
eltororelajo 7 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the song at the start??
Proteus6684 7 months ago
@Proteus6684
The track is Spiegel im Spiegel and you can listen to it here:
farhadjo0n 7 months ago
The framework is the structure of the universe that allows it to happen. The mathematics and chaos we witness is a symptom.
benbennit 7 months ago
indigenous people have known this for millions of years. this is our religion, our way of life...
ObafemiO 8 months ago
okay,...im only 15 but im gana spend the rest of my life learning about this stuff cuz this science matters the most, of how we were made. God? or Science? we might not ever know.
llamascanplaynitendo 8 months ago
@llamascanplaynitendo
Keep an open mind and simply ask honest questions!(The truth has a wonderful way of revealing itself when approached prudently.)
RandomVortex 8 months ago
My Grandfather worked at Bletchley park during the war.
All the family and I know is that he could speak many different languages & was not aloud to talk about what ever went on there(& that he was also sick of fucking Spam,which was hard to come by for most folk during those turbulent ration booked times)
I hope one day they release all of the info about the place during the second world war so maybe my grand kids(and mankind)might learn what the fuck exactly they were up to!
We won!
RandomVortex 8 months ago
what a movie..watched 5 times in webmovietube
EmileSzafranski 8 months ago
David Bohm is a place to begin learning about the relation between string theory and human behavior: Holonomonic Brain Model, etc.
TheHappyDancing 8 months ago
im so high
chancethepants 8 months ago
@chancethepants good choice of video then XD
letsgetverydrunk 8 months ago
As a behavioral scientist who long studied Chaos and String Theory and quantum science in relation to human behavior in groups, I felt that this documentary made the complexity of the above more accessible to a general audience whether overly simplified, anthropomorphizing, and dramatic or not.
TheHappyDancing 9 months ago 2
@TheHappyDancing
How in the world does String Theory relate to human behavior?
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 8 months ago
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TheHappyDancing 9 months ago
awesome docu
seigneurvoland666 9 months ago
I just cant believe this,chaos!
"A vid of knowledge and the complexity of the universe: 186,063 views.
Rebeca Black's "Friday" : 121,360,657 views."
Superb documentary but I was thinking what would science tell in next 100 years about same topic.This can be true but it isnt this is just human interpretation remember what Nietzsche said "All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.” or watch Solaris by Tarkovsky.
danijeelm8 9 months ago
For even a relatively simple single cell organism, what created its DNA, the assembly instructions? ... Give me the evidence for a biological, or naturalistic, method for inert matter becoming self-aware ... how did Krebs cycle jump from anaerobic to aerobic, there's no explanation
slack7639 9 months ago
@slack7639 Its like this: You personally have no explanation. You believe no one else has an explanation, nor ever will, and into this apparent gap in understanding you wish to drop in your own cherished notion, while lowering the evidence bar to it. Funny - I just Googled your question and came up with a lot of reading. But you don't really want an answer, do you. Its all just empty rhetoric.
2cabs2toucan 9 months ago
@slack7639 from what u just said i assume u meant there is no explanation so u believe god did it? so let me just ask u this - he has the time to manually switch every single micro operations in a cell? and there are well over millions and millions in just the finger tip. hmmm.. sorry i sounded stupid. and thats maybe because ur rhetoric itself is just that to begin with! gotcha! and just to add, ur a self righteous homophobic bigot.
galaxywalker3000 9 months ago
When the english will stop lying abaut thow cracked the enigma?
kokosz33 9 months ago
@kokosz33 i think you will find it was a team effort. originally the poles, english and french teams continued to decrypt the codes during ww2. definitely wasnt the yanks
dpasque63 9 months ago
@dpasque63 comon give the credit to the Poles. They broke the enigma before the war and when it seamed that the war is comeing they gave they knowledge to French and Brits. After that you can say it was a team effort of countinous decription of ever changing codes. All I see in BBC/ english movies is that the brits broke the enigma.
kokosz33 9 months ago
@kokosz33 more accurate than U-571
dpasque63 9 months ago
A vid of knowledge and the complexity of the universe: 186,063 views.
Rebeca Black's "Friday" : 121,360,657 views.
Who else thinks we should bring back survival of the fittest?
kickymcface 10 months ago 7
what made them choose this little ugly twit to be the host?
longfootbuddy 10 months ago
why do I see a blank green screen??
solidarity2205 10 months ago
@solidarity2205 . Try right clicking and disabling hardware acceleration. The update to flash player 10.2 required this of me.
benjammin2ya 10 months ago
@benjammin2ya That worked!! Thanks a ton!!
solidarity2205 10 months ago
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benjammin2ya 10 months ago
did anyone else see that old guys look at him like he was crazy
0:34
15eshabani 10 months ago
jim al-khalili is awesome
0ptimusbibIe 10 months ago
All the bickering on these posts is comedic. Let's face it-we're thrown into the world through birth, and NONE of us has a damn clue about what's going on ultimately. Science, religion-they're both just responses to existence, and they both play their parts. But if you religious folks take that stuff literally (the idea that you're going to die and go beyond the clouds to a benevolent father, etc.), then you're out of your minds and thinking on about a 10-year old level.
hotfingersandwich 10 months ago
'How did we get here?' Simple. Read the book of Genesis. God called everything into existence by His power. Why make it all so difficult? If 'it' all began in a pond of muck somewhere then who created the muck? Come on folks. God exists and He sent Jesus to free you from spiritual death. Believe in Him. Trust Him. He loves you.
JimBrinkley1 11 months ago
@JimBrinkley1 If god does exist explain why people who arent ready to die, die unexpectedly, why most wars are fought over religion, god etc and why he sends people to make everyone 'believe' in him?
Aimz192 11 months ago
@Aimz192 Most wars are not fought over religion but rather plunder (oil, gold, drugs, etc). No one can make you believe in Him. You have free will to reject Him or to embrace Him. Ppl who 'aren't ready' to die? No one is guaranteed tomorrow thats why TODAY is the day to choose to serve the Lord.
JimBrinkley1 10 months ago
@JimBrinkley1 Pathetic.
Galaxy360 11 months ago
@JimBrinkley1 but how do you know the god thing with genesis happened?? were you there?? no. so you cant possibly know for sure! its just a theory. not a fact because it has not been proven
trinity27777 9 months ago
This is just one gigantic show for getting baked :)
Thumbs up from the smokers!!!!
mulisharobbo 11 months ago
Narrator - "For the first time, I believe..." Wow, so much for science, he is back to religion at the get-go. lol Anyone can believe anything they want. Sand, driven by wind and gravity, into shapes, is not self organization. It appears to me Turing's theory falls on this point alone, since he doesn't consider outside forces to be a contributing factor.
barto11000 11 months ago
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still cant beleive that watched this movie in webmovietube for completely free
dodiemuehleisen50 11 months ago
Great vid.
Except BBC as usual always oversimplifies over-anthropomorphiizes and overdramatizes :-)))
dharmanova 1 year ago 27
@dharmanova Maybe poppers beforehand would get you into the mode.
malkooth 8 months ago
@dharmanova they should have consulted you first.
hitikan 8 months ago
@dharmanova Its called marketing - maybe a 300 page math text is more truthful - but will get 2 viewers - most laymen need to be drawn in with a more familiar context, so even if that leads to some distortions - its justified in the interests of introduction - those interested enough to pursue further will clear up the distortions in their further studies.
BiggerThinking1 8 months ago 3
@dharmanova Least it's not the History Channel!
JamesMulvale 7 months ago
@dharmanova They do it so that the average population can understand it. :) Yes they do tend be rather anthropomorphous, but I think it helps people connect in the form of wonder and awe. So I imagine they deliberately do this too. I also believe that it is not possible to over-dramatize science :) dramatizing is of course just another part of anthropomorphism and honestly, it's one of primary ingredients that make the BBC's Horizon programs so captivating.
lmos26 7 months ago
@dharmanova I mean just think about it, how many people out of the quarter of a million who have watched this show, would have been even slightly interested if it were simply a professor standing in front of a large dry erase board, explaining this stuff in complex detail? they would hit the back button instantly and or fall asleep.
lmos26 7 months ago
Order from chaos. The motto of the powerful elite.
geoffhang10 1 year ago
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celf organized, what a pun
TDLouwman 1 year ago
self organized, what a pun
TDLouwman 1 year ago
webmovietube is the best place to watch movies onle for free..njoy
amielanquist41 1 year ago
We are the universe waking, and I at least, find myself obliged to learn more.
ZenithPlacidity 1 year ago
Science wins!. There is no god or purposes in nature!
asiduodiego 1 year ago
@asiduodiego that's a bit short sighted
tolstoythegreat 11 months ago
Autechre ftw
EverythingSpirals 1 year ago
This shows that God did not create the man, not even the life, or the Universe. It creates something a lot bigger and a lot simpler. It creates the laws of nature (you can call it "the verb") and then left it to evolve with free will. Creating an object its a lot easier than creating a law that allows the object to evolve naturally without its further intervention. Pretending God's permanent guide means fixing permanently a bad design. I don't agree.
ernestorocau 1 year ago
At 1:26 he says, "I believe". That is a Religious statement, not a Scientific one.
The Mandelbrot set is self similar at all levels of magnification because in Math it has no dimensions. It does describe the real world, but only a little. The structure of a tree does look similar to the structure of it's branches, but one step up from a tree is a forest that looks nothing like a single tree and there are no structures that look anything tree-like at the cellular level. Complete nonsense.
mrjaybird2005 1 year ago
539847283999504938495967483930582784859403948587772849403938 atoms liked this video.
outlivedtint 1 year ago
brilliant report. though, in saying that noone, before Turing, had thought of descrbing nature using maths, ignores the work of wittgenstein - and Logic.
TheSexyNessie 1 year ago
We were put here.
ERICWAGNERSLUCID 1 year ago
This mathematics must be formed by a natural geometry at the quantum level of the atoms. A process of symmetry forming and breaking that we see as chaos. Very interesting video!
nickharvey7 1 year ago
444 fell on my like. thats better than 333 isnt it :)
philos4r 1 year ago
We may have different pigment and different hair but we are all African.
JulesManson 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of the producer and title of the great introductory music in this film. I wish to obtain it.
JulesManson 1 year ago
@JulesManson the music is arvo part's "spiegel im spiegel"
DanielMcDrtcomposer 1 year ago
@DanielMcDrtcomposer Thank you for this. I just checked it out and I love it.
JulesManson 1 year ago
@JulesManson
Arvo Pärt "Spiegel im Spiegel"
19Edurne 11 months ago
This is a brilliant film that comes closest to proving that we are a product of an inevitable "accident" of nature.
JulesManson 1 year ago
Energy and information that all we are. Give it a stir and the ripples create everything else.
Benbennit - Youtube Proverbs 1:12
benbennit 1 year ago
@singenera you can't. self-aware beings like humans don't happen by coincidence, especially not in such a short period of time bc the odds are impossible. btw there's no such thing as chaotic laws, that's bs. it's either lawful or lawless but not both bc matter tends toward complete chaos. informative laws come by intelligent ordinance, not by chance bc chance isn't a creative force. without God as first cause, all you have is magic.
sKewbrain 1 year ago
what is our basis of authority in saying that the universe is in uniformed condition? we can't put it in a test-tube & we can't reproduce it so that's unscientific. Whenever you step out of the bounds of reproducible events & start talking about origins & destinies, it becomes faith, not science. I swear, evil man will stoop to the most irrational premise to escape the authority of God. Even if that means saying that informative laws arise spontaneously with no intelligent ordinance. sad...
sKewbrain 1 year ago
@sKewbrain The same authority that commands rape, murder, genocide, and slavery? We can't reproduce gravity in a test tube, your point is?
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y gravity is actually a negative. it's void so we can't put it in a tube either. we observe the effect & we give it a meaningful name: gravity. whenever you start speculating weather or not gravity holds ultimate purpose, that's theology, not reproducible science. btw this film is the one that pushes the ideal that "rape, murder, genocide, and slavery" isn't *really* objectively wrong. it tells us that there's no standard of good & we watch all evils in the world come from it.
sKewbrain 1 year ago
Stalin was religious , he belives in comunism . Fuck the comunism and also capitalism . At the end that will doesnt matter .
MultiMetaldemon 1 year ago
everybody hates God
sKewbrain 1 year ago
@sKewbrain It's the other way around.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y yeah right. we act that our sciences have any authority on origins & destinies, as if we're the creators of the universe. man hates God.
sKewbrain 1 year ago
@sKewbrain If man hates god why do we create them? And which god are you talking about? If it's the Abrahamic god then you run along and read your Bible or think about the idea of original sin.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y we don't create them. they're satanically inspired & the only reason ppl take gods is either bc they're forced on us(overtly or manipulatively) or because the "gods" always promise to provide a way for us to be like gods. all religion teaches some form of self-righteousness & man will respond to that. man hates the true God bc the true God is Holy & therefore gives no leverage for evil man to be self-righteous. btw, what about original sin?
sKewbrain 1 year ago
@sKewbrain You didn't answer my question, until you say which god you're talking about, I will continue with original sin. I made that very clear and you've failed to answer a basic and simple question.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y my God is the absolutely Holy, eternal God of the Prophets. the sovereign mind that began ALL times & dimensional realities for it's own purposes. yes, the Father of the Christ. so what about original sin?
sKewbrain 1 year ago
@sKewbrain We don't create them? Who do you think come up with ideas? And every religious person says their god is the true god, because you believe it doesn't make your god any more real than another.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@SQuiRR3LM0nk3y I'm sure most religions are made up. It's foundational to the most basic of human reasoning to understand that law doesnt originate materially, but conceptually so behind the material reality, there is mind, not nothingness. for the most part, all religion stems from ancient Babylonian Luciferianism & it spread all over the world. Religion varied to a point but it's all pretty much the same. Paganism was based on sciences. they just used gods(persons) as a metaphors.
sKewbrain 1 year ago 18
@sKewbrain Islam, Christianity and Judaism are the only religions that aren't made up
FatmaReda 9 months ago
@FatmaReda and how do you exactly know 100 percent that those religions arent made up?? i mean how doo you exactlyy know. were you here at the begging of the earth? no! so there is no way you can possibly know that. this is exactly what chaos theory is about.
trinity27777 9 months ago
@trinity27777 it's mentioned in the 3 religions that these are the only religions that god has sent to human beings, and everyone should really stop when it comes to religion it's not something about scientific facts it's something about faith and belief, so you're right i wasn't here but i still believe in my religion even though i'm not very religious, there's really somethings that you just have to believe that it's true even if you don't know why. :)
FatmaReda 9 months ago
@sKewbrain but dude what about buddhism or taoism, im sure their not based in Babylonian Luciferianism?
davemadfish 9 months ago
@sKewbrain Whether religions are made up or not they are the last part of humanity that still focuses on community. Marx was very right when he said the religion was the lesser of two evils, as we become more specialised we become more disassociated with our work and the human contribution of our work is lost forever. People become more depressed and isolated. I think this is why people seek religion I think.
MotherOfAllBombs1 9 months ago
@MotherOfAllBombs1 I am a die hard atheist and this is one of the best analyses i've read on this matter.regardless of whether i agree with you or not.i think that economic neo liberalism as a system functions towards dehumanisation of the society as it promotes pure competition and drives us back to jungle rules. religion can be a safe and easy to reach refuge.but people do not seek religion.they are being tought how to believe and in what god they should believe from the age of 2...
LIBIOS 9 months ago
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@sKewbrain Not most all of them are.
Kryptsanies 8 months ago
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@sKewbrain You are an ignoramus.
hairysuit 7 months ago
@sKewbrain Honestly I have a difficult time trying understand how it is that people still believe in this stuff. Science has quite literally crushed everything about it, "religion" to the point of overkill. I would have expected religion to go extinct after the enlightenment. It's like these people are lugging around a dead carcass. Bury that stinking lump of decomposing thought already!! lol The indoctrination of child is a very powerful thing indeed.
lmos26 7 months ago
@lmos26 How can you believe that some atoms 'conspired' to make a human. or that grains of sand 'conspired' to make a sand dune. That is stupid and to swallow that bollocks because you watch it on the bbc and the 'man on the telly' said that it was scientific and stuff is mixing stupidity with more stupidity until you have a dumb cocktail of idiocy with a stupid umbrella in a dumb glass that self organised into some bollocks you could swallow. The 'dead carcass' your referring to is your brain.
HashiSecure 7 months ago
@HashiSecure Okay you've taken the hysterical creationist "point" about the complexity of DNA being somehow comparable to a sand castle being built completely by random. "that's what you meant to say I think" which is the same as being dealt a particular set of cards and saying WOW, We could play cards for the rest of our lives and never be dealt that hand again! Now then, how I can believe in science is simple, Its where the evidence is & I don't believe in the ridicules and illogical.
lmos26 7 months ago
@HashiSecure It's utterly pointless to debate with an ignorant and irrational personal, there are thousands of gods and myths of past beliefs and even separate beliefs around the world today that all argue that their myth is the absolute truth... you're entire "faith" is based off a manuscript, a human document, it has nothing to do with the world around you and contains no evidence and never will. it's fantasy, mere baseless claim and contradictory to all modern science.
lmos26 7 months ago
@sKewbrain I believe religion is as old as our specie, homo sapiens sapiens. I do also believe that science is the inevitable end of religion and that there is something even mroe advanced than "normal" science, that our minds cannot even remotely grasp.
GrimTheCrow 7 months ago
@GrimTheCrow when you start a sentence with "i do also believe...' and end it with "minds cannot even remotely grasp' in no way can you assume yourself to be holding the high ground of reason. You are not. I believe stupidity is as old as our species and the first time man concocted the idea that his arms and legs just attached themselves to his torso spontaneously, he gave birth to the first stupid thought. This was far superseded in this program and all the idiots who want to sound intelligent
HashiSecure 7 months ago
@HashiSecure I can see on your reply that you did not understand what was betwen the beginning and the end. What i am saying is that we have no right to claim that we are unique. Right now someone can be worshipping god somewhere else in the universe... And somewhere else, someone got tired of worshipping and turning cheeks and went out to look for an answer instead.And that answers are to be found, and more questions to be asked, for ever. So thank you for seeing the smaller picture.
GrimTheCrow 7 months ago
@HashiSecure Or you could say: Sience is an attempt to answer the questions provided by a previous answer. A fractal.
Religions were also a seeking for an answer and many found it in religion itself.
GrimTheCrow 7 months ago
@sKewbrain 1) if your 'sure' religions are made up, what is this surety based upon? 2) to say 'Law' is not material, but a concept is a fallacy. the 'law' of gravity existed before man was there to say 'hey, thats gravity'.3) To then conclude that this means the 'mind' existed before the 'material' things is stupid. The universe existed before man and mans mind.4) to say 'all religions...." have you researched all 'religions'....nope!5) first religion recorded 'pyramid text' in a word 'egypt'
HashiSecure 7 months ago
EXCELLENT DOCUMENTARY, Just finished watching the entire thing, very nice.
marcuelcajon 1 year ago
bbc done some really good docs but this one seems complete bullshit.
1spiders1 1 year ago
Come on people. It's a sendonic existance. Religon is hyper galorical frippery. Chaos is a man made word that desperatly trys to describe entropic tessinance. By the way. I'm drunk and I just made all that up.
deniapavao 1 year ago
Why can't people see that Religion is a man made thing?!?!? WAKE UP YOU IGNORANT FOOLS........GOD DID NOT MAKE MANKIND OR ANYTHING ELSE! I can't believe so many people can still live in a bubble when we know pretty much fully how we got here. Science should be the new religion.
So many ignorant religious assholes are holding humanity back!
kkristiekevin 1 year ago
how did we get here...?
HERE IS WHERE WE ARE! be HERE, please. we miss you.
mscalco1 1 year ago
I don't know how they can say that no one had thought of this before. Have they not heard of Pythagoras?
I guess not. Or else they're ignoring him to ascribe to Turing a greater originality to his idea.
bahramf 1 year ago
What can science say scientifically about intention? It's a cop-out to talk about self-organization, an assumption based only on ignorance. Purpose and design are non-scientific subject matters. Science can not logically explain everything.
Erucaale 1 year ago
Chaos creates life. It's as simple as that.
maksphoto78 1 year ago
O really? And i thought it was DNA that did that! Oh yea, it is. :)
lFlash4 1 year ago
what is the music in the backgroud
solemnsoul17 1 year ago
@troublesomeD
"I think so" is not a reliable guide to anything. Please show me where, in the development of a human being or any other creature, the 'chewed lump' (mudghah) stage occurs. Or how about the precise meaning of the sentence "Then we developed out of it another creature".
Don't get me wrong, these may be primitive descriptions of embryology, as seen by people who'd had to deal with miscarriages, both in livestock and humans, but it hardly stands up as 'precise' or 'prophesy'.
DazDixie666 1 year ago
@DazDixie666
I don't "think" or "guess". The reality is that you very less or no knowledge about embryonic stages. First of all for your information the mudgah stage is a microscopic stage. You cannot see that stage with naked eye and so it is not possible to to find out that during a miscarriage. And yes the mudgah like stage exists. Stages from 28 to 42 days shows several bead-like somites which resemble the teeth marks. I will post a "neutral" link next.
intdx 1 year ago
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@troublesomeD your so off. yet you think your spot on.
kr00ked 1 year ago
who is playing the piano on the 3rd minute
gazanvishap 1 year ago
@troublesomeD
You're attributing a lot to a vague interpretation of a verse from a pre-scientific book. Read ancient speculations on the universe & our place in it for what they are,& they can be a good insight into the people who wrote them & their world-picture. But they are neither prophecy nor anachronistic fore-knowledge, merely the thoughts of often quite intelligent people doing their best with what they had. You do them a disservice trying to read more into their words than they meant
DazDixie666 1 year ago
@troublesomeD
On the other hand, that verse could equate to the Greek idea, & probably many others, of the four elements — earth, air, fire & water. Coal, after all, could be seen as containing both earth & fire, & it gives off smoke (earth & air), as it burns.
Not 'accurate' so much as it's a good example of much of the thinking of its time (and better, probably, than Europe's at that time) There's a good documentary by the same presenter on the science of Islam...
watch?v=TPlaS_wGzx8
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porscheghcje 1 year ago
Epic documentary that explain the complex theory into my understanding, and you guys don't fight about the religion things, the documentary basically doesn't discuss the existence of god, for theists, you can understand that god create the basic rule that the universe run, gravity, self-similarity,feedback, evolution,etc...just like put a seed into the earth and let it grow and we are one of the result of his creation. It may be different from what the church tells about god, but it makes sense.
oscarshu1985 1 year ago
We're all a part of the same energy
imdpower108 1 year ago
Love this song, forgotten the name of the composer...?
mrconcept 1 year ago
This should be called, "The Secret life of Order". From just some primary elements the spectacular living things have prevailed and we are not realizing how amazing it all is? Which makes it easy to say God made us out of very cheap elements to what we are now. Be thankful of the GOD.
fredfelosofar 1 year ago
Wait, so if I take all those things, mix them together, then microwave them, I'll make a baby?
SeaShellNecklaceBrah 1 year ago
@SeaShellNecklaceBrah your attempt at humor: failed.
hcortens 1 year ago
lithp
alexhamster1134 1 year ago
An excellent video! I hope to be 1/10th the man these great heroes were! :D
BinaryReaper 1 year ago
I am made of N2O, vodka, cocaine and hash.
Cakerolled 1 year ago 24
@Cakerolled
Don't forget the all important "Hot Air"
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docsein1 1 year ago
@Cakerolled don't forget niggers.
pigeonpsycho 1 year ago
@pigeonpsycho I do not believe you are racist but I do believe you are an immature person looking for attention and it worked. Please do not do this again. It only reflects on you.
JulesManson 1 year ago
@JulesManson And who am i? Just another anonymous player in the internet game. Nothing matters. So I'm going to say NIGGERS again.
pigeonpsycho 1 year ago
@pigeonpsycho If you're ever wondering what sort of person you are; what the measure of you is, take a look at your inbox. Your peers are usually pretty accurate. But the good news is; its just your behaviour, and therefore you can do something about it - improve it! :)
jeebersjumpincryst 1 year ago
@jeebersjumpincryst Nigger.
pigeonpsycho 1 year ago
@Cakerolled
Haha, I'm slightly more opiate based
Assaultpredator 1 year ago
i am made of poop, piss and butt cabbage
OrganicThumb420 11 months ago
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gunramazan 1 year ago
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gunramazan 1 year ago
i stepped out of a super nova, and so did you..
i suggest that everyone watch the video: Science saved my soul.. By: philhellenes Link: /watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk
Seriously the BEST fcking video ive ever seen!
Watch it if science gives your mind orgasm like it does to mine!
JollSSteR 1 year ago 46
@JollSSteR Thank you for this wonderful link! finally someone was able to clearly articulate our thoughts
mohieddinesaid 1 year ago
@JollSSteR Not long ago, NASA reported that two galaxies collided and stars were formed as a result, which will explode and release elements we are made of. Apparently chaos is something the universe is fond of.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@JollSSteR They showed pictures of it, the aftermath was green. Must taste like sour apple.
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
@JollSSteR Great Vid =) =D love it =P
00Avenger17 1 year ago
alan turing is a good mathematciaan.
bhaleraopramod15 1 year ago
@bhaleraopramod15 he was gay :p
alexhamster1134 1 year ago
@alexhamster1134 tthanx 4 ur comment
bhaleraopramod15 1 year ago
@alexhamster1134 who?
alexhamster1134 1 year ago
surely the most intriguing question we can ask is "who was phone?"
TheYaksik 1 year ago
HTRAE
JPiiiX 1 year ago
The average costs of the elements that make up a human costs only about a few pounds.....I feel very insignificant now.
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urgencyharviefcem 1 year ago
Heh, It appears as if ScopedOUT2 hasn't bothered to even read the Old Testament. The notion that the religions of Abraham were pure before they were corrupted by paganism is refuted in the bible itself. Read Numbers 5 and ask yourself what is pure about poisoning a woman with tainted water because her husband thinks she cheated on her. The notions of justice and law found in the old testament are hardly pinnacle's of human morality, untainted by disbelievers and nature worshipers.
sanssleep 1 year ago
Anybody who doubts how sinister govt can be, just needs to look at what they did to Turin. A man who helped crack the Enigma codes. After saving 1,000's of lives the govt convicted Turin of "GAYNESS", and as an alternative to prison he had to undergo injections to cure him of his malady.
Utterly disgusting. Im sure Turin would be happy to know it only took 60 + years for the British govt to apologise. Even more disgusting.
educate1self 1 year ago
We are but a tiny life form that is part of a greater life form. Easy solution once you think about it.
mtrudel0000 1 year ago
WHY THERE IS F!@#$% BUTTS IN THE RELATED VIDEOS
koutak1s 1 year ago
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TheAtxman8669 1 year ago
damn i only cost 5 bucks to make..but a million to keep running
TheAtxman8669 1 year ago
I think there's an aweful lot of consciousness going on at the quantum level actually , Hello !!! typical propaganda BBC !!!
telemicus75 1 year ago
I think there's an aweful lot of consciousness going on at the quantum level actually , Hello !!! typical propaganda BBC !!!
telemicus75 1 year ago
Confusion??? A too beautiful place like that?? i dont think so .......
and other think, only time will tell us who have the real truth. I really hope not to be in the wrong place when that day pass.....
pappysmp 1 year ago
Freshhhh11982... it never ceases to amaze me the intolerance of the self professed 'much better' tolerant secular humanity!?
justabout27 1 year ago
@justabout27 Im not bound by any dogma be it secular or religious. Ill be tolerant of religion when it stops encroaching on my life and the lives of others. Keep your delusional beliefs to yourselves and we'll be cool.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
This is amazing information everyone should try to fully understand its implementations instead of arguing how it makes you feel. There is simple truth in nature everywhere if you look for it. Let go of your past beliefs and look forward to your future knowledge.
ArturiusPendragon 1 year ago
I hate that I have to share the world with religious people. You make it a worse place.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago 16
@Freshhhhh1982 yep !
destructOzap 1 year ago