1. He may account his sharp Mongoloid features, decidedly bow-legged gait, or even slightly overbearing presentation style to his genes or connectomes (whatever that is!), but can obliviousness and a complete lack of self awareness also be accredited to gene expression or neuronal activity? (Cont.)
2.Identity and self-image is arrived at by triangulating how one views oneself, how one THINKS others view you, and how one WISHES to be viewed by others. And then interpolating all 3. The more objectivity an individual can express and the more variables that can be factored into the equation, the more accurate the assessment.
3. For example, the speakers angular facial features are decidedly masculine (opposed to the more rounded female form) and this can suggest aggression and hostility, the 2 most famous traits of the male. Also, the speakers widely spaced stance has a martial quality or at least can be perceived as arrogant, in taking up more space than is generally needed. (Cont.)
4. All this may simply be a weak attempt at being persuasive by means of delivering the presentation in a commanding manner that discourages questioning. Which in my mind is completely out of place in a peer reviewed symposium such as TED, and contravenes the very spirit of science and technology.
This guy's book "Connectome" is really good, elaborates on the ideas presented here. What a great gift to the world to write a book that begins to explain the amazing complexity and wonder of the human brain, and all of our promise and failings as well. I am halfway through the book and I agree with Dan Levitin's review of Seung's book that it is the best science book I have read.
@mamabari07 - OK..I'll call your bluff...Prove you have a PhD in Neuroscience. University, Your Name, Year of graduation and Doctoral Thesis...Then if you prove that...a better argument than " Junk" should follow..perhaps a counter argument worthy of a PhD
@dtekben1 No, I am not going to write my resume here.. There is a reason why this is not taken seriously - scientists have very painstakingly studied nervous system structure and connections over centuries (which is great), the problem of this approach is connections are NOT static, they are dynamic, changing in every 'ms' (therefore can not be mapped), it is like sequencing genome (you can sequence DNA which is static, but you can not study/compare proteome between cells which is more dynamic..
@dtekben1 I am not sure if you will understand this if you don't study this topic - I have seen these same slides for 1.5 years now :) nothing new has happened and meanwhile Seb has lost his HHMI funding.. :) :) this is why our nervous system is so unique because it can not be generalised and mapped.. (even if you know the maps and connections of cortex, you won't be able to predict its computational outcome which is an emergent property..) - this is why I said, get back to bench work..
this has always been a dream for decades, to solve it, and has even been a subject/topic of several movies including, the one i distinctly remember, deep blue sea :)
The human brain is a most unusual instrument of elegant and as yet unknown capacity....women brain are different from man brain...this is true but why?
@mahlerdude1 - "what a histrionic deliver". Most Ted talks that I've seen are. This, in my opinion, is one of the better ones, not strictly content wise, but also by delivery. Sometimes it takes this kind of pre-fab emotional delivery to sell an idea. I think he did a great job... on this one. I've seen one of his earlier talks and it was HORRIBLE. He is much improved.
He kind of said t himself. There is not much new in this. The basic theory is 100 years old and since then they have mapped the neural connection of a worm and found the brain to be very complex. Good to advertise important research and labour heavy projects but I feel a little cheated somehow.
sebastian: super great talk! we are working hard to support obtaining connectomes from experiments. in particular, the Open Connectome Project is now hosting a 12TB connectome from Bock et al (2011), with the ability to view/zoom/annotate/download. soon, an API will be released to facilitate uploading annotations, to start the process of alg-sourcing the image processing of these data. very exciting times!!!
If they could scan the mind, then they could download it. You could live forever in a computer program or travel across the universe and have your brain placed in a cyborg.
@icnithian - The human brain is a device; an extremely complex one, but a device nonetheless. We are experts at breaking down man-made devices as well as nature-made device. Consider the quest for understanding how traits are passed on from generation to generation: DNA. We will solve the riddle of the brain in time also. You should have no doubt about that.
@Zoiros85 Nah, neural networks are just a type of structure. It doesn't refer to any specific structure.
That's the difference between a connectome and the network that comprises it. The connectome is the specific configuration of the network and not the concept of a network. I guess you'd have to understand that not everyone's neural network is identical to understand the significance of a connectome.
cryonics is messing with the natural order of things below i talked about the insect world such as ants what ants do is break down decayed matter poop it out so it can create something new for future use devinely connected for purpose, with the use of cryonics you are taking out a piece of that order. There is a bible scripture that says man doesnt have wisdom to guide his own steps.
@TEEWEE01...and that's why "god" gave us a woman aside, specif. one at the time, if more, there would be just chaos and chaos is not good for people without understanding, right :)))
P.S. nothing new under the sun meaning cryonics is the same ideology of preserving the human body for reentering it for life after death the ancient egyptians over 6000 years ago did this even taking organs out of the body such as the brain & heart to reasemble this body for future use when the spirit or life force of this being could re-enter problem was they didnt have the power to do that reanimate the physical body with the spirit. I think cryonics is playing with fire you might have zombies
because its signals were messing with these organic insects natural signal. how was it shorting out the signal by basically electricuting it self ,to short out the electrical connection that powers that satelite signal. Has science gone to far are we mesing with devine signals out side of our cosmoses?
here is an observation about organic insects and their connection or communication with a higher source like that robot ant and its source of communication with its designer, here goes i had a satalite for television communication or cable communication any ways thes little ants built in the wall next to this satalite and purposely tried to short out the electrical connection with that satalite on the side of my house
if he claims thes robotic insects build off of stigmergy typo below sorry its a false thesis because any robot has someone behind that creation telling it what to build . The same with an ant or any other building species of insect. like a organic creature like an ant this robotic ant is connected to anther source telling it what to build.
im trying to talk with sebastian h. seung about his thesis on satalite communication on insects such as ants and its effects he had a theory or thesis about a robotic insect building without an inteligent design calling it stigmergy and the concept of stigmercy is that one creature (insect intelligent life ) can build something simular without any communication with another, but this is the thing-
Kurzweil thinks that we will map our brains in 2030, this guy talks about decades, generations.... hmmm, i think kurzweil may be right, because, he looks at this problem in wider perspective ( computers, nanotechnology, scaning resolutions, technology advancements , exponential growth of this technologies ) If we look at the past, 80's 90's ( genome project predictions etc) i think that i will encode my memories maybe in 2030 :)
There is no proof of free will as there is no proof of god. We experience our minds deliberating and choosing but really the choice is dependant on a lot of things except the romantic idea of an physically independent so-called free will.
Dr Seung is one of the most fluent and articulate, imaginative and inspiring science speakers I've seen since Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman. Fascinating ideas too!
@astrophonix He's very intelligent, and yes I know he's of Korean descent not Japanese, but his manner of speaking made me go "William Shatner and George Takei had a son!"
Just when I had just about lost faith in TED, the conference releases a talk like this and pulls me back! More minddazzling science and ballsy ideas TED!
Perhaps the best discription of the mind yet and without some metaphysical mumbo jumbo or vital force holding things together.
I always knew those in Cryonics were on to something. With Moore's law the conclusion of his test will play out sooner then most people expect. See Ray kurzweil and Project blue brain.
There is no way this person will be able to ascomplish what he wants. The complexity of the computation is more than that of the complexity of factorizing some Unbeliviably large numbers into its primes--which takes more than the lifetime of the known universe (according to lots of cosmological models)! It's a brilliant idea, but it will not be possible until an incredible revolution in computers comes (and it may not). Quantum computers have had virtualy no sucess, and they're the main posibli
The carved riverbed is the result of the stream of consciousness. The stream does not come out of the bed. In this case, the river bed and all its directions and connections are
the result of motion in consciousness. I am not my connectome. I AM.
@lordofthemystic Unfortunately you cannot prove this because even in the case of genetically identical twins, subtle differences in life experiences immediately shape (differently) the "bed." This a very strong argument for nurture's impact on genetics. So if you take the chicken/egg question, well i think genetics is the obvious egg and everything subsequent is experience. The bed in a sense has a very short half life before experience starts imparting the most dramatic changes.
@Hypnotron2006 What you're really saying is subtle differences in consciousness shape
the beds of twins to be different. Trying to define your being through physics is a waste of time. "The All is Mind; The Universe is Mental." Keep looking closer and closer, until it
Nope, not falsifiable. No matter how hard you try, nor how motivated. A fools errand. You are not just your "connectome". Thats one small cog in a larger wheel.
I love TED...I feel like I am LITEARLLY on the cutting edge of tech/ knowledge when I watch these, as they are so informative as well as inspirational
@matrixistrue - No more than you do. If you was trying to make a snide comment about Africans then perhaps this might not be the best place for those comments. Children don't tend to watch TED talks.
The success of this kind of research is the sharpest double edged sword I can think of. If someone does for DNA what George Boole did for Digital Data, there will be a revolution of incalculable magnitude at hand. The rise of the superhuman will initiate, stemming from us to the first superhuman and a few steps up, an omniscient being will eventually emerge. True humans will be as significant as is an ape today. Super-humans would have more than 5 senses and all of them would be super sharp.
Absolutely the most interesting and Connectome changing lecture i heard. Zen people can only feel this, but Sebastain Seung really makes a beautiful connection between Zen and Pure Cultivating Science!!!
As many have said before, the amount of idiotic comments in contrast to the often-times brilliance delivered through the TED-talks is the perfect cure against optimism about a greater tomorrow.
Why is it that so many people are stuck in the notion that humankind has met it's expiration-date on Science, innovation, progress and development?
i am a combination of my value system and my accumilated Character (a selected collection of habbits of character traits) where each component of my value system and each individual character trait vibrates at its unique frequency... the brain that is in this body has its own charactristics that doesnt relate to who i really am ... so only a portion of my totality is expressed in this tiny physical brain and in this human physical body
Non falsifiable hypothesis. Sounds interesting but its a dead end. "You as a connectome" can never be tested. Perhaps to predict certain behavior, but only at a rough level.
@qigong1001 Well it is falsifiable, given technology that can accurately simulate conectomes. If any particular characteristic that is deemed intrinsic to the overall personality of a person is lost once translating a mind to a connectome, then the theory falsified.
@Driux The point is there is no way to accurately represent one's internal representations. You may say "you enjoy art." And a connectome simulator may merely parrot the same thing. But subjective ideas like "enjoy" or "art" can never be recreated no matter how hard one may try.They mean different things to different people. This is not a technology issue.You can't falsify the human subjective "mind. " Its a fool's errand. Perhaps I'll make a video. I'll appreciate you critique my comments.
@daveff66 You believe that it is really possible to love oneself "way too much", something I find quite laughable, even if the person in question were not smart and successful. This says quite a bit about your view of life - why have so many other people seen the opposite of what you claim to be self evident? Perhaps they are less insecure than you.
You were the one who brought up a crush, I simply expressed admiration for this man. I'll leave you to ponder that one.
Great talk Sebastian. Very interesting material to consider.
As for the Rolex add: Wristwatches are SO last century. Very few people of my generation (late 20's) wear wristwatches any more.
What use is a single-purpose device like a watch when just about everybody carries a device that can be used for communications, imaging, audio, location and numerous other functions in addition to telling the time.
@kmetze Although I agree with the fact that the wristwatch isn't really the popular kid in school anymore, due to phones and all they have to offer, I think they're still worth wearing.
Timewise, swiftly glancing at your wrist > taking your phone out of your pocket/bag etc. Plus, they can look quite good as an accessory, but that's just me. :]
@daveff66 Repeat after me "I feel threatened by this handsome, smart, successful doctor, getting a great reception from a big room full of smart, successful people for his presentation of a subject that is advancing humankind. I wish I had such good reasons to love myself."
@squokdog Repeat after me "I feel threatened by this handsome, smart, successful doctor, getting a great reception from a big room full of smart, successful people for his presentation of a subject that is advancing humankind. I wish I had such good reasons to love myself."
@matrixistrue you seriously think that people in Africa are so old they might be your grandgrandgrand...parents? Don't make ridiculous statements like that. Our ancestors are dead. All living beings on Earth however have common ancestors and are all winners of the game of survival.
@matrixistrue They are apes. You are also an ape. All humans look like apes because they are apes. They are also monkeys. We are all descended from the protosimian clade.
@dragonstorm83 I didnt say it was a "stupid ad" I simply questioned its content. Did i moan about Ted placing ads in their videos? No i didnt. You need to calm down a little.
@aneelmattu no way, he's been so busy since that happened, he went to Guantanamo bay, smoked dope with the president, and apparently began mapping the connectome of a mouse brain...
@mcgrawtim123 the computer doesn't know how we think, we interpret the info that the computer give us from us putting in certain inputs...like an automatic card shuffler. we put the cards in and it puts it back out differently, without knowing what the cards are
@aneelmattu My point is that if a computer becomes powerful enough to understand all of our synapses and connections in real time, IT will exist just as we do as a conscience entity.
1. He may account his sharp Mongoloid features, decidedly bow-legged gait, or even slightly overbearing presentation style to his genes or connectomes (whatever that is!), but can obliviousness and a complete lack of self awareness also be accredited to gene expression or neuronal activity? (Cont.)
weewilly2007 4 days ago
2.Identity and self-image is arrived at by triangulating how one views oneself, how one THINKS others view you, and how one WISHES to be viewed by others. And then interpolating all 3. The more objectivity an individual can express and the more variables that can be factored into the equation, the more accurate the assessment.
weewilly2007 4 days ago
3. For example, the speakers angular facial features are decidedly masculine (opposed to the more rounded female form) and this can suggest aggression and hostility, the 2 most famous traits of the male. Also, the speakers widely spaced stance has a martial quality or at least can be perceived as arrogant, in taking up more space than is generally needed. (Cont.)
weewilly2007 4 days ago
4. All this may simply be a weak attempt at being persuasive by means of delivering the presentation in a commanding manner that discourages questioning. Which in my mind is completely out of place in a peer reviewed symposium such as TED, and contravenes the very spirit of science and technology.
weewilly2007 4 days ago
This guy's book "Connectome" is really good, elaborates on the ideas presented here. What a great gift to the world to write a book that begins to explain the amazing complexity and wonder of the human brain, and all of our promise and failings as well. I am halfway through the book and I agree with Dan Levitin's review of Seung's book that it is the best science book I have read.
justgivemethetruth 2 weeks ago
Once upon a time The Genome Project was just a dream.
Charting the 28 billion parsec Observable Universe is nearly complete.
Soon the Dark Matter particle will be identified and Dark Energy understood.
Mapping the Connectome –No Problem; Go for it!
Brandon02121997 1 month ago
JUNK.... (and yes, I have a PhD in Neuroscience) !! Wake up and make yourself useful. Science is not about gathering junk data all your life..
mamabari07 1 month ago
@mamabari07 - OK..I'll call your bluff...Prove you have a PhD in Neuroscience. University, Your Name, Year of graduation and Doctoral Thesis...Then if you prove that...a better argument than " Junk" should follow..perhaps a counter argument worthy of a PhD
.. Doctor, I leave the replay to you....
dtekben1 1 week ago
@dtekben1 No, I am not going to write my resume here.. There is a reason why this is not taken seriously - scientists have very painstakingly studied nervous system structure and connections over centuries (which is great), the problem of this approach is connections are NOT static, they are dynamic, changing in every 'ms' (therefore can not be mapped), it is like sequencing genome (you can sequence DNA which is static, but you can not study/compare proteome between cells which is more dynamic..
mamabari07 1 week ago
@dtekben1 I am not sure if you will understand this if you don't study this topic - I have seen these same slides for 1.5 years now :) nothing new has happened and meanwhile Seb has lost his HHMI funding.. :) :) this is why our nervous system is so unique because it can not be generalised and mapped.. (even if you know the maps and connections of cortex, you won't be able to predict its computational outcome which is an emergent property..) - this is why I said, get back to bench work..
mamabari07 1 week ago
hope its not gonna used to make our world saver, better , deleting individualy this can be a big weapon if we look at the negavive aspects
TheZorion 1 month ago
Learning and thinking better be changing your connectome, or else what is it doing?
sulljoh1 2 months ago
this has always been a dream for decades, to solve it, and has even been a subject/topic of several movies including, the one i distinctly remember, deep blue sea :)
abcd12345 2 months ago
Sebastian Seung is hot as hell - too bad he's straight
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@sethwright oh my goodness ;)
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The human brain is a most unusual instrument of elegant and as yet unknown capacity....women brain are different from man brain...this is true but why?
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17:02 *cough* Kurzweil! *cough cough*
hyperbolaisagraph 7 months ago
Everyone should be looking into preserving their brains. It is the only hope you have for extended life.
OgreMECH 8 months ago
what a histrionic delivery...
mahlerdude1 9 months ago 2
@mahlerdude1 - "what a histrionic deliver". Most Ted talks that I've seen are. This, in my opinion, is one of the better ones, not strictly content wise, but also by delivery. Sometimes it takes this kind of pre-fab emotional delivery to sell an idea. I think he did a great job... on this one. I've seen one of his earlier talks and it was HORRIBLE. He is much improved.
BigMTBrain 7 months ago
He kind of said t himself. There is not much new in this. The basic theory is 100 years old and since then they have mapped the neural connection of a worm and found the brain to be very complex. Good to advertise important research and labour heavy projects but I feel a little cheated somehow.
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8:52 Big Brother is watching.
nikanj 10 months ago
sebastian: super great talk! we are working hard to support obtaining connectomes from experiments. in particular, the Open Connectome Project is now hosting a 12TB connectome from Bock et al (2011), with the ability to view/zoom/annotate/download. soon, an API will be released to facilitate uploading annotations, to start the process of alg-sourcing the image processing of these data. very exciting times!!!
joshuavogelstein 10 months ago
@joshuavogelstein what does "alg-sourcing" mean? thanks.
kytosht 2 months ago
If they could scan the mind, then they could download it. You could live forever in a computer program or travel across the universe and have your brain placed in a cyborg.
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god's creations are beautiful
cheboorushka 1 year ago
@cheboorushka shame on you for saying that on TED
ciucinciu 1 year ago
Did he make Assassin's Creed ?!
yoon19 1 year ago
15:57 aliens use doubleglasses to sneekin into ted
deefman 1 year ago
it literally is not possible for the human brain to understand itself
icnithian 1 year ago
@icnithian which is why the human brain invented the computer.
msteeves01 1 year ago
@icnithian
Brain is just a tool for "us" to be in this body and control it, a processor. Do not underestimate the power of consciousness, it is limitless...
gens12334 1 year ago
@icnithian - The human brain is a device; an extremely complex one, but a device nonetheless. We are experts at breaking down man-made devices as well as nature-made device. Consider the quest for understanding how traits are passed on from generation to generation: DNA. We will solve the riddle of the brain in time also. You should have no doubt about that.
BigMTBrain 7 months ago
@BigMTBrain well put. "We" are the pure Witness of that device.
nyclear 6 months ago
@Zoiros85 Nah, neural networks are just a type of structure. It doesn't refer to any specific structure.
That's the difference between a connectome and the network that comprises it. The connectome is the specific configuration of the network and not the concept of a network. I guess you'd have to understand that not everyone's neural network is identical to understand the significance of a connectome.
sexyloser 1 year ago
cryonics is messing with the natural order of things below i talked about the insect world such as ants what ants do is break down decayed matter poop it out so it can create something new for future use devinely connected for purpose, with the use of cryonics you are taking out a piece of that order. There is a bible scripture that says man doesnt have wisdom to guide his own steps.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01...and that's why "god" gave us a woman aside, specif. one at the time, if more, there would be just chaos and chaos is not good for people without understanding, right :)))
joozoooo 1 year ago
P.S. nothing new under the sun meaning cryonics is the same ideology of preserving the human body for reentering it for life after death the ancient egyptians over 6000 years ago did this even taking organs out of the body such as the brain & heart to reasemble this body for future use when the spirit or life force of this being could re-enter problem was they didnt have the power to do that reanimate the physical body with the spirit. I think cryonics is playing with fire you might have zombies
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
because its signals were messing with these organic insects natural signal. how was it shorting out the signal by basically electricuting it self ,to short out the electrical connection that powers that satelite signal. Has science gone to far are we mesing with devine signals out side of our cosmoses?
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
here is an observation about organic insects and their connection or communication with a higher source like that robot ant and its source of communication with its designer, here goes i had a satalite for television communication or cable communication any ways thes little ants built in the wall next to this satalite and purposely tried to short out the electrical connection with that satalite on the side of my house
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
if he claims thes robotic insects build off of stigmergy typo below sorry its a false thesis because any robot has someone behind that creation telling it what to build . The same with an ant or any other building species of insect. like a organic creature like an ant this robotic ant is connected to anther source telling it what to build.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
im trying to talk with sebastian h. seung about his thesis on satalite communication on insects such as ants and its effects he had a theory or thesis about a robotic insect building without an inteligent design calling it stigmergy and the concept of stigmercy is that one creature (insect intelligent life ) can build something simular without any communication with another, but this is the thing-
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
HOMER SIMPSON: What is mind? - No matter. What is matter? - Never mind.
Rusvi1 1 year ago 3
Best TED talk by far!
AaaaghJOE 1 year ago
This is fantastic.
Ovidius89 1 year ago
The talk was great, but the watch, ohh what a watch it will save the earth someday.
IvarNordman 1 year ago
@arcanestoner doh =( kill my joke.... murderer
NUGNESS123 1 year ago
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NUGNESS123 1 year ago
really glad to see a scientific model that reflects ideas that artists and philosophers have been conversing about.
nguyen2 1 year ago
Kurzweil thinks that we will map our brains in 2030, this guy talks about decades, generations.... hmmm, i think kurzweil may be right, because, he looks at this problem in wider perspective ( computers, nanotechnology, scaning resolutions, technology advancements , exponential growth of this technologies ) If we look at the past, 80's 90's ( genome project predictions etc) i think that i will encode my memories maybe in 2030 :)
mrdexter86 1 year ago
@mrdexter86 No, Kurzweil is wrong. If you read his older books, he misses almost all of his predictions.
Ahtatatawhataa 1 year ago
Johnny Tran!!! from fast n furious 1!!!!!
NUGNESS123 1 year ago 4
@NUGNESS123 THANK YOU!! I was like, WHO does this guy look like!?!!
bennyv04988 1 year ago
@NUGNESS123 I second !!
65Sherbear 1 year ago
I love whimsical metaphores that make sense.
youtubing27 1 year ago 14
1:06 Sylvester Stallone's gay twin.
andrewc513 1 year ago 5
So this guy is saying that I can "hack" my brain?
Muhahahahahahah!!!
Mrmoc7 1 year ago
This was excellent. He's very humble and puts science into easier terms. Reminds me of Michio Kaku.
carousel1130 1 year ago 7
awesome speaker. I am going to freeze my brain when i die
wiseye61 1 year ago
freaking genetically engineered poetcome why are u so awesome?
thockoro 1 year ago
I am my rolex
marjolainevain 1 year ago
Rarely you'll see someone who knows what they are talking about and not speaking out of their arse.
UKNMajor 1 year ago 4
Rolex- Connectime
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rockisbetter 1 year ago
He sounds like Morpheus from the Matrix! lol. Love It!
McBagginz 1 year ago 35
@McBagginz I thought he sounded more like Tom cruise from Vanilla sky
ParkMale69 1 year ago
Genius speaker, and one of the best TED videos.
8legsFreak 1 year ago 7
Brilliant!
lowey911 1 year ago
Man, this video should have 15 million views, not thousand.
jogjogjig 1 year ago
There is no proof of free will as there is no proof of god. We experience our minds deliberating and choosing but really the choice is dependant on a lot of things except the romantic idea of an physically independent so-called free will.
hede88 1 year ago 3
Can I contribute to the 'path finding' via BOINC?
piotrezzz 1 year ago
I love TED for this
Freigeist20789 1 year ago 2
Dr Seung is one of the most fluent and articulate, imaginative and inspiring science speakers I've seen since Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman. Fascinating ideas too!
astrophonix 1 year ago 2
@astrophonix He's very intelligent, and yes I know he's of Korean descent not Japanese, but his manner of speaking made me go "William Shatner and George Takei had a son!"
notme222 1 year ago
Hey the Neuron looks like a Tree of Knowledge, looks like it's ALL in the Bible isn't it?
SuperiorApostate 1 year ago
@SuperiorApostate
LOL, I know what you're doing. You should stop it.
Mrmoc7 1 year ago
So what separates me from thee?
Honker66 1 year ago
Just when I had just about lost faith in TED, the conference releases a talk like this and pulls me back! More minddazzling science and ballsy ideas TED!
BodaciousBurnley 1 year ago
Perhaps the best discription of the mind yet and without some metaphysical mumbo jumbo or vital force holding things together.
I always knew those in Cryonics were on to something. With Moore's law the conclusion of his test will play out sooner then most people expect. See Ray kurzweil and Project blue brain.
DK0526 1 year ago
There is no way this person will be able to ascomplish what he wants. The complexity of the computation is more than that of the complexity of factorizing some Unbeliviably large numbers into its primes--which takes more than the lifetime of the known universe (according to lots of cosmological models)! It's a brilliant idea, but it will not be possible until an incredible revolution in computers comes (and it may not). Quantum computers have had virtualy no sucess, and they're the main posibli
11Agamemnon235 1 year ago
@11Agamemnon235 The revolution will be here soon....IE Moore's Law.
DK0526 1 year ago
The carved riverbed is the result of the stream of consciousness. The stream does not come out of the bed. In this case, the river bed and all its directions and connections are
the result of motion in consciousness. I am not my connectome. I AM.
lordofthemystic 1 year ago
@lordofthemystic Unfortunately you cannot prove this because even in the case of genetically identical twins, subtle differences in life experiences immediately shape (differently) the "bed." This a very strong argument for nurture's impact on genetics. So if you take the chicken/egg question, well i think genetics is the obvious egg and everything subsequent is experience. The bed in a sense has a very short half life before experience starts imparting the most dramatic changes.
Hypnotron2006 1 year ago
@Hypnotron2006 What you're really saying is subtle differences in consciousness shape
the beds of twins to be different. Trying to define your being through physics is a waste of time. "The All is Mind; The Universe is Mental." Keep looking closer and closer, until it
all disappears.
lordofthemystic 1 year ago
Nope, not falsifiable. No matter how hard you try, nor how motivated. A fools errand. You are not just your "connectome". Thats one small cog in a larger wheel.
qigong1001 1 year ago
This is gold!! Thank you Dr Seung!
TheJaredtube 1 year ago
may be the next challenge is to avoid death, become immortal. We die because we have accepted dying as an inevitability.
fennecful 1 year ago 2
Too long presentation as TED
jyosih1 1 year ago
I love TED...I feel like I am LITEARLLY on the cutting edge of tech/ knowledge when I watch these, as they are so informative as well as inspirational
TwoFourKingAce 1 year ago 3
Amazingly clear presentation of a seriously difficult and challenging science!
vyotiainen 1 year ago
and now i want a rolex.
SuperHighFiveGuy 1 year ago 7
What a sexy smart guy and good speaker. Very informative and entertaining talk.
MegF142857 1 year ago
CONNCETOMES! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HigherPlanes 1 year ago
Awesome commercial at the end :)
Zakbain 1 year ago
One more step towards Mind Uploading! =D
NikoKun 1 year ago
Great TED speech, like in the old days of TED.
ridingboy 1 year ago
Yeah yeah, fancy talk but it's still not helping me find my car keys.... grr.
TheSpankymonkey 1 year ago
this guy should host a science show on TV like carl sagen(R.I.P).
drorjs 1 year ago
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ape like ancestors , you mean africans , they look like apes
matrixistrue 1 year ago
@matrixistrue - No more than you do. If you was trying to make a snide comment about Africans then perhaps this might not be the best place for those comments. Children don't tend to watch TED talks.
TheSpankymonkey 1 year ago
@TheSpankymonkey
Though it is, of course, good to remember that some, such as myself, do.
TRRProductions09 1 year ago
The success of this kind of research is the sharpest double edged sword I can think of. If someone does for DNA what George Boole did for Digital Data, there will be a revolution of incalculable magnitude at hand. The rise of the superhuman will initiate, stemming from us to the first superhuman and a few steps up, an omniscient being will eventually emerge. True humans will be as significant as is an ape today. Super-humans would have more than 5 senses and all of them would be super sharp.
jnwpse 1 year ago
TIHS PNRSTEATOIEN IS AESWMOE
Ahasuer 1 year ago
@Ahasuer
Ncie dmenrtsatoin of a naet pincerilpe.
TRRProductions09 1 year ago
Astoundingly brilliant!! What a communicator.
humanist7117 1 year ago
1:05 wobbly head
withoutnameorplace 1 year ago
Absolutely the most interesting and Connectome changing lecture i heard. Zen people can only feel this, but Sebastain Seung really makes a beautiful connection between Zen and Pure Cultivating Science!!!
bulmudo 1 year ago
I was considering skipping this one because the title sounded boring, but I'm glad I watched it, because it was cool.
amoneymoney 1 year ago 2
This guy is awesome.
Riaz125 1 year ago 6
i bet $100 he likes robots!
dAda313 1 year ago 2
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As many have said before, the amount of idiotic comments in contrast to the often-times brilliance delivered through the TED-talks is the perfect cure against optimism about a greater tomorrow.
Why is it that so many people are stuck in the notion that humankind has met it's expiration-date on Science, innovation, progress and development?
Dumass88 1 year ago
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Dumass88 1 year ago
Excellent talk...Great speaker, I'm going to learn more about the connectome because it really connects with home.
curiositydefined 1 year ago
i am a combination of my value system and my accumilated Character (a selected collection of habbits of character traits) where each component of my value system and each individual character trait vibrates at its unique frequency... the brain that is in this body has its own charactristics that doesnt relate to who i really am ... so only a portion of my totality is expressed in this tiny physical brain and in this human physical body
kyryll 1 year ago
Non falsifiable hypothesis. Sounds interesting but its a dead end. "You as a connectome" can never be tested. Perhaps to predict certain behavior, but only at a rough level.
qigong1001 1 year ago
@qigong1001 Well it is falsifiable, given technology that can accurately simulate conectomes. If any particular characteristic that is deemed intrinsic to the overall personality of a person is lost once translating a mind to a connectome, then the theory falsified.
Driux 1 year ago
@Driux The point is there is no way to accurately represent one's internal representations. You may say "you enjoy art." And a connectome simulator may merely parrot the same thing. But subjective ideas like "enjoy" or "art" can never be recreated no matter how hard one may try.They mean different things to different people. This is not a technology issue.You can't falsify the human subjective "mind. " Its a fool's errand. Perhaps I'll make a video. I'll appreciate you critique my comments.
qigong1001 1 year ago
This talk is really amazing and even Brilliant!
it makes me interested in connectome's while there is so little to know about it !
shintsu01 1 year ago
excellent talk
Kmezon2 1 year ago
I know it's sick but these TED viseos have been so heartwarming for me over the years they're almost romantic....
But it's so DEFLATING getting back to reality after all the "we should/could do this".
Let's just elect Ray Kurzweil a leader for life and let's get pushing towards singularity!
alenmecan 1 year ago 3
Excellent talk, one of my favorites from TED so far.
jathgnos 1 year ago
@daveff66 You believe that it is really possible to love oneself "way too much", something I find quite laughable, even if the person in question were not smart and successful. This says quite a bit about your view of life - why have so many other people seen the opposite of what you claim to be self evident? Perhaps they are less insecure than you.
You were the one who brought up a crush, I simply expressed admiration for this man. I'll leave you to ponder that one.
wearealltubes 1 year ago
Maybe it's the passion and love that he has for what he does that's misconceived for cockiness by some. ;) Very interesting talk!
Verokomo 1 year ago
Very interesting talk, very interesting scientist.
greob 1 year ago
Great talk Sebastian. Very interesting material to consider.
As for the Rolex add: Wristwatches are SO last century. Very few people of my generation (late 20's) wear wristwatches any more.
What use is a single-purpose device like a watch when just about everybody carries a device that can be used for communications, imaging, audio, location and numerous other functions in addition to telling the time.
kmetze 1 year ago
@kmetze Although I agree with the fact that the wristwatch isn't really the popular kid in school anymore, due to phones and all they have to offer, I think they're still worth wearing.
Timewise, swiftly glancing at your wrist > taking your phone out of your pocket/bag etc. Plus, they can look quite good as an accessory, but that's just me. :]
PunkAssKriss 1 year ago
@daveff66 Repeat after me "I feel threatened by this handsome, smart, successful doctor, getting a great reception from a big room full of smart, successful people for his presentation of a subject that is advancing humankind. I wish I had such good reasons to love myself."
Good, you are on the road to recovery.
wearealltubes 1 year ago 2
Dear Rolex,
I need a watch that simply tells me the time, and not a companion for my submarine voyages.
Xelaju16 1 year ago 45
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@Xelaju16 I can't even remember the last time I owned a watch.
MyceliaProductions42 1 year ago
@Xelaju16 Had to be said!
DawnOfEos 1 year ago
@Xelaju16 thank you for making that commercial hysterical to watch :P
bennyv04988 1 year ago
i want to punch this guy in the face............... amazing stuff but shit soooooo smug!!!
squokdog 1 year ago
@squokdog Repeat after me "I feel threatened by this handsome, smart, successful doctor, getting a great reception from a big room full of smart, successful people for his presentation of a subject that is advancing humankind. I wish I had such good reasons to love myself."
Good, you are on the road to recovery.
wearealltubes 1 year ago
there will also be loops in the pianist network therefore the network will not stretch out like a chain, it will remain a plate of spaghetti.
A bit solemnly and nothing new.
0MoTheG 1 year ago
that rolex ad just cracks me up..
"Water proofness" is that a word ..stupid stupid ad..
Their watches are good ...but their ads are just to ambitious
paulthecoolest 1 year ago
finally something that's both passionate AND intellectual.
and the rolex commercial still makes me lol. it's a WATCH, for goodness sake!!!!!
shethewriter 1 year ago
FINALLY SOMETHING USEFUL!
Storhonta 1 year ago
Truly enlightening.
ChocolateTeddybar 1 year ago
awkward start and stilted delivery and a little low on facts or specifics, but very interesting contents. what a fascinating project.
neurocrater 1 year ago 2
Definately an excellent and interesting lecture. More please.
khatack 1 year ago
Finnaly someone that does'nt only speak from a manuscript in a stiff way. Bravo!
ClaritySWE 1 year ago
I am more than my jeans! erm... genes
sp00x 1 year ago
Fantastic presentation. Thank you for sharing it.
NaturalXY 1 year ago 2
this is how minority report will begin
psalib89 1 year ago
This is a GREAT lecture! Must see!!
darrenfiy 1 year ago 3
at last a good TED lecture
zydomason 1 year ago
This talk should be in the hall of fame.
Crusherix 1 year ago
He's actually a very good lecturer. Thank you Dr.Seung!
borninvietnam 1 year ago
This is a cool guy, would have loved him as my professor in one or two classes.
P1ranh4 1 year ago 2
@dragonstorm83 Yes, you're completely right. Capitalism is everlasting, even as the end of the world is just around the corner.
BoStevoD 1 year ago
ape like ancestors , you mean africans , they look like apes
matrixistrue 1 year ago
@matrixistrue you seriously think that people in Africa are so old they might be your grandgrandgrand...parents? Don't make ridiculous statements like that. Our ancestors are dead. All living beings on Earth however have common ancestors and are all winners of the game of survival.
P1ranh4 1 year ago
@matrixistrue They are apes. You are also an ape. All humans look like apes because they are apes. They are also monkeys. We are all descended from the protosimian clade.
Joerexia 1 year ago
This is one of the best Ted Talks I have seen in a long time- and its nice to see somebody with a great sense of humor.
shortaycrunk 1 year ago
I feel like this is chapter 2 in my psychology class
rast123456789 1 year ago
what an eloquent connectome :)
vijishellboy 1 year ago
@dragonstorm83 I didnt say it was a "stupid ad" I simply questioned its content. Did i moan about Ted placing ads in their videos? No i didnt. You need to calm down a little.
AmusingYeti 1 year ago
he just got back from white castle
aneelmattu 1 year ago 40
@aneelmattu no way, he's been so busy since that happened, he went to Guantanamo bay, smoked dope with the president, and apparently began mapping the connectome of a mouse brain...
B3nn1994 1 year ago
Brilliant talk in every way. Best one TED has had in a while.
Jaikkanen 1 year ago 78
great!
VeryAwesomeVids 1 year ago
Harold and Kumar map the connectome.
Thanks, TED, for being good again.
Yesitis808 1 year ago
@Zoiros85 Well, a connectome isn't the neural network nor the brain, but the connections in our brain.
His theory is that you are not your brain nor your neural network, but the connections within.
sexyloser 1 year ago
Through these studies science may begin to answer one of philosophy's greatest questions. What is conciousness? Was Descartes right?
nikanj 1 year ago
This science is dangerous to us all.
I don't want a computer to know how we think.
mcgrawtim123 1 year ago
@mcgrawtim123 the computer doesn't know how we think, we interpret the info that the computer give us from us putting in certain inputs...like an automatic card shuffler. we put the cards in and it puts it back out differently, without knowing what the cards are
aneelmattu 1 year ago
@aneelmattu My point is that if a computer becomes powerful enough to understand all of our synapses and connections in real time, IT will exist just as we do as a conscience entity.
mcgrawtim123 1 year ago
@mcgrawtim123
Much higher, if it can establish the connectome, it can change it.
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
@MilitantPeaceist Change it to what? Thanks for caring.
mcgrawtim123 1 year ago