Interview with Libertarian, James Babb on Comcast.

[robpatozz]

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[2piddyy]

hay hay hay. ;D J

[LoonyRonPaul]

Just because Penn Jillette is a libertarian doesn't mean you have to look like him. Instead of conforming to his image, why don't you express your own individuality?

[KatchooFrancine]

Uh...Exactly HOW would he "make polluters pay"? Whom are they going to pay? How much? For what infractions? What is the mechanism for dealing with this? So only people who own property have a right to clean air & water, right? I mean, PRIVATE property rights is all I hear you Libs talk about.

[jimbabb]

Current policy in Pennsylvania often forces ALL taxpayers to pay for environmental clean up (ie Growing Greener and similar programs). Well connected polluters get permission from the state to violate the private property of others. Various pay-to-pollute programs shield the polluters from liability. Polluters pay the government to dump XYZ in the river. Then the politicians protect the culprits and force the taxpayers to clean up the mess. (continued)

[jimbabb]

They even directly subsidize polluters like power stations and farms.

I believe that the burden of pollution clean up should fall on those that do the damage. If polluters were held financially responsible, they would develop clean processes out of self interest. Of course, the politicians would lose the ability to grant favors to their special interest masters, so it's a difficult position to enact into law. (continued)

[jimbabb]

Yes, Libertarians refer to private property quite often. The most important private property is the self. Our philosophy begins with the recognition of self-ownership. This is the fundamental basis for a free society.

When the state "owns" property, it is usually the worst polluted and depleted. (Google "tragedy of the commons") Private property is defended and preserved by the self interest of the owner.

I hope that answers your question.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

Yes, it is a tragedy that national forests are available for all citizens to enjoy.

The Libertarian solution? Privatize all forests so that logging companies - I mean, private entities - can use them for whatever purpose they see fit.

[jimbabb]

All the clear cutting I've seen is on government owned land, where cutters just lease another mountain after destroying the first. There's no incentive to conserve or replant, because it's not their property (tragedy of the commons). Private land owners have an incentive to protect the value of their property.

[jimbabb]

You'd have to be looney to trust the worlds largest polluter with environmental protection. Think about it. Politicians don't give a crap about the environment. All they do is collect checks from influential corporations. The sooner we can get property away from them, the sooner it can be protected.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

OK, so you're for the environment, good.

But selling off public property to the highest bidder (i.e. corporations) would give corporate entities the right to pollute the hell out of it.

For example, what would a Libertarian do to stop corporations from polluting their own land? Nothing, because it's their land, so they have the right to pollute it.

That's the problem with absolute property rights - it gives corporations the absolute right to pollute their own property.

[jimbabb]

How gracious of you to recognize that my goal isn't to destroy the earth.

Polluters aren't the only ones that can buy land. Consider the Audubon Society. They protect millions of acres and even make money from drilling in their wildlife sanctuaries. Do you think their members would allow this if it threatened the wildlife? Do politicians take as much care when they hand out drilling rights on government land?

[1lady4freedom]

Do no Harm!!!!! Live your life and freedom as long as it does not harm others!!!!! So You have not really researched your comments. As for your ten questions. Do no harm is your answer to all. so for the puppy (you sick SOB) the harm is to the puppy.

[GNAA9000]

I can pollute my own property. I own it.

[LoonyRonPaul]

James Babb still hasn't found the political courage to answer my ten questions.

Maybe he's not so honest after all.

[JosephtheLibertarian]

why do you attack libertarians and not corporatists? You're very ignorant.

[LoonyRonPaul]

JosephtheLibertarian

"why do you attack libertarians and not corporatists?"

Because Libertarians want to get rid of all corporate regulations, giving them the freedom to, for example, dump toxic waste onto corporate-owned land.

[jimbabb]

Libertarians are the best defenders of private property. It's the collectivists that give corporations permission to pollute the environment.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

Yes, Libertarians are the best defenders of the individual property owner's right to shoot anyone who sets foot on their front yard. How very noble!

[LoonyRonPaul]

Of course, it's so easy to give straight answers to softball questions.

But can James Babb answer the ten questions that I have for him on my channel?

Let's see how honest he really is!

[jimbabb]

Looney, since you seem obsessed with what's in your neighbor's back yard, let me answer your question. It's not up to me to tell another person how they can defend themselves. Once we let government decide what weapons we can own, we elevate our servants to the role of slave master. No thanks.

I hope that clears things up for you.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"I hope that clears things up for you."

It doesn't - it was an evasive non-answer, so I will ask again.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give me a straight answer this time:

Do you support every American's right to install a rocket launcher in his backyard and put land mines in his front yard?

Yes or no?

[jimbabb]

I acknowledge the right of self-defense under ALL circumstances. So, yes as long as no innocents are endangered. Clear enough Looney?

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"I acknowledge the right of self-defense under ALL circumstances. So, yes as long as no innocents are endangered. Clear enough Looney?"

Crystal. You're for rocket launchers and land mines.

I think the Branch Davidians just found their new candidate!

[LoonyRonPaul]

And as for you James Babb:

Here is a question that the interviewer should have asked you.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give a straight answer:

Do you support every American citizen's right to have rocket launchers and land mines on their private property?

[chuck1967]

Thomas Jefferson is the man that made it possible for all Americans to have an education supported by the people. According to Libertarians we should privatise education which Thomas Jefferson would be wholeheartedly against since it would lead to only the rich being able to get a good education.

[jimbabb]

Thanks for your interest Loony. Perhaps you should run for office with the Authoritarian Party. It sounds like you have some great ideas to force on everybody else.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"Thanks for your interest Loony. Perhaps you should run for office with the Authoritarian Party. It sounds like you have some great ideas to force on everybody else."

Thanks! Here's another great idea. Let's make it illegal to put land mines and rocket launchers on one's property.

Oh wait, it already is. I guess that's an idea that you Libertarians oppose.

[Freethought42]

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."-Thomas Jefferson

Hmmm, I guess our founding fathers were loony conspiracy nuts who thought the English just wanted to exploit the colonists for their own gain... right...

[LoonyRonPaul]

Of course, James Babb won't tell you his Libertarian plans to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, anti-discrimination laws, health and safety laws...

Any idea why Libertarians get less than 1% of the vote?

[jimbabb]

Sure, I'll tell you. If I could, I would eliminate Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and all other wholesale theft. I would return that stolen loot to the those that earned it, so they could invest in their own needs and choose their own deserving charities.

[jimbabb]

would also like to restore the right of association (or non-association). As for health and safety regulations, I see nothing wrong with prosecuting those that harm others or violate property rights. Insurance companies are obviously more qualified than politicians to develop policies that minimize risk.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"would also like to restore the right of association (or non-association)."

Code for: the right to refuse service or employment to anyone based on race.

Just like in the good old days before the Civil Rights movement.

[Freethought42]

A business owner should be able to refuse employment, or service to ANYONE. Forcing him to hire a certain number of women, or blacks, or Australian Aboriginees is completely rediculous.

A business is personal property, and the property owner is the ONLY one who should be able to choose what is done with HIS PROPERTY.

Why do Democrats and Republicans alike have such trouble understanding what private ownership means?

[LoonyRonPaul]

Freethought42

"A business owner should be able to refuse employment, or service to ANYONE. Forcing him to hire a certain number of women, or blacks, or Australian Aboriginees is completely rediculous."

I don't agree with Affirmative Action. But I do agree with anti-discrimination laws.

And no, I don't agree that a business owner has the right to put up a sign saying "No Blacks Allowed."

[HackNike]

Exactly! When people where granted civil acceptance based on merit and ability as opposed to race, gender, and association.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"As for health and safety regulations, I see nothing wrong with prosecuting those that harm others or violate property rights."

I see nothing wrong with the government FORCING businesses to follow health and safety regulations which prevent workers from getting injured in the first place.

[Freethought42]

It's up to the worker to look out for himself.

Not the government to force me to comply with a set of rediculous rules that nobody follows even with the law in place.

As a construction worker, I will tell you that most of the laws your thinking of are completely rediculous, and hurt workers wages which are already in the dump.

[LoonyRonPaul]

Freethought42

"As a construction worker, I will tell you that most of the laws your thinking of are completely rediculous, and hurt workers wages which are already in the dump."

Your spelling is ridiculous.

And if you're a construction worker, why do you hate all those health and safety laws which prevent you from getting injured?

[Lord666Belial]

Laws do not prevent someone from getting injured. Laws protect companies from paying injured people or they protect the injured persons right to get money after an injury. There is no law on the book that can protect a construction worker from falling off a roof or a something from falling on there head.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

"Sure, I'll tell you. If I could, I would eliminate Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and all other wholesale theft. I would return that stolen loot to the those that earned it, so they could invest in their own needs and choose their own deserving charities."

And if they choose to keep that money to themselves, I guess poor people then have the freedom to die from lack of health care.

Compassionate Libertarianism!

[HackNike]

Because the plebs are too accustomed to sucking on the teats of government and society?

[LoonyRonPaul]

If property rights are always good, and government restrictions are always bad, then I guess you have no problem with your neighbor installing a rocket launcher in his backyard, putting land mines in his front yard, and sitting on his front lawn with an assault rifle.

You Libertarians are worse than the NRA.

[Freethought42]

He has not infringed on my rights, honestly I don't have a problem with it. I honestly feel just fine knowing my neighbor owns assault rifles.

He is really a very good man.

[LoonyRonPaul]

Freethought42

"He has not infringed on my rights, honestly I don't have a problem with it. I honestly feel just fine knowing my neighbor owns assault rifles."

You conveniently forgot the other parts, so I will ask you directly:

Do you support every American's right to installing a rocket launcher in his backyard and putting land mines in his front yard?

[leopardpm]

Looney,

You are basically saying that you don't trust your fellow Americans to be responsible in their ownership of property (ie: rocket launchers), and I understand being concerned. The problem is that your 'solution' is for the 'government' to be the only folks allowed to have such items, as if being part of 'the government' makes someone responsible!

[leopardpm]

Those folks in government are just people as well, in fact, it is the very nature of government (having power over others) which attracts the exact same folks that you are concerned about! Stop worshipping government, it is not a god, it is people who desire power over the lives of others.

[LoonyRonPaul]

leopardpm

"The problem is that your 'solution' is for the 'government' to be the only folks allowed to have such items, as if being part of 'the government' makes someone responsible!"

You danced around my question, so I will ask you directly.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give me a straight answer:

Do you support every American's right to install a rocket launcher in his backyard and put land mines in his front yard?

[leopardpm]

You are proposing a 'red herring' type of logical fallacy: No one is proposing what you imply, Ron Paul does not propose it, and it has absolutely no relevance to the discussion. Why would you propose such an outlandish idea, do you want to own rocket launchers/land mines, or, are you just unable to discuss his REAL stances?

[LoonyRonPaul]

leopardpm

"You are proposing a 'red herring' type of logical fallacy: No one is proposing what you imply"

Yet more dancing around my question, so I will ask again.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give me a straight answer:

Do you support every American's right to install a rocket launcher in his backyard and put land mines in his front yard?

[leopardpm]

and again, why are you talking about rocket launchers? I already told you, Ron Paul does not advocate for people to own rocket launchers or land mines, so what is with this question? How about we stay in the realm of reality and discuss real issues, not talk about theories and abstract notions in a world which is not the one we live in.... sheesh, and I thought that libertarians were supposed to be looney....

[LoonyRonPaul]

leopardpm

"and again, why are you talking about rocket launchers?"

And again, more dancing around the question.

I am asking YOU this question. If you are a Libertarian, then quit dancing and start answering.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give a straight answer:

Do you support every American citizen's right to have rocket launchers and land mines on their private property?

Yes or No?

[leopardpm]

It is not a 'yes' or 'no' question - obviously we all seem to trust american citizens who are in the military to use and control these weapons, so it all depends upon the circumstance.

[LoonyRonPaul]

leopardpm

"It is not a 'yes' or 'no' question"

Sure it is, you just don't have the guts to answer it.

It's a simple question, let's see if you can give a straight answer:

Do you support every American citizen's right to have rocket launchers and land mines on their private property?

Yes or No?

[voodooshizzle]

Dude...pony tails for politicians went out in like the 1800's. And even those were attached to a wig. A pony tail says, "Please vote for ANYONE but me."

[jimbabb]

Raise $1000 for my campaign, and I'll get mohawk in your honor. Foshizzle!

[KungFuCrazyMan]

Yeah, I agree. I find it hard to take anyone seriously who has a fucking ponytail. What a fucking idiot.

I'm not saying he's wrong about what he's saying. I actually agree with him. But he can't understand something as simple "your apperance is very important" particularly when you're a political figure.

I'd vote for this guy but if I ever meet him I'm gonna call him a dumb fuck for the pony tail.

[GotSoulDoubt]

Very nice responses. I like your priorities on what you'd tackle first.

Ron Paul for President :)

[Deak19]

Cool. I am thinking about running for State Assembly, in California. I was preparing speeches very similar to his.

[jimbabb]

Go for it!

[OctoPuno]

Jim Excellent suggestions -- A lot of religion in Penn State you'll need to learn to tie in the teachings of Christ - Gandhi (Self-Rule, entrepreneurial) - and Martin Luther King Jr -- (Malcolm X outside of his social belief was essentially a Libertarian). Most people fall into one of the above philosophies. Actually the true teachings of Mohamed are based on free-market models (as Mohamed was fighting the controlling rule of Jewish bankers back then).

[LoonyRonPaul]

Libertarians encourage greed, cruelty, and apathy towards others' safety and well-being.

It is both naive and selfish.

People deserve basic human rights such as education, health care, police, firefighters.

Don't agree? Then move to Somalia.

[BillyvonDumpling]

You're right! Mitt Romney for president, because we need a happy guy to enforce our obligation to shut the fuck up and kill people! -at our expence.

[voodooshizzle]

Did you see the 20/20 report last week where Jon Stossel interviewed Michael Moore. Very interesting.  Try to check it out. Very good story on the biggest problem healthcare faces in our country.

[Bo0ja]

lol health care isn't a right numbnuts, it's a privilege, and libertarian's aren't anarchists. but you wouldn't know that because you're a fucking idiot.

[LoonyRonPaul]

Bo0ja

"lol health care isn't a right numbnuts, it's a privilege"

It's that kind of thinking that is the root cause of the problem. Every other country sees health care as a basic human right.

That could be a clue as to why so many Americans miss out on basic health care.

[benjie2429]

And why many Canadians come to America because its illegal to have for profit health services because their government would like to keep the monopoly over health care...Why my cousins moved from Montreal to Atlanta because they didn't want to wait 6 months for surgery or a basic MRI

[LoonyRonPaul]

benjie2429

"And why many Canadians come to America because its illegal to have for profit health services because their government would like to keep the monopoly over health care."

And many Americans come to Canada to buy prescription medication because they can't afford it here.

Canada's system is not the answer (I'm against socialized medicine), but to think that government should stay out completely akin to burying your head in the sand.

[benjie2429]

I'm just pointed out the flaws in all systems because there are major flaws in all...So far the best ideas I've heard are HSA's Health Savings Accounts which basically allows the person to be covered for major medical like cancer and surgery and if you break your leg and is actually affordable, but it doesn't cover simple things like check ups and allows the patience to shop arround for the best deals.

[benjie2429]

Thats the whole idea bout insurance its a risk pool the more incentives you add to it the higher the premiums. Insurance before government intervention in the 50s resemble HSA's a free market approach which had way cheaper prices.

[benjie2429]

In the 1960s, we had by far the best health-care system in the world. Health insurance was available to anyone, young or old, even those with pre-existing medical problems. Doctors made house calls, and a hospital stay for an appendectomy or other routine operation cost the equivalent of only a week or two of one's income. Every city had free clinics and charity hospitals that took care of those who were short of money. This isn't just nostalgia...it's true!

[benjie2429]

The federal government (led by King Johnson) jumped in with Medicare, Medicaid, the HMO Act, and tens of thousands of regulations. Thirty years later, government now spends half of all the health-care dollars in America, and we can see how well the politicians have helped us: Doctors no longer make house calls and their waiting rooms look like Grand Central Station.

[benjie2429]

Health insurance has been priced out of the market for those in their 20s or 30s, and people with special medical problems must rely on the government for insurance. Senior citizens now pay from their own pockets at least twice as much for health care as they did before Medicare began -- even after allowing for Medicare's contribution and after adjusting for inflation. And if they need a medical procedure that isn't approved by Medicare, they're plain out of luck.

[LoonyRonPaul]

benjie2429

"And if they need a medical procedure that isn't approved by Medicare, they're plain out of luck."

And if they needed a medical procedure with Medicare eliminated, they'd always be plain out of luck.

[benjie2429]

So your solution ultimately is medicare for all..WALTER Reid health care mandates for all citizens lets make USA the new Canada

[benjie2429]

I wonder if the Bush administration hadn't created the prescription drugs system, instead of a democrat republican like Bush but a regular democrat like Clinton would he be denouncing or promoting it?

[JosephtheLibertarian]

Why don't you attack the Republican corporatists then? asshole.

You attack the one man that wants to leave health care to the doctors, not the corporations.

[benjie2429]

he doesn't realize the reason why Hillary Clinton and BARAK obama are getting the most of of the insurance company lobbyist...I don't see how you can't put too and too together..why do you think they guys who gave us prescription drugs for seniors were under Bush's administration...I doubt you will ever see a lobbyist for HSA's or for sound money so we wouldn't have inflation and medical expenses trippling the speed of inflation..I guess mr loony ron paul dont take these things into account

[LoonyRonPaul]

benjie2429

"I don't see how you can't put too and too together."

It's TWO, not TOO.

Just doing my part to fight the Ron Paul R3tardation!

[benjie2429]

LOl..wow thats all you got..Spotting a typo or two that i tend to write. Well sorry if tend to go into a rant maybe i should do more spell checks of what I say. I doubt i will but i'll try to look out for those...lol Man loonyROnPaul if thats all you got and you can't address that actual statement i make than i guess your just running out of ammo man..Are things getting that desperate? I'm worried about ya man...

[LoonyRonPaul]

benjie2429

"Well sorry if tend to go into a rant"

Yeah, I've noticed that.

It's James Babb's video - let's get to the issue of why he's so reluctant to answer any of the ten simple questions I have for him in the video response.

Maybe he doesn't want voters to know what he really believes.

[jimbabb]

Can you re-post your questions looney? I forget what they are. Was it something about eating puppies in your front yard? I'll be sure to give your inquiries all the attention they deserve.

Thanks again for your interest.

[LoonyRonPaul]

jimbabb

The questions are in the comments of the video I posted in response.

Be careful now - with the Ron Paul newsletter debacle still in progress, this isn't exactly the best time to be a Libertarian.

[BlakeAflatoxin]

Wow, some great ideas.

I wish you luck!