atheists make me sick. do you not have anything better to do than try to lead people astray? fool. children, look at his words. listen to his voice. the end of every spoken sentence, is not a question, but a premeditated statement. the end of every typed phrase, is not a deduction, but a prompt. most of all, his concepts-are transparent. he says not "to inflict pain for pain's sake is evil", rather, he says, "hell is a lie because of this, and that, and those". LISTEN to him. a liar. and a fool.
You stated many good reasons for the need to become a christian.
But of course it doesn't justify genocide, and you cannot force anyone to believe - we have free will. God wants believers, not slaves.
But why not flip it - why believe in heaven? Given a choice people LOVE to believe in a heaven. And that is for the very reason you stated about hell - people can justify any behavior. Particularly their own.
Hell is real my friend - but I cannot argue you away from it.
This video is based on a FALSE PREMISE. The One Creator made hell for his spiritual beings called DEMONS- - hell is a PRISON for spiritual lawbreakers- - fallen angels--demons. Unfortunately, hell is for HUMANS who live in rebellion, reject and hate the Creator. If you break the law you pay the price, do you not understand this logic? In this world, justice is imperfect and still, executed. In the REAL world, justice is perfectly executed- - no cutting corners.
All the sweet talking people will not stop people from going to hell. Believing that it doesn't exist won't change anything. If u end up there, and hope u don't, take this poem with u and read it down there. See if it makes a different at all with the sweet talking. We are born in sin and no sinner that's not covered with Jesus blood can go to heaven. All the time u waste trying to figure out hell, you could be getting saved and be ready for heaven. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation
Why worry about going to Hell, when all u have to do is accept the one who died on the cross for u. What if hell is really true like the Bible says? Will u have control over going there when u leave here? if only people would take the time to get filled with the Holy Ghost like they did on the day of Pentecost, u will see better that the bible is for real. Hell is for real. Why take the chance when u don't have to? Do u believe that Jesus died for u? Do u love Him? Do u really care about Him?
I agree with you rossdaboss1959. The problem these people have is that they don't believe. They would have to repent and aknowledge that they are sinners, which of course is the spirit of pride. They believe that hell is just a scare tactic, to get them into religion and take away their sinful lifestyle. They do not understand that we are only trying show them the true way to everlasting life that is only through Christ Jesus. Just pray rossdaboss, we have to love them enough to tell them.
Brian Hewitt, who was born n 1964. You lived in a sinful life style until you were 10 years old. Then a friend took you to church and you heard about the rapture and tribulation and hell fire and eternity which was a common topic back in the 70's. It scared the everliving shit out of you and you've been a believer ever since. Whether i'm right or wrong on this word of knowledge, the biggest question is, have you ever stopped to question your beliefs along the way since you got saved?
Yes, I do believe in this one's logic, but is hell what the bible truly makes it out to be? It could be a number of things, and as it would seem, the true hell would only be for truly truly evil people (ex. Hitler, Bin Laden) The hell which non-believers go to could be entirely different. Such as a black void of nothingness, that only God will remove you from to bring to heaven if you accept him as the true god. Many things are lost in translationg, and hell could very well be one of them.
Hell is what you make it. Hell is there to scare people into a religion of bondage and control. Hell ensures that people won't live their lives to the fullest.
armortron, I know that you are just taking this lightly. But this is really serious. If you are wrong you can lose your soul for eternity. Doesn't that concern you at all? Jesus taught more about hell than he did about heaven. Why did Jesus come and die such a horrible death? To save us. Save us from what? From the fires of hell he spoke so much of. You have a free will. You can deny Him or His word all you want. When you finally die, you will in eternity. If you are wrong you will be lost 4ever
very interesting video, yes I agree, natural selection would have strongly favored the religions with really terrible hells, because that scares people into believing, and wanting to make sure all their friends and family, and maybe even EVERYBODY believes it so they don't go there.
I believe religious enforcement comes not from a fear of others going to hell. That would be too unselfish of an individual.
Religious enforcement comes from the subconscious fear that one day, a person will see all others questioning their religion, causing them to, naturally, question it too, and when they catch themselves, the Fear of Hell, for themselves, not others, comes into play.
Hell is real. so what did he want to say? Hell is totally real! it's not concept its true and i think we can at least tell people to repent in their sins and do good.
It's amazing that the same means in which we reject Christianity (man made, rules, etc), represents the the method in how we negate the belief. "All you have to do is be kind, good hearted, etc." Where did this come from? Who chose these rules as the means to life after death. Well what if the Christian belief is true? I think it's better to be safe than sorry. Most only believe what they believe, and reject certain rules to justify their immoral behaviors anyway. Everything goes nowadays. SAD!
I reject all religion. Instead of focusing on what people did in the past or what our future might be, we need to focus on what is happening RIGHT NOW. For example, our economy is steadily inflating as a result of the massive debt our government is in to the Federal Reserve Bank. Because of our current system, we will never pay off this debt, and our economy will soon crash unless we do something soon. We need to reject the system entirely, and focus on a resource based economy, not a money one.
Yeah, let's all worry only about ourselves. Let's worry about some imaginary place that other people have told us we will go unless we accept their imaginary friend. Don't you worry yourselves with the real world now. It doesn't matter when you need to worry about an imaginary punishment, right?
Here's a challenge for you, Shane. Give me some evidence that anything you say about Hell even matters. The evidence I can give you that you are wrong is mind-blowing.
Good video. I get its intent completely, to explain why we have religious conflicts(a manmade concept). Hell is manmade as no loving god would conceive of such a creation. Religion is also manmade so why believe the bullshit attached to religion. I guess its hard to break away from Religion when it tugs at your deepest emotions. I understand why so many hand onto it so tightly.
Be a loving, kind, compassionate human and you will ascend to the spiritual realm with your fellow loving souls.
what if, you are in love with your husband, and you both die, you were a believer, he was atheist and you end up in heaven; he in hell. Without him, are you really in heaven :o?
andrewbb :--God did not create evil-- Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 in New International Version I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
What right have you, sir, Mr. clergyman, you, minister of the gospel to stand at the portals of the tomb, at the vestibule of eternity, and fill the future with horror and with fear? I do not believe this doctrine, neither do you. If you did, you could not sleep one moment. Any man who believes it, and has within his breast a decent, throbbing heart, will go insane. A man who believes that doctrine and does not go insane has the heart of a snake and the conscience of a hyena.
I just bought a dozen puppies - I own them, they BELONG to me. They're really cute, but most of them are less grateful than I think they should be, and some even fail to obey me. So I'm gonna put them in a metal garbage can, sprinkle them with gasoline, and burn them. Not all at once, just a little every day to see how long I can keep them squealing and squirming. I'm not God so it won't be for ever, but I'll do my best... Hey, I love 'em!
Hell exists very much in the after life if you have rejected God. It is a place of eternal torture. But there is also a heaven. Heaven and hell are both real.
Your whole life you've been told that hell is a place of eternal torture, but where in the Bible do you think you can find this? Is this really what Jesus said? Are you interpreting the words correctly? Do you have an understanding of the language Jesus spoke in? What would eternal hell tell you about the character of God? Rethink. Is this belief from God?
Yes I'm very sure that this is what God meant. All throughout Revelation it speaks of hell and eternal suffering. John 3:16 For God so loved the wolrd that he gave his only begotten Son. That whosoever beleives in Him shall not PERISH but have EVERLASTING LIFE.
In this verse it speaks of eternal life in heaven and perishing in hell for eternity. Is this enough proof? I will be happy to look up more verses!
Keep searching. Our understanding of the afterlife has been perverted by tradition. Read about Sheol, Gehenna, and Tartarus. These are the words Jesus used that have been translated with our modern word "hell" Like you I used to believe I had to warn peole about eternal torture. I trust that eventually you'll find that God's chastisement is corrective. He will redeem all in time. Praise God!
Well actually its called common sense! If you live in heaven for eternity why would you not die in hell for eternity? He loves us all the same even when you sin against Him. He counts all sin the same, as in, if i steal a piece of gum He would treat it as if i murdered someone. I would die for stealing that piece of gum. But that's why He came and died for our sins so that we could choose eternal life. Unfortunately there are those that will deny Him and will suffer for it.
Again you argue with me but have you read the Bible? Read Revelation it is about the most current thngs that are soon to come. Only 1 more prophecy lies before us then God comes back. This will be your last chance to give your life to Him. If you choose not to well...
What the church is REALLY saying, kids: "Dear Child, You are my offspring. Nothing will ever separate you from my love. I will always comfort you. Unless you don't believe me, in which case I will torture you for ever and ever in the torture chamber I made. You know I'll do it, too. I already tortured and mutilated and killed and abandoned my only REAL son. Trust me."
Jesus died to save our souls from eternal perishing. His Father couldn't look at him because of the sin Jesus had atken upon Himself. God does love us! It hurts Him deeply to see his children go to hell. He loves us enough to give us achoice to either live with Him in Paradise or choose to live the life He gave us and run away from Him. He is a God of mercy. He is giving you/others time to realize He is the only way to heaven!
How in the world would you know if you have read the Bible more than me? I'm finished arguing with you. I know what I have told you is the truth and it is real. It is not long until He returns and then you tell me if you beleive in God once the torture begins on Earth. Oh wait you won't be able to tell me because I'llbe in heaven!
it seems you havent read your own bible. Your so-called loving god also claims to have created the most horrible place in the universe. Then he placed us upon an earth with no proof of him, only a handful of decades to make our decision, and then an ETERNITY to pay for our best guess. Your god is fictional. However if he were real he would be the worst monster ever to be crapped out of the universe.
Hell was created because God didn't want people who didn't believe in Him or have a personal relatioship with Him to be in a wonderful place like Heaven that they dont deserve, like Satan who was thrown out of Heaven and thrown into Hell. a bottomless pit of fire. forever and ever , etc. etc. eternity.
And thats why I belive in religion, because God loves us SO much that he is willing to punish us in the most horrific ways forever and ever. Would you as a father or mother continue to punish your child forever and ever for one misdeed? I don't think so. I REALLY don't think so.
Hell exists and it's called America under George BUsh, lol. But seriously, there are some Christians that don't believe in Hell, or at least not an eternal Hell. I don't.
nightboomfer realize you are a filthy sinner against God, repent(completely turn from your sin) trust Jesus as the one who takes your punishment for those sins and live only for Him. Be saved. Dont wait. Dont doubt. Time is almost up!
That woman will see the reason her husband did not make it into heaven. He was Probably holding on to some secret sin.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Therell be a Judgement of both those who will get to heaven and those who dont because everything anyone has ever done is written in a book of records in heaven which will be reffered to in the Judgement so it can be fair. The wrong actions which the children of the kingdom of heaven did are covered by Jesus' righteousness.Theres no other name under which men are saved.
It's true. Just to be fair God has appointed selected angels and given them the ability to decipher and record every thought and also record every word and deed of every human being that has ever lived and is living also even the fallen angels. Only then can the judgement be fair:)
ETERNEL HELL TORMENT is a Boldfaced lie! Eccl9:5 For the living know that they shall die:but the dead know not anything,neither have they any more a reward;for the memory of them is forgotten. Mat10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:but rather fear himGod)which is able to destroy both SOUL and BODY in hell. Psa37:20 But the wicked shall perish,and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs:they shall consume;into smoke shall they consume away
Well that's a relief. So some get into heaven and others simply cease to exist? There's still a loss, though, as those not welcomed to heaven don't get the eternal reward, and is that not in itself punishment? If a woman goes to heaven but her husband ceases to exist, is that not a punishment for the woman as well? Does heaven not simply become hell if we are disconnected from those we love? Or does God force us not to love them anymore?
Ezekiel 18:32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves,and live ye.
2Peter 3:9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. They will be consumed as an act of God's mercy because they would feel out of place in the pure self-less atmosphere of heaven. God loves all people and wants to save all people.
you are entitled to your opinion, but I have say is this, when you are in Heaven, I hate to say this but you will not remember any of your loved ones who has been sent to Hell, God will wipe away from your memory of the bad things that have happened to COMPLETELY, so in reality it's not punishment to someone who lives in Heaven or least you will not feel the pain of not being able to see your loved one who is in Hell
STFU with ur high n allmighty take on theology when there is no authority on it! U talk shit about morality when u havent even proved there is or is not a god so STFU brainwashed monotonous drone punk.
atheists make me sick. do you not have anything better to do than try to lead people astray? fool. children, look at his words. listen to his voice. the end of every spoken sentence, is not a question, but a premeditated statement. the end of every typed phrase, is not a deduction, but a prompt. most of all, his concepts-are transparent. he says not "to inflict pain for pain's sake is evil", rather, he says, "hell is a lie because of this, and that, and those". LISTEN to him. a liar. and a fool.
mikese93 1 year ago
For the polytheists, it'd be "the Gods' rules." Anybody else bored enough to catch that?
NoNamesLeft0102 1 year ago
You stated many good reasons for the need to become a christian.
But of course it doesn't justify genocide, and you cannot force anyone to believe - we have free will. God wants believers, not slaves.
But why not flip it - why believe in heaven? Given a choice people LOVE to believe in a heaven. And that is for the very reason you stated about hell - people can justify any behavior. Particularly their own.
Hell is real my friend - but I cannot argue you away from it.
randomscience1 1 year ago
This video is based on a FALSE PREMISE. The One Creator made hell for his spiritual beings called DEMONS- - hell is a PRISON for spiritual lawbreakers- - fallen angels--demons. Unfortunately, hell is for HUMANS who live in rebellion, reject and hate the Creator. If you break the law you pay the price, do you not understand this logic? In this world, justice is imperfect and still, executed. In the REAL world, justice is perfectly executed- - no cutting corners.
whatisthequestion3 1 year ago
All the sweet talking people will not stop people from going to hell. Believing that it doesn't exist won't change anything. If u end up there, and hope u don't, take this poem with u and read it down there. See if it makes a different at all with the sweet talking. We are born in sin and no sinner that's not covered with Jesus blood can go to heaven. All the time u waste trying to figure out hell, you could be getting saved and be ready for heaven. Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation
rossdaboss1959 1 year ago
Why worry about going to Hell, when all u have to do is accept the one who died on the cross for u. What if hell is really true like the Bible says? Will u have control over going there when u leave here? if only people would take the time to get filled with the Holy Ghost like they did on the day of Pentecost, u will see better that the bible is for real. Hell is for real. Why take the chance when u don't have to? Do u believe that Jesus died for u? Do u love Him? Do u really care about Him?
rossdaboss1959 2 years ago
I agree with you rossdaboss1959. The problem these people have is that they don't believe. They would have to repent and aknowledge that they are sinners, which of course is the spirit of pride. They believe that hell is just a scare tactic, to get them into religion and take away their sinful lifestyle. They do not understand that we are only trying show them the true way to everlasting life that is only through Christ Jesus. Just pray rossdaboss, we have to love them enough to tell them.
bryanhewitt1964 2 years ago
Brian Hewitt, who was born n 1964. You lived in a sinful life style until you were 10 years old. Then a friend took you to church and you heard about the rapture and tribulation and hell fire and eternity which was a common topic back in the 70's. It scared the everliving shit out of you and you've been a believer ever since. Whether i'm right or wrong on this word of knowledge, the biggest question is, have you ever stopped to question your beliefs along the way since you got saved?
armortron 2 years ago
@rossdaboss1959 "Do u believe that Jesus died for u? Do u love Him? Do u really care about Him? "
Well if someone put a gun to my head and said "Do you really love me? cause if you dont I will kill you" then of course I would say yes
badpanda84 1 year ago
dude 1 question how do u know all this stuff?
runout111 2 years ago
Yes, I do believe in this one's logic, but is hell what the bible truly makes it out to be? It could be a number of things, and as it would seem, the true hell would only be for truly truly evil people (ex. Hitler, Bin Laden) The hell which non-believers go to could be entirely different. Such as a black void of nothingness, that only God will remove you from to bring to heaven if you accept him as the true god. Many things are lost in translationg, and hell could very well be one of them.
Thing07 2 years ago
Hell is what you make it. Hell is there to scare people into a religion of bondage and control. Hell ensures that people won't live their lives to the fullest.
armortron 2 years ago
amen
JohnPeter777 2 years ago
What if you're wrong?
bryanhewitt1964 2 years ago
I'm not, I'm right about everything.
armortron 2 years ago 3
armortron, I know that you are just taking this lightly. But this is really serious. If you are wrong you can lose your soul for eternity. Doesn't that concern you at all? Jesus taught more about hell than he did about heaven. Why did Jesus come and die such a horrible death? To save us. Save us from what? From the fires of hell he spoke so much of. You have a free will. You can deny Him or His word all you want. When you finally die, you will in eternity. If you are wrong you will be lost 4ever
bryanhewitt1964 2 years ago
@bryanhewitt1964 Actually Jesus didnt teach that much about hell? he taught alot more about love thy neighbour and not to judge other.
badpanda84 1 year ago
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mikese93 1 year ago
very interesting video, yes I agree, natural selection would have strongly favored the religions with really terrible hells, because that scares people into believing, and wanting to make sure all their friends and family, and maybe even EVERYBODY believes it so they don't go there.
Aphex217Twin 2 years ago
I believe religious enforcement comes not from a fear of others going to hell. That would be too unselfish of an individual.
Religious enforcement comes from the subconscious fear that one day, a person will see all others questioning their religion, causing them to, naturally, question it too, and when they catch themselves, the Fear of Hell, for themselves, not others, comes into play.
Wh3nYour3Strang3 2 years ago
Hell is not eternal. Research Justinian's influence on church doctrine.
ryanvh1 2 years ago
u know ur right speeddeccard ur a smart guy how do u know all this though?
runout111 2 years ago
Hell is real. so what did he want to say? Hell is totally real! it's not concept its true and i think we can at least tell people to repent in their sins and do good.
indigocarma 2 years ago 2
yo bro all this stuff u said made scence to me
runout111 2 years ago
It's amazing that the same means in which we reject Christianity (man made, rules, etc), represents the the method in how we negate the belief. "All you have to do is be kind, good hearted, etc." Where did this come from? Who chose these rules as the means to life after death. Well what if the Christian belief is true? I think it's better to be safe than sorry. Most only believe what they believe, and reject certain rules to justify their immoral behaviors anyway. Everything goes nowadays. SAD!
Anthonycuffiestar 2 years ago
I reject all religion. Instead of focusing on what people did in the past or what our future might be, we need to focus on what is happening RIGHT NOW. For example, our economy is steadily inflating as a result of the massive debt our government is in to the Federal Reserve Bank. Because of our current system, we will never pay off this debt, and our economy will soon crash unless we do something soon. We need to reject the system entirely, and focus on a resource based economy, not a money one.
myteethareshiny 2 years ago
your economy isnt gonna save yo ass in da flames
ShaneDicklickTV 2 years ago
Yeah, let's all worry only about ourselves. Let's worry about some imaginary place that other people have told us we will go unless we accept their imaginary friend. Don't you worry yourselves with the real world now. It doesn't matter when you need to worry about an imaginary punishment, right?
Here's a challenge for you, Shane. Give me some evidence that anything you say about Hell even matters. The evidence I can give you that you are wrong is mind-blowing.
myteethareshiny 2 years ago
id love to hear this so called evidence
unless it is a bunch of atheist bullshit
in that case me and my "imaginary friend" are gonna leave you alone
and btw - imaginary my fucking ass
ShaneDicklickTV 2 years ago
Good video. I get its intent completely, to explain why we have religious conflicts(a manmade concept). Hell is manmade as no loving god would conceive of such a creation. Religion is also manmade so why believe the bullshit attached to religion. I guess its hard to break away from Religion when it tugs at your deepest emotions. I understand why so many hand onto it so tightly.
Be a loving, kind, compassionate human and you will ascend to the spiritual realm with your fellow loving souls.
charronfamilyconnect 2 years ago
what if, you are in love with your husband, and you both die, you were a believer, he was atheist and you end up in heaven; he in hell. Without him, are you really in heaven :o?
coolbeens21 2 years ago
so whats your point?
Timcookie321 2 years ago
andrewbb :--God did not create evil-- Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Philos2006 2 years ago
this translation is juste bad
Isaiah 45:7 in New International Version I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
9111014 2 years ago
God did not create evil.
Cold is the absence of heat.
Evil is the absence of God.
Atheists still has a god
andrewbb 2 years ago
Thank you lord, for creating hell. You know, how I long to be tortured by you. And, thank you also for creating evil.
Philos2006 2 years ago
thats your choice!!
DATRUTHURTS 2 years ago
all i have to say is read the bible. its GODs word and everything in there is truth. John 3:16 read it.
xxx3744 2 years ago
What right have you, sir, Mr. clergyman, you, minister of the gospel to stand at the portals of the tomb, at the vestibule of eternity, and fill the future with horror and with fear? I do not believe this doctrine, neither do you. If you did, you could not sleep one moment. Any man who believes it, and has within his breast a decent, throbbing heart, will go insane. A man who believes that doctrine and does not go insane has the heart of a snake and the conscience of a hyena.
Col. Bob Ingersoll
methinxaweezil 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Hell exists very much in the after life if you have rejected God. It is a place of eternal torture. But there is also a heaven. Heaven and hell are both real.
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
Your whole life you've been told that hell is a place of eternal torture, but where in the Bible do you think you can find this? Is this really what Jesus said? Are you interpreting the words correctly? Do you have an understanding of the language Jesus spoke in? What would eternal hell tell you about the character of God? Rethink. Is this belief from God?
ryanvh1 3 years ago
Yes I'm very sure that this is what God meant. All throughout Revelation it speaks of hell and eternal suffering. John 3:16 For God so loved the wolrd that he gave his only begotten Son. That whosoever beleives in Him shall not PERISH but have EVERLASTING LIFE.
In this verse it speaks of eternal life in heaven and perishing in hell for eternity. Is this enough proof? I will be happy to look up more verses!
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
Keep searching. Our understanding of the afterlife has been perverted by tradition. Read about Sheol, Gehenna, and Tartarus. These are the words Jesus used that have been translated with our modern word "hell" Like you I used to believe I had to warn peole about eternal torture. I trust that eventually you'll find that God's chastisement is corrective. He will redeem all in time. Praise God!
ryanvh1 3 years ago
"In this verse it speaks of eternal life in heaven and perishing in hell for eternity"
No it doesn't.
It says "perish", not "perish in hell for eternity."
Where did you learn to read?
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Well actually its called common sense! If you live in heaven for eternity why would you not die in hell for eternity? He loves us all the same even when you sin against Him. He counts all sin the same, as in, if i steal a piece of gum He would treat it as if i murdered someone. I would die for stealing that piece of gum. But that's why He came and died for our sins so that we could choose eternal life. Unfortunately there are those that will deny Him and will suffer for it.
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
"If you live in heaven for eternity why would you not die in hell for eternity?"
Why not just read the words as written
and let them say whatever they say?
Xianity is absurd enough without replacing scripture with your imaginatio...
oops, I mean your common sense!
"if i steal a piece of gum He would treat it as if i murdered someone"
Well how stupid is that?
I mean, use your common sense!
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Again you argue with me but have you read the Bible? Read Revelation it is about the most current thngs that are soon to come. Only 1 more prophecy lies before us then God comes back. This will be your last chance to give your life to Him. If you choose not to well...
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago 2
Jesus died to save our souls from eternal perishing. His Father couldn't look at him because of the sin Jesus had atken upon Himself. God does love us! It hurts Him deeply to see his children go to hell. He loves us enough to give us achoice to either live with Him in Paradise or choose to live the life He gave us and run away from Him. He is a God of mercy. He is giving you/others time to realize He is the only way to heaven!
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
"It hurts Him deeply to see his children go to hell. "
Right.
That's why he made it, no doubt.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago 7
He does! He made hell when he kicked Lucifer out of heaven. Then sin entered the world. You argue with me but have you even read the Bible?
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
"You argue with me but have you even read the Bible?"
Yes, young lady, I've read it more than you have.
That's why I know it's baloney.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago 7
How in the world would you know if you have read the Bible more than me? I'm finished arguing with you. I know what I have told you is the truth and it is real. It is not long until He returns and then you tell me if you beleive in God once the torture begins on Earth. Oh wait you won't be able to tell me because I'llbe in heaven!
horsejumpa101 3 years ago
"How in the world would you know if you have read the Bible more than me?"
Good question.
Here's the answer:
after completing 4 years of Bible College
I was a pastor for 40 years,
during which time I studied the scriptures
almost every single day.
So I have probably spent more time studying the Bible
than you have been able to read.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
it seems you havent read your own bible. Your so-called loving god also claims to have created the most horrible place in the universe. Then he placed us upon an earth with no proof of him, only a handful of decades to make our decision, and then an ETERNITY to pay for our best guess. Your god is fictional. However if he were real he would be the worst monster ever to be crapped out of the universe.
cowdragon 3 years ago
WHY did he make hell?
JonathanClement140 2 years ago
God created hell when he threw satan out of heaven. He created hell for eternal punishment for those that reject Christ
horsejumpa101 2 years ago 2
What was the POINT of creating hell?! This is something Christians NEVER think about!
JonathanClement140 2 years ago
Hell was created because God didn't want people who didn't believe in Him or have a personal relatioship with Him to be in a wonderful place like Heaven that they dont deserve, like Satan who was thrown out of Heaven and thrown into Hell. a bottomless pit of fire. forever and ever , etc. etc. eternity.
READ THE BIBLE.
ff5loverferlife 2 years ago
Again, why does it have to last for eternity? Why can't God make it so they can come back at any time? What's the point?
It's a simple question.
JonathanClement140 2 years ago
WELL HOW BOUT U ASK HIM
225FALLOUTBOY 2 years ago
And thats why I belive in religion, because God loves us SO much that he is willing to punish us in the most horrific ways forever and ever. Would you as a father or mother continue to punish your child forever and ever for one misdeed? I don't think so. I REALLY don't think so.
FullMetalBuddha2 2 years ago
Hell exists and it's called America under George BUsh, lol. But seriously, there are some Christians that don't believe in Hell, or at least not an eternal Hell. I don't.
AndromedaMariaCarmen 3 years ago
um waaaa? this sounds cool on audio preview...
2drops0fwater 3 years ago
Sure Hell exists, is anyone actually there? No way.
TheIrrationalAtheist 3 years ago
So...why have it in the first place?
Also: Glad you're not for eternal torture :D
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
Good question. If you would like to take it to a pm, I would love that.
Let me first say, God is not for eternal torture, that's something man made up.
TheIrrationalAtheist 3 years ago
may I ask why you chose the irrational atheist for your name? just curious...
AndromedaMariaCarmen 3 years ago
It's a book by Vox Day, look it up.
TheIrrationalAtheist 3 years ago
ok, I will. sounds interesting
AndromedaMariaCarmen 3 years ago
nightboomfer realize you are a filthy sinner against God, repent(completely turn from your sin) trust Jesus as the one who takes your punishment for those sins and live only for Him. Be saved. Dont wait. Dont doubt. Time is almost up!
brian9monty 3 years ago
There is no time up. There are consequences, but God's love for us is eternal. Time doesn't run out - that's an evil lie.
ryanvh1 3 years ago
That woman will see the reason her husband did not make it into heaven. He was Probably holding on to some secret sin.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
brigig 3 years ago
So basically, Jeebus gives you a lobotomy so you stop caring about other people. God sure is all-loving isn't he?
Nightboomfer 3 years ago
Therell be a Judgement of both those who will get to heaven and those who dont because everything anyone has ever done is written in a book of records in heaven which will be reffered to in the Judgement so it can be fair. The wrong actions which the children of the kingdom of heaven did are covered by Jesus' righteousness.Theres no other name under which men are saved.
brigig 3 years ago
lol wut.
Nightboomfer 3 years ago
It's true. Just to be fair God has appointed selected angels and given them the ability to decipher and record every thought and also record every word and deed of every human being that has ever lived and is living also even the fallen angels. Only then can the judgement be fair:)
Proverbs 5:21
For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD, and he pondereth all his goings.
Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
brigig 3 years ago
Man, angels have some pretty boring jobs.
Nightboomfer 3 years ago
But they love it as long as they are doing what God wills. It is their higest Joy to be serving him. I wish i was like that.
brigig 3 years ago
In my opinion its a pretty "juicy" job:)
brigig 3 years ago
ETERNEL HELL TORMENT is a Boldfaced lie! Eccl9:5 For the living know that they shall die:but the dead know not anything,neither have they any more a reward;for the memory of them is forgotten. Mat10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:but rather fear himGod)which is able to destroy both SOUL and BODY in hell. Psa37:20 But the wicked shall perish,and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs:they shall consume;into smoke shall they consume away
brigig 3 years ago
Well that's a relief. So some get into heaven and others simply cease to exist? There's still a loss, though, as those not welcomed to heaven don't get the eternal reward, and is that not in itself punishment? If a woman goes to heaven but her husband ceases to exist, is that not a punishment for the woman as well? Does heaven not simply become hell if we are disconnected from those we love? Or does God force us not to love them anymore?
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
Ezekiel 18:32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves,and live ye.
2Peter 3:9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. They will be consumed as an act of God's mercy because they would feel out of place in the pure self-less atmosphere of heaven. God loves all people and wants to save all people.
brigig 3 years ago
you are entitled to your opinion, but I have say is this, when you are in Heaven, I hate to say this but you will not remember any of your loved ones who has been sent to Hell, God will wipe away from your memory of the bad things that have happened to COMPLETELY, so in reality it's not punishment to someone who lives in Heaven or least you will not feel the pain of not being able to see your loved one who is in Hell
GMmaster99 2 years ago
So must for not being tampered with, than.
JonathanClement140 2 years ago
Jesus himself gave the parable of the rich man and Lazarus "And in hell he lifted up his eyes, and cried out to Abraham, i see no annihilation
Matt 25:41-46
v.46And these shall go away into "everlasting punishment"
Mark 3:29 it says ETERNAL DAMNATION
2 Thess 1:8-9 this one says EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION, so you will be destroyed but its an ongoing thing, you're never annihilated
Rev 20:10-15 v.10 where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever
breakaway321 1 year ago
"impose your morality", I knew it was coming.
pennylaneproductions 3 years ago
Odd little phrase, isn't it?
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
It's a straw man, too.
pennylaneproductions 3 years ago
It's a straw man that some self-professing Christians are trying to change laws to match unsupported biblical beliefs? I'm a bit confused.
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
STFU with ur high n allmighty take on theology when there is no authority on it! U talk shit about morality when u havent even proved there is or is not a god so STFU brainwashed monotonous drone punk.
ReyineBrianated 3 years ago
This was actually more of a take on the psychology, and effects of, a belief in Hell. But thank you for your comment. :)
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
are you kidding this guys an moron!
CctTrevor 3 years ago
you have a really anoying voice. :/ im taking you to hell with me, haha oh wait.. WE'RE IN HEAVEN AND HELL!!!!
revolucionario36 3 years ago
Yeah, I really do. :\
SpeedDeccard 3 years ago
pray for those who have not seen the love of God yet
AICXCNIKAO 3 years ago
G R E A T
Philos2006 3 years ago
Bravo =) I felt you hit the mark on this. =)
scionfire 3 years ago
I couldn't have said it better myself.
K2Tanner 3 years ago
Pretty good.
LifeIsPietzsche 3 years ago