Great video!! this video teaches clearly the fact. I know Korean people doesn't have any evidence. they can't help but accept the fact after watching it. hey, Korean. Show me your evidence!
wait. if there are two islands(rocks) in Tekeshima/Dokdo. why can't 1 country have one rock instead of two. unless it is actually 1 island and i might be blind 0.o
@GloriousJapanForever Why are we fighting with each other about natural disasters...whether the natural disaster happens in Japan, Korea, or any other country on Earth, it is a bad thing.
If you look at one of the earliest maps of Dokdo drawn by Japanese, they have labeled Dokdo as a Korean territory. If you want to refute, then email me; I have the picture.
Well, besides the history, the "current" regulation says Takeshima belongs to Japan, right? If Korea has any evidence that Takeshima belongs to Korea, then they have to fight at the international court.
@CMindy0424 There are historical evidences that the Dokdo Island belongs to Korea. Such as JApanese mapmakers who didn't draw Dokdo in Korean maps, or labeled Dokdo as Korean Land. The San Francisco treaty states that all Korean land be given back to Korea, which includes Dokdo. Also, you can see Dokdo from Korea, but not from JApan, no matter how clear the weather. Japan should stop being thieves!
>The San Francisco treaty states that all Korean land be given back to Korea, which includes Dokdo.
Do not lie. The San Francisco Treaty omitted Dokdo from the list of islands Japan should renounce. The following is the exact text.
"Article2
(a) Japan recognizing the independence of Korea, renounces all right, title and claim to Korea, including the islands of Quelpart, Port Hamilton and Dagelet."
Very odd that Korea claims that the islets (Takeshima/Dokdo)in question was discovered as long ago as 1,500 years or more.
However no Korean has ever been able to offer a plausible explanation as to why not even a single old Koeran map depicting the accurate location, size and shape of the isltes had been found until recent years.
I mean, What had old Korean people been doing for all those years (1,000 or more) after the time they claim they discovered the islets?
The accuracy of a map can NOT prove that it is that country's territory. It is the matter of the "technical level" of that country. And the reason why I was "fuddy-duddying (according to you,)" about the color was because that source of "fuddy-duddying" was what the Japanese people had on their maps to indicate their territory, right?
Accuracy of the evidence always matter, doesn't it?
To my eyes, Usando can never look like Takeshima (Dokdo) of today.
Suppose Korean tech level mattered and the Koreans of the time failed to depict the shape of the island of Usando accurately. YET can you really believe someone who had the tech that allowed them to reach the island well off the coast of Korean peninsula, were NOT able to see the island Usando split IN HALF?
All the Korean maps here appreare to depict it as onepiece.
Wow, thank you for the personal insult. And to tell you a little truth, I am not an elementary school. Anyway a big wow on that comment.
I think you misunderstood the point of what I was try to say.... you might want to read it over again - well, if you want to!
I am talking about YOUR, JAPANESE maps, not Chosun's. Why are you tackling with all that technical levels or the strictions for the color usage of Chosun?
Ok first of all San Francisco does not mention anything about Dokdo. So that pretty much kills your credibility. Second according to the treaty Japan recognize Korea's independence and enounces all right, title and claim to Korea. Though it does not mention Dokdo specifically it implies it. Example the treaty does not mention Ulleungdo, but that island is unconditionally ours (and the fact Korea has over 3000 small islands so mentioning all of the island is pointless).
I hope that the viewers of this video or any other videos of the uploader for the matter of fact, for their own sake, not indulge in this propaganda and look to outside sources for the truth. The makers of these videos are delusional and insecure of their own culture or lack there-of. Please don't be a gullible bimbo and believe this crap fabricated by history altering imperialists.
According to Korean people there are a lot of evidences to prove that Takeshima belongs Korea. I do wonder why Korea refuses the International Court.
@00019972b Yes there are tons of documents dating back to 512 during the three kingdoms era that says that dokdo belongs to Korea. Even some document from Japan saying Dokdo is Korean. So why don't Korea go to the International Court? It is simple for Korea there is no dispute hence no need for a trial. There is also a problem that one of the judge is a Japanese which will lead to a clear bias for Japanese side.
but, the dispute here over the islets is what the Dokdo is, isn't it?
What if your "tons of documents dating back to 512" are referring is NOT Takeshima/Dokdo of today but mere Usando depicted in the old Korean maps seen here? beause it's Korean people who claim by these old Korean maps that the Usando is the ancient name of Dokdo.
1. One day the name of the islets Usando was changed into Dokdo somehow.
2. Changing the name can't change the position of the islets, so Dokdo stays very near Ulleungdo as Usando located near Ulleungdo as depicted on the maps drown by the very your ancestors.
Korean people need to know that Dokdo is Usando on the old Korean maps and that Takeshima is Takeshima on the old Japanese maps.
Lastly, I really want to introduce this web site : truthofdokdo com. And this is the comment of twins1225t below: 古地図の鬱陵島と独島位置ディスかけることは, 今上にあげた日本古地図に '独島'と '鬱陵島'色が同じなのにこれ朝鮮地を意味することではないか? と ディスかけるのとトックガッウンゴだ. これを日本側では 'その当時エドサラム ドルは鬱陵島まで自分の地だと分かった'と反論したのと似ている. 当時に幕 府では独島と鬱陵島近くへ行かないでねと警告下ったのにそんな意識が広が っていると主張したら本当に皮肉としか言いようがなかったりして I don't know if this makes sense to you because I used a translator. Hope it does :-)
But now Korea is more developed than Japan. There are no Japanese semiconductor devices I know of, just some piezoelectrical discrete devides and connectors. Korea manufactures sophisticated devices like the S5PV310 and others.
The K11 is the world's first and only OICW in service. The XK2 is the most expensive tank in the world. Japan cannot build such things. Japan cannot make great things like the S5PV310 either. The F/A-50 is also much better than the Mitsubishi F2 which is only expensive.And Japan imports its e-government from Korea.
@BEER0121 Yes there are. Samsung was one of the first companies to develop 3D technology, and they recently developed a touch-screen computer that has a clear screen- which means you can see through the screen AND see the screen at the same time.
@Alice9512 hi,are you a elementary student? in 18~19ce,korean didn't have color.colored painting was only permitted for king's portrait or famous family painter. to import the pigment from china was controlled strictly...then i know why you fuddy-duddy the color of map. firstly, korean didn't have the knowledge of triangulation method.then korean didn't have their map till 1910, amalgamated age.check it!
そのとおり。An American gentleman in our office from NY says
"There're so many JP restaurants in NY. But most of them aren't run by JP!! Koreans run those JP restaurants!! :( " He looked uncomfortable when he said "Korean".
It seems Koreans love to be similar to JP as possible
and their anti-JP is a method to hide their adoration to JP.
Koreans try to take many foreign things including Takeshima as if they belong to Korea.
It seems they have so little things to be proud of.
in 2000,there were 1198 false witnesses in the court of the law in korea.but in japan there were only 5 false witnesses in the court of the law.this means that koreans lie 671 times more often than japanese,considering the population.so think why korean history textbooks are inconsistent with japan's.
Hahahah. Bullshit!! You can't give any refutation to the truth, the Dokdo is even closer to Korean territory, it's right next to Ulleungdo. Plus, your government already admitted that Dokdo doesn't belong to Japan on many of diplomatic documents after the World War II. Time to stop giving a shit.
@bark1022 You are dumb. There is no diplomatic document you said. After the World War2. it is clarified that Takeshima is Japanese territory in San-Francisco Treaty.
@Spimon13 LOL this type of comments are so funny. Dude, before you comment it, Think about it. Will Japan want a trial if Korea inists Tokyo is Korean territory? NO. and the judge of the international court is Japanese -.- and MOREOVER, Takeshima basically means an island with lots of bamboos right? Well there's absolutely NO bamboo at all in Dokdo. Takeshima used to indicate Ullengdo in old times because Ullengdo used to and still have lots of them.
1. You need to go to the International Court of Justice, because international society already recognized that Takeshima belonged to Japan in the San Francisco Peace Treaty, while no people on this planet have any doubt that Tokyo is Japanese territory.
2. Takeshima used to be called "Matsushima (Pine island)" and Ulleungod was called "Takeshima (bamboo island)" not because pine or bamboo were on those islands, but because "pine, bamboo, and plum" (松竹梅) are a traditional way of counting things in in Japan. So Matushima meant "the first island," and Takeshima meant "the second island," because you reached Liancourt Rocks first and the Ulleungdo island second when you sailed to Ulleungdo.
@GloriousJapanForever Why the heck are you not approving all of my comments against you and beatDPJ. Is it because you cannot refute my opinion? or is it to make it seems like i have nothing to say after your comment to other users? You're not playing a fair game.
Okay, it is SO ridiculous how Japanese people still insist that Dokdo belongs to Japan. Dokdo has been Korean territory since A.D. 512 years. Also, D'Anville, a French royal geographer had displayed Dokdo on ROYAUME DE CORÉE in 1737.
When there doesn't exist even a single old map which depicted Dokdo, how can you claim it has belonged to Korea since 512? Your Samguk Sagi mentions nothing about Dokdo.
In A.D. 512, Usanguk (Ullengdo) became a korean territory, and a lot of Japanese says Dokdo is different from Usanguk. HOWEVER, if you look in the Mangiyoram and Yeogigi, it says that Dokdo is a territory of Usanguk which means that DOKDO BELONGED TO USANGUK = Korean territory.
Samgum Sagi says merely that Udanguk, which is another name of the Ulleungdo island was taken over by Silla. It mentions nothing about the uninhabited island which lies 93km east-southeast of Ulleungdo. Also, as you can see in these old Korean maps, "Usando" has nothing to do with Dokdo, but is surely identical to totally another island, Jukdo, which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. How can you claim that Dokdo has been Korean territory since 612 now?
@GloriousJapanForever Okay, in A.D. 512, the General of Shinla(Korea) conquers Ullengdo which is recorded as Usanguk in Samguk Sagi. And a lot of korean historical documents say that Dokdo was called Usando in old times. In Sejong Silok jiriji, it says "there are two islands, Ullengdo and Usando on the east sea of Uljin(province of Korea), you can see Usando in sunny days." and you can actually see Dokdo 20km above the land level of Ullengdo in sunny days.
Which historical document says such a thing that Usando was identical to Dokdo. Just quote the exact sentence here. Sejong Sillok says that "both Usando and Ulleungdo are visible" from Uljin Province. You are distorting what original Chinese sentence is saying.
Korean people always fabricate history. Jesus is Korean? U.S was Korean territory? China and Japan were Korean territory? Korean established Egyptian civilization? Korean established Mesopotamian, India, And Chinese civilization? Give me a break. This fabrication what Korean called KOREAN PRIDE. No more fabricate history and lie. Korean = liar
According to (Frus) Foreign Relations 1951,Volume VI 1203 page
"In the document cited in footnote 2 above, Mr.Rusk continued:"As regards the insland of Dokdo...this normally uninhabited rock formation was according to our information
never treated as part of Korea and,since about 1905,has been under the jurisdiction never of the Oki Islands Branche Office of Shimane Prefecture of Japan.
The island does not appear ever before to have been claimed by Korea."
JAPANESE OFFICIAL HiSTORY TEXTBOOK published in 1928 by JAPANESE GOVERNMENT used for elementary, and middle school, clearly indicating Korean Territory.
Koreans should be challenge at the International court for Takeshima Genocide killing 44 unarmed Japanese fishermen. It is more improtant for Japan to spread the words of Takeshima Genocide throughout the world, including on You Tube, so that the world will recognize the fascist and barbaric acts on Japan, and recognize Takeshima as territory of Japan.
Well, as I said I am not an expert. But I can easily see that your focus is too much on mapping itself. So what are the evidence that Dokdo belongs to Japan?
@GloriousJapanForever I have just read comments posted here. Considering what you commented here, there are not rants, beleive me. Your arguments were astonishingly ignorant and even foolish. You bring this sensitive issue and talking about what? It seems like you were ranting!!!
@pjbnz You should first check out the website of foreign ministry of Japan by searching with "The Issue of Takeshima"; they explain about this issue in English on the site.
This video proves that Usando island, which the korean govt claims is the old term for the disputed Liancourt Rocks, is in fact Jukdo.
Liancourt Rocks / Takeshima is Japanese territory. We have treated it so since medieval times, and have numerous maps to prove it. Kindly pack up and leave from Takeshima. Korea's unlawful occupation of the island is not tolerated.
It's funny to see so many comments here which are neither reasonable nor historically accurate. Let's meet at ICJ shall we?
All those description say that Usando and Ulleungdo are visible from the Korean peninsula. I will make a video to prove this point. The problem with Korean so-called "researchers" on the Takeshima/Dokdo issue is that they are making use of the inability of Korean people to read Chinese language. They always divert the original meanings of Chinese (original) text of those historical records.
At 7:25 of this video, you can see the very precise map publishes by the Korean Empire in 1899. It clearly says Usando is totally irrelevant to Dokdo but identical to Jukdo, which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. If Usando is irrelevant to Dokdo, all your evidences that Dokdo had belonged to Korea prior to 1905 turns out to be totally false and fake.
@Utub77able There is no description written, "独島 (Dokto)" in the old document of South Korea. Because the name said, "独島" is a name that "Syngman Rhee" named after WW2.
Next, this is called in South Korea though it is 干山島 = 竹嶼(죽서) Takeshima. This is Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) mentioned in Japan and another island.
If the position and shape are confirmed in Korean old map, it is sure to understand.
@Utub77able Moreover, the description named 石島(Sokto) is and there is a theory named 独島, too. However, 石島 is a 観音島. It is Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) where this is mentioned in Japan and another island.
In a word, there is no one that Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) was described in the old document of South Korea.
Just watch this video at 7:25. You can see a very precise modern map made by Korean Empire in 1899. Where is Dokdo depicted? "Usan" is depicted as identical to the present "Jukdo" which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. How come?
@leews24 FYI, Korean Emperor was King when Korea was a subject state to China and subject King couldn't name himself emperor because Emperor of China never allowed any vassals to have their own emperors.
But Japan fought China for the independence of Korea and won.
And after then Korean King renamed himself as Emperor until Japanese rule.
Don't be running around from the fair and square battle for Takeshima!
The Japanese will NEVER forget the Koreans KILLED many Japanese fishermen and took Japanese and the fish boats as hostage when Korea invaded Takeshima and occupies it since with the arm force.
@leews24 KOREA asked Japan for the annexation by Japan. Japan never had a war against Korea.
Korea was almost broke and it couldn't keep its independence
Japan paid back all Korean debts, modernized Korea, educated all class of Koreans in 5000 schools Japan built, built dam, plants, hospitals, railways, waterworks, sewage, etc. Korean population increased TWICE and the longevity got longer.
Japan gave all its assets in Korea to Koreans. Japan shouldn't have helped Korea the ungrateful nation.
Japan released Koreans from the long term status as a slave of China, abolished old customs and social class system, published Hangul textbooks, built so many schools, increased the population, raised the literacy rate and modernized Korea. i'm showing these facts with concrete evidence in the following video.
We were friends with China, proved by Queen Myung-Seong right after the treaty was signed
abolished old customs, and replaced them with your old customs
social class system was King Ko-Jong's one first acts after he mad Chosun into Korean Empire
no, I can't find a single Korean publishment besides a few IndependencePaper and those "Fuck Off You Japs"books, and some "I love Jap Emperor like JB" books
Correction. There was no equal relation ship in Chinese Tributary System contrary to what you want to believe. You could only be either a master or a slave, and Korea was the latter. Korea a vassla of China. Korea had to send beautiful Korean girls as a present to Chinese Emperors regularly. Korean Kings had to welcome Chinese envoys kneeling down onto the ground. This is the fact you must face and accept.
oh good, CUZ IM IN MOOD TO RAPE YOUR PUSSY FACE OFF
The fact of sending girls and that master and slave relationship ended around middle 1800s. Since Japs were all like "Were so great, fuck off china and korea, im not ur babay anymore", we wanted be freinds. Also, they were losing power, so they needed somethin. Thats why we helped each other, and yeah, HELP CAME, only you japs attacked China too (MANIFEST DESTINY)
Unless you are blind, you can know the simple fact that Korean language was never banned during the annexation period and all Korean newspapers were published in Korean language until the end of annexation period.
Even if deliverers are dead, you can see the exact Korean papers published during the annexation period in the following video, and they were printed using Hangul.
You'd better read theese articles of Korean papers if you can still read Korean language.
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
나라 전체가 거짓말 학습장이다. 일거수일투족이 언론에 보도되는 대통령 등 핵심 지도층은 영향력이 큰 거짓말 교사이다. 대통령 후보는 당선되기 위해서 실현 가능성 없는 공약을 내걸고 국회의원도 상대 후보를 낙마시키기 위해 거짓말을 날조한다. 권력자들은 천문학적인 뇌물을 받고도 단 1원도 받지 않았다고 선서까지 한다. 거짓말 잘 하는 국민을 만드는 것이 국가경쟁력을 높이는 길이라고 착각하고 있는 듯하다.
These Korean papers are saying Koreans lie 4000 times as often as Japanese.
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
초등학교에서도 거짓말 훈련을 시킨다. 초등학교 3학년인 K는 일기장이 두 개다. 하나는 선생님에게 매일 보여주고 검사받기 위한 목적으로 쓰는 일기장이다. 다른 하나는 자신과 대화하는 진실이 담긴 프라이버시로서 보관하는 일기장이다. K가 일기를 두 개 작성하게 된 이유는 선생님이 일기 주제를 미리 내준 뒤 일기장을 검사하고 잘 된 내용은 게시판에 공개하기 때문이다. 누구에게나 공개되는 일기장에 자신만의 진솔한 이야기를 쓸 수 있겠는가.
수사기관과 법원, 의회의 청문 절차 등에서 거짓말을 막는 것은 판단 절차의 생명에 해당한다고 할 만큼 중요하다. 그런데도 제도적 장치가 미흡해 거짓 진술과 허위 증언이 난무하고 진실이 왜곡된다. 소송에서 당사자가 선서하지 않는다면 거짓말을 마음대로 할 수 있다. 선서를 한 뒤 허위 진술을 했을 때 받는 처벌은 고작 과태료 200만원 정도이다. 선서한 증인이 위증을 하는 일이 비일비재한데도 실제 처벌까지 받는 경우는 드물다. 근거 없는 허위 사실을 퍼뜨려 상대에게 큰 피해를 보인 정치가에게는 명예훼손죄로 고작 벌금 몇 백만원이 선고된다. 우리 국민에게는 진실을 알릴 의무가 공동체를 위한 국민의 의무라는 인식도 부족하다. 사건의 중요한 목격자들이 남의 일에 끼어들고 싶지 않다며 증언을 꺼린다. 다른 사람들의 억울한 처지는 아랑곳하지 않는다. 반면 청탁을 받거나 이해관계가 있는 사람을 돕기 위한 거짓말에는 적극 나선다.
How can we expect you to be honest only with these historical issues when you are lying 4000 times as often as us Japanese?
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
진실 발견의 도구로 거짓말탐지기가 사용된다. 그러나 이는 거짓말에 대한 두려움, 초조, 양심의 가책 때문에 나타나는 생리적 현상을 측정함으로써 판단하는 것이기 때문에 양심이 마비된 인격장애자에게는 소용없다. 나라 전체가 거짓말탐지기도 통하지 않는 양심마비자들을 배양해 내는 토양이 되고 있다. 삶에서 거짓이 쌓이게 되면 모든 일에 나쁜 영향을 주듯이, 우리 사회에 전반적으로 거짓이 난무하게 되면 사회 전체의 건전한 정신이 무너져 내린다. 일류국가로 도약하기 위해서는 국민정신이 더 무너지기 전에 특단의 조치가 필요하다.
@GloriousJapanForever First off Donga Ilbo was under court several times after that, not only for this bullshit, and many other things(but now theyre good)
I dont know how you got this, but clearly you didnt see the apology and fine issues in 2004(or was it 5?)
Oh, you don't like Donga Ilbo? Ok then how about Chosun Ilbo or SISA Fucus?
SISA Focus 2003 년 6 월 30 일 신성한 법정엔 거짓말 천지
위증사범 작년 603명 적발, 2년 전보다 70% 증가 우리나라의 위증범행 발생률은 일본의 671배, 무고범행 발생률은 일본의 4천 151배, 사기범행 발생률은 일본의 17배이다. 검찰의 한 관계자는 이러한 위증사범 증가 현실에 대해 "국제투명성 기구가 발표한 투명성 지수에서 우리나라는 91개국 중 42위로 OECD나라 중에는 꼴찌 수준이다"며 한탄한다. 이러한 우리나라의 높은 위증 범죄발생률에 대해 우리는 정에 약한 문화여서 거짓에 대한 죄책감이 덜하기 때문이며 거짓말로 일관하는 정치인들의 정치역사 아래 영향을 받았기 때문이라는 분석도 나오고 있다.
Dude if youre gonna fight me off, you need better proof.
this one from Sisa focus looks fake, cuz first off it says our innocent crime rate was 4151 times more than Japs, later on saying our crime rate is 3.3 if Japs crime rate is 1
朝鮮は宣伝すれば本当になると信じています。
子供達は本当に日本が奪ったと思い、殺したいほど憎んでいます。
日本国内でも同じ教育です。日本名は何度も変える事が出来、犯罪を犯しても強制送還は無く、また日本名を変えるだけです。税金・就職も苦労はありません。
移民で成功した国はありません。目的は侵略が明確です。
中国の文化を奪ってしまった事実がある為、日本人も反撃せざるをえない。
殆どが捏造ばかりの国家にうんざり。TVも見なくなりました。
漁師を人質にして犯罪者を開放させたり、44人死傷させたり。まさにテロ国家です。
日本に借金を早く返しなさい。大きなことはそれから言え。
TK931112 3 weeks ago 4
Great video!! this video teaches clearly the fact. I know Korean people doesn't have any evidence. they can't help but accept the fact after watching it. hey, Korean. Show me your evidence!
hajitest 1 month ago 3
Shall we go to ICJ ?
Kawanya37 1 month ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever さんのその他の動画
wait. if there are two islands(rocks) in Tekeshima/Dokdo. why can't 1 country have one rock instead of two. unless it is actually 1 island and i might be blind 0.o
itiu11 1 month ago
FAKE
sooncool123 1 month ago
The San Francisco Treaty made all Japanese Annexation land claims to Korea invalid, which includes the Korean island of Dokdo.
BigbangKorea21 1 month ago in playlist 作品リスト
@GloriousJapanForever Why are we fighting with each other about natural disasters...whether the natural disaster happens in Japan, Korea, or any other country on Earth, it is a bad thing.
BigbangKorea21 1 month ago in playlist 作品リスト
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If you look at one of the earliest maps of Dokdo drawn by Japanese, they have labeled Dokdo as a Korean territory. If you want to refute, then email me; I have the picture.
jujuu8686 1 month ago in playlist WJFの名作動画 Best Videos by WJF Project
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Well, besides the history, the "current" regulation says Takeshima belongs to Japan, right? If Korea has any evidence that Takeshima belongs to Korea, then they have to fight at the international court.
TheTruthonlyist 1 month ago in playlist WJFの名作動画 Best Videos by WJF Project
Dokdo belongs to Korea not Japan.
xxwzaebd 1 month ago
@GloriousJapanForever My country is Australia.. not sure that a tiny weeny tsunami will even be noticed here LOL
WC2002Truth 1 month ago
Dirty radioactive Jap monkeys need a few more tsunamis lol.
WC2002Truth 1 month ago in playlist WJFの名作動画 Best Videos by WJF Project
@WC2002Truth Please, don't say things like that. Japanese, Korean- deaths are bad.
BigbangKorea21 1 month ago in playlist 作品リスト
What a great movie it is!!
There are many historical evidences that are proving the island is Takeshima which belongs to Japan. :-D
CMindy0424 3 months ago 14
@CMindy0424 There are historical evidences that the Dokdo Island belongs to Korea. Such as JApanese mapmakers who didn't draw Dokdo in Korean maps, or labeled Dokdo as Korean Land. The San Francisco treaty states that all Korean land be given back to Korea, which includes Dokdo. Also, you can see Dokdo from Korea, but not from JApan, no matter how clear the weather. Japan should stop being thieves!
BigbangKorea21 1 month ago
@BigbangKorea21
>The San Francisco treaty states that all Korean land be given back to Korea, which includes Dokdo.
Do not lie. The San Francisco Treaty omitted Dokdo from the list of islands Japan should renounce. The following is the exact text.
"Article2
(a) Japan recognizing the independence of Korea, renounces all right, title and claim to Korea, including the islands of Quelpart, Port Hamilton and Dagelet."
GloriousJapanForever 1 month ago 4
@BigbangKorea21
If you want to know something about the San Francisco Peace Treaty, just watch the following video of mine.
watch?v=zeoH8-bVhPw
GloriousJapanForever 1 month ago
@BigbangKorea21 Good luck!! LOL
CMindy0424 1 month ago
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Of course you know, the islets in quesiton are tiny islets which in fact can fit in as little as 1km square area.
How can you depict such a small object incorrectly?
It's like you are making a sketch of lions in front of crocodiles.
With those, we Japanese can't belive the claims from Korea that the islets was discovered way long long, as long as 1,500 years ago by Koreans.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
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Very odd that Korea claims that the islets (Takeshima/Dokdo)in question was discovered as long ago as 1,500 years or more.
However no Korean has ever been able to offer a plausible explanation as to why not even a single old Koeran map depicting the accurate location, size and shape of the isltes had been found until recent years.
I mean, What had old Korean people been doing for all those years (1,000 or more) after the time they claim they discovered the islets?
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu
The accuracy of a map can NOT prove that it is that country's territory. It is the matter of the "technical level" of that country. And the reason why I was "fuddy-duddying (according to you,)" about the color was because that source of "fuddy-duddying" was what the Japanese people had on their maps to indicate their territory, right?
Maybe you are the one who should check. Thanx :-)
Alice9512 3 months ago
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JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@Alice9512
Accuracy of the evidence always matter, doesn't it?
To my eyes, Usando can never look like Takeshima (Dokdo) of today.
Suppose Korean tech level mattered and the Koreans of the time failed to depict the shape of the island of Usando accurately. YET can you really believe someone who had the tech that allowed them to reach the island well off the coast of Korean peninsula, were NOT able to see the island Usando split IN HALF?
All the Korean maps here appreare to depict it as onepiece.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@Alice9512
>It is the matter of the "technical level"
??? Since when did any "techinical level" need to depict an island which in fact can fit in as small as 1km square area?
I can do it with my naked eyes without any "technilac level" things.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu
Oh, and speaking of that technical level, the triangulation things,
don't you think that can actually answer to the question that this video is questioning to the Korean maps?
Alice9512 3 months ago
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu
Wow, thank you for the personal insult. And to tell you a little truth, I am not an elementary school. Anyway a big wow on that comment.
I think you misunderstood the point of what I was try to say.... you might want to read it over again - well, if you want to!
I am talking about YOUR, JAPANESE maps, not Chosun's. Why are you tackling with all that technical levels or the strictions for the color usage of Chosun?
Alice9512 3 months ago
@lolokooza
I would say that those maps can actually be the evidence for Korea. And the reason why is in my comment, I'd also say. Thnx :)
Alice9512 3 months ago
韓国は早くハーグに来いよ。
まぁ、どうせ根拠もなにもないから負けるの分かって逃げてるんだろうけど。
韓国の記者も日本の動きにわが政府が応じないことが最善の戦略って言ってるし
1rockworldsu 3 months ago
Takeshima
No dokdo
jikeyoungn 4 months ago 6
Hey, koreans
Show us korea's old map to prove ur lawfulness.
The old map Takeshima/dokdo had been korea's isle.
Why is it so HARD for you to show decisive old map? hahaha...
wagnerian01 4 months ago
Ok first of all San Francisco does not mention anything about Dokdo. So that pretty much kills your credibility. Second according to the treaty Japan recognize Korea's independence and enounces all right, title and claim to Korea. Though it does not mention Dokdo specifically it implies it. Example the treaty does not mention Ulleungdo, but that island is unconditionally ours (and the fact Korea has over 3000 small islands so mentioning all of the island is pointless).
hyperlion 4 months ago
@hyperlion I think you should better to read following document first.
1, Foreign relations of the United States, 1951. Asia and the Pacific (in two parts)
2, 大韓地誌 (published in 1899 by 大韓帝国)
V/r
techlabjpn 4 months ago
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The Korean War has not ended yet.
Since it is under cease-fire now, the territory has not been decided.
South Korea is not a right holder who asserts a territory.
Before asserting a territory, isn't making war finish the first priority of South Korea, they?
techlabjpn 4 months ago
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I hope that the viewers of this video or any other videos of the uploader for the matter of fact, for their own sake, not indulge in this propaganda and look to outside sources for the truth. The makers of these videos are delusional and insecure of their own culture or lack there-of. Please don't be a gullible bimbo and believe this crap fabricated by history altering imperialists.
dilkxy 4 months ago
This video makes a lot of sense to me while a lot of claims by Korea do not.
Is not there any common sense at all in there? Why do unarmed Japanese citizens have to get killed for getting close to what they own?
Very impressed by your historical knowledge too.
Thanks.
p38haj 4 months ago
According to Korean people there are a lot of evidences to prove that Takeshima belongs Korea. I do wonder why Korea refuses the International Court.
00019972b 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever さんのその他の動画 7
@00019972b Yes there are tons of documents dating back to 512 during the three kingdoms era that says that dokdo belongs to Korea. Even some document from Japan saying Dokdo is Korean. So why don't Korea go to the International Court? It is simple for Korea there is no dispute hence no need for a trial. There is also a problem that one of the judge is a Japanese which will lead to a clear bias for Japanese side.
hyperlion 4 months ago
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@hyperlion
but, the dispute here over the islets is what the Dokdo is, isn't it?
What if your "tons of documents dating back to 512" are referring is NOT Takeshima/Dokdo of today but mere Usando depicted in the old Korean maps seen here? beause it's Korean people who claim by these old Korean maps that the Usando is the ancient name of Dokdo.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
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@hyperlion
So the conclusion should be like this:
1. One day the name of the islets Usando was changed into Dokdo somehow.
2. Changing the name can't change the position of the islets, so Dokdo stays very near Ulleungdo as Usando located near Ulleungdo as depicted on the maps drown by the very your ancestors.
Korean people need to know that Dokdo is Usando on the old Korean maps and that Takeshima is Takeshima on the old Japanese maps.
JapanAsCool 3 months ago
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Please read my comment from the very beginning - read it from the very bottom(?) of my comments! :-)
Alice9512 4 months ago
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Alice9512 4 months ago
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Alice9512 4 months ago
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Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
I am a Korean, but I am not an anti-Japan. I am not saying
that Japan is stupid or something. I do acknowledge that
Japan is one of the well-developed country in the world. Well,
actually, I like Japanese people. The kindness of your people
when I was in Japan for about 2 weeks, they were so nice. But I
believe that you will agree that this is a seperate issue from
that.
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
But now Korea is more developed than Japan. There are no Japanese semiconductor devices I know of, just some piezoelectrical discrete devides and connectors. Korea manufactures sophisticated devices like the S5PV310 and others.
xxwzaebd 1 month ago
@xxwzaebd
Is there any cutting-edge or breakthrough products in Korea?
I think Korean products are always hand-me-down idea from Japan or America at all.
watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0
BEER0121 1 month ago 3
Yes,many.
xxwzaebd 1 month ago
@xxwzaebd
OK. Please tell me the product name.
By the way, did you watch " watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0 " yet?
BEER0121 1 month ago
World's almost all LCDs and all DRAMs as well as most handphones. The XK2 which is the world's best tank, the KDX-3, the K11 OICW, and many others.
xxwzaebd 1 month ago
The K11 is the world's first and only OICW in service. The XK2 is the most expensive tank in the world. Japan cannot build such things. Japan cannot make great things like the S5PV310 either. The F/A-50 is also much better than the Mitsubishi F2 which is only expensive.And Japan imports its e-government from Korea.
xxwzaebd 1 month ago
@BEER0121 Yes there are. Samsung was one of the first companies to develop 3D technology, and they recently developed a touch-screen computer that has a clear screen- which means you can see through the screen AND see the screen at the same time.
BigbangKorea21 1 month ago in playlist 作品リスト
There are plenty of evidences except for the maps in Korea. I
know that there ARE the evidences that Japan as well.
But this video... does not work. This video CANNOT PROVE
that dokdo- or takeshima- is a Japanese territory.
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
Am I a colorblind? Well, technically, no. I am so sorry that
the Japanese maps are accurate and detailed enough to have
each colors for every. single. part. of. their. territory!
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
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00019972b 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever さんのその他の動画
The color issue is also shown up on the map of 2:27. In that
map, Oki island is colored in light yellow. BUT dokdo and
Ullengdo is NOT colored at all; maybe because it is NOT the
part of Japan? Just geussing. I do know that Japanese are
really sophisticated and detailed. Thus, it is hard for me to
think that the map makers have missed that little coloring
by mistake. It was THE OFFICIAL MAP of the Japan, wasn't it?
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
And I'd like to thank you for actually including the map that
shows on 2:16! If I am right, that is the map that the
Japanese people had been using as an official map for a while,
isn't it? Do you see that there is the color difference in
dokdo's- or takeshima's- and the oki's? Unless am I a
colorblind, I can see that dokdo's color is much more likely to
the color of Ullengdo. (And Ullengdo is clearly enough, a
Korean territory.)
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
Let's take another turn. Looking at the map that is shown
on 2:04 or 2:07, maybe you are indicating that dokdo- or
takeshima- is painted in red: the same color with Japan; but
then what about Ullengdo in that map? It is also painted in
red. Wierd, isn't it? But I do not think you are daring to say
that it is the Japanese territory as well. So the conclusion
from this : that map is not that reliable.
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
@Alice9512 hi,are you a elementary student? in 18~19ce,korean didn't have color.colored painting was only permitted for king's portrait or famous family painter. to import the pigment from china was controlled strictly...then i know why you fuddy-duddy the color of map. firstly, korean didn't have the knowledge of triangulation method.then korean didn't have their map till 1910, amalgamated age.check it!
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 4 months ago
Only thing that we can derive from those maps
are that "OH LOOK! THERE IS A ISLAND NOW CALLED DOKDO- OR
TAKESHIMA- ON THE ANCIENT MAPS OF JAPAN! WOW! HOW
SOPHISTICATED THEY ARE!"
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
Whether dokdo- or takeshima- is on the map or not is the matter of HOW ACCURATE THE MAP IS, not the matter of the TERRITORY ISSUE.
The first seven maps DO NOT show that dokdo-
or takeshima - is Japanese territory. They do have that island
on it, but there are no specific evidence for "IT IS JAPANESE
TERRITORY."
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
@Alice9512
But then how are you going to prove that Takeshima was Korean territory, if the korean's didn't even recognize the island?
lolokooza 3 months ago
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I recommend you watching the video from truthofdokdo com.
Also, your claim that dokdo- or takeshima- is a Japanese
territory because it is on your map, why don't you say that
Ulleungdo is also a Japanese territory? It is also on your maps,
isn't it?
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
Speaking of the maps,
Alice9512 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
GloriousJapanForeverさんの動画は論理的且つ冷静で、BGMも人を落ち着かせるようなセンスのあるものなので、とても好きです。
幅広く拡散させて頂きます☆
kotakotacom 4 months ago 7
いい動画ですね!!
まぁ南朝鮮(韓国)なんて嘘ばかり、しかも日本の文化をパクって歴史を捏造するしかできない国ですから、竹島を朝鮮領なんて思ってる人は相当頭が弱いんでしょう。
南朝鮮の国技 パクる、捏造、強姦、嘘 コレは常識。
tachibana1998 4 months ago 7
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i loved japan before...
now? pff
they are doing sth like this
how can i like them?
JK0Beau 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
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You guys Japan... history is not a game which you can change.
Hanari89 4 months ago
@Hanari89 That's my line.How can you say that after watching this video proving Korean claims are a lie?
sujikoomusubi 4 months ago 2
@ahodesu0317
そのとおり。An American gentleman in our office from NY says
"There're so many JP restaurants in NY. But most of them aren't run by JP!! Koreans run those JP restaurants!! :( " He looked uncomfortable when he said "Korean".
It seems Koreans love to be similar to JP as possible
and their anti-JP is a method to hide their adoration to JP.
Koreans try to take many foreign things including Takeshima as if they belong to Korea.
It seems they have so little things to be proud of.
SkylarkUtopian 4 months ago 15
@SkylarkUtopian they love jap culture
JK0Beau 4 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
in 2000,there were 1198 false witnesses in the court of the law in korea.but in japan there were only 5 false witnesses in the court of the law.this means that koreans lie 671 times more often than japanese,considering the population.so think why korean history textbooks are inconsistent with japan's.
Korva96 4 months ago 5
Korean are now stealing ZEN from Japan!!
They have no originary world famous culture.
Dont steal our culture,!
Lier Korean!!
icareforyouforever 4 months ago 13
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japan is real fake nation
/watch?v=wZ1Z_VaWfAA
Wkwmdsk95 4 months ago
Wikileaks: US ambassador says, Koreans "behaving irrationally" on Takesima.
search the next sentence on web. There is the truth;
" Wikileaks Viewing cable 06TOKYO2154, THE AMBASSADOR AND VFM YACHI DISCUSS LIANCOURT "
benton777 4 months ago 7
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Hahahah. Bullshit!! You can't give any refutation to the truth, the Dokdo is even closer to Korean territory, it's right next to Ulleungdo. Plus, your government already admitted that Dokdo doesn't belong to Japan on many of diplomatic documents after the World War II. Time to stop giving a shit.
bark1022 5 months ago
@bark1022
Dokdo lies 90 km south-eastsouth of Ulleungdo, not "next" to the island.
GloriousJapanForever 5 months ago 32
@bark1022 You are dumb. There is no diplomatic document you said. After the World War2. it is clarified that Takeshima is Japanese territory in San-Francisco Treaty.
jyosih1 4 months ago 3
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韓国古地図には独島がある. そして過去日本が製作した韓半島地図を見れば明確に独島が韓国の領土だと表示した. そして韓半島の古地図と過去日本が製作した韓半島指導をお互いに比べて見ればお互いの模様が一致する. そしてあなたが主張することは全部嘘というのが分かる. 何故ならば過去日本が製作した韓半島地図を見れば鬱陵島は 竹島と表示したし独島は 松島と表示した. そしてその地図を比べると韓国の古地図と一致する. したがって韓国の古地図は鬱陵島の 竹島ではない独島という事実が明白だ. そして私はあなたの作った動画が嘘というのを証明する動画を作っている. それを見て韓国の古地図には独島がないとして見なさい. その動画が完成になればあなたのそらぞらしい嘘の動画はにせ物というのが分かる.
rhrnfu12 5 months ago
@rhrnfu12
韓国のどの古地図に独島が描かれているんですか? 具体的に地図名を言って下さい。
GloriousJapanForever 5 months ago 103
@GloriousJapanForever 私が知っているものは、八道総図です。独島博物館にもあるようです。独島博物館のものは韓国が偽装したものです。この本物は日本にもあります。時代によっていろんなものがあるようです。本物では、独島はウルルン島の西側です。向かって左です。竹島の位置は、ウルルン島の東側です。向かって右です。韓国はの古地図による主張は完全な嘘だと証明されています。韓国人が根拠にしている古地図を科捜研にでも化学分析してもらうと面白いんじゃないでしょうか。ハーグの裁判所で化学分析です。
jyosih1 4 months ago 14
@rhrnfu12 韓国の古地図が八道総図をさすならば、韓国の八道総図は偽造されている。まず本物か証明できまか。八道総図の本物は日本にもれば韓国以外の他国にもある。そこでは于山島の鬱陵島の西側。そもそも古地図では竹島は韓国とは関係のないものです。 偽物を本物と言いふらすのは韓国のお家芸ですか、、。呆れた
jyosih1 4 months ago 16
@Spimon13 LOL this type of comments are so funny. Dude, before you comment it, Think about it. Will Japan want a trial if Korea inists Tokyo is Korean territory? NO. and the judge of the international court is Japanese -.- and MOREOVER, Takeshima basically means an island with lots of bamboos right? Well there's absolutely NO bamboo at all in Dokdo. Takeshima used to indicate Ullengdo in old times because Ullengdo used to and still have lots of them.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
1. You need to go to the International Court of Justice, because international society already recognized that Takeshima belonged to Japan in the San Francisco Peace Treaty, while no people on this planet have any doubt that Tokyo is Japanese territory.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 5
@GloriousJapanForever and that's when the U.N. army acknowledged that Dokdo belongs to Korea.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
A mere "Amy" has no right to deny what was already determined by the International treaty.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 7
@yorkleez07
2. Takeshima used to be called "Matsushima (Pine island)" and Ulleungod was called "Takeshima (bamboo island)" not because pine or bamboo were on those islands, but because "pine, bamboo, and plum" (松竹梅) are a traditional way of counting things in in Japan. So Matushima meant "the first island," and Takeshima meant "the second island," because you reached Liancourt Rocks first and the Ulleungdo island second when you sailed to Ulleungdo.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever Why the heck are you not approving all of my comments against you and beatDPJ. Is it because you cannot refute my opinion? or is it to make it seems like i have nothing to say after your comment to other users? You're not playing a fair game.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
Comment approval is on here, because I don't want to waste my time by replying to useless comments like yours repeatedly.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 29
@GloriousJapanForever
Well, perhaps u don't have anything to say :D yeah right who knows if someone ANONIMITY is not saying the truth on the Internet?
Alice9512 3 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
@GloriousJapanForever
woops my mistake someone anonymous :D
Alice9512 3 months ago in playlist GloriousJapanForever님의 동영상 더보기
Okay, it is SO ridiculous how Japanese people still insist that Dokdo belongs to Japan. Dokdo has been Korean territory since A.D. 512 years. Also, D'Anville, a French royal geographer had displayed Dokdo on ROYAUME DE CORÉE in 1737.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
When there doesn't exist even a single old map which depicted Dokdo, how can you claim it has belonged to Korea since 512? Your Samguk Sagi mentions nothing about Dokdo.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
You had better see the following site "A French geologist D’Anville’s “Map of Joseon(Royaume de Coree)
NEVER records Lianocourt Rocks(Takeshima/Dokdo) as a Korean territory."
ohtasan 6 months ago
In A.D. 512, Usanguk (Ullengdo) became a korean territory, and a lot of Japanese says Dokdo is different from Usanguk. HOWEVER, if you look in the Mangiyoram and Yeogigi, it says that Dokdo is a territory of Usanguk which means that DOKDO BELONGED TO USANGUK = Korean territory.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
Samgum Sagi says merely that Udanguk, which is another name of the Ulleungdo island was taken over by Silla. It mentions nothing about the uninhabited island which lies 93km east-southeast of Ulleungdo. Also, as you can see in these old Korean maps, "Usando" has nothing to do with Dokdo, but is surely identical to totally another island, Jukdo, which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. How can you claim that Dokdo has been Korean territory since 612 now?
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 4
@GloriousJapanForever Okay, in A.D. 512, the General of Shinla(Korea) conquers Ullengdo which is recorded as Usanguk in Samguk Sagi. And a lot of korean historical documents say that Dokdo was called Usando in old times. In Sejong Silok jiriji, it says "there are two islands, Ullengdo and Usando on the east sea of Uljin(province of Korea), you can see Usando in sunny days." and you can actually see Dokdo 20km above the land level of Ullengdo in sunny days.
yorkleez07 6 months ago
@yorkleez07
Which historical document says such a thing that Usando was identical to Dokdo. Just quote the exact sentence here. Sejong Sillok says that "both Usando and Ulleungdo are visible" from Uljin Province. You are distorting what original Chinese sentence is saying.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 5
South korea goverment tells a lie to south korean people by the history education.
qoooooooooo 6 months ago 5
Very informative and educational video. Thanks for making.
Daviysoh 6 months ago 6
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0531j1 6 months ago
I love this movie from Japanese objective point of view not Korean subjective sharmful point of view.I stand for your opinion totally.
Korea should retreat immediately I think.
gagagaga275 6 months ago 7
I really appriciate this movie. truth nothing but truth which I was looking for.
this is it. it is beyond description.truth will be observed at last.thanks!
hebrews11jp 6 months ago 5
nice beautiful splended delighted. more than words.
Nashufmg 6 months ago 2
According to (Frus) Foreign Relations 1951,Volume VI 1203 page
"In the document cited in footnote 2 above, Mr.Rusk continued:"As regards the insland of Dokdo...this normally uninhabited rock formation was according to our information
never treated as part of Korea and,since about 1905,has been under the jurisdiction never of the Oki Islands Branche Office of Shimane Prefecture of Japan.
The island does not appear ever before to have been claimed by Korea."
ouraikou 6 months ago 4
watch?v=SY9ypmeZRd0&feature=related
JAPANESE OFFICIAL HiSTORY TEXTBOOK published in 1928 by JAPANESE GOVERNMENT used for elementary, and middle school, clearly indicating Korean Territory.
0:20
BangSShin 6 months ago
@BangSShin
In 1928, whole Korea was Japanese territory.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 46
@GloriousJapanForever
XD dats the truth, to b more precise many of countries in east Asia was
but wats that gotta do with dis.?
going to my other point
it is debatable topic if these korean maps are accurate
at that time, with Korean technology, it would probably was impossible for
them to make accurate map. Therefore, korean using maps as evidence
can b doubted. However, as many other European map confirmed n even few documents
from Japanese authority had confirmed, Dokdo was clearly korea
subakjun21 4 months ago
Koreans should be challenge at the International court for Takeshima Genocide killing 44 unarmed Japanese fishermen. It is more improtant for Japan to spread the words of Takeshima Genocide throughout the world, including on You Tube, so that the world will recognize the fascist and barbaric acts on Japan, and recognize Takeshima as territory of Japan.
milfreak 6 months ago 5
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"International court"..
this is what koreans don't want to think about.
asdf21121 6 months ago 9
Those old Japanese maps prove that Takeshima belongs to Japan, however there are no old Korean map which depicted Takeshima.
Korea should press this dispute in the international court of Justice before they unlawfully occupy the island.
Na0ta0sha0 6 months ago 11
I am not an expert in this. However, I am sure there are perfect explanations against the contents of this video clip.
Gosh, you were advanced!!!. Yes, I am saying that this only proves that Japanese were far advanced in mapping.
Anyway, what are those evidence that Dokdo belongs to Japan?
pjbnz 6 months ago
@pjbnz
Please give us the perfect explanations. So many Koreans have visited here, but have never refuted the content of this video effectively.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 3
Well, as I said I am not an expert. But I can easily see that your focus is too much on mapping itself. So what are the evidence that Dokdo belongs to Japan?
pjbnz 6 months ago
@pjbnz
I will give you the evidence after you give us "the perfect explanation."
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever Why this 'comment pending approval' here? It is quite insulting, dont you think so?
pjbnz 6 months ago
@pjbnz
I am preventing them from ranting like "Jap monkeys" here. Must I allow them to do so?
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever I have just read comments posted here. Considering what you commented here, there are not rants, beleive me. Your arguments were astonishingly ignorant and even foolish. You bring this sensitive issue and talking about what? It seems like you were ranting!!!
pjbnz 6 months ago
@pjbnz
As you know, comment approval is on here. This is why you can't find any rants by them.
GloriousJapanForever 6 months ago 2
@pjbnz You should first check out the website of foreign ministry of Japan by searching with "The Issue of Takeshima"; they explain about this issue in English on the site.
kker123 6 months ago
This video proves that Usando island, which the korean govt claims is the old term for the disputed Liancourt Rocks, is in fact Jukdo.
Liancourt Rocks / Takeshima is Japanese territory. We have treated it so since medieval times, and have numerous maps to prove it. Kindly pack up and leave from Takeshima. Korea's unlawful occupation of the island is not tolerated.
It's funny to see so many comments here which are neither reasonable nor historically accurate. Let's meet at ICJ shall we?
sijour 6 months ago 9
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seeing is believing. there is no room for argument.
koki2600 6 months ago 3
My questions are like belows.
Quote.1 There is no historical fact that Korea had ever exercised any "effective control" over the islets prior to 1905.
Answers1.
If you only see the maps as like aobve video, it's possible to think like that.
But as you already mentioned about 世宗莊憲大王實錄 there are more
historical records which show the fact that Dok-do is belong to Korea.
高麗史- 1451, 鬱陵島事蹟- 1694, 西溪雜錄 ect.,
Utub77able 7 months ago
@Utub77able
All those description say that Usando and Ulleungdo are visible from the Korean peninsula. I will make a video to prove this point. The problem with Korean so-called "researchers" on the Takeshima/Dokdo issue is that they are making use of the inability of Korean people to read Chinese language. They always divert the original meanings of Chinese (original) text of those historical records.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago 17
@Utub77able
At 7:25 of this video, you can see the very precise map publishes by the Korean Empire in 1899. It clearly says Usando is totally irrelevant to Dokdo but identical to Jukdo, which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. If Usando is irrelevant to Dokdo, all your evidences that Dokdo had belonged to Korea prior to 1905 turns out to be totally false and fake.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago 16
@Utub77able There is no description written, "独島 (Dokto)" in the old document of South Korea. Because the name said, "独島" is a name that "Syngman Rhee" named after WW2.
Next, this is called in South Korea though it is 干山島 = 竹嶼(죽서) Takeshima. This is Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) mentioned in Japan and another island.
If the position and shape are confirmed in Korean old map, it is sure to understand.
SAKUYA077 6 months ago
@Utub77able Moreover, the description named 石島(Sokto) is and there is a theory named 独島, too. However, 石島 is a 観音島. It is Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) where this is mentioned in Japan and another island.
In a word, there is no one that Takeshima (Liancourt Rocks) was described in the old document of South Korea.
SAKUYA077 6 months ago
Let's go to court, and this problem will be over soon!
Needles to say Takeshima is one of Japanese island.
Don't kill any animals and waste Japanese flags
for the problem. That's all.
fooming1982 7 months ago
there is this guy named bundangbear who proclaims that dokdo is korean.
i told him to come check this video, lets see his future opinion.
jin54363 7 months ago
TAKESHIMA IS BELONGS TO JAPAN
TAKESHIMA FOR JAPAN
maxsingo 7 months ago 235
Because this rock island werent on korean map they should give them back under japan autority.
New generation of japanese are so child minded and think they live in a carebear land where all have to be kind with all.
i am sad for true Japanese patriot.
Your ancestors who built their nation, make choice of civilization and die for their country must be turning in their grave.
MixMaxcoco 7 months ago
Takeshima is Japanese territory that is illegally occupied by Koreans...
nekogorogorogorogoro 7 months ago 18
@leews24
Just watch this video at 7:25. You can see a very precise modern map made by Korean Empire in 1899. Where is Dokdo depicted? "Usan" is depicted as identical to the present "Jukdo" which lies 2km east of Ulleungdo. How come?
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@leews24 FYI, Korean Emperor was King when Korea was a subject state to China and subject King couldn't name himself emperor because Emperor of China never allowed any vassals to have their own emperors.
But Japan fought China for the independence of Korea and won.
And after then Korean King renamed himself as Emperor until Japanese rule.
beatDPJ 7 months ago
South Korea reminds me of FYROM so I'm with you
Krazymann234 7 months ago
Korea! Just come out to the international court !
Don't be running around from the fair and square battle for Takeshima!
The Japanese will NEVER forget the Koreans KILLED many Japanese fishermen and took Japanese and the fish boats as hostage when Korea invaded Takeshima and occupies it since with the arm force.
beatDPJ 7 months ago 210
@beatDPJ wtf, we take over a few ppl, u took over an entire nation, fuck off
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24 KOREA asked Japan for the annexation by Japan. Japan never had a war against Korea.
Korea was almost broke and it couldn't keep its independence
Japan paid back all Korean debts, modernized Korea, educated all class of Koreans in 5000 schools Japan built, built dam, plants, hospitals, railways, waterworks, sewage, etc. Korean population increased TWICE and the longevity got longer.
Japan gave all its assets in Korea to Koreans. Japan shouldn't have helped Korea the ungrateful nation.
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leews24 7 months ago
@beatDPJ no....
Korea was not broke back in 1905, and we did have some economical issues due to the several treaties japs forced on Koreans
We couldnt keep our independence, b/c Taft and the Jap gov dude talked about US eatin Philipine and Jap eatin Korea
Japs did not pay back all debts, we were full of debts evben after independence
Japs di not modernize Korea, but enslaved and killed off, injured one third of the population
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
Japan released Koreans from the long term status as a slave of China, abolished old customs and social class system, published Hangul textbooks, built so many schools, increased the population, raised the literacy rate and modernized Korea. i'm showing these facts with concrete evidence in the following video.
watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever Lets take a look at that:
We were friends with China, proved by Queen Myung-Seong right after the treaty was signed
abolished old customs, and replaced them with your old customs
social class system was King Ko-Jong's one first acts after he mad Chosun into Korean Empire
no, I can't find a single Korean publishment besides a few IndependencePaper and those "Fuck Off You Japs"books, and some "I love Jap Emperor like JB" books
built so many schools to get rid of our trad.
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
Correction. There was no equal relation ship in Chinese Tributary System contrary to what you want to believe. You could only be either a master or a slave, and Korea was the latter. Korea a vassla of China. Korea had to send beautiful Korean girls as a present to Chinese Emperors regularly. Korean Kings had to welcome Chinese envoys kneeling down onto the ground. This is the fact you must face and accept.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago 4
@GloriousJapanForever So you wanna play, you motherfucker, eh?
oh good, CUZ IM IN MOOD TO RAPE YOUR PUSSY FACE OFF
The fact of sending girls and that master and slave relationship ended around middle 1800s. Since Japs were all like "Were so great, fuck off china and korea, im not ur babay anymore", we wanted be freinds. Also, they were losing power, so they needed somethin. Thats why we helped each other, and yeah, HELP CAME, only you japs attacked China too (MANIFEST DESTINY)
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
Unless you are blind, you can know the simple fact that Korean language was never banned during the annexation period and all Korean newspapers were published in Korean language until the end of annexation period.
watch?v=pGymJw7ifD4
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever first off most of the video has nothing to do with Japs mostly, only one or two are,
and they dont even have dates, Solid. Reaaaally?
And yeah. Korean newspapers? Deliverers DIED
btw youre hilarious:)ㅗㅓ
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
Even if deliverers are dead, you can see the exact Korean papers published during the annexation period in the following video, and they were printed using Hangul.
watch?v=pGymJw7ifD4
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever
nvm
you notice this bullshit is from 2003, right?
and more: some of his other works dont make sense either
now Im goin to reply to your bullshit tommorrow, cuz I'm going to sleep.
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
I have a similar article of Chosun Ilbon in Febrary 2010. Shall I show you it?
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@leews24
You'd better read theese articles of Korean papers if you can still read Korean language.
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
나라 전체가 거짓말 학습장이다. 일거수일투족이 언론에 보도되는 대통령 등 핵심 지도층은 영향력이 큰 거짓말 교사이다. 대통령 후보는 당선되기 위해서 실현 가능성 없는 공약을 내걸고 국회의원도 상대 후보를 낙마시키기 위해 거짓말을 날조한다. 권력자들은 천문학적인 뇌물을 받고도 단 1원도 받지 않았다고 선서까지 한다. 거짓말 잘 하는 국민을 만드는 것이 국가경쟁력을 높이는 길이라고 착각하고 있는 듯하다.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@leews24
These Korean papers are saying Koreans lie 4000 times as often as Japanese.
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
초등학교에서도 거짓말 훈련을 시킨다. 초등학교 3학년인 K는 일기장이 두 개다. 하나는 선생님에게 매일 보여주고 검사받기 위한 목적으로 쓰는 일기장이다. 다른 하나는 자신과 대화하는 진실이 담긴 프라이버시로서 보관하는 일기장이다. K가 일기를 두 개 작성하게 된 이유는 선생님이 일기 주제를 미리 내준 뒤 일기장을 검사하고 잘 된 내용은 게시판에 공개하기 때문이다. 누구에게나 공개되는 일기장에 자신만의 진솔한 이야기를 쓸 수 있겠는가.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@leews24
수사기관과 법원, 의회의 청문 절차 등에서 거짓말을 막는 것은 판단 절차의 생명에 해당한다고 할 만큼 중요하다. 그런데도 제도적 장치가 미흡해 거짓 진술과 허위 증언이 난무하고 진실이 왜곡된다. 소송에서 당사자가 선서하지 않는다면 거짓말을 마음대로 할 수 있다. 선서를 한 뒤 허위 진술을 했을 때 받는 처벌은 고작 과태료 200만원 정도이다. 선서한 증인이 위증을 하는 일이 비일비재한데도 실제 처벌까지 받는 경우는 드물다. 근거 없는 허위 사실을 퍼뜨려 상대에게 큰 피해를 보인 정치가에게는 명예훼손죄로 고작 벌금 몇 백만원이 선고된다. 우리 국민에게는 진실을 알릴 의무가 공동체를 위한 국민의 의무라는 인식도 부족하다. 사건의 중요한 목격자들이 남의 일에 끼어들고 싶지 않다며 증언을 꺼린다. 다른 사람들의 억울한 처지는 아랑곳하지 않는다. 반면 청탁을 받거나 이해관계가 있는 사람을 돕기 위한 거짓말에는 적극 나선다.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@leews24
How can we expect you to be honest only with these historical issues when you are lying 4000 times as often as us Japanese?
동아일보 2003 년 12 월 28 일
진실 발견의 도구로 거짓말탐지기가 사용된다. 그러나 이는 거짓말에 대한 두려움, 초조, 양심의 가책 때문에 나타나는 생리적 현상을 측정함으로써 판단하는 것이기 때문에 양심이 마비된 인격장애자에게는 소용없다. 나라 전체가 거짓말탐지기도 통하지 않는 양심마비자들을 배양해 내는 토양이 되고 있다. 삶에서 거짓이 쌓이게 되면 모든 일에 나쁜 영향을 주듯이, 우리 사회에 전반적으로 거짓이 난무하게 되면 사회 전체의 건전한 정신이 무너져 내린다. 일류국가로 도약하기 위해서는 국민정신이 더 무너지기 전에 특단의 조치가 필요하다.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever First off Donga Ilbo was under court several times after that, not only for this bullshit, and many other things(but now theyre good)
I dont know how you got this, but clearly you didnt see the apology and fine issues in 2004(or was it 5?)
btw. Theres not a word about japs, what the hell
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
Oh, you don't like Donga Ilbo? Ok then how about Chosun Ilbo or SISA Fucus?
SISA Focus 2003 년 6 월 30 일 신성한 법정엔 거짓말 천지
위증사범 작년 603명 적발, 2년 전보다 70% 증가 우리나라의 위증범행 발생률은 일본의 671배, 무고범행 발생률은 일본의 4천 151배, 사기범행 발생률은 일본의 17배이다. 검찰의 한 관계자는 이러한 위증사범 증가 현실에 대해 "국제투명성 기구가 발표한 투명성 지수에서 우리나라는 91개국 중 42위로 OECD나라 중에는 꼴찌 수준이다"며 한탄한다. 이러한 우리나라의 높은 위증 범죄발생률에 대해 우리는 정에 약한 문화여서 거짓에 대한 죄책감이 덜하기 때문이며 거짓말로 일관하는 정치인들의 정치역사 아래 영향을 받았기 때문이라는 분석도 나오고 있다.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever
Dude if youre gonna fight me off, you need better proof.
this one from Sisa focus looks fake, cuz first off it says our innocent crime rate was 4151 times more than Japs, later on saying our crime rate is 3.3 if Japs crime rate is 1
and for some reason, 42 of 91 is almost last
Seriously?
leews24 7 months ago
@leews24
I put the link to the article of Sisa focus in the "show more" of this video.
GloriousJapanForever 7 months ago
@GloriousJapanForever
which link is it
which leads to the the conclusion that we dont know WHEN it was published. WHO too.
leews24 7 months ago